1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break down 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: and give our initial reaction to the Ravens first round 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: selection of Georgia safety Malachi Starks, the newest Raven and really. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Excited about this pick. I love it for a. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Number of reasons that we're going to dive into, Garrett. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: But first of all, I gotta take my victory lap, 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and I gotta say, Garrett, it's not a victory lap. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: This is going to be a victory marathon, Okay, Because 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Malachi Starks was my mock draft pick, and I just 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: want to turn back the dial here and go back 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: in history. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Garrett. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Not only was he my final pick, he was my 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: original pick because on February thirteenth. 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: Garrett, we had the receipts. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: I got the receipts February thirteenth. 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: I said, I'm planning my flag on Malachi Starks as 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: my guy. And this year I didn't get in my 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: own head. I didn't minker with the pick. Stuck to 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: my guns. Malachi Starks was consistent. You tried to. 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Throw shade the whole way through. Tell me I didn't know. 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: I was. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I tried. You were casting a lot of doubt. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I stuck with it. Malachi starts the pick feels good, Garret, 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you credit. You did keann On Starks 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: early in the process, and and look, I I liked 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: Malachi Starks as well. I just couldn't take the same guy. 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: So that's why I went different here we go. I 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: would have I liked him too. I just you claimed 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: your first. I was like, all right, I don't want 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: to take the same guy. That's why you played your flag, 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: you planned your flag, you claimed him, you called DIBs, 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: so I just let you have him. But but in 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: all honesty, I think that this is, like, it's a 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: really good pick for this team, and and the like 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: the reason you you were not by any means on 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: an island. On the Malachi Starks connection to the Ravens. 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: There was a lot of people. We put together a 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: compilation of mock drafts today, and he was by far 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: the favorite in those mocks. So a lot of people 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 3: felt like he could end up in Ballultimate, which. 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Actually had us sort of doubting whether he was going 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: to be the pick up because when everybody else on 46 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the outside, it's like, oh, it's gonna be Malachi Starks. 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: You're like, I know, Eric DaCosta likes to play games. 48 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: He likes to, you know, manipulate the board. Like does 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: he want everybody thinking that they're gonna take stars and 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna take somebody else? 51 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that did. 52 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: Like that was the that was almost like a red 53 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: flag today that I was like, everyone's saying Starks. It 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: can't be him, right right, it just seems too obvious 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: and uh. And Eric even said afterwards when he met 56 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: with me, he said, like I made him a little nervous, 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: and it was weird to see so many mock drafts 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: tying the Ravens to him. But at the end of 59 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: the day, he makes it to the Ravens and they 60 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: get the best safety in the draft. They get somebody 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: who instantly makes their defense better, Like instantly their defense 62 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: is better because of what he brings and the way 63 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: that allows them to free up the rest of the 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: players of the secondary. It's him and the impact that 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: he has. 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Just big picture of view and the reason why I 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: love Malachi starts from the beginning so much as he 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: checks every box, versatility, toughness, four to two straight starts, 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: three year starter, was a starter from day one at 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Georgia on a national Championships on a nation big program, 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: National Championship team, smart communicator, playmaker, right six career interceptions 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: and you watch some of those picks, It's not like 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: these are pedestrian interceptions, like ball skills, right tackles, well, 74 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: like every off the field, the intangibles off the field, 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: his story growing up, and the adversity faced, the kind 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: of athlete he is just and we'll go into each 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: one of these, but you go check check, check, check check. 78 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: And that's why Eric DaCosta said after making the selection, 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: this guy, it's he's wired to be a raven. 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought that was really interesting and and Eric 81 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: also made the point at the combine that that Malki 82 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: had one of the best combine interviews that they'd ever seen. 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: And they he left the room and everyone looks around 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: with their grading scale and they and they gave him perfect. 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Score straight sevens Hi. 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that sounds weird. You think it's like 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: seven out of ten. No, seven is the top end 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: score for this grading scale. And so he got a 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: perfect score and. 90 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Said that basically they they were putting up the plays, 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: the Georgia's defensive plays, and before they would hit play, 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: he knew what the play was, where everybody was supposed 93 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: to be and they hadn't even shown him anything. 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly like I had a similar feeling based 95 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: on his press conference. If you remember when we talked 96 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: at the combine and the you know, kind of the 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: immediate aftermath of the combine. He was somebody that I 98 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: came away with incredibly impressed, Like he stepped to the podium, 99 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: big crowd around him, really poised, didn't seem like it 100 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: just seemed really smart, seemed confident. And I came away 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: from that being like, man, this guy just feels like 102 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: from a makeup, from a mentality standpoint, the player who 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: would you would want to have in your locker room, 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: Like if you're if a coach is sitting there and 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: they're sitting around the table saying like, who are the 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: types of guys that we want? It's you feel like 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: they would describe exactly what I saw from that fifteen 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: minute press conference and what they saw as well, and 109 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: the time that they got with him. 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Well, and that was honestly the reason that I thought 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: he might not get to twenty seven. Was that the 112 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: buzz around draft circles, in media draft circles, was that 113 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of NFL coaches love this guy like he. 114 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Is a coach's dream. Yeah. 115 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean John Harball and Eric Tkasta said he's like 116 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: another coach, yeah, on the field. And to hear that 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: said about a player who has not even played in 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: an NFL game, yeah, right. 119 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Like he's a coach on the field. Usually hear about 120 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: that about a ten years. We're talking about Kyle van 121 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: Noy or something like that. A ten year exactly. 122 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: And you know, for a rookie, yeah, to be that 123 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: smart and have that much knowledge about the game, and 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: so like, you know, for so many coaches around the 125 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: league to just really love this guy. I felt like 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: somebody's going to convince their GM or whatever or the 127 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: head coach has you know a lot of sway and 128 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: making this pick and they're going to take them, and 129 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: just somehow you just kind of fell down the board. Well, 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: I think it what always happens, by the way, It 131 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: just it always happens. 132 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, similar to Kyle Hamilton was one 133 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: of the best players in that draft. And he fell 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: down the board. And I think a lot of it 135 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: is positional value. The safety is not valued the same 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: way that pass rusher and cornerback is on the defensive 137 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: side of the ball and not even to mention the 138 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: offensive side. So you have really good safeties that often 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 3: end up going later than they should. And Malachi Starks, 140 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: I think it's just the latest example. 141 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of pass rushers went in the first round. 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: A lot of defensive linemen went in the first round 143 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: of this year's draft, and it was a strong D 144 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: line class, and there are a lot of pass rushers too, 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: And so as the board fell, even some of the players, 146 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, both the top guards went, you know, some 147 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: of the wide receivers that we weren't positive we're going 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: to be ahead of twenty seven went, you know, And 149 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: so the board fell. 150 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: The Ravens way, I was like, we were watching it. 151 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 3: We both were saying, like, this is good, this is going. 152 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Well yep, and so all right, so I want to 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: get a little bit back into the boxes that Malachi 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Starks checks. And we talked about kind of the intangibles, 155 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: how smart he is, the communication, the leadership, right, you 156 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: become your day one starter on George's defense, National winning 157 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: championship winning defense. Yeah, you know you're a leader, right, 158 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: But I also want to talk about just the fit 159 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: here and the versatility that he has, and because I 160 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: think that's so important and a major reason why he's 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens pick is not only is he versatile, but 162 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: now it enables Kyle Hamilton to remain versatile. And John 163 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Harwall said, really what they envision is opponents have no 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: idea where these guys are going to. 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: Be, Like they could be anywhere. 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: And that is really something that a lot of defensive 167 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: coordinators want these days, is that positionless football and to 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: be able to do that and keep an offense and 169 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback constantly guessing Where's Where's Hamilton gonna be? 170 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Where's you know? 171 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: And now Malachi Starks once he makes a couple of plays, 172 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: where Stark's gonna be? I don't want to, you know, 173 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: you gotta know? And they could be anywhere, And so 174 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Malachi starts. According to Pro Football Focus, paid four hundred 175 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: snaps at deep deep safety last year, two hundred and 176 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: seventy one in the slot, two hundred and fifteen in 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the box. He also can play dime linebacker, John Harball 178 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: said he can play anywhere, and the nice compment is 179 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: it shades a little bit more towards deep safety. That's 180 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: been his primary spot at Georgia was deep safety, which 181 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: is a nice comment to Kyle Hamilton, a much bigger 182 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: bodied guy who you want a little bit close to 183 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: safe to the line of scribrace. So like if that's 184 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: kind of where each of them shade, right, but they 185 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: can are also interchangeable, that's a perfect fit. 186 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it fits perfectly. I remember at the at the outset, 187 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: and we've talked about this a few times on the podcast. 188 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: At the outset of this process, I kind of I 189 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: was looking at it like Malachi Stars is just the 190 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: deep safety, the traditional center fielder, and he can do that. 191 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: But like versatility, as you just laid out, is part 192 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: of the game. About half of his snaps came half 193 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: of his snaps are deep safety, and half of them 194 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: were elsewhere m exactly. So it's slot in the box, 195 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: especially fifty to fifty in terms of whether he's a 196 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: little deep safety or a little bit more not. 197 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: At deep sea exactly. 198 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so so like he has that ability, he's 199 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: really good with the ball skills and so that was 200 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: part of. At the beginning, I was like, Oh, he's 201 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: just a deep safety. But as I dug into it 202 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: more and again, I go back to that combine and interview, 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: and the thing that I came away with is it 204 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: felt like every third word out of his mouth was versatility. Yeah, 205 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: and he just talked about versatility. Versatility, versatility. That's what 206 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: he prides himself on. And in order to be versatile, 207 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: you gotta be smart. Okay, we heard all about that. 208 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: You need to have a really good understanding and to 209 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: be confident. And so he has all those abilities, and 210 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: I think that, like, it's just going to a lot. 211 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: I think it's going to all another element of this 212 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: defense because you're gonna have all these really good players 213 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: on the back end of the defense who can all 214 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: play at a really high level. And then it's going 215 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: to keep offenses guessing in a way that's just going 216 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: to challenge these quarterbacks. 217 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: It also helps Ardarius Washington, who can play nickel and safety, 218 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: as we saw at the end of last season. It 219 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: also helps Marlon Humphrey, who was another versatile player. Yeah, 220 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: corner and nickel, And so the Ravens have an embarrassment 221 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: of riches in their secondary that they can play them 222 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: all over the place and it's gonna be really fun 223 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: to watch. I also want to talk about just the 224 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: playmaking skills. And we talked about six interceptions in three seasons. 225 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: You know that's not a number that makes you go wow. Right, 226 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: there are some other guys like Xavier Watson this year's 227 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: drafts who made more interceptions. But you go watch those 228 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: interceptions and look, all right, this is going to sound crazy. 229 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: This is gonna sound crazy. And I said to one 230 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: of our cafeteria workers tonight while I was getting dinner, 231 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: and of course on draft. 232 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: Night, everyone's talking about everybody. Yeah, who you got, Who 233 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: you got? Who you gonna think? You know, I'm telling 234 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: everybody I got my Malchi Starks. 235 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: That's my guy. 236 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: And I'm talking to Brian down in the cafeteria and 237 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I said, look, Brian, this is gonna sound nuts and 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: it's blasphemous, but I see shades of Ed Reid. 239 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: I see shades of that. 240 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not just gonna sit here and say Malchi 241 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Starks is going to become Ed Reid. He's Y's hall 242 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: favorite guy, hasn't played the NFL game, right, But like 243 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you go watch some of those plays that he made 244 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: that he's made, and boy boy. 245 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: It looks reminiscent. Well, look dad, he can go up 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: and get the ball. 247 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah, he was talking more body type, but after 248 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: that he is. 249 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: Kind of wiry like that. He's kind of a unique 250 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: athlete like Ed was. 251 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Jeremiah made the point like body type 252 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: composition wise reminds him of Ed, of course, and edw. 253 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: And I just want to stop you for a second 254 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: because Ed was like a great athlete, but in no 255 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: testing would you have said, oh, Ed ran a blaze. 256 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't Nick amm Emon worry out there running a 257 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: four to three whatever forty. 258 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: That wasn't Ed. 259 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: But like, but you say, who's the most athletic guy 260 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: on the feud? He said that number twenty. 261 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: That that is kind of what Malachi reminds me of. 262 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and so he has like this really good 263 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: athleticism and that's part of why he's able to play 264 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: in all these different roles exactly. And then he has 265 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: he has the production and like there is something to 266 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: be said. Eric has shaved. Eric Tacosta has shaded towards 267 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: drafting players from big schools in his time as GM, 268 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: and he was he was asked about that, and he 269 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: made the point like, when you look at our history, 270 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: a lot of the best players that we've drafted have 271 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: come from these premiere programs. And I mean ed Miami 272 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: in those in the nineties. That was a prettier program, 273 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: no doubt about it, powerhouse and and you could there's 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: lots and lots of different examples of that. And and 275 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: so you get a guy that's just a super product 276 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: player for one of the best teams in college football 277 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: over the last three years, with a tremendous defense. 278 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: That's defenses right, Yeah, it's. 279 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: It's like it's hard not to like that. 280 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely. And so so production wise, I think, uh, 281 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: you know this, this team needs more takeaways. They they 282 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: were kind of middle of the pack this past season 283 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: as a defense, and I think that there's a track 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: record now, you know, that's been part of the problem. 285 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: The bugaboo in the. 286 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Playoffs is they haven't got enough takeaways. They've also turned 287 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: the ball over too much offensively, but they just haven't 288 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: gotten enough takeaways. 289 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: It hasn't matched the regular season. So like, all right, 290 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: let's go get a guy. 291 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, Like I think that that's going to as 292 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: we see this draft unfold, that will that could be 293 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: a theme. Well, I actually get some playmakers takeaway guys. 294 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he has that again, six interceptions. It's not 295 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: like a jaw dropping number, but like it's pretty darn 296 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: good in college. 297 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got his hands on a lot of balls. 298 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of a lot of pass passes, defense. Uh. 299 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: But the theme to what you're talking about that And 300 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that Eric and Hardball both 301 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: mentioned this is that like when they met at the 302 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: end of the season and talked about who are the 303 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: types of guys that we want to bring in here. 304 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: They talked a lot about like makeup, intelligence, attitude, love football, 305 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: and I guess like you would always want those guys. 306 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: But it seemed like both of them mentioned off the 307 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: top of the press conference like they had a type 308 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: of player that they want to bring to Baltimore and 309 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Malachi Starks fits that. 310 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, he's the Red Star player. Yes, you know, and 311 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: for listeners out there who don't know what a red 312 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Star player is. For the Ravens, every scout gets one 313 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Red Star that they can put on a player that 314 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: not only embodies what a Raven is, on the field, 315 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: but off the field, it's everything that we're talking about, 316 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Like they just play the game like a raven, tough, physical, 317 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: all those things, and then the intelligence, the character, the 318 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: football character, the personal care character, all of those kind 319 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: of intangibles are also there. And Malachi Starks as one 320 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: of their Red Star players this year. 321 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like and I think sometimes when you 322 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: start talking about like the intangible stuff, you can overlook 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: the production that we just covered. Yeah, it's not like that. Hey, 324 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: he's a great guy. He's a leader, He's going to 325 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: take great notes in the classroom, like, oh no, he's 326 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: also a baller when he gets on the field. 327 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I also think that his athleticism, and this might have 328 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: been part of why he got to the Ravens at 329 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven, was a little bit misconstrued. 330 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: I kind of talked about the Ed Reid thing. But 331 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: you go back to this. 332 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Guy in Georgia and I'm his like, he is a 333 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: legendary athlete in his community. I mean, we're talking about 334 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: he was the Georgia track athlete of the year in 335 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: the entire state, the track athlete of the year in Georgia, 336 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: which I'm gonna guess they have a lot of athletes 337 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: in Georgia when he was like coming out of middle 338 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: school right then, and he was a state in the 339 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: middle school track high thank you, Dame Brugler, state champion 340 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: long jumper, right he was top five and one hundred, 341 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: one hundred meters. Yeah, he got some straight line speed 342 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: on him too. I mean he was the top rated 343 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: athlete like recruit going into college. Just some of them 344 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: are athletes if they don't have a defined position. Because 345 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: guess what, he played quarterback among many other positions, and 346 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: he went fourteen and one went to the state championship 347 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: as a quarterback yep, in high school, and so he 348 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: was the top rated athlete recruit in the twenty twenty 349 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: two class in the entire state of Georgia. 350 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's a tremendous athlete. And so at 351 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: the combine, like he ran a four or five forty, 352 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: which is like right, so her flat people are like, 353 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's not tremendous, but a for a safety, 354 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: that's plenty fast. And also you you gotta look at 355 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: the full picture, and I think that like the Ravens 356 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: do that, and his other by the way, like when 357 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: you're just talking about the Kyle Hamilton. 358 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't run him blazing. 359 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: Forty dash exactly. Also, other actual testing metrics, not just 360 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: a forty yard dash. He performed very well in other 361 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: testing metrics at the combine. Yeah, it's not like the 362 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: guy had a bad combine. 363 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: He had the fastest like mile per hour in the 364 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: short shuttle. 365 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: Roll of any of anybody. 366 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like his his his combine performance fourteen point nine. 367 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of a misnomer conversation. 368 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: It kind of got misconstrued. 369 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: I think that that I think that's a large reason 370 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: why he could have fallen to twenty seven. It's like 371 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: people just didn't look at him and say, Shamar Sewart 372 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: went whatever. Yeah, ten picks earlier to the Bengals, right now, 373 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: blew up the combine like he. I think a lot 374 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: of people came out of the combine and said, Stark's 375 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: really that kind of a premier athlete that I want 376 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: to use a first round pick on him. 377 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: Well, and this is a tale his ownest time for 378 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: the Ravens. Well, yeah at this now, no'll draft the 379 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: athlete too. Nate Wiggins, he blew it. 380 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Up, you know. 381 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: But I think that if you were talking about a 382 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: safety who blew up the combine. You were talking about 383 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: Nick Emun war because he was bigger, he was faster, 384 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: and so you're like, oh, okay, that's the safety that 385 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: you're talking about, having a tremendous combine. And so everyone 386 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: came out of the combine saying like Nick even Warre. 387 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Now he ended up falling due he didn't get drafted 388 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: in the first round. But but that was the conversation then, 389 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: and I think it overshadowed just how good that Starks 390 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 3: was in some of the other testing. 391 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: And overall, I also think it's a position, right, Do 392 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: I need a safety that runs a four to four 393 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: sub four four? No, it's a different You don't need 394 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: that kind you don't have to have that kind of 395 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: speed at safety at corner. If I'm gonna put that 396 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: guy on an island and expect them to run with 397 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and co. Yeah, I want Nay Wiggins to 398 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: be able to run in the four threes. You know, like, yes, 399 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: but safety is a different position. 400 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, and and you know it's always 401 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: part of the question is always like who's going to 402 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: get there? Eric did make the point that he was 403 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: by far the best available guy on the board. That 404 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: was quite by far the best available guy there. Yep, 405 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: and I was it was interesting. We actually did get 406 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: a chance to ask Eric this. But right before the 407 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: Ravens were on the clock, the Atlanta Falcons traded in 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: front of them. They traded with the Rams, and it's 409 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: like whenever a team trades right in front of you, 410 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: you wonder, like, what's gonna what's gonna happen here? They 411 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: end up taking the passbuster James Pierce, and no idea 412 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: what the Ravens had as a great on James Pierce. 413 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: But I got to believe that they were just thrilled 414 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: that they end up getting Malachi Starks, who's still there 415 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: for them. 416 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And Malachi you know, he said he was 417 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: he was playing a game of Uno, getting ready to 418 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: play a game of in the green room and every 419 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: Bay good game. I still get down with some Unos 420 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: sometimes with the kids. Yeah, Nick, it wrong. 421 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's also like I think for these guys that 422 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: end up going at the end of the first round, 423 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: like it's a long night, like it's a long day. 424 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in. 425 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: Green Bay for a few days, you know, they get 426 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: they get the suit on, they walk the red carpet 427 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: like three hours before the draft, like and by the 428 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: time it's done, you just like, I to get my 429 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: mind off of this thing. The green rooms get a 430 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: little empty here. I just need to pass the time, 431 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: and so playing a little bit of Uno and the 432 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Ravens call and ends up being in you know, a 433 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 3: great story. 434 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm really happy for Malachi starts to you know, you 435 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: see him with his family there in Green Bay. And 436 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: by the way, make sure you check out our interview 437 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: with Malachi Starks. Cassie Cherigo was in Green Bay. So 438 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: it's always fun. Also when your guy's there and gets picked. 439 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: That's that's like selfishly, we're all rooting for the fact that, 440 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: like we have a crew there and it could go right. 441 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: It's a boomore, but I want to set and the crew 442 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: for a reason. 443 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it worked out. We've actually had pretty 444 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: good luck if you go back over the years, we've 445 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: had a pretty good luck when it comes to the 446 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: draft and have the player at the draft. So always 447 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: excited to have him. 448 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: There and you know, just full circle here. It never 449 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: gets old seeing these guys have these emotions and you 450 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: can see that Malachi starts immediately after he has drafted. 451 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: The emotions were there, and you know that's the other 452 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: box that he checks is the advert city that he's 453 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: come through just as a person, you know, I mean, 454 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: this is a kid who, according to the Dame Brugler 455 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: of the Athletic, was homeless, you know, from grades three 456 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: to six and kind of bouncing around between temporary housing 457 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I can't imagine and for him 458 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: to get through that with his family and uh, you know, 459 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: become the person that he is, you just feel even 460 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: happier for the guy. 461 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that he is someone. When we had 462 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: a chance to talk with him, the theme was like 463 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: I can't wait there and get to work. I can't 464 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: wait to get there and get to work. And I 465 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: think that that speaks to the type of player. 466 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: And also it's supposedly a great guy in the community too, 467 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: like just a legend back from Georgia, like with young 468 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: younger guys like this guy just. 469 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Want Smith. 470 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: It was it was asked about him this week and 471 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: rocol was like, look, I don't know a lot of guys, 472 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: but when he's asked about Malachi Stars, He's like, everything 473 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: I've heard about him is that they rave about. So 474 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: even Rokwan's getting the good reports from Georgia about how 475 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: good of a player Malachi Starks is. And he also 476 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: talked like there's there's confidence with him, but I also 477 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: got a real sense of humility too, like he's like, 478 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm excited to come learn from Kyle Hamilton him like, 479 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm excited to learn from these veteran Pro Bowl caliber players. 480 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: That's what I And so again he's not coming in 481 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: like I'm running the show. He's coming in like I'm 482 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: a confident player and I'm going to get to learn 483 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: from some of the best. And I think that that's 484 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: like the right approach for a rookie to have. 485 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: Completely agree. So a great pick for the Ravens. 486 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Really excited about Malachi Stark's really excited to continue to 487 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: brag about hitting my pick instead of you. I know 488 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: your selection was Derek Harmon. By the way, he was 489 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Steeler. You have to live with that too. 490 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: I know, if your guy's a Steeler, every play that 491 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: he makes, I'm going to just lament that that pick 492 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: and it's going to be etched in history. So we're 493 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: going to take a quick break when we come back. 494 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: We're going to share some final thoughts on the draft 495 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: and also do a quick preview on what the Ravens 496 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: could do on the second day. You're listening to the 497 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Lounge podcast. We are coming to you from the seat 498 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 3: Geek Studio. We want to mention our partners at Draftking 499 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: sports Book. They are an official sports betting partner of 500 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens Draft King Sports Book. The Crown is yours. So, 501 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: as we mentioned, the draft kind of broke the Ravens way, 502 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: I think in a lot of ways. A couple of 503 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: notes from me, just to look around the division. You 504 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: mentioned that Cincinnati took Schamar Stewart. He was linked to 505 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: the Ravens in plenty of mock drafts. So they get 506 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: the really athletic gifted pass rusher. 507 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Low on production, high on upside, yep athletic upside for sure. 508 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: Uncertainty there in Cincinnati with Trey Hendrickson, who's asked for 509 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: a new contract and could they trade him. Not sure 510 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: how the addition of Shamar Stewart impacts Trey Hendrickson and 511 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: his status, but they get a talented player there. The 512 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Browns were one of the big stories in the first 513 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: part of the draft. They had the second pick coming 514 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 3: into the night, moved back from two to five, end 515 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: up adding some additional picks, including one of the second 516 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: round this year in a first round er next year. 517 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: They gotta three spots. 518 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: They moved three spots back, and they get a ton 519 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: of return, But on the flip side, they give up 520 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: the potential of getting Travis Hunter. So the Jaguars move up. 521 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: They take Travis Hunter, who a lot of people felt 522 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: was the best player in the draft, of course, won 523 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: the heidst Of Trophy. 524 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Player can play both ways, super talent, generational prospect. 525 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: And then the Browns end up taking defensive tackle Mason 526 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: Graham out of Michigan, So certainly not as exciting as 527 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: it would have been with Travis Hunter. You think you're 528 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: getting this two wave player who's a Heisman Trophy winner, 529 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: and they end up going with the defensive lineman. Now 530 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: on the flip side, they get an extra second round pick, 531 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: and they've got a chance to get should or Sanders 532 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: if they want to go that route. In the second round. 533 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: You didn't get drafted. 534 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: He did not get drafted, so he goes he should Sanders. 535 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: Everyone talked about him coming into the draft, doesn't get drafted, 536 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 3: Browns have a chance to get him. 537 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: On Day two, and the New York Giants drafted their 538 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: quarterback and Jackson Dart they were the other team that 539 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: was certainly in that market. Yes, the Saints certainly could 540 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback still, but the Browns are going to 541 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: have the second pick, and I'll tell you the Titans 542 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: are not taking quarterbacks. So unless the Titans were to 543 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: trade back, then the Browns are going to have their 544 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: shot at Shdor Sanders. Do they take it, I don't know, 545 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: but they're going to back to back picks, and so 546 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: it would be surprising. 547 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: The Browns had the first pick of the second round. 548 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: They have the first pick. 549 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: They got the first pick of the second round, so 550 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: they have a chance if they want. 551 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: Him and brown exactly. 552 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Now, that would be an interesting pairing Dion and all 553 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: the glitz and glamour heading to Cleveland. 554 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see, we'll see if that happens. 555 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: My takeaway from the division was everybody wants to try 556 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: to load up to stop Lamar Jackson, Dereck Henry, everybody 557 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: in the vision took a defensive lineman Derek Carmon to 558 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: the Steelers Shamar Stewarts d end Edge to Cincinnati and 559 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: then the Browns with Mason Graham. 560 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: So you know, the Steelers didn't like Derek Can. We're 561 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: running all over him. 562 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: In the playoffs and everybody else down like Lamar, They're 563 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: they're tired of that, and so defensive linemen heavy. 564 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I in addition to like losing my chance to 565 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: have my mock draft hit with Derek Carmon, the defensive 566 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: tackle from Oregon going to the Steelers, it is painful 567 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: because I to be honest, I think he's a really 568 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: good player, and I think that like the cop on 569 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: him is Cam Hayward and who's been just like a 570 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: like a nuisance for the Ravens for like a decade, 571 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: you know, just a really good player who's who's difficult 572 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: so to stop it makes life hard. So I think 573 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: they did get a good player. So that's that's a 574 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: tough blow to see him going the division. 575 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 576 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: There, you know they're you're they're gonna get good players 577 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: in the first round, and you know that's power goes. 578 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: That's how it goes exactly. More. My focus with the 579 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: Steelers is who's playing quarterback? 580 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I'm really curious to see if 581 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: we see that move on day two. 582 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of people thought they could take Sanders, 583 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: they passed and they took Derek Carmon instead. So quickly, 584 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: just what's your thought on the direction? You know, my 585 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: mock basically blow it up. I guess I still have 586 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: The other great part is that set up for success? Yeah? 587 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: Now you know both of us actually had a corner 588 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 3: back in the second round, so we both could could 589 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: hit that. You know, as I look at the second round, 590 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: there's still plenty of good corners on the board. Both 591 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: of the corners, of course, who we ended up taking 592 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: taking the second round or still on the board, Shavon 593 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: Ravel so you took and I took. That's right, Thomas 594 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: out of Florida state, So both of them are still there. Yeah. 595 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 3: So I think that could be a position that the Ravens. 596 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Go, gosh, this secondary you know, you take Malachi starts 597 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: in the first and then you go corner in the second. 598 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be I mean. 599 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: I think ed Rusher certainly, Yeah, high possibility there and 600 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, this would be the spots that I would look. 601 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: At the other possibility and I've I've mentioned this, like, 602 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: I'll be curious to see what happens in the running 603 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: back situation. 604 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: I sure, go ahead. 605 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've mentioned this many times, Like I still think that, 606 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: like if there's a blue hip running back, and I 607 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: mentioned the Ohio State running backs, both of them Trevon 608 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: Henderson Henderson and quinch Quinn Shawn Judkins as being like 609 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: really talented and maybe just because the Ravens took a 610 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 3: second round running back out of a high state when 611 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: nobody expected them to with JK. Dobbins, that's like stuck 612 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: and burned in my head. But if if one of 613 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 3: those guys is there, I think it would be an 614 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: interesting conversation. 615 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Surprise pick outside of outside of corner, defensive line, edge rusher, 616 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: this would be the big three remaining outside of that. 617 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: If I were picking a surprise position outside of that, 618 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I would probably take inside linebacker and an interior offensive lineman. 619 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Offensive linean could happen at any time, yeah, but I would. 620 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: I would probably say, if there's going to be a 621 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: surprise second rounder for me, that would be an inside linebacker. 622 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: Well, John Campbell was a guy who thought maybe like 623 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: could be too good of a player to pass up, 624 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: and the Ravens did pass them up. They go with 625 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: Malachi Starks. The linebacker from Alabama was on the board. 626 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: The Ravens went with Starks, And so may I would 627 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: I would be more surprised at linebacker than I would 628 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: running back, just as example I. 629 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: Will, I would I would put inside linemakers. 630 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: Maybe well, maybe I'm buying into the smoke screens and 631 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: and the way that the Ravens have talked about the 632 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: possibility of drafting a running back. Uh, but that's uh, 633 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: that'll be part of the fun Friday night. So uh, 634 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: we are going to do another podcast on Saturday once 635 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: the whole draft is done. So we'll do a full 636 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: recap podcast on Saturday once we have rounds two through 637 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: seven and put a nice bow on it. Also, Malachi 638 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: Starks is going to be in the building on Friday. 639 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: He's gonna fly here from Green Bay, and we're gonna 640 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: have all sorts of fun content playing with him. While 641 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: he's here. He's gonna do an introductory press conference. So 642 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: there's a lot happening. It's a fun time. You guys 643 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: can send your emails. We already got a bunch of 644 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: home people celebrating your success. So I appreciate you all 645 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: those out put them on the board, put them on 646 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: the fridge. 647 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 648 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can email us at the lounge at Ravens 649 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: at NFL dot net. Thank you for listening and we 650 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: will be back with you again on Saturday