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Speaker 1: Guy Who Tips podcast because Rod and Karen are a hot.

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Speaker 2: First got it when he was six, didn't know any tricks.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, first time he got on it, he slipped,

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Speaker 2: landed on his hip and busted his lip. For a week,

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Speaker 2: he had to talk with a list like this. Now

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Speaker 2: we can end the story right there. But shorty did

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Speaker 2: he quit? Here was something in the air. Yeah, he said.

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Speaker 2: It was something so uphill and he couldn't fight the fillings.

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Speaker 2: label to misfit a Bandit cool. His neighbors couldn't stand it,

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Speaker 2: they said it was getting late in here. So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: young man, that's okay in here. And so we kicked push. Kay,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Black Guy to his podcast with your host.

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Speaker 3: Rod and Carrie kick push.

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Speaker 2: And we are live on a Saturday, ready to do

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Speaker 2: feed back for all the people that you know left

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Speaker 2: us feedback throughout the week. Now, this might be a

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Speaker 2: shorter show, I don't know, okay, because all the ways

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Speaker 2: to leave us feedback, I won't lie.

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Speaker 3: My favorite way is five star reviews.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we didn't get any this week, not a single,

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Speaker 4: for this one, not on no platform, not no, not one.

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Speaker 5: So do we need to close the doors of the church.

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Speaker 3: What is happening here? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Is it because I bought Aaron Lamborghini? Okay, we still

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Speaker 2: need money for the building fund, so thank goodness. The

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Speaker 2: people that donate to the show continue to donate. But

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Speaker 2: the five star reviews, we have no testimonies this week, y'all.

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Speaker 6: No, no, nobody has been moved this week. I mean nobody.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's the open time I mean, niggas love

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Speaker 6: to talk. Can't nobody give a ten minute testimony about

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Speaker 6: about the about uh how the black guy who tips

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Speaker 6: has changed their lives?

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Speaker 3: That's how they do. I see how y'all do, y'all.

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Speaker 6: Ain't nobody got no stories about I was in the hospital.

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Speaker 6: You know, y'all helped me get through death. Y'all help

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Speaker 3: I've been listening to y'all since the bit.

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Speaker 6: So nobody in the room got a testimony today.

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Speaker 3: I see, y'all. Not a damn single person can.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's sitting downstairs. So everybody in the room down for

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Speaker 6: five star review? Right, everybody? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Everybody in the chat room. I left five stars. I'm assuming,

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Speaker 2: I mean, should all right, everybody? You showed up right?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you breast play.

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Speaker 3: I guess we're just not good enough for them, no more,

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Speaker 2: And then we didn't get any voicemails this week, which, okay,

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Speaker 2: we did get some emails.

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Speaker 3: We'll go over those and uh yeah, that's that's that's. Uh.

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Speaker 2: People could leave comments on our website, the blackoutils dot com.

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Speaker 3: We did get those.

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Speaker 2: You can vote in post it got some comments and nails,

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Speaker 3: Niggas left twenty one emails right in three hour long shows.

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Speaker 3: That's longer than the show, y'all.

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Speaker 2: It should be called this too much feedback? But no,

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to look up when you look down.

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Speaker 2: saying this campaign. Yes, it's clearly about Bernie. No, it's

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Speaker 2: definitely about Hillary. It's not about either of those white people. Karen,

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Speaker 2: it's not about either one of those white people. While

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Speaker 2: in our poll on our website, Bernie comes in last.

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Speaker 3: It's so sad. Really, I mean, Hillary not even running.

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Speaker 3: We had episode eighteen seventy six, Welcome to the Cookout.

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Speaker 3: Billy Ray.

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Speaker 2: Well, Billy Ray Sorry, jumped on the remix Old Town Road.

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Speaker 2: Dia says high Rod and Karen, Honestly, I could only

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Speaker 2: understand two or three words Kodak Black said, and the

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Speaker 2: on my high valarian ears.

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Speaker 3: But what scuffs my chucks? Is this?

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Speaker 2: I know now that Kodak Black was charged with rate,

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Speaker 2: But what drew criticism lately, especially from the rap community

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Speaker 3: We don't need nothing, we don't nothing, want nothing to

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Speaker 3: But none of them gave any indication that his rape

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Speaker 2: Listening to those rappers talk about how my foul Kodak

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Speaker 2: you really want to help someone, you pick up the

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Speaker 2: and then suggest they reconsidered the attactics. But that is

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Speaker 2: if you really want to see someone grow and they

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Speaker 3: She put that in parentheses.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing I would say about that though,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of these people are not his friend, correct,

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Speaker 2: just because these motherfuckers rap together and industry people call

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of them don't have close relationships like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a word that even as we started getting

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Speaker 2: more and more of a spotlight on what we do,

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Speaker 2: the term friends start meaning less and less because it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they do a podcast, they're nice, We're nice to them,

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Speaker 2: it's cordial. Sure, that's my friend. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: I don't extend that to just everybody you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I do not.

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Speaker 3: Now everybody can come in my house, not everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm not cool with everybody to the point where we're

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Speaker 2: is people look at the term of not being a friend.

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Speaker 2: you too, did you too, But let me extend this though.

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Speaker 2: Only really protecting Nipsey here, You're not even really protecting London,

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Speaker 2: what they're talking about. If you want to honor your woman,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Michelle says, question about Billy ray Syrus, Is it

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Speaker 3: Achy Break on my playlist. Yeah, I think Billy Ray

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Speaker 2: To be honest, set said, I was listening to Pandora

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Speaker 3: Guys. Hey, that's all Karen. Thank you to Karen. No problem.

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Speaker 6: I forgot, Yeah, I was like, that was too busy

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Speaker 2: I totally forget, fucking forgot about that that kind. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had been partying too hard on the next

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Speaker 3: Is Kodak Black really canceled? Yes or no?

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Speaker 5: Karen No.

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Speaker 2: Karen says no. Sixty nine percent of y'all agree with her. No,

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Speaker 2: He went too far this time. It would be whack

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Speaker 3: Come on. But I don't think he's getting canceled either.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think that's how it works.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: That is not how it works.

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Speaker 2: And he been offensive from jump, like this thing where

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Speaker 3: It's like, but he this kind of his brand. I

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Speaker 2: Lakeita says, no idea who this person is. But if

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Speaker 2: you can't cancel R Kelly, you can't cancel nobody. Seet said,

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Speaker 2: truth be told. I don't think anybody cares enough about

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Speaker 3: He's a fool. Yeah, I'll say this. He seems to

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he moved units like he ain't not funny,

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Speaker 6: he ain't no nobody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what the sales are.

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Speaker 2: I just think outside of our generation, he seems to

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Speaker 6: But you know, it wasn't the Internet where we was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing is not even about that.

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Speaker 2: It's the like, it's just the fact that the measurables

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Speaker 3: We were growing up.

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Speaker 2: When we were growing up, it was radios, fans and

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Speaker 3: Maybe even less than that.

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Speaker 2: I think people are constantly surprised I have a podcast

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Speaker 6: Correct that the audiences don't always cross over. Oh you

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Speaker 6: spend money now, now I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, that being said, I never know who's

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Speaker 3: All right, agreed.

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Speaker 2: We had episode eighteen seventy seven Homecoming. Logan says, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, I love how excited Karen got when she

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Speaker 2: said played the trailer her Joy. Her joy is so

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Speaker 3: And yes, Beyonce is a genius.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Logan, I can't help myself, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Doron Dwayne ellis Man, whoever wrote y'all that email? It's

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Speaker 5: I don't think it is.

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00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: Also, I'm a little skeptic goal that the person is

438
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: who they say they are. Oh, I guess you felt

439
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: it too. They playing both sides bullshit is so whacked,

440
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: especially when it doesn't correlate it all. Referring to President

441
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: Obama and his quote unquote scandals, Katries two six says, Hey, guys,

442
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: I just wanted to shed a little more light on

443
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart's interview with Joe Rogan. It's probably the best

444
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: place for him to talk through recent events and probably

445
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: where he should have turned to immediately after all the controversy.

446
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: The long form, unedited platform gave him more time to

447
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: explain himself, and Joe tried his best to sort of

448
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: nudge Kevin in the right direction, so it wasn't nearly

449
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 2: as upset and confrontational. Yeah, it's funny that Joe Rogan

450
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: would be the one to one to push him to

451
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 2: be more understanding.

452
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 3: And progressive about LGBTQ stuff.

453
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: Kevin seems to have intentions, great intentions and ideas for

454
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: improving our community, but he's just not that smart.

455
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: He admitted to not knowing much about the gay community.

456
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: Hard to believe in this modern era.

457
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: Even mentioning asking Lee Daniels why Lee hadn't tried to

458
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: educate him on the LGBTQ community before all the controversy. Damn,

459
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: that's one of the most privileged things you could possibly say.

460
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Hey Blackett, Hey you gay, Why don't you tell me

461
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: all this shit. He also admitted that he doesn't read much,

462
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: which for me explained a lot. I mean, y'all could

463
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: have I could have told you that without anyway. He

464
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: just seemed very simple, but not that everyone needs to

465
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: be woke or have PhD. I think he's made the

466
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: best decision to just stay in this lane as much

467
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: as possible.

468
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I got that from the NPR interview.

469
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to Joe Rogan's podcast with him on

470
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: there or whatever. Maybe I'll give it a spind at

471
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: some point, but I mean, he always could have.

472
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: Benefited from a long form discussion and context.

473
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: But let's not just say, let's not just act like

474
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: it was just the mediums he was using. He also

475
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: had his own radio show where he was saying these things.

476
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: That's not anyone forcing him to say this shit, you know,

477
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: And maybe he respects Joe Rogan in a way that

478
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: allows him to bounce off of him. Or maybe he's

479
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: becoming less defensive as time goes on, you know, who knows,

480
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: maybe he's starting to see like, Okay, I could have

481
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: handled this differently or whatever. We'll never know. It's really

482
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: in his own mind and only he can explain that.

483
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I felt all this and the

484
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: other stuff that I listened to him talk about it on.

485
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: He's not that deep. He's not that.

486
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Thoughtful, He's not that what do you call it introspective,

487
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: And so while it also comes out of his comedy,

488
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: it's while a lot of people look at his comedy

489
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: and goes very surface level, it's not that funny to me,

490
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: but it's also at the same level of funny where

491
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: everyone can laugh at it because he's not going that deep.

492
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: You know.

493
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think, you know, I would

494
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: have to hear the interview to really know for sure,

495
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: but my guess is just he's kind of calmed down

496
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: a little bit, and maybe Joe Rogan being a comedian,

497
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: he respects him a little bit more than say Terry Gross,

498
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: who's not a comedian, trying to tell him about comedy,

499
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, because there was things in the Terry Gross

500
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: interview that I found, Like I was listening to Terry

501
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: Gross and being like, yeah, that's just not true, Terry,

502
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

503
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: Because I think.

504
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: There's like a woke part of society that says shit like, well,

505
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: we all know good comedy punches up.

506
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not even true.

507
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 5: No, that's not it.

508
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Shit every well, no one makes this type of joke.

509
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: That's not true. There is you can laugh at shit

510
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: that punches down. You can laugh and shit that is

511
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: not of social commentary. It's not taking on the fucking

512
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: proletariat or whatever the fuck.

513
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: Like, not all comedy is, like, you know, like.

514
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: Speaking truth to power, socialism, shit, Like some shit is

515
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: funny just because it's fucked up right right. Nobody likes

516
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: to talk about that part of it because everybody wants

517
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: to feel like they're above it, which is why comedy

518
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: doesn't work on.

519
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: Twitter or Facebook.

520
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: But it does work in a comedy club, and it

521
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: does work on the stage, and it does work in

522
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: a comedy special, and it does work sometimes in a podcast,

523
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: depends on how you set it up. Like it can't

524
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: work people just like the people are I don't know

525
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: if they're ashamed of themselves for laughing at that shit

526
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: or what.

527
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: But they try to act like it doesn't exist, and.

528
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: It's such a lot and it's it offends me to

529
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: hear people lie like that, where it's just like, well,

530
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: we all know no one likes a joke like blank.

531
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, the fuck people do people like shit?

532
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: I laughed.

533
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: I laughed so hard when Chris Rock did his black

534
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: people Versus Niggas bit. I the first time I heard

535
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: that bit, I think I had an asthma attack. I

536
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: laughed so hard because it was funny as fuck. But

537
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: he's clearly classic like classes on punching down. That is

538
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: not you know, he's pleading for himself as a black

539
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: man who is you know, going through all this shit

540
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 2: and like wanting to work the world to see him

541
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: a certain way. But he also is punching down in

542
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: a Classes way on a piece of paper. When you

543
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: write that shit out, you're like, ooh, this is fucked up.

544
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: You know, when they made a joke on the Office

545
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: about Michael Scott wanting to perform that bit at the office,

546
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: where we're like, oh, this is oh, clearly a racist bit.

547
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 3: This is not funny at all.

548
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: And yet somehow it was funny, and people quoted it

549
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: for years and to the point where he stopped doing

550
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: it because he did start to realize, like, this is

551
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: actually fucked up. But the point being, people laughed at

552
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: that because it was funny. You there's something. The best

553
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: jokes to me are the ones you don't even agree with.

554
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: But you can't help but laugh as it is funny.

555
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 6: Right right, and and and and that's the that's the

556
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 6: thing about it. A lot of people go, my definition

557
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 6: of comedy is comedy. That's the problem. Your definition of

558
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 6: comedy ain't comedy. Comedy is wider than where you draw

559
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: your personal lines. And I think when people draw their

560
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 6: personal lines and you offend the cross those personal lines,

561
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you're not funny.

562
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: I'm offending.

563
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 6: And you got the right to feel however you want

564
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: to feel, baby, but you cannot dictate, and you cannot

565
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: tell a comedian what's funny and what's not funny, in my.

566
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Opinion, because the thing is, if it's quote unquote.

567
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: Not funny, the audience will let them know because people

568
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 6: will stop supporting like like like like like put like this,

569
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 6: the the market will do the correction quote unquote like masses.

570
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 6: But if something is funny, in my mind, the way

571
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 6: I function is just funny because like PATRISA. O'Neill was

572
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 6: highly fucking problematic. A lot of people put that nigga

573
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 6: on a pedestal. That nigga was terror and and not

574
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 6: terrible as far as that personal human being, but just

575
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: his comedy will be like, god damn, that's misogynistic, God damn,

576
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 6: that's sexiest.

577
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: But you know what, my ass was laughing because the

578
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: shit was fucking funny.

579
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And well, the thing for me is like the

580
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: people change, times change, all the shit changes anyway, So

581
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: there's a you know, so maybe there's something that's funny

582
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: today that you know a year from now you'll be like, oh,

583
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: that was fucked up. Like I said, Chris Rock's bit,

584
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: it's perfect. It was one of the funniest bits. Everyone

585
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: was talking about it. Everyone was like, this dude is

586
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: like amazing, He's the fucking this is the best bit

587
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: I've heard of my life. And then you know, over

588
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: the years people start breaking it down like it's not

589
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: it's actually kind.

590
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Of fucked up, you know, And that's okay.

591
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: But the thing that's weird to me is with Kevin Hard,

592
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: with all these comedians, they have a point. Kevin Hart

593
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: does have a point. He is not the guy to

594
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: articulate that point. He can't bring it to fruition. I

595
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: think what is happening right now is a lot of peace.

596
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: People feel his point even though he can't explain it,

597
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: and there's a merit to it that people don't want

598
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: to discuss when they're on our side of the hour,

599
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: because then you have to give up some of that

600
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: power dynamic to go okay. Maybe sometimes we do go

601
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: too far, you know. I think the underlying sentiment that

602
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: he feels I should not be destroyed, I should not

603
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: be taken out of here because I made a joke

604
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: ten years ago that I would that I stopped doing,

605
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't do today and don't agree with and thought and

606
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: thought that everyone understood. And the aspic is a comedy.

607
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: This is just a joke. I realized I was wrong

608
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: for that shit I and I obviously feel wrong because

609
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: I won't do it again. But at the same time,

610
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to apologize for the shit

611
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: because it was just a joke and my contry, my conceding,

612
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: my concession of no longer doing the joke should be enough.

613
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who can identify with that.

614
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday. Social media

615
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: could have been the biggest tool to measure and calculate

616
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: human growth of all time, because I don't think there's

617
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: a person on social media that has ever really shared

618
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: a lot that has.

619
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Not grown in that sharing.

620
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Agreed, there's like it's been at least since MySpace probably

621
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: like twenty years, but since Twitter ten years, since Facebook

622
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years. If people could look at themselves on

623
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: day one of their social media experience too, now most

624
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: people have been exposed to views they did not know

625
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: about before. And by growth, I don't mean necessarily positive growth.

626
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: So these motherfuckers are not alright, so these motherfuckers are

627
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: now hotels. But it could have been a tool to

628
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: calculate and to measure change in people, to be like,

629
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: what changes in a human being. But there's kind of

630
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: this thing where even when someone.

631
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Does change for the better, when.

632
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: They were saying something ten years ago, they wouldn't dare

633
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: say now when they have learned more about life and

634
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: they see things the opposite now, right, Hey, I used

635
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: to be homophobic, Now I look back and I'm like,

636
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: that was so horrible.

637
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: I said that.

638
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I said that. I say the opposite. Now,

639
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: I would never like I learned what my words meant.

640
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: I learned who it hurt. I learned these things, right,

641
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: That is a lot of people, a lot more people

642
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: than people are willing to admit. Yes, But instead of

643
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: it being that kind of thing where we go, yo,

644
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: look where this person started, Look where they ended up,

645
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: it really became look where this person started. They should

646
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: stay stuck there forever. You know, it's oh so and

647
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: so got a job. Let's go find that the shit

648
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: where they fucked up and bring them back to this

649
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: point and be like, hey, remember when you said this,

650
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: and that person could be like, I don't feel that

651
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: way anymore.

652
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that I was wrong. That's actually

653
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: not good enough.

654
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: Oh No, Like people act like there's apologies that are

655
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: being accepted. They're only being accepted when you like the

656
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: person agreed. When you don't like the person, which is

657
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: why you go find shit like this, you're not accepting

658
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: that apology. And if he apologized before apologize twenty times,

659
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. The point is I don't like you.

660
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to accept your apology. I don't want

661
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: if it's that thing we want you to perform for us.

662
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: But then even when you perform, what do we say

663
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: you're performing because we demanded it. Hey, this thing you

664
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: said was offensive? Hey, oh you know what I forgot?

665
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: I even said that, But I'm sorry, I see what

666
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: y'all talking about. You do on'tly apologize because we told you, well,

667
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: fuck it then, right. And So that's the part with

668
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Hard that people related to, and it's the reason

669
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: I think more than a lot of these guys, he's

670
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 2: been able to continue unbothered by like it bothers him

671
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: deep down because he say, you gon to like him,

672
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: but his career has been mostly unfazed. He hasn't lost

673
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: any projects, No one's taking him out of promotion for projects,

674
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: and like he's continuing to be okay because there's part

675
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: of society that's starting to realize how overbearing some of

676
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: these demands are. And there's empathy now for the offender

677
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: in a way that's not just like this defiant empathy

678
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: that you see for like r Kelly fans and shit

679
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: that's like, fuck you, you don't tell me what it's not

680
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: that there's this other thing that's like, well, fuck, if

681
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart, it's gonna be the guy y'all brain down,

682
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: and we don't feel like he's out here trying to

683
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: hurt anybody. We're not going to be with y'all on everything.

684
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: And so now you got people going poor Kevin hard

685
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: in a way that probably wouldn't have happened if folks

686
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: hadn't gone so hard at him to be like, he

687
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: needs to get out the paint. And he had a

688
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: fought back so hard and wasn't so essentially hurt by

689
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: this shit. He would never admit it, but he was

690
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: hurt if it wasn't for all that coming together. I

691
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: don't think he continues to cook like this, but also

692
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: he still doesn't. He can never articulate that point for himself.

693
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: He will always just be like I'm fine, I'm over it,

694
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: while he's clearly not and it's just joke, move on,

695
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: it's from my life. But it's not really like he

696
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: is not the guy, like someone says, he doesn't seem

697
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: very studious in that way to be he just I

698
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: know what's funny. This is funny, and I'm gonna keep trying.

699
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: And if I get it wrong, I'll recalculate and get

700
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: it right. He's that, he's not this thinking man's comic.

701
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: Yeah. And also I think for me.

702
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 6: When it comes not all the people, because the thing

703
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 6: about it is that because of social media, people are

704
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 6: hearing voices of people's and mogulized groups that they would

705
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 6: have never heard before.

706
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: That's very valid, and these.

707
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: People need to be there, and these people voices need

708
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: to be heard.

709
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: That's valid too.

710
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 6: But these groups, there are people that are on the

711
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: fringe that are just so.

712
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: Extremely hurt.

713
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 6: And so this particular group has done something to me,

714
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 6: and because they've done something to me, I will never

715
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: forgive them.

716
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: Being white people, be it straight people, be it whatever.

717
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 6: And there's nothing that anybody from this group, even if

718
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 6: their intentions are right, and just even if time has

719
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: evolved and they have showed you that they're a better

720
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 6: human being, you have people in these magiized groups that

721
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 6: just don't want to hear it.

722
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: And those people, to an extent.

723
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 5: Are the problem.

724
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: And they stop progress. Well, you know what, that's not

725
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: fair because.

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 6: And when and when when I say and when I

727
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: say stop progress, I don't mean it's stop progress.

728
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: And uh, the thing is people want to be heard,

729
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: and that's the thing.

730
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 6: Everybody wants to be heard, and and and that's fine,

731
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 6: and when I may stop progress, you get to the

732
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 6: point to where people may be wanting to listen. But

733
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 6: when they getting beat upside of head by these people

734
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: at the extreme, that's when the fuck it comes in

735
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 6: and that's when the conversation stops and nobody wants to

736
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: move past that point.

737
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, what I was gonna say is, I don't think

738
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: that's fair to say, is the marginalized people that are

739
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: stopping progress by saying whatever they're saying.

740
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: I think it's bigger than that.

741
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: There's people that really don't have a dog in a fight,

742
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: that love the chaos of the fight, and they're the

743
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: ones that really seem to like hold shit.

744
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Up, you know what I mean. Like with Kevin Hard, it's.

745
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: Not necessarily like it's his resistance to it that that

746
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: causes most of the problem, because we both agree that

747
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: if he would have just came out and said I apologize,

748
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that, ninety nine point nine percent

749
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: of people would have moved the fuck on, because like

750
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: some people would have still been mad at him.

751
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: But what he's not gonna host the oscars.

752
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: He apologized it was He was the first dude that

753
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: we really seen be like fucking apology, you know. But

754
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: what I'm what I'm talking about is there's a lot

755
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: of people who just like the fight, correct, And it's

756
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: not about them being marginalized or whatever. Like there's hurt

757
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: people out there too. There's a lot of people that's

758
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: not in these groups. They're not in the group of whatever.

759
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: It's just here's a thing I can note about this

760
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: perfect to not being perfect.

761
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

762
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: Now, if that's the case, I will rephrase what I

763
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: just said. There are people in the modulized groups, and

764
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: I still do believe this, they will never forgive people

765
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 6: that have hurt them. But you have those people out there,

766
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: and then you have people that just like to argue

767
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 6: and fight. And some people in that extreme like to

768
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 6: argue and fight also, Yeah, of course.

769
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: Yes, and and so so so.

770
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: So that's why I said I need to rephrase this

771
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 6: and articulate this in a better manner. You have some

772
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 6: people they just want to fight. And when people when

773
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 6: you deal with people that just want to fight, they're

774
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 6: not forgiving. They want to fight, They want to bicker,

775
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 6: they want to argue. That's the mo that that that

776
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: that that's how they make their career. And sometimes a

777
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 6: lot of times they living is just arguing and bickering

778
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: and fighting in the conjunction with with that small group

779
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 6: and people that don't give a fuck hopping in arguing

780
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 6: because they like to fight too. And so you have

781
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 6: this collaboration of people that are mad, angry, hurt all

782
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 6: in one and a lot of times the people that

783
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: are coming into auguing fight a lot of times they're

784
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: not even on their side. The sad part about it,

785
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 6: they just don't like this person. This is just something

786
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 6: that can they can hold hands and make this false

787
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: union that ain't real because eventually those two groups will

788
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 6: fall out too.

789
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives us a thing to fight about.

790
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 5: Correct. Correct.

791
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: And the thing about social media is just that it's

792
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: a constant fight for some folks and it just like

793
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: like that's the thing I'm saying, Like with the marginalized

794
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: thing is like you know with black people that if

795
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: somebody says something racist, of course we're gonna be like

796
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: fuck them and we don't fuck with them forever, correct

797
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: or whatever. And then what happens. White people come in

798
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: and go, y'all are the problem. We can't move on.

799
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: Y'all are being devisive.

800
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to ever be like that towards any

801
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: other group of people, Like I don't want to be

802
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: like y'all.

803
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Pay people are the problem. Marginalized people, y'all always want

804
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: to fight people.

805
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: It's not that it's literally, just that there's a lot

806
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: of people that aren't about reconciliation anyway, and so go ahead,

807
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: go ahead, no, go ahead, go ahead, Okay, But there's

808
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: a lot of people that aren't about reconciliation anyway in

809
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: the first place, and they're always drawn to a fight.

810
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: They're always drawn to a fire.

811
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: And it's people on Kevin Hart side that are doing

812
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: that shit, right. They don't really care about Kevin Hart.

813
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: They don't even really care about his joke. They didn't

814
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: even think that shit was funny. They just want to

815
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: be like, y'all.

816
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: Offended again, huh. You know?

817
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: And you got other people that's like who we riding

818
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: on today, and it's just a lot of angst and

819
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: shit from other things in their lives. And here's a

820
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: place that provides the illusion of control. Social media provides

821
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: that right. I can block you, I can mute you,

822
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: I can ban these words from my life. I can

823
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: decide that this person is for Soona nine Grida and

824
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: no one gets to like them. I can do these things,

825
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: but it's all an illusion of control because the second

826
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: you hop offline, guess what. Kevin Hart's a number one

827
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: comedy in the world, So none of this shit is

828
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: really true anyway. But yeah, I think it just affected

829
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: him because I think comedians and internet people are the

830
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: perfect storm to get a tornado, because like comedians are

831
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: essentially like very hurt by a very sensitive by people

832
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: like coming at them, and then the internet people are

833
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: the same way. So I think that's why you get

834
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: these fights that go that way. But in general, like

835
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: I said, there was a point in the Kevin Hart

836
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: thing that I think was different than a lot of

837
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: other stuff, but it just didn't matter because he can't

838
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: articulate it.

839
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: You know, maybe Joe Rogan can help him through it.

840
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't listened to that show.

841
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: But he ain't got it in him to be able

842
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: to say, like, guys, there's a line between like not

843
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: liking me and not fucking with me, and I don't

844
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: want this man to make a living. I don't know

845
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: that what I did was he should not be able

846
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: to make a living bad. I do think what I

847
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 2: you know, like, what I did might be you don't

848
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: fuck with me level bad? Why can't people stop at that?

849
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: That's what he's trying to say. You know, what were

850
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: you gonna say?

851
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: Though? Oh?

852
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: And I about to say for me, that's the biggest part.

853
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 6: When you said reconciliation, that's the biggest part because most

854
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: people that are in marginalized groups understand that there has

855
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 6: to be some form of reconciliation on both sides in

856
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 6: order to move forward. But when you have, you know,

857
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 6: people that don't want to reconcile on both sides, that's

858
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 6: how you get this fight. This is a better way

859
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 6: to phrase what I was saying before. When when people

860
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 6: don't want to reconcile and people don't want to see

861
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: I have understanding. Uh, to the other people's side, the

862
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 6: internet is about points, and it's about whatever it takes

863
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 6: not to concede, whatever it takes not to not to

864
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 6: give a quote unquote point or when to the it's ridiculous.

865
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: It becomes teams.

866
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 6: And when you when we get in this team shit

867
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 6: to me, you muddy the water and you wash away

868
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 6: a lot of points because it becomes I'm right, you're wrong,

869
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 6: I'm right, you're wrong. I'm right, you're wrong, And it

870
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 6: doesn't really come about actually trying to talk, actually trying

871
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 6: into a few to other people's perspectives, because just because

872
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 6: you don't agree with somebody don't mean that they're not

873
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 6: that they're completely wrong in their views. Y'all might not

874
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 6: see eye to eye, and there's some things that you go, no, no,

875
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 6: that's just flat wrong, don't get me wrong. But then

876
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 6: there are some things where if you understand how they

877
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 6: came to that conclusion, you can better understand why they

878
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: feel that way. And I think a lot of people

879
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 6: go with this is how I feel. Fuck how you feel.

880
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: And how you feel is just wrong because it's not

881
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: the way I feel.

882
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 5: But I feel the way I feel.

883
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 6: Because of my life experiences and the things that I

884
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 6: went through, and when I reflect on my life, Okay,

885
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 6: I got this grace, this mercy, this understanding.

886
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, I.

887
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Have this lifelong picture to look at to understand how

888
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: I got here.

889
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 6: And I see you, I just see you right now,

890
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: and so I'm only judging you on right now. Fuck

891
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 6: what you've been through, Fuck if you ever evolved, fuck

892
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 6: if you ever changed.

893
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: But yet when you look back on your life, you

894
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: don't few it like that.

895
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 6: And I think that that's a part of the problem too,

896
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: and that's how you can't ever get to the point

897
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 6: of a pure reconciliation.

898
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: And a lot of times on.

899
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 6: Both sides too, something else that people don't want to

900
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: talk about, and I think was a big thing in

901
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 6: the Kevin Hart.

902
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: I think it was pride.

903
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 6: A lot of times pride would prevent the reconciliation because

904
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 6: when it comes to that, you have to acknowledge things,

905
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 6: and pride won't let you acknowledge when you fucked up.

906
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thing. It was the perfect storm

907
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: because he's not the guy that articulate it. He didn't

908
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: even really understand, and.

909
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: He has enough likability that people don't really people understood

910
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: or empathized for him without him being able to articulate

911
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: what happened, correct, And that made the perfect storm for

912
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: us being like months later still talking about this nigga,

913
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: because I understood the people that said, like yo, but

914
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart is not really just like the guy that

915
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: y'all are making them be out to be.

916
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: I understood why they felt that way, but I also.

917
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: Understood people being like, well, it's still fucking dangerous what

918
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: he said, right, you know? And if he's not this guy,

919
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: why can't he just say I'm not this guy anymore?

920
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: And I understood his point of why do I have

921
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: to say it? Like I having my actions shown you

922
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm not this person. I don't I obviously don't do

923
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: this shit anymore, you know. And I think, just like

924
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: with Donald Glover, I think there's a price that people

925
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: want to see paid online in public for all of us.

926
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: And when you decide, as a human being, I'm not

927
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: doing this for you, like I'm gonna like, maybe I've learned,

928
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: maybe I've improved, maybe I've gotten better, but I'm not

929
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: doing this work in public for y'all. There's a backlash

930
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: to it because people feel old and entitled to your work,

931
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: you know.

932
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and and and and now that's the piece

933
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 6: that kills me.

934
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: And that's where I.

935
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: Feel like people strip the humanity out of people because

936
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 6: the celebrities, because most of us, most of everybody listening

937
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 6: to my boys, you've done your changes in evolving fucking

938
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: offline most of us have offline offline, Well, nobody can

939
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: see it. There's no pictures, there's no videos, there's no camera.

940
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 6: There's nobody seeing your chair with the barag. There's nobody

941
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 6: seeing you doing all these great and marvelous things. No,

942
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 6: nobody's seeing that. Nobody is seeing the conversations that you had,

943
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 6: the frustration and anger, the bitterness, you know, the forgiving.

944
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 5: Nobody sees that shit.

945
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: But it's real easy, like you said, to paint these

946
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 6: false illusions of how I've never flawed and how I'm

947
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: always perfect online and make these demands of celebrities because

948
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 6: you can see them. And just because the celebrity you

949
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 6: think think you have the right to every fucking second

950
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 6: of their lives when you would not allow that in

951
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 6: your own personal life.

952
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we have it.

953
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: The temptation to be the perfect avatar that rains down

954
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: judgment on people is too strong in humanity. Like I

955
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: think ultimately that's why social media didn't end up becoming

956
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: about let's track what makes people grow?

957
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: What?

958
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: What does being exposed to different experiences and opinions changing people?

959
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: You know, because many people for centuries now have said

960
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: that the biggest like predictor of can someone grow is

961
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: them interacting with more and different types of lives, walks

962
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: of lives, you know, walks of life, and you know,

963
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: it's harder to be a certain like You're not saying

964
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: this undoes everything, but it's harder to be a certain

965
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: feel a certain type of way about a person that

966
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: you see as a fully fleshed human being that you

967
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: start to experience ups and downs with the things of

968
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: this nature.

969
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: You see what they're.

970
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Challenged by and things of that. It's harder to just

971
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: be like, well, I was told that this type of

972
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: person is blank, you know, and I think we won't

973
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: get that because the temptation we all have it, the

974
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: temptation to be like but you said, blank is just

975
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: too strong man. I know it is in me, you know,

976
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Like even when there's some people I'm like, y'all can

977
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: see the humanity and I can see how they got

978
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: to this point, and I have a heart for them.

979
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: And then there's times where I'm like, but I have

980
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: to weigh that against the world, and like me looking

981
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: at this alt right guy and being like, I see

982
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: how life could have made him feel that the white

983
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: man is the new and dangered species, and all the

984
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: things he's been taught since the day he was born,

985
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 2: and all the things society has reinforced him. I see

986
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: how he can round up in a bigoted place where

987
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: he loves this brotherhood and unity that he is getting

988
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: from his fellow white man via the Internet, and he

989
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: feels empowered by it, and it has made him a

990
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: danger to our society. Now he's promoting dangerous messages and

991
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: I can see that, Yes, I can see it. But

992
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: what's more important me having empathy for him and being like, well,

993
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: I see how he got that way, let's leave him alone,

994
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: or being like, even though this happened, you're wrong and

995
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be that way. Everyone has to make those

996
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: decisions every day on all these other people, in this

997
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: case a homophobic joke, in another case Nipsey Hustles, homophobic

998
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Instagram post, in another case some racist politics, some racist thing.

999
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: A politician once said, we all have to make these

1000
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: judgments all the time.

1001
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and my thing is that, Yeah, I agree that

1002
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 6: I can have humanity for somebody and be like Nigga,

1003
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 6: you wrong, like like yeah, both both of those.

1004
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: Can can take place at once.

1005
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 5: But social media does not.

1006
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: A lot for that for whatever reason, it doesn't.

1007
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: It's hard because right social media is very binary. It's

1008
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: block or unblocked, it's friend or not friend, it's follower unfollowed.

1009
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: It's not a lot of it's just not a lot

1010
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: of great area. Not that it just exists more offline.

1011
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 5: It's just correct.

1012
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: If I would have had the same we have these

1013
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: conversations on the podcast. It's not like we end up

1014
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: getting hundreds of fucking people writing in death threats and

1015
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: fuck y'all. But if I would expressed the same thoughts

1016
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm expressing here on social media, it's a lot harder

1017
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: to get that shit across, depending on the platform, because

1018
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: people don't people like a very black and white world,

1019
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: you know.

1020
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, no only that also back to uh, I know

1021
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 6: we need to move on.

1022
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 5: But back to what you said before.

1023
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 6: Some people like to be contrariant, like they just like

1024
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 6: to just whatever you say, they're gonna find you talked

1025
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 6: about this just something, sit up it and it don't

1026
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 6: make you smart.

1027
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: And like you said, a lot of people like to

1028
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: do that.

1029
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 6: But you go, well, nigga, you're still not You're not

1030
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 6: smart just because you can point out the something.

1031
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other day, I had posted a picture that

1032
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 2: was a uh, you know, after me and Karen eat,

1033
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: we're waiters, former waiters. We stack our plates so that

1034
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: it's easier to clean the table. We just kind of

1035
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: bust the table by habit. At this point, it's hard.

1036
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: To turn off, it really is.

1037
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: And so I took a picture of it because it

1038
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: was like a neat stack, and I was laughing, and

1039
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: I took a picture put online. I was like, can

1040
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: y'all tell me and my wife used to be waiters

1041
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: because of how we stack this shit all the time.

1042
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: And a whole lot of people was like, yes, it's

1043
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: a waiter. I know the exact experience. I've done that too.

1044
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: People like, oh, as a waiter, I love when people

1045
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: do this because it makes it easy to clean the table.

1046
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: Just you know what I'm saying.

1047
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Like dozens of comments like that, but the one that

1048
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: got through the meal, of course, is the person that's like, well,

1049
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: I heard.

1050
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: That you shouldn't do that because waiters hate it.

1051
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: And there's like Reddit threads and stuff like that the

1052
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: waiters say they hate when people do this or whatever,

1053
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, as with everything on

1054
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: the Internet that goes a little bit viral. Officially, somebody

1055
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: is gonna say, why it's fucked up? It doesn't matter

1056
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: what it is.

1057
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: Don't matter.

1058
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, my experience as a waiter.

1059
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I loved when people did this me too, my experience.

1060
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 3: As a waiter. I've never met another waiter who did

1061
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: not like this.

1062
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: A lot of them be surprised, not once, like I

1063
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: obviously haven't done that job for years. I've talked to

1064
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: and been around dozens of waiters. Not once in my

1065
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: life have I ever met one. When we've stacked out

1066
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: to plates many times a way to it'll be like,

1067
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: thank you, Right, that's my life experience. It's a one

1068
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: hundred percent positive thing for my life. This is not

1069
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: to say nobody may have felt maybe they felt a

1070
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: certain different way inside their heart and they never told me,

1071
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: and then they went on a Reddit thread and.

1072
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: Voted it right. Maybe that's what happened. But my point being,

1073
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: that's my life experience.

1074
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: But yet I knew, no matter how many people agreed

1075
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: and said, yes, this is dope, there was gonna be

1076
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: somebody to be like, but.

1077
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: It's not dope. It's actually the worst.

1078
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: And so I replied to them like, yo, you know

1079
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: what I feel you. I knew somebody would not like

1080
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: it eventually because it's kind of Twitter. That's just what happens.

1081
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, my experience has been mostly positive.

1082
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: But I mean somewhere that's a ready thread about orgasms

1083
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: and how terrible they are. Come on, I guarantee it

1084
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: because it's always somebody out there. That's what the Internet

1085
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: has introduced us to us, somebody out there with the

1086
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: other side of everything.

1087
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: You know, that contrianism as you brought up.

1088
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: And later somebody even agreed with the person like yeah,

1089
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: it is bad.

1090
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: Don't stack your place.

1091
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, cool, not gonna reply, just

1092
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: gotta let it fly sometimes. But yes, that is a

1093
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: rule of the Internet, that contrarian shit. And so yeah,

1094
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: there is.

1095
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1096
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: I saw a thread where it was about children laying

1097
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: on their fathers, like and people taking pictures of like

1098
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: like these moments, Like it was hilarious. So many black

1099
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: fathers of their kids laying on It's like, you're gonna

1100
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: miss these moments when you're get older and shit and.

1101
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.

1102
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: And I saw someone it was like I went to

1103
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: each of their pages and found misogynistic or homophobic remarks on.

1104
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: Their Facebook pages or Twitter pages.

1105
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, Yo, you worked hard, but you

1106
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: went you you you found a way to make it

1107
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: not cute, not whatever, Like you put in the work.

1108
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because you kind of had

1109
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: to work for that misery. But you, but but you

1110
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: it was. But behind the veneer of all this shit

1111
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: is not cute, like any any of it all, even

1112
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: the things that people think are positive, behind the veneer,

1113
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: if you look closely enough at anything with humanity, you'll

1114
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: find the fucking marks of like this is actually kind

1115
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: of fucked up. Well, this is actually not the perfect

1116
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: thing that you guys think it is. It's not the

1117
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: cute pet videos or whatever the fuck, right, It's always

1118
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: something and.

1119
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: That's kind of the Internet. It's always something out.

1120
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 6: There, okay, okay, And now now that part I have

1121
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 6: to agree with you is is always something out there.

1122
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 6: And it's one of those things where you basically tried

1123
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: to make a beautiful moment about you because like you said,

1124
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 6: you put in work. The average person ain't gonna put

1125
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 6: in that much work, right, took dig and to find,

1126
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 6: which means you took the extra effort.

1127
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: Most of us didn't give a fuck.

1128
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but my point being like they're not wrong,

1129
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: that they're not wrong, that those guys probably harbor those things,

1130
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, they are probably since that men that

1131
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: have some issues blah blah blah. It's just that you

1132
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: knew you could find that because and then you have

1133
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: to report back to everybody on like, look look what

1134
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: I found out, and it's like you didn't really, It's

1135
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: like you worked hard to get that.

1136
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Misery, you know what I mean.

1137
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: And that's not to knock them, because maybe they couldn't

1138
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: help themselves or maybe they just you know, it's the

1139
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: kind of thing where, for example, like when women are

1140
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: posting like pictures of their bris or whatever like big

1141
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: teded gang blah blah blah, whatever it is, and people

1142
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: mostly just retweet like all shit people, It is out hilarious, right,

1143
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: But you could go to each one of that pages

1144
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: and look for some shit you disagree with and be like, oh,

1145
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: so y'all talking about big TV game, But what about

1146
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: when they were saying blank about Hillary Clinton or or something,

1147
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, whoever the fuck y'all on, you know, like

1148
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: pick the thing, pick the thing, and you will find

1149
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: something and be like this moment is ruined now, or y'all,

1150
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: I guess that's cute to y'all or whatever.

1151
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: It's like, Yo, you had to work to find that misery.

1152
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: You couldn't let it be.

1153
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: And that's kind of the thing, like, you know, people

1154
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: gonna work to find that misery. And that was also

1155
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: the thing that Kevin Hart could never articulate.

1156
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 6: Agreed, And I think that for me, I'm built differently. Yes,

1157
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 6: there are some things that you know, depend on how

1158
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: important it is to me, I will dig and fine.

1159
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: But on the.

1160
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 6: Average, I don't know if it's good, a bad, or

1161
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: some shit that I just don't give a fuck about.

1162
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: Nah, I'll reject with you. You're not built differently. The

1163
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: vast majority of people are like you, The vast that

1164
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: majority of people, the most people are not looking for

1165
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: that kind of shit.

1166
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: No, Like that's the outlier. It's just that.

1167
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like I said, I'm not saying that wrong.

1168
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 2: I want this to be important to be heard. They're

1169
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: not wrong, like they can be disgusted by these niggas

1170
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's easy to find because people put their

1171
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: whole lives on the internet, and then it's it's always

1172
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: that moment of like, let's go back and make them

1173
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: be stuck there. This is this person, this is what

1174
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: they believe, you know, this is this that is a

1175
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: reality too.

1176
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: They're gonna teach their kids that shit.

1177
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: Those same adorable little children in on the chest are

1178
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: probably gonna grow up to be fucked up because of

1179
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: their fathers being fucked up, you know. So it's not

1180
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: like some shit that don't matter or or whatever, but

1181
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: it's just within the hospice, this cute moment, they're still

1182
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: a veneer. There's still something behind it. And that's always

1183
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: with everything, with everyone. With Kevin Hart's cute comedy, surface

1184
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: level comedy, there's always something behind it where you're like this,

1185
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: dude's fucked up.

1186
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, put like this.

1187
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: I I agree, but like this because most people go through.

1188
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: Their lives and life life just life.

1189
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 5: Itself is fucked up.

1190
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 6: It will beat you down, It will beat everything out

1191
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 6: of you, like life is just something else and it

1192
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 6: goes Okay, this is a cute moment. I'm more apt

1193
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 6: to enjoy the cute moment. Yes day, ill things it

1194
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 6: could come along. They can destroy the cute moments.

1195
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: Don't get me.

1196
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 6: Wrong, but I am not built to go the extra

1197
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: mount to find the fucked up shit.

1198
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm just not built like that something are, But I

1199
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: know I'm not.

1200
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 6: But also when I said I don't care, I'm going,

1201
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna enjoy this moment. I always know that most

1202
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 6: things in life are an illusion.

1203
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: If you dig deeper, you're gonna find the dirt, you know.

1204
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 6: So, yes, I do care, you know, quote unquote, I

1205
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: do care that these children.

1206
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: You know it's gonna be fucked up. These you know, like,

1207
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: I do care.

1208
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong, but I'm gonna oh, cute picture, click,

1209
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 6: and I'll keep rolling.

1210
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the vast majority of the people. The vast majority.

1211
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: That's why it goes viral. Most people ain't.

1212
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: Got the time or the inclination will be like, let

1213
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: me go find how this is fucked up. But everything

1214
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: is fucked up if you look hard enough, Yes, it

1215
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: is everything anyway, Even he says that was such a

1216
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: long tangent. He says, Megan McCain is the culmination of

1217
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: every white woman who has called the cops on black

1218
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: people for existing and then playing the victim of and

1219
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: lining about what happened when the video goes viral.

1220
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: Fuck her. I hope she falls down the escalator. Lakita says,

1221
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 3: I have no real comment, but I think that it's interesting.

1222
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 5: How what No, I have no real comment.

1223
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: I was laughing at that statement.

1224
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: I have no real comment, but I think that it's

1225
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: interesting how McCain and Sarah Sanders suffer the insults to

1226
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: their fathers though McCain less so, Megan less so, all

1227
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: in the name of doing the bidding of other rich

1228
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: white folks and the promise of money. Kind of like

1229
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: black Republican shit is wold man, that's the literal fifty

1230
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: three percent. Those motherfuckers are Republican despite everything. Well, Megan

1231
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: McCain be fired from the view. Yes, she's bad for

1232
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: the show. No, this is what they wanted from her, Karen.

1233
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: No, no has it.

1234
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: Eighty eight percent twelve percent of y'all think she's gonna

1235
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: get fired because she's bad for the show. La La

1236
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: Jen says while watching while watching the Captain Marvel movie,

1237
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: my sister and I was like, this is a beautiful lustory.

1238
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: I mean they had all her stuff, her old jacket,

1239
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: her childhood photos, her birth certificate, a lock of her

1240
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: hair lol jokes, But seriously, we both walked away thinking

1241
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: they were an item and it was okay. Marvel should

1242
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 2: just go ahead and make it official. PS love you guys,

1243
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: literally bright my days. Thanks Lola, Jen.

1244
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1245
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: And Ma says this is exactly what they want for her.

1246
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: For Megan McCain, this is the first time she's been

1247
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 2: out of pocket on the show. Mike says, I voted

1248
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: yes because I believe Megan is going to keep ratching

1249
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: it up, her bullshit and pass regressive this to a

1250
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: coworkers eventually is gonna come too much to become too

1251
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: much to handle, and that's when they'll fire her. And

1252
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: that's when she's going to cash out because she'll be

1253
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: known and this person who says things that libtards can't handle. Yep,

1254
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: I can see that, and libtard isn't quotes.

1255
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: Bean says.

1256
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: As much as I want to believe she will be fired,

1257
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: I doubt it, just because her nonsense brings in the

1258
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: ratings if it gets talked about, and in this day

1259
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: and age, her spats with everyone's almost certainly going viral

1260
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: and trending on Twitter and entertainment.

1261
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: That's almost exactly what you want, and.

1262
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: America loves to assuage the feelings of white America, especially

1263
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: when they're the blond hair variety, like Megan Lakida says,

1264
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: my hope is that Joy.

1265
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: Kills her first.

1266
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: I got five dollars on the defense lawyer. Jeordie did

1267
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: look like she was doing the calculation zone, like how

1268
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: much is this motherfucking job?

1269
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: And I think she remembered what she was saying, but

1270
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: she was like, if I open.

1271
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: Up my mouth, it won't be pretty, So no, I forgot.

1272
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think she was just pissed, like, I rude,

1273
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 2: what's the fucking point of me trying to talk right now?

1274
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: Y'all let this bitch on the same platform as me,

1275
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: and I fucking know what I'm talking about and have

1276
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: done the research and making sense, and y'all just let

1277
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: her get do here and pout and throw a tantrument

1278
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: cry after everybody disagrees with her, and y'all pay, you know,

1279
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: like y'all pay me to be here at the same

1280
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: time that y'all pay her to be here, Like what

1281
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: the fuck is my life? That's what all that was

1282
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: on her face in that three seconds.

1283
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: Yes it was, and in her mind. She's like, this

1284
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: is fucking disrespectful.

1285
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 6: And that's why a lot of because they've had a

1286
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 6: rotation of host over years, and anybody that comes home

1287
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 6: that's really really, really super super smart, I'm like, oh baby,

1288
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 6: you're not gonna laugh, you're making sense. You're not gonna

1289
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 6: last long. You're not gonna last long because you're gonna

1290
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 6: fall out with everybody.

1291
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

1292
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: Last week we had episode eighteen seventy eight, Welcome to

1293
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: the Supercuts. Logan two times one said two x one says,

1294
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to try really hard not to go overboard

1295
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: my Game of Throng theories, but I can't make any promises.

1296
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm sodemn excited. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm.

1297
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Gonna skip over your Game of throw theories because I

1298
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: don't like spoilers, and if you're right, it's gonna feel

1299
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: like you spoiled it. And we like to come up

1300
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: with our own theories here without going too far into

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: the right.

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01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna skip it. I'm sorry.

1303
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop there and bombard my husband with my

1304
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: thoughts about leap measles vaccine. I'm not an anti vaxxer.

1305
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous not the vaccinate your kids. I

1306
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: totally understand having misgivings about new vaccines like chicken pox vaccine,

1307
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: but I'm grateful that I have a pediatrician who was

1308
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: okay with me holding off on on it until I

1309
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: did more research on it.

1310
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: For myself, I'm a support of the alternative.

1311
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: Immunization schedule that spread shots out among a wide range

1312
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: of time for kids. That being said, I don't think

1313
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: parents who vaccinate their children but on the alternative schedule

1314
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: should be penalized. Apparently the new law doesn't make those stipulations,

1315
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: which I think it should.

1316
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Speaker 3: Great a great episode. I love y'all, Thank.

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Speaker 6: You, and there's nothing wrong with an alternate schedule. Are

1318
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 6: you getting a vaccinated?

1319
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I care about. Yeah.

1320
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: I'mso like, it's kind of weird because research is such

1321
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: a loaded term these days, So you're like, I want

1322
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: to research this vaccine. I mean, are you a sign

1323
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: just like what kind of research you're gonna do, because

1324
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: hopefully you're doing sane research that is, like let me

1325
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: go find out what peer reviewed or like scientists think

1326
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: about this and doctors and not like let me go

1327
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: to Jenny McCarthy's site and see what she think about it,

1328
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: because some people apparently think both of those are the

1329
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: same way and be like, that's why I don't vaccinate

1330
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: my kids. Jenny McCarthy said, no, So as long as

1331
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: you doing like actual, you know, obviously you listen to us,

1332
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: you probably are doing rational shit. But I worry about

1333
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: that if I'm a doctor, because as soon as you

1334
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: say I'm gonna do my own research, I'm like, web MD,

1335
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: don't got this.

1336
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 6: Dog right, everything is cancered. Get these shots, Like, I'm

1337
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 6: gonna need y'all to stop that because you're like, I

1338
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 6: went to school for this.

1339
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm gonna need y'all to be a little

1340
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: more considerate. Dia says, ak A girl has some name.

1341
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: Dia says, I'm not going to give any of my

1342
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: gaming throw theories because I know you don't like to

1343
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: read those because that's when.

1344
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: It spoilers out there.

1345
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, thank you, No offense anybody, but you write

1346
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: in with some theories and some spoilers. I'm not listening.

1347
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: WHI la la la la, hands in my ears, fingers

1348
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: in my ears. Actually, I haven't seen many spoilers leading

1349
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: up to this season like I have previous seasons, especially

1350
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: season seven. But then again, when I'm on line, just

1351
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: seeing the word game makes me chick close the screen.

1352
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: So imagine all the march man it is supposed to

1353
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: I miss right.

1354
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, too, man, with these like bootlegs.

1355
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: And leaks and shit.

1356
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers used to write into our show, and it's like, Nigga,

1357
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: you just watched the the next week, like, no, I

1358
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: don't want to hear your theory on what you know,

1359
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with the flight any rate I was

1360
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: going to And then the Scripts League and they had

1361
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: to do all this stuff.

1362
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: They like fake people out. It's too much. This is

1363
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: the one show. It's like people can't wait to ruin

1364
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: it because.

1365
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: It's like for what, you're gonna win a prize because

1366
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: you think you smarter because you figured out how to

1367
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: leak this shit.

1368
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: It's like that's we're all watching it together. That's the

1369
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: fun of it.

1370
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: We don't know, you know, at any like, even when

1371
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: we did our odds on the thing, you know, talking

1372
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: about multiple things that they're like odds for, we're not

1373
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: saying like it's definitely gonna happen or not happen, just

1374
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: just how we feel, you know, try to have fun

1375
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: with it, as opposed to being.

1376
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: Like, listen, the ice King gonna do this, you know

1377
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: what I mean?

1378
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: At any at any rate, I was going to say

1379
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: that I have enjoyed the series so much that I'm

1380
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: considering reading the books once it concludes. It is one

1381
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: of the few series where all of the actors and

1382
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: the actresses bring it. I have yet to find a

1383
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: bad actor in the mix. I know folks online didn't

1384
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: like Ed Sharon's cameo, but if they didn't know who

1385
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: he was, no one.

1386
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: Would have said a thing.

1387
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 2: I think that was more folks hating than actually upset

1388
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: about the Integrity series. Agreed, Agreed, I would not be

1389
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 2: disappointed to see any characters end up on the throne

1390
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: that I deserve it. In my opinion, Cercely is relentless

1391
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: hunting and has grown moret strategic over the years. John

1392
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: is an example of a fighter who people have written

1393
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: off since his birth. I can relate to him because

1394
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: my parents were not married and growing up people through

1395
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: the word bastard my way. So I have a special

1396
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: place in my heart for someone who overcomes that that

1397
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: type of adversity.

1398
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: Finally the Narra.

1399
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: She has a heart of the people, and I've watched

1400
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: her grow from someone who just wanted to throw because

1401
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: it was her birthright to someone who genuinely cares for

1402
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: people with no voice and wants to serve.

1403
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: The people Evie.

1404
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: He says, I don't know who will take the throne

1405
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: by the end of the season, but I would love

1406
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: to see Samuel Tarley take the throne because I love

1407
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: to see Gilly as a queen, rubbing her silk gown,

1408
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: saying ooh, this is nice, come on, get in. I

1409
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: also think Uron will portray Circey and try to throw

1410
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: find somewhere to overthrow to get the thrown himself.

1411
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, my pet, he's gonna do some fucked

1412
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: up she gonnack him up.

1413
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: It's not even about him like trying trying to betray her.

1414
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: He's overtly saying, I'm I want the throne, So to him,

1415
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not really you know what I'm saying, Like,

1416
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: it's not like it's a secret, like he really in

1417
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: love with circes He is, like I am in love

1418
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: with whoever the fuck is closest to this goddamn Throne agreed, like,

1419
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: if it was Jamie, he probably be up there, like,

1420
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: I'll fuck Jamie whatever it takes, whatever it takes.

1421
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: What do you see my dick. He's a sneaky motherfucker

1422
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: bearing that in min.

1423
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing the white Walkers winning because that

1424
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: would be an inspected twist. Candas Owns finally got the

1425
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: attention she craved when black women I can services requirement

1426
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: they have quit bad quick wheels, hairstyles or dry ass

1427
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: wigs because Dominic Silk had been wearing those same musty

1428
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: wigs since they came on the scene. And Candas hair

1429
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: looked like she went to a white salon and they

1430
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: fucked her hair up on purpose.

1431
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: Black girl tragic uh And the poll was worst split

1432
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: ends ha ha, Candas Owens or Elizabeth Holmes.

1433
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 6: Elizabeth Holmes Cuz, honey, it looked like she stuck up

1434
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 6: here in the socket and that shit was like.

1435
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 5: I will not correct myself.

1436
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: I will always be static it.

1437
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: So Karen's gonna go with Elizabeth Holmes. Okay, let me

1438
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: check the pole results. Seventy six percent of the audience

1439
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: disagrees with Karen and say Candas Owns has worst flit

1440
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: ins twenty five percent say Elizabeth Holmes. We got two

1441
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: comments and mine says, well, I think both of them

1442
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: have equally bad split ins. I wanted to say Elizabeth Holmes,

1443
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: but after watching the documentary about her on Netflix, I

1444
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: figured her split ins. I probably do the paranoia and

1445
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: not trusting the hairdresser because they because they get you talking.

1446
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: But Candace, they keet you talking. But Candyce, she did

1447
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: this to herself. It makes it worse. She probably can't

1448
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: find anyone to do her hair, so she's at home

1449
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: with just for me purrn box or still use a

1450
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: hot comb on the stove. You brought this on yourself,

1451
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: Sis Lakeda's the bounce grease in the house. Lakita says,

1452
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: I voted for Candace Owens because fuck her.

1453
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 5: Tell us how you're ready feel.

1454
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, that's a valid reason to vote for her.

1455
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: The first time anyone's ever voted for Candace owns. That

1456
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: wasn't out of racism. We did get so listener emails.

1457
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: Although why was this moving slow?

1458
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: I thought, I give me one second to check him out.

1459
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll do this on my phone.

1460
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm where I just moved the email in this box

1461
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: and now it's not showing up.

1462
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 5: Mm hm hm.

1463
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: Oh, sorry, do this live on the air, guys, podcast emails.

1464
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: Huh did I move it to the wrong thing? Shit?

1465
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: Did we lose something?

1466
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 5: All right, well, it's.

1467
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: Not showing up on one of the emails, is not

1468
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: showing up, and I swear I just fucking moved it.

1469
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 2: Give me one second, guys, matter of fact, let me

1470
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: pause this so I have to do this live.

1471
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: Al right, I solved it somewhat. Let's go. Jeff Ri

1472
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: saying feedback, all right, coon, let's uh, let's see what

1473
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: he has to say.

1474
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: I just wanted to chime in, Hey, Riding, I just

1475
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: want to chime in as a queer man. You're talking about.

1476
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 3: An LGBTQ character in the MCU.

1477
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: You talked about how Sis had men complained about the

1478
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: dancing beauty and the beast, saying they read into a

1479
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: possible gain, read into the possible gainess of these characters.

1480
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: You made the point that they only danced and it

1481
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 3: didn't fuck. From a queer perspective, this is the first

1482
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 3: era in history of film where gay characters can exist

1483
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: and not be killed for being gay.

1484
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: Before this era, US queers red into everything and the

1485
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: host of seeing queerness. We looked for a color of

1486
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: hat or look of a million hidden singles that queer signals,

1487
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: signals that here queer people in Hollywood snuck past the sensors.

1488
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: It struck me that you said about Sis had Man,

1489
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: because that's exactly how we always watched TV and movies.

1490
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1491
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: I know, as a black dude, there's a bunch of

1492
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: shit that black people, at least when I was a kid. Uh,

1493
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: we decided it was black regardless if it was black.

1494
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if the white people thought they

1495
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: was black, thought it was black, but we the people watching,

1496
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: decided that shit was black.

1497
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: Some quick examples.

1498
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: Lex Luthor and the Justice League and Superman cartoon series.

1499
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: He was black, black Death, stro Black, Jazz Transformer black.

1500
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 3: Like it was just certain shit.

1501
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: We just decided to pick over Piccolo black like white

1502
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: people just like that's an ailien to us, that's a.

1503
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 3: Nigga y ursula. Yeah, the other one black.

1504
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that for LGBTQ people's same fucking thing.

1505
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: It's like like I didn't know because you know, I

1506
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: was my had odds. But people apparently this week been

1507
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: saying that Scar was gay in the Lion King and

1508
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: now it's just a trailer.

1509
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 3: And okay, you guys know social media and these motherfucking.

1510
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: Trailers, they will write a whole discage off of less

1511
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: than two minutes, right three seconds of a two minute trailer.

1512
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: They're like, this is unacceptable. But we haven't seen the

1513
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: movie yet. But Scar people thought he was gay. I

1514
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: had no idea that people knew not this neither, and

1515
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: I saw people upset and that the new Lion King

1516
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: had somehow made him less gay.

1517
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what the.

1518
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: Rules out of that, but they had decided that this fictional, animated,

1519
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: now live action lion was somehow less gay than the

1520
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: original line.

1521
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1522
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was one of those times where

1523
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: you just kind of like, we are we're too grown

1524
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: to be doing.

1525
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: This right now.

1526
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, we'll see, we'll see all

1527
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: we'll see in the movies and what people right after that.

1528
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: I'd very highly recommend watching the documentary The Cell Youlloid Closet,

1529
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: which is about the history of LGBTQ people in film.

1530
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: It's based on the work of gay icon Vito Russo,

1531
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: whose life is captured in the film Veto If you

1532
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: want to check that out too. Anyways, thanks for the

1533
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: hours of entertainment. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate the feedback.

1534
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what else we got. But yeah, like I said,

1535
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: I didn't understand the full context of the scar thing,

1536
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: which is why I am letting everybody cook ay.

1537
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 6: Me too, because like I said, people, it was a

1538
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 6: cartoon and then make it a live action. You know,

1539
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 6: I think that the quote unquote the same genre but

1540
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 6: the different genre. So you know, I don't know exactly,

1541
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 6: you know, the wonder one correlation of how they can

1542
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,959
Speaker 6: can mimic one to the other platform.

1543
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: It's possible, but we would like to say we will see.

1544
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: We haven't seen the movie yet. Yeah, it's just that thing.

1545
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: Also, it just don't got to have an opinion on everything.

1546
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: And that was one of them times I'm like, I'm

1547
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: out of my depth here because.

1548
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 6: Me, I will stay at the deep end of the

1549
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 6: poolsh I going back over here with the kids.

1550
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all shook me.

1551
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: As soon as y'all was like, yeah he used to

1552
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: be gay, I was like, for real, damn.

1553
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 5: I just thought he was a mean ass uncle.

1554
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: I don't be paying no attention. I watched the line

1555
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: King gazillion times. I didn't know. I didn't know what

1556
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 3: was up, so I missed the point. Keep the Change podcast.

1557
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: As a listener email Gaming Thrones Rap, Hey, Rod and Karen,

1558
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm Kenjy from AKAKT. I wanted the holt to Keep

1559
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: the Change podcast. I love showing as a fellow podcaster.

1560
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: That's fairly new. We've been doing a little over year.

1561
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: I definitely respect to appreciate that y'all have been grinding

1562
01:12:59,000 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: for this long.

1563
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 3: Keep up great work.

1564
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: With it being Game of Thrones season, myself and my

1565
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: co host Lori aka l Book came up with a

1566
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones rap.

1567
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: We love you or listen to and review it on

1568
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: the show. Oh man, I do not like listening to

1569
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 3: and review music.

1570
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 5: On the show. If not, we're not music critics.

1571
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: If not on the show, even you can give us

1572
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: your opinions on the side that Vy Dough. I know

1573
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: you are are huge Game of Thrones fans, so you

1574
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: should enjoy, appreciate you'all piece KTU. If you guys do

1575
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: like it, check out Keep the Change Podcast, availaball, SoundCloud,

1576
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: Apple podcast, Google Podcasts, new episodes every Wednesday. All right, man, listen,

1577
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: I normally do not do this. I will play it

1578
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: because the Game of Thrones related, but I'm not I'm not.

1579
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 2: This my first time here, and I'm not making any promises. Okay,

1580
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: I hope it's dope. If it's not dope, I won't

1581
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: say anything mean about you.

1582
01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: But I'll just I'll just I'll just keep keeping very polite. Okay.

1583
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we heard you heard.

1584
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: Eric Abadu about artists. Yeah, I don't want nobody. This

1585
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: is every time. This is a hard ride there.

1586
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm looking at you like, don't even do it, baby,

1587
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 6: We'll just email you on the side.

1588
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: It's not worth it because I.

1589
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 6: Don't know what I'm listening to and I can't promise

1590
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 6: you my response is gonna be the best of the greatest.

1591
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know what you're gonna get. Baby, I'm

1592
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: just gonna keep it reading. I just feel like we

1593
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1594
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: The wrap part of me will take over and I'll

1595
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: be like, well, first of all, you need to level

1596
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: out the base.

1597
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: Whoever did the mix it, because maybe you don't put

1598
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: effort in work and all that stuff into this. And mmm,

1599
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: well I feel like the audience wants to hear it.

1600
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 5: I don't.

1601
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's horrible, then people just gonna laugh

1602
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: at it. If it's great, we'll all be happy. So

1603
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: what's the worst thing that could happen?

1604
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: I guess you can help hey once again, this son,

1605
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 3: this puppy go down on the season.

1606
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 7: Them White Foker's here and we just want to know

1607
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 7: who body get crammed hope, and they certainly Bennjo's the bitch.

1608
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 7: She fucked her brother. They made a little dead bok

1609
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 7: the same niggas. She didn't even flinch. We're tterry and

1610
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 7: that man not need a little sin king in the

1611
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 7: north Yet John snow running killed this day and took

1612
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 7: the sisters here and they've done it. Send them to

1613
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 7: the nice watch but he ain't running. Got niggas hupor nothing?

1614
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 7: Win the ball like tomming start up going about them

1615
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 7: that's here. That's like every an see they want to

1616
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 7: beg speak for Larry and when it's that's a sick

1617
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 7: don't make her bring them draggons out around here.

1618
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 3: Woo fire coming out.

1619
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 7: They fucking ears shoe White Funk has got on somewhe

1620
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 7: draggon be the boo yet y'all, God wonder them. But

1621
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 7: we got too both be the red plains niggas who

1622
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 7: woof to Carvis, that's what these motherfucking bosses yo West,

1623
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 7: So suddenly don't know where your boss is. Mock me

1624
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 7: Calisi's the nasty picky. Either way, that girl is motherfucking flawless.

1625
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 7: Came of those niggas. This ship here is lawless. You

1626
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 7: and your famth get your whispered regardless. Shout out to

1627
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 7: r And she might be the hardest the girls. No

1628
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 7: one but the many bits goddess. She gotta listen. She

1629
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 7: checking this twice because I was up punk since she

1630
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 7: quit playing nice. It's outside and please say you're twice

1631
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 7: like what Ben listened for. We gotta sit slice hold

1632
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 7: your respect to them niggas.

1633
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 3: That's dead special.

1634
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 7: Shout out to the og star now never ever want

1635
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 7: the running that's read, because that's believe that should me

1636
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 7: off with your head.

1637
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: Hold up, hold up, hold on.

1638
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 7: Herb with me saying hold the door, nigga siper free

1639
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 7: ain't dead. Shout out to a brain got three eyes

1640
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 7: in this saying, but he can't see the spect when

1641
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 7: the lady you're red waiter with a wildlist. You look

1642
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 7: what they style list fucking with them doings. It's gonna

1643
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 7: be some fire list.

1644
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 3: Kiss it that Quan say goodbye to your.

1645
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 7: Life Fish, you know the Mountain, Chris Scholl through your

1646
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 7: eye list, it's what's the pro song scoop of west

1647
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 7: Side Fish that the wildfire boy.

1648
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: You know what time it is?

1649
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 7: Then let me put this dragon glass summer right here.

1650
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 7: Give me that go to Crown like Kyle Tracom did.

1651
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know what these niggas better do.

1652
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 7: They need help up? Everybody better keep their truth. We

1653
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 7: need to start togevery is a great joys too, even

1654
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 7: need a the fucking Leonardster fools and season eight it's

1655
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 7: the end of Geo. T want to see these white

1656
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 7: walking start slow. Let joab free send him out of

1657
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 7: hell man with longer certain c and tell her that

1658
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 7: I wanted to know it was me.

1659
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 3: Hey, yay, I'm a it's what that was? All all right?

1660
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 3: You know what? That was cute? You know that was

1661
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 3: real cute. It was y'all. Y'all did a good thing.

1662
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 3: That was dope, not bullshit. I like that.

1663
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, bush, Yeah.

1664
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: I always thought like that.

1665
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 2: The drums in that beat was I always thought that

1666
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: the drums and the thing song was dope and that

1667
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: somebody was gonna wrap over it eventually.

1668
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, that was dope. Man. I won't lie.

1669
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: I think the ad libs, y'all could have took them out,

1670
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't think you need

1671
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: the ad libs a little too much, you know what

1672
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. The like this this part right here, it's

1673
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: it's quiet.

1674
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 5: Listen, find them dobles and let me live, yo.

1675
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: But I'm out, and this is keep the changed podcast, baby.

1676
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think you could have left the ad

1677
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: libs part out because I felt like the verse really

1678
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: spoke for itself, like that ship was flyer. And so

1679
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 2: even if you if you do that same thing without

1680
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: the ad list, I think it hits a little harder

1681
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: because it's not even like, yeah, we're about to do this,

1682
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: it's just like boom, I'm doing it, and then like

1683
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: two minutes and you like this niggas still going, you know,

1684
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: and then it just ends.

1685
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: So that's the only thing.

1686
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, baby, I can truly say I'm happy with this

1687
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 6: because when it comes to rapping, baby, everybody came rap.

1688
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 5: So I was like, I don't know what we're getting

1689
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 5: to listen to.

1690
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: So that's why I was about to put the beato

1691
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 3: on it, because I was like, I don't know, listen.

1692
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: It's so many times that.

1693
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: We had the best of intentions and I know I

1694
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: can set something up here, and we had to be like,

1695
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: oh baby, what is you doing?

1696
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 3: And I just want to avoid that, you know.

1697
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: And more importantly, I just don't want our show to

1698
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: turn into now somebody else heard us review this, and

1699
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 2: now they're gonna send in some more music next.

1700
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,440
Speaker 3: Week and we'll getting all types of game of thrown mistakes.

1701
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: We're not a music podcast. We're not a music review,

1702
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: not music critics. I know there's a lot of podcasts

1703
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: that do that stuff, and I think, you know, they're

1704
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: dope with.

1705
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 5: It and got more knowledge than I will ever have.

1706
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't want people being like, I'm gonna

1707
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: see you twenty seven track just listen to all these

1708
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: and now like.

1709
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 3: I got homework. Come on, man, I'm not an A

1710
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 3: and R.

1711
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 5: Come on.

1712
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: But anyway, that was cute.

1713
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: That was dope, And I mean, if your podcast is

1714
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: any reflection of that, then it's gotta be a dope show.

1715
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: Correct just says Hey, Roder, Karen, sorry for the lateness.

1716
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: Is for the Walking Dead, but it just donald me.

1717
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: Maybe the voice on the radio is our crew from

1718
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: Fear to Walking Dead. I haven't seen y'all. I haven't

1719
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: seen y'all talk about crossover.

1720
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: But that would be cool. Oh, I haven't seen talk

1721
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: about crossover. That will be cool.

1722
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, ironically they have said that I think they are

1723
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: trying to do some crossover type stuff with Dwight.

1724
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 3: So that he may be on Fear to Walking Dead.

1725
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, so because he just really just walked off

1726
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 5: into the sunset.

1727
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah so possibly so all right, And lastly, that'll be

1728
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,440
Speaker 3: interesting because.

1729
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 6: What's you mccalloughy was there with Dwight and all the

1730
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 6: bullshit that went down with that, So that's gonna be interesting.

1731
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: Uh now, yep, yep, that's a great point.

1732
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: Last email remembering Nipsey is from Erica, who says, Hey,

1733
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, I meant to sit in this last week.

1734
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: I just had to say that I appreciate your words

1735
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 3: on Nipsey.

1736
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: I was a tremendous fan and before I found shows

1737
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: like yours, his music was what got me through to day,

1738
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: particularly the workday.

1739
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 3: I felt like his music was keeping me alive in

1740
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen.

1741
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: I literally listened to him every day during the year,

1742
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: tremendous loneliness and uncertainly in my future. But I had

1743
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 2: to fall back on him after those homophobic comments. I

1744
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: thought that he was better and smarter than that, and

1745
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: was hugely disappointed. Nevertheless, I started listening to him again

1746
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, and I've been gutted

1747
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: by his passing. Thank you for the compassion that you'll

1748
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: shown him and his fans. The way that people have

1749
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: been talking about him remember him has been making it easier,

1750
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,520
Speaker 2: and it seems.

1751
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 3: Like he will largely be remembered for his higher intentions. Yeah,

1752
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: I saw that man, and that's the.

1753
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: Nuance too, I think, because like with his funeral and stuff,

1754
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: a lot of positivity was spread. A lot of people

1755
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: were speaking at it. I don't watch funerals for entertainment.

1756
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: It's literally just not my thing.

1757
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't and I'm not knocking people who do. I

1758
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 3: just can't do it.

1759
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: Like I see people tweeting about it. I turned off

1760
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 2: Twitter and went outside and did things. But it was

1761
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 2: cool to see, like of the little bit I got

1762
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 2: to see on Twitter people talking it was mostly a

1763
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: positive experience. I even saw a few people retract their

1764
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: statements because when he died, people were doing shit like

1765
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: the typical playbook when somebody that has done something fucked

1766
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: up dies, no matter what else they've done in their life,

1767
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: there's always people that, like I said, they want to

1768
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: drag you to that lot, to your worst moment. And

1769
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 2: so there were people sposting like fingernail polishing emojas, you know,

1770
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: like I'm unbothered, I don't give a fuck, and a

1771
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: lot of people like came at them, and I'm sure

1772
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: a lot of them were mean and nasty, but some

1773
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: people apparently came to them on some like, hey man,

1774
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: you do realize this guy was more than just that moment.

1775
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 2: And to see even some of those people relent because

1776
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: you can feel how you want to feel when someone passes.

1777
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: No one should be able to tell you how to feel, agreed,

1778
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,440
Speaker 2: But to see people like have a moment of conversation

1779
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 2: with someone else that didn't end in the typical like

1780
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: fuck you, fuck me, fuck everybody, no one tells me

1781
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: what to do, like to see it kind of end

1782
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: in a way where people went okay, well, I didn't

1783
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: know that about this guy, and I do feel differently

1784
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: than when other people.

1785
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 3: Died that really hadn't done shit.

1786
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: You know, they might they might have had words, but

1787
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: they hadn't really changeably helped people, you know, like and

1788
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: this is not to knock this guy. He's dead, obviously,

1789
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: but with X ex centation, it was a lot of

1790
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: words of what he could have done or possibly would do,

1791
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: but there weren't people coming forward.

1792
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: To be like he helped me specifically, he invested in

1793
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 3: his community.

1794
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: It was a lot of like he had ideas, or

1795
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: I listened to his music and it helped me to cope,

1796
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: or that kind of which is its own, you know,

1797
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: its own experience. Like I'm not saying that that doesn't matter,

1798
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: but with Nifsey, it was so tangible, right, and.

1799
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 5: It was so much me and Ruey talked about it.

1800
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 6: It was so much his work spoke for itself, and

1801
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 6: that's a lot of people who work spoke for itself,

1802
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 6: but they are flawed him in beings and that that's

1803
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 6: kind of how I looked at it. And it's one

1804
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 6: of those things where he would like to say he

1805
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 6: was doing real tangible things people and all of when.

1806
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 5: Celebrities was like, hey, I was in this situation.

1807
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: He did this. I was here. It's almost like everybody

1808
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: that he touched.

1809
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 6: Was impacted by him, and that should mean something, you know,

1810
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 6: it really should mean something. Not that it should overshadow uh,

1811
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 6: people being angry, but it should mean something people you

1812
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 6: know you It's like, just because I'm mad, you can't

1813
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 6: erase the work somebody did just because you don't like them.

1814
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, And like I said, his shit

1815
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 3: was tangible. It wasn't theory.

1816
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a lot of these guys people want

1817
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: to think nice things because they just basically cherry picked

1818
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: the nice things they said and go, see, he wasn't

1819
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: all bad.

1820
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: But then they skip over the fact that it's like, well,

1821
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 3: he said that at the same.

1822
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: Time he was beating this woman. He said, just at

1823
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 2: the same time he's accused of right, he said, just at.

1824
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: The same time. It was like like that shit does

1825
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: matter with him.

1826
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: It seemed to be like he said this shit on

1827
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: Instagram and it was horrible, and people pulled him to

1828
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: the side and told him all this shit and he

1829
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: basically just stopped saying it didn't sound like he actually

1830
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 2: changed his mind or whatever. But then there's also like

1831
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: he did invest in this community. He dig picked people

1832
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: up from jail. He was going to get somebody closed

1833
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 2: that had just recently gotten out of prison, who essentially

1834
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: was put back in prison. I heard arrested again because

1835
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 2: they said because he was with Nipsey is associated with

1836
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: a felon or something. Anyway, that's a whole nother story.

1837
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: The point being like it seemed like there was some

1838
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 2: nuance with this guy in a way that wasn't provided

1839
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: for other people, or maybe just wasn't there for other people.

1840
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: Other people didn't put the work in to get any credit,

1841
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: to get any deserved like you know, sort of leniency

1842
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: on these black and white rules of the Internet. Sometimes

1843
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: I hear people I greatly ad my talk about how

1844
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: they used to be hotels when they first got conscious

1845
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: with this idea that maybe it could it's kind of

1846
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: a one on one entry for black consciousness for a

1847
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: lot of folks, those us who learned on our own.

1848
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: It's something I wish people would talk about more, so.

1849
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: Maybe we could figure out how we got people out

1850
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: of that, because it's a hugely destructive in many ways.

1851
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: I was actively dating, but one of the main reasons

1852
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm refraining from it now is because generally I don't

1853
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,919
Speaker 2: even want to talk to black men because he's oppressive,

1854
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: myopic attitudes. I hate to say it, but sadly, I'm

1855
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: in a space where I don't expect any better from

1856
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: sis had black men. Nah, totally get it as a

1857
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: sis head black man. Some of the conversations I have. Man,

1858
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with a dude of Dawa the

1859
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 2: other day, and it's so weird because I'm used to

1860
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: being the oddball or saying something that the person would

1861
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: then turn around and be like, well I don't know

1862
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: about that, you know, And me and this dude had

1863
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: this conversation and I was like shocked. This is just

1864
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know him from Adam. But another

1865
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: cis had black dude and he's just talking. We're talking

1866
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: about Jesse Smolett and like how in the intersection between

1867
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 2: that and people not believing, like rape victims and people

1868
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 2: And each time I'm kind of lenching up a little

1869
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: bit because I'm like, I'm you, this is when I

1870
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: get used to having like to where it's gonna be like,

1871
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: well hold up, that's not the same. And we had

1872
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: a whole like ten minute conversation where we both was

1873
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: kind of and I think he probably was feeling the

1874
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: same way. We're like, well, normally I'll talk about this shit.

1875
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: Somebody is out there, like you know, waiting for a.

1876
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Fight, and we were both saying that, you know, authoritatively

1877
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: is in like we believe what we were saying. Weren't

1878
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: asking for approval or agreement acceptance. It was simply like,

1879
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: this is what I believe.

1880
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: And to have that moment where, you know, where because

1881
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying stuff that I say on the show where

1882
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Jesse, Jesse, in that moment, is he

1883
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: being beaten?

1884
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Like he told you he's being beaten for being black

1885
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: and for being gay?

1886
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: I said, people want to accept the black part, but

1887
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: they don't want to set the gay part.

1888
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 6: You know.

1889
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: He's like, right, and it's all related.

1890
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, okay, playboys, So I can understand that,

1891
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: because I mean, how do you know that until you

1892
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and this shit is sold

1893
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: intoxicating and a Lauren, This patriarchy is so fucking tempting.

1894
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: The average dude is going to bite black or not.

1895
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 2: They are going to buy into it because it feels

1896
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: like power when it's really not so for those of

1897
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: us who continue to learn to grow past hotel attitude,

1898
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: does it really come down to your own curiosity and humility?

1899
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: I feel confident in saying that Nipsey had both. Like

1900
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: you said, he had a high love, empathy and dedication

1901
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: to his people, and I believe he would have reached

1902
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: a deeper awareness for those of how destructive these attitudes

1903
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 2: are towards our people in community. It's always thank you

1904
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: both for your page. I understand, love you guy's Erica,

1905
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Thanks Erica, thank you. Yeah that you know what we

1906
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: have people to listen to the show that be like

1907
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: I used to be a hotel and y'all. I started

1908
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: listening to y'all, I realized it was you know how

1909
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: flawed that logic was. So you know, I'm glad you listened.

1910
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoyed, and we all on this journey.

1911
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 6: Man.

1912
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: I really think people just need to take one step back,

1913
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 2: even when you really harshly want to critique somebody, to

1914
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: go in take one step back and be like, was

1915
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 2: I there before? Because if you've been there before, you

1916
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: should take a little bit of time. We also got

1917
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: something in the mail. Got a couple of gifts, it seems.

1918
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: Yes, all right. It says.

1919
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Miss Karen Joy your t Jane aka the

1920
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: written one yay, and she got you some was it?

1921
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 3: Dinosaur tea Infuser.

1922
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Two pac Yes infuser and tea Tasting Assortment.

1923
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 3: Yes, and it is a little cute thing. It it's over.

1924
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: It hangs over the cup like the little umbrellas I got. Yes,

1925
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: So there you go. Happy Birthday, Karen. Yes, thank you, Jane,

1926
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 3: thank you baby.

1927
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for this episode. We'll be back

1928
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 2: actually for premium people at three pm to.

1929
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: Do Balls Deep. I'm about to send out the email

1930
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 3: soon as to get off of here, so we'll see

1931
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 3: you guys until then.

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Speaker 5: I love you. I love you too.