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Speaker 5: know one hundred percent stripper music. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 5: a good time. You know that. I told you that

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Speaker 5: first one first Poison concert ever saw it was that

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Speaker 5: Polaris Amphitheater. Uh. Somehow I think it was in sixth grade.

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Speaker 5: Somehow my uncle got us, got us in. We had

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Speaker 5: like eight tickets. There were like twelve of us, and

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Speaker 5: he did this like thing where he was like, you

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Speaker 5: would take from his left handed ticket to his right

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Speaker 5: hand as we were passing through the gate, and he

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Speaker 5: was just like just keep shuffling forward, and so he'd

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Speaker 5: be like one, two, three, four, And I think there

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Speaker 5: were some sleight of hand where he like took the

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Speaker 5: one from his left hand to his right but then

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Speaker 5: brought it back and somehow counting and the and the ticket,

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Speaker 5: and this is obviously backed in the days of paper tickets.

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Speaker 5: The ticket guy was like and after a time and

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Speaker 5: people kept shuffling. His head's like trying to he's trying

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Speaker 5: to look at the guys going through, and he's looking

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Speaker 5: at the tickets and he's like, yeah, all right, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's a big group. Yeah yeah, Like that's good. There

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Speaker 5: you go, And and that was how we got in.

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Speaker 5: And as soon as I found a spot, they had

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Speaker 5: this big lawn up kind of looking down the amphitheater

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Speaker 5: there was there was a mom who was completely topless

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Speaker 5: and absolute hammers carrying one kid running around chasing the other,

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Speaker 5: like couldn't have been more than forty yeah, And I

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Speaker 5: was like, as a sixth grade boy, I was like, well,

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Speaker 5: this is a wild place to be, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: keep following Poison and uh yeah that was like start

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Speaker 5: of my love for the music as well as the ambiance.

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Speaker 6: Have you seen my mom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's right over there with the battleships on her

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Speaker 4: breast speed right over there.

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Speaker 6: That's her.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Brett Michaels met him in the kitchen here.

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Speaker 4: He was in studio for some reason doing one of

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Speaker 4: the other shows. Super nice guy, really really nice.

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Speaker 5: He's a super super good guy. He's a big Pittsburgh fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah oh yeah, all right, So, uh, from that Poison

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Speaker 4: to something that's the good kind of poison.

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Speaker 6: The one and only Albert Brier.

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Speaker 4: We bring you Albert Breer every single Thursday here on

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Speaker 4: this show. He's a senior NFL reporter, a lead content

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Speaker 4: strategist at the mm QB, and you can get him

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Speaker 6: Good Thursday morning to you, Sarah.

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Speaker 7: Good morning guys. I feel like that song is a

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Speaker 7: song that plays when you're walking in you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean, like when you're first walking in.

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Speaker 8: Uh, it's like rights, what establishment.

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Speaker 7: Ab those sorts of establishments.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about, Aby, you sound

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's one.

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Speaker 7: There's one. There's one that he might be familiar with

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Speaker 7: from back in the day. I think it was called

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Speaker 7: Pure Platinum.

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Speaker 5: There was a Yeah, Solid we used to talk about

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Speaker 7: There were a few of those places too, I think

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Speaker 7: There was one that was like buyo b also that

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Speaker 5: but I mean, yeah, this is all being told me secondhand, so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's yeah, it was all word mouth.

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Speaker 4: Abe, We're talking about this earlier. You know, Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 4: is not quite sure. I think it's a competitive advantage

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Speaker 4: There was a report from Pro Football Talk that apparently

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Speaker 4: Darren Moogie wanted to keep Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Glenn was

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Speaker 4: against it. And it just feels like, you know, we're

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Speaker 4: seven games into the sea and there's already fingers being

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Speaker 4: pointed in different directions different media outlets, like what what

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Speaker 4: do you make of the circus that is the Jets

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Speaker 7: I'm par for the course, you know, and I think

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Speaker 7: this is like to me and I think what's what's

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Speaker 7: interesting about it is like that place and we talked about.

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Speaker 3: It last year.

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Speaker 7: That place just needs, like from a cultural standpoint, like

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Speaker 7: a hard reset, right, like and like it's difficult to

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Speaker 7: through that, and ownership is a really important.

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Speaker 4: Piece of it.

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Speaker 7: And like I I actually like I kind of would

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Speaker 7: say ownership is more important when things are bad than

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Speaker 7: I think they become pretty important figures. And that to me,

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Speaker 7: Lions and what the Lions were able to accomplish under

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Speaker 7: start like one in six or one in seven. And

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Speaker 7: Sheila Ford had to come out and say something, had

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Speaker 7: and like she basically stood behind everybody in the building

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Speaker 9: And you know, eventually, you know, we know what became

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Speaker 7: Just look at this and they're own seven, but there's

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Speaker 7: of coming into the year. And you know, I just

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Speaker 7: like the comments of what he made the other day

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Speaker 7: don't really help, you know. I think the better thing

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Speaker 7: out of the hole. And it doesn't look very good

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Speaker 7: right now, and I don't think anybody would say that

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Speaker 7: it does. But you know, I I think that if

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Speaker 7: to you're gonna have you're gonna have to stick with something,

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Speaker 7: you know, and you're going to have to show patients

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Speaker 7: and it's going to take time. And that's where the

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Speaker 7: Jets are right now. And you'd hate to see them

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Speaker 7: just completely. And I don't know whether or not Aaron

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Speaker 7: Glenn and Darren Moosh you're gonna make it or not

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Speaker 7: as the coach or GM long term if you give

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Speaker 7: him a ton of rope. But I think after everything

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Speaker 7: you've been through, you owe it yourself to you owe

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Speaker 7: to yourself if you're the owner, to give them the

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Speaker 7: very best shot they that they can get to dig

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Speaker 7: you to dig your franchise out of it.

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Speaker 8: Sensible though, I'm sorry, yeah, but I'm just saying that

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Speaker 8: that sounds sensible, but that doesn't happen that way, Like

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Speaker 8: that's in theory, it sounds good, but yeah, Albert.

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Speaker 5: Lay money down right now? Is Aaron Glenn and Darren

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Speaker 5: Moogi both in their positions after the season?

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Speaker 7: If you had to bet and that that's the problem

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Speaker 7: is I don't know, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 5: So then you're probably betting against like one of them

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Speaker 5: getting clipped.

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Speaker 7: Basically, I don't think it's impossible. I mean, like I

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Speaker 9: The table with that franchise.

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Speaker 7: And that's sort of the problem, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 7: and it's been the problem there forever, is that everything

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Speaker 5: And so why doesn't Woody realize that, Like is he

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Speaker 7: I mean it's even yeah, I mean it's even like

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Speaker 7: having the all right, so your team's owned seven, right,

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Speaker 7: he owns I think it's like forty Crystal Palace soccer

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Speaker 7: team over in the UK. Right, It's it's even like

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Speaker 7: having the self awareness to not wear a crystal Palace

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Speaker 7: hat when your team's zero and seven, you know, walking

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Speaker 10: Like it's it's just stuff like that, like where it's like, huh,

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Speaker 10: that's interesting, you know what I mean, Like it's and

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Speaker 10: I don't know why this hasn't been fixed, but it's

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Speaker 10: been going on for twenty five years this way, this

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Speaker 10: is the way it's been forever and ever, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I like I think in the end, like he wound

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Speaker 10: they fired solid when they were what two and three

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Speaker 10: with a very manageable schedule.

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Speaker 7: Going forward, and the defense was playing really well. And

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Speaker 7: so you lose the guy who is the architecture your

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Speaker 7: defense and your head coach. You're taking your defensive coordinator

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Speaker 7: making him the head coach, so you're stretching your defensive

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's it's like it's what happens when you're

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Speaker 7: paying way too much attention to what the tabloids are saying,

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Speaker 7: with being set on social media, the climate, the media

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Speaker 7: like all of that, and I just there's never ending

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Speaker 7: cycle of that. You know, Just because some calumnists says

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Speaker 7: that that at zero to five all your football people

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Speaker 7: have no clue what they're doing doesn't make it true.

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Speaker 7: But you know, if you listen to enough of it,

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Speaker 7: you can become a convinced of it, And I think

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Speaker 7: that's sort of been the problem there for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Good jaes Aby, Do you think that there's any concern

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Speaker 7: I think he can be a pretty good quarterback this year, Albert.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, like I think that in that case, It's

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Speaker 9: So I think at some point.

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Speaker 8: This wasn't a good enough season even though they made

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Speaker 9: And that happens when you know a.

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Speaker 7: John Harbaugh has been there. I think I think John

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Speaker 4: Albert, last one for me, the trade deadline right around

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Speaker 5: Well, hopefully you're not the mush for a Notre Dame

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Speaker 7: Well, see I might bring some bad luck to you guys.

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Speaker 7: We'll see what happened.

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Speaker 5: You might you're trying to sabotage our season, man. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I had plant on it, and then those plans changed.

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Speaker 8: You know, the last time we did that, we we

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Speaker 8: lost when I showed up and I had the gout foot.

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Speaker 5: And that's actually happened every time you've we've got to

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Speaker 5: put a game together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we've lost, damn, which means it was it.

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Speaker 6: Was my fault.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm the mush it's the big game's fault.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I'm trying to think. If I've seen many Penn

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Speaker 5: State wins.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. Every game was a big game

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Speaker 8: that you've covered. Probably have not seen doesn't win.

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Speaker 5: Well, even like the Iowa Penn State game, member they win,

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Speaker 5: you put they that was a Clifford got hurt.

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Speaker 8: They put in the backup arm stiff arm to shorty

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Speaker 8: hitting towards a victory that day.

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Speaker 5: And then we did have a great friday. We had

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Speaker 5: a great friday.

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Speaker 3: We definitely did.

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Speaker 5: We had a good time.

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 5: We did.

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Speaker 7: Backing behind any candidate for the job.

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Speaker 9: Yet we've tried.

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Speaker 5: He's been very tight lipped about it. I've been trying

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Speaker 5: to you know, why I pushed out there, Albert and

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Speaker 5: this is like, I don't know why this guy doesn't

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Speaker 5: get more talked about. Is Jeff Mounkin at Army. You know,

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Speaker 5: people are like, oh, he's he's an option guy. It's like, well, no,

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Speaker 5: he's running that because they have to run that to

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Speaker 5: be competitive. Like if he went to Penn State, if

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Speaker 5: he went to another school, he would run a normal

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Speaker 5: offense like everyone else. But like they won twelve games

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Speaker 5: a year ago, you know, yeah, I mean they've literally

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Speaker 5: be come like a very consistent winning program. When you know,

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Speaker 5: it's funny like Matt Rule, you know, in one of

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Speaker 5: his top twenty five wins that year at Temple is

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Speaker 5: best year. I'm pretty sure Army beat them. Like if

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Speaker 5: if you go back and look through the history of

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Speaker 5: some of guy these other guys who've got powerful jobs,

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Speaker 5: it's like, oh, yeah, they lost Army that year, and

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Speaker 5: you're like, well, why are we hiring that guy? So

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Speaker 5: it doesn't make any sense to me, Like if you're

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Speaker 5: looking for a program builder, someone who obviously knows how

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Speaker 5: to lead, and especially like young men who are going

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Speaker 5: to Army or out there West Point, but also just

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Speaker 5: like scheme, creative, innovative. I mean, he's working with nothing

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Speaker 5: in regards to nil and those are the results. Like

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Speaker 5: you can't you can't give him a shot?

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Speaker 7: All right, I get to question. I guess the question

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Speaker 7: would be then and then I agree with everything he

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Speaker 7: said and like being able to win with you know,

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Speaker 7: it's like sort of the Brad Stevens thing, right, Like

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Speaker 7: Brad Stevens worked in the NBA because at Butler he

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Speaker 7: always had to win with last, right, Like, so that

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Speaker 7: actually translated right over. The only question I would have

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Speaker 7: is like his lack of experience swimming in those waters

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Speaker 7: where you have to raise money and you have to

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Speaker 7: do the NIL thing. I wonder if that would be

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Speaker 7: like with Lauren.

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Speaker 9: I actually don't know, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 9: I completely.

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Speaker 7: That's that one, but like.

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Speaker 5: You know, right, But here's the thing I'd always say

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Speaker 5: about like that to people. It's like, yeah, I know

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Speaker 5: how to play quarterback in Notre Dame until I got there, right,

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Speaker 5: we figured that out? Like that that would be my rebuttal.

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Speaker 5: It's like Jeff Monkin figured out how to make Army successful.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm betting on him. I think he'll

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Speaker 5: figure it out. Like, let's not give it to another

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Speaker 5: coach who's proven that he's either got a ceiling or

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Speaker 5: he hasn't been been able to do it. Why not

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Speaker 5: give it to a guy who like has been able

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Speaker 5: to do it with less, Like I feel like that

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Speaker 5: guy's more resourceful. That guy's going to be the type

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Speaker 5: of guy that can actually build up a program if

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Speaker 5: he's already working with nothing and you give him resources. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think he'll figure.

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Speaker 7: It out, right, I still you think it's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be rulled though, Oh no, I'm just I'm just throwing

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Speaker 5: it out because a lot of people have reported that

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Speaker 5: I'm not. You know, LeVar obviously has a better insight

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Speaker 5: into all that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, We've tried, tried everything. Answer any questions.

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Speaker 5: Every time there, every time I asked him a question,

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Speaker 5: he just goes that's all he does. He literally farts

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Speaker 5: into his microphone and I'm like, all right, thanks man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah's appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Ab We appreciate it. Enjoy the bye week for Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it again next week. All right, there he

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Speaker 4: is Albert Breers, Senior, NFL reported with content next week,

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Speaker 4: We are going to have the leftovers coming up in

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Speaker 4: about twelve minutes from now here on FSR. Got a

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Speaker 4: developing situation in the world of sports, and if you

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Speaker 4: are a big fan of scandals, buckle up.

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Speaker 5: Here you go always trying to vilify professional athletes.

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Speaker 6: No listen, because it's not just.

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Speaker 3: The you're so excited about that, I.

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Speaker 5: Love you are so excited about this? Go ahead, all right?

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Speaker 4: According to U Sham Sharania of ESPN. Miami Heat guard

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Speaker 4: Terry Rosier was arrested early this morning as part of

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Speaker 4: an FBI sports betting gambling probe. Sources tell ESPN the

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Speaker 4: Eastern District of New York and FBI director Cash Bettel

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Speaker 4: will hold a press conference at ten am Eastern time

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Speaker 4: to announce arrest from the investigation. And then that was

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Speaker 4: about an hour ago. About five or six minutes ago,

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Speaker 4: he had followed up with this. According to Sham Sharania,

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Speaker 4: Portland Trailblazer's head coach Chauncey Phillips has been arrested by

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Speaker 4: the FBI for alleged illegal gambling. Sources teleesp who Chauncey

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Speaker 4: No way, yes, hold on?

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Speaker 5: Yes, no, yes, don't don't include dude, Okay now that man,

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Speaker 5: I'm just celebrating.

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Speaker 4: No, because here here's here's why I say this. When

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Speaker 4: this story first came out, there was like base the

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Speaker 4: background on on the Terry Rogier stuff was during a

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three game. And this goes back to March

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty. This is a long time ago. There was

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Speaker 4: a better of a sports book in Biloxi, Mississippi, placed

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Speaker 4: like just under fourteen thousand dollars in bets on the

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Speaker 4: unders of Terry Rosier's stats on the game that night

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Speaker 4: between the Hornets and the Pelicans. Now, personally, if you're

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Speaker 4: watching Hornets Pelicans, you should get every cent of that money. Like,

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Speaker 4: if you're willing to give your time on a weeknight

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Speaker 4: to watch that garbage, you should get all of that money.

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Speaker 4: And then some and so people were doing this investigation

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Speaker 4: and kind of this deep dive on you know, is there.

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Speaker 6: Anything to this?

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Speaker 4: Is there any you know, is there any substance to this?

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Speaker 4: And they investigated it, investigated it, and ESPN was reporting,

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Speaker 4: this was a few months ago, that no rules were violated.

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Speaker 4: He was cleared, everything is fine, this is ESPN, this

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Speaker 4: is who's the NBA. The media writes all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Chris Haynes was reporting, No, man, they're still looking into this,

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Speaker 4: like there's still something to this. Like Pablo tore It

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Speaker 4: even said like, hey, this is not done. Like everyone's

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Speaker 4: focused on like the Kawhi Leonard stuff and all that,

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Speaker 4: Like there is some stuff here going on with the

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Speaker 4: gambling that they've been quietly investigating. And apparently they just

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Speaker 4: kept doing deep dives on it and deep dives on

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Speaker 4: it and looking through this whole thing. Chauncey Billups, Johntay Porter,

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Speaker 4: you remember him. He was the guy who was you know, like,

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Speaker 4: oh my eye hurts and I can't partake in this

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Speaker 4: game anymore. This is after all those bets came in,

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Speaker 4: Like all of this stuff was happening. ESPN was trying

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Speaker 4: to tell everybody, Hey, case Chloe, don't don't look here,

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Speaker 4: don't look there. And next thing you know, it's ter

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Speaker 4: Rogier getting arrested. It's Chauncey Billups the coach getting arrested,

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Speaker 4: and all of this on the week that the NBA

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Speaker 4: opens up their brand new season.

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Speaker 6: Welcome in, everybody, Welcome back.

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Speaker 5: So let me first start by saying this, Uh, the FBI,

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Speaker 5: obviously who's doing the investigation and doing all of this,

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Speaker 5: They're kind of in a tough spot. And only because

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Speaker 5: like and I'm only saying this as a former player,

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Speaker 5: because whoever ends up being the first to do this

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Speaker 5: to get caught, they are gonna hammer them. And they

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Speaker 5: have to set the precedent yep, Like they have to

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Speaker 5: scare every NBA player, coach, anyone involved to the point

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Speaker 5: where they will never contemplate doing this. Otherwise you're ripping

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Speaker 5: away the integrity of the game. And this is already

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Speaker 5: a league that has battled that issue in the past.

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Speaker 5: I mean Tim Donahue, Tim Donahey, right yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: that whole scale like that was as bad as it was,

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Speaker 5: and the NBA, I mean, I would say, look, they're

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Speaker 5: never going to recover from the era of Jordan and

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Speaker 5: all the other greats during that time. I think the

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Speaker 5: peak of the viewership and all that was like more nineties.

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Speaker 5: But this could really hurt the integrity of the league.

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Speaker 5: Adam Silver knows that. I think most star players that everyone

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Speaker 5: realizes that. What surprises me about all this is, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think Chelsea Philps made ever a hundred million during

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Speaker 5: his playing career. Terry Razier made over He's made like

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Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty some million. He's supposed to make

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Speaker 5: like twenty six this year. I just don't understand. I mean,

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Speaker 5: maybe they're getting a ton of thrown at them to

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Speaker 5: do this sort of thing. If if again this is true,

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Speaker 5: maybe that maybe they're getting paid a time more than that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, But when they've made that much money,

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Speaker 5: it's just it's shocking that they would do anything to

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Speaker 5: risk it. But I mean again, Chaunzy Phillips is a

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Speaker 5: great dude. From every interaction I've ever had with him,

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Speaker 5: I would I'd be surprised. I'd be really surprised this

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Speaker 5: is all true.

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Speaker 4: And then also on the terry like this is where

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Speaker 4: and look, I'm not saying any any of this is

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Speaker 4: not great and you should not partake in this, but

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Speaker 4: there's also some sloppiness to this, to where dude, like

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Speaker 4: a guy made thirty wagers, this guy in Mississippi made

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Speaker 4: thirty wagers. All thirty of them hit, and the reason

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Speaker 4: they hit is because they were all on the under

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Speaker 4: of Terry Rogier that night, and so basically one hundred percent,

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Speaker 4: and he exited the game. He was not listed on

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Speaker 4: the injury report. He finished the game with five points,

653
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Speaker 4: four rebounds, and two assists, all under the betting line

654
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Speaker 4: on his statistics, every one of those hit on the under.

655
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Speaker 4: And then he didn't play the remainder of the season,

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Speaker 4: like you know, like not on the injury report, like

657
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Speaker 4: not listed anywhere, exited the game ten minutes into the

658
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Speaker 4: game when all those hit and he qualified and everything

659
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Speaker 4: hit on the under, and that he didn't play the

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Speaker 4: rest of the year. It's just so if that's the case,

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Speaker 4: why didn't he play the rest of the year.

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Speaker 6: Who knew what what else was going on?

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Speaker 4: I think he got traded, you know, that offseason, maybe

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Speaker 4: to Miami and now he's with the Heat. But this

665
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Speaker 4: is and now you've got a question, all right, what

666
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Speaker 4: did somebody know? And the fact that it's a hit,

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Speaker 4: like the coaching part of it is I think the

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Speaker 4: most damning part of this whole thing, because this is

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Speaker 4: like the Pete Rose stuff and Pete Rose was vilified

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Speaker 4: for the rest of his life and banned from baseball.

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Speaker 4: And if you've got a coach, that's also part of this.

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Speaker 8: This now all bigger than bigger than just one than

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Speaker 8: one just one person, Like there's there's like a collective.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm I'm assuming that, but but where you're

675
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Speaker 8: going with it, I'm right there with you, Like this

676
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 8: is bigger than just these names that we just heard,

677
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Speaker 8: which means that that rabbit hole goes a lot deeper,

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Speaker 8: which means that there's going to be more names that

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Speaker 8: pop up. And it's just I'm curious as to how

680
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Speaker 8: many name brand names will pop up because we've always

681
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Speaker 8: said that they have no problem going after the no name,

682
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Speaker 8: little name type dudes that that are are popping hot

683
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Speaker 8: for for gambling. But you never really hear big names

684
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Speaker 8: like your your head goes up, your ears perk up,

685
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 8: your your interest level goes up when you hear a

686
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Speaker 8: name like a Chauncey billups come out like he's not

687
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Speaker 8: doing that on his own. So it'd be interesting to

688
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Speaker 8: see how that all plays out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Jeez man, and bring up.

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Speaker 4: And also the Tim Donahy story. You know, the best

692
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Speaker 4: part about that story is say, Dona huge, Donahey, whatever, Donnison.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not as into it like you are.

694
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Speaker 4: Well gambling, But the best part of the best part

695
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Speaker 4: of that story is the NBA knew about it kept

696
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Speaker 4: it quiet because they were on the brink of signing

697
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: that big billion dollar media rights deal or whatever it

698
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Speaker 4: was with ESPN, and they just kept their mouths shut,

699
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you know, they signed on

700
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Speaker 4: the dotted line. They're like, oh, by the way, we

701
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: got this official. He just can't help himself, guys betting

702
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: on playoff games. He's got all this stuff going on.

703
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Speaker 4: It's like they know and they knew that this stuff

704
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Speaker 4: was happening, and now it's all coming out and it's

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Speaker 4: probably just the tip of the iceberg, as we were saying.

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Speaker 2: Time to find out what's left Ton's incredible. Here's the

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Speaker 2: left over all.

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Speaker 6: Right, larray ray, what do we got?

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Speaker 12: I got some yummy leftovers for you boys today. You know,

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Speaker 12: I love supportive fathers. And I saw that Cam Scattaboo's

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Speaker 12: dad got a new tattoo to commemorate him being on

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Speaker 12: the Giants. It's a very large piece, got Lady Liberty

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Speaker 12: in the back and then yeah, it looks really cool.

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Speaker 12: And he already has a tattoo commemorating his time at

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Speaker 12: his alma mater. So pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: Isn't this dad all tatted up?

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Speaker 12: I haven't counted how many tattoos he has.

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Speaker 4: I think he's like, it's very noticeable, like he's sleeved

744
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: up and he looks.

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Speaker 6: Just like him.

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Speaker 4: But that's what me and Burs said.

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Speaker 12: They look like twins. They don't even look like they're

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Speaker 12: that much older than each other.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, nice, nice job, I would I think that's

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Speaker 6: so sweet.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see Q and his boys do that.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, nope, don't do it.

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Speaker 5: I can't do it. No tattoos. Fact, they say no,

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Speaker 5: thank you.

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Speaker 6: All right, I do have another left over here.

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Speaker 12: We did talk about Lamar Jackson earlier in his late

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Speaker 12: night eating things. Well, the Ravens have a lot of

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Speaker 12: work to get done right now. After they're lost to

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Speaker 12: Kansas City. The coaching staff was not happy, and they

760
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Speaker 12: made some serious changes.

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Speaker 6: To their locker room.

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Speaker 12: They removed several distractions is what they called them, things

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Speaker 12: like the ping pong table, cornhole, bowl boards, basketball hoops.

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Speaker 12: You heard me, yea. Their video game consoles have all

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Speaker 12: been removed because of their one to five seasons.

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Speaker 4: So I had heard that it wasn't the coaches, that

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Speaker 4: it was actually Lamar Jackson who had that stuff removed,

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Speaker 4: that he thought that that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Was a distract.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, that's that was one of the fall

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Speaker 4: up reports.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I mean, does any of that matter.

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Speaker 5: I just like, we're guys out there playing like heated

774
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Speaker 5: matches of ping pong, and they're like, oh wait a second,

775
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Speaker 5: we have to get back out there and you know,

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Speaker 5: go play in the third quarter. It's like, come on,

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Speaker 5: I just I hear about these moves, and I don't

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Speaker 5: care if it's coaches or players that do it. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: that's not the issue. Your team's banged up, and honestly, defensively,

780
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: you haven't played that well this year even when you weren't. Like,

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Speaker 5: those are the fixes that need to be made on

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Speaker 5: the field in the classroom, like playing a ten to

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Speaker 5: fifteen minute ping pong game. That's the least of my concerns.

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Speaker 5: Most players outside the stadium or the facility are doing

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Speaker 5: god knows what, like trust me, leave the stuff in

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Speaker 5: the facility. That is the safest, best thing that the

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Speaker 5: most players are doing when they're not in meeting rooms

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Speaker 5: and not practicing.

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Speaker 4: By the way, in a room full of alpha males

790
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Speaker 4: and everybody's competitive. How heated do some of those games

791
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Speaker 4: get like ping pong and some of those other games get.

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Speaker 4: I guess they get competitive like heated? I mean, are

793
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Speaker 4: they throwing around?

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Speaker 8: I don't know. You just have a better knowledge base

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Speaker 8: on this. I'm not going to be.

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Speaker 5: What locker room shenanigans with ping.

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Speaker 3: Going to be a locker room.

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Speaker 12: How big is the locker room?

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Speaker 3: Isn't that where you like shower?

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Speaker 5: And don't bring all that you know, pent up frustration?

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 5: You say, whatever's not happening outside the mic? You see?

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Speaker 4: And by the by the way, Lareta's But are you

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Speaker 4: working on a twenty four hour bender right now?

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Speaker 6: You haven't slept.

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Speaker 12: I haven't slept since seven yesterday, before yesterday.

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Speaker 4: She went to Disneyland after the show yesterday and was

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Speaker 4: there till four in the afternoon.

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Speaker 6: What a miserable exacce.

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Speaker 3: My fireworks are off the chain.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what was wrong with me.

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Speaker 3: You enjoyed the fireworks? Okay, yeah, something like that, Yeah,