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Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and
Speaker 2: editor at DJ and music maker Shook one, and for
Speaker 2: intro and outro purposes, I'm temporarily standing in for your
Speaker 2: regular host and proud creator of this particular podcast, mister
Speaker 2: Brett Goldstein, as Big Pun once said, dead in the
Speaker 2: middle of Little Lily Little, did we know that we
Speaker 2: riddled two middlemen who didn't do diddley and unrelated, I
Speaker 2: caught a triple bill of little Women, Chicken, Little and
Speaker 2: in the middle of the River. The last one does
Speaker 2: exist if you want to check it out on IMDb.
Speaker 2: I would never dispute you, Big Pun. Every week Bretton
Speaker 2: writes a guest on he tells them they've died and
Speaker 2: then talks to them about their life through the medium
Speaker 2: of film. But this week we are revisiting an earlier
Speaker 2: episode of the podcast while we take an ever so
Speaker 2: quick break. Yes, indeed, is that time once more for
Speaker 2: a films to be buried with rewind classic. This rewind
Speaker 2: is from some time around June twenty twenty, a period
Speaker 2: for which some of us might see a sign in
Speaker 2: our imagination simply saying footage missing. This was the early
Speaker 2: moments of the pandemic and an interesting time for a
Speaker 2: huge amount of podcasts as the Zoom platform started to
Speaker 2: form a very large piece of the puzzle. But so
Speaker 2: many of us also became so familiar with the intricacies
Speaker 2: in glitches and overlapping, Uh no, you go ahead, or
Speaker 2: can you hear me of Zoom because we were communicating
Speaker 2: with people in day to day life that way too.
Speaker 2: One thing is for sure, though, At a time when
Speaker 2: being in the same room as someone for a podcast
Speaker 2: recording was an unwise move, an episode with the one
Speaker 2: and only Sharon Stone would have otherwise been impossible. So
Speaker 2: here we have it. A look back at episode ninety
Speaker 2: nine with Sharon Stone, who you know from well, let's
Speaker 2: just say Films, Basic Instinct, Sliver, Casino to name but three.
Speaker 2: But in this chat we heard so much of what
Speaker 2: Sharon does went off screen, including some really inspiring charity
Speaker 2: work and her experiences in that world. Of course, we
Speaker 2: also get some great eight anecdotes from her career in
Speaker 2: acting and some really awesome film digs which don't often
Speaker 2: come up on the podcast, which I can confirm. Now
Speaker 2: we're almost on episode three hundred, let me take this
Speaker 2: opportunity to also remind you that Brett has a Patreon
Speaker 2: page for the podcast, upon which you will get an
Speaker 2: extra section on every episode with a secret from each guest,
Speaker 2: more questions, and a video of each episode which looks
Speaker 2: all nice and fresh. There are a selection of tears
Speaker 2: on there too, and on the uppermost tiers. I make
Speaker 2: you a cinematic soundtrack mixtape every month with full track
Speaker 2: list that I reckon you'll enjoy very much. So if
Speaker 2: you're of a supporting nature and feel like some extras
Speaker 2: from this show, you'll find them all there. So that's
Speaker 2: it for now. Let's get you settled in now with
Speaker 2: a lovely look back at a really great episode with
Speaker 2: acting royalty Sharon Stone. She was recording outside and there
Speaker 2: are some outside sounds here and there, and at the
Speaker 2: time I did what I could to rescue some of
Speaker 2: the harder to hear moments. I've given it a new
Speaker 2: sweep too, just to make sure, but just to note
Speaker 2: that the sound is very occasionally a little bit funky.
Speaker 2: All right, catch you at the end for a quick
Speaker 2: sign off, But for now, please enjoy episode ninety nine
Speaker 2: via episode two ninety of Films to be Buried.
Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with. It
Speaker 1: is I Bret Comstein from South London, and I am
Speaker 1: joined today by an activist, a hero, a producer, a writer,
Speaker 1: an actor, a legend, a woman of the year, a
Speaker 1: woman of the century, and one of the greatest film
Speaker 1: stars of all time. Please welcome to the show, the
Speaker 1: incredible Sharon Stone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, maybe you should just introduce me everywhere I go.
Speaker 3: I'd love to and I go to the next room
Speaker 3: to see my children, would be great, Am I guessing
Speaker 3: your look up from the computer.
Speaker 1: You need to be more excited than she's here. I'll
Speaker 1: keep saying that every day we are recording is at
Speaker 1: the zoom you were in your garden in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. How are you
Speaker 1: so far with lockdown living?
Speaker 3: You know, I've never gotten to spend this much time
Speaker 3: with my teenage sons, so I'm really happy. You know,
Speaker 3: they don't get to really complain about hanging out with me.
Speaker 3: Is so it's awesome. You know. I give them all
Speaker 3: the time they want on their computers, and in exchange,
Speaker 3: we have dinner together every day.
Speaker 1: That's the trade off, is it?
Speaker 3: Kind of? And you know, they have their chores and
Speaker 3: I have mine, and we do them relatively without complaint,
Speaker 3: and it's good, you know, it's it's actually fun and
Speaker 3: we're doing things together that we enjoy and we feel
Speaker 3: so blessed. I mean, my kids get it that we're
Speaker 3: lucky that we have our own roof over our head
Speaker 3: and food to eat, and that we're well and you know,
Speaker 3: so far everything's okay here. We're really great. You know,
Speaker 3: we have to talk about it before we eat. We
Speaker 3: sit down at the table and we either say a
Speaker 3: prayer or we talk about it, or we have some
Speaker 3: moments of gratitude. And I think it's really grounding and
Speaker 3: just being able to be more fully in our core
Speaker 3: personalities has been well. Frankly, I think it's good for everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, that's very nice. I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you. There are a couple of things I want
Speaker 1: to ask you. One then, was you do a lot
Speaker 1: of work in lots of different areas, because now with
Speaker 1: a lot of us enforced not working, you know, do
Speaker 1: you like that or does it make you anxious? Are
Speaker 1: you are you happy to relax and not work or
Speaker 1: do you need to work?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm working? A lot of what I do, I
Speaker 3: don't leave home to do it. Sometimes I do. I
Speaker 3: travel a lot internationally, but a lot of what I
Speaker 3: do does work like this anyway, you know, because I
Speaker 3: talked to people internationally, and you know, like it can
Speaker 3: be as simple as you know. I worked with an organization. Well,
Speaker 3: when I let's go back further, when I worked with
Speaker 3: Amphar and I was doing trying to find a cure
Speaker 3: vaccine for AIDS. We started to realize that one of
Speaker 3: the things we wanted to do was stop mother to
Speaker 3: child transmission. We developed through giving grants, we developed this
Speaker 3: drug called the verapede that stopped mother to child transmission.
Speaker 3: So in third world countries there was a big problem
Speaker 3: with that because the mothers couldn't breastfeed and they had
Speaker 3: sealthy water, and so it was like, are you giving
Speaker 3: your kid malaria? Are you giving your kid AIDS? So
Speaker 3: then I started to realize, we've got to really work
Speaker 3: on clean water. So I went to Africa with a
Speaker 3: group and I started to become educated about how to
Speaker 3: drill wells, how to drill and I went to northern
Speaker 3: Uganda and where you put them? Can you put them
Speaker 3: in bedrock? Can you put them in dirt? How do
Speaker 3: you put them in how much does it cost? How
Speaker 3: do you broker with these like very small area politicians
Speaker 3: who you know are corrupt in ways that are you know,
Speaker 3: it's hard to really explain. So you're trying to deal
Speaker 3: with why things cost so much money that shouldn't cost
Speaker 3: that much money, and then how to get these towns
Speaker 3: to invest. And then I work with Mohammed Yunis, who
Speaker 3: invented the microlan, who I met when I was lucky
Speaker 3: enough to host the Nobel Peace Price Concert and I
Speaker 3: got to interview him. So then I helped bring the
Speaker 3: microlan to America because even though we're a first world country,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of areas that need the micro loan
Speaker 3: where we can get very very small loans and start
Speaker 3: businesses and get homeless people off the street. So all
Speaker 3: these things start to interconnect. And then ultimately I meet
Speaker 3: all people from all different kinds of five oh one
Speaker 3: to three c's, which are what these charities are called.
Speaker 3: So I'm able to sometimes say, hey, you who are
Speaker 3: a charity who put in cattle, chickens things like that
Speaker 3: into areas. Pay you who are putting in water? Hey,
Speaker 3: you who are giving micro loans. Can I organize you
Speaker 3: so that we start putting them in the same place.
Speaker 3: So if somebody you can direct somebody and say, would
Speaker 3: you like to put your water where someone has already
Speaker 3: put livestock? Hey, you would you like to give some
Speaker 3: micro loans in an area so those people don't get
Speaker 3: raped when they're going from the latrine back to the village,
Speaker 3: so they can have sell lights. And then this becomes
Speaker 3: Now we're starting to have a functioning town, and then
Speaker 3: we start to end poverty in this area. So a
Speaker 3: lot of the work that I do is just hooking
Speaker 3: people up with each other. As the work I've done
Speaker 3: over the last twenty five years, I've met so many
Speaker 3: people and I know so many different people from all
Speaker 3: over the world that people know me and they know
Speaker 3: that I don't have any but thing in the game.
Speaker 3: I just want things to go better.
Speaker 1: That's so amazing. That's brilliant, that's incredible. I didn't know
Speaker 1: half of that. That's some serious shit.
Speaker 3: It's actually quite quite terrific.
Speaker 1: So you've seen that toual like success and positive grath
Speaker 1: and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: From all these things, Yes, and then I also have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to know wonderful people who work in the
Speaker 3: UN and people who work at World Health, and they
Speaker 3: keep me educated as what we're doing this, and here's
Speaker 3: the statistics there. And maybe they go to Ruhenga and
Speaker 3: go in these refugee camps and I'm watching them, I'm
Speaker 3: live there with them on their cameras, and they're saying
Speaker 3: to me, oh, did you know the average time that
Speaker 3: someone spends in a refugee camp is twelve years? Well,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. So what happens to me is
Speaker 3: then I start to be able to tell people like
Speaker 3: you that, and we start to ask governments, well, then
Speaker 3: why aren't you putting in toilets or showers or schools
Speaker 3: if you know that's the average amount of time. Where
Speaker 3: is the compassion of funding? Why are we treating people
Speaker 3: like this? Why are we letting diseases run rampant? And
Speaker 3: then why when we come to places like now we're
Speaker 3: in a pandemic? Were we just doing that? So if
Speaker 3: that happened, all these people would die? I mean, what
Speaker 3: is the endgame here? So this is I said that
Speaker 3: sometimes you just have to go out aside and like
Speaker 3: just scream at the top of your lungs and if
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know how to cope with all
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 1: Who see you seem to be dealing and seeing such
Speaker 1: a vast amount of stuff at once. I don't know
Speaker 1: how one person can hold it all in without having
Speaker 1: to scream or cry or explain amazing, And.
Speaker 3: That, my friend, is why we should not be going out. Now.
Speaker 3: Don't go out, You'll only become a statistic. And while
Speaker 3: statistics are in fact extremely important, if we actually would
Speaker 3: have intelligent behavior, and we would have a team of
Speaker 3: people who would go door to door all through this country,
Speaker 3: phone to phone, taking statistics professionally, we wouldn't have to
Speaker 3: kill people to get statistics. We just need a team.
Speaker 3: We don't need to really die to get these statistics. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I much prefer round using phones than everyone having
Speaker 1: to die.
Speaker 3: We're all we're all bugged anyway they have. Oh, come on,
Speaker 3: if you have a cell phone, if you have a computer,
Speaker 3: everybody knows everything that everyone is doing. It's not that large.
Speaker 3: We can really easily get these statistics done. You don't
Speaker 3: have to die for them, in my opinion. And yes,
Speaker 3: the economy is going to go to shit, but every
Speaker 3: country is just going to have to stand up and
Speaker 3: forgive every other country's debts, and then it'll be exactly
Speaker 3: like it is right now, nothing will have changed.
Speaker 1: That's the bit I can't get my around. But I'm
Speaker 1: not half as intelligent as you is. I just sort
Speaker 1: of think, isn't the economy it's just all it's made up.
Speaker 3: It's all number machine, it's all made up anyway, So
Speaker 3: why doesn't every country just say we're going to start
Speaker 3: from zero, forgive everybody's debts on the entire planet, every
Speaker 3: human being, each other, every single person is starting over.
Speaker 1: I think that's honestly, that's my I also think in
Speaker 1: terms of like even creative stuff, like every everyone's making
Speaker 1: such weird stuff because we're all locked in. I sort
Speaker 1: of feel like, when this is all over, let's just
Speaker 1: well wipe the slightly. We won't. Everyone can forget all
Speaker 1: the mad things that we did to get through this,
Speaker 1: and like we'll start from zero. Start, the economy will
Speaker 1: start creatively everything, right, Take it as a fresh start.
Speaker 1: That's what it was.
Speaker 3: For, right, See where we are, See who we are.
Speaker 1: See who we are. I would like that, can we
Speaker 1: do that? I'll do that. You're me all right, so
Speaker 1: tell me this can I ask you this creatively. You
Speaker 1: said to me, if I may, before we started this,
Speaker 1: you said you were writing short story? Short story? Are
Speaker 1: you writing lots of things? A creative stuff?
Speaker 3: I wrote a book. It's coming out in January of
Speaker 3: twenty one.
Speaker 1: And I got it's.
Speaker 3: About me and I am a bit of another. So
Speaker 3: we'll see.
Speaker 1: That sounds exciting. Is it your your memoirs?
Speaker 3: Hard to say? Okay, I don't know if that I
Speaker 3: would call it a memoir. It's exploring a moment in
Speaker 3: my life and how I got there.
Speaker 1: Fascinating. So it's just about one short period.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a stroke and a nine day brain hemorrhage.
Speaker 3: And it starts when I'm on the table with the
Speaker 3: doctor telling me that I'm having a brain hemorrhage, and
Speaker 3: then it's me trying to figure out how the fuck
Speaker 3: did that happen? What did I do to end up there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What happened in my life that led me there nine days?
Speaker 1: Yeah, parent's done. You have lived a life, Thank God.
Speaker 3: That's what it's about.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds fascinating. One last question I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you before we get to the main stuff that
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with, is that as an actor, you
Speaker 1: were working very hard and very well and doing lots
Speaker 1: of your stuff for quite a while before you were
Speaker 1: suddenly massively famous and a massive film stuff. So there
Speaker 1: were a few years before that, and in that time, I imagine,
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong, but I imagine you have ideas
Speaker 1: of what it is like to be at the level
Speaker 1: that you then got to. But when it actually happened,
Speaker 1: when you sort of broke through, was it terrifying and
Speaker 1: the nightmare? Or was it amazing and wonderful all a
Speaker 1: bit of back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was a lot. I think that
Speaker 3: we sometimes have an understanding pieces of our destiny. It's
Speaker 3: like if a does a caterpillar know it's going to
Speaker 3: be a butterfly? Does it like the way it feels
Speaker 3: when it's being broken apart? Does it like that feeling?
Speaker 3: Does it feel good when it's smashing through? Does it
Speaker 3: feel like it's dying? And then when it starts to
Speaker 3: fly does that feel good? Do other butterflies say, hey,
Speaker 3: you made it? Or do they say, like, you know,
Speaker 3: get the fuck away from it. What's going to happen next?
Speaker 3: That was really intense. I don't know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen now. It's a lot like that, right, And there
Speaker 3: was something about the nature of me that was was singular. Right.
Speaker 3: I wasn't the kind of star that everybody was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: let's all get together and be with her.
Speaker 1: You were alone, butterfly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't like, you know, a flock of sparrows,
Speaker 3: a gathering of these things. It wasn't like there were
Speaker 3: a whole lot of us and I was going to
Speaker 3: be Oh, look, I'm one of them. You know. It
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck? And that's an intense reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only imagine. I imagine it being quite terrifying.
Speaker 1: The idea of the thing that I imagine is terrifying.
Speaker 1: I imagine a lot of it's very exciting and thrilling,
Speaker 1: but it's not being able to turn it off.
Speaker 3: It's good to have a sense of humor. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I was very blessed not to be so young. I
Speaker 3: was already thirty two, thank god, or I probably would
Speaker 3: be dead. And I was very lucky to have friends
Speaker 3: that i'd had already for a long time, and those
Speaker 3: same friends now great. So that's the thing. That's the
Speaker 3: thing I really think about with the stars that become
Speaker 3: stars so very young, you know, and that's like, I
Speaker 3: really like Taylor Swift. Yeah, and I think a lot
Speaker 3: because she writes such cool lyrics, and I think a
Speaker 3: lot about that. I hope she has friends and she
Speaker 3: has keeps those same friends and they stay her friends
Speaker 3: for ten, twenty, thirty, forty fifty years, because you know,
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable to sit in the kitchen and say, remember
Speaker 3: when when we were at the other house thirty years
Speaker 3: ago and I couldn't get there, couldn't get any furniture,
Speaker 3: and those things really make a difference.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Have a sense of you. We're going to
Speaker 1: keep your friends. It's good advice. Yeah, Sharon, I've forgotten
Speaker 1: to tell you something and it's it's really bad that
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you. It's up top at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the podcast. I feel like an idiot. I'll just
Speaker 1: have to say it. It's awkward, but I just have
Speaker 1: to say it. You've You've died, You've died. I know,
Speaker 1: how did you die?
Speaker 3: Each time, the time, the next time, the next time.
Speaker 3: Because I've been hit with lightning. I had spoke you
Speaker 3: got hit by lightning. I got hit by lightning. What's
Speaker 3: that light Wow, it really intense. I was it sounds
Speaker 3: like it. I was at home. We had our own well.
Speaker 3: I was filling the iron with water and I had
Speaker 3: one hand on the faucet at one hand on the iron,
Speaker 3: and the well got hit with lightning and the lightning
Speaker 3: came up through the water and I got picked up
Speaker 3: and thrown across the kitchen and I hit the and
Speaker 3: I was like whoa. And my mother was standing there,
Speaker 3: and my mother just belted me across the face. What
Speaker 3: brought me too? Like I was in such an altered state,
Speaker 3: like just so I don't know how to describe it,
Speaker 3: so bright, like wow. And she threw me in the
Speaker 3: car and drove me to the hospital. And the EKG
Speaker 3: was just showing such electricity in my body. I had
Speaker 3: to coach ats like every single day for like ten days. Wow,
Speaker 3: it was so crazy. Yeah, it was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of things. It's crazy death.
Speaker 1: What's your ideal death? Basically you can choose.
Speaker 3: Your dream death under a clothesline. I had my neck
Speaker 3: cut to like sixteenth of an inch from my jugular
Speaker 3: vein when I was fourteen. Right, you're a miracle, it's right.
Speaker 3: So it's like, how am I going to die next time?
Speaker 3: Probably something again super dramatic and nuts, but me all
Speaker 3: the way, I doubt it, I know, or am I
Speaker 3: dead now? And just like hey, sense, yeah.
Speaker 1: You were so much electricity when you got stuck by
Speaker 1: light that you just you're just here on my screen.
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your big dramatic death? What should
Speaker 1: we choose? Giant boulder comes from the sky crushes you
Speaker 1: prove it?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I hope I'm like picked up
Speaker 3: by aliens and I have to move through there like
Speaker 3: energy source.
Speaker 1: And it's too much in your body exploits.
Speaker 3: I don't know, something or transforms into like their kind
Speaker 3: of life force and then I have to be alive
Speaker 3: in their thing and see what that's like.
Speaker 1: All right, you can have that. Do you do you
Speaker 1: worry about death? You've been so through it so many times?
Speaker 1: Is it something now you're you?
Speaker 3: No? No, I mean sometimes I get like tired of
Speaker 3: like I have frailties, and sometimes I get bored with
Speaker 3: the frailties.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Do you do you believe in an afterlife
Speaker 1: or another life or you've.
Speaker 3: Had so many?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so.
Speaker 3: I believe in like seeing again maybe I like that
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I've got news for you. You're right. If
Speaker 1: you like, you're right. There is reinformation, but there's a
Speaker 1: bit in the middle. There's a pause, and this is
Speaker 1: where we're meeting. We're meeting in the pause in heaven,
Speaker 1: and in heaven they're obsessed with films. They're obsessed with films,
Speaker 1: weird in it. And what they want to know about
Speaker 1: is your life but through film. And the first thing
Speaker 1: they ask you is what is the first film that
Speaker 1: you remember seeing. She's got her homework.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, pressed, Well, actually I don't need that. I mean,
Speaker 3: I watched films on television, but the first one I
Speaker 3: saw properly, my mother took me to the drive in
Speaker 3: and we saw Georgie Girl with Lynn Rendbrey, and I thought,
Speaker 3: first of all, it was scandalous kind of that she
Speaker 3: would take me. I was like a little too young
Speaker 3: to be there. I was probably like eleven, and I
Speaker 3: just remember thinking about how women were wearing girdles and
Speaker 3: like really funny underwear, and she was just like trying
Speaker 3: to fight to have her own real life. And you know,
Speaker 3: my mother was really interested in that. You know, I
Speaker 3: just thought she was so cool and really like a
Speaker 3: wonderful actress, you know what I mean. I just thought
Speaker 3: she was great. I thought it was great, Like it
Speaker 3: was different than the kind of movies I'd seen on TV.
Speaker 3: It had so much more reality and grit.
Speaker 1: Do you remember deciding to be an actress and actor?
Speaker 1: Did that happen because of Do you remember watching that film?
Speaker 1: I think, and I want to do that?
Speaker 3: What was part of it? I think that film really
Speaker 3: influenced my work in Bobby. I would say that that
Speaker 3: was more my Linen Red Gravy kind of tribute work,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it was like I
Speaker 3: saw her like that. I saw that character very like
Speaker 3: like her, you know, that chick who was like you
Speaker 3: may think I'm just here, but I have a bigger
Speaker 3: plan that you don't really get. But if you really
Speaker 3: saw me, you'd get me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Where was this? Where were you going
Speaker 1: to driving? Where did you grow up?
Speaker 3: In a little town in Pennsylvania near the Great Lakes,
Speaker 3: near the seaports like Lake Erie, Lake Michigan, all those
Speaker 3: lakes and uh, a lot of lakes, a lot of
Speaker 3: Amish people, a lot of monsters, basic seaport, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of Dingy seaport, railroad, zipper factory, bars, churches, very
Speaker 3: Italian kind of environment, Polish Irish Italian like, very immigrant
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 1: Forgive my lack of geography knowledge. How far is it
Speaker 1: from where you are now? Is it like a very long.
Speaker 3: Way the exact other side of the country. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: the state below New York. Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania, which
Speaker 3: is like where the you know, it's this capital of
Speaker 3: our country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, got it. Tell me this. What is the
Speaker 1: film that scared you the most? And you like being scared?
Speaker 3: Where's the thing? I get scared more by psychological things
Speaker 3: than by like boo things, you know. And then I
Speaker 3: get scared more deeply by things that make me really
Speaker 3: have to think about stuff. And the one that's made
Speaker 3: me that really got into me the most was this
Speaker 3: film called The Life of David Gaale, which was a
Speaker 3: film that Kevin Spacey and and my favorite Kate were in,
Speaker 3: and it was a film about capital punishment. And I
Speaker 3: watched that movie and you know, later went to bed
Speaker 3: and in the middle of the night, I just sat up,
Speaker 3: threw my legs over the side of the bed and
Speaker 3: was just just sat there like like a like out
Speaker 3: of a stead sleep and I was just sitting there like, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is so intense and the impact of it was
Speaker 3: so deep. And these people have become I would say
Speaker 3: they're probably through my favorite actors. They just the way
Speaker 3: they embody their work, the depth to which they're willing
Speaker 3: to explore their work. So yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Do you I was going to ask, and
Speaker 1: I assume that answers that have you ever have you
Speaker 1: found making films has lessened you being able to just
Speaker 1: enjoy watching films? Do you find yourself analyzing them all
Speaker 1: from it?
Speaker 3: It certainly lessened my ability to like a shitty film,
Speaker 3: mediocre film, or a film where the boom operator keeps
Speaker 3: dropping the mic the frame or.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite kind of film, or any.
Speaker 3: Of those kind of films, or the film where they
Speaker 3: cross the line and it's like the guys over here
Speaker 3: and then the woman's in the wrong place when you
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what did you do you think we're
Speaker 3: not going to notice that they're jumping around. I can't
Speaker 3: hear I can't even see that. I can't hear what
Speaker 3: they're saying.
Speaker 4: You can do another take like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other thing.
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to know when you're acting,
Speaker 1: if I may, do you work instinctively instinctually or do
Speaker 1: you do loads and loads of homework and loads of
Speaker 1: loads of research and your character lines of or do
Speaker 1: you just let it go? Or both or a third
Speaker 1: option if you like.
Speaker 3: Each character has its own way that we approach each other.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: Some of them possess me like a demon. Some of
Speaker 3: them we make friends. Some of them we work together
Speaker 3: and something happens, you know, they were like colleagues. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like it depends on the character. You know, characters
Speaker 3: have their own way of we meet differently. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a it's like a it's a relationship. And some
Speaker 3: of them, you know, are easier to say goodbye than
Speaker 3: others too. Yeah, some of them it's like get the
Speaker 3: fuck off me, like thank you. And some of them
Speaker 3: you have rituals. Some of them is just like the
Speaker 3: end of the day, like whatever, you know, and some
Speaker 3: of them, for me, some of them just don't take
Speaker 3: as well as others.
Speaker 1: I really love that. Right, What is the film that
Speaker 1: made you cry? The nice you cry?
Speaker 3: A lot of films I was thinking and thinking and
Speaker 3: I think it's the Boy in this stripe pajamas.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a film.
Speaker 3: I think that was it. I don't really like sentimentality.
Speaker 3: I like sentiment, but there's something about seeing this kind
Speaker 3: of profound understanding through child like I just alternatively, Life
Speaker 3: of a Dog I thought was just so extraordinary. Yes,
Speaker 3: I love that film so much. When that kid had
Speaker 3: that string running up and down his face, I just
Speaker 3: that was it. I was done before. But the Boy
Speaker 3: in the stripe pajamas.
Speaker 1: What is the film that Critically it's not acclaimed, most
Speaker 1: people don't like it, but you love it and you
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 3: What most people think. But it's triple X.
Speaker 1: That is the perfect answer.
Speaker 3: Triple X. And you know, I'm an adult. I'm in
Speaker 3: the film. And I totally believed that Triple X had
Speaker 3: the triple X tattoo on the back of his neck
Speaker 3: and his name was triple X. And I was at
Speaker 3: a party with my then husband and I turned to
Speaker 3: him and said, it's striple X. Oh my god, triple X.
Speaker 3: Look at triple X. Come on, let's follow him. He'sil
Speaker 3: around a party going, oh my god, Triplex, look at
Speaker 3: triple X. She doesn't want the tattoo. He doesn't have
Speaker 3: it on his neck, and it was like someone told
Speaker 3: me that the Easter Bunny did not exist. When I
Speaker 3: saw Vin Diesel without the three xes on his neck,
Speaker 3: I was astounded that.
Speaker 1: When he found out it wasn't a documentary, that heartbreaking moment.
Speaker 3: I was so sold some childlike part of my character.
Speaker 1: I love that. Did you talk to him or was
Speaker 1: he scared?
Speaker 3: Awards of my sanity were gone?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did he have to call security? Sharon
Speaker 1: Stone is follow me everywhere shouting, I'm not triple.
Speaker 3: She's bounce on.
Speaker 1: Indeed, she's looking at my neck.
Speaker 3: Was like, what is wrong with you? You it's trouble X.
Speaker 3: He's like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: I really was not expecting that answer, and I'm delighted,
Speaker 1: absolutely delighted sharing What is the film that you used
Speaker 1: to love? You loved it dearly, but you've watched it
Speaker 1: recently and you're going, oh, no, I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason.
Speaker 3: That might be breakfast at Tiffany's.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, talk to.
Speaker 3: Me, Mickey Rooney as this guy. Yes, please, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: It is a shocker when you watch that back.
Speaker 4: Oh out, Oh it's a real like, Oh boy.
Speaker 3: You can't under say that you're not unsea with the
Speaker 3: team the Crossing. Oh oh oh, I have to go
Speaker 3: into the Shredder. That can't even be in the like
Speaker 3: we you know, we clean that movie up and put
Speaker 3: it in the vault for them. That is lovely.
Speaker 1: You can't be in Memoria. No, that's got to go
Speaker 1: in there. This never happened. We don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: That is so true. It's so shocking, and it's such
Speaker 1: a everyone remembers. It's such a lovely film. And then
Speaker 1: you see it and you go, fuck, you know, make
Speaker 1: you stop where Sharon? What is the film that means
Speaker 1: the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is
Speaker 1: any good, but because the experience you had around seeing
Speaker 1: it that will always make it special.
Speaker 3: I started being allowed to go being dropped off at
Speaker 3: movies when I was about fifteen, and I think it
Speaker 3: was I went to see Cleopatrick Jones. Oh wow, And
Speaker 3: I was the only white girl in the theater in
Speaker 3: a little town where you know, we were quite segregated, right,
Speaker 3: And she came on the screen, come on, and she
Speaker 3: was so fabulous, right, And I was in the theater
Speaker 3: like Okay, this is the way to see a movie.
Speaker 3: And I was like okay. And they shot her like
Speaker 3: like the way shot Varushka, like from the ground up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: She was like like this giant goddess. And it was like,
Speaker 3: wait a second. My entire framework is being shifted, my
Speaker 3: reality of life and film and people, and okay, this
Speaker 3: is fantastic, Like this is very important thing for me
Speaker 3: in my life. And my father was very much he
Speaker 3: was a Democrat in a town where the paper was
Speaker 3: the Tribune Republican. You know, he was a very much
Speaker 3: a humanist and you know, but still it's a segregated town,
Speaker 3: there was is this not a diverse This is a
Speaker 3: farm fire. This is like one stoplight town, Amish people, gangsters.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not fascinating. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, multi racial reality, it's big for me.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you must relate to? What
Speaker 1: film do you relate to the most?
Speaker 3: You know, just recently it's a television film. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's a series and it's called Normal People.
Speaker 1: We have been watching that myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really related to that, to.
Speaker 1: Both characters, all the characters.
Speaker 3: Related to the girl. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's a
Speaker 3: more you know, it's a more theatrical character. But I
Speaker 3: related to the girl in that.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you in what way, like when you
Speaker 1: you feel like in the way that she's different, Like, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I was a girl that was writing other people's
Speaker 3: term papers and but still sort of isolated and thought
Speaker 3: I was really unattractive and separate, and then kind of
Speaker 3: reinvented myself and became this other thing. And then the
Speaker 3: other thing wasn't really me either, and then I had
Speaker 3: to sort of figure out how to be the original
Speaker 3: me and make it work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. Thank you. What is the sexiest
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Because I am such a huge Humphrey Bogart him put
Speaker 3: to me is between Casablanca and African Queen, because there's
Speaker 3: just something about that kind of like I like this
Speaker 3: survivalist relationships that are like we're doing it together. We're
Speaker 3: in this and we're in it together, and we're figuring
Speaker 3: out what we're going to do and we're doing it together.
Speaker 3: There's something to me that's very sexy about that. I
Speaker 3: like that partnering through this thing. I always like that
Speaker 3: thing that I think it was Oscar Wilde that said
Speaker 3: that real love is not just looking deeply into each
Speaker 3: other's eyes, but looking outward at the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like I I think that that is it. It's
Speaker 3: not just that ability to look so lovingly at each other,
Speaker 3: but to stand side by side and look at something
Speaker 3: with the same kind of intention. To me, is really sexy.
Speaker 1: That's great, now, Sharon, this next question. You're very classy individual.
Speaker 1: But if I don't ask you this, everyone who listens
Speaker 1: to this podcast will be mad at me for leaving
Speaker 1: this question out. The next question is a subcategory to
Speaker 1: the sexiest film, which is called and Forgive Me. It's
Speaker 1: called Traveling Bonus Worrying Why Dunes. And the question is
Speaker 1: the question is what film did you find sexy that
Speaker 1: you thought perhaps.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't The Heat of the Night?
Speaker 1: Okay, why is that? May I ask?
Speaker 3: Well, it's when Rod Steiger has this confrontation with Sidney
Speaker 3: Poitier and he says to him he's called Virgil. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember the film.
Speaker 1: He says, they tips.
Speaker 3: Right, but but Rodsteiger screams at him, what do they
Speaker 3: call you? Up there? And then he said stands up
Speaker 3: to him and he says, they call me mister TIBs,
Speaker 3: and he did that in that film. I thought, you
Speaker 3: are the sexiest motherfucker I have ever laid eyes on
Speaker 3: in my entire life. I'm dying right now. I can't
Speaker 3: take it. And I oh, and I said, is this
Speaker 3: supposed to be sexy? I don't know what's happening, but like,
Speaker 3: I can't take it. And then in my lifetime I
Speaker 3: got to be friends and have Sidney Poitier be my mentor. Wow,
Speaker 3: I got to work with Rod Steiger in a movie
Speaker 3: and he was a villain and I got to be
Speaker 3: just hate him in the movie and it was so fit. Asked,
Speaker 3: I was like, Yes, this is all working out perfectly.
Speaker 1: For mister Tips. That's great. Sarry. Can I just say
Speaker 1: thank you for letting me ask that question and thank
Speaker 1: you for answering it properly. I appreciate that what is objectively,
Speaker 1: objectively the greatest film of all time? Not necessarily a favorite,
Speaker 1: but objectively for.
Speaker 3: Me, and it is kind of my favorite, but objectively
Speaker 3: to me, I think The Last Emperor and I just
Speaker 3: I feel that Bart Lucy is a spectacular filmmaker and
Speaker 3: it's a great film because it's so well made. And
Speaker 3: it's a great film because it's an historical film. And
Speaker 3: it's a great film because it's a film that stands
Speaker 3: the test of time. It's a great film because children
Speaker 3: can watch it, adults can watch it. It's a beautiful film.
Speaker 3: I really I heard that film as a filmmaker. I
Speaker 3: love that film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, No one has picked that on
Speaker 1: this show. And it's brilliant. Such a good film. Film.
Speaker 1: Tell me this, what film have you or could you
Speaker 1: watch the most over and over again?
Speaker 3: I do watch over and over again. Cabaret. It's a
Speaker 3: great film on so many levels. It's a great film
Speaker 3: because of the way it tells such a horrific story.
Speaker 3: Is a great film because the costumes are insane, the
Speaker 3: performances are insane, and the stories within the big story
Speaker 3: are very important. The stories of racism, the stories of homophobia,
Speaker 3: the stories of class realities, the stories of the period
Speaker 3: and the time, this just the stories of greed. Everything
Speaker 3: within the story is fantastic. All the elements are so beautiful.
Speaker 3: The costumes are magnificent, the makeup is incredible, and the
Speaker 3: sense of the surialistic sense of the way he cut
Speaker 3: and shot it almost creates a magical realism on the screen.
Speaker 3: I find it to be a spectacularly made film and
Speaker 3: a film that whether you're German or American, you look
Speaker 3: at and think, yes, it was incredibly nuts, that it
Speaker 3: was nuts, that war was nuts. And the music is beautiful.
Speaker 3: The score is spectacular. The words, the lyrics to the
Speaker 3: music are beautiful. The dancing is Bob Fosse's kind of
Speaker 3: dancing is just speaks of volumes to the story he
Speaker 3: was telling. I just think it's overall just so well done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking great film. I think about a lot that's
Speaker 1: at the moment, where is it the song the Future
Speaker 1: belongs to Me? And you only see this swastika right
Speaker 1: at the end. It's so brilliant. It's a brilliant. It's
Speaker 1: really profound that film. I know this sexual fluidity. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's got it.
Speaker 3: The movie is very mallifluous. But when he s does
Speaker 3: the Future belongs to Me? They're very crisp, very clean.
Speaker 3: There's so much they're the clean people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very clean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, be scared, right.
Speaker 1: We don't like to be too negative, but we'll do
Speaker 1: this quickly. What's the worst film you ever see? How
Speaker 1: dare you. I love that film is a masterpiece. Anaconda
Speaker 1: is the Triplex of snake films. Anaconda is great and
Speaker 1: it's got John Voyd doing faces j LO. It's great. Well,
Speaker 1: could you possibly not like about? Okay? Fair enough? Right,
Speaker 1: you're a funny person. What is the funniest film you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? Correct? It's just brilliant.
Speaker 3: Nothing is funnier than when they're crapping in the street.
Speaker 1: And it's so beautifully shot as well.
Speaker 3: Or when Melissa McCarthy puts her leg up in the airplane.
Speaker 3: I just that when she put her leg up, I
Speaker 3: just I don't know what it is about that, but
Speaker 3: that's the funniest move. She's so funny when she just
Speaker 3: starts telling someone that how awful they are, that's my
Speaker 3: funniest for I just.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's really really special.
Speaker 3: Of her.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Can ask you a question you
Speaker 1: might not have an answer and that and it's not
Speaker 1: on your list. Do you have a favorite of your
Speaker 1: own films? Of the films that you've been in? Do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite?
Speaker 3: I have things that I like about different ones for
Speaker 3: different reasons, you know. I mean, obviously, Casino I think
Speaker 3: is the certainly overall the best film I've I've been in,
Speaker 3: and it's it's just the best, and it stands the
Speaker 3: test of time. And you can watch it with without sound,
Speaker 3: as you can with any Scorsese film, because Thelma Schumancher
Speaker 3: is the greatest editor of and the film she edited,
Speaker 3: you know, for Deceased Husband or also Michael Powell fabulous,
Speaker 3: So the editing is really something, and you can watch
Speaker 3: it to music, you know. I think if you watch listen,
Speaker 3: particularly if you put on Maria Callous and listen to
Speaker 3: any of his films, I think you see there's quite
Speaker 3: good to Callous. There's a certain deep authenticity of this
Speaker 3: operatic form that those films are very good too. So
Speaker 3: I think that. But of course I really enjoyed The
Speaker 3: Muse because I think Albert Brooks is so special, really
Speaker 3: so smart and so special. I just love him. I
Speaker 3: did very much like making Lovelace. I thought that this
Speaker 3: was these writers. They had done the Harvey Milk story,
Speaker 3: and I think they really understood how to make an
Speaker 3: independent film. And I thought that this was a sound
Speaker 3: independent film that told a very interesting story. I thought
Speaker 3: it was quite a good story and a powerful story.
Speaker 3: I thought the actors were good in it. And when
Speaker 3: I worked with Jim Jerremotion Broken Flowers again, same thing.
Speaker 3: I thought that good. See such a terrific independent director.
Speaker 3: He knows how to make a good independent film, not
Speaker 3: seeking the big audience, telling us particular type of story.
Speaker 3: I think he's very good. I thought that was in
Speaker 3: its genre, quite quite a good film.
Speaker 1: I love you in the in the Bob Dylan film,
Speaker 1: but I guess you probably can't talk about that. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a mockumentary and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so good at it.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, all of us are in the film,
Speaker 3: do know, Bob, Okay, that's why we were chosen to
Speaker 3: be in the film. Okay, great, we all have very
Speaker 3: discrete relationships that we would never never exploit. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: we got to do this film in the same way.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such an amazing performance. Completely you're just like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real, that's completely real.
Speaker 3: I mean I can make it for me because I
Speaker 3: love him and I think he's the greatest songwriter. I
Speaker 3: think he's the greatest poet since you know, Socrates, Plato,
Speaker 3: and I genuinely believe that it's it's real to me,
Speaker 3: and I find him to genuinely be that descent of
Speaker 3: a human being, and so that's my truth.
Speaker 1: I love it. Sstin what's your favorite film? And it
Speaker 1: might be different from what you think is the greatest film.
Speaker 3: My favorite film is The jungle Book, the original jungle Book,
Speaker 3: the animated jungle Book. Those musicians the Jungle Book were
Speaker 3: the truly great musicians of that time. And George Saunders
Speaker 3: as the cat who when he committed suicide, his note
Speaker 3: was on nui that he had on. Now I've already
Speaker 3: thought that he was the cat's pajamas. These weird movies
Speaker 3: like The Portrait of Durian Gray by that amazing director
Speaker 3: that did those two movies, the Portrait of Dorian Gray
Speaker 3: and Pandora's Box, which are two fantastic movie because I
Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen Pandora's Box. That's Abe Gardner
Speaker 3: and James with this fantastic voice, the English James. Yes,
Speaker 3: and she only made and it was a woman director
Speaker 3: and she only made two fantastic films. And the Portrait
Speaker 3: of Dorian Gray is George Saunders again, who I just thought,
Speaker 3: why was it I alive to hang out with Foots
Speaker 3: because I know that we would have been best friends,
Speaker 3: and he would have killed himself out of boredom because
Speaker 3: we would have laughed so much. I know it.
Speaker 1: But you were, you were alive to be in the
Speaker 1: era of Triple.
Speaker 3: X killed himself on me. Jesus that even funny, like
Speaker 3: his suicide note was a joke. I can't take it.
Speaker 1: That's really good. So listen, Sharon, you have been beyond brilliant. However, yes,
Speaker 1: when you died the next time by being picked up
Speaker 1: by some aliens and taken to a new energy force
Speaker 1: that you were adapted to, your soul adapted to. But
Speaker 1: your body was left behind where you were standing, which
Speaker 1: was just on the street, and I was walking past,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what's happened here? And I was like,
Speaker 1: she's been struck by lighting again? What is going on?
Speaker 1: And I touched you and it was like, she's still
Speaker 1: got electricity in what we're going to do anyway? I
Speaker 1: got this coffin. I'll put you in the coffin. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, because of all the electricity and stuff,
Speaker 1: there was like lots of you attracted layers of metal,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot yeah, so there was a lot
Speaker 1: more of you than that plan. Exactly, I'll put camera,
Speaker 1: You're taken one DVDA to her. You're going to take
Speaker 1: cabret Yeah, okay, they're going to have a writ out
Speaker 1: time up there with you.
Speaker 3: Because we have it, we can watch the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we can have a good time, arguments.
Speaker 1: You can all of it. Now, listen. That is the
Speaker 1: that brings us to the end. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: you would like to tell people to look out for
Speaker 1: that you're going to be in or to listen to,
Speaker 1: or anything you want people to know about.
Speaker 3: Well, if you like Ryan Murphy, I'm going to be
Speaker 3: in the Ryan Murphy series starring Sarah Paulson, Judy Davis,
Speaker 3: Cynthia Nixon. Me in September on Netflix. Ratchet Ratchet and
Speaker 3: it's the pre story of nurs.
Speaker 1: Ratchet.
Speaker 3: No, Sarah's Ratchet, you even more villainous.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. Sara's Stone, you have been an absolute delay
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much and
Speaker 1: enjoy your next live.
Speaker 2: So that was Sharon Stone on a rewind Classic episode.
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Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Sharon for her time and
Speaker 2: presence on the podcast. Thanks to Scrubia's Pip and the
Speaker 2: Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to and this is where Brett
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Speaker 2: Richardson for the graphics and Lisalidm for the photography. We'll
Speaker 2: be back next week with another rewind classic. But that
Speaker 2: is it for now. Brett and I hope you're all well,
Speaker 2: and in the meantime, have a lovely week and now,
Speaker 2: more than ever, be excellent to each other.