WEBVTT - BREAKING: 2 Separate “Active Shooter” Situations End with Attackers Dead; Investigations Underway 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, March twelfth, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have two breaking news stories we're keeping an eye on,

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<v Speaker 1>one in Virginia the other in Michigan, both having to

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<v Speaker 1>do with attacks of some kind at both places, one

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<v Speaker 1>at a university, the other at a synagogue. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode of Amy and TJ. Rhoades. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the synagogue, and we will this school we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>as Old Dominion. We will get to that story as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But these stories are happening and developing in the last

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<v Speaker 1>matter of minutes. But let's start with the synagogue robes,

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<v Speaker 1>where it doesn't look like anybody was actually killed there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like this potentially could have been a

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<v Speaker 1>major attack.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been horrific.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a synagogue that had young children being schooled.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Temple Israel Synagogue and West bloom Field, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 3>and this was quite the same. But it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>it's a situation where security was on alert, they were

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<v Speaker 3>on top of things, and they ended what could have been,

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<v Speaker 3>as you pointed out, a horrific tragedy where at this

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<v Speaker 3>point the only person in this attack who was killed

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<v Speaker 3>was the person trying to attack.

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<v Speaker 1>This in agog, and some questions surrounding that about how

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<v Speaker 1>this person died and rope you stopped me in. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking at the same reports and piecing information together,

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<v Speaker 1>but it appears this man had a rifle correct, but

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<v Speaker 1>never got off a shot. What they're explaining here to us,

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<v Speaker 1>this person rammed the synagogue with his vehicle and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to essentially drive the vehicle through the synagogue through

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a hallway, eventually stopped was stopped by security, as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, who essentially opened fire on them, but robed

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<v Speaker 1>A fire of some kind breaks out inside the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that might be the way the man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how he died yet exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So some headlines because these are now just initial reports

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<v Speaker 3>and this is a developing story. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the video and the pictures coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>this area in Michigan, the amount of police on the

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<v Speaker 3>scene is remarkable. But yes, they say the vehicle caught fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the headlines say that he was shot by security,

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<v Speaker 3>fatally shot by security, and we know that he was

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<v Speaker 3>shot at by security, but the vehicles certainly caught fire,

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<v Speaker 3>so they don't know if the fire ended up taking

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<v Speaker 3>his life or if he was actually shot to death.

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<v Speaker 3>But either way, he was in the vehicle when it

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<v Speaker 3>caught on fire. So we don't know if there were

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<v Speaker 3>explosives in the vehicle. We don't know why the vehicle

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<v Speaker 3>caught fire simply because shots were fired.

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<v Speaker 1>So that right now is the question we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most of us generally know. It doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>with cars the way it happens in movies. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>just thump it and a car explodes. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get a car to just simply catch fire. So what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in there? And that is a major

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<v Speaker 1>question and a scary robes to consider what he might

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<v Speaker 1>have had in the vehicle, which lends himself to what

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<v Speaker 1>he might have been thinking and what he might have

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<v Speaker 1>been planning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct, because if you look at some of the

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<v Speaker 3>images that are coming out of this area near this

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<v Speaker 3>synagogue near Detroit by the way, if you aren't familiar

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<v Speaker 3>where West Bloomfield is, there was this huge plume of

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<v Speaker 3>smoke coming up from the synagogue. That's how big this

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<v Speaker 3>car fire or this explosion was, and so it could

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<v Speaker 3>be seen from miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously, when you look at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Amount of police that have descended on this area. There

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<v Speaker 3>are clearly bigger concerns of what was inside that vehicle,

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<v Speaker 3>What is inside that vehicle. This isn't just oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the active shooter situation has been diminished, the attacker is

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<v Speaker 3>dead and police are on the scene. This looks like

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<v Speaker 3>this is an on going serious situation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an incredible police response. We're looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the live pictures right now, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is an enormous response. Here a press conference a short

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<v Speaker 1>time ago with some local officials, law enforcement officials who said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't handed over the scene. They essentially have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through and make sure there are no incendiary device.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that, yeah, to make sure there aren't any there.

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<v Speaker 1>So again and again you have been now rogues, I

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<v Speaker 1>should We've been looking again. This is fast moving, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've been looking at some of the conversation. Again, we

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<v Speaker 1>know it's going to go here. But the concern right

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<v Speaker 1>now is a lot of it. We see the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of bombs and missiles flying other places, but the concern

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<v Speaker 1>is that makes its way to us in some way

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<v Speaker 1>and people get inspired and want to attack.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, because we actually heard from Iranian clerics and certain

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<v Speaker 3>islam clerics inciting this war, saying our brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 3>around the world, attack the enemy aka the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>in any way you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to have a synagogue.

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<v Speaker 3>A Jewish place of worship targeted in Michigan, which which

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<v Speaker 3>is a hot bed of activity. But this is a

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<v Speaker 3>huge synagogue, twelve thousand members. And again attached to the

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<v Speaker 3>synagogue was an early childhood education center. And when this

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<v Speaker 3>happened with the okay by police, there were images of parents,

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<v Speaker 3>as you might imagine. I get chills just thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>it and seeing it, rushing into that building getting their kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fear and the chaos that ensued.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are reports now that there were mortars, some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of bomblike material, bomblike devices possibly inside this car.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is why we are seeing this ongoing increasing

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<v Speaker 3>police presence around the synagogu.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's a sprawling place. It is a huge campus,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, what we're looking at here, But that

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<v Speaker 1>concern robes is going to be there, that conversation will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gotten word that yes, the president is aware of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here. According to the press Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>the President is aware, but we have seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>places all over the country. Already, certain sites are getting

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<v Speaker 1>an extra level of protection because of the concern of

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<v Speaker 1>things like this. And as we look at these pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these I don't think this picture is live anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but still you have smoke coming out of this place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to understand what has caused that. Sob you,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a situation where there might still be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to clear a building and can't necessarily get to it

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<v Speaker 1>yet because it's not safe.

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<v Speaker 3>That vehicle is still in the buildings, and that vehicle

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<v Speaker 3>is what exploded. That vehicle is what caught fire, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is why we're seeing that smoke coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>that synagogue. So imagine trying to you don't know completely

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<v Speaker 3>what's in that vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what still could possibly explode. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the car has been booby trapped in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have to proceed with caution, but they also

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<v Speaker 3>have to proceed with urgency. This is a frightening situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is exactly what folks have been concerned about,

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<v Speaker 3>especially folks who are Jewish, who are concerned about Look,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a US Israel led invasion on Iran, So

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<v Speaker 3>it would make sense that potentially it could be linked

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<v Speaker 3>to what we're seeing here, this attack, with what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you tell me the number you said there was

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<v Speaker 1>a count, a stat of how many synagogues have been attacked?

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<v Speaker 3>You tell me, yes, I just saw a headline that

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<v Speaker 3>five synagogues have been attacked in just the last five days.

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<v Speaker 3>So there have been synagogues targeted and attacked around the

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<v Speaker 3>world since the invasion of Iran. I shouldn't say invasion,

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<v Speaker 3>but the attack of iran't we don't have boots on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, but the attack on Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, boy, get ahead of us, please, But that I

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<v Speaker 1>did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a slip of.

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<v Speaker 1>The top, all right. So that is one ongoing that

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<v Speaker 1>is a right now. That is a many by many

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<v Speaker 1>getting updates on that story. The other is happening in Norfolk,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia at the campus of Old Dominion University, where we

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<v Speaker 1>were getting reports and these are always robes. They are

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<v Speaker 1>scared as hell when you see them, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us have been that kid on campus, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us have kids on campus. But anytime you see

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<v Speaker 1>that a school is in lockdown and there's possibly an

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<v Speaker 1>active shooter situation, any type of shoot on a campus

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<v Speaker 1>that is certainly concerning. Stay here will give you the

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<v Speaker 1>latest about what is happening on the campus of Old

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<v Speaker 1>Dominion University.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back everyone, as we continue to monitor to developing situations.

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<v Speaker 3>We just told you about the situation that is ongoing

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<v Speaker 3>and in absolutely still developing as we record this out

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<v Speaker 3>of just outside of Detroit, Michigan, where a synagogue was

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<v Speaker 3>rammed and the attacker inside that vehicle was armed with

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<v Speaker 3>a rifle. That car has caught on fire and now

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<v Speaker 3>we have a massive police presence as that it would

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<v Speaker 3>be attacker has been killed, but they still have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to go through it determining if that car is

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<v Speaker 3>still at any risk to the folks around the area

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<v Speaker 3>inside that synagogue.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a developing situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So far, thankfully no one inside the synagogue was injured.

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<v Speaker 3>The security there was able to take out or at

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<v Speaker 3>least stop the would be attacker, and so that investigation

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<v Speaker 3>is ongoing. But just across the country in Virginia, just

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<v Speaker 3>shortly before that incident happened, we now know a gunman

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<v Speaker 3>opened fire at Old Dominion University.

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<v Speaker 2>In Constant Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks, I don't know exactly if it was a dorm

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<v Speaker 3>or if it was some sort of a meeting place.

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<v Speaker 3>But we know that some students who were inside that

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<v Speaker 3>hall said they were taking tests or they were studying

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<v Speaker 3>when gunfire rang out around just before eleven am Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know that one person was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that two others were injured, and we've been

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<v Speaker 3>told that the gunman is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we have at this point, but that that

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<v Speaker 1>campus was shut down on lockdown. They have given the

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<v Speaker 1>students the all clear. But again that's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where we don't know what the relationship was between

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<v Speaker 1>any of these folks. Where it's supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger event. Is this a target event? They haven't and

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<v Speaker 1>I have not seen that. Again, this is developing also

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<v Speaker 1>in the past matter of hours, so please tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the suggestion yet whether or not this

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<v Speaker 1>was targeted or what this was meant to be possibly

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, officials seem to be completely unsure as to

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<v Speaker 3>what motivated this shooting, and they are actively investigating it.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they have suspended canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>All classes, as you might imagine at Old Dominion, not

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<v Speaker 3>only for today, but for tomorrow as well as they

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<v Speaker 3>continue to try and put the pieces together of what

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<v Speaker 3>exactly happened.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a press conference a short while.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, but they really are unclear as to exactly why

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<v Speaker 3>this happened, how this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But they and they don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They do not know if this was a targeted attack

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<v Speaker 3>or not, but they do believe the latest information is

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<v Speaker 3>that the gunman may have taken his own life. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't appear as though security or police on the scene

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<v Speaker 3>were the ones to take out this shooter. They do

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<v Speaker 3>believe it was a self inflicted gunshot wound. But after

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<v Speaker 3>he killed one person and injured to others, now there

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<v Speaker 3>is there's someone actually was injured. It's a little confusing,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's another being carried away by police and they

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<v Speaker 3>show somebody. There's a video out there online of someone

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<v Speaker 3>in handcuffs being taken away from the scene. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that has anything to do with the shooting

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<v Speaker 3>or not, but a lot of folks are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what could have happened, what did happened on

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<v Speaker 3>this campus. But this is a developing situation and the

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<v Speaker 3>FBI is.

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<v Speaker 2>At both scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>Cash Bettel is making comments on both scenes, saying our

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<v Speaker 3>agents are aware, our agents are aiding in the investigations,

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<v Speaker 3>but these are early stages, and just with the state

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<v Speaker 3>of things in the world right now, it's just it.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels chaotic, it feels frightening.

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<v Speaker 3>We hear about potential attacks in California, and now you've

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<v Speaker 3>got these target attacks potentially or at least smaller attacks

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<v Speaker 3>that are just as scary. I mean, kids going to school,

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<v Speaker 3>young ones going to learn at a synagogue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it just feels like at this point everyone is just

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<v Speaker 3>on edge given these developing stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, folks who just wanted to hop on and give

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<v Speaker 1>you those updates, had two developing stories and they are

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