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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, March twelfth, and we

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Speaker 1: have two breaking news stories we're keeping an eye on,

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Speaker 1: do with attacks of some kind at both places, one

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Speaker 1: at a university, the other at a synagogue. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. Rhoades. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the synagogue, and we will this school we're talking about

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Speaker 1: as Old Dominion. We will get to that story as well.

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Speaker 1: But these stories are happening and developing in the last

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Speaker 1: matter of minutes. But let's start with the synagogue robes,

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Speaker 1: where it doesn't look like anybody was actually killed there,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like this potentially could have been a

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Speaker 1: major attack.

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Speaker 2: It could have been horrific.

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Speaker 3: This is a synagogue that had young children being schooled.

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Speaker 3: This is Temple Israel Synagogue and West bloom Field, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and this was quite the same. But it looks like

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Speaker 3: it's a situation where security was on alert, they were

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Speaker 3: on top of things, and they ended what could have been,

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Speaker 3: as you pointed out, a horrific tragedy where at this

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Speaker 3: point the only person in this attack who was killed

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Speaker 3: was the person trying to attack.

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Speaker 1: This in agog, and some questions surrounding that about how

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Speaker 1: this person died and rope you stopped me in. We've

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Speaker 1: been looking at the same reports and piecing information together,

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Speaker 1: but it appears this man had a rifle correct, but

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Speaker 1: never got off a shot. What they're explaining here to us,

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Speaker 1: this person rammed the synagogue with his vehicle and was

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, who essentially opened fire on them, but robed

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Speaker 1: A fire of some kind breaks out inside the vehicle,

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Speaker 1: and they think that might be the way the man.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how he died yet exactly.

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Speaker 3: So some headlines because these are now just initial reports

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Speaker 3: and this is a developing story. I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: this area in Michigan, the amount of police on the

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Speaker 3: scene is remarkable. But yes, they say the vehicle caught fire.

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Speaker 3: Some of the headlines say that he was shot by security,

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Speaker 3: fatally shot by security, and we know that he was

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Speaker 3: so they don't know if the fire ended up taking

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Speaker 3: But either way, he was in the vehicle when it

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Speaker 1: So that right now is the question we all know.

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Speaker 1: I think most of us generally know. It doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: get a car to just simply catch fire. So what

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Speaker 1: was going on in there? And that is a major

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Speaker 1: he might have been thinking and what he might have

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Speaker 3: That's correct, because if you look at some of the

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Speaker 3: where West Bloomfield is, there was this huge plume of

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Speaker 2: So obviously, when you look at the.

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Speaker 3: Amount of police that have descended on this area. There

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Speaker 3: What is inside that vehicle. This isn't just oh okay,

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Speaker 3: the active shooter situation has been diminished, the attacker is

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Speaker 1: This is an incredible police response. We're looking at it

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Speaker 1: time ago with some local officials, law enforcement officials who said, no,

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Speaker 1: He said that, yeah, to make sure there aren't any there.

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Speaker 1: So again and again you have been now rogues, I

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Speaker 3: Correct, because we actually heard from Iranian clerics and certain

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Speaker 3: islam clerics inciting this war, saying our brothers and sisters

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Speaker 2: And so to have a synagogue.

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Speaker 3: A Jewish place of worship targeted in Michigan, which which

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Speaker 3: is a hot bed of activity. But this is a

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Speaker 3: huge synagogue, twelve thousand members. And again attached to the

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Speaker 3: synagogue was an early childhood education center. And when this

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Speaker 3: as you might imagine. I get chills just thinking about

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Speaker 2: I mean, the fear and the chaos that ensued.

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Speaker 3: But there are reports now that there were mortars, some

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Speaker 3: And that is why we are seeing this ongoing increasing

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's a sprawling place. It is a huge campus,

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Speaker 1: if you will, what we're looking at here, But that

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Speaker 1: We've gotten word that yes, the president is aware of

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Speaker 1: what's going on here. According to the press Secretary of

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Speaker 1: the President is aware, but we have seen it in

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Speaker 1: places all over the country. Already, certain sites are getting

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Speaker 1: an extra level of protection because of the concern of

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Speaker 1: things like this. And as we look at these pictures,

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Speaker 1: some of these I don't think this picture is live anymore,

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Speaker 1: but still you have smoke coming out of this place.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to understand what has caused that. Sob you,

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Speaker 1: we're in a situation where there might still be trying

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Speaker 3: That vehicle is still in the buildings, and that vehicle

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Speaker 3: is what exploded. That vehicle is what caught fire, and

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Speaker 3: that is why we're seeing that smoke coming out of

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Speaker 3: that synagogue. So imagine trying to you don't know completely

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Speaker 2: You don't know what still could possibly explode. You don't

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Speaker 2: know if the car has been booby trapped in any way.

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Speaker 3: So they have to proceed with caution, but they also

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Speaker 3: have to proceed with urgency. This is a frightening situation,

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Speaker 3: and this is exactly what folks have been concerned about,

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Speaker 3: especially folks who are Jewish, who are concerned about Look,

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Speaker 3: it would make sense that potentially it could be linked

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Speaker 1: Would you tell me the number you said there was

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Speaker 1: a count, a stat of how many synagogues have been attacked?

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Speaker 3: You tell me, yes, I just saw a headline that

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Speaker 3: five synagogues have been attacked in just the last five days.

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Speaker 3: So there have been synagogues targeted and attacked around the

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Speaker 3: world since the invasion of Iran. I shouldn't say invasion,

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Speaker 3: but the attack of iran't we don't have boots on

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Speaker 1: Oh, boy, get ahead of us, please, But that I

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Speaker 2: I was a slip of.

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Speaker 1: The top, all right. So that is one ongoing that

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Speaker 1: is a right now. That is a many by many

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Speaker 1: getting updates on that story. The other is happening in Norfolk,

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Speaker 1: Virginia at the campus of Old Dominion University, where we

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Speaker 1: were getting reports and these are always robes. They are

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Speaker 1: of us have been that kid on campus, A lot

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone, as we continue to monitor to developing situations.

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Speaker 3: We just told you about the situation that is ongoing

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Speaker 3: and in absolutely still developing as we record this out

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Speaker 3: of just outside of Detroit, Michigan, where a synagogue was

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Speaker 3: rammed and the attacker inside that vehicle was armed with

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Speaker 3: we have a massive police presence as that it would

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Speaker 2: It is a developing situation.

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Speaker 3: So far, thankfully no one inside the synagogue was injured.

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Speaker 3: The security there was able to take out or at

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Speaker 3: least stop the would be attacker, and so that investigation

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Speaker 3: is ongoing. But just across the country in Virginia, just

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Speaker 3: shortly before that incident happened, we now know a gunman

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Speaker 2: In Constant Hall.

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Speaker 3: Folks, I don't know exactly if it was a dorm

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Speaker 3: But we know that some students who were inside that

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Speaker 2: And we know that one person was killed.

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Speaker 1: That's all we have at this point, but that that

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Speaker 1: bigger event. Is this a target event? They haven't and

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Speaker 1: I have not seen that. Again, this is developing also

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the suggestion yet whether or not this

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Speaker 3: Right now, officials seem to be completely unsure as to

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Speaker 2: In fact, they have suspended canceled.

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Speaker 3: All classes, as you might imagine at Old Dominion, not

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Speaker 3: only for today, but for tomorrow as well as they

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Speaker 2: They had a press conference a short while.

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Speaker 3: Ago, but they really are unclear as to exactly why

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Speaker 2: But they and they don't know.

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Speaker 3: They do not know if this was a targeted attack

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Speaker 3: or not, but they do believe the latest information is

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Speaker 3: that the gunman may have taken his own life. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't appear as though security or police on the scene

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Speaker 3: believe it was a self inflicted gunshot wound. But after

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Speaker 3: is there's someone actually was injured. It's a little confusing,

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