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Speaker 4: It is the first show of the new year, comes

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Speaker 4: two days after the regular season finale and one day

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Speaker 4: after the first of what is expected to be several

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Speaker 4: changes within the Arizona Cardinals organization as the team tries

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Speaker 4: to distance themselves as much as possible from a three

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Speaker 4: and fourteen twenty twenty five campaign. But before we dive

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Speaker 4: into that, so, how you doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm good, Yeah, I'm doing well. Things are good. Happy

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Speaker 5: new year to everybody. You know, I've missed you the

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Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. But yeah, I don't have any complaints.

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Speaker 5: Everything is great, man, I'm doing well, kids are well,

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Speaker 5: wife is healthy.

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Speaker 6: That's all that matters.

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Speaker 5: The end of the day, we were rocking and rolling,

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Speaker 5: you know, getting back into this Exos that's coming up.

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Speaker 5: I know, that's what you know, a lot of people

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Speaker 5: gonna be looking forward to, as well as you know,

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Speaker 5: the combine and all that hoop glott that goes into that,

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Speaker 5: you know, especially after this season that the Cardinals just had,

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Speaker 5: you know, where can we add talent? So I'll be

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Speaker 5: doing that over the next six weeks or so, training

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Speaker 5: guys over at Exos.

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Speaker 6: So I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 4: Paul needs some work done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, speaking of, I gotta start getting

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Speaker 3: back into it, you know, New Year's resolutionists, you know,

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Speaker 3: start hitting the gym again. You know, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know you're looking at me, you're saying, no, well, wait

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Speaker 3: a minute, what do you mean again. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: a constant my life. But yeah, you know, there should

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Speaker 3: be a section of the gym for the New Year's resolutionists,

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Speaker 3: and it's full in January and by March, it's empty.

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Speaker 3: They should just have that designate. It's sort of roped

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Speaker 4: It's probably already empty, or maybe even late January for

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Speaker 3: Unlike yourself. Of course, Paul, I would not be in

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned the.

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Speaker 4: Constant New Year's resolutions. Well here's another constant National Football

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Speaker 4: League stands for not for long. Change is inevitable, whether

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Speaker 4: that's the front office, coaching staff, or roster. And as

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Speaker 4: I mentioned or alluded to off the top, the Arizona

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Speaker 4: Cardinals have made their first decision, and that is to

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Speaker 4: fire head coach Jonathan Gannon after three seasons. As Paul

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Speaker 4: and I discussed on Monday's Cardinals Cover two, it's always

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Speaker 4: even though, whether you expect or not expect change, it's

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Speaker 5: Long, exactly right. And I was, I mean I was

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Speaker 5: I didn't think he JG wouldn't be here this week.

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Speaker 5: I thought he would have another season, all the injuries,

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Speaker 5: you have to look at wins and losses, and even

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Speaker 5: though you have all that, because everybody has to deal

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Speaker 3: Just the what, it's the how, it's the why. It's

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Speaker 3: But you did see, to Zoe's point, a lack of

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Speaker 5: You know, it was a lot of young assistant coaches

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just the what, it's not just the how.

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Speaker 3: It's the where. On the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: it's against, teams your division, and obviously there is a

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Speaker 3: So for all those reasons you can understand why the

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Speaker 3: decision was made. Let's take you back to Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: the announcement, the press release just before ten am, the

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Speaker 7: We spoke with Jonathan Gannon and let them know that

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Speaker 7: we're going to go in a different direction with our

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Speaker 7: you all know, this is a league about wins and losses.

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Speaker 7: The wins and losses speak for themselves. Especially this year,

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Speaker 7: we just felt like we were going in the wrong

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Speaker 4: Simply said didn't win enough, and you look at the

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Speaker 4: overall record Jonathan Gannon fifteen and thirty six within the division.

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Speaker 4: You talked about it, Paul three and fifteen, winless this season,

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Speaker 4: in fact, winless against the division in two of his

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Speaker 4: as much as we all liked and respected what Jonathan

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Speaker 4: by what your one loss record is, and being twenty

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Speaker 4: one games under five hundred typically doesn't get you a

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Speaker 3: And you could argue, okay, wait a minute, when the

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Speaker 3: Weeks three and four, they battled the Niners and Seahawks

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Speaker 3: the counter argument would be, guess what rarely is an

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Speaker 3: You might start out one team like the Colts Tampa

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Speaker 3: They're rolling right now, So what direction are you going in?

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Speaker 3: And those last four games within the division were not close.

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Speaker 3: And so just whether it's the eyeball test or the film,

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Speaker 4: One more from Michael on what went into the decision

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Speaker 7: We want to win. This was a decision that was

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Speaker 7: teams have done, and frankly, historically we've done a quick

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Speaker 4: You listen to that, Zoe, and when you hear the

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Speaker 4: owners say there is the potential of a quick turnaround,

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Speaker 4: and then without naming teams, you look at, okay, whether

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots. Now the Patriots didn't have a first

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Speaker 4: Even a year ago Mike McDonald, without making the playoffs

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Speaker 4: is examples of why you can understand why ownership would say,

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Speaker 5: For sure, he's experienced it too, you know, he was

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Speaker 5: alluding to when Bruce arians came in. I was a

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Speaker 5: part of that change as well in twenty thirteen, and

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Speaker 7: We were going in the wrong direction. It seemed like

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Speaker 5: Correct, And I think it has to be someone that

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Speaker 8: First and foremost, we're looking for a strong leader being

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Speaker 5: miss here is that, and I had a couple of

438
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Speaker 5: other words to a head coach. I want them to

439
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Speaker 5: be transparent. I want to know what are we doing.

440
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Speaker 5: I need you to be able to communicate that clearly, authentic,

441
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Speaker 5: and then I need you to be consistent with that.

442
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Speaker 5: Right and as a player, I can believe in that,

443
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Speaker 5: I can trust it from an organizational process, as they

444
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Speaker 5: go through this, they also have to make sure that

445
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Speaker 5: I know this word with the sun right alignment right

446
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 5: is key, right, because I've been in organizations where head

447
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 5: coach has a vision, GM has a vision, ownership has

448
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Speaker 5: a vision, and it's chaotic, and that is the worst

449
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Speaker 5: place you ever want to be in because now you

450
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Speaker 5: have like this power struggling dynamic. Right, everybody has to

451
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Speaker 5: have their laying that they live in and respect for

452
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Speaker 5: everybody else's job and work collectively regardless.

453
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Speaker 6: Of your title.

454
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Speaker 5: Right because obviously ownership at the end of the day

455
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Speaker 5: has to ultimately say so. But he's not necessarily expert

456
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Speaker 5: in coaching or maybe evaluating talent, has to allow the

457
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Speaker 5: people that he hires to do their job as well,

458
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Speaker 5: and they collectively have to have tough conversations but come

459
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Speaker 5: out working in the same direction. And not having side

460
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Speaker 5: conversations and silos because I've been a part of those

461
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Speaker 5: chaotic organizations whereas just everybody can feel it, it doesn't

462
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 5: work and you end up getting a similar product of

463
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Speaker 5: what we just saw in this three and fourteen season,

464
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Speaker 5: which I've been a three to thirteen and I'm talking

465
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Speaker 5: about when I was in Washington.

466
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Speaker 6: When I came.

467
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Speaker 5: Here, it was really the first time where I saw

468
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Speaker 5: BA Steve Michael. I saw like a healthy relationship between

469
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Speaker 5: all three and you saw what that did for the

470
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Speaker 5: organization because everybody can feel it from top down, which

471
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Speaker 5: really works. And then you also have to have that

472
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Speaker 5: within the coaching staff. You know, defensive coordinator, office, accordator,

473
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Speaker 5: all these coaches that are in align with the overall vision.

474
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Speaker 5: And that takes human resources well, because we just talked

475
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Speaker 5: about he we need to develop young guys. We got

476
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Speaker 5: to come up with the best office. We've got to

477
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Speaker 5: be able to do this. We got to have the

478
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Speaker 5: best training staff, We've got to do all these things.

479
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Speaker 5: The head coach is yes, he's going to create that vision,

480
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Speaker 5: then you also need a significant support staff to be

481
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Speaker 5: able to act that out or execute that on a

482
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Speaker 5: day to day basis. From developing young players, developing offensive defensely,

483
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Speaker 5: obviously getting stronger in the off season, staying healthy with

484
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Speaker 5: the medical staff. All those things have to be elite

485
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Speaker 5: in order to support an elite product that we want

486
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Speaker 5: to see on the field.

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Speaker 6: As well.

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Speaker 4: Five other head coach openings as well. As far as

489
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Speaker 4: you talk about competition on the field, there's also competition

490
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Speaker 4: off the field amongst the different teams Falcons, Giants, Browns,

491
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Speaker 4: Raiders and Titans all looking for head coaches.

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Speaker 3: Interesting to see Cliff Kingsbury parting ways with Washington today

493
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Speaker 3: and he reports already saying he's gonna interview for the

494
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Speaker 3: head coaching gig in Tennessee. I could see Cliff in Nashville.

495
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Speaker 3: I could definitely see that Brian Flores a lot of

496
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Speaker 3: noise out there about him rejoining Tom Brady as part

497
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Speaker 3: of the Raiders head coach. Brian bringing Brian Dable another

498
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Speaker 3: new England guy there to be the offensive coordinator that

499
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Speaker 3: has intrigued in it, no doubt about it. So you

500
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Speaker 3: can see some of these different directions. But as Zoe said,

501
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Speaker 3: you know these different entities you know, might have their

502
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Speaker 3: own lane, they have to be going the same direction. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 3: you can't have one guy going east west, north south.

504
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Speaker 3: So if they're all going in the same direction, Okay,

505
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Speaker 3: now you have a fighting chance.

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Speaker 4: What's attractive about the Arizona Cardinals job two names, Trey McBride,

507
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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. We'll discuss those two next here on the

508
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Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals. Right do a network.

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Speaker 2: For set throws over the middle.

510
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Speaker 3: It is caught by McBride.

511
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Speaker 2: He sets a new Cardinals record for catches by a

512
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Speaker 2: tight end, having one hundred plus receptions as a receiver.

513
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Speaker 2: That's a great year as a tight end. It's a

514
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Speaker 2: ridiculous year. Caught by McBride and pushed out of bounds.

515
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Speaker 2: There it is. Trey McBride moves past DeAndre Hopkins establishes

516
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Speaker 2: a new Cardinals franchise record most catches in a season,

517
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Speaker 2: pulled in by McBride. He's tackled at the forty one.

518
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Speaker 2: Trey McBride has set a new NFL record for catches

519
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Speaker 2: by a tight end in a single year. Fires left

520
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Speaker 2: side on a back shoulder. It's caught by Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 2: He's over a thousand yards on the season.

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Speaker 4: A couple of highlights individual highlights from a season that

523
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Speaker 4: there was not much collectively to get behind. But yes,

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson Tray McBride bright spots for the Azona Cardinals

525
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. As we continue here on the

526
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sea report, and first things first, Michael Wilson,

527
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Speaker 4: because I think it was a talking point going into

528
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Speaker 4: the game, Paul, whether anyone wanted to acknowledge it. No,

529
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Speaker 4: we're not gonna target Michael anymore. But ninety three receiving

530
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Speaker 4: yards away from a thousand. He finishes with ninety nine

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Speaker 4: on the day, so over one thousand for the season,

532
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Speaker 4: and it's just good because of you know, how hard

533
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Speaker 4: Michael worked, not just in season but offseason, and then

534
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Speaker 4: the opportunity becoming wide receiver one after the different injuries

535
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Speaker 4: and absences from Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Considering what was at stake the thousand yard season, I'm

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Speaker 3: guessing he was the first read on a lot of

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Speaker 3: the plays, right, and so that might have been the

539
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Speaker 3: one adjustment, perhaps at least in the mind of Jacoby Brissett,

540
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Speaker 3: who definitely wanted to feed Michael Wilson within the scope

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Speaker 3: of the game. Michael Wilson, to his credit, very honest

542
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Speaker 3: with the media saying yeah, truthfully, it is meaningful to me,

543
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Speaker 3: especially the way I started this season three catches in

544
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Speaker 3: the first three games, just over fifty yards receiving in

545
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Speaker 3: the first five games, and end up with a thousand

546
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Speaker 3: yards receiving. To end up is one of the biggest

547
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Speaker 3: threats via the air in the NFL. Dare I say it?

548
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Speaker 3: The last two months of the year. It was remarkable,

549
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just you know, this was the culmination

550
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Speaker 3: of a process. If you listen to Michael Wilson, it

551
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Speaker 3: was a three year process. And he said he would

552
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Speaker 3: he would pray and hope that he would get an

553
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Speaker 3: opportunity to have more than three targets in a game

554
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Speaker 3: that he could actually be fed like wide receiver one.

555
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Speaker 3: But when it happens, you have to be ready. So

556
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Speaker 3: when all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you have

557
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Speaker 3: the wide receiver one come down with appendicitis and the

558
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Speaker 3: next game you get eighteen targets, you better be ready.

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Speaker 3: And he was and he delivered.

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Speaker 4: Here are the numbers for Michael Wilson the last eight

561
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Speaker 4: games where he ranked within the league as far as receptions, receiving, yards, receiving, touchdowns,

562
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Speaker 4: and targets tied for third, second, second, and second. So

563
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Speaker 4: you're talking about a top three pass catcher over the

564
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Speaker 4: last eight games of the regular season, cause you don't

565
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Speaker 4: know what you're going don't want, you don't know when.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna get that opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And then so sometimes when you do get that opportunity

568
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Speaker 4: that you've been waiting for, do you maximize that opportunity?

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Speaker 4: And in Michael's case, oh, he definitely did.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he maximized it.

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Speaker 5: I mean he earned himself a lot of money in

572
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Speaker 5: this past you know, eight eight to ten games, just

573
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Speaker 5: the way he went out there and played consistently. Because

574
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Speaker 5: Danny Smith special teams coach he actually with Pittsburgh right now,

575
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 5: used to always say, hey, you are going to get

576
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Speaker 5: exposure at some point, whether you're the starter, the backup,

577
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 5: a guy that's on practice squad. The question is will

578
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 5: it be good exposure or bad exposure? And so he

579
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 5: used to just tell guys that all the time. So

580
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: the guy stayed ready prepared, like you're the starter, because

581
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Speaker 5: you never know when that guy's going to go down,

582
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Speaker 5: get injured in game, out of game.

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Speaker 6: You just don't know when is going to happen.

584
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Speaker 5: And Michael Wilson already had that mindset, and so when

585
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 5: it came for him to get his opportunity, he stepped

586
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Speaker 5: in there and executed and then really earned the right.

587
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Speaker 6: You know, it's not like they.

588
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: Like they weren't going to throw them to get the

589
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: ball at the end of the game or the last

590
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: game of the season, because he earned the right. He

591
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Speaker 5: was the number one dude because was out and he's

592
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: been balling all year with those opportunities, and it's really

593
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 5: cool to see from week to week because a lot

594
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 5: of guys can come out there and do it maybe

595
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 5: one week or every other week, he was consistently when

596
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Speaker 5: he was putting that in that position, having big time

597
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 5: games and nobody can really shut him down. So that

598
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 5: was really fun to watch and see, and it's only

599
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 5: going to be exciting for next year as he continues

600
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Speaker 5: to build on that with Trey McBride, which a Kobe

601
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: Versett and then whoever else is you know, part of

602
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Speaker 5: that offensive group as they move forward.

603
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Speaker 3: So we could do a whole show on Michael Wilson,

604
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: we could do a whole show on Trey McBride, and

605
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Speaker 3: later this offseason we probably will, but for right now,

606
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Speaker 3: let me just share that Week eighteen, I went up

607
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: to Trent Sherfield and I asked for his thoughts. I

608
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: wanted to, you know, a veteran receiver. He told me,

609
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Speaker 3: And I asked him later, can I quote you on this?

610
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: And he said yes, because he said he reminds me

611
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: a lot of Larry Fitzgerald and I sort of went

612
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: wide eyed, and he said, look, he's not the fastest,

613
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Speaker 3: but he's the superior route runner. He has ultra strong hands,

614
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: catches the ball away from his body, total dog to

615
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: deal with the contested catches. He's a lead in that

616
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: regard and Trencher feel added, you know, I still keep

617
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: in touch with Larry, and Larry told me recently he's

618
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: a real fan of Michael Wilson's game. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: in addition to everything else, guess what that just checked

620
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Speaker 3: a couple of big boxes.

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Speaker 4: In Week eighteen third quarter, a twenty yard reception on

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Speaker 4: a back shoulder throw got Michael Wilson over one thousand

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Speaker 4: receiving yards this season. Let's hear from Cardinals wide receiver

624
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Speaker 4: one on what one thousand yards means to him.

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Speaker 9: I would say, give him my role going into the season.

626
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Speaker 9: I don't think that was a goal of mine, just

627
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Speaker 9: because like I didn't I didn't think I was gonna

628
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 9: be like in this situation with the targets and everything

629
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Speaker 9: to get a thousand yards. But it's it's really gratifying,

630
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Speaker 9: and I think what makes it more special and makes

631
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Speaker 9: me cherish him more is how I started the season

632
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Speaker 9: I got. I had three catches in the first three games.

633
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Speaker 9: I think I had right around fifty yards in five games.

634
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Speaker 9: So to get one thousand yards basically in twelve games.

635
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Speaker 6: Is that's crazy to me.

636
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: Very happy for Michael Wilson, by the way, he and

637
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: Trey McBride become the first Cardinals teammates with a thousand

638
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: receiving yards since John Brown and Larry Fitzgerald in twenty fifteen.

639
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: So have to go Away's back. But speaking of Trey McBride,

640
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: and he broke whether it was league records or franchise records,

641
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Speaker 4: I think there is at least probably more than a

642
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: half a dozen different marks, whether it's franchise or single

643
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: season or career and personal best. So I don't know

644
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 4: what the next step is for Trey zo, but someone

645
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: that has elevated his game, even though I thought he

646
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: did so a year ago. But even now, if he's

647
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: not the number one tight end, he's in the conversation

648
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Speaker 4: for at least the top three.

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Speaker 6: Maybe just the top two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean at this point, it's just consistency, right,

651
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Speaker 5: That's what all the greats were able to do. Yes,

652
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Speaker 5: you have a great one season, right, I had a

653
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: season where I had thirteen seconds.

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Speaker 8: That was it.

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Speaker 5: Everything else was single digits or non existence for whatever reason. Right,

656
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Speaker 5: But the greats are able to compound those years year

657
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: in and year out, and so that's what you start

658
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Speaker 5: looking for. Now, Hey, can you do this again next year?

659
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: Make it three years in a row, four years, five years. Right,

660
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: when you look at guys like Travis Kelsey, that how

661
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: relevant he's being and how long he's done it for

662
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Speaker 5: and being at the top tier. So that's what Trey's

663
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: next goal is, on top of maybe adding the ability

664
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Speaker 5: to maybe be a little bit more dominating in the

665
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Speaker 5: run game. But other than that, I mean, there's nothing

666
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Speaker 5: really else you can do outside of just building that

667
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: body of work that guys respect year in a year out.

668
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Speaker 4: And consistency might be the toughest challenge because it's you

669
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Speaker 4: work hard to get to that level and then okay,

670
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Speaker 4: how do you maintain that level moving forward?

671
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Speaker 3: And while you're trying to be consistent, guess what defenses

672
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: are elevating what they do against you. You saw Atlanta

673
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: just sell out with all these cloud coverages designed to

674
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Speaker 3: stop Trey McBride. Very next week talking to Jacoby, Brissett

675
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: said Cincinnati they doubled tray and shaded towards Michael Wilson

676
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: and basically disregarded any other weapon on the Cardinals offense.

677
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Defenses started to sell out to stop eighty five into

678
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Speaker 3: a lesser degree fourteen. And you know, Craig, we've talked

679
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 3: to Trey how many times is his locker and you

680
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: ask him about all the added extra defensive attention he's

681
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: received since basically the middle of last season until now.

682
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: He he shakes his head and he says, you know,

683
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: it's a compliment, but it's tough. It's definitely tough to,

684
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: you know, try and generate and produce like I used to.

685
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is why the running game is essential, right,

686
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: because there's even in the division when you look at

687
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: like a pookah a nakoua, right, and what they're doing

688
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 5: down there.

689
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: People know who's getting the football.

690
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: But because they're able to run the ball at an

691
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 5: elite level play action make different things look the same.

692
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: He's still able to get open, be wide open, Like

693
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 5: how he get wide open because they just ran play action.

694
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: Everybody thought it was gonna be run. So that's where

695
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: this Cardinals offense is going to be able to help

696
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: out next year is if they can obviously solidify the

697
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: running game, getting some offensive lineman in here, obviously getting

698
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: healthy at the running back position, and they're really making

699
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 5: a sort of effort to run the ball play action

700
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 5: like we saw a couple of years ago, because then

701
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: that opens everything up and they really it's really hard

702
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: to shut down elite talent like a Trey McBride or

703
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson when you're two dimensional offense.

704
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Speaker 4: Trey led the Cardinals and receptions, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.

705
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Speaker 4: On Sunday, he set the Cardinals single season record for

706
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Speaker 4: receiving yards by a tight end, as here from the

707
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Speaker 4: man himself, Trey McBride postgame Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean the catches is pretty cool. That one

709
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 10: hopefully will stick for a little while, and you know,

710
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 10: beat it in the sixteen games, so that was cool.

711
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Speaker 10: And then just to be able to extend onto it

712
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Speaker 10: that last game was pretty special. So obviously beating Zach

713
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 10: obviously a guy I learned from, a guy that you

714
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 10: know was here with me. So he's a tremendous tight end.

715
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Speaker 10: And just to have that record from a guy that

716
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Speaker 10: I learned from was pretty special.

717
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Speaker 4: The receptions one hundred and twenty six is what he

718
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Speaker 4: finished with Paul That is not just tops on the team,

719
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: but second most in the league to Puka Nakua. So again,

720
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Speaker 4: it's not just when you talk about tight ends. You

721
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Speaker 4: have to put Trey in the conversation of pass catchers overall,

722
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Speaker 4: regardless of what position you play on the skill set.

723
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Speaker 3: And if you're looking for a silver lining on the

724
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Speaker 3: Cardinals offense overall, it's just the fact that potentially they

725
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Speaker 3: have a pair of wide receiver ones and the best

726
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: tight end in the game. What do the Rams have

727
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: pukain Acoua and Devonte Adams coming back for the playoffs,

728
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: Plus those tight ends are pretty dang good. They ran

729
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: a lot of thirteen personnel this year, Higbee and Parkinson.

730
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Speaker 3: You look at the forty nine ers, they have their

731
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: Trey McBride and George Kittle. They don't have no stinking

732
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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson out there at receiver right now, or potentially

733
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Speaker 3: if you can unlock Marvin Harrison junior. Seahawks they have

734
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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigmo. All right, we'll give a sea

735
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Speaker 3: out of that. Beyond that though, So that is the

736
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Speaker 3: one area that to me is a competitive advantage for

737
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals in the division going forward. And you

738
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: know how many teams have wide receiver one and wide

739
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: receiver you know one A and like t Higgins and

740
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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. Well, if the Cardinals can get Marvin Irrison

741
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Speaker 3: Junior healthy and on track and maximize all that talent,

742
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Speaker 3: that to me is the upside.

743
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this work goes to show you, right, talent

744
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: isn't necessarily king. It is the execution of that talent,

745
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: right when you think about all the penalties, the red zone,

746
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 5: third down converged, all those things turning over the football

747
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: right when they happen getting out of field goal range.

748
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: So that is going to be the biggest change from

749
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 5: this year to next year. And having that talent coming

750
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: back is how they actually go out there and execute

751
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: as an entire offensive unit.

752
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Speaker 4: Saw a lot of young talent play this season and

753
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Speaker 4: some of that talent, as you say, Zoe God exposure,

754
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Speaker 4: Now what do they do with that exposure going into

755
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six will highlight some of those young pieces,

756
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: specifically talking about some of the young pieces on defense.

757
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Speaker 4: As we continue here, it's the Cardinals Red Sea report,

758
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: Craig Railupaul Calvic and Lorenzo Alexander here on the Arizona

759
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Radio.

760
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Speaker 2: Network on the Uzzin's back to pass looking lap, growing

761
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: lap and it is intercept it by Burt. He gets

762
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Speaker 2: up and runs to the near side of the forty

763
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Speaker 2: at the forty five and out of bounds at the

764
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Speaker 2: forty six. The rookie out of Ohio State with the pick, Burrow,

765
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Speaker 2: takes the shotgun, snap drops straight back Blitz coming in.

766
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Speaker 2: Burrow is sacked back at midfield. It's Cody Simon firing

767
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: into the backfield and taking down Burrow first down for

768
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Speaker 2: the Rams on their thirty three.

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Speaker 3: They run to the right.

770
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Speaker 2: Darius Robinson makes a play in the backfield, dragging down

771
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Speaker 2: the running back corum on the far side for a

772
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Speaker 2: one yard loss. Great to see Darius Robinson making some

773
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Speaker 2: plays here today. He gets vertical, makes the tackle for loss.

774
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Speaker 2: Love to see that there's great potential there. He looks

775
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Speaker 2: the part.

776
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Speaker 4: Over the last three cardinal games, you saw that potential

777
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: from a Denzel Burke, a Cody Simon and Darius Robinson

778
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: making plays defensively against the Falcons, Bengals and Rams respectfully. Now,

779
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Speaker 4: the question is, as we always talk about, momentum doesn't

780
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: carry over, but the confidence that Denzel Burke has leading

781
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: the team with three interceptions as a fifth round pick,

782
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Speaker 4: someone who got the opportunity because of injuries and then

783
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Speaker 4: a benching, what do you do with that opportunity? And

784
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Speaker 4: Denzel Burke looks like he is capable based off he

785
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: was matched up in those final three games as far

786
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Speaker 4: as the wide receivers are concerned, looks like someone who

787
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: can be in the mix or at least in the

788
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: rotation when you're talking about for the secondary next season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think a lot of the young guys

790
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 5: showcase that their ability and that they belong in the

791
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. The biggest thing that these guys are

792
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 5: going to have to do in the offseason right is

793
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: not allow them living out their dream or having some

794
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: success go too much to their head where they kind

795
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: of get away from the game too much, and I

796
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: think a lot of young guys may do this is

797
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: go and get out of shape, right, you want to

798
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Speaker 5: maintain that this offseason as you kind of go away. Yes,

799
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Speaker 5: you want to take some time off, but I'm still

800
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: going to make sure that my body's in the right spot.

801
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Speaker 5: So when I come back, I have a baseline where

802
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 5: I'm growing. I'm getting in that film room, I'm understanding

803
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: a where was I weak at? Where was I strong at?

804
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: Because teams are watching that, and so you have to

805
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: do that self study. So when you go to start

806
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 5: having these workouts with whoever your wide receiver guy is

807
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: or your dB guy is, you're working on things that's

808
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: going to allow you to take your game to the

809
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: next level and really be able to minimize because you're

810
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 5: gonna get beat in the league. I don't care who

811
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: you are, all pro, future Hall of Famer. You lose reps,

812
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: and the thing is you want to minimize how often

813
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 5: times you lose, and that really comes into your fundamentals.

814
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: And that's what these young guys have to make sure

815
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: that they continue to work on and not get comfortable

816
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 5: with some early success, but really lean into the discomfort

817
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 5: of working on some things that they didn't do well,

818
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: because that's gonna elevate their game as they get ready

819
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Speaker 5: to come out here and compete next year. Because again,

820
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 5: like we just said, it's about NFL is not for long,

821
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 5: So you got to build longevity through consistency, and the

822
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: only way you can do that is just working on

823
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 5: the fundamentals, the basics. That's really going to allow your

824
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: game to go to that next level.

825
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Speaker 4: A lot of young talents in the building, something Monty

826
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Speaker 4: Austin for touched on Monday.

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Speaker 8: I believe that we have a talented group of young players,

828
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 8: players that have played a lot. There's no replication of

829
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 8: actually playing on the field. We have a big group

830
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Speaker 8: of players that have done that, and we have to

831
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Speaker 8: continue to do better. We have to do better at

832
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Speaker 8: developing players. We have to do a better job at

833
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Speaker 8: player acquisition.

834
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Speaker 4: We heard a lot of that, Paul on Monday from

835
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Speaker 4: Mani about the developments of players and Okay, we have

836
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: a baseline now for a lot of these young players.

837
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Speaker 4: How do we get them to that next step?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

839
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Speaker 4: A lot of that falls on their own shoulders. But

840
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: do you have the right coaches in the position rooms,

841
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: to the coordinators the head coach to elevate the talents,

842
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: because the case of Denzil Burke, can you be a

843
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: fifth round talent but maybe play at a second round level.

844
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Speaker 3: I go back to the post game Week seventeen at Cincinnati.

845
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow after the game, asked by one of US

846
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: Pennsylvank media guys about, Okay, you're winning games. Is that

847
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: carry over in the next year? He said, no, no,

848
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: even confidence. I'm not so sure, but player development does

849
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Speaker 3: carry over, especially for young guys. That was Joe Burrow.

850
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Speaker 3: So I see that in a Denzel Burke. Obviously, last

851
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: couple months of the season. I think Will Johnson finished strong.

852
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: He had that Week fourteen battle against Pooka Nakub maybe

853
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: taught him a few lessons about point of attack and

854
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: making those those strong handed catches right contested catches. I

855
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: thought he rebounded ever since that game though. And then

856
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: if Max Melton returns from injury and whatever else is

857
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: going on, so you got three corners right now, Starling

858
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: Thomas returns and then along with Buddha, Baker and Rabbit,

859
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Speaker 3: I mean you have the makings of a pretty strong

860
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: secondary and hopefully secondary where guys are competing and pushing

861
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: each other all offseason through camp, and that's I think

862
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Speaker 3: where they're going to elevate their games.

863
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Speaker 4: Another young defensive player who saw a lot of time

864
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Speaker 4: late in the season because of the injury to Mac Wilson,

865
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Speaker 4: senior linebacker Cody Simon, started the last nine games as

866
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Speaker 4: the play caller on defense. He was in the locker

867
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Speaker 4: room during cleanup on Monday asked what he learned as

868
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Speaker 4: a rookie.

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Speaker 11: I've learned so much this first year, just about football

870
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Speaker 11: in general, but just how to play linebacker at a

871
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Speaker 11: high level and watching the older guys do it, and

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Speaker 11: you know, I think this would be a really important

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Speaker 11: offseason for me to be able to make a big

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Speaker 11: a big leap and really be able to separate myself

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Speaker 11: and do what I really need to do to contribute

876
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Speaker 11: for this team.

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Speaker 4: What are some of the things on your checklist for

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Speaker 4: the offseason?

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Speaker 11: Oh, I think schematically, I think the best linebacker the

880
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 11: NFL are always ahead of the game. I think that's

881
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Speaker 11: probably the biggest step I need to take in the

882
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 11: off season, just being able to be ahead and knowing

883
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 11: how offense are going to try to attack our defense,

884
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Speaker 11: and then also physically, you know, doing combine training, you

885
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 11: don't really get to really develop your body in the

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Speaker 11: way you want it to. So you know, that's the

887
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Speaker 11: stuff I'm kind of looking forward to right now.

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Speaker 4: A lot of self awareness there from Cody Simon, And

889
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: during that entire sound bite, you're nodding your head, agreeing

890
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: with almost everything that he would saying because you understand, Okay, yeah,

891
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm here, but how do I maintain my position in the.

892
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Speaker 5: Right And it's so much to learn as as a linebacker,

893
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: especially if you weren't asked to do that in college,

894
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 5: right they you typically have a role and you blitzing

895
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 5: and just kind of flying around and being an athlete.

896
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: When you get to this level, you just can't be

897
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: an athlete. You've got to be a student of the

898
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: game and really understand where do you fit in the

899
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 5: context of the defense right, how people are going to

900
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: be attacking you, what adjustments throughout the game? Can you

901
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: make checks and be an understanding the back end as

902
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 5: well as the front end. And you can see that

903
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: at sometimes because JG had some weird fits as far

904
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Speaker 5: as how he brought maybe Boodh Baker out in the

905
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: middle of the field and coming down he may have

906
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 5: a gap, right, and it looks like from a linebacker perspective,

907
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 5: I don't see anybody there because he's behind me. Maybe

908
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: that's my gap. Well, no it's not. Your gap is

909
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: the B gap and if you run that gap, that's

910
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: where the linebacker or the running back is going to

911
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 5: find and hit the gap. And that happened that time.

912
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Speaker 5: So I think he's talking about a lot of that,

913
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: and so they have to make sure that you know

914
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: whoever comes in to your point. As far as coaching

915
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: is able to develop players from a mental standpoint of

916
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 5: football IQ, a lot of coach just understand the game

917
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: as far as okay, where you should fit, but they

918
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: don't know how to teach it, right. I think that's

919
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: a difference. You've got to be able to communicate it

920
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: and teach it well. And then how do I create

921
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 5: drills that are transferable to real games, So then my

922
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: players are using these things versus me just doing busy work.

923
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: How can I then use these techniques, whether it's my hands, footwork,

924
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: eye placement, to then go out there and execute my

925
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 5: job at a high level. And that's where coaching really

926
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: comes in to help a young player. Maybe not like

927
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: a Bobby Wagner because he's been doing it forever. But

928
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 5: a young player that really needs good coaching. That's going

929
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Speaker 5: to be a significant part in player development. And how

930
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: do you communicate that both mentally and physically to allow

931
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Speaker 5: these guys to become the best version of themselves.

932
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Speaker 3: Craig, you didn't cite how I was nodding while Zola

933
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: was talking over here, because I can.

934
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Speaker 6: Con doesn't matter as much san you Lane and were

935
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Speaker 6: talking about football.

936
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Speaker 5: You sound like sp right now, Hey, hey Lane, Now,

937
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 5: that's that's why.

938
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Speaker 3: That's why I do my darkness to quote veteran players

939
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Speaker 3: talked to which I was about to do. Let the

940
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Speaker 3: record reflect before I was cut off and accused of

941
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Speaker 3: me and Skip Bayless over here. But I've had a

942
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Speaker 3: number of veteran guys tell me that the degree of

943
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: difficulty going from Mac Wilson Senior, an experienced guy, to

944
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Speaker 3: Cody Simon. Remember we thought that was going to be

945
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: a battle in training camp. No, wasn't a battle. Mac

946
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: Wilson Senior was definitely ahead of the fourth round rookie.

947
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Speaker 3: And then you found out when Cody Simon got into

948
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: the game. He's got a lot of town, he's got

949
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: a lot of football. I qu he's got a lot

950
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: of self awareness, more so than ever because he realized

951
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Speaker 3: the degree of difficulty and trying to fit a lot

952
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: of those gaps. And from what my understanding, guys trying

953
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: to explain it to me, football one to one, the JG.

954
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Nickral scheme was very demanding. You had to fit a

955
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: lot of different gaps in a lot of different ways

956
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: at different times, and offenses knew that and exploited that

957
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Speaker 3: at times.

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Speaker 4: And if you're thinking, thank you too much, you're not reacting.

959
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: That was well played.

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00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: Once again, I contributed to my sources, all right, the

961
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Speaker 3: veterans coaching me up so I can compete and hang

962
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Speaker 3: with Lorenzo Alexander. It's always good to hang with Zoe.

963
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Speaker 4: Hopefully he'll join us more often here in the offseason,

964
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 4: because yes, change is coming, change has already happened. We'll

965
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Speaker 4: get more into that in the weeks to come. Here

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Speaker 4: on the Cardinals Red Sea Report Special, thanks to everyone

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes for Lorenzo Alexander, Paul Calvc, I'm Craig

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