1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: CANF I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Daniel Guss an independent journalist here in Los Angeles who 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: is one of the few who covers city Hall all 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: day and all night every day. It seems he's going 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: to come on with what he knows about the best 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: firing of Christian Crowley, the fire chief. We'll have plenty 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: to do on that. Michael Monks, who has spent a 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: fair time at City Hall covering city government, is today 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: on the story of Nathan Hawkman making an announcement on 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: the future of the Menendez brothers. What did he have 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: to say today? Yeah, I'm on all those stories today. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: It's been a busy day here in the KFI newsroom. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: But this press conference that just wrapped up involving La 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: County DA Nathan Hawkman felt like an introductory law school class. 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: He recapped the case. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: He went over all of the legal you know, obligations 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: of a prosecutor, a defense team, the court itself on 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: what they need to consider here. So I want to 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: make sure I relay that information to you as accurately 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: as possible. Because it was a crash course in what 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: he's doing, right, I'll tell you right off the bat. 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't look like he's very sympathetic to the Menindez 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: brothers and their case. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to be. 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: So. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: There are three paths that the Menindez brothers have to 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: maybe get out of prison in some capacity. The first 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: one is their request that they have ongoing for a 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: new trial based on their suggestion that they have new 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: evidence that they were sexually abused by their father and 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: that was not considered effectively enough during the first two trials. 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: The second mechanism is a resentencing wish could again consider 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: that new evidence, consider their ages at the time in 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: the amount of time serve that may see them free. 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: And the third ist possible clemency from the governor, which 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: has always been out there no matter who the governor is. Today, 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Hakman only addressed directly his decision on the first one, 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: which is the new trial, and he came out firmly 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: against it. He says that this new evidence that the 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: Menindez brothers defense team have claimed that they have suggesting 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: that they suffered sexual abuse at the hands of their father, 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: Jose Menendez, really hasn't been substantiated. Well enough, it has 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 3: not been presented in a timely manner. It doesn't meet 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: the legal threshold to call for a new trial. So 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: the DA's office, their position is no to a retrial 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: of the Menindez brothers. 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Now Mark Garagos is leading the Menendez brothers claims in court, 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: and so this is going to be Hawkman's DA position 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: officially to counteract it. 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: It's going to counteract that exactly. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: So that's what the court will then consider based on 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: where the prosecutions. Obviously, it was the La County DA 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: that prosecuted the Menez brothers all those years ago. It 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: wasn't Nathan Hawkman himself, but it was this office. And 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: the position of the office today is no resentencing. However, 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: he did excuse me no new trial. He did address 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: the resentencing component as well. That has different legal hurdles 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: or considerations to be made. He says his office will 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: probably have a decision on that in two two and 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,279 Speaker 3: a half weeks. 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: All right, So he didn't come out against the resentencing 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: idea yet, well. 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Not yet, but you got the sense he was asked 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: directly and he kind of evaded a direct answer about 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: whether they should be freeze. That's for the court to decide, 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: but it was pretty clear that his position is one 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: that these sexual abuse claims just are not supported by 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: the evidence that is available, and that this so called 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: new evidence, which he casts doubt upon, is valid enough 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: to warrant these new considerations. 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: And does the Menendez attorneys want to use the same 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: sexual evidence to at least get a resentencing exactly, So 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: if he doesn't think the sexual evidence is strong for 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: a new trial, he's not going to think it's strong 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: for a resentencing. 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: What he said was there different legal considerations. I don't 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: know what those are, Like I said, this felt like 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: a law school class the way he was kind of explaining. 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, for those listening, his office has 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: also released a video explaining some of the stuff. He 82 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: rehashes the case itself and then talks about the legal 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: components leading up to this decision. But when I mentioned 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: that he doesn't seem very I guess a sensitive to 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: the Menez brother's case. He talked about how their story 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: changed about five times, going from we didn't do it 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: all the way to yeah, we did it. 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: But this is why that's why, you know, some people 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: might think it's tedious that Hackmann was there for a 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: while and going through all the details. But this is 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: a story from thirty six years ago, and there's a 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: lot of people who feel sympathetic for the Menendez brothers 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: who may not have been born then or were little 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: children not paying attention, and they don't remember exactly the 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: insanity that was going on around with those two brothers 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: for quite a while. They were not captured the same 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: day or the next day. This went on for months 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: before they were f I pulled in for an arrest. 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: It was a national sensation in the nineties, one of 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: the great trials of the nineties, the TV trial period. 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: But it was popularized, of course more recently by a 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: documentary and a dramatization on Netflix, so that got a 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of attention. Possibly triggered former DA George Gascon to 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: take a closer look at it, and he did seem 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: more sensitive to the Menindees brothers and their case. That 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: does not appear to be the situation now with Nathan Hachman. 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: A lot of people pushing for the Menandez brothers seemed 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: to be emotionally involved. 109 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: With the Menandez brothers in some way. 110 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: But if you look at the facts of the case. 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: There's no way you'd let these people out. 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: That's what you got the sense of from Nathan Haffman 113 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: today was or the rehash of the events and the 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: behavior of the brothers leading up to the killing and 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: after the killing, and the changing of the stories, and 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: how possibly this sexual abuse claim may have arisen as 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: a last ditch effort to find a way out. 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: All right, Michael, very good, Thank you, my pleasure, Michael Munks. 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: Nathan Hawkman holding a press conference today saying he's going 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: to be arguing against a new trial for the Menendez brothers, 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: not impressed with the quality of the sexual abuse evidence. 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we will return to 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: this absolutely astonishing press conference that Karen Bass had where 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: she is complaining that she's complaining, well, she fired Kristin 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Crowley and complaining that Kristin Crowley didn't call her and 126 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: tell her how bad the fire was going to be. Seriously, 127 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: we're living in an outdoor mental institution, all of us. 128 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 5: six forty. 130 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: Back to this astonishing firing. Karen Bass has gotten rid 131 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: of Kristin Crowley, and I'm looking I mean, every time 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: I look in one direction or another, there's there's another thing. 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: That's just. 134 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: Bizarre, because now a member of the city council is 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: trying to put together support for Crowley to override the firing. 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Now follow me on this. 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: Bass has complete authority to remove Crowley or any department head. 138 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: But if Crowley were to appeal the. 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: Firing and the city Council backed the appeal with a 140 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: two thirds vote, then Crowley would stay. And a two 141 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: thirds vote is ten out of fifteen. So there's a 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: council member Monica Rodriguez, and she criticized Bass's decision according 143 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: to the La Times, and says she's going to try 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: to get the ten votes from the city Council to 145 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: overturn the firing. The Time says that would be a 146 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: steep challenge, but not impossible. Rodriguez says, it's absolutely unacceptable, 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: clearly continues to change her posture. On January seventh, she 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: was praising the chief chief in her response, and it 149 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: appears as the heat kicked up over her absence, she 150 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: tried to blame someone else. Well, the two of them 151 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: both ought to go because Crowley did send a thousand 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: firefighters home and Crowley did keep forty engines in the garage, 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: so she has to go. And Crowley did not have 154 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: a crew watching that fireworks, you know the spot where 155 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: the fireworks fire began, because that may may I say, 156 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: have been kicked up by the winds and reignited, or 157 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: it could have been vagrants. And I wonder do you 158 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: think if it was a vagrant fire that they would 159 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: ever admit to it? Could you keep that kind of 160 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: a secret, because remember a vagrant fire almost took down 161 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: the ten freeway a couple of years ago, and Newsoman 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Bass tried like hell to cover it up. I don't 163 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: even think they investigated to look for the guy. There 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: was a photo of a homeless guy walking away suspiciously, 165 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not aware of any follow up on that. 166 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: They just let stories like that fade away and die. 167 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if it was a homeless guy, because 168 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: that's the backdrop to all this. We have a city 169 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,359 Speaker 2: unlike any other city in America, where tens of thousands 170 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: of mental patients and drug addicts walk around starting fires 171 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: by the thousands. 172 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: Every year. 173 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:47,119 Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand fires are started by vagrants in La Fourteen 174 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: thousand bum fires every year and it just goes on 175 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: and nobody stops it, and then we pour a billion 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: dollars into homelessness, which is really all those criminal faith 177 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: nonprofits stealing our money. Kind of like the High Speed 178 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: Rail Commission, kind of like the climate nonprofits in Washington, 179 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: d C. 180 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: We found about, we found out about this week. 181 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Once you start digging for all the disgusting corruption, there 182 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: is no end, There is no end, and it is 183 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: it is absolutely embedded in Los Angeles from top to bottom. 184 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: So I so Crowley never should have gotten the job. 185 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: This is the diversity monster that ate LA. Between Bass 186 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: and Crowley and Kenonia's none of them had the qualifications 187 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: or the intelligence really to have the jobs they had. 188 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: Garcetti brought Crowley, Bass did not replace her. Bass brought Kenoniez, 189 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: still hasn't replaced her. How do you not replace the 190 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: woman who left the reservoir? And what Bass is not 191 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: explaining is why didn't Why didn't a reporter ask her that? 192 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe somebody did. Every time Bass keeps wanting, 193 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: she didn't call me, she has my cell numbers, she 194 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: didn't call me, she didn't tell me how bad it 195 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: was going to be. 196 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Well, why did you call her. 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: You posted the fire warning, so you saw how extreme 198 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: it was. Bass posted the fire warning? Did she not 199 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: know that it was posted under her name? Is that 200 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: another thing she didn't know? I wasn't aware of. Frankly, 201 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of. How does somebody say that to 202 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: a reporter with a straight face? Frankly, I wasn't aware 203 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: of the fire What. 204 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: I looked it up? 205 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't look it up. Daniel Guss got it 206 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: for me and he's going to be on it in 207 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: a few minutes. She has two hundred and thirty eight 208 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: staff members, Karen Bass, two hundred and thirty eight people? 209 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: Do you have two hundred and thirty eight s half 210 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: members who work under you? Her primary responsibility is the 211 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: safety of the citizens of Los Angeles. It's number one responsibility. 212 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: So here comes this extreme fire warning and she leaves 213 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: and doesn't come back, and then claims nobody called her, 214 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: and she puts out the extreme fire warning on the sixth, 215 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: But does it call Crowley and say, do you have 216 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: enough bodies? 217 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 218 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna keep the second shift on, You're gonna put 219 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: out the engines. 220 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: What do we need? 221 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: Do we need to call, you know, the county. We 222 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: need to call the state. What do we got to 223 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: do here? Instead, she was drinking with the President of Ghana. 224 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: What they think We're all gonna forget this? Here's another 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: quote from U. Bass has a spokes whole named Zack Sidell. 226 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: Listen to this statement from Zach Sidell. I love these 227 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: spoke souls. Done as a box of rocks. But four 228 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: other major weather emergencies, the mayor or, at a minimum, 229 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: the mayor's chief of staff has received a direct call 230 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: from the fire chief flagging the severity of the situation. 231 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: This time, that call never came, So that means Bass 232 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: does not have to respond to the fire because she 233 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: didn't get a call or her chief of staff didn't call. 234 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Is that x sid Ellen sane? 235 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Seriously, that's the defense she didn't call me when Bass's 236 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: own Twitter account has the fire. 237 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Emergency warning from the Weather Service. But what you think 238 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: this is going to work? 239 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Changing the subject and pointing at Crowley. Of course Crowley 240 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: ought to be fired. That's not the point. It's still 241 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: Bass's fault. It's Bass's fault because she has to demand 242 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: that Crowley do everything possible or fire Crowley on the 243 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: spot before the fire rages and puts somebody in Who's 244 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: going to make those decisions. 245 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: That's her job. Anybody think otherwise? 246 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: January second, National Weather Service said extreme fire weather conditions 247 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: beginning on the seventh. On January third, they sent out 248 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: major Risk Take Action, Critical fire conditions. January fourth, Beast 249 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: leaves for Ghana. January sixth, Weather Service says heads up, 250 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: life threatening, destructive widespread windstorm expected Tuesday afternoon Wednesday morning. 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Every news station on television, all the radio stations that 252 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,359 Speaker 2: carry news, all the new sites that cover Los Angeles 253 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: had something about this, and Karen Bass says, frankly, I 254 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: wasn't aware of the warnings, And why didn't Kristin Crowley 255 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: call me? 256 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: She actually says this, She has my cell phone number. 257 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: So you have to call Karen Bass directly on her 258 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: cell to get her to respond to a fire that 259 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: destroyed thousands and thousands of buildings. 260 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: You have to call her. 261 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: If you don't call her, then your town burns and 262 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: people die. 263 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: The town burned, people die, and Karen Bass is going, well, 264 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: nobody called me. What you believe this? 265 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. My head's going to explode. 266 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: What happens. 267 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: If my head explodes, then what do I do? Your 268 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: head's probably exploding. I don't know what you're gonna do. Uh, 269 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: We've got We've got Daniel Guss coming on. He's the 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: independent journalist, the Guest Report. You could find all his 271 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: stuff online. He covers city Hall obsessively and very well. 272 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 273 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: six forty. 274 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: Rick Ruso coming on after the three o'clock news. Rick 275 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: Caruso coming on after three o'clock. Earlier in the afternoon, 276 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: LA Mayor Karen Bass fired the LA Fire chief Kristin Crowley, 277 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: claiming that Crowley never called her to tell her how 278 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: bad the fire was going to be seriously, also complaining 279 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: that Crowley refuses to do one of those after action reports. 280 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: Crowley didn't keep a thousand extra firefighters on today for 281 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: a second shift, and also kept to forty fire engines 282 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: in the garage, which is true, and she should be 283 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: fired for not sending one thousand firefighters and the forty engines. 284 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: It's also true that the fire department is extremely underfunded, 285 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: but not Karen Bass, and that's the excuse she didn't 286 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: call me, and she has my cell number. That's how 287 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: you run the city. Karen Bass is two hundred and 288 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: thirty eight staff members. Here's some headlines from around the world. Really, 289 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: La Mayor Karen Bass claimed she wasn't aware of wildfire 290 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: warnings when she left the country, says The National Review. 291 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: LA mayor's disgraceful excuse for going to Ghana while her 292 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: city burned. Daily Mail Eli Mayor Karen Bass gives a 293 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: mind bottling excuse for being in Ghana as her city burned. 294 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: New York Post. 295 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to Daniel gust now, and he's a 296 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: journalist here in Los Angeles. She's on with us frequently, 297 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: and he has a substack and you can find him online. 298 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: Dangly there, Yes, sir, how are you John. It's it's 299 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: a sort of every day it's something new, it's a 300 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: new lie. It's like you're watching an episode of Leave 301 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: It to Beaver in real time, you know, like Beaver's 302 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: got the chocolate around his mouth, denying that he ate 303 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: the chocolate. She was lying. Karen Bass was lying to 304 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: Alex Michaelson, defying what was on her Twitter account, denying 305 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: you had a great video segment the other day John 306 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: talking about that. You just looked up what the National 307 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: Weather Service said. It said it right. 308 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: There all the way January. 309 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm glad, I'm glad you mentioned zach Sidell, 310 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: her her mouthpiece at City Hall. He will put us 311 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: He's like the zach Sidell, Karen Bass's communications guy. He's 312 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: like the Carrine Jean Pierre of La City Hall. He 313 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: will just put it out there with a straight face, 314 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: in written form, and as though we're supposed to believe 315 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: because they put it out there. 316 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: And do they think anybody is buying this? I don't 317 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: know anybody who's buying anything that Bass is saying nothing. 318 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: They they think people are buying it. Because until this 319 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: whole situation, by the way, coinciding with the Trump's returns 320 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: to the White House, because it has worked to date 321 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: and the La Times facilitated and endorsed all of these 322 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: politicians and all of these policies and all of this 323 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: DEI stuff in the quinone is that at the LADWP, 324 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: it's worked up until now and it's all collapsing now. 325 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, with tragedy, tragic consequences, deaths, and tens and 326 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: hundreds of billions of dollars of damages or tens of 327 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: billions of dollars of damages. And it's only now coming 328 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: to life because the la TIMES which has been doing 329 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: the slightly better job of late. But all of these 330 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: chess pieces have been put into motion for years. That's 331 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: how we wound up with this, with this this circle 332 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: jerk of corruption of life. And by the way, Kristin Crowley, no, 333 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm not going to defend her because she has covered 334 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: up criminal activity and corruption. She has overseen falsification of 335 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: response times at the la FD and the LAPD is 336 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 4: just as corrupt. Not the frontline guys, but the management. 337 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, management is most of these cases. Well, I just 338 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: can't believe that Bass is trying to excuse her her 339 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: absence and her lack of response by saying, well, Kristin 340 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Crowley didn't call me, she had my cell phone number. 341 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: That is so outrageous, so preposterous, it just can't be real. 342 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: She thinks she's gonna blame Crowley for not calling her. 343 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: She's Crowley's boss, there is, She's running out of options 344 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: she needs she is. 345 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: Karen Bass is literally cornered. She's gotten away with lying 346 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: like a lot of these politicians, if not the super 347 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: majority of them had for their entire careers. If they 348 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: just go along and say things and we have a compliant, 349 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: non doubting media that they get away with it. And yeah, 350 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: they think that as you and I were chatting offline. Yeah, 351 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: she's got over two hundred and thirty taxpayer paid employees 352 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: according to the city controller's dashboard, and none of them 353 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: contacted her. Well, then then why are they there? And 354 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: by the way, I showed you that list of their salaries, 355 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 4: A lot of those two hundred and thirty eight people 356 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: are making well into the six figures two hundred thousand, 357 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: three hundred thousand in salary and then heaped upon benefits 358 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: on top of it. Who then was supposed to do this? 359 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: Was it Zach? Was it Carolyn Webb, Demasius Webb, her 360 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: chief of staff, or those dozen or more deputy mayors 361 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: working for Carolyn. 362 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: May Let me ask you what about the deputy mayor 363 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: who was supposed to oversee the police and fire departments, 364 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: who's on leave accused of calling in bomb threats to 365 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: city Hall? 366 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: What happened to that story? 367 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: You know what we're gonna find out, because that's a 368 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: federal investigation. That's Brian k Williams, who, let's be Claire 369 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: has not yet not at this point, been charged with 370 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 4: any crime. He's her deputy mayor in charge of public safety, 371 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: and he's on leave at home after the FBI rated 372 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: his home doing here. 373 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: Okay, who was doing his job? Because they should have 374 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: been on the phone too with Kristin Crowley. There should 375 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: have been a big meeting the night before, because I 376 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: was in the Palisades that morning and I hike with 377 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: my wife and for Charry Canyon and the Wins. 378 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: It started, and I knew about all the warnings. 379 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: And I said, oh, I said to my wife, this 380 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: looks like something bad is going to happen. You could 381 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: feel it. And we took video up the winds blowing. 382 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Where she stopped. 383 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: It took video because we just kind of knew this 384 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: is an important moment, like we're very close to some 385 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: terrible thing happening. 386 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, but but. 387 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Karen Bass said, I didn't get a call from Kristin Crowley. 388 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: That's bull. That's bull. And by the way, she's still denying, 389 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: as you saw it in the press conference today, Karen 390 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: Bass is denying that she made cuts. I'm going to 391 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 4: tell you something she did talking about seventeen eighteen million 392 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: dollars in budget cuts for the fire department. My sources, 393 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 4: people who spent their entire lives at the LA Fire Department, 394 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: said that the proposed cuts were forty eight or. 395 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Forty nine million. 396 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: So it's just a shell game. They these governments, not 397 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 4: just city Hall, but especially city Hall. They come up 398 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: with numbers and they define jobs that are funded, funds 399 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 4: that are funded but not occupied. Over time. It is 400 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: all a shell game. It is all corrupt, and it 401 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: has been corrupt for much longer than just this. 402 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 2: Let me ask you something is recalled the only way 403 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: to get rid of her or I guess. I guess 404 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom doesn't have the authority that they have in 405 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: New York State, where Kathy Hochel was considering getting rid 406 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: of Eric Adams as the mayor. In New York City, 407 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: we don't have a mechanism like that, do we, as. 408 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: Far as I know. No. I think the hocal Eric 409 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: Adams thing in New York is a very unique thing 410 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: from what I've heard, and I believe we would have 411 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: heard of that option sooner if it did exist here 412 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: for any reason. 413 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 2: You think any politicians here in Los Angeles or Sacramento, 414 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: including Newsom, are going to start stepping forward and saying 415 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: enough is enough blow the whistle. 416 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: Well, you know, Monica Rodriguez, who I think you mentioned 417 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 4: a moment ago, is trying to get support for a 418 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: two thirds override according to the charter, which, by the way, 419 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: kudos to producer Ray Lopez. He brought that to my 420 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: attention before I heard of it going on today. I 421 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna happen because Monica Rodriguez, you want 422 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: to talk about a politicized city council. She used to 423 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: chair a city council's Public Safety committee, and when Mark 424 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 4: Chris Harris Dawson, the city council president, decided to rearrange 425 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 4: the chess pieces, he bumped her from that role because 426 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: she didn't support him in this role or that role. So, 427 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: if Monica Rodriguez is trying to garner two thirds of 428 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: support for Kristin Crowley, I don't see it happening. I mean, 429 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: there is supposed but it's not. 430 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Like Kristin Crowley. 431 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: Nobody should go to the ends of the earth trying 432 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: to save her job anyway, because she did make all 433 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: these bad decisions. 434 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and she was a Garcetti higher And by 435 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: the way, Karen Bass, listen, John, I'm just the guy 436 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: with the keyboard. When Karen Bass came into the mayor's job, 437 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: she wanted a hire another very odd choice to be 438 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: LA Fire Department chief named Armando Hogan, and he was 439 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 4: going to be named her LAFD chief to replace Crowley 440 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: until I reported that he was getting grabby grabby with 441 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: one of the civilian staffers at the fire department, a 442 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: very high profile civilian staffer. So if it wasn't Crowley, 443 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: it might have been Hogan. If it wasn't this one, 444 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: it wouldn't have been that one. But the entire brass 445 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: at the fire department, there's corruption there. It is far worse, 446 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: John story. Haven't you even had a chance to report 447 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: on yet? Is there are There is copper theft going 448 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: on in communications systems in the supulvita basin where the 449 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 4: copper has been ripped out and sold by vagrants or 450 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: whoever does that type of thing, such that the fire 451 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 4: department relies on communications on radio for communications, That's how 452 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: bad it is. There are certain firehouses where if you 453 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: press the buzzer, they have to come down to open 454 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 4: the gate because the phone systems aren't working, because the 455 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: copper is being stolen. 456 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: We're all going to hell. Daniel, I gotta go on 457 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: late for the news. 458 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on again any anytime, John Daniel Guts. 459 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI Am 460 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 5: six forty. 461 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: Rick Caruso will be on live over the phone here. 462 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: One of the things that if you didn't hear, Bass 463 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: has fired Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, claiming, among other things, 464 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: that probably never called Bass to let her know how 465 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: bad it was going to be. This should not be overlooked. 466 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: The LA Fire Department is contradicting what Bass is saying. 467 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: It's a polite way of putting it, saying that she 468 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: was well aware of the huge risks before leaving for Africa, 469 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: and she left anyone. I got this from California Globe. 470 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: See this was Evan Simon at the Globe. He wrote that, well, 471 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: this is a quote from the Los Angeles Fire Department 472 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: prior to the Palisades fire. Prior to the fire, the 473 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Fire Department emailed two separate media advisories, conducted 474 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: multiple live and recorded media interviews about the predictive extreme 475 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: fire weather and notified city officials about the upcoming weather event. Now, 476 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: all this stuff is part of the public record, so 477 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that what the fire department is 478 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: saying is true, that they did put out media advisories 479 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: and did do live and recorded in views, and did 480 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: notify city officials. Because again, since we work at a 481 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: radio station here and everybody's monitors. Everybody here monitors everything internet, television, radio, 482 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: I can tell you absolutely for sure, by Thursday evening 483 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: there wasn't a soul that didn't hear one of these 484 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: reports in the media and in government. And then you 485 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: add Friday and then Saturday, and Bass leaves on Saturday, 486 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: and then Sunday and then Monday, and by Monday, Bass's 487 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: own Twitter account was sending out a warning and her 488 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: spokeshole and this guy is a block of wood, Zach 489 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: Sidel says, before other major weather emergencies, the mayor has 490 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: received a direct call from the fire chief. 491 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: Seriously, I can't get over this. I just cannot get 492 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: over this. 493 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: Look, everyone thought that whenever he used rhetoric about DII 494 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: hiring or voting based on people's characteristics rather than experience 495 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: and competence that somehow that was offensive and wrong. But 496 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: what I saw in Karen Bass because she was on 497 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: the radar, oh fifteen years ago, she was the Assembly leader. 498 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: I believe she was the Assembly leader, and I thought 499 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: she was terrible. She was behind a lot of bad legislation. 500 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: And then she disappeared into Congress for ten years and 501 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: came back to run here in La as mayor because 502 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, she wanted to maybe get another pension 503 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: going buff up. Her pension had like a retirement job. 504 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: And then you know when they found when she found 505 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: out that twenty twenty eight was going to be the Olympics, 506 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: she'd be the mayor for the Olympics, and she'd stand 507 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: on an international stage and welcome the world. I understand 508 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: why people want to be mayor and why you'd want 509 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: to be the mayor of la at this particular time. 510 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: But she had no no executive experience. She had no 511 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: management experience. 512 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: At all. 513 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: And this is a city of four billion people. She's 514 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: got two hundred and thirty eight people just in her 515 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: own mayor's office. And if you've never been in a 516 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: position where you had to make decisions about hiring and 517 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: firing about life and death, where you had to manage 518 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: a large living organism filled with a lot of people, 519 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: and you know, government who are not good at what 520 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: they do and waste a lot of money. As we're 521 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: finding out with the Adote investigations, there is not only 522 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: a lot of deadwood, there's a lot of corrupt people. 523 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: And you put somebody who's got no experience at all 524 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: in managing anything. She didn't deserve the job by any 525 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: objective means. It was obviously a thousand times over Rick Caruso, 526 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: and maybe in a quiet, sedate lucky four years, it 527 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: doesn't matter that much. But wow, when something really bad happens, 528 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: it's everything. It's everything. Because you take the warning, the 529 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: weather warning seriously. You immediately convene a meeting and you're 530 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: very direct and pointed with the questions, and you say, 531 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: I want to see the plan. 532 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to know what you're going to do. 533 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: Let's say flames suddenly take off in the Palisades, or 534 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: they take off in bel Air, or they take off 535 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: in Hollywood, or they take off in Woodland Hills or 536 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Sherman Oaks or in Cino. 537 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: What what are you going to do? 538 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: You got the extra thousand. Do we have to make 539 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: calls and get other people to help us? 540 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? What are you going 541 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: to do? 542 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: Where's the most likely place you think the fire is 543 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: going to start? That's what you do as an executive. 544 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's that spot where the fireworks were being shot 545 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: off in the Palisades. 546 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: It would have been a good place to put an 547 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: extra crew. All right, we come back. 548 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: It's Grit Crusoe is going to be on live with 549 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: us Brigintia di Angostino live in the KFI twenty for 550 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt 551 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: Show podcast. 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