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Speaker 1: Patriots Training Camp, this is Patriots Unfiltered, all right. The

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Speaker 1: day is finally here, Day one, Patriots Training Camp, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. We'll be here live throughout today's practice. I'm

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Speaker 1: Mike do Soo Patriots dot Com. Join Paul Perillo, Alexandra Francisco. Guys,

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Speaker 1: we've got the crowd here. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a super interesting day in terms of what

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Speaker 1: The train has started on the twenty two season, and

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Speaker 1: uh and here we are. Happy New Year, guys, Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. I don't know it's gonna be too much

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Speaker 1: exciting happening. We're gonna be here anymore, that's true, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I think having a mic problem there. Flip the switch

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Speaker 1: on the top of your thing, is what I'm being

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Speaker 1: told in my There's our guys, But guys, we've already

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Speaker 1: got some players here coming out now. Mac Jones, of course,

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Speaker 1: today is Mac Jones year two. The big free agency

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Speaker 1: class from last year. You know, some returns a little

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Speaker 1: But overall, I think there's gonna be some opportunities for

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Speaker 1: that in just the overall teams speed And we talked

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Speaker 1: unfiltered shows. They drafted a lot of guys that are

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Speaker 1: Probably not a good gauge now, but like as as

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Speaker 1: especially joint practice is coming up in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we'd love to hear from you guys

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Speaker 1: you have a chance, come on down. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's way out of my range. I can't

427
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,679
Speaker 1: tell that. I'm trying to look on the monitor and

428
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 1: I still can't really here, we got you can buy

429
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 1: my binoculars, the bins, the big binos. I'll take it.

430
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 1: I still can't tell. Oh that's one. Oh I see

431
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 1: a couple, Yeah, there you go. Wow, party party already

432
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 1: in mid season four, complaining about the lack of breaks.

433
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: I know, I thought he was coming over here trying

434
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 1: to drop a call on me. Uh, we haven't. We

435
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 1: haven't tried that, but I would love to hear from you. Guys.

436
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: You want to call in something, you want us to

437
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 1: watch for give us a call. Five is a good

438
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: look at the caps there, Mike, Yeah, I see you asking.

439
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: You said what we've seen. Yeah, there you go, shut up, Paul.

440
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Look at they're all wearing him, and you will. I

441
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 1: guess we're catching James White right there, you know, not

442
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: in pads, but but is walking through the stretching. So

443
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: that's not not not something that you know, you can

444
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 1: necessarily dismiss. I think it's uh, you know, just a

445
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 1: nice little glimpse that he is walking through things. I

446
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: know there were some reports, Paul that he was walking

447
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: with a limp. I don't know. Right now, it seems

448
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: like he's a he's okay out there, even stretching. Granted,

449
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: not not in any pads or anything, but still a

450
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: lot of hit mobility stuff going on down there, swinging

451
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: his legs and lift his leg up right wing of

452
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: the right leg and we're off. I mean when I

453
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: talked to him earlier in the off season. He was

454
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 1: selling me like initially he couldn't even bend down to

455
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 1: tie his shoes. He was like, how am I even

456
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna walk again? Never mind do what he's doing out

457
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: there right now so ibelievable. Well, I think he's one

458
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: of those guys that, even if he can't be on

459
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: the field contributing, you know, having him behind the scenes.

460
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean when he went down last year, just the

461
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 1: outpouring of support from the other guys in his room,

462
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor, Demian Harris, Yeah, Ramandre, you know what what

463
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: what James White means to that running back room. Um,

464
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: he's a huge leader. I mean, he's made some of

465
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: the biggest plays and in Patriots Super Bowl history, and

466
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's certainly one of those remaining guys that

467
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: that knows what it takes to to get to the

468
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: top of the mountain and was trying to blast through

469
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: our attendants here. Par I mean, I you know, I

470
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: don't you are doing our best. I think I can't

471
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: help you. I don't. I don't have a roster. I'm

472
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: wolf really unprepared, but I know nobody stuck up on

473
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: you living that main in Hunt on two wheels. But

474
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do this this time of year.

475
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: Squeeze every last moment of beach and beer time you can. Yeah,

476
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I had. I had more than my share time. I'm

477
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. That's what it's all about. So I

478
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: think I'm here, broken my record of thirty pack in

479
00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: three days. And I got another foil pack yesterday, and

480
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: I was going to give the rest to somebody else.

481
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: There was no rest. I made a Moscow mule the

482
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: other night and I was like, wow, drinking on a weekday.

483
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: But whatever, Like training camp, I'm not going to be

484
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: able to do this. So you're making me feel a

485
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: little better. You know, we've had a lot of it

486
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: was tough lately about the high noons. I know, tease.

487
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: Last night I did the Black Cherry High Noon. I

488
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: think that might have shot to the top of my

489
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: High News power rankings. As much as I like the peaches,

490
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: but that's how I was last night. We were we

491
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: were getting ready to dinner. I'm like, man, we got

492
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: a bunch of high noons. I love high noons do.

493
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: I introduced my father to them recently, and he can't

494
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: get enough. Did you have a little umbrella on that too.

495
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: I did. It was very very nice, a little like

496
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: garnish fruit. Oh yeah, my lay on, Yeah it was.

497
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: It was nice. But yeah, well we'll we'll try to

498
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: get a full full at tendance report. But I would

499
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 1: say for the most part, it seems like just now

500
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: it looks like there's a lot of guys here. Yeah,

501
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: it looks like a lot probably close to ninety somewhere

502
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: between eighty and ninety would I would, I would venture

503
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: a guest. But and as you pointed out, you know

504
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: they had sort of gotten together to do their little

505
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: warm ups and you know, the calisthenics before practice, before

506
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: like doing a walk through. Now you're sort of seeing

507
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: a little of that walk through stuff, and you know,

508
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: the separation a little bit with the offense and defense

509
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: going over some some of their pre practice routines. Well,

510
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: it's it's sure different, Paul. And I'm sure than the

511
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: early days when you guys were down at Bryant. What

512
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: was the first day of practice, like opening training camp

513
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: at Bryant back in the day. I mean, was that

514
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: just right into full pad double sessions. Everybody's just smashing

515
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: foot is football? Uh? Yeah, they and not only they

516
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: would be in full pads, but they would have two

517
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: practices and not both in pads. One would be like

518
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: this and one would be in pads. But you know,

519
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: for the first several days they would practice twice a

520
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: day and be like nine to eleven, three to five

521
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: something like that, maybe two to four. Um. So yeah,

522
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different, and you know, frankly, it's

523
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot better, and not just because we don't have

524
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: to you know, be here for the entirety of the day,

525
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: but for the for the players, I mean, it has

526
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: to be healthier. I mean, obviously it was the head

527
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: injuries is so important and this top of mind for everybody,

528
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: but just the overall body. Yeah, body injuries in general.

529
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: It's really hard to just be so static and then

530
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: that summer vacation mode and then full force pads running

531
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: into each other. It's that's torn ligament's waiting to happen, right,

532
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: and then it's you know, and it's you know, back

533
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: to those like Bill tell you. I mean when when

534
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: he broke into the league, it was like eight ten weeks.

535
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be like July fourth, they would they

536
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: would get together. Then they would have like six weeks

537
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: or practice six weeks or preseason games and then getting

538
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, by the time you play in the regular season,

539
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: you feel like you've already played an entire year. You know,

540
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: like high schools do a lot of that stuff still now,

541
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, four days, five days. You know,

542
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: you just sort of like you drill all the reps

543
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: and you get the plays down and whatnot. But this is,

544
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, what they used to do back in the

545
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: day from a physical standpoint. You know, you think about

546
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: it and you're like, I mean that's lunacy. I mean

547
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: you talk about high school. I mean I remember my

548
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: first high school double sessions and that was the first

549
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: time I was introduced introduced to the howderd gatorade that

550
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: they make, that the trainers make themselves, which has just

551
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: got a special something about it, and I'm not quite

552
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: mixed right. Yeah, it's like a little bit too much.

553
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: It's almost too sweet, but it's delicious. And I remember

554
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: after my first practice just sucking that gatorade down and

555
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: being like, we have to go back out there and

556
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: do it again. It's not what I was used to

557
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: for sure, And I mean it's just the heat and everything.

558
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: It's uh it pushes you even. I mean, even this

559
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: stuff I think out there is as light as it is,

560
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: it's still I think it's a little bit a little

561
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: bit challenging, especially when the heat ramps up a little bit. Well,

562
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy said it best yesterday, like, no one's excited

563
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: for training camp. If they say that, they're lying to you.

564
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: I know it's always such a build up. But you know,

565
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: and here we are, and and there's a guy, you know,

566
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about second year guys that need to step up.

567
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Mike just so as excited for everything at that time.

568
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Well he's not out there running around. Hey, I know

569
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: that is true. I would not be excited for that.

570
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: But but john who Smith here he is was around

571
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: all spring. I had a couple nice catches in mini camp.

572
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: We were talking about, you know, those free agents that

573
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: that maybe we need a little bit more out of

574
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: them this year. He seems fully in fall. I know

575
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: last year wasn't able to be here early on, had

576
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: a kid, had some injuries. It just kind of seemed

577
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: to stunt his growth. Uh. You know, Paul, what do

578
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: you think with Johnny? Is this is this somebody that

579
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: that you think can can get to the level you're

580
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of hoping. I mean, as you've pointed out many times,

581
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he fell off a cliff in terms

582
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: of what his general promssion. I think I think he's

583
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: a number two tight end and I think Hunter Henry

584
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: is clearly number one. I think he's the number two

585
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: tight end. I don't think if you look at him

586
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: that if I understand how stupid this sounds, you can't

587
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: help but take the salaries that these guys, the contracts

588
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: these guys were given, and say, wow, we're gonna get this. Well,

589
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: they probably got contracts that weren't really commensurate with what

590
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: they have done. But if you eliminate that and you

591
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: just look at what they did on the field, I

592
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: think Henry was probably pretty solid and Smith was a

593
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: little disappointing, but not like a disaster. It wasn't like

594
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: he couldn't get out on the field and play at all. Um, Yeah,

595
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: he was disappointing. He didn't produce very much, if at all,

596
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: won the passing game, I know, throughout the year. But

597
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: I do think he'll be a little bit better this year.

598
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: But I think he's a number two guy. Yeah, Yeah,

599
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: I think I was just disappointed. I think I had

600
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: high hopes for him with the run after catch. You

601
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: weren't alone. Yeah, a lot of people were so bullish

602
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: on him coming out of training camp last year, and

603
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: I just wondered why everybody was like expecting a you know,

604
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: an ady catch season from a guy who caught forty one. Yeah. Money, Yeah,

605
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: you just see that price sag and you expect you

606
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: think it's your money. And yeah, that's a good point.

607
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I know, it sounds silly to

608
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: just sort of put the contracts to the side. They

609
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: gave two tight ends, the two largest free agent contracts

610
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: for tight ends in NFL history, you know, in terms

611
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: of guaranteed money, and especially with that, people were here. Yeah,

612
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: so who we miss and deuce anyone? So far? I

613
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: pretty much there's there's nobody that's that stuck me. But

614
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: and I we're gonna look right now here at Damien Harris.

615
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: Of course during a contract year, kind of a breakout

616
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: season last year, a couple of big runs, I mean,

617
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: really an energy guy, you know, for the team. But

618
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: the backfield is just it's been reinforced. I mean, it's

619
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: we talked about strong Kevin Harris also drafted. You've got

620
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Romondre Stevenson back. I mean, Ramondre I think is a

621
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: guy too that a lot of people are looking as

622
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: a breakout candidate. But Harris kind of had his breakout

623
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: year last year. You know what, do you think, Paul

624
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Alex is he the one a guy still in this

625
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: offense or do you think it's gonna be kind of

626
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: an open competition to see how those roles are kind

627
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: of divided up and turn. You know, also with the

628
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: factor in James White's health as well. Uh, you're Damien Harris.

629
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: It's a big year for him, contract year. He's got

630
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: to bring it. Yeah, And I do think both of

631
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: those guys, and you say this a lot, Mike, and

632
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't know if there'll be a

633
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: running back that the Pagets will have that will get

634
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: the kind of opportunities to be sort of top of

635
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: the league in that kind of production. I do think

636
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: they'll both split time, and I think they'll be games

637
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: where would be more of the Stevenson game than a

638
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Harris game. Yeah, going by looks sometimes you get a

639
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, a hot hand, you stick with it. Whatever.

640
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I like Stevenson a little a little more. I think

641
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 1: he has more explosiveness and more power. But I mean

642
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: I think Harris is excellent. I think he had a

643
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: he had an excellent year last year. Fifteen touchdowns. I mean,

644
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a big generally a big like one yard

645
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: touchdown run kind of guy, like big deal someone's going

646
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: to get but fifteen is a lot of touchdowns. So

647
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: you can't just ignore that either. And that's this is

648
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: probably the part that the offensive lineman don't particularly love,

649
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: the having a love that sled around a little bit.

650
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: So I know that a lot of people are really

651
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: interested in every movement with the offensive coaches. So in

652
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: the pre pre portion that we just watched, you know,

653
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: it was Matt Patricia was with Matt Jones running plays

654
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: toward the far side, while Joe Judge was with um

655
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy and Brian Hoyer on the other side. Um,

656
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not telling you to read anything into

657
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: what that means. I'm just pointing it out as as

658
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: a fact. No, no editorialization there. Observation. Yeah, now we'll

659
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: have the h the Matt Tracker and the Joe Judge

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Tracker wives every ten minute, so they're with but I

661
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: mean we talked about a little bit, Yes, defensive coordinator

662
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: on the tam and and I think that you know, look,

663
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: I think it all comes down to Bill Belichick is

664
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the head coach. But you know, it's just how many

665
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: voices are in Mac Jones is ear, you know, and

666
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: and and is there Uh. I know. The reason that

667
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: was always given that that the Patriots keeps small staffs

668
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: was just you know, for the message not to get muddled.

669
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about are now right when you talk

670
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: about the offensive position? You know, it's is it going

671
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: to be Joe Judge in his ear? And then Matt

672
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Patricia comes in and calls the plays like you know,

673
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I think, And that's just goes back to the thing

674
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: that you know, we think we led the show off with,

675
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: which is the importance to Mac Jones for this team

676
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: and his development and nurturing him in the best way possible.

677
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel great that he's getting tutored

678
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: by Bill Belichick. But I think it's it's okay to

679
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: have some questions and some concerns about, you know, are

680
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: there too many cooks in the kitchen? Does he know

681
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing? And how they want to attack

682
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: this season. Um, hopefully it gets it gets figured out here.

683
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the mechanics of how it all works

684
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: will become clear to why. But I still think it's

685
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: fair to wonder if it's the best approach to take it,

686
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: if it's going to produce the best results and and

687
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: and help Mac get to that next level. Yeah, yeah,

688
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's a great point. And you know, you

689
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: would you would ask me off the top what I

690
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: was looking for from Mac Jones and you know, in

691
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: camp and in general in year two. And I guess

692
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: that's a part of it too, Like can he take

693
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: ownership of the offense? It seems like, you know, some

694
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: of the reports that we've read from outside talking about

695
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe giving him a little bit more responsibility and doing

696
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more of what he wants as opposed

697
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: to running the old Patriots offense that's been running around here,

698
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: you know for the last twenty plus years. Um, you know,

699
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniel's leaving, it gave you an opportunity to say,

700
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of on equal footing in terms of the

701
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: knowledge of the offense, So why not reboot it a

702
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: little bit and do some different things and I think

703
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: we will see some of that. I just don't know,

704
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, specifically what it will all entail. Yeah, how

705
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: how how do you how do you know what a

706
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: scheme change looks like. That's especially when you're talking about

707
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: training camp practices. I mean, we get into games, you

708
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: can see what they're gonna be doing. But you know,

709
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 1: right now, it's it's it's hard to look at some

710
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: individual drills or you know, small you know, watching some

711
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: coverage stuff going on on the other side. I mean,

712
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's it's it's going to be

713
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: hard to discern here for the first few practices exactly

714
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: how things are coming together. But of course, once you

715
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: get to join practices with the Panthers, join practices with

716
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I think you have a pretty good sense of, uh,

717
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you know who the personnel is at least and who

718
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: they're going to lean on, uh in the big moments,

719
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: and you know who's in the mix to really compete

720
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: for starting jobs. And you know, not on the lower

721
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: end of the roster, the bubble, those guys that that

722
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: are you know, maybe facing some uphill climbs. But but

723
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: still I think there's opportunities on this team, especially on

724
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, that that maybe weren't there.

725
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at that linebacker competition and it

726
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: seems pretty open with guys they've been here for a

727
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: few years, uh, Josh Hutcha, Ronnie Perkins, Anthony Jennings, uh,

728
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, and even some of the some of the

729
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, new guys, Mack Wilson, Ray Kwa McMillan. How

730
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: do things play out on that second level. I think

731
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: jobs are there for the taking, and I think that

732
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: they like that, even though there's you know, you'd love

733
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: to have some superstars in those positions, but I also

734
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: think they like having competition and guys who are gonna

735
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: be able to push themselves. We'll see how it looks here,

736
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: but it's already they're you know, getting into it. Yeah,

737
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the linebacker situation is definitely one

738
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: to watch. And you know, you talked about some guys

739
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: maybe you know, the roster bubble kind of battles, which

740
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans are interested in that,

741
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, even though it doesn't really end up in

742
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: the long run being all that important. But like I'm

743
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: just watching some of the tight end stuff. You got

744
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Dalton Keene and Devin ASIASI out there. You know, two

745
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: guys that came in a few years ago, and neither

746
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: one of them is really especially Keene hasn't really even

747
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: been able to get on the field. But neither one

748
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: of them has made a mark yet. You know, there's

749
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: a third tight end spot open, you know, who knows,

750
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe a fourth. I don't know exactly how it's going

751
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: to play out, but with no true fullback, you know,

752
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: to take a rosha spot like in the last couple

753
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: of years, maybe there's room for both of those guys

754
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: on the active fifty three man roster. Well, Paul, I'm

755
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: getting close. I'm getting close here. I mean, I think

756
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: I've seen just about I think I've seen just about everybody. Um,

757
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: you know great vision that's not on NFI and not

758
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: on PUP. So I I believe how many guys are

759
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: on lists at this point. We got four on PUP. Yeah,

760
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: we got four on PUP and and so, I mean,

761
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: there was some recent news yesterday of um Miles Bryant

762
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: moving the NFI list non football injury uh, and then

763
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey punter as well. Uh non football illness Uh. Uh.

764
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: It's not injury. It's an illness. They go, um, so,

765
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: but I always think that's funny, Like, what what illness

766
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: would be football? Well, he's football, so he has to flue.

767
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: That's an excellent point, pie. I mean, that's non foot,

768
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: non football illness. They don't call him the best in

769
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: the business for an area it's a football I don't

770
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: want you to get panicked. It wasn't football related, it

771
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: was it was non football illness. Well, I'll tell you

772
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: I got football fever right now myself here first day

773
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: at training camp. I don't know if that qualifies. I

774
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: got the fever. The only prescription pads to come on

775
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: and something actually happens, there's more context. But otherwise, I mean,

776
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I think generally that the health is pretty good for

777
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: the team here as you start camp, and I think

778
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: that that's uh, you know, that's always the wild card.

779
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: You spend all year talking about these guys and you know, oh,

780
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with player X? And then

781
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: day three of camp, player X goes down and everything

782
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: you talked about. I mean, and that was ray Qua

783
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: McMillon last year. That was you know, he's writing the

784
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: mix with these guys, and you know he went down.

785
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: It was almost like, I mean, I see it, I don't.

786
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we were here when he

787
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: got hurt. I think we might have been traveling to Philly.

788
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Perhaps I don't remember exactly, but that could be. It

789
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: was kind of it was kind of like one of

790
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: those ones where he went off the field, didn't you know.

791
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like anything like a torn acl right

792
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: right from the get go. But you just hate to

793
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: see those things. You know, how hard, how hard these

794
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: guys work all season, and then you know, you get

795
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the camp and then it all gets goes sideways early

796
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: on and everything changes. So hopefully they can avoid those things,

797
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: and you know, the padded helmets and the light practices.

798
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll play into that as we as we're seeing

799
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: right on the padded helmets, good padded helmet talk. Yeah,

800
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: they are very noticeable among the receiving corps I've noticed,

801
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. We think those guys kept

802
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: the least amount of potential contact in a situation like this. Yeah,

803
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: so we're seeing it right now up close. There's Matt

804
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Patricia working with the old line, and uh, you know,

805
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Mac mac jones is here on our other on our

806
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: other field to our right working with the other quarterbacks

807
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: and Joe Judge and he's got a video on him.

808
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Receivers doing some drills in the end zone, working on routes,

809
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: and we got down here. We've got some coverage going on, DBS,

810
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: cornerbacks working on some one on one stuff handling. Uh,

811
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: I guess you'd say handling two man bunches, bunch sets

812
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: from some of the safeties and dbs down there. So, uh,

813
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: this is what happens. All the groups kind of divide

814
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: up and work on their individual drills, and you know,

815
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: we've in the the real practices. You're kind of waiting

816
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: for for the team drills and the live situations and

817
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: the clock to come on and the signs always the

818
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: music comes on, and then you know you hear that

819
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: kick in and you know it's about to be an

820
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: interesting team period here as we're uh, and this will

821
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: probably mean day one. I wouldn't imagine they'll be out here,

822
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: you know, too too long. It's probably closer to ninety

823
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: minutes than yeah, been two hours, but you know, something

824
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood. And again this is just sort

825
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: of for for Bill Beltichick. I think this is sort

826
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: of a refresher make sure that everybody's up to speed

827
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: on what they've done all spring, and make sure there's

828
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: this you know this At this point pretty much everything

829
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: is in, you know, in terms of installations, so now

830
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: it's just making sure everybody knows what they're doing. Well,

831
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on video, wrapping up video here shortly.

832
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for you know, sticking

833
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: with some video. We're gonna keep going on radio so

834
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: you can continue to listen. We got some emails building up.

835
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of callers here coming in, so

836
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: still encourage you guys, send us some emails, let us

837
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: know where you're looking for. We'll get into those after

838
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: the video portion. But we will be back tomorrow, Thursday, Friday,

839
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Saturday with live video again. So come on back and

840
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: if you have a chance, come on down. It's it's

841
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: an awesome time down here. Get in while the while

842
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: the weather's good. So we'll continue to uh relay what's

843
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: going on as we see. You know, Bill Belichick right

844
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: now we talk about the other coaches where they he's

845
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: down with the receivers kind of showing them walking them

846
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: through routes, you know, slow motion. I mean he just

847
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Speaker 1: kind of floats from place to place. I like this

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Speaker 1: do this every practice. M But the quarterbacks are throwing

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Speaker 1: to the back corner of the you know, the back

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Speaker 1: so it sort of has to like it's almost like

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Speaker 1: up and over the layer of defense there. Yeah. Well,

855
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Speaker 1: I don't want to bring it up, but it's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get a paragraph but that. But that Pro Bowl,

857
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Speaker 1: un fortunately saw Magam in great offseason for MAC. Had

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863
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Speaker 1: that's Russell Wilson. What are you gonna do? Uh? But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Bill, uh? Where do Bill go? Now? I mean

865
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Speaker 1: still with the offense over there, still in the middle,

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Speaker 1: and the uh in between the receivers and the tight ends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this is uh so, yeah, we got receivers going through.

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Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers went through. Yeah, just a little. You can

870
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: see the ramp up, you know, it's it's individual position drills.

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Speaker 1: Now it's quarterbacks throwing to the positions, but still not

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Speaker 1: against uh you know, against air in a no defense,

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Speaker 1: you know. And eventually they'll work their way up a

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Speaker 1: little bit to to some uh seven on seven work

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Speaker 1: against a defense. Uh and then maybe you know, like

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Speaker 1: you said, you know, a full team period. We'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what they end up finishing up with today.

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Speaker 1: Well it's interesting. So it's so so Thornton went through.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can see if you can see he's

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Speaker 1: the risk from here. Uh. But DeVante Parker you know, big,

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883
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Speaker 1: Live from Patriots Training Camp. This is Patriots Unfiltered. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're back here Patriots Training Camp, Day one, working through

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Speaker 1: some I guess we're ramping up a little bit towards

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Speaker 1: towards drills. Here Matt Jones thrown at some of the

952
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953
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Speaker 1: We got Todd. He's been holding off for a few minutes. Todd,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's going on? What do you what do

956
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Speaker 1: you think? What are you looking here for? From training camp? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the cover so far, as kind of hoping

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Speaker 1: Evan was there because I had a couple of questions

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00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: for the young guys. But I'll wait until they're You

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00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: got both Evan and Alex on at the same time. Okay,

961
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: you can ask us too, so no, Actually, what I'm

962
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: want to know is, and I Evan would probably be

963
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Speaker 1: helpful with this too, but what's more important to open

964
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: up the short passing games for the Patriots. Is it

965
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: somebody to do the seem like gronkys too, or is

966
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Speaker 1: it somebody a threat on the outside, Like what is

967
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: more important to getting that game open? Because I think

968
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: that's really where mac is going to shine. And I

969
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: was kind of wondering where do you guys feel which

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Speaker 1: one of those is more important? Are they both equally important?

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Speaker 1: Or how do you do that? I mean, I think,

972
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's specific things that

973
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: you need to open up. I mean, I think it's

974
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: getting it to the right play and knowing you know

975
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Speaker 1: what the defense is and you know overall and effective offense.

976
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can connect it to

977
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, this opens up that. I mean I think

978
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: that you know the old adage of the run game,

979
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: to you gotta run to open up play action and

980
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: open the pass. I mean, I don't know. I think

981
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: those those things are a little bit cliche. And I

982
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: just think, you know, an overall good offense an effective

983
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: running game when you're able to run when they know

984
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: you gotta run and you're still able to execute um.

985
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think you can connect anything

986
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Speaker 1: for you know, the Brady offense was so effective with

987
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: that stuff, but I don't think you'd ever connected really

988
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: to something specific. But um, you know, overall, I think

989
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: it's just on Mac making the right calls, knowing which

990
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: guys are are going to be open and when, and uh,

991
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, getting the ball out quick. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: he does. He's the reason I asked, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: it seems like the Pats are going to try to

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Speaker 1: change the scheme a little bit because they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have a fullback this year. So I thought maybe they would,

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00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, go back to some of the years when

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00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: they did a lot of that short passing game that

998
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: was so effective. Well, I think some of the you

999
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: know what, what you know a people were talking about

1000
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Speaker 1: in the in minicamp was that they were running a

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Speaker 1: lot of wide zone And I think wide zone is

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Speaker 1: kind of the the base foundation for you know, the

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan Kyle Shanahan offense that you know, you see

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh and you know in Green Bay and and

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00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of the core concept of it,

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00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: and everything kind of works off of that wide zone

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00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: and when teams start biting on the wide zone, and

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00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: you start with the bootlegs, and you start with the

1009
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: misdirection Deebo Samuel famously you know, able to do a

1010
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: number of different things off of that. Um So I

1011
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's what we're going to be,

1012
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, looking for. Are they going to continue to

1013
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: work a lot of wide zone and um, you know,

1014
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: do we start to see some of more of those concepts.

1015
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I think it's always been an

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Speaker 1: effective running game and with the stable of backs that

1017
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: they had. Thanks Todd, appreciate the call it tapped out.

1018
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: That was more than that was more than a little

1019
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: disrespectful for you. You're in the middle of a sentence

1020
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Speaker 1: and he just blew you off. That's all right, Maybe

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00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: as Banky will come in later tell me everything I

1022
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: said wrong, so we get and just you know, as

1023
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Speaker 1: a point of fact, I don't think they could possibly

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00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: throw more short passes this year than they did last year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure that there's going to be

1026
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: a you know, this widespread movement to the short passing game.

1027
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I actually think it will be the opposite. I think

1028
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: you'll see more stuff down the field. As mac Jones

1029
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: progresses and gets more comfortable with that in year two.

1030
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. That's what the offense

1031
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: is going to need to do to make some progress

1032
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: is do some some things differently. He proved last year

1033
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: he could he could be effective in the in the

1034
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: short passing game. His completion percentage was excellent. Yeah, and

1035
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Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, one little thing to that point, Paul,

1036
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a great point. One little thing that

1037
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Speaker 1: caught my eye. You know, we talk a lot about

1038
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: when the offense breaks up, you get usually two groups.

1039
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: You get the group that you know, I don't want

1040
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: to say the starters, because it's not just eleven guys,

1041
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen guys that are on

1042
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Speaker 1: one side, and then there's another you know, the other

1043
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: guys are on the other kind of learning group. And

1044
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Speaker 1: you know, I was excited to see Taekwon Thornton over

1045
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Speaker 1: with you know, Mac and that kind of like you know,

1046
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: that group working in reps with that at least at

1047
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the top. It just gave me some hope. Something we

1048
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit on the radio yesterday. We

1049
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: talked about it last week when when you were here, Paul,

1050
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: of you know, just Thornton and the speed, and you know,

1051
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were really wanted a

1052
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Speaker 1: second round wide receiver. And I think because of Parker

1053
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1054
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1055
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: red shirt ear. But you know, maybe not like I mean,

1056
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: I just maybe I'm I'm maybe this is false hope.

1057
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: But I think, as you said that downfield stuff, you

1058
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: think about, man, if you could get a Galore and

1059
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Parker and and and him going as well, all three

1060
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: of those guys with different kind of skill sets that

1061
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: can work down the field, be at speed, be it contested,

1062
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: catches um, that could be the element. You know, that

1063
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: could be the element. And I think just to see

1064
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Forton out here getting some reps, if he can stay

1065
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: healthy and not get kind of caught in that rut

1066
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: that we've seen so many rookies get stuck in where

1067
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: they're here for a couple of days, they get hurt,

1068
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: they miss camp, and then they're behind the ape all

1069
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: the entire season. Hopefully he can stay out there, continue

1070
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: to contribute, and who knows, I mean, if he makes

1071
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: an electric play downfield, I think fans are going to

1072
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: be buzzing. Yeah, and that's like I keep using the

1073
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Bethel Johnson apple for him. You know, back when when

1074
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: Bethel was a rookie, he didn't play a tremendous amount

1075
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, snaps, you know, the percentage

1076
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: of snaps. But he did get opportunities throughout the course

1077
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: of the season and he almost always took advantage of

1078
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: them and made a big play here or there. And

1079
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of plays that can really make

1080
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: differences in games, especially tight games, um like the Patriots, Uh,

1081
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: you know we're involved in at times last year. Yeah,

1082
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: if he could be that kind of a guy where

1083
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: you could go out there and say, you know, you

1084
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: had to be out there ten plays a game, you know,

1085
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: and in one of those ten plays, at least, we're

1086
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: probably going to give you an opportunity to make a play.

1087
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: And can he do it? Well? It's uh, it's getting

1088
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: a little interesting now. It looks like we've we've got

1089
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: some seven on seven work potentially down on the far end. Uh. Yeah,

1090
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: we're lining up for something. We have a little defense

1091
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: going on down there. Yeah, somewhat out of my range,

1092
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of a competitive portion. But yeah, a

1093
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: lot of the you know, the main cogs out there,

1094
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: and uh and Mac a little pass, a little dump

1095
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: off to Damian Hare. So how many times do we

1096
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: say that last year pass like it's twenty one all

1097
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: over again. Let's get a couple of questions in here

1098
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: while we're going through these. Uh, Tim writes in asking

1099
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: about the season ticket holding practice, and he wanted to

1100
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: know if there might be some real hitting this year. Tim,

1101
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: it looks like the the in stadium practice is going

1102
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: to be next Friday, so a week from this Friday. However,

1103
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: they are scheduled to practice four days before that, so

1104
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I would anticipate it will be yet another glorified kind

1105
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: of walk through. I think maybe a couple of years.

1106
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: Was it last year that there was really just kind

1107
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: of the yeah, it's usually a walk through a type

1108
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: situation and mat Mac just missed on that one. Looked

1109
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: like he had Jacobe Myers was that John? U can't tell,

1110
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: but he was running a little crossing route like Mac

1111
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: missed him, and I think he's all right, But he's

1112
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: staying down on his knee for a second here, but

1113
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: they're continuing to roll things. Let's get another question, Oh

1114
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: did you Yeah, I can't really remember, and I've been

1115
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: obviously to more of these practices than i'd care to admit.

1116
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I can't recall an in stadium practice that involved pads,

1117
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: let alone really any contact. And I think part of

1118
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: that is there's a lot of guys out there in

1119
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: a small amount of space on one field, and I

1120
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: think that they sort of look at that as just

1121
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get out, get on the practice field,

1122
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, show you know, the season ticket members get

1123
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: a chance to sort of see things, and it's just

1124
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like a kind of a quick, you know, recap. And

1125
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: as you point out, I think, Mike, you make a

1126
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: really good point because if you're gonna go five days

1127
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: in a row, that fifth day could just be sort

1128
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: of kind of a review. Let's make sure we get

1129
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: everything up to speed, and we're going to go over

1130
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of situations and how many times did we

1131
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: watch Bill and that in stadium practice, it's like free

1132
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: kick after a safety, you know, like every possible situation

1133
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: imaginable has gone over. The defense is pretty scrappy down

1134
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: in that red zone seven on seven drill that you

1135
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: were talking about, Mike, You know, some of the couple

1136
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: of passes defensed and looks like they're getting after a

1137
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: little bit. That's good. Uh, Cody writes in Cody, Indiana, Cody,

1138
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: great question. Based off the first eight minutes of training camp.

1139
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Does it look like DeVante Parker is going to be

1140
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: a true wide receiver one? That's a good one. I

1141
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: hope I'm sensing the tongue in cheek nature of that.

1142
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: But absolutely, he looks like he's Randy Moss out there.

1143
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: He's wearing number one's. I just want to get pass

1144
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: thinking he's to kill Harry. That's all. I just want

1145
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: to stop, stop that, get that out of my brain.

1146
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: But thanks for the question, Cody. Uh. Yeah, last year

1147
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: I got at them from Eddie. Last year Mac got

1148
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: crushed with pass rush. How will this improve this year?

1149
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Matt camp withstand that type of punishment? Ah. I mean

1150
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: he definitely took some shots last year, and I think

1151
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about that a little bit of just having

1152
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: a better grasp of the offense and you know, getting

1153
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: getting the protection set correctly, knowing where his you know,

1154
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: free rusher was going to come from. But or thought

1155
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: he did. He did an okay job. I mean, but

1156
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: there's no question. You know you don't want to get

1157
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: him lit up. I mean he doesn't. That's another one

1158
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: from Kendrick I think. Yeah, Kendrick Bourne, back of the

1159
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: end zone. Nice throw by Matt kind of a little

1160
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: bit of a fingertip catch there. And here's where I

1161
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: here's where I bring it all together, Alex. This is

1162
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: how you write blood survations. Okay, that throw that he

1163
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: just threw to Kendrick Bourne is exactly the throw they

1164
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: were working on over here over the net, dropping it

1165
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: into the back pylon. Yep. And that's how it all

1166
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: comes full circle. That's how you survived twenty whatever years

1167
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: and that last show they were doing here with the

1168
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: short passes. Kendrick did probably make the best couch I've

1169
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: seen yet today, but kind of like bobbled it a

1170
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: little bit, somehow managed to get it in his left hand,

1171
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: pull it in, got a nice little reaction from the

1172
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: crowd there. So you're definitely getting a little bit of

1173
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: a healthy rotation just in terms of the personnel overall.

1174
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: There it is again to Kendrick Bourne. Ye spike four.

1175
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: But you know, just as an example, I mean, you're

1176
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: seeing Brennan Schooler undrafted, you know, rookie, maybe more of

1177
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: a special teams guy getting some some defensive reps. So

1178
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: I think they're just you know, mixing everybody in, getting

1179
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: everybody used to you know, the pace, getting the call,

1180
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: knowing what to do all that before the pats you know,

1181
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: come on. But you know, hard to hard to really

1182
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: discern too much right now, just in terms of who's

1183
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: out there. See when Alex was talking about Born earlier

1184
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: in the show, about like all the things that he's

1185
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: been wanting to do and stuff like, that's the kind

1186
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: of even just watching right now, which is the first

1187
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: hour of training camp and he's over, you know, celebrating

1188
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: with try Brown on the sideline, his energy is just

1189
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: sort of infectious even just to watch. Yeah, smile too,

1190
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I've never seen him not smile. I don't think it's

1191
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: been mad. A little dump off there to to JJ Taylor,

1192
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: he's looks like he squeaked in as well. So a

1193
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of reps, I mean, and remember the last year too, Paul,

1194
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: we uh remember just being struck by how much red

1195
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: zone work they did and it seems like, yeah, I

1196
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: remember already starting off again and remember what the question was,

1197
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, like you seem like You've done a lot

1198
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: of red zone work. You know why is that? We

1199
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: always That's what we always did, And here we are

1200
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: the next year. You're doing a lot of red zone

1201
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: stuff right off the right, off the top. So Bailey's

1202
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: appy getting a chance and misfire. They're caught on the

1203
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: back end line by arresting Kyle Dugger. So missed on

1204
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: that one, Doug Doug do and uh yeah, Bill just

1205
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: standing behind the offense, not too far from Joe Judge.

1206
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: And where's where's Maddie? Pe? We got we got any

1207
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: play calling insight here? I believe he is on the sideline,

1208
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: but I can't tell. I'm gonna throw up the big

1209
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: buyos here again, Is that's him over there with all

1210
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: of the Uh, that one had no chance. There's a

1211
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of bodies in between the ball and the receiver,

1212
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean the passing the receiver on that one. Yeah, Billy,

1213
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: not a great couple of first reps there for bail.

1214
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: He's happy. Yeah. I do not see Matt Patricia right now.

1215
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: That was the person I was pointing out was not yet.

1216
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure where he is. Maybe he's working

1217
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: with Maybe he's down and he's down. Oh, there he is,

1218
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: He's down in Dante's inferno. There you go. So working

1219
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: with the offensive. Wow, not to read too much into it,

1220
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: but you know, was it be committee? And that's when

1221
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: we saw in the spring seven on sevens was Joe Judge,

1222
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: full team was Matt Patricia? Yeah? Yeah. And then we

1223
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: got Bill given a little one on one tutor session.

1224
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: Sure who that was eighty eighty three. Oh that's a

1225
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: little Jordan. Well Jordan. Little Jordan came came late in

1226
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: the process. I know he's got at least one big

1227
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: fan uh on Patriots Unfiltered listener last week. And I

1228
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: was very excited about that. But my wife should feel

1229
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: about me the way that guy feels about little Jordan humbul.

1230
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: She doesn't even like she's as much as he likes.

1231
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: He liked little Jordan. Uh, he was excited. But but

1232
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: he's yeas getting some extended you know, one on one

1233
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: time with Bill explaining them stuff. I mean, it's just, uh,

1234
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: it seems like Bill Belichick just loves any part of

1235
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: little football coach. You grab one random player to one

1236
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: random thing, and he loves it. I mean, here we are,

1237
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: day one a camp. He's talking a you know guy

1238
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: I got here two months ago, trying to coach him up,

1239
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: and we're dividing back up here. So we got what

1240
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: do we got down here? We got some get some

1241
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: punt gunner, Yeah, working on some I know that's you know,

1242
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: special teams path. It's it's one third of the game.

1243
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: I've been told. Yeah, I got the quote that I

1244
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: needed from Bill Belichick this spring about that. I'll be

1245
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: hammering that one home. But yeah, well the kickoff has

1246
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: pretty much been taken out of the game and it's

1247
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: not really much in the return game. Yeah. Then question

1248
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: in the back that why is it a third of

1249
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: the game? Math? Math? Math? So it's nice the quarterbacks

1250
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: have now moved. Uh. And it's like the backs and

1251
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: the receivers are down here right uh right below us.

1252
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: See what they're what got bruined. But it's like the

1253
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: defensive line working on some ball security, trying to knock

1254
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: the ball out of the quarterbacks hands. Maybe yeah, with

1255
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: sixty four, I believe his Lebryan Ray's train nix A

1256
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: eighty two, eighty seven, eighty seven seven, Okay, who's eighty

1257
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: two on the way, I'm sorry he is eighty two? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1258
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: sorry he thought last year he was eighty seven. My apologize. Yeah,

1259
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: he bobbled a punt and that's it was sent on

1260
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: the paces T. There it goes everyone's favorite freak out candidate,

1261
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: Paul's favorite block servations and somebody takes a lap. It's

1262
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: as lay up as they come. Question from Jacking and

1263
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Arbor asking about David Andrews on the pup list, are

1264
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: you concerned he might not be healthy enough to start

1265
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: the season on the active buster. Well, he spoke with

1266
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: the media yesterday, didn't seem too concerned. It seemed like

1267
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: they're just taking it slow, so I wouldn't be too concerned.

1268
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: I think James Farens is fine for training camp can

1269
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: give you a professional veteran in presence at center. Uh.

1270
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: And we saw Cody Russy do you know, undrafted guy,

1271
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: but we saw him do U do some snapping as

1272
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: well in minimum and getting a chances. He's some of

1273
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: the rookies, um, you know handle some of these punts too.

1274
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: I think that's Jack Jones, which one is fifty two?

1275
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Fifty two? Is that Marcus? That's Marcus? That's Marcus Jones

1276
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: is Jack. So that's good to see Marcus Jones get

1277
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 1: a chance. Now. He was absolutely electric in the return game,

1278
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's good to see him out here,

1279
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: as you pointed out right at the top of the show, Mike,

1280
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: not in the red jersey that we saw in the spring.

1281
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: And now take it a step further, he's getting some

1282
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: reps here. Um, you know, handling some punts. I think

1283
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: that's an area that they could use a boost in,

1284
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more consistency. I know, you know,

1285
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: they lost an All Pro in that department, but I

1286
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: think they could use a little more consistency in better

1287
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: decision making in that in that role. Yeah, and as

1288
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: well as uh, you know, Gunner didn't really get them

1289
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: much other than than punt return, you know, and as

1290
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: much as we wondered if you might have some skills

1291
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: to play receiver and some quickness, it's just that never

1292
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: quite clicked for him, even when you know there were

1293
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: some injuries that struck So maybe Marcus Jones. I mean,

1294
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit of a stacked depth

1295
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: chart in terms of guys that can play in the

1296
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: slot at cornerback, but he's another guy that you know,

1297
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: useful kind of piece. I think the question is you

1298
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of slow corners. How to guys match

1299
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: up on the outside. I mean we were talking about

1300
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: on the show last week, Paul, what a murderers row

1301
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: of receivers and weapons that you've you've got to face.

1302
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's just every week. If it's not Tyreek

1303
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Hill or Davante Adams or Jamar Chase. Uh, you know,

1304
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: it's just in Jefferson, It's just it's it's the fan digs,

1305
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: it's jal and Waddle, it's you know, just so many

1306
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: explosive weapons that they're going to have to face. And

1307
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, you really don't even need to, for me,

1308
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: get out of the division you start with with Wattle

1309
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: and Hill to what they're doing down in Miami, what

1310
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: they've done the last two years, the Patriots. Uh, and

1311
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: obviously we all know what Buffalo is doing and what

1312
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: they've got. So how do these cornerbacks kind of play out?

1313
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: And we're watching a little bit of Malcolm Butler as well.

1314
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd love to get that old Malcolm Butler,

1315
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: that feisty man coverage guy, but who knows. I mean

1316
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: that's a year off. We'll have to wait and see

1317
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, these are the kinds of things that

1318
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, you start to sort out when you see

1319
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: it a little bit when we moved to like the

1320
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: Carolina joint practices, and you'll see the groups that are

1321
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: all playing together, and then you go into the games

1322
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: and you're sort of see who's working with each other

1323
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: and you try to figure out, Okay, well someone is

1324
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: probably not healthy and not playing in the game at

1325
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: the time, so you got to figure out would that

1326
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: guy be in there? But this is when those those

1327
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: kinds of questions start to get answered. We started watching

1328
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: the personnel groups and drawing our conclusions as we see

1329
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: it looks like we're all coming back to the to

1330
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: the right side field, and it seems like Mapatricius got

1331
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: got a piece of paper out. So maybe this will

1332
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: probably be eleven on eleven then, or at least getting

1333
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: ready to do eleven on eleven. How the fun starts. Yeah,

1334
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I I think I kind of undersold it

1335
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: a little bit at the top. I mean, there has

1336
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 1: been uh, I mean, it's certainly been more little team

1337
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: competitive periods. It seems like, I mean not maybe not more,

1338
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: but at least equal to what we were kind of

1339
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: seeing in the spring, which was not much but yeah,

1340
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a continuation of the spring.

1341
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: I was worried this was just gonna be a nothing. Hey, hey,

1342
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: how you doing? Just getting to know you, you know

1343
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: with like trust falls and team building exercise, it's not

1344
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: really Yeah, everybody stopped smoking cigarettes for for a week

1345
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: and get themselves in shape. We gotta we gotta get

1346
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: over a wall without using anything to get a bucket

1347
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: of water across a rope. Swit. You know. That's gonna

1348
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: stay with seven on seven here, and Maddy p is

1349
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: over here this time for this, for this one with

1350
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Joe Judge. They're both here and it's the same as

1351
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: it always was. And the dump off the Steven. It

1352
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: was nice for them to do it down on our

1353
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: end this time. Yeah. Yeah, well we got a good

1354
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: we got a good spot up overhead here. Uh, you

1355
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: can't really get a bird's eye view of We moved

1356
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: here during COVID, and I don't think they're ever getting

1357
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: us down from here. Just so we have just looking

1358
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: at some of the defensive backs here. You have Terrence Mitchell,

1359
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: you have Kyle Dugger, you have Jalen Mills, Yes, Adrian Phillips. Yeah,

1360
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: you get showing that wade on the inside and the slot.

1361
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: So a lot of a lot of different, um, you know,

1362
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: personnel groupings. This is like I was just talking about,

1363
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: you sort of trying to figure out where everybody fits

1364
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: in and what might be the case down the road. Yeah, well,

1365
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean I think you know right now, just seeing

1366
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: McMillan and Wilson out there together, those are you know,

1367
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: two new faces. I mean, and I know, no we

1368
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: almost here briefly last year, but I mean you talk

1369
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: about the transitional linebacker, Guys that can run, guys that

1370
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: can cover. I mean they've been around the league a

1371
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, no offense to to Gilani Tavai

1372
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: or Harvey longye. Also you know guys who have played,

1373
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe more of the special teams kind

1374
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: of tip. And you know jo Want Bentley. A lot

1375
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: of a lot of eyes on him this year. I

1376
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: mean he's been here, he signed a couple of years.

1377
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, has the leadership. I got a really good

1378
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: year last year, got a ton of experience in twenty twenty.

1379
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: Back just misfires there in the back of the end zone.

1380
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: So let me throw one out at your early. Yeah,

1381
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: an unfair one, but That's what I do. Like that

1382
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones is on PUP. I mentioned this briefly at

1383
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: the start. He's a guy that makes a little bit

1384
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: of money. I see Sean Wade doing a lot of

1385
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: stuff in the slot. I saw a lot of that

1386
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: in the spring too. I'm just wondering if they're grooming

1387
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: him to maybe replace Jonathan Jones, if maybe Jonathan Jones

1388
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: could be one of those surprise cuts. I mean, I

1389
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: think it's a I think it's a great point when

1390
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: you whenever you look at the money and the depth

1391
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: at slot. I mean, I think the only the only

1392
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: reason for pause is just the overall turnover you've had,

1393
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: and you know, the experience that he you know, he

1394
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: has a brand new you know, and especially you know

1395
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: some of the experience he's had with Tyreek Hill. I mean,

1396
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: is that you know something you feel like you're gonna

1397
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: need with him in the division. Now, granted he's a

1398
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: little bit older, he's a little bit expensive. Look at

1399
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: you look at Miles Bryant, you look at uh, you know,

1400
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: like we mentioned with with Marcus Jones, I mean, all

1401
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: those guys kind of fit that slot kind of profile.

1402
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: Someone's got to go someone gotta go right. You can't

1403
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: have all of those guys. And I'm looking another guy too.

1404
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, maybe not in that mix,

1405
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: but but not far from it is blood spa. Another guy,

1406
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer rolls out and Christian Wilkerson with the touchdown. Now,

1407
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: I came into that play a little bit late, but

1408
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean that would be you know, that's kind of

1409
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: the uh this kind of play action rollback, and I

1410
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: don't know, like I was just thinking the same thing,

1411
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: like was that a designed because you just sort of

1412
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: like spun back and reversed to the you know, to

1413
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: his left. Is that's like the wide zone coming off

1414
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: the wide So I don't know if that was something

1415
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: that was called and he, you know, was pre planned

1416
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: in his mind. I'm gonna wait a split second here

1417
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: and then, or if he just bought a little bit

1418
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: of time and waited for Wilkerson to to pop open.

1419
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: That's a good throw from Mac to Parker, not Harry

1420
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: on uh yeah on Marcus Jones. Um. But that's you know,

1421
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a good example of Parker. I mean,

1422
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: it's a size mismatch. You know, you get Marcus Jones

1423
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: lined up on whatever Dante DeVante Parker is. Was he

1424
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: like sixty three? I mean it's you know, it's it's

1425
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: no question. And those are the kind of things I

1426
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: think they can you know, that they can exploit. Bill

1427
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: liked that one. It looks like Bill gave him a

1428
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: little out of boy. All the receivers want to uh

1429
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: rally around him for that one. Yeah. I like Mac

1430
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, firing that one in there that was not

1431
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: wide open. It was a little bit of a tighter ye,

1432
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tighter window. And I thought

1433
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: he got it in there nicely too, to to his

1434
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: newest h his newest toy, Poka. So you got Thornton

1435
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: out there now, Yeah, trouble getting away from Malcolm Butler

1436
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: and that time Parker touched down on the crowd out

1437
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh all right, and he just hurt himself. I kid,

1438
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: I kid. That was for Fred. That was Fred. Fred

1439
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: was listening. That was for Fred. Sorry, that's great. I

1440
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: can't hope it's great. Great play nice this, you know

1441
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: with with like with born In Parker, you see some

1442
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: juice with that wide receiver group, and I you know,

1443
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna need to uh create some of that energy.

1444
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: That was a nice play crowd one while Born came over,

1445
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: gave him him a jump, jumping a bump, and I mean, Paul,

1446
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: it looks like Patricia. It looks like Patricia calling the stuff.

1447
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, still seven on seven. But I mean

1448
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: you got there all like Bill has a you know,

1449
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: a card in his hand too. Oh how this one

1450
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: was not designed? That one was definitely not designed. He

1451
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: pulled that one down and then slid a little bit

1452
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: to his to his right head. Aggalore back end, Aggie Nellie,

1453
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: nice little play. And Brian Horrison. Nice a little session

1454
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: from Mac there, I mean, a couple of nice ones

1455
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: to Parker. Just love the pumping up the crowd. I

1456
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: mean it's just you know, people people here to watch

1457
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: this stuff. That's that's what they live for, getting DeVante

1458
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: Parker right up in their face, fired up, making a

1459
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: big catch. You've fired up, man, it's fired up. Let's

1460
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: see Clinton. Yeah so so. Charles writing in the same

1461
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: kind of question, wondering the whole mystery behind Matt, Patricia

1462
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: and Joe Judge, the clauses and their contracts with their

1463
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: former employers. Uh if the Patriots would have to pay

1464
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: them and hire echelon roles where they have to pay

1465
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: their mind raining balances. I mean, I think that's that's

1466
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: kind of something you've I think hit on in the past, Paul.

1467
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: Just you know, they're being still being paid by former teams.

1468
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: If you give them an offensive coordinator title, not only

1469
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, do you have to pay them? Does that

1470
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: cancel out what they're other teams playing them? So you

1471
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: know a little financial financial loopholes wherever you can find them.

1472
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: But I mean I do think that that is that's

1473
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: a question that they can be asked. Yeah, everybody literally

1474
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: my guess that that has something to do with it.

1475
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a funny picture right now. You literally

1476
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: have Joe, Judge, Bill Belichick, Mappatricia standing right in a row,

1477
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: each of the five feet from each other, looking at

1478
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: the play. I mean, I don't think that they're trying

1479
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: to be facetious, but it's but it's just a does

1480
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: it looks like Maddy p is talking into like the

1481
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: headset right now? It kind of looks like that to

1482
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: me from from afar, Please from A can't confirm Big Barnos. Yeah,

1483
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: Big Barnos do confirm Appatricia. So he has a headset on?

1484
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: Does does Joe Judge have a headset on. I mean,

1485
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: all due respect to headsets, he might not need one.

1486
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: He has a lot of voice. With all due respect

1487
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 1: the headsets, he does not have him on a wakee top. Now, okay,

1488
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: so so Alex, remember when I was talking about Mac

1489
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: Jones last year, I had very few plays that the

1490
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: ball didn't seem to come out very quick, and it

1491
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: was kind of atypical of a lot of rookies. And

1492
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: you see that was a Bailey Zappie rep right there,

1493
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: and he probably held the ball for ten seconds. You know,

1494
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: he pump in, he was moving, he was waiting because

1495
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: he's probably not quite as certain as of what he's

1496
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: seeing as you know, a guy with a little bit

1497
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: more experience. And I thought that's what really jumped out

1498
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: to me with Mac Jones last year was as a rookie,

1499
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: he couldn't tell he was nervous. It was just like

1500
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: he did wasn't like sure of where he wanted to

1501
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: go with the ball wars. Mac generally did know where

1502
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 1: he wanted to go with the ball on most players

1503
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: last last summer. And I think that was what was

1504
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: really that really stood out training total contrast exactly what

1505
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: I said, kind of at the top. Just interesting to

1506
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: kind of compare and contrast each year when you have

1507
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, a little one off the beaten path.

1508
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: Here from from Destiny writing in. It's only your second

1509
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: time writing in. But uh, she wanted she wants us

1510
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: to laugh a little bit. But how do we feel

1511
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: about the Bears receiving Cord now? With Nikkil Hare? I

1512
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: feel bad for Justice Field. That's the weak crop of talent.

1513
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: What was the caller we had in from He was

1514
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: calling in from Chicago yesterday saying he thought he was Yeah, yeah,

1515
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: what would you rather? Would you rather Patriots go ohen

1516
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: seventeen or Nikil Harry leads the league and receiving what

1517
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: with Harry? What with Harry? On that one? As much

1518
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,959
Speaker 1: as it pains me, I look forward to the potential

1519
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: of um whispers coming out of nikkiel now that he's

1520
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I wonder if he'll start talking. I agree, Yeah,

1521
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on. I mean, it's

1522
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: a great you know, look, it's it's followed quickly by

1523
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: the entirety of Patriots Nation ripping him for doing it. Yeah,

1524
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: it's I mean a good opportunity for nikkil you know.

1525
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about you want to go to

1526
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: a place for a reset. You got a young quarterback

1527
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: with a big arm, not really much to work with.

1528
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean, how much would Chicago love it for him

1529
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: to come in and contribute? But all right, we're going

1530
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: to some It looks like there's some eleven on eleven. No,

1531
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: not even not even almost. It's like like eleven on

1532
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: seven maybe, but it's a nine on seven down and seven.

1533
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: They look like they got the full numbers are hard. Yeah,

1534
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: I can't count, I have I can't talk all right,

1535
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: but you know what I can do a little offensive line.

1536
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: Uh look, see here, let's give a Lukie loop. That's well,

1537
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: let's talk about what you get down there. Yeah, let's

1538
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: talk about the Parker, the out sorry of the Parker.

1539
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I keep talking about Parker, the win and Trump Brown

1540
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of switch. I mean, that seems like that is

1541
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: continuing to be the case. Trump Brown has has been

1542
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: consistently a left tackle, as a Win has been consistently

1543
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: a right tackle. Same kind of group we've we've seen

1544
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: that we saw in the spring. So it seems like

1545
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: there's definitely something there to that kind of rejigger of

1546
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line with Cold Strange coming in, and of

1547
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: course James Farrens is working a lot with the top

1548
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: group today with Michael and when you at right guard

1549
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: and wo numbers Farents sixty five, sixty five, Bubba, doesn't

1550
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: he just look like a guy that they called I mean,

1551
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of football. I don't know if

1552
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: I call it royalty, but Ferrence, it's like Iowa football

1553
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: just heaven. Yeah, we've gotten to that point of practice already,

1554
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: still earlier than normal, start starting starting to die down

1555
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, this uh, some makeshift work. Eleven

1556
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: on eleven I think is what we're getting for the

1557
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: most Partyeah. Well, you've got the defensive linemen with with

1558
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: with those blocking pads. So it makes me wonder if

1559
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: this is kind of runfit stuff and maybe maybe going

1560
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: over some yeah, some of their sets, you know, maybe

1561
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: this is uh maybe some inside zone work. Now hard

1562
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: to tell, but yeah, it certainly seems like you a point, Mike.

1563
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: The Trent Brown Isaiah wind swap looks to be more

1564
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: of a permanent thing. Yeah, and we'll see if if

1565
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: things change. But this has gone on you know now

1566
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: four or five, six, times that we've gotten to see them,

1567
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: and that's that's been the lineup every time they've both

1568
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: been out there. Yeah, such it. I mean I figured

1569
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: I saw bringing up but talking about well maybe they

1570
01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: want strange to be surrounded by, you know, two veterans.

1571
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: But I don't know, is it. I mean, what does

1572
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: it really make that much of a different I think

1573
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: it's a pretty simple equation to me. And I think

1574
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: they feel like Trent Brown's a better player than Isaiah

1575
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: went and and I if that's the case, then I

1576
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: think that's exactly what you do. And I have to say, like,

1577
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good. I mean, I don't feel like

1578
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: this is you know, one of the top three five

1579
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: lines in the league. But I think if they stay

1580
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: healthy that they can be a very good offensive line.

1581
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: And you know, but it's just staying healthy. I think

1582
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: that's the biggest key. And I think that's why kind

1583
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: of people sleep on them. Let me not sleep on them,

1584
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe underrate them a little bit is

1585
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: just because of the injury history. And you know, every

1586
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: time it kind of comes up, we get a caller

1587
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: a question that brings up, well, who's up when Trent

1588
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: Brown goes down? Who's up when Isaiah wind goes down?

1589
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: But I mean those are good questions. Those are good questions,

1590
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: and and it's you know, are we in that that

1591
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: rare version of the multiverse with doctor Strange, that like

1592
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: this is the year that all of them stay healthy

1593
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: and that you know there. I mean there have been

1594
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: years like that with the Patriots where it's just wire

1595
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: to wire, right, And I do think I do think

1596
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: there's some questions. I know, Warren Sharp, who does a

1597
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of that football analysis, I think he had the

1598
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: Patriot's offensive line at seventeen. He's seventeen or eighteen something

1599
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. But I do think if you look

1600
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: at it on paper, you might say, well, that seems low.

1601
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: But they lost two starters from last year, and they

1602
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: really only replaced one by drafting Cole Strange in the

1603
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: first round. They had a guy who obviously they didn't

1604
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: feel was as good as the guy's playing last year

1605
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: who's now plugged in. I think he's fine. I think

1606
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: you a point about him playing right guard is a

1607
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: good one. Might I think he's probably more suited to that.

1608
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: I think he played better there as a rookie than

1609
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: he did last year, you know, sort of moving around

1610
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think if Brown and Win

1611
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: boths stay healthy, I think the offensive line will be fine.

1612
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a dominant group, and I think

1613
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: a big part of improvement that you might see is

1614
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: going to be on Mac. Yeah, like that backside, I

1615
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: mean that front side pressure that seemed to bother him

1616
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: from the first snap of the season all the way

1617
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: through the end of the year. That can't be an

1618
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: issue anymore. That can't be an issue anymore. He's gotta

1619
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: he's gotta get he's got to get to the bottom

1620
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: of that. I don't think he was consistently under a

1621
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,919
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pressure last year, but there were specific

1622
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: blitz is that he seemed to have a hard time recognizing. Yeah,

1623
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: for sure, unless little touchdown scamper there by Romandre Stevenson,

1624
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: Mac Jones given n I tell you, Paul, I mean,

1625
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: you've been all over Mandre this season, and I feel

1626
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are starting to come around

1627
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: to what you've been saying, Paul. I feel like for

1628
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: for the whole off season of you know, there's a

1629
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: lot of intrigue. I think will Romandre Stevenson and the

1630
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: question is, you know, can he just kind of get

1631
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: that rhythm and get into enough carries and you know,

1632
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: that consistency where he can be every week in week

1633
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: out a problem. I think last year it was sometimes,

1634
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: it was sometimes yeah, Harris, but you never really had

1635
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: that game where they both were just going off, they

1636
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: were both healthy. You had guys in and out. I

1637
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: don't know how much is Strong and Harris are going

1638
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: to factor into this immediately, but I think I think

1639
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: Stevenson could really could really be onto something this year.

1640
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: Bertie Phil Perry's and all over that train. Yeah, yeah,

1641
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: he's He's very high on on Stevenson's ability to to

1642
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: maybe take a take it to the next level. And

1643
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: so there's there's Time Montgomery getting a carry out of

1644
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: the backfield as well. So saw him a lot with

1645
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: the receivers in mini camp. But it's just an example

1646
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: of a guy that can do a lot of things,

1647
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 1: and just you can't ignore those guys on this roster,

1648
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: especially if injuries start to pop up. You know, we

1649
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: know on them about White James Taylor is strong, going

1650
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: to be ready to go. I mean I think he

1651
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: could pretty easily see Time Montgomery playing a role in

1652
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: the backfield in Week one on passing downs, James Taylor, huh,

1653
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: James Taylor. So it's a little uh fire and rain.

1654
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was a lap. No, not not not

1655
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: a lot, not a lot. It's not a lap, it's

1656
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: not a pick. Got Anthony Jennings down there, man, God

1657
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: bless God bless Matthew jude On and the full I

1658
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: mean he is rocking the full red sweatshirt. He's playing

1659
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: into the red sleeves of it all. But it's a

1660
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: brand to him. I think he asked him last year

1661
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: and he was like, I always wear sweatshirts. That's kind

1662
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: of his, kind of his thing. We'll see if that

1663
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: holds next week. If it gets like a little steamy

1664
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: out here, like a wrestler trying to cut weight, yeah, right,

1665
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: running around, he's probably gonna have to wrestle. Shoot a

1666
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: little shoot, wrestle. Shoot. Do you get that reference house?

1667
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure she doesn't. I'm just laughing and nothing. Now.

1668
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: It's a Vision Quests eighties movie, classic early eighties cheese,

1669
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: high school wrestler's kid. He's got it. He wants to

1670
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: wrestle that, he wants to wrest the best wrestler in

1671
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: the area and he has to lose weight to do it,

1672
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: so he wants to wrestle shoot balls in love with

1673
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: Linda Fiorentino. I mean it's a great, great all around

1674
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: sounds like it checks all the boxes. Yeah, I feel

1675
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: like what we should have done in the last couple

1676
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: of weeks was like, Alex, you got to watch Godfather

1677
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: at least two or three times and Jaws at least

1678
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: two or three times. If you want to see Godfather,

1679
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: just not Jaws. Oh wow, I need another beer? You call?

1680
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: You never seen it, so you never really just flip

1681
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: on the TV on a weekend and randomly go to

1682
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: TBS or or AMC where it just seems to always, always, always.

1683
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen it flipping through the channel, just not

1684
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: for its entirety. The only clip I can really remember

1685
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: that I have like a core memory of it is

1686
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: just like the worst prop shark i've it was the seventies.

1687
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 1: I know Steven Steilbert did a great job, but somehow

1688
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: it's it's always on. Somehow, it's always on, somehow I

1689
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: always watch it, and somehow I always then get a

1690
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: text from Paul and or Hardy watching it as well

1691
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: at the same time pouring out some little bit of minusha.

1692
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: Oh did he hold on down with it? Nope? Nope,

1693
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: So that was Max always throwing a Parker. I don't know,

1694
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: they're celebrating like he did. The defense was celebrating and

1695
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: the ball was over there. I don't know. I don't

1696
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: know what happened on that play. I don't think he

1697
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: survived the ground on that one, but but he seems

1698
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: to be acting like he did. The offense is definitely

1699
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: celebrating like it's a touchdown. Yeah, the defense was celebrating

1700
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: like it was a stop and the ball wasn't really

1701
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: close to anybody by the time they all got up

1702
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: off the ground. But that was Parker again, by the way,

1703
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: with more of that enthusiasm, that energy, and a similar

1704
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: kind of here. It wasn't like he was wide open.

1705
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy on him, but that's what

1706
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: he does. That's what he does. So Montgomery back in

1707
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: the back, in the backfield, now back and a little

1708
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: completion to Kendrick Thorne with ray Kawa McMillan covering him.

1709
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: He seems he seems to be celebrating. The other the

1710
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: rest of offense not so much. Yeah, I mean that

1711
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: wasn't really I was about eight yard short of the

1712
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: goal line. I'm not sure that there was a touchdown there,

1713
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: no celebration for me, guys, what's going on here? That

1714
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: may have been a no gain in life? Yeah right, well,

1715
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: I think yeah, Ray Qualmill probably would have probably would

1716
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: have wrapped them up and throw him down. But uh,

1717
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, the same triumvirate here of look at this

1718
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: guy at the triumph all right, it's flanked on either

1719
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: side by Joe Judge of Ma Patricia. I mean, you know,

1720
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: three p's in a pod uh oyo to Montgomery a

1721
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: little bit behind him, and low life man would probably

1722
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: had a sack and tackled him on that plane. No,

1723
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: that was that was last year. The first time we

1724
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: mentioned Josh Jay today. And uh, I know, I think

1725
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: high hopes, high hopes to see that, you know, he

1726
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: can really contribute this year, maybe pick up six seven

1727
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: sacks something like that. I mean, I don't necessarily need

1728
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: him to be an every down player, but I think

1729
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: he needs to be a disruptive player when he's out there.

1730
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: And now Brian Hoyer in and now that's a long time,

1731
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: but does complete it to Taekwon Thornton that one ten seconds. Yeah,

1732
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: So I mean these are the things that you kind

1733
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: of I was mallet esque. Maybe maybe now it's a

1734
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: good time Paul to do a little talk about training

1735
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: camp stats. Good example right there, as you know, hey,

1736
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer one for one, caught it, Tykwon Thornton caught

1737
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And that's why I don't do stats, and

1738
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: that's why when you look on pagriots dot com, you're

1739
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: not going to find those stats. I'm sure you can

1740
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: find them elsewhere, but probably will. I think that there's

1741
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: uh there, I don't know if he was in don

1742
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: That's a great throw by Hoyer, I put it, yeah,

1743
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: perfectly outside. Nice catch by Thornton. I mean, you know

1744
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: it hasn't been much, but you didn't yet. Yeah. Absolutely,

1745
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: Parker and Thornton have have have have shown up a

1746
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: little bit here today on the first day when they

1747
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: were down doing those like red zone throws closer to us. Uh.

1748
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: Tai Kwon got some good separation, showed off like the speed,

1749
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: but Bailey just way overthrew it. So it's kind of

1750
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: like missed opportunity to to see taekwe Yeah, well, I

1751
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: mean he's it's interesting. It's it's hard to watch him.

1752
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: And I don't want to compare him to Randy Moss,

1753
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: but I think those tall, lean guys that are really

1754
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: fast are kind of hard to gauge. I think, you know,

1755
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: even defensive backs had had trouble with Randy Moss just

1756
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: because he would gather so much speed, you know, and

1757
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: and those long legs. It never looks like he's really

1758
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: going that fast. But I mean, he's cooking. I wonder,

1759
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to see with a guy like

1760
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, who's just electric and five eight and you know,

1761
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: but these taller guys, I mean, I do think the

1762
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Thornton speed shows up even when he's doing little stuff.

1763
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: But you know, what does it look like when he

1764
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: gets a step on somebody and he's able to pull away?

1765
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the stuff that I want to

1766
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: see when he's got the ball in his hands, um,

1767
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: you know as much as that, Hey, let's see him

1768
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: get downfield and you know, see Mack hit him down

1769
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: the sidelines. Let's see him, you know, just a little

1770
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: underneath stuff and see what he can do. All right,

1771
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: here we go back back in its back and yeah,

1772
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: that looks like fifty nine and fifty two. These are

1773
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: the place like when Mike talks about stats and things

1774
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, so there's no pads, so the offensive

1775
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: line is sort of powerless to like do anything about

1776
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: a guy running full speed at them, you know, to

1777
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: try to keep them away. I mean, obviously they're working

1778
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: on their footwork and their hand placement and whatnot. But

1779
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: and this is something that's getting cracked down on more

1780
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: and more in recent years, any kind of contact at

1781
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: these things. And the leagues get to watch some of

1782
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: this video and all it takes is, you know, one

1783
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: one bad practice tape, you know, with some you know,

1784
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: too much contact and you end up in trouble. You're

1785
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: getting fined and even worse it sometimes with you know,

1786
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: with draft picks. I think Baltimore has had some some

1787
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: issues with that too. I think Chicago may have at

1788
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: some point. So, like it's it's tough. It's tough to

1789
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: deal with the pass rush when you're in that setting.

1790
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: Is that it's our boy folk? Hope my beer kind

1791
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: of kicks some field goals here? Hold this, this is

1792
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: the U Eric Scalavino Honorary field goal Kicker. What's he doing.

1793
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: What's he got on his arm? He's got some kind

1794
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: of giant pad on his He's gonna rash. What is

1795
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: going on? So let's see he's not right? What are these?

1796
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: What's that? I think a twenty four yard field goal?

1797
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah hh yeah, swing of the right leg, um,

1798
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: I think, So, I don't know, look good to me? Yeah,

1799
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: you call it good, Alex's you're gonna have to tell

1800
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: us a field goals are good or not. Thoth of

1801
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: those were good, I think because Paul doesn't have very

1802
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: good eyesight. I mean to be fair, Paul, it's the

1803
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: death perception that's hard to get. If you just look

1804
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: at the field goal post to the left. If the

1805
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: ball disappears behind yellow for a second, that is what

1806
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: I try to That is what I try to do.

1807
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 1: But I think it just transforms into a yellow brownish

1808
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: blurred skin through the agent. It was rather exhilarating. So

1809
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: this is what thirty maybe thirty one? I can't Yeah,

1810
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: that looks thirty. Although it's a little weird, Paul, because

1811
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: the the field goal markers are a good ten yards

1812
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and back of the end of the end zone, which

1813
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: seems like they shorten the fields. Perhaps Oh yeah, you know,

1814
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: so you're you got to add another ten Yeah. They

1815
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: definitely shortened the fields, at least the parts of painted,

1816
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: because it used to be up to the forty both ways.

1817
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Now it's only up to the thirty. I'm gonna have

1818
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: to probably get that in my heads, get that in there.

1819
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: I have to get in bed in my blog today. Great,

1820
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: the grass looks great too, I think they're I mean,

1821
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: it's green, so you're right. Um, I probably would tack

1822
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: another ten yards onto these, I mean the great The

1823
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: great thing about this stuff is you can do two

1824
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: practices on it. Go home, get someone to the Bejesus,

1825
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: I knew you were going there. I knew you were

1826
01:26:54,160 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: going there. God bless California, Sensimia, God bless your deuce. Ah.

1827
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: So we got some guys working on looks like punt

1828
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: blocks here, which you know, after a big couple of

1829
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: years of Special Teams plays, not as many Special Teams

1830
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: game changing plays last year, something they're probably looking to get. Unfortunately,

1831
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: they had quite a few game changing plays. They're just

1832
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: negative the three block blunts, punts. Yeah, some misques that

1833
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: looks like a really fun droll just jump. Yeah, I

1834
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: want to take you throw your body into the thing

1835
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: and we go nick folks. So I guess this would

1836
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: be like yeah, and it's up and it's good. Kick

1837
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: was like low and yeah, I'll take your word, I think. So.

1838
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I think that one, that one looked the goodest of

1839
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: all of them to me. And now we're coming back

1840
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: onto the main field. Well, I think there's a good

1841
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: side though. If they're you know, doing this much interesting

1842
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: competitive stuff the first day, I think they'll probably be

1843
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good platter of it over the next few days.

1844
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: If you're thinking of coming on down here to check

1845
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: out some practice. There's definitely been some highlights to watch

1846
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: for sure, some competitive portions, I mean, not as crazy

1847
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: as things will get once the pads come on, but

1848
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: some to watch, you know. And again we're seeing it's

1849
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get a little bit of eleven on

1850
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: eleven work here down at the ten yard line, and

1851
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: these would look like a lot of a lot of

1852
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: the big dogs up here, but we're still seeing you know,

1853
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Sean Wade Bledsoe, those guys in the mix as well,

1854
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: with the defensive side of the ball, and Max flushed

1855
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: out of the pocket and he's got time Montgomery. It's

1856
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: a nice, little nice will throw. Not sure if he

1857
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: would have been sacked, but he's able to get away.

1858
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise was in there with with some pressure as

1859
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: most of it. Seems like most of the enders are

1860
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: the ones, especially the front seven guys in the offensive

1861
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 1: line of the ones wearing those headpads. So makes sense.

1862
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that probably banging their heads the most.

1863
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: I know us we got so yeah, I got I

1864
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: think Nick folks did Nick folks work too? At one

1865
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: point I get all these kickers confused. I was looking

1866
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: at Tristan Viscayno, who hasn't done any real kicking yet.

1867
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I don't know. He might have won two. Oh,

1868
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 1: that's a good defensive play by Jalen Mills. Yeah, speaking

1869
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: of number two. Yeah, trying to go to trying to

1870
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: go to the contested catches again with Parker in the

1871
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. But and now it's Mills,

1872
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Mills trying to bring a little energy to the crowd,

1873
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: a little quiet tonight, the green guy other than the

1874
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: other than in yeah, other than when incited by the players.

1875
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: I think the players are bringing the energy, exciting, excitement.

1876
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: They incited a riot. So Mattie Mattie P one niner.

1877
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: It's only Dilwaukee talking. Yeah, Morelwaukee talkie from MATTIEP. And

1878
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: the defense uh yeah, huddled up as well. So Parker

1879
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: had another touchdown in this drill. You you guys were saying,

1880
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: uh not not not this one. That was just the

1881
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: just the breakup target. I saw that one. I just

1882
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: I've seen him and get what two one down, one

1883
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: down here and one down there. Yeah, but you know,

1884
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, you know, it's hard to pump

1885
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: one or two plays up too much. But yeah, at

1886
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: this point it's all you got. Yeah, here we go again,

1887
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: a little rep loven on eleven. Another nice pass defense

1888
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: by your boys. Let's I don't don't call it. I can't.

1889
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: He's a blood so he's got to be your guy, Paul, Oh,

1890
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: he's not bub Bloods. That's the thing. I'll never get

1891
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: used to his name, being like you gotta change your

1892
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: last name. I only have room for one bloz crush.

1893
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah it's true. But you know, yesterday somebody called in

1894
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: and was asking about like a dark horse sleeper kind

1895
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 1: of guy. I mean, I think Josh Bledsoe, I mean, granted,

1896
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: at the hard parties. He's a stack position group with

1897
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: veterans over him that you know, you're kind of penciling

1898
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 1: into play again. They keep you know, drafting these safeties

1899
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: and signing these kind of hybrid safety guys. But he's

1900
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: been in the mix here all spring and right now

1901
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: coming to the training camp back of the end zone.

1902
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: Oh nice throw and throw and catch. Yeah, Brian Hoyer

1903
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: to Devin Asias right in the corner, back corner of

1904
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the end zone. Perfect pass by and uh and it

1905
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: was beating mccordy and coverage too, so you know, like

1906
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: you might say, oh, well it's Hoyer or Nasias, but

1907
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: you know there's there's still some front line guys out

1908
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: there on defense. Yep. And again that was another one

1909
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: of those you know, hierarchy passes to the back pylon.

1910
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: There you go over the line of defenders with a

1911
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: net love when it all, it all comes together, when

1912
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: the plane comes together, Mike. Unfortunately, that's about all I

1913
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: got today. Oh interception Joe, is that Nixon? They can

1914
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: need to play? Uh. You know, another interesting little tidbit

1915
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: I saw there. Paul was my guy yesterday. Kind of

1916
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: a dark horse Henry Anderson. Uh, watching him drop out

1917
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: into coverage. Um, you know, it's just something He's kind

1918
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,879
Speaker 1: of traditionally been more of a up the field, defensive

1919
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: end kind of a player, especially when he was with

1920
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: the Jets. But uh, that's why I had him as

1921
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: a dark horse. I think they need edge guys. He

1922
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: might be more of a hand down guy. But I

1923
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: think that REP showed you, you know that that he

1924
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of work on his on

1925
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:32,719
Speaker 1: his feet player. Not much open. Yeah, everybody's covered. Everybody

1926
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,520
Speaker 1: covered on that one. Yeah. Defense has been much stronger

1927
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: and this set of sevens than they were the last one. Yeah,

1928
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: And obviously a needed play for Juwan Williams, who was

1929
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: thrust into into action last year in the playoffs when

1930
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Jay lit Mills went on the COVID list after you know,

1931
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: starting seventeen games, you gotta go into the playoffs. And

1932
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, Joan Williams last year here one of the

1933
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: last guys standing from that draft class. And I mean

1934
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of a now or never for

1935
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: a guy like him, especially where we first got here

1936
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: is behind Stefan Gilmore, J C. Jackson. You know there

1937
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: there's nobody like that here now. So if ever he

1938
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: was going to step up. Good little start for him. Paul,

1939
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: here's a good one. I wanted to ask you about

1940
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: actually yesterday a little you might know the answer to this.

1941
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Bucks signed Julio Jones? Yeah,

1942
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I think Julio Jones is close to to being done. Yeah,

1943
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: but I mean I think it's a good depth move

1944
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: for them that, you know, I don't know what godwin

1945
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: situation is. Um you know how ready he'll be. I

1946
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: would think that he'd be off to at least a

1947
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: slow start. Yeah. So it's a good depth move. And

1948
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Brady likes his veterans right just for how many years people,

1949
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, banging the Julio drum to get him here.

1950
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 1: It's finally get a chance down and Tampa to play

1951
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: together with Tommy Mac for the back of the end zone. Oh,

1952
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: nice play, nice plays. Nice job by Agalore over Malcolm Butler,

1953
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler Mac that corner of fade. Nicely done. Yeah,

1954
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's uh. I don't want to say they're

1955
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: overboard with the celebrations, but I really like the the

1956
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: overall energy, the support, you know, guys making plays, everybody

1957
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: coming over, high fives, you know, I think it's just

1958
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: something you hope where you see guys getting together in

1959
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: the offseason, working together that you know, they're starting to

1960
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: build some some chemistry, some camaraderie. I mean, I hope

1961
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: they're hearing a lot of the narrative of you know,

1962
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: that that they're not good enough and and you know,

1963
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: hopefully that's motivating them as as a group to you know,

1964
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: try to elevate everybody and get to the next I

1965
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting to hear Bill so positive yesterday.

1966
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: I think that he probably feels like they need some

1967
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: of this positivity they've heard. You know, they don't need

1968
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: any of that other stuff they need. They need to

1969
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 1: hear how good they are. And you know, I wonder

1970
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: if maybe that was a an indication of him trying

1971
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: to pump them up a little bit for sure. I mean,

1972
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 1: I you know, it's one thing to you know, it's

1973
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: your quarterback, and of course, but I do I agree

1974
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 1: with you in terms of it just felt like Damian

1975
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Harris getting the crab pumped up a little bit. Dan

1976
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: there's a little toss off walking, but but again, the

1977
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: whole team coming over all the offense high and that

1978
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: was a big one because the entire defense had to

1979
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: do some push ups and it looks like they're all

1980
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: you can finally work my running up that hill reference in.

1981
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for us here today. Great

1982
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: first day as training camp. Definitely a little bit more

1983
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: action than than we even anticipated. We will be back

1984
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: here tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel, nine fifteen am.

1985
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: We'll be coming at you. We'll see what changes are made,

1986
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 1: if anything, probably a similar type of practice. But of

1987
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: course I want to thank all you guys for your calls,

1988
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 1: your emails, everything. Were appreciate all the support, and we'll

1989
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow to share everything else that's going on

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01:35:55,080 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: with Patriots training camp. Thanks for joining us, Thank you

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