Speaker 1: Live from Hollywood Park. It's the fifteenth annual Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: Mark Draft, your must have final compendium to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three NFL Draft. I'm justin Graver. You may know
Speaker 1: me as Grave Digger. And now here's your host, the
Speaker 1: old Zeusser himself.
Speaker 2: Dan hands a.
Speaker 3: Wo wow, hello and welcome.
Speaker 2: That's sit down, everybody please.
Speaker 3: Studio audience is just packed people waiting outside since four
Speaker 3: am to be at the twenty twenty three Mark Sessler
Speaker 3: Mock Draft. Yes, the the fifteenth annual. And yes, as
Speaker 3: you heard in the intro there, my name is Dan Hansson.
Speaker 3: My favorite team employees Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Yeah too too, too too South.
Speaker 3: I am your host, but I am not alone. My
Speaker 3: co host for the festivities. To my left, you know
Speaker 3: who it is. He is the the White Magic to
Speaker 3: my bird Lord, the Blackbird to my Magic. Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Oh, thank you, and yeah, that was me cheering
Speaker 2: you on because I'm not just an analyst today. I'm
Speaker 2: a fan. This is one of my favorite days of
Speaker 2: the year. I sit back and I enjoy the show
Speaker 2: like a fan.
Speaker 3: I'm the same way. I mean, starting on Thursday, Greg,
Speaker 3: the center of the universe is Kansas City. But right now,
Speaker 3: for all intents and purposes, it is the Westling Podcast
Speaker 3: Studio and it's all because of one man, and I
Speaker 3: think it's time to bring him out.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 3: He is the man behind the mad genius that is
Speaker 3: the mock draft. He is. He is the man that
Speaker 3: spits in the face of the industrial draft complex, who says,
Speaker 3: how you do it is wrong. We want three day
Speaker 3: work weeks. Ladies and gentlemen, give a warm welcome to
Speaker 3: Mark Sessler. Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's still got a folks.
Speaker 2: Handsome cent of Again, look at this crowd.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Mark, What did the crowd think they were coming to see?
Speaker 4: They've certainly been a price is right tape. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, here we are.
Speaker 3: They were expecting Drew Carrey. Instead they get us, Mark, unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Where are the nerves right now? As we as we
Speaker 3: look ahead to another big time Mark Sessler mock Draft
Speaker 3: the fifteenth.
Speaker 4: I understand the question, but what I I to my
Speaker 4: to respond? Honestly, I feel no nerves because what I've
Speaker 4: done and this is what my process. I've cracked the
Speaker 4: code in terms of mock drafts, where the effort is minimal,
Speaker 4: the results are there is a whatever happens happens. I
Speaker 4: will go on. The sun will rise the next day.
Speaker 4: So nerves is the opposite. I feel joy about the
Speaker 4: entire process. It was quite an arduous hour and twelve
Speaker 4: minutes I spent on this last evening hour. Twelve Yeah,
Speaker 4: I went over, I went I actually broke my own rule,
Speaker 4: but I actually went up and got up and made
Speaker 4: a pot of coffee in the middle of it all.
Speaker 4: So I guess that brings it closer to an hour
Speaker 4: and two minutes or so.
Speaker 2: Any concern though, this year that you're starting to share
Speaker 2: the stage, that you're you're the long standing host, this
Speaker 2: is your fifteenth season, and you see the up and comer.
Speaker 3: Right on the It's Judeo for so long, Mike.
Speaker 2: Mayock right, and suddenly Daniel Jeremiah is on the desk
Speaker 2: next to you.
Speaker 4: You know, I think in a lot of areas of life,
Speaker 4: you feel that you're being phased out, and this is
Speaker 4: just another effort to fit seamlessly in with other aspects
Speaker 4: of what's happening here at this company in terms of
Speaker 4: my place in the company.
Speaker 3: So it is if you watch Succession sometimes you could
Speaker 3: feel like a Karl in this world. Absolutely give it
Speaker 3: up for Karl from Success, a guy who knows he
Speaker 3: had his time in the sun. He did huge things
Speaker 3: with Cable in the nineties, but now it is time
Speaker 3: for someone else to move in. Only what you're saying
Speaker 3: is no, I got more to give, yes, and you're
Speaker 3: you're gonna try to fight back against Let's bring him
Speaker 3: in right now, Grave Digger justin. We're gonna bring in
Speaker 3: later in terms of getting into your picks. But I understand,
Speaker 3: based on the energy around the show heading into today,
Speaker 3: that this means a lot to you.
Speaker 1: It does mean a lot to me. I think, as
Speaker 1: you put it on Monday's show, it's a big opportunity
Speaker 1: for me to get my mocked out there to the people.
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of pressure. I put a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure myself to do well with that. You know,
Speaker 1: I really want to beat Mark. So that's wow.
Speaker 2: He's putting it out there, He's speaking it into existence.
Speaker 2: The nervous energy coming from Grave Digger before the show started,
Speaker 2: before that interro, it made me feel alive. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: we've done thirteen hundred shows. It made me feel live.
Speaker 2: I love it. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: That was ten feet underground before I saw Justin.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait until Thursday night as we're going
Speaker 2: through all these picks live on our live stream on YouTube,
Speaker 2: seeing the emotions between Justin and Mark. So this is
Speaker 2: like the first part of it, and then we get
Speaker 2: the entree on Thursday night.
Speaker 3: Great call, and that's a great plug again. Thursday Night
Speaker 3: Live with the start of the draft eight pm Eastern,
Speaker 3: five pm Pacific, we will do a live stream sitting
Speaker 3: through the entire first round, probably unless it's going very poorly,
Speaker 3: and then we may parachute out after about an hour
Speaker 3: or so. But the plan is to go for all
Speaker 3: the aready one and I think if you're a fan
Speaker 3: of this podcast, even more reason now to check out
Speaker 3: the live stream because we will have real time reaction
Speaker 3: to the mock drafts and last year. Maybe Justin, I
Speaker 3: know you know this. You did very well last year.
Speaker 3: Do we have any of the data points in terms
Speaker 3: of last year and how you guys both did.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how Mark did, but I was listening
Speaker 1: to his mock draft on the way and this morning
Speaker 1: from last year to get a feel for the show. Wow,
Speaker 1: and he actually picked Traylon Burks to the Titans.
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember it was a big rivalry him versus
Speaker 2: Norris last year.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: Well, Norris, who had come off an excellent previous with
Speaker 4: the whole country right, he got waxed personally, and I
Speaker 4: remember that trailing Burks might have been the only one
Speaker 4: of the only players I'd nailed.
Speaker 2: So take away with Graver he was the best.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and Aiden Hutchinson at the top, but then
Speaker 1: he had Sauce Gardner going to the Texan same position.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's close, but okay, not out there.
Speaker 3: So here we go. It's time, without further ado, to
Speaker 3: get into it. Everybody up there, do you want to
Speaker 3: you want to get into it? Well, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Mark Sessler the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Let's go
Speaker 3: through the top of the first round.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, all right, we have the Carolina Panthers obviously
Speaker 4: at number one, and I'm going Bryce Young. I think
Speaker 4: we all at this point just assume that's what's happening.
Speaker 4: It would be somewhat of a stunner if they went
Speaker 4: in another direction. Would you agree?
Speaker 3: Actually I would agree, but I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys saw some movement in the desert. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: there's some pop about Will Levis shock in the world
Speaker 3: at number one overall. I don't buy it. I just
Speaker 3: want to say it's out there. I don't know, GREGI
Speaker 3: you know that world more than us. Why would that
Speaker 3: be happening right now?
Speaker 2: I no longer know that world. I am not a
Speaker 2: member of the Detroit Lions, and I'm gonna stay in play.
Speaker 2: Apparently came from some Reddit post, which is crazy. But
Speaker 2: even Levis's odds changing, still, he was a massive, massive underdog,
Speaker 2: even after getting closer. Uh, and I think, yeah, the
Speaker 2: world shares your view mark that anything but Brayce Young
Speaker 2: would be absolutely stunny.
Speaker 4: I mean, if something else happened there this month has done. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you just you light a match to it right.
Speaker 2: Away, presumably including Justice.
Speaker 3: Right, I would. I would assume it's your number one, Right,
Speaker 3: We'll get to Justice, all right, go ahead? Okay.
Speaker 4: So at number two, the Houston Texans. I know that
Speaker 4: there has been a lot of talk about them going
Speaker 4: Tyree Wilson at number two, but we talked about this
Speaker 4: on the show yesterday. The Tomico Ryans is an Alabama product. Uh,
Speaker 4: you've got Will Anderson junior and edge, who is a
Speaker 4: generational hammer dropping talent that you can build an entire
Speaker 4: defense around. I think there's a lot of connective tissue
Speaker 4: between Dimico Ryans and what he can do with Will Anderson.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna go defense here. This This could
Speaker 4: be quarterback, but there's just been. It started with our
Speaker 4: guy Lance Sealing. There's so much heat around it being
Speaker 4: a defender that I'm swinging the fences with Will Anderson here.
Speaker 3: I think that's so the Texans stay home and I
Speaker 3: would stay home. In your in the mock draft universe,
Speaker 3: the idea of trading, and I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: going to be coming later at some point. Yes, it
Speaker 3: adds to the stress level, right, because if you miss
Speaker 3: on a very specific prediction, the whole thing goes up
Speaker 3: and flames, and.
Speaker 4: I specialize at that.
Speaker 2: If for some reason, though, Will Anderson went third to
Speaker 2: the Texans, we will give it to you if you
Speaker 2: get the right I think for both of us, because
Speaker 2: they traded out right.
Speaker 4: I think for this contest, if you get team and
Speaker 4: player match.
Speaker 3: You get it. You're good, all right, go ahead up
Speaker 3: a right number three. So we do have a trade
Speaker 3: at number three. They talked about yep, holy god.
Speaker 4: Well and then everyone stero reaction from the audience to
Speaker 4: this these turn of events. The Cardinals, you know, they're
Speaker 4: in rebuild node. They trade the pick to the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 4: and the Titans are not coming up here to get
Speaker 4: a you know, a swing tackle. They're going Will Levis,
Speaker 4: quarterback out of Kentucky. I gets a bit of an upset.
Speaker 4: You could go Anthony richardson there, but I think they've
Speaker 4: fallen in love with Will Levis behind the scenes, and
Speaker 4: this will trigger at the end of this production. I
Speaker 4: have seven what I'm calling seven sports locks, and we'll
Speaker 4: get to part B of this. Uh then. But so
Speaker 4: at this point, it's going to be Will Levis to
Speaker 4: the sports. There's some football, and we span the whole
Speaker 4: world of sports.
Speaker 3: That's excellent, that's gutsy. That's the type of thing you've
Speaker 3: been known for over the last fourteen years and now
Speaker 3: fifteen years. I have the I'm curious if this plays
Speaker 3: into my sandwich prop. Now, if Will Levis ends up
Speaker 3: on this team, and really you would think Ryan Tannell
Speaker 3: could be on the move. I think that's you could
Speaker 3: connect those dots they can recoup a draft pick.
Speaker 4: Might be one of those sports locks in that work.
Speaker 4: We'll say, but you're right, But you're right. I think
Speaker 4: that would a would lead to be.
Speaker 2: And you could see that happening even if they were
Speaker 2: trading up to six or eight. And like I said,
Speaker 2: I think we'll give you credit if you somehow nail
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gutsy as hell, and I'm on board
Speaker 3: with We haven't seen everything that the Tennessee Titans are
Speaker 3: doing yet because I think they're going into a rebuild
Speaker 3: and starting over with Levis. I'd respect it. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 3: respect it, all right. Number four, all.
Speaker 4: Right, the Indianapolis Colts, they need a quarterback too. They're
Speaker 4: not gonna rest on that front. They're going Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4: I love the idea. If you just think where we
Speaker 4: were with Jalen Hurts two years ago. I know there's
Speaker 4: concerns about Richardson's accuracy. It's like historically an outlier. Yet
Speaker 4: this is a player with incredible potential athletic freakishness that
Speaker 4: I think Shane Stikeen is the right coach at the
Speaker 4: right time to build a quarterback for the Colts. They
Speaker 4: haven't had a draft pick this high since they picked
Speaker 4: Andrew Luck, and before that it was not as high
Speaker 4: as Peyton since Peyton Manning. So you go quarterback. You
Speaker 4: don't mess around here, You get the most talented guy
Speaker 4: left on the board at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing makes sense. What did Peyton Manning and
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck have in common entering the league?
Speaker 4: They were the sons of pro football quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: What else did they have in common?
Speaker 4: Big time experience at the college level.
Speaker 3: Yes, and also they were seeneads, big fourheads, generational talents.
Speaker 3: They were seen as can't miss slam dunk picks and
Speaker 3: Richardson is not that Richardson is very much. I mean
Speaker 3: when I saw I saw a rotal World blurb headline
Speaker 3: today NFC coordinator Colin Richardson's accuracy so scary, and I
Speaker 3: was like, wow, this guy can put it on the
Speaker 3: money too, click into it. They were saying, how a
Speaker 3: short game is no terrible, It's a problem that his
Speaker 3: big arm and all the other stuff. Some teams might
Speaker 3: be scared by that element. Now, you could, obviously, as
Speaker 3: you mature as a player, look at Josh Allen as
Speaker 3: an example, clean up that element of your game, then
Speaker 3: the sky's the limit. But it is a pick that
Speaker 3: would come with some risk. But obviously, and Greg, we
Speaker 3: know where you stand on this, your love affair, a
Speaker 3: lot of reward for the Colts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the accuracy stuff is overstated because he's
Speaker 2: pretty accurate ten year, ten yards on and they asked
Speaker 2: him to do that so much that weirdly. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: short game, that's a problem he's got. He's got to
Speaker 2: work on that. But it's been very quiet on the
Speaker 2: Colts Richardson front. A lot more Colts Levis talk. It
Speaker 2: would be fascinating if the Colts are on the board
Speaker 2: here and have a choice of either Stroud or Richardson.
Speaker 3: Three out of four qbs.
Speaker 4: So far, yeah, which I think I think that'll happen,
Speaker 4: but that there could be a muddled mess here in
Speaker 4: terms of it Levis being the flipped to number four there.
Speaker 4: I played with that for a roughly four and a
Speaker 4: half minutes last night when I did this very.
Speaker 3: Good it is.
Speaker 2: Dude, were you worried about drinking the coffee midway because
Speaker 2: you said it was after midnight to us before the show.
Speaker 2: The coffee kind of kicks in and you're done because
Speaker 2: you had that hour limit, and.
Speaker 3: He's not sleeping anyway.
Speaker 4: Right. It wasn't even like I woke up at the minute.
Speaker 4: I just was up at twelve thirty and decided it's
Speaker 4: time to get going on this, all right, Number five?
Speaker 4: I think this this just makes sense to me. I
Speaker 4: think this is one of Greg's sandwich props to Jail
Speaker 4: and Carter, to the Seattle Seahawks. I think it's a
Speaker 4: cultural fit. If the guy culture fit, well, if you
Speaker 4: go to the wrong team, maybe Jail and Carter. We
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on. There's some is some some
Speaker 4: concern about his effort on the field, and there's the
Speaker 4: off the field stuff. I like the idea for Pete
Speaker 4: Carroll and Jail and Carter, and there you really change
Speaker 4: that defensive front.
Speaker 3: Hey, Grave Digger is culture fit on our bingo board
Speaker 3: that we'll be using on Thursday for the live stream
Speaker 3: for tropes of Draft.
Speaker 1: I will make a note to add it because I
Speaker 1: didn't have it.
Speaker 3: But it's great.
Speaker 4: Culture part of my role to include some of that job.
Speaker 3: You're part of it, yeah, Machine, even if you're kind
Speaker 3: of an outlier and for some people a menace, you're
Speaker 3: part of it. Yeah. You're just kind of what's the
Speaker 3: Star Wars thing. You're a the You're the big the rebellion. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're han solo.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean the crowd is telling you the response
Speaker 4: to that peril.
Speaker 3: With the blind guy from Eating Rainbow. You got the
Speaker 3: whole crew.
Speaker 4: Should we press on?
Speaker 2: Here? He he always saw himself as a Harrison Ford Mark.
Speaker 3: So I could see him wearing a brown vest in
Speaker 3: about six Absolute fiction, Go ahead, number six.
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, Miss Hyrie Wilson goes here, and you can
Speaker 4: pair him with Aiden Hutchinson. Aaron Glenn has a lot
Speaker 4: going on on that defense, and they needed help, and
Speaker 4: I don't I think Edge fits for them. I think
Speaker 4: that's a it's a good situation.
Speaker 2: I could see you also like driving the planes later
Speaker 2: in life. Maybe I mean you're flying the planes, just
Speaker 2: saying yeah.
Speaker 3: So in this reality, and there's logic, obviously, the Seattle
Speaker 3: Seahawks coming off a double digit win season and a
Speaker 3: playoff berth and the Lions coming off a double digit
Speaker 3: season win season, they win ten.
Speaker 2: Seahawks only won nine, okay, but a playoff season and
Speaker 2: the lines obviously every nine has been great. They each
Speaker 2: had nine wins. The tiebreaker was that regular season Gino
Speaker 2: before five point bomby both these teams.
Speaker 3: Both these teams pass on the opportunity to bring in
Speaker 3: a quarterback given coming off a big year or a
Speaker 3: successful season. I have an issue with both those teams
Speaker 3: passing on what seems like a unique opportunity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think Seattle certainly is comfortable with
Speaker 4: Gino Smith obviously and what they have for him for
Speaker 4: a number of years. It would have been a good
Speaker 4: place to develop like an Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3: But C. J. Stroud continues to drop here. I think
Speaker 3: that's notable noting it. I'm clocking it. Number seven.
Speaker 4: Another team not going quarterback, The Raiders go cornerback Devin
Speaker 4: Witherspoon out of Illinois.
Speaker 2: About their physical player.
Speaker 4: They've been talked about, They've been linked to a cornerback,
Speaker 4: and I think that you know, a lot of people
Speaker 4: think Witherspoon's the best guy. He had the best, one
Speaker 4: of the best seasons ever grated by PFF last year
Speaker 4: in college.
Speaker 2: Feel cornerback is so unpredictable. But then again, you look
Speaker 2: at last year and sas Gardner, you see what kind
Speaker 2: of impact that could have a cornerback can make and
Speaker 2: Witherspoon to me seems like I know there's an argument
Speaker 2: between him and guns offs, but feels like the NFL
Speaker 2: there's more teams that like Witherspoon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem like when there's a big time
Speaker 3: edge player and a big time cornerback, it's the edge
Speaker 3: player absolutely that ends up going ahead. Look at Trayvon
Speaker 3: Walker last year. Yeah, as an example, but you're seeing
Speaker 3: it this year with even in your own mock draft
Speaker 3: here with Will Anderson, Jalen Carter and yet, like Greg said,
Speaker 3: if you get a cornerback who hits the ground running
Speaker 3: and they ken straight out of college, changes your defense.
Speaker 4: And they've they've tried to do this and they've they've
Speaker 4: missed another.
Speaker 3: Feel like they've been adding guys in their secondary forever
Speaker 3: and it never works. So I'm dubious, but it's a
Speaker 3: different brain trust. How about number eight?
Speaker 4: All right? Uh, my guy, Tyler Ljier is not going
Speaker 4: to be thrilled with what I did here.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he did it.
Speaker 4: Oh yes he did. Because I'm going Bijon Robinson to
Speaker 4: the Atlanta fe because I think this is the offense
Speaker 4: they want to be. It's a huge help to Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 4: I kind of am starting to believe that they want
Speaker 4: Desmond Ridder to be the guy, and there would they
Speaker 4: They're going to pass on CJ. Stroud here too, But
Speaker 4: I think B John Robinson is going to go higher
Speaker 4: than people think. I can't leave him seeing him down
Speaker 4: at nineteen and twenty. In some people's mocks.
Speaker 2: When I canceled out Sandwich Props because it seemed too safe,
Speaker 2: was Falcons take the first offensive weapon in the draft,
Speaker 2: and so that would be either B John Robinson or
Speaker 2: a wide receiver or maybe even a tight end. But
Speaker 2: that that felt too vague. I like them doing can
Speaker 2: we do this?
Speaker 3: Can we can we bring in B John Robinson Falcons
Speaker 3: fans twenty eighty three was eight years ago? Greg, this
Speaker 3: is a classy help the audience program here. I love it.
Speaker 3: Bejon Robinson and then Arthur Smith. Go get Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 3: and then can we actually be a real have a
Speaker 3: real team that you could look at as a contender
Speaker 3: in the NFC because I would feel that good about
Speaker 3: the Falcons.
Speaker 4: I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Falcons fans like you?
Speaker 3: Makes sense? That's not a shot against Desmond Rinterer. But
Speaker 3: they're making a lot of moves this offseason like they're
Speaker 3: ready to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's year three. I mean you have to turn
Speaker 4: this thing around.
Speaker 3: By you even have the Does it mean you're quitting
Speaker 3: on Desmond Ridder if you bring in thirty six year
Speaker 3: old rynd Tenne, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: No. Number nine, all right, Number nine Chicago Bears. This
Speaker 4: just fits in my opinion. Peter Scarnsky Offensive lineman Zach
Speaker 4: Martin KMP. I think you can put him in it.
Speaker 4: He's got shorter arms than some would like for a tackle.
Speaker 4: He played tackling college did very well, but you could
Speaker 4: put him at guard. I just think in Chicago you
Speaker 4: do everything you can to protect Justin Field's injuries were
Speaker 4: an issue at times last year. That line was a
Speaker 4: mess early on. It got a little bit better as
Speaker 4: a run blocking unit. But I just say you keep
Speaker 4: four to fying the front five.
Speaker 2: If they get this pick. If it happened as well,
Speaker 2: one of the reasons they traded down tonight, and I
Speaker 2: think they feel very comfortable with the positions that will
Speaker 2: be available there, whether it be defensive line or offense,
Speaker 2: especially offensive line that they might get their first pick.
Speaker 2: I think the offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: I think this is I think this is one of
Speaker 3: those picks that everyone is very confident about, and it
Speaker 3: makes so much sense for where Chicago is and what
Speaker 3: they want to do and how they want to protect
Speaker 3: justin Fields after he got beat up last year, I
Speaker 3: thought this was a chance because I know Joe Douglas
Speaker 3: is known to be aggressive when it comes to offensive linement,
Speaker 3: that they might try to maybe get ahead of nine
Speaker 3: and grab Scronsky. But after what happened with Rogers, I
Speaker 3: think they might be a little more conservative. So Chicago,
Speaker 3: that's a good one. That's locked and loaded.
Speaker 4: I think all right. Number ten Eagles. I love this guy,
Speaker 4: Lucas van Ness out of Iowa. I think this is
Speaker 4: an ascending prospect, this whole Titan, through this whole process.
Speaker 4: He brings brutality in might to a defense that lost
Speaker 4: a couple of people. You've got a new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: I just I think he fits so well with what
Speaker 4: the Eagles like to do and just damaging, you know, opposing.
Speaker 2: As a renegade in the mock draft sphere, how closely
Speaker 2: do you pay attention to let's say, Daniel Jeremiah maybe
Speaker 2: the leader of the entire industry what he's saying about
Speaker 2: this team, specifically.
Speaker 3: As a former.
Speaker 2: Eagles, And I heard him say he had fourd names
Speaker 2: that he said he almost was sure that the Eagles,
Speaker 2: it will be one of the four. And I feel
Speaker 2: like I can feel it was Gronsky, Paris Johnson, van
Speaker 2: Ness or Nolan Smith, and I think van Ness was
Speaker 2: his favorite.
Speaker 4: I would pay attention to Daniel Jeremiah, wouldn't go out
Speaker 4: of my way to not pay attention to him. If
Speaker 4: that's the If that's how you're asking the question, right,
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 2: Want you to take him down. I was trying to
Speaker 2: set you up.
Speaker 4: I think this is the.
Speaker 3: Renegade, rebel. You got to hit back at the fat
Speaker 3: cats that run and rule the industry. That's just well,
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah got to where he was without a few uh
Speaker 2: no knife and Mayok's back. He was the one calling
Speaker 2: up Al Davis and being like, you want to hire
Speaker 2: this guy wants.
Speaker 3: He's not just wholesome, he's the wholesome assassin. Don't forget
Speaker 3: that's part two. Yeah, And if you don't knife him,
Speaker 3: believe you me, he'll knife your ass.
Speaker 4: There is one disconnect though. What I mean he spends
Speaker 4: like se I don't want to spend seven or eight
Speaker 4: months doing what he does.
Speaker 3: It's like might want is paycheck. All right, that is
Speaker 3: your top ten before we take a break, Grave Digger,
Speaker 3: Let's see your top ten, all right, and see how
Speaker 3: it's the same and how it's different.
Speaker 1: All right, here's a little side by side. I also
Speaker 1: have Bryce Young, will Anderson as the top two picks.
Speaker 1: I do not have any trades in the top five,
Speaker 1: So I have the Cardinals staying put in grabbing Tyree Wilson.
Speaker 1: As much as they want to trade down, nobody is
Speaker 1: willing to pay the price to come up that high.
Speaker 1: The Colts so connected to Will Levis, even with Stroud
Speaker 1: and Richardson on the board too, so you think that
Speaker 1: that's going to be the pick. And then I did
Speaker 1: buy into this recent report that the Seahawks are targeting
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson at five. So that's where my third quarterback
Speaker 1: goes off the board.
Speaker 3: And when this budding rivalry here in the in the
Speaker 3: mock draft Renegades division, like right off the back, Greggie,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a top five that has some big
Speaker 3: differences and someone. There's a good chance someone's out to
Speaker 3: a big lead right off the back.
Speaker 2: Right, that's Grave Digger. Had it nailed the top ten,
Speaker 2: it's easier to get the top ten, right, that's your
Speaker 2: better chance. You start with a lead, you get one
Speaker 2: or two right over the other guy, and suddenly it's
Speaker 2: an avalanche. That's what happened last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what Justin's looking to do here. How
Speaker 3: about your next five in the top ten.
Speaker 2: I have noticed a Grave Digger has made some very
Speaker 2: beautiful graphics you can check out on our YouTube, and
Speaker 2: I think they're even more beautiful because this is his day. Great,
Speaker 2: like a little extra effort.
Speaker 1: What dig In on that nice one? All right? My
Speaker 1: next six picks, starting with the Lions at six. This
Speaker 1: is where Jalen Carter I think his floor is. If
Speaker 1: the Seahawks don't take him at five, makes sense, I
Speaker 1: don't think he gets further. I also have Devin Witherspoon
Speaker 1: here for the Raiders. I've seen reports that it's Devin
Speaker 1: Witherspoon or Peter Scroansky for the Raiders. So in this scenario,
Speaker 1: I think Witherspoon gets to seven. But if the there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk. The Lions could take him at six,
Speaker 1: in which case Skearanski could go seven, or the Raiders
Speaker 1: could take Christian Gonzalez at seven. And then I have
Speaker 1: a trade up here as whoa I like this. It's
Speaker 1: the same team trading up, the Titans coming up from eleven,
Speaker 1: but this time they're trading back with the Falcons at eight.
Speaker 1: Seen a lot of buzz that the Falcons are are
Speaker 1: already making calls to move down. I think Albert Beer
Speaker 1: reported that DJ said the Falcons are expected to have
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on their board that they like
Speaker 1: at eight, so they'd be willing to move.
Speaker 2: They wanted Jon or Jackson Smith and jig By that
Speaker 2: that could be a trade down scenario. Don't get those guys.
Speaker 1: And then I also have the Bears taking to c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, yes, Titans take c J. Stroud, ending his fall.
Speaker 1: And that's all for the top four quarterbacks, and.
Speaker 3: So you eat both of our rebels. Here have the
Speaker 3: Titans starting over at QB with a top ten pick.
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of heat around there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, there's too much smoke there for it to
Speaker 1: mean nothing in my opinion, and.
Speaker 2: Very clever, too because your sandwich props, which I wanted
Speaker 2: to ding you on, was that there's no trades within
Speaker 2: the top seven picks. I could have sworn it was
Speaker 2: top ten. But you are very smart. You're consisting between
Speaker 2: the sandwich props and this.
Speaker 3: He's dangerous, Mark, Yeah, he is young.
Speaker 4: I do see a lot of shared concepts between us,
Speaker 4: but different names attached to those contents.
Speaker 3: And I know, same church, different pews.
Speaker 2: The way past this, but I pointed out how al
Speaker 2: Davis was the one that Mike hired Mike Mack. I
Speaker 2: do want to point out al Davis had been no
Speaker 2: longer on this guard for many years by that point.
Speaker 2: He was not a mistake by at that point.
Speaker 3: Twenty ten I believe he passed or twenty eleven in
Speaker 3: that range.
Speaker 1: All right, you have Paris Johnson junior at number nine.
Speaker 2: That's where Mark and catch back up a little scads
Speaker 2: to head offensive line.
Speaker 3: That would be a big shock. I think, I think
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 1: But the latest things I'm hearing I'm from little birdies
Speaker 1: is that Paris Johnson is more highly viewed by the
Speaker 1: league than he is by like mock drafters, and that
Speaker 1: the Bears spend a lot of time with him at
Speaker 1: the Ohio State Pro Day.
Speaker 2: What are the little birdies that move the sticks podcast?
Speaker 1: I cannot scan's got damn little arms.
Speaker 3: Nobody wants them little arms and sausage fingers.
Speaker 1: And at the time, I have the Eagles taking Christian
Speaker 1: Gonzales and I heard what you guys just talked about
Speaker 1: DJ saying the Eagles top four guys, and I totally agree.
Speaker 1: But in this crazy scenario where Christian Gonzalez falls to ten,
Speaker 1: I feel like the Eagles are that BPA kind of team.
Speaker 1: They just take the best player and they don't think
Speaker 1: Gonzalez is gonna make it to ten, and that's why
Speaker 1: he I mocked him here, although this could be a
Speaker 1: bit butt for me to go at.
Speaker 4: The point, taking out behind the building at this point
Speaker 4: gives you four names on the Eagles where he used
Speaker 4: to work, and you're just like thumbing your nose at him.
Speaker 1: Well, I did have Nolan, you never know. I had
Speaker 1: no Smith here initially, and then I was like, this
Speaker 1: is one of those weird things about mock drafting that
Speaker 1: I get trapped in where I'm like, Christian Gonzalez can't
Speaker 1: fall that far. He's too good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to cause them to recalibrate their thinking
Speaker 3: in real time. Perhaps let's take a break and we'll
Speaker 3: move to the middle of the first round.
Speaker 2: All right, they're right.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the fifteenth annual Mark Sessler Mock Draft,
Speaker 3: the Rebel Edition. The rivalry is real. As we move
Speaker 3: to the middle of the first round, Mark, back to
Speaker 3: your picks. Now, who is the first player picked outside
Speaker 3: the top ten on Thursday night?
Speaker 4: I like what Grave Digger said about Christian Gonzalez because
Speaker 4: I struggled with this too. He's at eleven to the Cardinals,
Speaker 4: who had done that trade with the Titans, so they
Speaker 4: can't pass them up. They need everything, so why not
Speaker 4: start here with a great cornerback anchor a defense that
Speaker 4: wants at every position. So that's that's my pick there
Speaker 4: at number eleven.
Speaker 2: Excited for Cardinals fans, the first draft without Steve Kim.
Speaker 2: It's a nice day. It's time to turn. It's been
Speaker 2: a bad offseason. We're turning the page. We're getting new Who.
Speaker 3: Was that again, I'm sorry I missed that one. Christian
Speaker 3: Christian goes all right, there you go, number eleven, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move to number twelve.
Speaker 4: All right, So this. This may be a little too
Speaker 4: rich and too dreamy for Texans fans, but somehow c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud falls all the way to number twelve and without
Speaker 4: having a maneuver up or down or cost them anything. Bang,
Speaker 4: they get their quarterback right there and they say it's
Speaker 4: two tests. We don't really care. We'll build our offense
Speaker 4: around Stroud one way or another.
Speaker 3: Can I push back on this one? Sure? If they
Speaker 3: didn't like c J. Stroud enough to take him at
Speaker 3: number two, that must mean they have some real reservations
Speaker 3: about him, right. They might not think he's a guy
Speaker 3: a dog, So why would you then use your number
Speaker 3: twelve pick on a guy that you didn't like enough
Speaker 3: to take when you own the draft boards.
Speaker 4: Like I said, this is a little rich and dreamy,
Speaker 4: But I think it's not that they don't like.
Speaker 3: Maybe think Ace is his u S two test, but
Speaker 3: during Thursday night he retakes it that what grades comment
Speaker 3: he's got to be would change things.
Speaker 4: I think that the number two thing has a lot
Speaker 4: to do with Demiko Ryans as head coach, and starting
Speaker 4: with the player, he can always sort of said this
Speaker 4: was my guy. I don't think this is anything to
Speaker 4: do with Nick Cassario at this point, who I'm not
Speaker 4: sure is even there in a couple of weeks. Uh,
Speaker 4: So Stroud falls to them. Like the other option is
Speaker 4: you can go Hennon Hooker, who's already you know, in
Speaker 4: mid twenty in mid twenties. I don't think they do that.
Speaker 4: So I think Stroud is just something you can't pass
Speaker 4: up if if you get to them a twelve already
Speaker 4: did well, this is at twelve, not number two. I mean,
Speaker 4: I I you're logically, I get what you're saying. And
Speaker 4: again this was a round minute twenty seven of sixty
Speaker 4: five for me. So it's I gotta keep moving.
Speaker 3: So, you know, great Glass like twisting his mustache with Lee.
Speaker 2: I think this is kind of candy though, because the
Speaker 2: Texans could trade up for Stroud too and will still
Speaker 2: give I don't know, half credit for that if it's.
Speaker 3: A team name for both of us, if they if you,
Speaker 3: if they take him at too, you still get credit.
Speaker 4: Gravers. We both felt that way that we were to
Speaker 4: score us both the same way. If they if they go,
Speaker 4: if it goes to the right team just where.
Speaker 3: That sounds good to me.
Speaker 4: So that was my strategy. That was that was kind
Speaker 4: of good trade up to seven or is it makes
Speaker 4: sense in the real world? Not at all.
Speaker 3: They kind of cover you. You have a little coverage there.
Speaker 2: No, you're I think Dan's point is right, though it's
Speaker 2: uh to Dave Gettleman's point. If I was gonna take
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones at eighteen, I'm gonna take that guy at six.
Speaker 2: That's my guy.
Speaker 4: Well, I've been saying it was a little rich and
Speaker 4: dreaming for a real for the real world, but.
Speaker 3: It's not reference scheduling too often, and you know, matters
Speaker 3: of draft strategy. I don't trade back, never trade back.
Speaker 3: Go ahead? Who needs this laugh track all the time?
Speaker 3: So the show has been missing go ahead, mark all track.
Speaker 3: This is a life I mean, strike that right down
Speaker 3: in the record them there strike that from the Reir.
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers. Uh, now it's time to start building
Speaker 4: around your quarterback. So they take the first wide receiver
Speaker 4: off the board, Jackson Smith and Jigba out of Ohio State.
Speaker 3: And of course this is the draft pick that they
Speaker 3: got from the New York Jets and the Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: trade moving up a couple spots.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because they moved ahead of the Patriots and
Speaker 2: they have the maybe the top two same needs as
Speaker 2: the Patriots.
Speaker 3: That's annoying too.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver and tackle. Well, I would have said the
Speaker 2: Jets were almost locked in to take a tackle there,
Speaker 2: and I think that's probably the most likely Patriots pick,
Speaker 2: so either way. But they also could take a receiver,
Speaker 2: which is a big Patriots.
Speaker 4: But they do not. In fact, they don't even trust
Speaker 4: they did the Patriots. The Maistriots do not.
Speaker 3: So you have I like it, by the way, for
Speaker 3: green Bay, it makes sense and if it annoys Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 3: even better. But Christian Watson was emerging as a star
Speaker 3: in the back end of last year. Now you pair
Speaker 3: him with a young, potentially dynamic receiver and Injigba, okay,
Speaker 3: we're cooking with a new quarterbacks combo too, skill.
Speaker 4: Or an argument for them to add a bunch of players.
Speaker 4: I like Watson a lot, but like they I think
Speaker 4: would love it.
Speaker 3: I believe they will add a bunch of players over
Speaker 3: the next But I said.
Speaker 4: That wide receiver and tight end, and for my sandwich,
Speaker 4: bet that they at least for.
Speaker 2: Take you on that it's too nebulous position.
Speaker 3: I couldn't take it was nebulous.
Speaker 4: That's okay, Patriots don't do what you think, Greg and
Speaker 4: never do. They probably will do what you think in
Speaker 4: the real world, but they go Nolan Smith Edge out
Speaker 4: of Georgia. I like just Belichick adding a defensive.
Speaker 2: Players looks like a guy they would love. You can
Speaker 2: character guy. Everyone says he's the greatest Georgia leader.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe it's maybe the answer is mac Jones.
Speaker 3: But Belichick, as we know, everybody's laughing on him at
Speaker 3: him about the guard he took last year, even though
Speaker 3: that didn't turn out poorly. He very rarely does what
Speaker 3: the draft industrial complex thinks he's going right, never mac Jones.
Speaker 3: Perhaps that kind of made sense in that moment, but
Speaker 3: for the most part, he's gonna.
Speaker 4: Strange not so much though supposedly they were going to
Speaker 4: take Elijah air A Tucker if the Jets hadn't traded
Speaker 4: up for.
Speaker 2: Him, which is a weird sliding doors.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Jets, is this their pick?
Speaker 4: It is and the Jets take Broderick Jones short of
Speaker 4: offensive tackle six five three and eleven pounds, one of
Speaker 4: the more rough and sullable big points in the draft.
Speaker 3: In the Jets fans there, it's great is that might
Speaker 3: say that yeah, I'll be dancing in the streets. Last
Speaker 3: year I picked sauce going to the Jets, and if
Speaker 3: I could do it two years in a row, yummy.
Speaker 3: That makes sense. They're gonna take the absolutely taking an
Speaker 3: offensive tackle, and then you could say, oh, look, why
Speaker 3: would they do that. They got Dwayne brown back, they
Speaker 3: got Makai becked in. Those are starters. There. There is
Speaker 3: no it's not a sure bet either of those guys
Speaker 3: or somebody you could trust to be on the field
Speaker 3: by week four. And both those guys are not under
Speaker 3: contract after this year, so they need to get younger.
Speaker 3: We started the position and add some much necessary depth
Speaker 3: after they were wrecked on their O line lineat year
Speaker 3: by injuries. Nailed that one.
Speaker 4: Mark seems like a home run. Sixteen the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 4: I feel like this team is sort of petrified, or
Speaker 4: Ron Rivera's for a frozen from chasing a quarterback or
Speaker 4: doing anything big because of what's going on there in general.
Speaker 4: So Ron Rivera does a very Ron Rivera thing and
Speaker 4: just adds up front offensive tackle Paris Johnson Junior out
Speaker 4: of Ohio State.
Speaker 2: They can use some tackle health taking in the top
Speaker 2: ten by Justin Graemer I feel like tackles get pushed up.
Speaker 2: Defensive linemen and tackles that people love getting pushed up,
Speaker 2: even when they're not that in love with them, and
Speaker 2: they bust quite a bit, you know people.
Speaker 3: So they are then they're serious about the Sam Howe thing.
Speaker 3: Clearly at this point.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's very little, very little out there
Speaker 4: about the Commanders being a team that's gonna suddenly do
Speaker 4: something stunning and go up and make a move at court.
Speaker 2: I think samehow and Jacoby Brissett for this year, and this.
Speaker 3: Is very yeah, very much. The ship is a neutral
Speaker 3: year for Washington. That's a field transition, right, make sense
Speaker 3: not to take a big swing at quarterback if you
Speaker 3: could build up the rest of the roster unless you
Speaker 3: love a quarterback right now. Who's the top prospect? Is
Speaker 3: it Hooker at this point? Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, all right, Pittsburgh Steelers number seventeen, Darnel Wright,
Speaker 4: offensive tackle, Tennessee. There's a couple of ways they could go,
Speaker 4: but I lack o run pinch me absolutely. I think
Speaker 4: this is like there, why not continue just to add
Speaker 4: pieces to a young offense. It's sort of all in
Speaker 4: the same contract. Bio rhythm right now. Their line got
Speaker 4: a little bit better last year as the season went on,
Speaker 4: but they need people and he could step right in
Speaker 4: and start.
Speaker 2: Here's whey tackles get pushed up because they are never
Speaker 2: available in free agency. And if you look through the
Speaker 2: thirty two rosters, there's about twenty three that have a
Speaker 2: need at tackle. Like you could slot these to practically
Speaker 2: any team.
Speaker 4: Well, you know my theory that I think that at now,
Speaker 4: as children by age three or four are just staring
Speaker 4: at screens instead of going out and like not a
Speaker 4: joke mowing the lawn and stuff. Yeah, when they are
Speaker 4: young boys like there, we're gonna have less and less
Speaker 4: big beefy linemen. They're gonna be less tough minded in general.
Speaker 4: They're already little little nuggets out there, but it's tougher
Speaker 4: to find these guys in general.
Speaker 2: And so we play outside kids, please right, I am.
Speaker 2: It's really up to you though. As a parent, I
Speaker 2: actually started walker mowing the lawn at two years old.
Speaker 2: Three was too late for me. I like it a huge, huge,
Speaker 2: like motor saw spinning as fast as possible. I'd say,
Speaker 2: Greg like buyd that with young kid, that is.
Speaker 4: That's noble some of the genetic material you're passing down
Speaker 4: would prevent Walker from becoming an offensive tackle that's not
Speaker 4: your faulther.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever is the most. Get a chainsaw in the
Speaker 3: mix as early as possible. It's good to get the
Speaker 3: kids in their motor.
Speaker 4: I mean thought the pressure on their.
Speaker 3: Motor reflexes and abilities early on.
Speaker 4: Get out there and do that farm work went while
Speaker 4: still a.
Speaker 3: Top What are they called iron sharpens, iron chainsaws, motor skills.
Speaker 4: Detroit Lyons first tight end off the board. They go
Speaker 4: Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame. They traded away TJ. Hockinson.
Speaker 4: This is a ready to go, polished tight end who
Speaker 4: can do a little bit of everything. And why not
Speaker 4: just add they've added defense. They got an edch go
Speaker 4: at someone to help Jared Goff on offense.
Speaker 2: Love it feels a little more like a lion than
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: I guess. My only question is like, why why try?
Speaker 3: Why trade t J. Hockinson to go draft another tight
Speaker 3: end when I.
Speaker 4: Know but I didn't love that trade to begin with,
Speaker 4: So just like, what is.
Speaker 3: All the time tighten? He's very rarely in the NFL
Speaker 3: in the first round turn into stars. So it's like
Speaker 3: you're just getting I guess younger and perhaps cheaper. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well TJ. Hockinson was a guy in the fourth
Speaker 2: year of a five year contract, and they also moved up.
Speaker 2: They got a second and a third and gave back
Speaker 2: a fourth. I mean, they got some nice picks, and
Speaker 2: that wasn't their guy. I think they've, you know, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, they didn't think he was. I think the
Speaker 2: hope would be Michael Mayer is a better player than TJ. Hockkinson.
Speaker 2: Not that Hockinson's bad, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean it is a positional need though, too. I mean,
Speaker 4: because of what they did. I'm with you, it's annoying
Speaker 4: to go to a guy and get.
Speaker 3: Another guy pretty good, even after it's okay, it's fine.
Speaker 3: I hope they don't do that.
Speaker 4: You know what if it doesn't happen in real life,
Speaker 4: you the good thing with this is you don't need
Speaker 4: to be concerned about it.
Speaker 3: Tune back in Thursday Night I'm Alive, and they replaced
Speaker 3: Jamal Williams with David Montgomery, So I guess I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have minded maybe them making that running back splash year
Speaker 3: but true, you.
Speaker 2: Know we're Ticke a receiver.
Speaker 4: Well I've done them wrong, apparently, right. So the Tampa
Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers they go Miles Murphy edge out of Clemson.
Speaker 4: I just feels like a Todd Bowles going defense here.
Speaker 4: They call him this year's version of Trayvon Walker to
Speaker 4: some degree. He's massive.
Speaker 2: That's at nineteen. That's a better spot.
Speaker 3: Perhaps the start to read, but at nineteen, yes, I
Speaker 3: like it better, toolsy all right.
Speaker 4: Number twenty, Number twenty, we have another tight adult and
Speaker 4: King Kaid goes to the Seahawks. Uh not number one,
Speaker 4: not the number one blocking tight end here, but he
Speaker 4: could be a centerpiece on offense. I'd like. I think
Speaker 4: the Seahawks definitely are a team that could a wide
Speaker 4: receiver here. I kind of went back and forth on that,
Speaker 4: but I think that they fall in love with the
Speaker 4: idea of getting a starting tight end.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they would love it if Smith and Jigba
Speaker 2: fell to them. There's a lot of slot receivers in
Speaker 2: this draft. They need one, so maybe they wait. Kincaid
Speaker 2: to me is the most exciting receiver I think between
Speaker 2: tight ends and receivers in this draft, like maybe the
Speaker 2: highest upside of anyone helps Gino Greg passing on Richardson
Speaker 2: and your mock and then taking a weapon for him.
Speaker 4: That's the way to go.
Speaker 3: We've got Noah Offen and Will Disley on that depth
Speaker 3: chart right now. How was fan last year?
Speaker 2: Okay, you can find down.
Speaker 3: Disley was really promising. I think he had an achilles.
Speaker 3: I believe it was.
Speaker 4: It's not like a screaming need. But fans in the
Speaker 4: final year of his contract. You know, Seahawks do weird
Speaker 4: things too, They're not going to just.
Speaker 3: I think this is more of my hesitation. It was
Speaker 3: a knee injury that for Disley. But anyway, Uh, I
Speaker 3: guess I'm just spooked by tight ends.
Speaker 4: I'm just spooked.
Speaker 3: You know, we need the NFL. It seems to be
Speaker 3: it's like a tight end to come kick some ass,
Speaker 3: come into the league and go full ground.
Speaker 4: I think Kyle Pitts did did harm to you.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a Howard. This class is maybe the best
Speaker 2: tight end class of the last debody seven or eight.
Speaker 3: Somebody be a good looking guy, somebody, I don't care what.
Speaker 3: Somebody be good, that's all that's. Somebody be a Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl player before year two. One of these tight ends.
Speaker 3: Save it for the last who was the last one?
Speaker 2: I mean Pitts I think is going to be fine.
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews came in and was good close pretty much
Speaker 2: right away, but that was five years ago now, so
Speaker 2: that was a w I mean.
Speaker 4: Not to almost say that Hawkinson's been one of the
Speaker 4: better results and he's not earth shaking.
Speaker 3: If we don't have one of these tight ends that
Speaker 3: are entering the league this year in a Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: in the next three years, I don't want to ever
Speaker 3: hear about the tight end classes being great ever again.
Speaker 3: Just strike it ever again, ever again. Okay, strike it
Speaker 3: from the first round conversation. Treat them like tight ends.
Speaker 4: You have that power.
Speaker 3: I mean running backs.
Speaker 2: I want to see if Mike Graver put some tight
Speaker 2: ends in his eleven to twenty.
Speaker 3: What number was that? Yeah, that was twenty.
Speaker 4: With Justin's eleven three check with the mock that might
Speaker 4: completely devastate mine.
Speaker 1: To stay confident marked or or who knows which way
Speaker 1: we're going to go here?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: My eleven had I had the Falcons trading back with
Speaker 1: the Titans to eleven and that is where they take
Speaker 1: Beijeon out here the where's the this one. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I did it for the trade oup you want it
Speaker 1: for them all the more sounds the better. Huh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: At number twelve, I have another trade up. This one
Speaker 1: is the Steelers better. The Steelers, who have been rumored
Speaker 1: to be making calls to come up, trade up to
Speaker 1: number twelve. The Texans. They took will Anderson in the beginning.
Speaker 1: None of the other quarterbacks made it to them at twelve,
Speaker 1: so they trade down to seventeen and the Steelers grab
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Broderick Jones since Paris Johnson.
Speaker 3: Bad news just off the board, I know, very just
Speaker 3: incredulous look from Rosenthal as soon as you watched this one,
Speaker 3: What do you mean why you did it?
Speaker 2: I think I was show the replay of his face
Speaker 2: when it happened. I was looking, I was reacting to
Speaker 2: the sound effects. I don't know, and I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: I didn't give Broderick Jones to the Jets. You know,
Speaker 2: Kevin Colbert never Yeah, I used to trade the Steelers GM.
Speaker 2: He did that, make that mink up Fitzpatrick trade. But
Speaker 2: that wasn't like a draft trade. He wasn't a guy
Speaker 2: who ever moved. They do have a new GM Omar Khan,
Speaker 2: So I guess they could look at it a little differently,
Speaker 2: but would be changing from the norms.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe, and maybe these these rumors are you know, just
Speaker 1: smoke screens. But there it has been out there that
Speaker 1: the Steelers are trying to come up for a tackle
Speaker 1: or for Jalen Carter if he were to fall, which
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Let's get it makes more sense when the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 3: have a position of strength on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: They're the Steelers. Let's get back to that. It does
Speaker 2: make sense. I think they'd sit there. I do want
Speaker 2: to point out to make up some rules as we
Speaker 2: go here. Now, if Bijon Robinson actually gets drafted by
Speaker 2: the Falcons, but he gets drafted eighth as Mark said,
Speaker 2: and Justin has them eleventh, I think the rules should
Speaker 2: come up with some sort of bonus for Mark here.
Speaker 1: You know, well, we're gonna need to maybe we can
Speaker 1: come up with like a trade nailing bonus. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the trade element is just for fun and
Speaker 1: the real like concess here is going team player.
Speaker 3: Match, so like we'll work SOMETHINGO, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, to me, that would be a tie breaker
Speaker 2: if like there was a tie. You're correct, spots, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because like you shouldn't. You shouldn't get it.
Speaker 4: That's our third or fourth team player agreement thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think four Yeah, the offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You're all completely different though. Let's keep going through them,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Thirteen I have the Packers taking best player available to
Speaker 1: Luke van Ness. I know there's all this like buzz
Speaker 1: about them taking a wide receiver a tight end, but
Speaker 1: that's just like, that's not how they operate, and I
Speaker 1: don't know why they would change that starting this.
Speaker 3: Year fight fight.
Speaker 1: It's a really deep class wide receiver and tight end
Speaker 1: and second and third round, so I think they So
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 2: Think Mark's a dummy?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4: That's the subtext to me.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand why this is starting a fight, But.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: At fourteen, I have the Patriots taking Peter Scaransky. He
Speaker 1: goes off the board. Patriots do their own thing. They're
Speaker 1: like short arms, who cares, he's a good tackle. We're
Speaker 1: gonna plug him in.
Speaker 3: See that. It would be great the Jets once Scronsky
Speaker 3: drops or like they call up the Packers and they
Speaker 3: get they switch again. That would be great. They take
Speaker 3: Scronsky ahead of New.
Speaker 2: England maybe a similar a better prospect to Isaiah Win
Speaker 2: who also they thought would move to gret and they
Speaker 2: never did and ended up being a bad pick.
Speaker 3: All right, fifteen.
Speaker 1: Fifteen, I got the Jets taking Darnell Right, He's maybe
Speaker 1: the cleanest like pure right tackle evaluation in the class.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, we're questions about his character, but I
Speaker 1: think that the Jets will like him and get him
Speaker 1: in there, you know, get him at the fixed that
Speaker 1: tackle position since McKay Beckton can't stay healthy. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on, I got the I mean as.
Speaker 2: A new weird character draft analyst, maybe can you be
Speaker 2: more specific when you said weird character issues? That just
Speaker 2: feels like a broad brush.
Speaker 3: Is he just like a strength?
Speaker 2: I do hear anything about that?
Speaker 4: So I'd like to hear.
Speaker 1: There were some questions that came up about his like work,
Speaker 1: ethic in practice. There was some weird like Twitter DM
Speaker 1: exchanges that he like posted this like somebody posted screenshots
Speaker 1: of him getting in people's dms with like kind of
Speaker 1: weird messages. I wouldn't let that affect my football evaluation
Speaker 1: of him, but.
Speaker 3: The Jets are a little scarred by another guy been
Speaker 3: has similar not creeping into people's dms, but like does
Speaker 3: he love the game? Is he a hard work or
Speaker 3: would they take a chance on that. I don't know
Speaker 3: about that one.
Speaker 1: But also right also like he shut down Will Anderson
Speaker 1: like he was really good against Georgia. Like he's he
Speaker 1: was just lights out into this. Yeah it has been
Speaker 1: and move on, we're creative here, moving on. We got
Speaker 1: some yes we do have. I'm just going crazy because
Speaker 1: what the heck, nobody's going to get this right anyway? Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So sixteen, I have the Commanders taking Joey Porter Junior,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of smoke there, Like a lot
Speaker 1: of mocks have that happening. So I'm just following the chalk.
Speaker 1: At seventeen, where the Texans have traded back with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: I have them taking quarterback Hendon Hooker. Texans have been
Speaker 1: doing their homework on Hendon Hooker, They've been meeting with them,
Speaker 1: They've met with them multiple times throughout the process, and
Speaker 1: I don't see how they can come out of this
Speaker 1: draft without a quarterback just to like say we took somebody.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a realistic possibility if
Speaker 1: they trade back gets an extra pick.
Speaker 3: Notice how the graphic, Because Grave Digger is great branding,
Speaker 3: Mark has an equally great nickname in my opinion, quiet Storm.
Speaker 3: Why isn't a quiet Storm versus Grave? That's why you
Speaker 3: just Mark versus. That's a good reporters question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pure oversight on my part, mono symbolic, like, hey,
Speaker 5: here's the middle manager versus check out monster jam Saturday.
Speaker 1: So far, this pod is billed as the fifth annual
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler Mock Draft, so I wanted to keep that consistent.
Speaker 1: Sure we don't call it the annual Quiet Storm mock Draft.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like, hey, cool Creeve Digger, you wouldn't want
Speaker 2: your daughter to date him versus like insurance salesman Mark Sessler.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark on, I'm totally checked out.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, he's a top ten football insider. All right?
Speaker 1: Moving on, Yeah, let's wrap the Sublets go yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I have the Chiefs trading up to eighteen with the
Speaker 1: Lions to take Zay Flowers is the number one receiver
Speaker 1: off the board. A lot of smoke there, bucks. I
Speaker 1: have taking Anton Harrison quarter offensive tackle lot of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: This is like one where people are saying that league
Speaker 1: is higher on him than the mock drafters. So I'm
Speaker 1: just taking a throwing a dart here, okay. And then
Speaker 1: I have the Bills trading up with the Seahawks to
Speaker 1: take Jackson Smith and Jigba. The Bills are like, wow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe he's still on the board. John Schneider
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks always trying to trade back, so they
Speaker 1: pull that off, and the Bills get their slot receiver
Speaker 1: to either take over for or replace Davis going there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think if you get Hopkins, I've got a
Speaker 2: real proposal. If you get a trade and player combo,
Speaker 2: you get an extra half that otherwise that's tangible. Okay,
Speaker 2: that sounds because you've got like seventeen trades here. It's
Speaker 2: gotten a little outright or six.
Speaker 3: I think DeAndre Hopkins is I think going to be
Speaker 3: moved in the next you know, ninety six hours. And
Speaker 3: the Bills make so much sense, so I don't know
Speaker 3: if they double up there. But it's so hard to Stephan.
Speaker 4: Diggs showing up to offseason workout.
Speaker 3: It's a little annoyed. Yeah, he's a sensitive little man.
Speaker 3: Not so little actually, all right, let's see, let's take
Speaker 3: one more break and then we will hit the rest
Speaker 3: of the first round a lot ed. I'm a draft
Speaker 3: you yea ye, welcome back. It is time now to
Speaker 3: finish out the twenty twenty three mock draft. Mark Sessler
Speaker 3: take us through the final eleven picks.
Speaker 4: All right, the Chargers go Jail and hyatt Field stretching
Speaker 4: wide out out of Tennessee. I think that feels like
Speaker 4: an obvious need for them. The Ravens. I love this
Speaker 4: more than I think it may happen. But Joey Porter Junior,
Speaker 4: the steel the son of the Steelers Great, goes to
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens, I think, and just stick it to
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh for years there the Vikings, Hendon Hooker, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 4: out the door after this season. I like the match.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of heat around that. If he falls
Speaker 4: that far, then I am in the same church and
Speaker 4: pew once again with Grave Digger, because I have the
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs trading up to twenty four with the
Speaker 4: Jaguars to get Zay Flowers, who they've done a lot
Speaker 4: of work on. And at twenty five the New York
Speaker 4: Giants Quentin Johnston falls right into their laps, and I
Speaker 4: really could see the New York Giants going wide receiver
Speaker 4: and just continuing to add around. Daniel, Jones and Johnston
Speaker 4: would be an interesting New York Giant.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I think with the chiefs, you each have flowers, same church,
Speaker 2: might be different pews because you have them a little later.
Speaker 2: The pew and pews a little well.
Speaker 3: They're both.
Speaker 2: It's both the trade.
Speaker 4: It's both the trade though, so we would both get
Speaker 4: that extra half point that we're discussed.
Speaker 2: True, you're more of a front pew type of guy
Speaker 2: when you were a religious man.
Speaker 4: Were where I'm sitting. I can see him in the church,
Speaker 4: crave digger from where I'm sitting, you know, to crane
Speaker 4: the neck to for.
Speaker 2: I like your I like your hand and hooker placement
Speaker 2: with the Vikings, I think that has a better change.
Speaker 2: I like a quarters and I'm rooting for Mark. By
Speaker 2: the way, I have a feeling Dan agrees we're going
Speaker 2: with the old stand by build guard take out these
Speaker 2: new young guns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although we want everyone to do well because I
Speaker 3: know justin you put a lot of work into this.
Speaker 2: It's just saying we knew Mark a lot longer.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm mark too for what it's worth.
Speaker 4: Sure, well that is yeah, that's rich, Sure.
Speaker 3: Y'are I think you guys are missing one thing that's
Speaker 3: going to shake up the draft board. I think Minnesota
Speaker 3: might be more aggressive in setting up their QB of
Speaker 3: the future. I could see them picking in the top ten,
Speaker 3: moving all the way up and grabbing one of those
Speaker 3: earlier qbs. I think there's a lot of breadcrumbs pointing
Speaker 3: to the Vikings reshuffling the deck as it were, and
Speaker 3: with Cousins not reworking his deal, this feels like the
Speaker 3: end of the road. Could Cousins be moved? Could they
Speaker 3: draft a QB and move Cousins?
Speaker 4: The only place that ever felt logical to me was
Speaker 4: wherever Kyle Shanahan was. And I don't think there's too
Speaker 4: much of a log jam a quarterback.
Speaker 3: And there's got to be teams out there that would
Speaker 3: look at a one year rental of Cousins as the
Speaker 3: commanders enticing back to Washington. Well, it's different ownership, I mean,
Speaker 3: not coaches, different everything too much. That was ugly different
Speaker 3: team name true? All right, how about your uh you're
Speaker 3: twenty one through twenty five? Grave digger?
Speaker 1: Alrighty at twenty so I Miami's got picked twenty one
Speaker 1: and they forfeited, so technically it's the twenty first pick,
Speaker 1: but it's picked twenty two. I have the Chargers taking
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith. I don't know, man like, he's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna fall this far, but if he does, the Chargers
Speaker 1: would pounce on him.
Speaker 3: So whatever.
Speaker 1: There's like, I have like twenty five claires set in.
Speaker 1: I have like twenty five players that I feel like
Speaker 1: are going to be top twenty picks, and obviously the
Speaker 1: math doesn't check out there, so some some people have
Speaker 1: to fall.
Speaker 3: You disagree with that rival GM.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one who said there's only fifteen and it's
Speaker 1: he has less than fifteen or whatever. Yeah, draft sucks
Speaker 1: twenty three every year.
Speaker 2: Weren't they saying that last year or two?
Speaker 3: Just waiting to get fired up about that one again?
Speaker 2: They say that every other year, maybe like two out
Speaker 2: of three.
Speaker 4: It's just stupid.
Speaker 1: At twenty three, I have the Ravens taking a wide
Speaker 1: receiver Jordan Addison. Kind of matches the profile that they
Speaker 1: looked for when they took Marcus Brown. Add another weapon
Speaker 1: get Lamar to come home.
Speaker 2: He's number one, by the way on my annual wide
Speaker 2: receiver rankings that I put out. It's very exciting. George
Speaker 2: Pickens was number two last year, Addison number one.
Speaker 3: Nice Who is left by the way, who was left
Speaker 3: in the Lamar Jackson sweepstakes from the because I guess
Speaker 3: there can be movement now the draft happens and then
Speaker 3: teams can reset. The Jets are obviously out now because
Speaker 3: the Rogers thing is done. If they were ever in,
Speaker 3: I don't think they were. Who is out there as
Speaker 3: a potential.
Speaker 4: Match again, in my world, not the Falcons, but in
Speaker 4: some worlds, the Falcons, based on who they picked, could be.
Speaker 3: I guess when the dust clear is on Saturday night,
Speaker 3: there might be a team that wants to make a
Speaker 3: play there. But we'll see. He's probably just going back
Speaker 3: to Baltimore, though probably I don't believe the Odell bet.
Speaker 3: I think Odell Beckham was lying through his teeth in
Speaker 3: that press conference when he said he was given no
Speaker 3: assurances that Lamar Jackson was going to be his quarterback.
Speaker 4: Why would you go there?
Speaker 3: He would? Well? The money, Odell, Well, the money was juicy,
Speaker 3: But like Odell's gonna go play with Tyler Huntley for
Speaker 3: four months?
Speaker 4: That feels like they will go go be good for me.
Speaker 2: He watched the Pro Bowl skills composition there, Tyler I
Speaker 2: was really doing well.
Speaker 3: He lit it up.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right. At twenty four, I have the
Speaker 1: Vikings taking cornerback Deontay Banks, another guy who could go earlier.
Speaker 1: This is like the best available to fix the defense
Speaker 1: kind of situation. Twenty five I have the Jaguars taking
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy another you know, stop his slide because he's
Speaker 1: a guy that could go earlier.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And at twenty six I have the Giants taking tight
Speaker 1: end Michael Meyer. This is the first place I have
Speaker 1: a tight end going off the board. I know they
Speaker 1: traded for Darren Waller, but Meyer is a guy who
Speaker 1: can really help in the run game and be another
Speaker 1: weapon outlet for Daniel Jones, who they don't like to
Speaker 1: let him throw the ball that far down the field
Speaker 1: in that offense. So another little underneath a.
Speaker 3: Waller I think is entering his age thirty one or
Speaker 3: thirty two year season, So it makes sense. It makes
Speaker 3: sense too. All right, let's close it up now mark
Speaker 3: your final picks for the first round.
Speaker 4: All right, Dallas Cowboys, they've lost Dalton Schultz, They've lost
Speaker 4: a bunch of tight ends in this draft, but they're
Speaker 4: gonna go with someone that fascinates me. Darnell Washington out
Speaker 4: of Georgia, six foot seven, two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 4: a human freak of nature. I can just see him
Speaker 4: in a Cowboys I think Jerry Jones get fascinated by.
Speaker 2: Saying that's Sessler's guy. That and van Ness.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm way into this guy. Buffalo Bills, they need
Speaker 4: a wide receiver. I love the idea of them trading up.
Speaker 4: I agree that that's a real possibility. Because of where
Speaker 4: they started a fall, I think they stayed where they were.
Speaker 4: They go Jordan Addison out of usc The Bengals. I
Speaker 4: struggle with this one because I really think they'd love
Speaker 4: to see a tight end fall to them where they are,
Speaker 4: but they're kind of we're out of them in this draft.
Speaker 4: On my side, they go cornerback Deontay Banks out of Maryland.
Speaker 4: The Saints go edge Will McDonald Iowa State. Add to
Speaker 4: that defense, the Eagles go to Kelijah Cansey and man,
Speaker 4: like you know, when you do these mocks, you get
Speaker 4: to the end, it's like crap, Klijah Cansy is not
Speaker 4: on the list, so I had to like redo the
Speaker 4: whole thing and try to figure out to put them.
Speaker 4: I wanted them with New Orleans essentially, and then I
Speaker 4: said Eagles. Because the Eagles can't They're not gonna go
Speaker 4: take another edge, So he goes. He goes to Philly.
Speaker 4: The Jaguars, with that trade from Kansas City sit at
Speaker 4: thirty one. They take dB Brian Branch out of Alabama,
Speaker 4: and I have one bonus pick, okay, because this is
Speaker 4: someone I really think has a chance to go in
Speaker 4: the first round. But at number thirty two or thirty three.
Speaker 4: In round two, the Eagles will trade up with the Steelers,
Speaker 4: who had that second round pick from the Bears, to
Speaker 4: get Jamar Gibbs, Alabama running back. They get their running
Speaker 4: back the Eagles.
Speaker 3: I was just about to ask about Gibbs to see
Speaker 3: you know, there's been talk will there be multiple running
Speaker 3: backs to go in the first round. I still like
Speaker 3: the idea of Cincinnati pouncing on one of these guys, yep,
Speaker 3: and Gibbs as a more natural fit I think than Robinson,
Speaker 3: and I think will be gone by the time Cincinnati picks.
Speaker 3: But coming off the board where you have them gone Philly.
Speaker 4: Yes, first pick of the second round.
Speaker 2: Maybe Justin off to make a first pick of the
Speaker 2: second round, as I had another tybrick. I did enjoy Dan.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed when Mark looked over
Speaker 2: to Justin and was like, it's tough when you're doing
Speaker 2: these and like you didn't have cancy in there, and
Speaker 2: he was like, you identify with that right in a
Speaker 2: way that we me and you. Dan couldn't understand absolutely.
Speaker 4: I mean we're brothers in arms. I mean we are competing.
Speaker 3: John Elway and Dan Marino like sitting on a dock
Speaker 3: with their fishing poles, just chopping it up.
Speaker 1: And I went through the same thing where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I still have four guys that should be first round picks.
Speaker 1: They're not in the first round.
Speaker 3: That is what it is.
Speaker 2: It's really backbreaking label all right, what do we got?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So for my last six picks, I have the Cowboys
Speaker 1: taking guard Osirens Torrents Osyris Torrance out of Florida. It's
Speaker 1: just like a Cowboys move to take the best lineman
Speaker 1: that's left on the board in the first round. They've
Speaker 1: done a good job. I know they need tight ends,
Speaker 1: but I don't have Dalton Kinkaid going in the first round.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm with you, Dan, It's like,
Speaker 1: what these titands got to do something before they deserve
Speaker 1: to be all the first round picks. Like, so, I
Speaker 1: don't have two or three Titans rebellion on that one.
Speaker 1: Huh my. I have the Seahawks in their trade back
Speaker 1: with the whoever it was the Bills. I guess has
Speaker 1: Keon White defensive end.
Speaker 3: I noticed when Mark has a trade he's not getting
Speaker 3: the thing, but you're getting it.
Speaker 1: I must have missed it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep my I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 1: Come next. I have the Bengals taking Brian Branch. They
Speaker 1: lost Jesse Bates in free agency. Branches like a versatile
Speaker 1: defensive back and play safety, can play Nickel. I think
Speaker 1: he slots right into their defense. I have the Saints
Speaker 1: taking Elijah Cantsey, and I'm in a situation where I'm
Speaker 1: like Will McDonald should also be a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I know Mark has Will McDonald going to the Saints here,
Speaker 1: but I think they beef up the interior of the
Speaker 1: line defensive line. I don't know who knows. At thirty one,
Speaker 1: I have the Eagles taking Gibbs.
Speaker 3: Project total confidence at all times. One on one, nobody.
Speaker 1: Both Eagles gibs, but I have them staying put and
Speaker 1: taking him at thirty one. And then finally with the
Speaker 1: Lions trade back from the with the Chiefs, they trade
Speaker 1: back from eighteen to thirty two and land cornerback Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Forbes a playmaker. Everyone's connecting Devon Witherspoon to the Lions
Speaker 1: at pick six, but if they get Jalen Carter there instead,
Speaker 1: they're likely going corner with their next pick.
Speaker 2: That's that's my guy at six one sixty five. Let's
Speaker 2: promote body diversity. Let's expand our mind of what type
Speaker 2: of bodies are going to play.
Speaker 3: In the NFL and the events a tie after round one,
Speaker 3: the tiebreaker would be the first pick of round two,
Speaker 3: and that would be for you justin.
Speaker 1: Uh, the Cardinals pick there? I know that's the Steelers,
Speaker 1: the Steelers from the Steelers. Oh yeah, the Bears, the steel.
Speaker 3: We'll get back to you on that. Think about it,
Speaker 3: Mark that you have something else to share.
Speaker 4: I have seven sports locks, and I did this sort
Speaker 4: of to tie up some loose ends, especially around the Titans.
Speaker 4: Because to your point, and I agree with you one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. I think if they go get the quarterback,
Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill is traded to the Falcons. So that's my
Speaker 4: sports lock number one. The second sports lock is that
Speaker 4: dere Henry locks.
Speaker 3: Let's lock it up.
Speaker 4: I mean, can we do a little something for it?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, he's too he's too busy, like spurling down,
Speaker 4: move the sticks, going to take come out of his ears.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry is traded to the Buffalo Bills. Then you're thinking, well,
Speaker 4: why would they go do that? Because the Titans turn
Speaker 4: around and take Zach Charbonnet.
Speaker 2: Okay, running back.
Speaker 4: They're kind of just getting young younger. They're kind of
Speaker 4: doing the same thing. It's getting younger. I like Phoenix
Speaker 4: Suns to the NBA Finals. It's my fourth story.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, that hasn't shown my great chemistry yet. But
Speaker 2: you can't question the talent absolutely.
Speaker 3: And you know, they're just in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: They're just now getting to build on that chemistry with
Speaker 3: Durant and Booker and look at Chris Paul, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm hoping he's gonna hit shots.
Speaker 4: Very dangerous.
Speaker 2: What an actor.
Speaker 4: They're just beginning to jell.
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts about their rotation. Beyond those, I think
Speaker 3: you nailed.
Speaker 4: It, and I think we know we're moving on to
Speaker 4: the next sports line, which is a fifth guy. Though
Speaker 4: you know, well, there's time to find that fifth guy.
Speaker 4: Uh sports lock number five. The Los Angeles Dodgers missed
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Oh wow, And I just you know, I
Speaker 4: listened to a lot of AM radio drifting around town.
Speaker 4: I don't like the feel and the energy that there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of, you know, they thought they could
Speaker 4: float into the season with a lesser roster. Not gonna
Speaker 4: happen this time.
Speaker 3: Sounds like April talk. But okay, yeah, well, no.
Speaker 4: One's gonna remember I said that. Uh sports Lock number six,
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is never seen again by the human eye.
Speaker 3: It's over. How do you spend that, Lamar Army?
Speaker 2: If that happens, that would be disappointing, but also unprecedented.
Speaker 2: He would be a legend. He would be legendary.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's getting a Netflix special if that happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes like full on Amelia Earhart all right
Speaker 4: in industry News.
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that the greatest personal accolade one can achieve?
Speaker 3: In the twenty first Century Netflix special after truly just fanishing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's probably more interesting than playing like
Speaker 4: another three seasons with the Ravens and not making you know,
Speaker 4: the AFC title game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: David Kresh really on the up and up right now?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: In industry news are my final sports lock major lawsuits
Speaker 4: take down Jimmy Dean sausage.
Speaker 3: Wow, when we were making meat products.
Speaker 4: In the next calendar year that happens?
Speaker 3: Shoot?
Speaker 2: That was it does say sports locks? How does that
Speaker 2: relate to? I guess Jimmy Dean's like a sports sponsor.
Speaker 4: I saw a Jimmy Dean sausage commercial on NFL Network
Speaker 4: while preparing this list, so there was a clear and
Speaker 4: obvious you get.
Speaker 3: That, like one step forward, two steps back, vibe there
Speaker 3: Greg with Mark after you ate the Big cheeseburger a
Speaker 3: few weeks back, like go back and eat little wish
Speaker 3: casting against the Dean industry.
Speaker 2: It's so specific. If you nail this one, I think
Speaker 2: it tops whatever that Baker for Mayfield nonsense was whatever?
Speaker 4: What was that wasn't nonsense?
Speaker 3: That was? That wasn't it? You nailed it, prophet the
Speaker 3: back end of that prediction. It was such an absolute disaster,
Speaker 3: but you got the front end was so profoundly perfect.
Speaker 3: Even I would not take that.
Speaker 4: And that was done in front of a true live audience.
Speaker 3: Sure was What is this not a true audience that's
Speaker 3: here for the audience here? You really, guys, you thought
Speaker 3: this would be easily twenty five minutes shorter, and we
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 4: Patience.
Speaker 3: Anything else, grav What are your seven sports locks? You
Speaker 3: need them all right now or we'll we'll take your
Speaker 3: first pick of the second there.
Speaker 1: Will McDonald, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Dalton Kincaid boom.
Speaker 1: No, that doesn't make sense. The Steelers wouldn't take him.
Speaker 3: Say that trade out to yeah, somebody.
Speaker 1: Somebody trades up for Kinkaids. They're like, wow, he's still
Speaker 1: on the board.
Speaker 3: It's giants trade into it. They want another title.
Speaker 4: Specific team though.
Speaker 1: Just not somebody somebody like the Bengals.
Speaker 3: It almost doesn't matter if Kinkaid comes off the board
Speaker 3: and you have Baker, that's a tiebreaker, okay, deal on
Speaker 3: the way markets happy is if his tie his first pick,
Speaker 3: he matches the team as well.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin did almost like say directly that they're trying
Speaker 1: to trade the thirty third, thirty second overall pick.
Speaker 2: That's like the number that's one of the number one
Speaker 2: tropes in sports media. All that Friday, they're like, it's
Speaker 2: great to be at the top of the second round.
Speaker 2: You can really not you know, like shut up control
Speaker 2: the board like shutouts.
Speaker 4: To the time.
Speaker 2: There's no trade shut up.
Speaker 4: They have to talk for like seven straight hours, which
Speaker 4: we're gonna learn.
Speaker 3: Throughout a team though. Just in case Mark nails it. Yeah, way,
Speaker 3: why are you you're so.
Speaker 1: Ha already had them trade down in the first round
Speaker 1: of the extra pick like.
Speaker 3: We well, that's not what his decision was.
Speaker 1: Old McDonald's it no matter what.
Speaker 3: All right, great stuff, great stuff, Mark, justin best of luck,
Speaker 3: May the best man win. And remember you could track
Speaker 3: this in real time with us on Thursday the live
Speaker 3: stream on YouTube. You can find the links on any
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Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: That's it. The next time you hear from us, either
Speaker 3: that live stream or right after the live stream, Yes,
Speaker 3: our Round one recap podcast as usual. Come into your
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Speaker 2: Here, right here, confirmed, locking it up. I love it
Speaker 2: all right, let's week
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