1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Bold reference and occasionally random the Sunday Hang with Playing 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Buck podcast. It starts now, Mike Tyson is going to 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: be fighting, Yes, Jake Paul in the ring. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Isn't Mike Tyson in his sixties now, Mike, Mike Tyson, 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: I believe, is fifty eight. And by the way, Michael 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: Jordan is sixty one, so Mike Tyson is fifty eight. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: I will watch that fight against Jake Paul because I think, 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: I don't know what you would say to this. I 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: think Mike Tyson is other than Michael Jordan, probably the 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: most captivating and thrilling athlete of my you know, sports fandom. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: And in two decades, two generations, three or four decades 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: of being a sports fan, it's impossible to look away 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: from Mike Tyson. And I'll still watch him box at 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: fifty eight, even though he was obviously at his peak athletically. 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: I don't know at twenty six or twenty eight. 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I just wonder there must be a huge payday attached 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: to this because to be at that age and to 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: be taking hits. Look, I mean, Mike Tyson could still 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: kick my ass. I get it right like this, you 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: know there's there's something there are people who are in 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: there who are almost sixty, and then there's the former 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: heavyweight champ of the world. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: There's almost sixty, but the. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Guy he's fighting as a young guy who's in good shape. Like, why, 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: why is this a good idea? I don't understand what 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: I think. Jake Nowell is just a marketing expert and genius. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: And the brand value of Mike Tyson is so much 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: higher than the brand value of almost any other boxer 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: even now. And there's videos out there. By the way, 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Tyson is fifty seven right now, he'll be fifty eight 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: for the fight. There's videos out there of Mike Tyson 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: where you'll watch it. I don't know if you've seen 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: these videos. They went viral a little bit a while ago. 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: He's been training pretty aggressively for a while. And I mean, 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of twenty eight year olds. 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: I think Jake Paul's around twenty eight. Mike Tyson would 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: knock out ninety nine point nine. 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Percent of them probably. He's still looks like a bad man. 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: And I will watch this. It's gonna be on Netflix 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: July twentieth. Maybe maybe Joe Biden stay up for that 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: one too. 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, since we're talking sports as well, something else 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: that has come to my attention. See look at me 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: dropping all the sports today. You know this happens once 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: you start doing some prize picks, you're focused in on 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: the sports. I saw this game, this basketball game where 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: was the two high school teams New Jersey and in 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey and two high school teams and it's what 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: was it? The semi finals of the state Championshipinal four. 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Of the state championship in New Jersey a Camden high 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: school area team and then another like a Native American 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: named school like Manti Lapin or not Mano Lappin. But 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: it's not it's not that one, but it's like it 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: kind of sounds somewhat similar. We'll dig into those details. 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: All I can tell you is and we should probably 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: put this up the video up at Clayanduck dot. 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Com because team got robbed. 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Yes, team got robbed clearly on video one with a 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: last second shot. There is no question. The evidence is 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: as as clear as day. And now it turns into 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: what should be done about this? 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: What would you do? I'll ask you when we come back. 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: I'll have so for people who don't know that was 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: the last play of the game, the team made a 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: layup to win the game clock expires. Initially, the basket 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: was counted by the referee with the best view. They 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: then gathered to have a discussion. They waved off the 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: final basket. Zero doubt that the final basket was good. 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: It's the final game of the year for one of 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: these teams. It's tournament time. They're eliminated. One hundred percent. 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: The shot was good. The team that lost should have 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: been the winner. What is the appropriate outcome there? When 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: you have video people take in the crowd. It's not 74 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: like they have incidant replay. This isn't the NFL. It's 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: not the NBA or even major college basket ball or 76 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: football where they have all the instant replay. They don't 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: have instant replay typically in high school. What's the right result? 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: New Jersey Athletic Association saying we can't do anything. They 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: now have the school that was rendered the loser has 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: now hired a lawyer. The state championship game is on Saturday. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: What should happen? What would you do? Because it appears 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: that the New Jersey Athletic Association is not going to 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: change the outcome. They now have retained an attorney. The 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: title game is Saturday. You were a high school soccer coach. 85 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: That's not really perfect analogy because the clock doesn't work 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: in the same way in soccer where you could have, 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: let's say, a clear goal that happens on the very 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: final play of the game. If you can have the 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: ball out. 90 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Lost the goal line on video and have it waved 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: off when it actually clearly crossed. 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: That's happened in games before. So but the challenge is 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: you would still have more time to play. Right. This 94 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: is a unique scenario to me because the game literally 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: in and it's on video and you can see that 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: the wrong team and this is not a judgment call 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: where you should have made a foul call or something. 98 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: You can freeze frame the video. 99 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Yes, with the ball out of his hands, with time 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: on the clock, and it goes in. 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: All right, So you're the coach, what would you do 102 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: of the camp? If you're the coach of the team 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: whose team got screwed, you clearly appeal you try to 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: do whatever you can to get your team able to advance. 105 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: That's not difficult. You're the coach of this Camden, New 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: Jersey team, Buck, what would you do if you knew 107 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: your team hadn't actually won, but you were scheduled to 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: play in the state championship game at noon on Saturday. 109 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know this is easier to say from 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the outside, but I would I would say I would 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: call the opposing coach or you know, the coach that 112 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: we had beaten quote unquote and try to arrange it 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: so that I would concede. I would say that, you know, 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: we lost the game. I don't think I don't think 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: you feel good about playing in a championship game when 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you know you didn't earn the right to be there. 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: And because there's no question they didn't earn the right 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: to be there. It's not like, oh, they should have 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: called a foul. Ball was in the air, time on 120 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: the clock, ball goes in, that's and it was called 121 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: good initially. So yeah, there's no question about the outcome 122 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: if it were like a bad call or no. I mean, 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: you know that's the that's one thing. But this is 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: obvious evidence that they lost. So yeah, I would say 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: that you should try to arrange to have the team 126 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: that actually beats you go forward. And because it's high 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: school basketball, right, you know, if there were millions and. 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: Millions of dollars riding on this whatever. 129 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a whole other thing if 130 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about a college or a professional level. But 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: it's high school. I think doing the right thing is 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: the most important thing. So coach Sexton would say, we 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: are not going to play in the finals. 134 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: The team that beat us earn the right to be there. 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: I agree with you. By the way, I'm going to 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: retweet this, so all of you can go vote. Ten 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: thousand people voted so far. I asked that exact question. 138 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Fifty six percent of you said that you would forfeit 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: and withdraw, basically let the other team go wow. Forty 140 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: four percent would just want to take the double vand 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: advance and play. Was forty four of the Bovarians out there? 142 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: This is high school? Well, I think a lot of people. 143 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: The argument would be refs get things wrong all the time. 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: It's a part of the game. And now to your 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: point on hes On College and Pro, they would have replay. 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: This would never happen there. Yeah, so that this would 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: have been rectified in any league that has any kind 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: of audience at all. 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Raphael and Nadal is one of my favorite he's one 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: of the greatest tennis players I think certainly the in 151 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: the top five, maybe the top three greatest tennis players 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: of all time. 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: And he is known for. 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Calling balls that they called in his favor, going up 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: to the umpire and saying no, that was actually out, 156 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: so he'll so he doesn't want points that he didn't earn. 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I've seen him do it before in matches, and I 158 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: think that's what sportsmanship is. And I think at the 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: high school level, again, to your point, if it were 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: college or professional, this would never happen. You know, this 161 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: is something that I think. I think the lesson is 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: more important that you get it right here. But I 163 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: understand that people say, you know, the game is the game, 164 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and it is what it is. But if you found 165 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: out that a ref was paid off, like you wouldn't 166 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: allow somebody to then go forward with the team. 167 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: The game isn't just the game. Also, that way, more 168 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 2: people would know this coach and this team and consider 169 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: them to be great exemplars of sportsmanship for making that choice. 170 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: Then wouldever know who normally wins the New Jersey State 171 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: high school championship? Right? I mean the message to the 172 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: kids of doing the right thing at lower level sports. 173 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: I think is really why most of us play sports, 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: because most of us are not going to have college 175 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: or professional careers at an elite level. That's why I 176 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: certainly have my kids playing. 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Why is it that this other referee if you watch 178 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: the video, and we'll put the video up at clayanbuck 179 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: dot com so you can all easily find it so 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: you can go there. 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: We'll have it up shortly if it's not already up, Why. 182 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Is it that this other referee waves off? 183 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: I mean he was, he was further away. I know. 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: There's something funky there that that's not that's it was 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: not his call. And if you're relying on line of 186 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: sight and non instant replay, the guy with the closer 187 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: line of sight has got to be the one, you know, 188 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: who's who's closer to the play. It's got to be 189 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: the one making that call to override that call. I 190 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he's the head ref or something. I'm 191 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: sure he's the head ref who gets the opportunity to 192 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: make that call. But yes, they initially called it good. 193 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: So then the the refs, I think there were three 194 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: of them, they all gets a real that's a real 195 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: face punch. When you know you think you've won. It's 196 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: a big moment for those kids. I remember when in 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: high school this stuff really matters to you. You think 198 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: you've won at the buzzer and then you're waved off 199 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: after you've been waved on by the ref. I mean, 200 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: that's a tough one to. 201 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: Not that it's always positive, but the team that gets 202 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: scored on knows it's good. Like they all immediately slump. 203 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: If you're on the court, you're aware of to a 204 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: large extent, whether the shot goes up before the buzzer 205 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: is going off. Right, by the way, Jeff in North Carolina, 206 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: you got to take on this what you got. 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to say, actually two things as 208 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: a player and a coach, knowing that you didn't win, 209 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: I mean, you you got to live with that. And 210 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: you know for sure, hey, these guys beat us. You 211 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: know you got to live with that. But how cool 212 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: would it be for the players and the coach of 213 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: Camden and the administration to get together and say, look, 214 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: we're not gonna take this. We're gonna get you guys 215 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: beat us far and square. You deserve to play in 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: the championship and and give that win to them that 217 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: would be awesome to see in sports with as much 218 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: stuff as we have going on, How cool would that 219 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: be to see that? 220 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: I meant the move. Totally agree, totally agree, it'd be 221 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: amazing and and and and by the way, we'll take 222 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: some more of your calls on the state of the Union, 223 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: Biden than more when we come back to the top 224 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: of the next hour. But it also sends the right message. 225 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: And again I just circle back to nobody knows. Look, 226 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: you care if you're in that district? Do you care 227 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: if you're in that universe? Most people have no idea 228 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: who wins the state championship. Everyone in America would know 229 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: this coach and that team for doing the right thing. 230 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: Regardless of who winds up winning the state championship. It 231 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: is an opportunity to do the right thing and get 232 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: credit for it. Sunday drap with Clay and Buck. Phil 233 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: wrote into the Clay and Buck vip just to follow 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: up to Clay the Love Doctor's advice to me last 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: week about my obsessive NCAA tournament. Lady friend he called 236 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: in talking about all the different teams that she rooted for, 237 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: and I suggedly said I took your advice and overnighted 238 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: a plush a LINEI monogrammed robe for cozy and endurance 239 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: viewing of NCAA games. It arrived Wednesday, in time for 240 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: Illinois's Thursday game against and I can't even remember who 241 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: they played against on Thursday, but yukont No. That was 242 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: over the weekend. They won their Sweet sixteen game. They 243 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: beat Iowa State. Sorry Iowa State fans. She was thrilled. 244 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Like an insider stock tip Clay's advice, will play will 245 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: pay great dividends. I do think I'm an incredible love doctor. 246 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: I think I can solve all relationship issues pretty one 247 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: in our audience. 248 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Were you, I mean, I would have to think so, 249 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we do a show together every day, 250 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: so you know how to how to you know, help 251 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: help your your bros out. Were you an excellent wingman 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: in your day? 253 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: I think so, I humbly, humbly, I've been married for 254 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: twenty years. I believe that I would have been one 255 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: of the greatest online daters in American history. And I 256 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: think this is I'll explain. I feel like, you know, 257 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: if Michael Jordan had been born before basketball existed, his 258 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: talents and his skills that would never have been fully realized, 259 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: I think because most men can't. Most men are generally speaking. 260 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: You and I are exceptions. Most men are awful communicators. 261 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: There are tons of women out I mean, you know this. 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: You dated for a long time. I'm sure this was 263 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: a huge advantage for you. You knew how to spell 264 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: words correctly, you could text message. A lot of men 265 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: are borderline still cavemen, like they can't even make a 266 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: joke on a text message very well. They don't really 267 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: understand how to communicate. They may not be great at reading. 268 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm just throwing a lot of men 269 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: under the bus here, But there's a lot of women 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: out there listening right now, especially in a dating texting era. 271 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: I think I would have been amazing in communication digitally 272 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: without and I think I'm okay face to face, but 273 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: I think I would have been really funny and witty 274 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: and great at it. And I feel like that was 275 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: a skill set that I never got to deploy because 276 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: I was married before like any of the real like 277 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: online dating universe took off. One of my buddies got 278 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: married right before Tender and Bumble and all these different 279 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: things came out, and I swear to god. I was 280 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: out with him and one of our buddies was going 281 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: through to meet girls, and he turned to me and 282 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: he was like, if I had known these apps were coming, 283 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: I would have never gotten married. I'd have never gotten married. 284 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: He's like, because you get into your forties or your 285 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: upper thirties, and without online dating, it gets hard to 286 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: meet girls. Right, Like, when you're in your twenties, it's 287 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: relatively easy to go out to a bar, but the 288 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: older you get, the more difficult it is to have 289 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: a natural, organic, person to person meeting. And so anyway, 290 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: I feel like I would have been good at that, 291 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: but I'm not. But I was good. I am a 292 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: good wing man, I think. 293 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, in my day, I actually preferred the era before 294 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: online dating as a single man because one of my 295 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: superpowers was I would go up and talk to anyone. 296 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: You know. 297 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: That was for a lot of guys, which like ninety 298 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: percent of guys won't do. It's a superpower and it 299 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: still is. It's some in some way if you're if 300 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: you're a guy and you want to meet a lady 301 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: and you're single, just go up and talk to her. 302 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Don't be weird, don't don't put a line out there. 303 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Don't you know? 304 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Hey, you know, are you an angel because you're like 305 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: you fell out of heaven? 306 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Or are you from Tennessee because you're the only ten 307 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: I see? Yeah, good one in Tennessee, by the way, 308 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: because a lot of people are from Tennessee. But whenever 309 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: I was I was very good for my friends back 310 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: in the day. 311 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: Whether I had a girlfriend or was single, they could 312 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: just sort of say I was like a heat seeking missile. 313 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: They could be like, yo, I want to go talk 314 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: to that one that lady uh, And I would go over, 315 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: chat her up and bring her over. I actually did 316 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: this for a very dear friend of mine who's now 317 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: married with three children. We're at a night club and 318 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I was like, and I had had a couple I 319 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: might have had a couple of drinks, and I was like, 320 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: pick any girl you want in this place. I'll find 321 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: a way to bring her over to this table so 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: you can throw some game at her as the as 323 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: we say. 324 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: And and he did. And they end up getting married 325 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: and now they have three kids. Three kids. They should 326 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: have to name one of the kids after you. One 327 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: of my good friends got married back in the day. 328 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 329 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: In the bar if it were a crowded bar. You 330 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: know how you sometimes have the accidental bump in which 331 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to talk. Oh yeah, one of 332 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: my friends got married because I gave him a hip 333 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: check and he bumped into a girl at the bar 334 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: and he was like, you know, man, it's crowded in here. 335 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: That was his that was his open was me bumping 336 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: him into a woman who is now his wife, and 337 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: I believe they have three kids. And one thing I'll 338 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: say I've also learned too, is that if you if 339 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: you just want to speak to somebody in a social setting, 340 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, or you know, just even in a way 341 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: that's that you know, shows some basic tact Like if 342 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: we're going to talk somebody at the grocery store, uh, 343 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: you know you're gonna speak. 344 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I will say this. I have no the gym because 345 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, the gym is very hard 346 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: to talk to a lady if you're single and you're 347 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: a guy in the gym, I thought, I find that 348 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: to be one. 349 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Of the hardest places. 350 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Some of you guys are like, oh, look at my 351 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: six pack, Like that's where I meet all the babes. 352 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: Like you can you don't have to send me those emails. 353 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: I know, it's fine. I agree the gym is kind 354 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: of a tough spot because also girls wore out in 355 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: no clothes now, so it's kind of like you notice this, 356 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: like it's the gem atigher in my laities it's lingerie basically, yes, 357 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean women work out in lingerie here. Yeah, no, 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: it's really And then they are like have you noticed this? 359 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Like they'll be like, guys are giving like, oh, I 360 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: don't know why all these guys are looking at me. 361 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: It's like you're working out in a push up bra 362 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: and panties, Like, I like, how do you expect guys 363 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: not to notice it? 364 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: So but I one thing I'll say, though, is if 365 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: you are, for any of the single guys listening whatever, 366 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you're in your twenties or your sixties, 367 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: if you try to speak to somebody in a nice 368 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: way and they're they. 369 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: Rebuff you or they're rude in response. 370 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: They may not be very receptive, they may have a boyfriend, 371 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: or they may not want to give you their phone umber. 372 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: That's fine, but people get worried to think about being 373 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: shot down anyone who is rude to you. If you 374 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: approach them in a nice way, you're actually saving yourself 375 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: a lot of irritation because that's not somebody that in 376 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: the long run you'd want to spend any time with anyway. 377 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: So it's actually immediate self selection. Like if you, in 378 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: a polite way, just want to talk, don't hit on, 379 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: but talk to a woman you want to have a 380 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: conversation with. 381 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: If she's rude to you, you don't want to. You know, 382 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have wanted. 383 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: This to go better where you got her phone number. 384 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I tell people that I think that they find that 385 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: very helpful. 386 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that's bad advice at all either. 387 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we can solve now based on that 388 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: email and also lead to more kids. And this is 389 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: my big thing here. Everybody wants to talk about the 390 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 2: global warming and climate change and how we're all the 391 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: population of the world is collapsing, and no one will 392 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 2: talk about it. I mean on a serious level. You 393 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: look at countries like Italy, Japan, great histories in those countries, 394 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: their entire culture is being wiped out because people don't 395 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: want to have kids, and the same thing is true 396 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: for large segments of the American population. So I want 397 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: more people getting together, and I want there to be 398 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: more babies, So anything we can do to help that happen. 399 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: And that's what I tell my kids all the time too. 400 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: Now get married, it's important, and have as many kids 401 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: as you can. They roll their eyes. I've got three boys. 402 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: They roll their eyes at me. But I'm going to 403 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: keep hammering it. Get married and have as many kids 404 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: as you can. Raise them up well, because that is 405 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: how you save the planet. Population is going to collapse 406 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: if you look at the data right now over the 407 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: next seventy five or eighty years. That's a negative story. 408 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: I hate to be a doubt. Hey, the world's going 409 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: to end because not enough people are going to have babies. 410 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: But that's where we're headed. Bo in Nashville, You've got 411 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: a wide range of opinions. Here what you got for us? 412 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: Sure, I do agree with you about the whole being 413 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: able to speak well and being able to type well. 414 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: My wife and I actually met on Tinder. We've got 415 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: two daughters now, and it's funny because you really don't 416 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 4: communicate the same way through text message that you do 417 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: at a bar, right, so you kind of have to 418 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: adjust that. But it also I think to your point earlier. 419 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: It does help to stay connected. Because my wife and 420 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: I work full time and we text each other, snapchat 421 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: each other throughout the day. We probably only get twenty 422 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: minutes of FaceTime on an average day. I know you 423 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: guys both work a lot. You probably have the same issue. 424 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 2: How old are your kids. 425 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: I think it's great to be able to do that. 426 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: Our oldest is the youngest will be two next week. 427 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're in the weeds with the kids as 428 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: parents as well, So good luck with that.