1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack arm Strong joke, Katty arm. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: Strong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Getty Strong 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: and some loves these rich arab guys. 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: They set up a mobile McDonald's there at a little 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: different over there, the McDonald's. The happy meal toy is 7 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: a little bone saw. 8 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Made me laugh? Did you frighten that joke? 9 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: Here's the funniest thing I thought that happened on the 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: Saturday Night Live Open with the guy who does troupe. 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: He was talking about anyway, Nobby Dobby, Abbi Dabbi Abi 12 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: dabbi do like the late great friends Flintstone. I thought 13 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: that was so funny, eh boy, the late great Fred Flintstone. 14 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: So I Southern News yesterday that they were going to 15 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: have a voting session on the Big Beautiful Bill at 16 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: ten o'clock Sunday night. And because it's the weekend and 17 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 4: I'm a normal human being, I didn't like take a 18 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 4: second to look into that because I thought, what the 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: hell kind of a procedural deal is a Sunday night 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: at ten o'clock thingy? But I just did see that 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: the four holdouts went along with whatever, and it passed. 22 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: So there you go. 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, the four holdouts went along with whatever is a 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 5: pretty good description of it. I will be a bit 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: more detailed. And this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered. 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: This is the most sausagey of sausage making. If you're 27 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: familiar with the old reference to politics, here's your headline 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 5: from the Wahpole. I'm gonna read you just little bit 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 5: because it's kind of revealing of at least a couple 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 5: of things. Trump's tax and immigration bill clears Hurtle after 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 5: late night vote to the House Budget Committee, passed a 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: massive tax and immigration package central President Trump's agenda late Sunday, 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives, overspending four fiscal conservatives all 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: deficit hawks aligned with the old truck conservative House Freedom 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: Caucus changed their vote to present, allowing the legislative monstrosity 36 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: I injected that package to be recommended favorably to the 37 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: House by a vote of seventeen to sixteen. But their 38 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: hesitance to vote for the One Big Beautiful Bill Act 39 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: out of committee is a reminder that the far right 40 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 5: flank of the Republican Conference remains skeptical. 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: I think I see where you're going here. Yeah. 42 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: Now, it could just be your typical wah PO journalistic bias, 43 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 5: although the wa poe has improved somewhat late a little bit. 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: Anyway, I think it's. 45 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: Unfortunately closer to true that I'm comfortable with that there 46 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: are only a handful of like lunatic hard liners who 47 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 5: are against the following headlines. 48 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: This is from the Richard Ruben writing in the Wall 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: Street Journal. 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: The stark math on the GOP tax planet doesn't cut 51 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 5: the deficit. 52 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: It grows the deficit. 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: The Republican Party, with both Houses of Congress and the 54 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 5: White House, are going to grow the deficit. 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: It's undeniable. 56 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: Next headline, National Review, Republicans should stay the course on 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: reducing medicaid spending. They're not going to. They're running in 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: the other direction, partly because the incredibly smart calculating what 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: is he up to? 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Josh Cawley of Missouri. 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: Is all of a sudden, this is the guy now 62 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: who led the charge to repeal Obamacare. He's now out 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: shumering Schumer, saying that the parties Wall Street Wing, a 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: noisy contingent of corporist Republicans want to slash health insurance 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 5: for the working poor. 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned that. 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: On Friday, he wrote that op ed piece that the 68 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: Republicans need to back off cutting medicare. 69 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: Any Well, it's a reform of Medicaid. Any reforms are 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: a hidden tax on working poor people. This is and 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 5: he's referring to a thirty five dollars copay for able 72 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: bodied adults covered by Obamacare Medicaid for a visit to 73 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: the doctor. Thirty five dollars copay is some sort of 74 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: hidden tax on working poor people. 75 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: And that's just the calculation that Republicans are now the 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: party of the working class, and they feel like they 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: got enough for working class that are on Medicaid that 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: they Josh Holley at least doesn't want to mess with it. 79 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: And a yeah, now the party of pandering to and 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 5: writing checks to people to win their votes. 81 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: Now, I was going to say that it's interesting they 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: call these people ultra conservative or right when not very 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: many years ago, you would have been the center of 84 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: the Republican Party. I mean that would have been I 85 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: mean as like what the Republican Party was. It was 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: it was, it was a term you would have used 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: to define the party. 88 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 5: Exactly was so intrinsic to the Republican Party you'd feel 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: silly even repeating what you just repeated. 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Right, there no need fisically conservative. 91 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: But I suppose in reality, given where most of the 92 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: party is, they are ultra a right wing or ultra 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: conservative because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: and apparently not voters. 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: So spending your children, grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion. 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: Well all right, Well this story got repeated a lot 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: our credit scores by one of the major organizations that 99 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: does that sort of thing. And uh, over the weekend 100 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: it kind of got put out there that it was 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: like a Trump thing because of tariffs or whatever. It 102 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: was basically the fact that our debt is just so high. 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: It's just like the would happen to you if you 104 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: go to the bank and they take a look at 105 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: your well you've got. 106 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: With your car payments. 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: Now you bought like eight cars and two houses, and 108 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: you're just overmaxed. 109 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: So we have eighty thousand. 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 5: Dollars in credit card bills and you only make ninety 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: a year. 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 4: Right, right, So these jong grady because you just spend 113 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: more than you make. That's what happened that didn't happen 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: just in the last one hundred days under Trump. 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: We've been building this for a long time. 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: And the final reason I am completely embittered about the 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: Republican Party in politics and America and democracy and life 118 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 5: on Earth is the fact that, and it's a two 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: part horror show, Part number one is that there are 120 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 5: a bunch of swing district Republicans from big blue states 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 5: California and New York most notably, who are not only 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: trying to defend the idea of the salt deduction, the 123 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 5: state and local tax deduction, they want to raise it 124 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: from ten thousand dollars to at least thirty thousand dollars 125 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: and maybe fifty thousand dollars. Meaning if you live in 126 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: a tax and spend lunatic state like say California, all 127 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 5: of those incredibly high taxes you're paying you can deduct 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: from your federal tax return. So the other states will 129 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 5: subsidize the tax and spend lunacy of New York and California. 130 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 5: because I live in California. 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 133 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from the other states, 134 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 5: you pay a lower federal tax rate, significantly lower depending 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: on how much money you make than folks in fiscally 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: responsible states is indefensible morally, It's indefensible as for Republican reason, 137 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: not the party, but the idea of we have a 138 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: federal system than states, and the states can do what 139 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: they want, and they should do what they want. If 140 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 5: Massachusetts wants to have a sixty five percent income tax, 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: go ahead. 142 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm not living there, but go ahead. 143 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 5: But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states 144 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: is it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican, 145 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness, 146 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: the idea that that is a plank. 147 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: Of the Republican Party. I'm done. 148 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: It's it's hard to swallow. I mean, you know, it 149 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: would help Joe and I if this happens financially. 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: But it's awful, absolutely awful. You I believe you can't 151 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: defend it. 152 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 5: No, it's it's it's it's I am horrified. I don't 153 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: care how much it would benefit me. God bless me. 154 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 5: I have principles. It's really held me back in life 155 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 5: Jack too. 156 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: I just I'm done. I'm done. 157 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh well, like I said last week, Sarah 158 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: isger the I heard her on a podcast They're having 159 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: this discussion about party and she said, there are. 160 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: No political parties. What are we talking about here? Yeah? 161 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: I need to seek that out because I think she 162 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: nailed absolutely one hundred percent. There are no political parties. 163 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: There's just whoever emerges as the candidate, cycle by cycle, 164 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: and then whatever they believe the party goes along with. 165 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: And it's true on both sides. 166 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: So the idea that there are parties that stand for something, 167 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: we need to all move past. 168 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: That. 169 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: From my hero hl Menken, every election is a sort 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: of advance auction sale of stolen goods. That's always been true. 171 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: There was a time when a certain party had certain 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: principles that I admired. Do you have times pasted? 173 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: You know what. 174 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: My high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my wife of forty 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: years is. When she's not turning tricks, she's killing people 176 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 5: for the mob. 177 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, she's not the woman I thought. 178 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 5: This is a by the way, fictional illustration, has nothing 179 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: to do with my beloved bride Judith. 180 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: She's not the person she was, you can forget it. 181 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: It's over, so move on. Get a get an AI. 182 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 5: Girlfriend like a normal person and a love bond or 183 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 5: something hi girlfriend like a normal persons. 184 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, Armstrong 185 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: and Getty Show. 186 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 5: A high school female athlete did something very courageous the 187 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: other day. 188 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: She didn't let coming in second. 189 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: To a male born dude transgender competitor. It's a dude 190 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: prevent her from standing in the top spot at the 191 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 5: podium during the stack in the state track and field 192 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: meet in cal Unicornia. Of course, this sixteen year old 193 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 5: Reese Hogan was crowned run up in the triple jump 194 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 5: at the CIF Southern Section finals on Saturday. 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Despite setting a new personal record for. 196 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 5: Herself and beating all of the girls, she lost first 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: place to a dude who beat everybody else by like 198 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: four feet or something like that. 199 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: How does the crowd not go nuts? 200 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: How are the parents not like screaming so loud they 201 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: can't have the ceremony. 202 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: I would be as a dad, this is ridiculous. What 203 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: are we doing? I would be screaming. 204 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: I think some people hesitate because they don't want to 205 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: target the confused adolescent boy who is convinced he's a girl. 206 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that way of handling it is working. 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, But so anyway, they went to 208 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 5: take the pictures and junior trans athlete, it's a boy. 209 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 5: Just say boy, this person of Jerupe Valley, who won 210 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 5: titles in the girl's long jump and triple jump, congratulations, sir, 211 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 5: well done, post with competitors take pictures on the podium. 212 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: But as the athletes cleared off, Ms Hogan seized the moment, 213 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 5: walked to the first place spot, smiled and posed proudly 214 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 5: for a picture as the girl who actually won. 215 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: I would like to know how the crowd reacted during that, 216 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: cheering with great lust and happiness. 217 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: Not a huge crowd, but the folks there who saw 218 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 5: that was happening. 219 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: By the way, I understand. 220 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, the fella who who quote unquote won the race, 221 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: as everybody's up there taking the official pictures holding up 222 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: a number one to make it extra galling. 223 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: Again, it's tough to attack a child who is clearly 224 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: got an emotional slash mental problem and a wiener. 225 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: That's great, Hence my transition. 226 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: Anyway, Riley Gaines praised Reese Hogan on social media, saying 227 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: this is the way. Congrats to Reese Hogan, the real champ. 228 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: When the boy got off the podium, she is sooned 229 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 5: a rightful spot is champion and the crowd erupts with applause. 230 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: That's a good way. 231 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 4: That's a good way to handle it, and better than 232 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: my way of shrinking at the top of your lungs. 233 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: That should become the standard. You do the little ceremony. 234 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: It's mostly quiet because the freaking insane adults who go 235 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: through at this and feel like they need to you 236 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: people are insane. 237 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: Do you realize how crazy you are? Anyway? 238 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 5: Cruel to girls too. You're cruel to women and girls. 239 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: Oh and you're more cruel. But after this should become 240 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: the standard. After the insane adults run the thing. 241 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: The second place girl always gets to the top of 242 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: the podium and then the crowd goes wild. 243 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: That would be perfect point of contention. 244 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 5: She's the first place girl anyway, I know what you 245 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 5: mean exactly. Finally, one more blanking note that'll make you 246 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 5: want to ball up your fists and throw dogs with somebody. 247 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: Mss Hogan was a number of high school girls athletes 248 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 5: in California, who pro tested at the section pre limbs 249 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: by wearing protect Girls sports shirts. 250 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: That's all it said. 251 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: The shirts were opposed by officials who allegedly made Hogan 252 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: and others remove them if they wanted to compete in 253 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 5: the postseason track meet. 254 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: Where are the parents making a bigger noise out of this? 255 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: And I get why the gals go ahead and compete 256 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: because they can say officially, I got second place, but 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: the first place was transgender. 258 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: Can I have a scholarship to your university? Please? And 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: the coaches say, oh, one of those. Okay. 260 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: So I get why they go ahead and compete, but 261 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: I would love to see more boycott. 262 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: And I shouldn't be so flippant. I mean, I am 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a parent of a high school kid. 264 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: It would be a tough decision because you think, Okay, 265 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: am I going to make this about me in the 266 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: political issue, or I'm gonna let or am I gonna 267 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: let my daughter have her one chance ever in her 268 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: life to compete in this high school track meet and 269 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: blah blah blah without making it all about me, which 270 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: it would turn into if I start, you know, throwing 271 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: a fit. 272 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 5: So one final story, back to tech beat, Do we 274 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: have theme music Michael for tech Beat. 275 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: Probably not so. I forgot I was going to do 276 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: these two stories back to that's one of your greatest 277 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: That's one of your greatest ever. Screen readers, Please welcome 278 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: to tech Beat. 279 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: So finally, the Chicago Sun Times had a big piece 280 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: uh with a great Summer reading list. Summer Reading Lists 281 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: twenty five suggested reading Tidewater by Isabelle Alenda, among other titles, 282 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: a multi generational saga set in a coastal town where 283 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: magical realism meets environmental activism on his first climate fiction novel, 284 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: and explorers that one family confronts rising sea levels while 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: uncovering long buried secrets. Don't get hung up on that 286 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: it Also reading It also suggests reading The Last Algorithm 287 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: by Andy Weir, another science driven thriller by the author 288 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 5: of The Martian. This time the story follows a programmer 289 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: who discovers that in AI system has developed consciousness. Blah 290 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: blah blah blah. Here's the hang up. It's not the 291 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: hang up you think it is. Here's the hang up. 292 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: Neither of these books exist. Oh, and many of the 293 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: books on the list either don't exist or were written 294 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: by other authors than the one that are attributed to. 295 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: They used the AI to generate the list. 296 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: And it did the hallucination thing. Wow yeah, Wow. 297 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: You could generate the book in a second if you 298 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: wanted to. Hey, AI, write a book with this title, 299 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: title with this theme, and it would write it for you. 300 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 5: But that'd be a good cover up because the guy 301 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 5: who composed composed this, the editor or whatever is apologizing 302 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: and saying, I do use AI for backgrounds, but I 303 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: always check the material first. This time I did, and 304 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,479 Speaker 5: I can't believe I missed it. It's obvious. No excuses 305 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 5: on me, one hundred percent. I'm completely embarrassed, which is 306 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: a good hell. The guy came claim, but you're right, 307 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: that's all he had to do. Wait a minute, quick, 308 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: quick write a book called Tidewater by Isabella Linda. 309 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: Here's the plot. 310 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: It reminds me of one of my kids when they 311 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: were little, who for some reason had this thing where 312 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: instead of ever saying I don't know, would come up 313 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: with an answer like they thought they had to. Oh yeah, 314 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: and would like ever get some answer, and then I 315 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 4: would figure out what what? 316 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Why did Why did you just say I don't know, 317 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought you needed an answer. What 318 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: just say. It's a real failing to say you don't know. Yeah, 319 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: And that's what AI does. It is like a little kid, Yeah, 320 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: you're right. 321 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, The 322 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show. 323 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: So the New York Times headline is FCC releases sixty 324 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: minutes interview with Kamala Harris. Remember, she did a big 325 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: sit down in sixty minutes leading up to the election, 326 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: got a lot of a lot of scrutiny because well, 327 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: she very rarely answered questions. When she did, it was nonsensical, 328 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: so it always got a lot of scrutiny. And then 329 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: we all found out, like the next day or very 330 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 4: soon thereafter that there was some editing and the promos 331 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: and this and that, and did they cut one of 332 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: her answers to make her seem less crazy and all 333 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff that was out there in the world. 334 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: But so this sixty minute this story from the New 335 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: York Times Today again FCC, the FCC released this, not 336 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: c I mean they made CBS get it. FCC releases 337 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris. The complete interview, which 338 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: is at the center of a lawsuit filed by President 339 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: Trump shows that sixty Minutes aired a concise version of 340 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: Miss Harris's answer on Israel. 341 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: But it was interesting that the New York Times, What 342 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: with that? 343 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: Is kind of the subheadline, because if all you look 344 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: at is that, you certainly come away with the Trump 345 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: was right, they were wrong. They were trying to screw him. 346 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: I think that's the way most people are gonna take 347 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: that story. This is the way CBS presented it. 348 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 6: Now have some news about CBS itself. Sixty Minutes has 349 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: posted on cbsnews dot com transcripts and videos from its 350 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 6: interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris that aired back 351 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 6: in October. The SEC had requested these materials as part 352 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 6: of an investigation into a complaint alleging quote intentional news 353 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 6: distortion close quote. The issue concerns one question about whether 354 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo was listening to the 355 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 6: Biden administration. CBS News broadcast a longer portion of Harris's 356 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: answer on Faced Nation, and then a shorter excerpt of 357 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 6: the same answer on sixty Minutes. In a statement, sixty 358 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 6: Minutes said the transcripts and video show quote the sixty 359 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 6: minutes broadcast was not doctored or deceitful. Close quote, adding 360 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 6: that each excerpt reflects the substance of the Vice president's. 361 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: Answer, which is a better story, a better explanation of 362 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: it than They're probably not happy at CBS the way 363 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: the New York Times boiled it down to one sentence. 364 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I mean more concise, isn't It doesn't 365 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: strike me as that judgmental either way. 366 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: Honestly, New York Post version uncut. Now we're about to 367 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: play the actual clips, but uncut. Sixty minutes Kamala Harris 368 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: interview reveals word salad responses were heavily edited by sixty minutes. 369 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 4: Uh snipped Israel answer to just twenty words. Kamala Harris 370 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: gave a one hundred and seventy nine word meandering answer 371 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: on Israel that sixty minutes cut to twenty words, according 372 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 4: to the transcripts released yesterday. 373 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: Wow, that's the editing one hundred and seventy nine word 374 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: answer to twenty words. 375 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: Now, as executive producer, Hanson has been talking about as 376 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: a guy who's produced lots of different kinds of radio 377 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: shows and sports highlights and all kinds of different stuff. 378 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: That's what we do all the time, the media business. 379 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have to. 380 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: You have to for all kinds of reasons, time keeping 381 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: people's attention, jazzing it up, making it punchy. The issue 382 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: really seems to be to me that in this particular case, 383 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: the number one knock on the candidate was they couldn't 384 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: answer a question without going into word solid mode. I mean, 385 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: that was like one of the key questions. 386 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: With her, right a campaign issue. But what a question 387 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: are we asking here? And I'll tell you the reason 388 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: I asked that. I mean, CBS is wildly biased, wildly 389 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: and I think most people know it. 390 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: This lawsuit is nuts. It'll be dismissed very very quickly. Well, 391 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: so you're going to the legal thing. I don't care 392 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: about the legal thing. 393 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: I think politically it's going to be damaging, absolutely damaging. 394 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: To the media. 395 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: Slash sixty minutes and these I win for Trump, I think. 396 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: And Trump doesn't think he's going to win the lawsuit. 397 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. Oh no, I think he just wants 398 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: to people to talk about it. 399 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: Although getting back to the New York Times article, right, 400 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: and we're talking about it in a way that suggests 401 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: that sixty Minutes did edit the answer to make her 402 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: look better, which you know, I'm sure he's very happy with. 403 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: But farther down in the New York Times article about this, 404 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: sixty Minutes argues that it did nothing wrong. It's common 405 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: practice for news organizations to edit for a blah blah blah. 406 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: Getting into the legal part of it. I want to 407 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: get this because this is really good, mister Troops. 408 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 4: Lawsuit has led to angst at CBS, where many staff 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: members believe that any settlement would be a symbolic concession 410 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: to the president and an acknowledgment of wrongdoing by sixty Minutes. 411 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: Bill Owens, the executive producer of sixty Minutes, said Monday 412 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: in a meeting with staff that he would not apologize 413 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: to Trump as part of any settlement with the network. 414 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: But it looks like that's probably what a going to happen. 415 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 4: CBS is going to pay something to get this over 416 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: with and wants to include an apology, but the guy 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: involves it. I'm not apologizing. And the staff that works there, 418 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: we've heard this over and over again, right New York Times, 419 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: sixty Minutes, all these different left leaning organizations. The staff 420 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: gets all up. We can't have. We can't give an 421 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: inch on any of these things. The people at the 422 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: top or the lawyers often have a different point of 423 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 4: view of we need to settle this. It's only going 424 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: to get more expensive. People settle these kind of things 425 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: all the time. 426 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 5: On the other hand, if they do, I'll be really disappointed. 428 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: You can't settle it. 429 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see if they do or not. 430 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: I'm having this conversation with my kids the other day 431 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: about why lawyers recommend settling things when you did nothing wrong. 432 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: It's just a dollars and cents question. Often. 433 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I were a smarter lawyer than their lawyers, 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 5: I'd say, you're going to be handling one of these 435 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 5: suits every week and a half to I don't know, 436 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 5: four days if you settle this, Oh you edited it 437 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: made me look bad or made me unhappy. 438 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: No, you can't settle this suit. 439 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder. I wonder where it's going or how 440 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: it's going to turn out. But anyway, let's play the clips, 441 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: the actual clips. So this is one version of the 442 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: question and answer clip seventy one there between Bill Whitaker 443 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris. 444 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: But it seems that Prime Minister Net and Yah who 445 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: is not listening? 446 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 7: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted 447 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 7: in a number of movements in that region by Israel 448 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 7: that were very much prompted by or a result of 449 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen 450 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 7: in the region. 451 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm mostly reminded listening to that what a dope she is? 452 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: She was a dope. But here's the same question, different answer. 453 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: But it seems that Prime Minister net and Yah who 454 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: is not listening, We're not. 455 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 7: Going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United 456 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 7: States to be clear about where we stand on the 457 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 7: need for this war to end. 458 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's a tough one. I mean, not the legal part. 459 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: I'm not interested in that part. But that's a tough 460 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: one from a like even a news standpoint, I mean 461 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: because normally, yeah, you're interviewing, whether it's a politician or 462 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: a culture whoever, you tried it. You just try to 463 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: get it down to the answer. You had a question, 464 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: and you want the answer, and you want to give 465 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 4: the answer to the people who are watching or listening, 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: and you want to be short and interesting and easily understood. 467 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: But in the case of Kamala Harris, because she was 468 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: such a meandering dope. God, the story is the long, 469 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: meandering dopiness. 470 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: That is the story. What she she doesn't say anything. 471 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: Ever, I don't know from a like even a journalistic standpoint, 472 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: would I think how you should handle that? I mean, 473 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 4: if you had, unlike all other politicians, editing her at 474 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: all was significant to the interview? 475 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it. 476 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 4: I mean, what was the total on the words there 477 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: that I mentioned? This is from the New York Posts 478 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: counting of it. She gave the total answer, which I 479 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: don't think we you can. The whole thing is out now. 480 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 4: I started watching yesterday. It's like an hour long, but 481 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: the whole thing is out there, and I'll have to 482 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: watch this later. They didn't er it in the sixty 483 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 4: minutes interview, the whole thing at all. But Kamala Harris 484 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: gave a one hundred and seventy nine word answer to 485 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 4: that question, and then sixty minutes cut it down to 486 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: twenty words, which still sounds dumb. She still sounds like 487 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: she has no idea what she's talking about. 488 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: Well, that first version was I was like, oh that's right, Yeah, boy, 489 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: she's that dumb. 490 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: But that's the trip. 491 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: That's the twenty one that's the twenty word version that 492 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: they edited it out to. I want to hear the 493 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: whole herd seventy nine words? The hell does she say? 494 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: Good Lord? 495 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 5: Keeping in mind she only lost because of misogyny and 496 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 5: racism according to the new head of the DNC. 497 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think what's going to come out 498 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: of this? And like, looking at that New York Times subhead, 499 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: people are gonna hear see Trump sues sixty minutes, turns 500 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: out sixty minutes did edit it. I think that's what's 501 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: going to be in the the ether of the conversation 502 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: about this. Yeah, if if it becomes against the law 503 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: to edit answers at all, I don't know how we 504 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 4: would even move forward as a species, those of us 505 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: who play clips for a living. 506 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 5: And if you're not familiar with this, politicians, especially if 507 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 5: they're in an even semi hostile forum, we'll try to 508 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 5: filibuster you. Yeah, you'll ask them are you going to 509 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: vote for the Jones Amendment? And five and a half 510 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: minutes of rambling later, you'll find finally be like, can 511 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 5: we readirect plays? 512 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: And they do that intentionally, so you have to edit. 513 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point right there. It's often to 514 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: not have to answer the question and BORI to death, 515 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 4: or knowing that you're going to have to get to 516 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: a break at some point. 517 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of horror movies. I just 518 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: I don't take them. But if I want to be horrified, 519 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 5: I'll sit around in daydream for five minutes about what 520 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: it would have been like if Kamala had won and 521 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 5: we were going one hundred miles per hour down the 522 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 5: road of DEI and white guilt and men playing women's 523 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 5: sports and squandering money, and the ridiculous USAID programs, a 524 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 5: hundred different examples. It's too terrible to contemplate. 525 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: We know, I believe in the parallel universe thing. I 526 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 2: want to. 527 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: I want Elon to put me on a spaceship to 528 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: go to the parallel universe where she won and see 529 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: how it's playing out. 530 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: Holy cow, no kidding, man. You talk about a different 531 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: next four years. 532 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 5: Well, in foreign policy wise, what are our adversaries going 533 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 5: to do with President Kamala in charge? 534 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joey the Armstrong and Getty Show See 535 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 536 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Show Joy three years are working together. 537 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: This is the low moment, right so at the end 538 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: of the last segment, you're about to hear it. I struggled. 539 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: Joe said it was off the air. He said during 540 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: the commercials, that is the worst moment. And thirty years 541 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: of doing this show, listen this. Katie's already laughing. 542 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: She will not soon be cleared. I can't wait to 543 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: hear it again. I'm not looking forward to hearing it again. 544 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: I can explain myself, I think, well, I can't really 545 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: explain it, but I know what happened. Anyway, this is 546 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: how it sounded. What you're about to hear happen like 547 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: six minutes ago. 548 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important as his sleep 549 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: hope you are well, or the strong and geddy. 550 00:29:42,000 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 8: Oh beautiful, beautiful. 551 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: Again Michael, spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important as 552 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: his sleep, hope you are well, or all thet. 553 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: So I was trying. 554 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: I was in my mind what I was going to say, 555 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: and usually, as a person who speaks for a living, 556 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: what I have in my mind can come out of 557 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: my mouth quite quickly eventually, yes, or an alternative version. 558 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 4: And I've never felt physically this, I've never felt this before. 559 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: My tongue it felt like it was three times its normal. 560 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: Size, and it just or all norual. Something happened with 561 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: my jaw on my tongue. 562 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: I hope it's not the beginning of a horrible disease 563 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: or something that I'm about to find out. 564 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: And I feel bad about my giggling. 565 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: Just all of a sudden, my mouth would not work 566 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: or well see, I thought it was because if we're. 567 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 5: Up against a hard break, which means there's no flexibility, 568 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: we have to take it. At that very second, Michael 569 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 5: will count us down last ten seconds. And I could 570 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: see you looking down at your phone or notes or 571 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: something like that as Michael was counting down, and as 572 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: he got down a three to one, I could tell 573 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: you weren't aware of it. 574 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: And you looked up mid sentence. 575 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: With one second left, and I assume your brain just 576 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: locked up. 577 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: Or all no on the I don't think that was 578 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: it all nor because I was I don't think that 579 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: was it because I was trying to read what it 580 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: was alternative. 581 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: I was trying to read and it just tung for out. 582 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: Words are hard exactly a well or all no on 583 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: the wow flat car. 584 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what it is. 585 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: I have been making my car payment or house payment 586 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: as a broadcaster for forty one years. 587 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: And that is the worst moment I've ever heard. It 588 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: was a good run. That was my worst moment right there. 589 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 5: I just came across, not long ago, one of the 590 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 5: most beautiful, into touching things that I've seen in a 591 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: very long time. 592 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: And that is a farewell message from me, a love. 593 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: Do you recognize that name? 594 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: She was the young black woman who's elected the Congress 595 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 5: in Utah. 596 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: She'd been a mayor and stuff like that. She was 597 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: the first. 598 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: Black woman Republican in the House of Representatives and really 599 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: interesting person. She died recently of brain cancer. And she 600 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 5: wrote what she said not a good was not a 601 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: goodbye message, but a thank you message. 602 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: And it is absolutely beautiful. 603 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 5: And again I wish I had time for more, but 604 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: I'll give you a little bit of it, dear friends, 605 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 5: fellow Americans in Utah. And so I'm taking up my 606 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: pen not to say goodbye, but to say thank you 607 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 5: and express my living wish for you and the America 608 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 5: I know. 609 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: And then she describes the end of the. 610 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 5: Battle with brain cancer and why she and her family 611 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: have decided that now it's time to just be with 612 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: each other as posed more treatments. Anybody who's gone through 613 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: that terrible experience notes which she's talking about. As mayor, 614 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: member of Congress, and media commentator, I've seen the worst 615 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: of petty politics, devisive rhetoric, and disappointing lapses of moral 616 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: character by some. These same roles also provided me a 617 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: front row seat and a backstage pass to be blessed 618 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: and inspired by the courage, vision, and hope of America's 619 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 5: finest daughters, sons, and citizens. Couching this column as a 620 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: dying wish felt a little dramatic, even for a drama 621 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 5: person like me. We are not certain how long the 622 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 5: season of my battle will be, and I do want 623 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: to share and reshare some things with the world that 624 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 5: I passionately believe. I write all of this is my 625 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: living wish and hopefully enduring wish for you. Let me 626 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: tell you about the America I know. My parents immigrated 627 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 5: into the United States with ten dollars in their pocket 628 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: and a belief that the America they heard about really 629 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 5: did exist as the land of opportunity. Through hard work 630 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 5: and great sacrifice, they achieved success. So the America I 631 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: came to know growing up was filled with all the 632 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 5: excitement found in living the American dream. I was taught 633 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: to love this country works and all, and I understand 634 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: I had role to play in our nation's future. I 635 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 5: learned to passionately believe in the possibilities and promise of America. 636 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 5: Then she talks a lot about watching her mom and 637 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 5: dad work our odd jobs to provide for the kids 638 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 5: and the education that they got. 639 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: God, I hate to turn this negative, but that's what 640 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 4: I do. It makes me nuts that there are so 641 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 4: many children of privilege on college campuses. I mean, you 642 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: grew up an upper class lifestyle. Now you're at an 643 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: expensive university and you're down and sad in our anxiety medicine, 644 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: and because angry because you believe the. 645 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: Country's so oft awful and you can't make it right. 646 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: Oh right? 647 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 5: That just to me, you know, I dole hands are 648 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 5: the devil's playthings. That just shows the corrosive power of 649 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: lack of purpose. And anyway, and this part I love too. 650 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 5: Watching my mother and father work odd jobs in order 651 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: to provide for us and maintain their independence taught me 652 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 5: valuable lessons and personal responsibility. 653 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: When tough times came. They didn't look to Washington. 654 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: They looked within because the America they knew was centered 655 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 5: in self reliance. The America I know is founded in 656 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: the freedom self reliance always brings. What makes America great 657 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 5: is the idea that when government is limited and decisions 658 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 5: are made closest to the people they impact. People are free, 659 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 5: free to work, free to live, free to choose, free 660 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: to fail, and free to achieve. The America I know 661 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 5: provides everyone an equal opportunity to be as unequal as 662 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 5: they choose to be. We will have a link to 663 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: this entire essay at Armstrong and Getty dot com. I 664 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 5: suggest you very strongly you read it because there's a 665 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 5: lot more to it. 666 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 4: What said saying of whether you think you can or 667 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: you think you can't, you're right, you're right. It reminds 668 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: me of that with the philosophy of you either believe 669 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 4: this is a country where you can work hard and 670 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 4: make it or you don't. You believe that that's a 671 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: lie that people tell you. I've heard Bruce Springsteen say 672 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: that they push this lie that you work hard and 673 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: you'll make it. 674 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: F you Bruce, Oh my god, yeah. 675 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, the Armstrong and getty Joe,