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Speaker 1: edition of All Access. We missed you during the draft week,
Speaker 1: but we're going to do a special draft recap here
Speaker 1: and thanks to our producers. Jordan tread Up dam really
Speaker 1: big time. How you feeling it a day. I'm feeling great, Jeff.
Speaker 1: You know, sensors. The draft has ended. It's to spend
Speaker 1: the most talk about draft history of Chicago Bears sports
Speaker 1: and the outs the outskirt, the outlying topics that have
Speaker 1: been going around the league and everything. Super impressed with
Speaker 1: the impressions that the choice of Justin Fields is left
Speaker 1: around the league impressed what they consider his development possibilities
Speaker 1: to ultimately turn into. And hey, we can't sit here
Speaker 1: and talk about the draft week without talking about the
Speaker 1: punch in the face that we all got right before
Speaker 1: the draft started in conversations of Aaron Rodgers possibly being
Speaker 1: disgruntled enough to move on. You've been eloquent in your
Speaker 1: debut here todaytime. I love your feelings the history of
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears football, But anytime a quarterback a certainly one
Speaker 1: of this stature and this kind of ceiling, Wow, because
Speaker 1: this guy really is the limit and you're right, A
Speaker 1: buzz in town is palpable, friends, family acquaintances, people reaching
Speaker 1: out on social media to both of us. While I'm
Speaker 1: not you because you're not on social media, but just
Speaker 1: the way you have interacted with people in the public,
Speaker 1: that's the first topic is Justin Fields. Listen, I actually
Speaker 1: talk to people, so you know, between common between conversations
Speaker 1: this morning with the general manager of another team and
Speaker 1: getting their reflection about what they think. You know, Justin
Speaker 1: Fields is the new quarterback. He is not the quarterback
Speaker 1: that came out of my generation, the straight drop back passer.
Speaker 1: Now we've been introduced to an athlete that plays quarterback,
Speaker 1: and from what we've seen in the sense, this whole
Speaker 1: athleticism at that position has started justin fields fits right
Speaker 1: into that that new generation of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And to what are you referring to but the punch
Speaker 1: in the face right before the draft, please, well, well
Speaker 1: that's when that Aaron Rodgers information came out. And so
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about what player can the Bears take
Speaker 1: to help this team make the biggest jump the soonest yeah,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about quarterback, but we assume that all of
Speaker 1: them would be gone by twenty and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they bring up within the division. If there
Speaker 1: was one player you could take out of the division
Speaker 1: to give everybody the best chance to climb up top,
Speaker 1: it would be Aaron Rodgers. And then during the course
Speaker 1: of the week, I messaged you who is the second
Speaker 1: best player in the NFC North? And now you have
Speaker 1: to think about it because it's not an obvious that
Speaker 1: jumps right on your plate. Again, you know, we're all
Speaker 1: you know because the story hasn't left the headlines about
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But I think the second headline that's most
Speaker 1: talked about this week is the selection of Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: That's a great question too. We're gonna approach that with
Speaker 1: our friend Jim Miller just a moment. We're also going
Speaker 1: to hear from some college head coaches that impacted this
Speaker 1: draft from a Bears perspective, Ohio State head coach Ryan Day,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma state head coach Mike Gunde, and Virginia Tech head
Speaker 1: coach Justin Fuente. And that leads me to the former
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears quarterback, a Michigan stater. The series SXM NFL
Speaker 1: radio host on Moving the Chains with Pat Kerwin, our
Speaker 1: special guest each and every week, Big Jim Miller, Oh
Speaker 1: you've got thoughts. I know you do. You must be
Speaker 1: grinning ear to ear to hear Big Tom's excitement. Jim, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I am. I'm excited for Justin Fields. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Bears would have a chance to
Speaker 1: get him, but here he falls through ten and Ryan
Speaker 1: Pace works to deal with the giant, said Levin, with
Speaker 1: of all people, Dave Getlman, that never is really traded down.
Speaker 1: So it worked out brilliantly for the Chicago Bears. Already
Speaker 1: have talked to Justin Fields. He's this guy's a tough
Speaker 1: competitor and like Tom said, it's a different way that
Speaker 1: the game has played. And this is a very athletic,
Speaker 1: very determined, I think, very tough minded individual that I
Speaker 1: think landed up in the right spot with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: And then the Aaron Rodgers drama continues to unfold, And
Speaker 1: what is your perspective on it. I know it's probably
Speaker 1: been topic number one on your show all week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has been obviously, and you know, some people as
Speaker 1: sensitive feelings, you know, just because they draft a quarterback
Speaker 1: and maybe he doesn't feel appreciated when you look at
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and I tend to agree with with bred Farmer.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going away any anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is a very principled guy. He's
Speaker 1: going to stick to his guns and I don't think
Speaker 1: he reports for a training camp and so the Packers
Speaker 1: are going to get what they what they want. We'll
Speaker 1: see what Jordan Love can do and then maybe at
Speaker 1: that point, if he plays well Jordan Love, I mean
Speaker 1: plays well, maybe then the Packers would consider trading Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: If he plays poorly. I think Aaron Rodgers will get
Speaker 1: his fat new deal that he wanted all along in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Did you have a take on Terry Bradshaw's
Speaker 1: opinion about things? No, I mean, here's the thing is
Speaker 1: I mean organizations. You know, it's it's the typical players, play, coaches, coach,
Speaker 1: owner's own you know. So if Aaron thinks said he's
Speaker 1: got to be abreast of every single decision making process
Speaker 1: that the Packers are doing, and I think he's sorely mistaken,
Speaker 1: that really doesn't happen in any organization. They may give
Speaker 1: an inkling and ask you your input about, Hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think is so and so player in this
Speaker 1: and that? But honestly, how many players is Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: really studying prior to the Packers draft? Every single year?
Speaker 1: I don't think any player does that for any team.
Speaker 1: And then you reflect on and afterwards and you just
Speaker 1: you welcome him in with open arms. So, whether he
Speaker 1: felt he was caught astray or really out of touch
Speaker 1: with that pick of Jordan Love, at some point every
Speaker 1: organization is going to have to draft a quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think we all know that. You know, Jim and Jeff,
Speaker 1: I think that narrative of the quarterback being more involved
Speaker 1: in personnel decision started earlier this offseason with both Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson and Deshaun Watson. So I just think it's something
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is piggybacked on because, yeah, he may
Speaker 1: be talking about Jordan Law or the lack of receivers.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a topic that began with those
Speaker 1: two guys in their turmoil and their decisions they're making.
Speaker 1: I mean, it goes back to Tom Brady. Everybody thinks
Speaker 1: they're going to talk their way out of town. But
Speaker 1: Tom Brady did it the right way. He did it
Speaker 1: where he wouldn't be placed with the franchise tag. He
Speaker 1: went to the owner's house and Robert Craft. They said
Speaker 1: their goodbyes and that was it, you know. But Tom
Speaker 1: had been building up to that moment to making sure
Speaker 1: they couldn't franchise tag him and all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: then he's able to move on and everybody went there
Speaker 1: their separate ways. That's really not the case for Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has three years left under contract, plus they
Speaker 1: can franchise tag him for two more years, so yeah,
Speaker 1: they can give him some more money to make them happy.
Speaker 1: But I think he wanted really to end his career
Speaker 1: in Green Bay by getting a long term extension again,
Speaker 1: and it just really didn't happen, and that Green Bay
Speaker 1: seems to be digging a line in the sand where
Speaker 1: they're not going to offer him any extension on his contract.
Speaker 1: I am of the opinion, though, that this whole idea
Speaker 1: about competition rankling somebody, it just drives me nuts. I
Speaker 1: mean I do. I mean, listen, I'm gonna be fifty
Speaker 1: nine years old. So maybe people think that all man thinking,
Speaker 1: but I just don't buy it. Everybody in life has
Speaker 1: to deal with competitive aspects of their position and what's
Speaker 1: down the line, what's coming down the pipeline. It's just
Speaker 1: part of life. And if you're gonna be sensitive about competition,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. I mean, it's you're
Speaker 1: not coughing up for me. Yeah. Here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love was no competition from the get go. He's
Speaker 1: a greatly raw player. I interviewed Jordan Love how about
Speaker 1: this time? I asked him, hey, man, can you give
Speaker 1: me an example of a hard count? He didn't even
Speaker 1: know what a hard count was, and I go, here,
Speaker 1: you just got drafted by Green Bay with the all
Speaker 1: time best hardcount quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. I said, you're
Speaker 1: gonna find out what a hard count is in how
Speaker 1: to do it. So he's really no competition for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And realistically, if Aaron continues to play, he may never
Speaker 1: even step on the field. So it was kind of
Speaker 1: a wasted pick when you look at when Green Bay
Speaker 1: selected Jordan Lowe. Yeah, you know one thing about the
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, Jim, when you talk about the hard count,
Speaker 1: it's a non rhythmic tone to the voice of the
Speaker 1: quarterback and trying to make the defensive lineman susceptible to
Speaker 1: jumping or even being off balance. And nowadays they really
Speaker 1: don't use that. You know, you've got Aaron Rodgers who's
Speaker 1: the master of it. You have guys in the past
Speaker 1: from Steve de Berg to Boomer Assias and that we're
Speaker 1: masters at it. But now in the modern day offense,
Speaker 1: it's almost because you got two plays called and you
Speaker 1: have so much going through your brain. You really don't
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks that are at that level where they know
Speaker 1: everything so perfectly that they can use that voice flection
Speaker 1: as a weapon. That's equally as destructive because if you
Speaker 1: win on that two to three times a game, you're
Speaker 1: talking about touchdowns or big completions. In the case of
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's time there. Jim Miller, Jeff jon Acc
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Speaker 1: Jeff Jony Aac, Tom Thayer, Jim Miller, with you on
Speaker 1: our show this week, a post draft show. Couldn't be
Speaker 1: with you the week before, but glad we're with you now.
Speaker 1: As we're breaking down the Bears selections, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the departure of left tackle Tommy Charles Leno Jr. Durable
Speaker 1: as they come, reliable as they come, ninety five straight
Speaker 1: starts when you add the playoff games. And this was
Speaker 1: something in Brad Biggs article this past week in the
Speaker 1: Chicago Tribune. Played next to twelve starting left guards since
Speaker 1: Week four of twenty fifteen, and wow, and he still
Speaker 1: weathered that storm. So any inefficiency that popped up during
Speaker 1: the course of that time, and Bears use five left
Speaker 1: guards last season, you know, may have led to some
Speaker 1: not as stellar play in twenty nineteen. I thought he
Speaker 1: played well last season in twenty twenty, but there's not
Speaker 1: a guy in the roster tom that has a start
Speaker 1: at left tackle now in this league. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't think about the amount of left guards that
Speaker 1: he played it next to, and then think about the
Speaker 1: amount of offensive line coaches he's had through his bearer's journey,
Speaker 1: so you don't grow that consistency of the same technique.
Speaker 1: Talk to you for a number of years. Charles Leno
Speaker 1: did more in developing himself because he first was tried
Speaker 1: at a right tackle and didn't necessarily work out uniquely enough,
Speaker 1: he went over to the left side and had the
Speaker 1: qualities and had the traits to sustain at that position.
Speaker 1: So I admire what Charles has been able to do
Speaker 1: throughout his career. However, when you get into salaries and
Speaker 1: you get into youth and you think of how this
Speaker 1: offensive line can change if you can plug in a
Speaker 1: new body there, and one they obviously went and drafted,
Speaker 1: one they feel has the skills to play that position,
Speaker 1: and from you know, all the guys that I played
Speaker 1: with throughout the course of my career. Watching Jay Hilgenberg
Speaker 1: get traded to Cleveland, I got cut. You know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen to everybody throughout the course their career. So
Speaker 1: you just have to have thick skin at that point
Speaker 1: in your career and you figure out that you still
Speaker 1: have the desire to go to another organization and give
Speaker 1: everything that you've built up into that point, or have
Speaker 1: you satisfied yourself played enough football and are ready to
Speaker 1: move on. I think Charles is going to have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go and probably walk into somebody's team and
Speaker 1: immediately compete as the starting left tackle on their team. Jim,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the move? And I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it was necessary to clear salary cap space because
Speaker 1: it's extremely tight for the Bears here in twenty twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear for not only Charles Leno,
Speaker 1: but Bobby Massey on the other side as well. The
Speaker 1: Bears moved on from both of them. They had big
Speaker 1: contracts and they hate they contributed, they played good football,
Speaker 1: and we're good Chicago Bears. Along the way, I'm with Tom,
Speaker 1: I think Charles will have an opportunity to play somewhere.
Speaker 1: It sounds like Bobby Massey is already getting some looks
Speaker 1: like by the Denver Broncos where they can step in,
Speaker 1: fill in and play right away. But you know, again,
Speaker 1: it's about getting younger. You do have the salary cap
Speaker 1: issue that you have to deal with, and we'll see
Speaker 1: what Tevin Jenkins is able to do him. Plus, they
Speaker 1: drafted Larry Boreham, who who are good young offensive lineman
Speaker 1: that look to have a clean canvas, that have some
Speaker 1: versatility and have played more than one position on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. You would think Tevin Jenkins gonna have that
Speaker 1: opportunity at left tackle. Maybe give that opportunity to Larry
Speaker 1: Boreham on the right side. If it doesn't work there,
Speaker 1: he could kick in the guard, is what Boreham could do.
Speaker 1: So I'm high on Jenkins. I think he's a solid player,
Speaker 1: is very versatile. But he's got all the things you're
Speaker 1: looking for in terms of the size at six five,
Speaker 1: the weight, his lateral ability, and how he moves. And
Speaker 1: it looks to be that he's going to have to
Speaker 1: learn quick and be able to step in and play
Speaker 1: and play well for the Chicago Bears. All right, let's
Speaker 1: listen in to Mike Gunny, his head coach at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: earlier this week. Tevin is very interesting. I think he's
Speaker 1: just ratching the surface on his ability. He came from Topeka, Kansas,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, and when he arrived, I don't
Speaker 1: think he had any idea what college football was like.
Speaker 1: And just in the last year he's finally developed some
Speaker 1: toughness and some grit that that will certainly benefit him
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. I would not be surprised in
Speaker 1: two years if people are looking back and saying that
Speaker 1: he is potentially the best offensive line take in this draft.
Speaker 1: And I say that because he has phenomenal athleticism, strength,
Speaker 1: he's highly intelligent, and he's just started to really get
Speaker 1: into football over the last eighteen months. All right, Tom there,
Speaker 1: what is your reaction to Mike Gundee and what is
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what the capability is immediately of Tevin.
Speaker 1: First of all, I liked the enthusiasm and which Mike
Speaker 1: Gundee coaches, where I think it's spills out to the
Speaker 1: rest of the football players, and it's a very contagious
Speaker 1: attitude that he has and as he says, he's built
Speaker 1: that kind of a reputation within the last eighteen months.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what's expected from an offensive lineman or
Speaker 1: any college player that gets a little bit feel of
Speaker 1: playing early in their career, and then the expectations are
Speaker 1: raised each and every spring into the fall season. And again,
Speaker 1: I know a head coach that with a drafted player
Speaker 1: is always going to talk positively about their former student.
Speaker 1: But now after they went drafted Teven I went and
Speaker 1: watched a lot of film on him, both on the
Speaker 1: right side and left side, because I want to see
Speaker 1: if there's a reality that this guy can transfer his
Speaker 1: right side balance to the left side, and I really
Speaker 1: think he can. And so when you're talking about this
Speaker 1: offense and when Justin fields plays, they don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to be a left side dominant team. They can be
Speaker 1: a right side dominant team if they feel that Rats
Speaker 1: were the office of line has strength, and Tevin is
Speaker 1: kind of working into his own, so I do believe
Speaker 1: he can play there. I think he's demonstrated the intelligence,
Speaker 1: the aggressiveness, the attitude and the character that you need
Speaker 1: to come in here and try to be that immedia
Speaker 1: day one starter. But you know, he's going to have
Speaker 1: to rely on guys like Cody Whitehair and the experiences
Speaker 1: that James Daniels has been able to live through. Because
Speaker 1: is Cody right now the oldest offensive lineman on this
Speaker 1: unit with six years of experience, Because you're talking about
Speaker 1: a really young group of offensive linemen, and if Cody
Speaker 1: has consistency at that left guard position, here's a guy
Speaker 1: that could help Tevin become that dominating left tackle that
Speaker 1: you need to have for the next ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cody's twenty eight. If that he's twenty six, So yes,
Speaker 1: I also up thirty, which is you know, I'm good
Speaker 1: with Jim. I mean, I know the experience level. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a bunch of starts between those interior guys
Speaker 1: now and what they decide to do ultimately. It's a
Speaker 1: task that you could be creative with, Jim in terms of, Okay,
Speaker 1: close your eyes, what you're starting five offensive line look
Speaker 1: like on day one? Yeah, I would think it would
Speaker 1: be Jenkins at at left tackle. I think white Hair
Speaker 1: will be at the left guards or well, depending on
Speaker 1: what they do with James Daniels, I should say, but
Speaker 1: I would say white Hair at the left guard must
Speaker 1: have heer at center depending on what they do. I
Speaker 1: think there's a position battle going at right guard, and
Speaker 1: I would think Coffetti would be the right tackle. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Larry Boram an opportunity to take that
Speaker 1: right tackle spot. If he's able to take it, then
Speaker 1: I kick Caffetti down to right guard, is what I
Speaker 1: think they'll do. But I would give Larry Boreham every
Speaker 1: opportunity at right tackle, Jim and Jap. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at game day rosters and how many offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: Alex Bars gives those guys the backup strength. He can
Speaker 1: play center, he can play either guard, and he's played tackle.
Speaker 1: So here's a guy that his versatility could be his
Speaker 1: biggest asset. And if he's not a starter, he's gonna
Speaker 1: play an enormously huge important role of maybe being the
Speaker 1: sixth offensive lineman and short yardage and goal line packages.
Speaker 1: But he's got to have that mental capacity to be
Speaker 1: able to hold that down any single assignment that's asked
Speaker 1: of him, from right tackle, the left tackle, and everyone
Speaker 1: in between. And they also have the young guys they
Speaker 1: drafted Arlington Hambright, Lechevia Simmons the prior year Dieter Ellison,
Speaker 1: who is the guy they drafted undrafted free agent rather
Speaker 1: than Elijah Wilkinson who came over a five year veteran
Speaker 1: from the Denver Broncos. That's Tom Fair, Jim Milhim, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: whole segment talking about justin field, because the first thing
Speaker 1: that we're gonna hear is, Okay, when's he getting on
Speaker 1: the field. It's almost going to be a weekly Q
Speaker 1: and a from the media, how's he doing? Monitoring his progress.
Speaker 1: It'll start in the in the first veteran mini camp
Speaker 1: at the end of jr middle of June, and it's
Speaker 1: going to continue over the course of time. Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback as camp begins, and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be let's just call it what it is. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough the moment any mistakes are made, because when
Speaker 1: fans are in the stands its soldier field. They're gonna
Speaker 1: want justin fields. That's just how it works. Well, they
Speaker 1: really are. The bottom line is, you can only play
Speaker 1: a player when he's ready to play. A lot of
Speaker 1: times I always say it's it's by happenstance, Like Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: You know, if Tommy Maddox didn't get hurt, Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: doesn't go fifteen and one is rookie season, you know
Speaker 1: that those are just happenstaffed things where an injury forces
Speaker 1: a young quarterback into the lineup. The Bears have a
Speaker 1: good quarterback room with Nick Foles and Andy Dalton. They
Speaker 1: both have played a lot. They can bring along the
Speaker 1: young quarterback and they'll be unselfish in doing so. But
Speaker 1: I think Matt Naggie has already talked about it. You
Speaker 1: don't want to throw a young player to the wolves.
Speaker 1: That's where you can destroy a lot of young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields needs more polish. He needs to learn a
Speaker 1: pro style offense more than that's different than the power
Speaker 1: spread that he ran into Ohio State. And he's got
Speaker 1: all the ability in the world to do it. But
Speaker 1: you'll only put a quarterback on the field when he's
Speaker 1: ready to play. That's the route. For example, Miami went
Speaker 1: last year with two a tongue of viola. How many
Speaker 1: times that Brian Flores says, We're not putting him in
Speaker 1: until he's ready to play. He's got to be able
Speaker 1: to protect himself and he's got to be able to
Speaker 1: execute all the things that he's being asked to execute.
Speaker 1: So I think they'll take them their time with Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: But his timetable is up to him how hard he studies,
Speaker 1: how hard he works, how fast the offense sinks into him,
Speaker 1: and when that happens, then he'll be ready to be
Speaker 1: inserted into lineup. And I think at some point this
Speaker 1: year it will happen for the Chicago Bears. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to take him as a blank slate,
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the top three athletes on the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. But I think judgment day is going to
Speaker 1: come from his mental responses initially in the meeting room.
Speaker 1: The way it is for a quarterback to wait is
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman. Dick Stanfeld would have us actually
Speaker 1: read in that room to show that the developed camaraderie there.
Speaker 1: To get up on the board and make sure that
Speaker 1: you can diagram every single assignment of every single player
Speaker 1: on the board at the right time. If he asked
Speaker 1: you a question in the middle of a sentence, you'd
Speaker 1: better be able to answer it quickly enough that you're
Speaker 1: both paying attention you know exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the initial evaluation process of justin fields.
Speaker 1: If he's being able to absorb everything mentally in the classroom,
Speaker 1: it's going to be really encouraging. So when they take
Speaker 1: them out in the field and they go through those
Speaker 1: repetitiously run drills on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: and that's when you're going to be able to use
Speaker 1: his athleticism and try to look at the development of
Speaker 1: those other trades. But, like Jim says, in every quarterback
Speaker 1: across the league, it'll put you in harm's way if
Speaker 1: you're not mentally ready to run the system efficiently to
Speaker 1: keep all your assets in a positive in a positive way.
Speaker 1: I do think that the history that Matt Nagee has
Speaker 1: with the rookie year of Patrick Mahomes, what they call
Speaker 1: the blueprint of how they got them ready, is certainly
Speaker 1: something to start with. Jim. It's a great place to start.
Speaker 1: And you know, everybody coaches everybody different, everybody adapts differently.
Speaker 1: And it does sound it's time alluded to about the
Speaker 1: mental aspect of things that this guy is a really
Speaker 1: good processor, does have an unbelievable ability to digest that information.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's super smart. Yeah, when I talked to
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach, he raved about him.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know leading up to the draft
Speaker 1: over his question while he's the last guy in the building,
Speaker 1: first guy to leave it, I don't buy into any
Speaker 1: of that, and Ryan Day pretty much shot that down.
Speaker 1: This guy, this is a guy who basically the Big
Speaker 1: ten wasn't going to play right. It was Justin Fields
Speaker 1: in his family that got the Big ten to play.
Speaker 1: So this guy is a very motivated self starter, a
Speaker 1: guy that gets things going. So people forget that that
Speaker 1: it was Justin Fields who got everybody together for the
Speaker 1: Big ten to even play football. Last year. So tells
Speaker 1: you about his love of the game, that he wants
Speaker 1: to play football, that will work extremely hard, and he'll
Speaker 1: stick his neck out there for not only his own team,
Speaker 1: but the entire Big Ten and every team in the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. That's what this young man did. And you
Speaker 1: brought up Ryan Day he met with the media last
Speaker 1: week through a lot of praise towards Matt Nagge and
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace for their approach in this whole process. The
Speaker 1: relationship goes back to when we played each other, Um
Speaker 1: in college. Um. He was a quarterback at Delaware, I
Speaker 1: wasn't in Hampshire. We had some great battles against each other. Um,
Speaker 1: and we've stayed in touch, um, and just you know
Speaker 1: through you know, when I was in the NFL. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, he was in the NFL as a quarterback coach,
Speaker 1: and so we kind of stayed in touch that way.
Speaker 1: And then when he got to the Bears, UM, you know,
Speaker 1: he would call about some of our players, always really good,
Speaker 1: one of the better guys I've been around, just asking questions.
Speaker 1: And then um, even as as early as you know,
Speaker 1: when justin gut here, Um, he and I would talk
Speaker 1: about justin a little bit and I gotta give Matt credit,
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace credit, everybody in the in the Bears organization.
Speaker 1: I thought they did an unbelievable job in this process,
Speaker 1: not only you know, asking all the right questions, but
Speaker 1: um but but I think this is a great fit
Speaker 1: and just the way that they went about their business
Speaker 1: was really professional, and I feel great for them. Um.
Speaker 1: But but I hope our relationship can can help along
Speaker 1: the way. Um. You know, anytime you know, anybody in
Speaker 1: the NFL asked us for access about our players, we
Speaker 1: try to do it. But it was great to have
Speaker 1: that extra relationship with Matt. I know Ryan was a
Speaker 1: huge part of this as well, and they have a
Speaker 1: great staff. So I'm excited for the city of Chicago
Speaker 1: to see Justin fields and this is going to be
Speaker 1: a fun time to be a part of and watch
Speaker 1: from Columbus. But we're gonna we're all Bears fans now
Speaker 1: and really happy for Matt and for Ryan. Tommy couldn't
Speaker 1: have said it any better right there. But from your
Speaker 1: perspective as an offensive lineman, Jim den Chiman as well,
Speaker 1: what does it take for these young offensive linemen to
Speaker 1: block for a guy like this because of his legs
Speaker 1: now Ohio State didn't want him running all over the place.
Speaker 1: When he did, it looked really good. We've seen the
Speaker 1: highlight this week of him racing downfield after a completion
Speaker 1: helping block to get his receiver into the end zone.
Speaker 1: I just pure effort in a game in the Big ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, all sorts of things point to a guy
Speaker 1: that can carve up a defense with his legs is
Speaker 1: more challenging block a guy like that. It is challenging
Speaker 1: when he gets into an ad lib type of scenario
Speaker 1: where if protection breaks down. Now Justin Fields is on
Speaker 1: the booth because it's really you can't see behind you.
Speaker 1: You can only block what's in front of you. And
Speaker 1: so when they get a better feel of what are
Speaker 1: his tendencies, what are Justin Fields like to do when
Speaker 1: he feels pressure, which way does he like to move?
Speaker 1: You know? Now they say, oh, push Aaron Rodgers to
Speaker 1: the left because that's where he's vulnerable. Blooney, The guy
Speaker 1: can throw from anywhere on the field he wants to.
Speaker 1: But those are the types of tendencies that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to learn from Justin. And so if they
Speaker 1: have a pocket construction called out of the huddle. They
Speaker 1: have to understand where is this pocket most likely gonna
Speaker 1: not necessarily break down, but where will he force to go?
Speaker 1: And it's just the little things, the little subtleties you'll
Speaker 1: learn because you realize that you have an athlete behind
Speaker 1: you and not a stationary target like some guys have
Speaker 1: a tendency to be. Jimmy did get sacked I think
Speaker 1: forty eight times in college, had I think twelve fumbles.
Speaker 1: So these are areas that you know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to keep a focus on as well for him, right, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Ball security is everything, and your decision making and taking
Speaker 1: care of the ball is going to be paramount. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that he had too many fumbles. From
Speaker 1: that standpoint, he's got to be smart about getting down,
Speaker 1: not taking the vicious shots like he did in that
Speaker 1: game against Clemson. Obviously, had had hurt him the following
Speaker 1: week when he had to line up against Alabama because
Speaker 1: he wasn't entirely healthy. He's a big, strong guy. But
Speaker 1: just because you're big and strong like that, be smart.
Speaker 1: No one to slide, weigh the risks and rewards, run
Speaker 1: out of bounds when you need to. But I really
Speaker 1: like his intermediate passing and his deep stuff. He can
Speaker 1: get his deep footballs out a little bit earlier. From
Speaker 1: that standpoint, his best football is ahead of him. This
Speaker 1: guy basically transferred into a house date. He's the two
Speaker 1: time Big Ten Player of the Year because he's got
Speaker 1: all kinds of ability. But he's not a polished product yet.
Speaker 1: All those saying need to be brought to his attention,
Speaker 1: and he needs to get better, and I believe he
Speaker 1: will be better as he moved forward as a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. TIM there's been comparisons already to his
Speaker 1: style of a Donovan McNabb. That's a name that pops
Speaker 1: in and I can I can see that the body type.
Speaker 1: This is not some skinny quarterback who has size. This
Speaker 1: is a well built athlete and very very strong, durable guy.
Speaker 1: It looks like to me. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the comparison that you would say, but from your conversations
Speaker 1: with some NFL people, what are they saying. You know,
Speaker 1: he's got the frame of Donovan McNabb and Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: He's got the elusiveness of the conditioning, the feat of
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: perfect combination of both. Because when we were all young
Speaker 1: guys and Donovan McNabb came on the scene, he was
Speaker 1: a special athlete play in the position. But we kind
Speaker 1: of were aware of that because of his time in
Speaker 1: high school around here in what we got the way
Speaker 1: we got to see him on that offense in college.
Speaker 1: But offenses have changed since Donovan McNabb came into the league.
Speaker 1: They were using his athleticism as traits and the durability
Speaker 1: to develop that offense in Philly, and with the coaches
Speaker 1: that he played for, they were still a kind of
Speaker 1: a pass happy type of offense with the running game
Speaker 1: in a strong defense behind it. Now, the way the
Speaker 1: game has changed, you can take video evidence of Russell
Speaker 1: and you can take video evidence of Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: try to incorporate him into the game of justin field.
Speaker 1: So I think he can be more threatening against defenses.
Speaker 1: He can change the way you rush, you are rushed
Speaker 1: against because they're worried if he gets outside the pocket,
Speaker 1: it could be damaging. That's town fair. Jim Meller Jeff
Speaker 1: jonahac Here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score
Speaker 1: step away, We'll get into the other draft picks outside
Speaker 1: of Justin Fields as he gets his debut with the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears coming up at Rookie Minicamp. Just here in
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Speaker 1: this pre schedule from seven till eight. So next week's
Speaker 1: going to be exciting. Any guess is who the Bears
Speaker 1: open the season with Jim No guess is what you love?
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's odds on all this. Now we
Speaker 1: can make money on this, Yeah, Tim, Yeah I did.
Speaker 1: Did they play Cincinnati? I mean, it's it's fun to
Speaker 1: talk about, that's for sure. How the schedule stacks up,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't make a difference when you play a
Speaker 1: team and how and now we know where they're gonna
Speaker 1: play teams. We just don't know when it'll be fun
Speaker 1: And I know fans in the stands, if everything goes well,
Speaker 1: I should be an exciting added bonus to this, for sure. Tom.
Speaker 1: Let's start talking about some other draft picks here. Larry Borham.
Speaker 1: We touched on him earlier, Missouri big guy at one
Speaker 1: point north the three fifty, because that's the way they
Speaker 1: wanted him there. They wanted big guys. Now he's back
Speaker 1: around three thirty and seems like he's got that Detroit
Speaker 1: nasty to him too. Yeah. You know, I'm glad he
Speaker 1: played basketball as a young man because I think at
Speaker 1: this size he's probably developed into a better short area
Speaker 1: athlete because of the footwork that he repetitiously practiced in
Speaker 1: basketball as a young man. However, When I look at Larry,
Speaker 1: he's got all the trade and the reason he was
Speaker 1: drafted because he shows all the willingness to participate, the
Speaker 1: hard play, the offensive tackle, taken up space. However, he
Speaker 1: is going to have to be getting he has. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to get in better physical condition. And when
Speaker 1: you talk about getting up to three fifty, you know
Speaker 1: it's easily done by eating, but your body just doesn't
Speaker 1: acclimate to that type of way. You have a chance
Speaker 1: of being a better physically conditioned athlete at a lighter weight.
Speaker 1: And some of the guys that you're going to have
Speaker 1: to play against, you better have some knee bends. To
Speaker 1: play against the guy like Khalil Mack. You better have
Speaker 1: speed out of your stance in order to, you know,
Speaker 1: get in front of these speed rushers. So I think
Speaker 1: Larry has the traits and the length and the size
Speaker 1: and the power, but he's got to develop more in
Speaker 1: the weight room and in the cafeteria. Jim, you hear
Speaker 1: about him from Detroit. Yeah, Well he went to Brother Rice.
Speaker 1: It's a really a fine prep school right up the
Speaker 1: road here, so that it's a very good football program.
Speaker 1: Ends up at Missoo is played left tackle. He's played
Speaker 1: left guard and he's played right tackle. As Tom mentioned,
Speaker 1: he's a massive man. Now, this guy's a massive man.
Speaker 1: He's got to show that he can handle the lateral
Speaker 1: movement at the tackle spot, and I think you're going
Speaker 1: to try him at tackle and if it doesn't work
Speaker 1: out there, then you kick him in the guard. But
Speaker 1: all these guys try him at that position, I think
Speaker 1: you'll get that type of movement at the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage that you're looking for. He's got to work on
Speaker 1: his hand placement, but I think you try him at
Speaker 1: tackle and if that doesn't work out, then you kick
Speaker 1: him into guard. Jeff. One more snippet about that is
Speaker 1: when Justin Fields gets the opportunity to play, you got
Speaker 1: to realize that this offensive line has to be in
Speaker 1: better condition than they've ever been before. Because when we
Speaker 1: watched Russell Wilson come into the league, he would out
Speaker 1: condition his offensive line and the defense he was playing against.
Speaker 1: You saw the offensive line and hands in their hips
Speaker 1: in the huddle suck an air. Same thing with the defense.
Speaker 1: So when Justin gets on the field, he's got to
Speaker 1: realize he's a more difficult sacked guy. So they got
Speaker 1: to be able to keep on their feet and sustained
Speaker 1: blocks probably a second to a second and a half
Speaker 1: longer than they would with a less elusive quarterback. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk Das Newsom out of North Carolina. An intriguing
Speaker 1: player here, a guy that willingly opened up and his
Speaker 1: newser on zoom that he loves the block. Don't forget
Speaker 1: that aspect of my game. I think he is an
Speaker 1: outstanding watching his highlights, he loves the summersault. After he
Speaker 1: makes the catchy summersaults back up, he's constantly summersaulting. So
Speaker 1: he shows me some great athleticism and out of the
Speaker 1: slot Jim, because I do think that is an area
Speaker 1: where the Bears could really flourish with competition, and I
Speaker 1: think bringing in some veterans in there too to help
Speaker 1: out in that battle. And we still don't know what
Speaker 1: the future looks like for Anthony Miller. This this could
Speaker 1: be the best thing to happen to Anthony Miller. But
Speaker 1: also don't underestimate this guy. He's ready to play. Dazz
Speaker 1: Newsom even though he's a sixth round pick. Yeah, Andy
Speaker 1: pounds and he's got great short area quickness. Just go
Speaker 1: look at his three cone drill and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Immediately he could minimum be on the field right away
Speaker 1: for the Bears. As a punt return this guy is
Speaker 1: a terrific punt returner in terms of his average and
Speaker 1: things like that. Like most receivers, needs a better route running.
Speaker 1: He had some drops. He'd fixed it with getting to contacts,
Speaker 1: so that's helped him out in terms of that, but
Speaker 1: it needs more polished in terms of his route running.
Speaker 1: A great run after the catch ability. He definitely will
Speaker 1: push Anthony Miller and hopefully the light bulb goes off
Speaker 1: because this guy will be ready to ready to compete
Speaker 1: because he wants to play and get on the field.
Speaker 1: One thing for Newsom, I would say it's the Darnell
Speaker 1: Mooney approach that they had set up. Here's a guy
Speaker 1: that came on late. It was able to be a
Speaker 1: huge contributor, just like in the second half of the season,
Speaker 1: Cole Comett was a larger contributor to the tight end
Speaker 1: position than Jimmy Graham. So Bears are not adverse to
Speaker 1: playing young guys as soon as they're ready to get
Speaker 1: on the field. Oh no, it's huge. And you know
Speaker 1: the speed component of Mooney clearly. And then you bring
Speaker 1: in the veteran Demre Bird who's also a kick return
Speaker 1: punt return threat with his speed back in his days
Speaker 1: in college four to eight. And Marquis good One who
Speaker 1: was competing in I wasn't even aware of this. Larry
Speaker 1: Mayor Chicago Bears dot Com wrote it. He was competing
Speaker 1: in long jump competition and he had the fourth best
Speaker 1: time in the world a month ago. So he's ready.
Speaker 1: He's ready to row as well. So a lot of
Speaker 1: good things happened in the receiver position. Of course, Alan
Speaker 1: Robinson coming back on his franchise tag that's already signed.
Speaker 1: They've got until July fifteenth to work on a long
Speaker 1: term deal. All right, we have one more segment to go.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from Virginia Tech head coach Justine Flente on
Speaker 1: Clil Herbert, the running back out of Virginia Tech. Will
Speaker 1: break him down and the rest of the draft after
Speaker 1: this on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to our final segment here on Bears All Access
Speaker 1: were brought to you by IGS Energy. Good to have
Speaker 1: Jim Miller sticking around from Sirius x MNFL Radio and
Speaker 1: Tom There breaking down the draft before we go back
Speaker 1: into the Bears draft. How great a feeling and Jim,
Speaker 1: hopefully God won you know, one of one of your
Speaker 1: boys will make it to the National Football League and
Speaker 1: you'll have that same kind of pride that Chris Rumped.
Speaker 1: The defensive line coach of the Bears, thrilled to see
Speaker 1: his son there together in their home in Houston. He
Speaker 1: got picked in the fourth round by the LA Chargers,
Speaker 1: a promising defensive ent out of Duke. The dad called
Speaker 1: it a remarkable feeling. I don't even know how to
Speaker 1: describe that. When you're a coach in the National Football
Speaker 1: League for the first time and your son gets picked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's well, it was littered throughout this draft. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at Winfield, Winfield and what he was able
Speaker 1: to do, and obviously JC Horne here's another His dad
Speaker 1: was a great receiver from that standpoint, So you know,
Speaker 1: it is good to see. You know, I encourage my sons.
Speaker 1: I try not to force and play football if they
Speaker 1: if they want to play it, I'm gonna support them
Speaker 1: one percent and give them everything they can or everything
Speaker 1: I can give them to succeed. And you know, it'd
Speaker 1: be a dream of mine if one of my boys
Speaker 1: could could do that, but I don't force upon him.
Speaker 1: They've got to want it and do it for themselves.
Speaker 1: They're their own man. And I would think Coach Rump
Speaker 1: would say that about his son as well. Tom always
Speaker 1: the moment for your mom and dad. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: the youngest in the family, so I you know, so
Speaker 1: it was different because all I had so much support
Speaker 1: from my older brothers and sisters and my mom and dad,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, football and sports were new
Speaker 1: to us because my sisters didn't play sports at the
Speaker 1: time then, and our family was led to football by
Speaker 1: my brother and I followed in his footsteps. So he
Speaker 1: was quite an inspiration for me. So I was proud.
Speaker 1: I was proud to be able to do it. But
Speaker 1: my brother was a fullback. I was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: And it's something you know, you talk about the fathers
Speaker 1: that have the kids playing, do you want to play
Speaker 1: your same position or do you want to maybe venture
Speaker 1: off into different territory and where their talents take them.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk running back Codel Herbert out of
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech by way of Kansas. His head coach Justin Fuente,
Speaker 1: and I had a conversation this week about the rookie
Speaker 1: running back. All Right, coach, thanks for taking some time
Speaker 1: tell us about this young man. Because the first thing
Speaker 1: that pops in my head, it's big task to leave
Speaker 1: one university where you spent four years, drop yourself in,
Speaker 1: be a star of the program, do a great job.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, we got a pandemic
Speaker 1: going on. So how the heck did he you know,
Speaker 1: bridge that gap and earn the respect of coaches and
Speaker 1: players and teammates in that short amount of time, during
Speaker 1: this difficult time. Well, I think, first and foremost, he
Speaker 1: did it with a humble, hardworking frame of mind, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it was a non traditional season, to say
Speaker 1: the least. He had a non traditional road. We did
Speaker 1: a lot of work, background work on Khalil. None of
Speaker 1: it had to do with how good a football player
Speaker 1: he was. All of it had to do with how
Speaker 1: good a person he was, and he exceeded our expectations.
Speaker 1: Just was a fantastic fit for us, both on and
Speaker 1: off the field. And obviously it was very productive, but
Speaker 1: just uh fit right in from day one, even through
Speaker 1: all the trials and tribulations that that made up last season.
Speaker 1: When he got the media on zoom. I was taken
Speaker 1: by the idea that you know, running backs, cornerbacks, wide receivers,
Speaker 1: you know him, they all have a pretty strong feeling
Speaker 1: about what they can do, but he said he can
Speaker 1: do everything. Is that a fair assessment of Tellio Herbert?
Speaker 1: I think so, you know, he this is a highly
Speaker 1: intelligent young man that's going to pick up the schemes quickly.
Speaker 1: I think you know what we saw from him, which
Speaker 1: we didn't use him as much on special teams. He
Speaker 1: was our kick returner, but when we turned on our
Speaker 1: training video on the punt team and on kickoff team,
Speaker 1: he's on those those training videos too. So this is
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna that's gonna search for a way
Speaker 1: to help the football team. You know, he's got good hands,
Speaker 1: he's an established route runner, he's got a great vision
Speaker 1: and balance. But you know he wants to contribute to
Speaker 1: the team, and I think he'll he'll do about what
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to try and kind of hammer out
Speaker 1: a role. And you know, he came from American Heritage
Speaker 1: high school guys in Fort Lauderdale area, and I think
Speaker 1: seven guys from this class are on NFL rosters right
Speaker 1: now from this draft class. So and it was Patrick
Speaker 1: Curtan senior that coach the football team. So crazy talent.
Speaker 1: Do you think that is part of the process for
Speaker 1: a guy like this probably's not thrilled that he's a
Speaker 1: sixth round pick and feels maybe a bit overlooked because
Speaker 1: he was fifth in the nation and rushing last year.
Speaker 1: Tom that he's going to have from the day he
Speaker 1: started playing football. The competition was fierce at that high
Speaker 1: school and now it's just continuing on. But that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I think that he'll probably be
Speaker 1: one of the quicker contributors, because when you talk about
Speaker 1: a running back, it's about a vision inadability to prepredict
Speaker 1: how the holes are going to open up in front
Speaker 1: of you. And when you go back and you watch
Speaker 1: his tapes game tapes, not just a highlight tape, you
Speaker 1: can see that ina to Bill to be able to
Speaker 1: read what's going on in front of him. When you
Speaker 1: talk about the receivers of the defensive backs, receiver you
Speaker 1: have to fit that relationship with with your quarterback. Defensive
Speaker 1: backs you have to figure out how you fit into
Speaker 1: that defense and the different assignments you have to learn However,
Speaker 1: the impact of a running back. They can come in
Speaker 1: here and they can play if they have those traits
Speaker 1: that they showed throughout their college career. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: You know, we remember when the Bears drafted David Montgomer,
Speaker 1: everybody raved about. Look, he breaks the most tackles of
Speaker 1: any player in college football. I would say this about
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert and Tom to touch on. His greatness is
Speaker 1: his vision, his ability to see the hole, hit the hole,
Speaker 1: and get through the hole. And that's what he's been.
Speaker 1: That's where he's accumulated his most yards. He's got a
Speaker 1: seven point seven average. He had over eleven hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Does have kick return ability and is a three down back,
Speaker 1: so it can be a contributor on other specialty is
Speaker 1: whether he's the up back on the punt team and
Speaker 1: things like that. But his vision is probably his best trait.
Speaker 1: And if the should have Damian Williams in the backfield
Speaker 1: along with David Montgomery and some other guys that are
Speaker 1: in the mix, a pretty healthy position right now. Defensive
Speaker 1: back Thomas Graham at Oregon the last pick in the
Speaker 1: sixth round, number two, twenty eight opt out guy last year,
Speaker 1: but a ton of experienced Tom forty games, eight interceptions,
Speaker 1: thirty two pass breakups, and I guess that's the key
Speaker 1: for me. So he got his hands on forty balls
Speaker 1: and forty games. Nickel corner, that's where I hope that
Speaker 1: they expose his opportunity too, because I think it's as
Speaker 1: equally as important position as any position on the defense.
Speaker 1: If you don't have that nickel cornerback, you'll get picked
Speaker 1: apart all day and they will make you stay on
Speaker 1: the field. So I like to see the competition at
Speaker 1: that position because I still think there's some guys waiting
Speaker 1: in the wings to see the best out of themselves. However,
Speaker 1: Graham is going to be that next candidate to come
Speaker 1: in and compete. Yeah, who's you know, Duke Shelley's gonna
Speaker 1: have some competition. You know, they got to create that competition.
Speaker 1: From that standpoint, I agree with Tom. Five ten, one
Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds looks to be more of a nickel corner.
Speaker 1: He's a very good tackler and as you mentioned, comes
Speaker 1: with a ton of past breakups from that stamps point,
Speaker 1: so he's very instinctive. I don't know about his deep
Speaker 1: end recovery speed, but his short area quickness, looks to
Speaker 1: fit that bill as a nickel slack corner. And he's
Speaker 1: got some physicality to him indeed, and then the Bears
Speaker 1: picked up a seventh in a trade with Seattle and
Speaker 1: use it on a BYU big boy nose tackle Chiris
Speaker 1: Tonga Tom tell us about him, be big man. You know,
Speaker 1: one thing I like about Ciris is that he can
Speaker 1: do everything that's asked out a defensive lineman. He's not
Speaker 1: a one dimensional creative stalemate and let someone else come
Speaker 1: and make the tackle if you want to run creative
Speaker 1: line stunts. He has the ability to be deceptive but
Speaker 1: still get around the corner. He's got ability to create
Speaker 1: a one on one stalemate with his head up and
Speaker 1: get involved in the tackle. He can stop, excuse me,
Speaker 1: two defensive lineman at once and allow that that linebacker
Speaker 1: to run free. They need a big man in the middle.
Speaker 1: I know they have any gold and coming back. However,
Speaker 1: when you talk about the size, the ability of this
Speaker 1: body to stay low and be powerful, Tongan's gonna have
Speaker 1: a fun opportunity to be a contributor. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. Danny Trevathan, Roe Kwon, Josh Woods Joe Ellie
Speaker 1: Booney way, they better go and introduce themselves of the
Speaker 1: big Man, because he's going to help them in their
Speaker 1: career as much as any other player on the field
Speaker 1: six twenty five pounds. I saw a game with him
Speaker 1: against Coastal Carolina. He had twelve pass breakups in a
Speaker 1: game where he's batting in town. So he's very aware
Speaker 1: of what's going on around him and has the ability
Speaker 1: to anchor yep. Uniquely gets his hands up in the air.
Speaker 1: Fell As we are out of time, we could continue
Speaker 1: to talk about at the roster now almost at ninety
Speaker 1: will continue to break down even some undrafted guys. Keep
Speaker 1: an eye on linebacker Caleb Johnson out of Houston Baptist,
Speaker 1: guy that could make an early impression as we break
Speaker 1: down the Bears at twenty twenty one. Good to have you, guys.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. For Tom Thayre Mother,
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Johnny Act. Thanks for listening to everybody. This
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