1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: The Volume. All right, welcome to Hoops to Night. Here 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: at the Volume, Happy Saturday, everybody covers with the Western 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Conference Finals. Here at Hoops Tonight is brought to you 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: by Chase Freedom Unlimited. How do you cash back? Well, 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets go into Los Angeles and are the 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: very first team in this playoff run to beat the Lakers, 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: and they did it kind of convincingly. Convincingly, the Lakers 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of let go of the rope there at the end. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie as someone who is rooting for 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers, I'm a little bummed. 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So first of all, I just want to say, 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: obviously the series isn't technically over, but I do believe 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: that the Nuggets are going to advance to the NBA Finals, 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: and I actually am most likely going to pick them 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: to win the title regardless of who comes out of 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. So I want to start by just 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: saying congratulations to all you Denver Nuggets fans. There are 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of you out there who have been supporting 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: the show over the course of the season, and I'm 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: sure for a lot of you listening to me during 54 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: this series as a Laker fan, it's spend a little 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: weird because obviously I'm going to bring my fan hood 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: to of my fanhood to the table, but I just 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: want to say congratulations to you guys. Beyond this season, 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: this is going to be a really fun team for 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you guys to root for for several years moving forward, 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: and when you really look at the timeline stuff with 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: this group, and we're gonna get to that in a 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: minute like it, it's this there's a very bright future 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: here and I'm very very happy for you guys. So 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the uh this roster a little bit, 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: because again, there's a reason why I didn't pick the 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Nuggets to win this series above and beyond the Laker matchup, 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: and why I would not have picked them to win 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: the title going into this playoff run even if the 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Lakers weren't involved, And it's just rules. You know, my 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: dad raised me on a simple idea, the idea that 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: the best indicator of future performance is past performance. So 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: when you're projecting or planning for things, you should go 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: based on you know what the past has taught you, right, 74 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: And it's just a good way to try to avoid 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: potholes and pitfalls in life and try to navigate safely. Right. 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: And one of the things that you know, I've learned 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: that we've all learned covering the league is like, you 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: don't win if you don't have a top ten defense 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: unless you have an otherworldly talented which the Nuggets don't. 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: They're a fantastic basketball team, but no one's comparing this 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: team to the twenty seventeen Warriors. Right, And I was 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: on with Mark Ryan was CBS Sports Radio earlier today 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and he goes, he goes, why do you think so 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: many people have underrated the Nuggets or haven't picked them 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: to win? And I told him, I was like, look, 86 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: all of these basketball analysts out there, they have a job, 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: so to speak, to cover the league and to learn 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and to try to project forward with those things, just 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: like we're talking about, and they're all following the same rules. 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're talking a lot of Nuggets. 91 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: A lot of analysts picked the Nuggets to win this series, 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: but not very many people pick the Nuggets to win 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the title. And that's kind of what he's referencing. And 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: what I told him is like going into the field, right, 95 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: with the field of sixteen teams, you know, you've got 96 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: the team who won the title in twenty twenty one, 97 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: that top ten defense, elite rim protection, you know, superstar talent, 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: all the things you look for. Right, you had a 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: team in the Boston Celtics who was two wins away 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: last year. Elite defense, has rim protection, has star talent, 101 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: all those different things. You have the Golden State Warriors, 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: the defending champion, who have the same core seven players 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: that hoisted the trophy last year, have elite rim protection, 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: bona fide superstar talent, all those things. The Los Angeles 105 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: Lakers Lebron James and Anthony Davis, and good role players 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: who won the title in twenty twenty and once again 107 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: elite rim protection, elite defense. So we had a bunch 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of teams that were just safer bets, you know. And 109 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean like the people who picked the Nuggets 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: to win the title, obviously they're prescient in a lot 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: of ways. But the point is is, like, it's not 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: disrespect to the Nuggets to learn from the lessons that 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: NBA history has taught us and to pick accordingly. That's 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: why I picked against the Nuggets. But here I am now, 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: and I've learned. I've learned that I was wrong and 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: that all of us were wrong, right, And that's what's 117 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: interesting to me. How does a team that finished fifteenth 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: in defense and has by far the worst defensive front 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: court of any recent NBA champion, why is it that 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I think that team is going to have the Larry 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: O'Brien Trophy in three weeks? Why I want to dive 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: into that a little bit so I wrote down some notes, 123 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: and the first thing I wrote is become truly unguardable. 124 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: This Laker team has really high end defensive talent, and 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: they run these lineups where it's Anthony Davis and Lebron 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: James flying around in the back line. They've got another 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: big forward, whether it's Vanderbuilt or Ruey, and those are 128 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: actually better forwards than the twenty twenty Lakers had. And 129 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: defensively at the guard position, they're not as good as 130 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: they were in twenty twenty, but they're better at the 131 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: forward position. Right, and more importantly, this particular team has 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: a bigger defensive identity simply because that's the only way 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: they can win games because they struggle so much offensively 134 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: at times. Right, and there was never really a stretch 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: where the Lakers shut down the Nuggets. There were stretches 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty where they shut down the Nuggets. There 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: were stretch against the Warriors and Grizzlies, or they shut 138 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: down those teams. They the best defensive stretch in this 139 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: series was the first half of Game one and they 140 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: still got forty eight points. You get the point. Denver 141 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: has become truly unguardable, and I think it stems from 142 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: a couple of different things, perfectly complimentary stars. So when 143 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the Jokich Murray action takes place, you have no good option. 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: If you switch, you're going to switch a forward onto 145 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray who can attack, or you're gonna switch a 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: small onto Nikola Jokic, who can attack. Right, if you 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: sit in a drop coverage, you're gonna concede shots. If you 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: step up on those shots, you're gonna leave the role 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: open to Jokic. And if you help on Jokic, and 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: this is the pivotal part. Yokich is such a good playmaker. 151 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: And even Jamal Murray, who in college averaged more turnovers 152 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: than assists, has become a good playmaker six assists per 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: game in this postseason run. And this is the This 154 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: is part two. Not just guys who can shoot off 155 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: ball deadly off ball threats like cannot leave them open 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: off ball threats in Kntavious Cabo Pope and Michael Porter Junior. 157 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior was like one point three points per 158 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: spot up possession this season, which was top of the 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: league for the vast majority of the season. That's how 160 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: good Michael Porter Junior is He's absolutely devastating, deadly if 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: you leave him open. And then Kntavious Cable Pope, and 162 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: again I have been telling you Nuggets fans all season, 163 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: I've been I covered him with the Lakers in twenty 164 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty one, one of my absolute favorite role players. I 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: said at the time of the Russell Westbrook trade that 166 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: CACP was better than Russ. Right then, KCP and Kyle Kuzma, 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: we're both better than Russ. Right then. That's how much 168 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: I value Kntavious Cabo Pope as just a guy who 169 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: can lock and trail play individual defense, attack closeouts extremely well, 170 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: knockdown threes at a high clip, hit movement shots coming 171 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: off a dribble, handoffs, one of the best transition defense 172 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and offense guards that there is in the league. And 173 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: he was absolutely deadly in his catch and shoot situations 174 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: in this series. Then Aaron Gordon, the one guy that's 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: technically not a shooting threat. He's amazing at everything you 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: need to be amazing at in order to be effective 177 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: in an off ball roll when you're not a shooter, 178 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: and that is the ability to offensive rebound, but also 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: also to get deep seals inside when they need him. 180 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: To and he's got the ability. He's like in the 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: NBA two K video games, which I used to play 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: a lot more when I'm younger. I can't remember the 183 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: last time I did, but they used to have a 184 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: metric for standing jump, right, it was like standing vertical 185 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: and running vertical, I think, or something like that. Like 186 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon's standing jump, his ability to rise up from 187 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: directly under the rim, regardless of where he's at and 188 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: finish is as good as anybody you'll find in the league. 189 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: And so it even became an adjustment that the Nuggets 190 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: were able to attack where like Anthony Davis is on 191 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon, so he can help, but like Jamal Murray 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: just has to get to the rint and just kind 193 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: of throws something up, and as long as Anthony Davis 194 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: comes over, Aaron Gordon is competing against four smaller players 195 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: to try to get that rebound and finish it, right, 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: especially when Lebron James was spending time on Michael Porter Junior, 197 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: or if Lebron is the one who got beat by 198 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray for whatever reason. Right, So, like Aaron Gordon 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: made himself a threat off the ball by virtue of 200 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: his unique skill set and just how hard he plays, 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: and so when you really put it all together, they're unguardable. 202 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: There is no good option to defend that team. That's 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: why I think they're going to win in the NBA Finals. 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Like to Darvinham's credit, and I Darvienham has had a 205 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: good postseason, and I don't agree with everything he's done. 206 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Like he he bet he Darvin Ham was at the 207 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: roulette table and kept picking red and it kept going black, 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: and he kept going red because he just thought Dlo's 209 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: gonna start making shots eventually. Right. Nope, Bruce Brown's made 210 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: twice as many threes in this series as D'angela Russell. 211 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about that matchup in 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: a minute, but you get the point, Like he bet 213 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: on D'Angelo Russell eventually getting hot and not making all 214 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: of the other bad that come with came with it 215 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: worth it, and it just never happened, right, same thing 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: with Jared Vanderbilt. He was never able to really slow 217 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: down Jamal Murray and hurt them too much on the 218 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: offensive end of the floor. So if there's one thing 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I'd be super critical of with Darvin Ham, it's just 220 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: a simple fact that he failed to make this particular adjustment, 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: but he's been good enough in the postseason that I 222 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to do that. And again, there's 223 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: a version of that that works, and you can kind 224 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: of conceptualize what he's thinking. Jamal Murray is shooting our 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: face off. We need somebody to guard him. Let's try 226 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt, you know, like we need guys to hit 227 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: those kickout threes. With the way the Nuggets pick and 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: roll coverage works, we need D'angela Russell to start hitting shots. 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: And it just didn't pay off. But again, and so 230 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: as we look at that starting group for the Nuggets 231 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: and the way that they've become unguardable, even in and 232 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: of itself, that's not enough, right, If you're unguardable, you 233 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: also need to be able to defend well enough. And 234 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I credit a couple of different things here. Schematically. I 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: love the way they use Yokic in that high drop 236 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: So Yokic is not a good rim protector, certainly not 237 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: compared to his peers, but just in a vacuum, he's 238 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: not a good rim protector. But what's genius about the 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: high drop covers that they use and they used at 240 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: various points in the series, they dropped him further back. 241 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: But what works with his high drop, and they use 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: the high drop a lot during the regular season, is 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you can't protect the rim. Let's not 244 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: protect the rim. Let's just have you be the guy 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: that you would typically be. You know, usually when you 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: guard a pick and roll three on two, you're bringing 247 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: another guy over from the weak side to be super aggressive. Right. Well, 248 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: they're basically telling Jokic like, you got one job, Like 249 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: when the dude comes over the top of the screen, 250 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you kind of just swade that pull up or catch 251 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: that driving lane, right, and then your job is just 252 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: to get the defensive rebound. And they just fly around 253 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: and rotate around him. And Caseyp's a good defender and 254 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron Gordon's good. I was really impressed with Michael 255 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Porter Junior in this series. Defensively. Jamal Murray is pretty 256 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: bad defensively, but they give him a job that he's 257 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: capable of doing, which is basically just chase over the top, right, 258 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: and it all just works and they got enough stops 259 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and so again like as we learn, like we gotta learn, 260 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: we gotta evolve as things evolve, right, So obviously, as 261 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: we go into next season, regardless of what happens, we 262 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: have to consider the Nuggets as a legitimate championship threat. 263 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Right despite not having rim protection and despite not being 264 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: a top ten defense, what is the pathway there become 265 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: truly unguardable? Find a way to defend well enough? And 266 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: it's literally that simple. So the age old question, can 267 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: your offense be good enough that you don't need to 268 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: be elite defensively to win? I think the Nuggets are 269 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: actively answering that right now in front of our eyes. 270 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: The only scenario where I see them not winning the 271 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: title is if they just go really cold on jump shots, 272 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: and that's always a threat. But if there was a 273 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: team that was gonna make them cold, it was the Lakers. 274 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: The Lakers are better defensively than Miami, and they're better 275 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: defensively than Boston. Denver's gonna get better looks against both 276 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: of those teams, and so right now, I think they're 277 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: a runaway favorite to win the title. Let's move on 278 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: to the Battle of the Bigs. So through three games, 279 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: it's become abundantly clear that Nikola Jokic is just way 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: better than Anthony Davis. Even in this game, AD was 281 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: better than Jokic for three quarters and then Ad no 282 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: show the fourth quarter, and Jokic, despite having nothing going 283 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: pushed through and made a couple of big shots, a 284 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: couple of big rebounds, a couple of big plays in 285 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to seal the deal. Jokic is better. 286 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: He's just better now. A lot of Nuggets fans were 287 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: on me before the series. Why did you say Anthony 288 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Davis is better? Again, these are just my rules. I 289 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: have my rules for the way that I recognize the 290 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: best player in the world. For me, I give credence 291 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: to the guy with the trophy. You'll appreciate that when 292 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Jokic has the trophy and some other guys playing well 293 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: chasing his tail, and I'm saying, let's give the respect 294 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: to Jokic until this guy actually takes it away from him. 295 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: That's the way it works for me. Again, Like everywhere, 296 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: there is no like Bible or like religious texts that 297 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: describes the way that basketball players are ranked. I have 298 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: my rules. You guys have your rules. I'm just gonna 299 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: tell you how I look at this stuff. For me, 300 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: with my show moving forward, I'm gonna always give preferential 301 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: treatment to the guys that have been there and done that, 302 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: especially at a championship level. If Nikola Jokic hoists v 303 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Larry O'Brien and gets the Finals MVP trophy, to me, 304 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: he's got I don't care if he don't. I don't 305 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: care if he averages twelve points a game in the 306 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: regular season next year. I just don't like that. That's 307 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: my That's my rule. I Anthony Davis, I will say this, 308 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: the gap was more than I expected. Even I knew 309 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: there was always a scenario that Jokic could out play 310 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: a d But I was really disappointed in Anthony Davis 311 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: in this series. I think both him and Lebron James 312 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: have to go back to the drawing board offensively. The 313 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. The regular season is not the 314 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: end all be all for postseason basketball, but it is 315 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: revealing you learn in the regular season. For instance, the 316 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Lakers were a great defensive team the entire season after 317 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: after the trade deadline. Not a big shock that they 318 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: went into the postseason and they were good defensively. They 319 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: were a terrible transition defense team. Are you stunned that 320 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: they were a bad transition defense team in the playoffs, 321 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make sense. Lebron James and Anthony Davis 322 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: like remarkably declined as jump shooters. Lebron kind of more 323 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: of like a one year slump. He's been pretty damn 324 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: good as a jump shooter for the last decade, really, 325 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: but in this particular season couldn't make a damn shot. 326 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: And Anthony Davis hasn't been able to make a jump 327 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: shot since the bubble, Like are you stunned that the 328 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: two guys that couldn't make jump shots all season couldn't 329 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: make jump shots in the playoffs when they needed to, 330 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Like the regular season does teach us things. It's not 331 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: the end all be all, like I said, and I 332 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: try to sift through it to things that apply to 333 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs and like that, like Dangelo Russell for instance, 334 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: Like you've seen that there's a ceiling to what he 335 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: can accomplish as the comp as the competition goes up, 336 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: So you got to sift through it a little bit. 337 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: But there are certain things that we learned. The habits 338 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: of a basketball team. Those are the habits that you 339 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: rely on when the chips are down, Like if you 340 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: all season long, never ran back on defense. What makes 341 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: you think that when the chips are down, you're suddenly 342 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna start running back on defense. It was part of 343 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: their identity and it manifested on this stage. Lebron James 344 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis weren't gonna suddenly start making jump shots. 345 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: And Lebron in particular, his slumps really drag out for 346 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: a while for whatever reason, I don't have any good 347 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: explanation for it. But no matter what, Lebron James and 348 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis have to go back into the lab this 349 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: summer and fix their jumpers. It's fine. We're not gonna 350 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: talk deep about the Lakers offseason right now. I'm gonna 351 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: save that for after they get eliminated. But but no 352 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: matter what, any personnel oriented things won't matter nearly as 353 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: much as the fact that when they ran into Nikola 354 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: jokicch he was just better. And I believe that Lebron James, 355 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: when he has this jump shot going, can at least 356 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: come close to Nikola Jokic's impact in his twenty first season. Right. 357 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: I believe that Anthony Davis, the one from the bubble, 358 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: can at least come close to Nikola Jokic's impact in 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: the postseason. But without their jump shots, neither of them 360 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: are dependable offensive players. I broke this down in our 361 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: last show, the Game to Game three preview. But like 362 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, it used to be you threw it to 363 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: him on the block and he turned and faced and 364 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: it was over a point per possession. Now it's like 365 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: two thirds of a point per possession. It's a significant 366 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: decline in shot creation. Those two guys have to go 367 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board. But one of the biggest 368 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: lessons that we've learned here is Jokic isn't just better 369 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: than Anthony Davis. He's way better than Anthony Davis. I'm 370 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: not gonna apologize for rain Ad over him to start 371 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: the series, because that's my rule. Just like I wouldn't 372 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: apologize if I ranked Jokic over another player and that 373 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: player outplayed Jokic over the course of a series, I 374 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: would proclaim the other dude after the series is over, right, 375 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way I do it. But 376 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: we definitely learned a lot about that Jamal Murray, he's 377 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: either on a ridiculous, unprecedented heater or he's just a 378 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: lot better than we thought. Maybe he's closer to Devin 379 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Booker than he is to that tier of you know, 380 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: guys who put up numbers that aren't very good, like 381 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: the Dejontay Murray's, the Bradley Beals, the zach Lavines, the 382 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: John Mrits, of all those other guards, of the two 383 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: Guards and one Guards of the league that put up 384 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: numbers but aren't really considered all stars. Like Jamal Murray. 385 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I think he's legitimate. I think this is legitimate. I mean, 386 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: everyone wanted to undercut everything that happened in the Bubble. 387 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was lame from the beginning. It's a 388 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: loser mentality. But Jamal Murray made a ton of shots 389 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: in the bubble. Got hurt in the time since coming 390 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: back from injury, like every other dude who gets hurt, 391 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: has gone through some growing pains right as he's been 392 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: working his way back into rhythm. He he played like 393 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: a bona fide superstar in the series. He destroyed the 394 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Lakers in that first half, just lit them on fire. 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a legitimate star. And that's another big 396 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: part of why the Nuggets are succeeding despite their defensive shortcomings. 397 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: They just have an obnoxious amount of firepower. As always 398 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: is the case, Basketball is a team sport, so don't 399 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: overlook the contributions down the roster. Bruce Brown absolutely punked 400 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: the Angelo Russell in this series, got in his head, 401 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: got him off his game, outshot him from the perimeter, 402 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: dominated the game in the athleticism arias. There was a 403 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: sequence I was watching the game of the Buddy, and 404 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: there was a play where Lebron, I think it was 405 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: either Lebron or Austin, tried to throw a lob to 406 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, and Anthony Davis like missed it over the 407 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: front of the ram and tried to go grab it 408 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: on the other side, and like three Nuggets are in 409 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: there knocking around at the ball, and the Nuggets secure 410 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: the loose ball. Very next possession, Jamal Murray takes like 411 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: a they go down the floor. Jamal takes like a 412 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: mid range jumpshot floater thing that's like ten feet away 413 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: from the rim, kind of bobbles the ball and loses 414 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: it and gets it up on the rim, and Bruce Brown, 415 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: in a thicket of people, just jumps over Austin Reeves 416 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: gets the ball and puts it back in and I 417 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: look over at my buddy, and I'm like these rim confrontations. 418 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Denver's been winning all series long, like loose balls, like 419 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: and and again. This is the thing because the Lakers 420 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: did this to Golden State, where they fatigued them into 421 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: looking like a shell of themselves. The Nuggets physically pulverized 422 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers and wore them down to the point where 423 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: they looked like a shell of themselves. I was so 424 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: impressed by them in this series. But yeah, Bruce Brown 425 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: absolutely destroys the Angelo Russell. Look At how much better 426 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon is than Jared Vanderbilt. Look at Kentavious Colwell 427 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Pope versus the contributions of like Dennis Schroeder and Lonnie Walker, 428 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: like down the roster. This was an outclassing And that's 429 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: what That's how you end up three to zero. I 430 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: used to call game I still call game three the 431 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: buzzsaw game. Right, whenever a good basketball team goes and 432 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: plays in front of their home crowd and is far 433 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: more desperate. It's whenever the home team goes up two oh, 434 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: and you go back in Game three, that's the hardest 435 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: game to win because it's desperate home crowd. Like, there's 436 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: a huge gap in motivation, Uh, like you're gonna get 437 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: a better whistle, all these different things, and they overcame that. 438 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: The only way you do that is if it's down 439 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: the roster, outclassing. Jokic out played Anthony Davis. Jamal Murray 440 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: shot so well that he basically played Lebron James to 441 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: a draw. Right. Austin Reeves was awesome, so is Contavious 442 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: Call a pope, call that a wash. Right, But down 443 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: there it's like Bruce Brown destroys D'angela Russell, Aaron Gordon destroys, 444 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt. Just down the roster, they were better. That's 445 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: how you go up three to zero in a conference finals. 446 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: So again, shout out to the Denver Nuggets, Shout out 447 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: to Nuggets fans. I'm happy for you, guys. I'm looking 448 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: forward to covering this team on their path to what 449 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I think is gonna be their first NBA champion, a 450 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: championship with this corps. Like I said, I'm not gonna 451 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: talk too much about the Lakers until they get eliminated, 452 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: but I do have a lot of thoughts about the 453 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: roster and how they should proceed. But again, I'm not 454 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna get into that tonight. I want tonight to be 455 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: about the Nuggets. So all right, guys, that's all I 456 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: have for tonight. I sincerely appreciate you guys. We're gonna 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow for Game three of the Eastern Conference Finals, 458 00:23:43,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: and I will see you guys. Then the volume