1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Hmmm, welcome to the state of the Lakers post kids 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: shows like you guys read patient through the technical difficulties. Um, 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the this season if the Lakers wouldn't 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: make us sweat a little bit there at the end 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: of the night. But other than the ending, I thought 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: it was one of their more impressive games of the season. 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: What do you think, Roger, Yeah, definitely, I mean that 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: was that was the biggest win so far. I mean, 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Denver I think was nine and one coming in even 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray and to to get this win was great. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm still out off a high off that win. Um, 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: so yeah, that was gray. Seeing a d back. Like 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: I said before, I didn't really care about the win. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to like the win was cherry on top. 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: For me, seeing a d back was the, uh, the 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: most important thing, and we got that. We got full 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: on a d on both ends of the floor. You 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: hit the biggest shot in the game to put them 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: up for So yeah, that was a that was a 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: big time when uh tonight, Yeah, I was. I was, 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the game, I kept waiting for this, 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: you know, a stressful part on account of the fact 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: that they were missing their two primary dribble creators and Denver. 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: I know, Denver doesn't have a ton of defensive talent, 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: but they do defend pretty well, and with there and Gordon, 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: they have a decent amount of athleticism. And it was 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: one of those things where I was kind of just 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: waiting for Denver to try to tighten the screws a 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: little bit, and I knew that when they did that, 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the Lakers would struggle to score just because of the 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: fact that Schroeder and Lebron were oute and that's what 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: ended up happening. But uh, you know, they got that there. 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: There were a couple of wide open threes that they 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: got out of it, one for Caruso, one for a 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: D and then a D one of the jumpers weren't 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: following a D, stopped settling and took a power dribble, 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: got into the lane and took that little floater over 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the top from like eight feet, which has kind of 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: been one of his bread and butter shots throughout his career. 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: And it actually Denver defended it really well. He just 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: made it. And uh, and then you know the that 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: that defensive play at the end is the microcosm of 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: why we get so frustrated rooting for Anthony Davis because 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: like that's always in there. But that's what he's capable 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: of all the time. He is the most freaky uh 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: gifted and and not just with his physical tools, but 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: also with his anticipation in his instincts. He's the best 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: defensive player in the league when he gives a ship 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: and he just can't be bothered all half the time. 50 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: That's what makes him that generational defender, right, the ability 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: to be in the paint and still get out and 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: blocked that shot. I'm I was watching the replay here. 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I think he still had like two feet in the 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: paint while that past was going to composit when he 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: reached out and blocked it. And we saw a lot 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: of that tonight, not blocked on three pointers, but where 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: he like impacted um shots, where he helped in the lane. 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Because the Lakers, they didn't change really their defensive coverage 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: on screen roles, they just a d was a lot 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: better as a help defender. He was getting weak side 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: blocks going out, being able to contest the shooters, and 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: that's what we wanted, right. We spent the whole Yesterday's 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: um kind of Doom and Gloom podcast when you look 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: at it now, but our spaces when you look at 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: it now. But that this is what we expected and 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: that's all I wanted to see from tonight. The win 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: is awesome to get that on top of it, but 68 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: to get a d back looking like this, we get 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: this a d and when we're cooking, we're rolling here. 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: This is um. This is the best that he looked. 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: His jumper was there, he had legs under him. He 72 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: was engaged the whole game. I felt like maybe one 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: or two plays where he kind of made I think 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: he almost got a steel on MPJ got like the 75 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: dunk it was in the fourth quarter. But other than that, 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: he was engaged the whole game, helping and yeah, this 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: this is why Laker fans and us call him the 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: best defending in the league. He hasn't looked like that 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the last few games, but um, tonight was his best 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: so far for sure. Well and Laker Laker fans have 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: had a tendency in the past for good reason, because 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: that's the way fans are, and for the record, all 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: fan bases act this way. The Lakers just happened to 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: have a lot more fans, but Laker fans have had 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: a tendency in the past to kind of bully their 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: players into getting it together, you know, and this is 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the first time that's been directed towards one of their stars. 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: And you know, and and it wasn't just pressure from 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: the fan base, it was what was happening on the 90 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: happening to him on the court. He was getting humiliated. 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: Like it was shown in the scoreboard. The Lakers. I 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: shared some numbers today. I just dove into the lineup data. 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: The Lakers were the second best defense in all of 94 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: basketball when a D was out for thirty games. Then 95 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: when he came back, and you know, all of the 96 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: minutes that a D was on the court, they were 97 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: giving up like a hundred and twenty points per one 98 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: hundred possession, some crazy number like that. And then in 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the hundred and ten or so minutes without a D 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: they were still only giving up a hundred and three 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: points per one hundre possessions. So their defense was consistent 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: through the return of a D except for when he 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: was on the floor. He D was being humiliated for 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: his lack of effort. And he finally got sick of 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: getting humiliated, and he responded and I think we all 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: kind of saw this coming. Like no one, just no 107 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: competitor who has this much success in life, like a 108 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: D is a national champion in college and an NBA champion, Like, 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: no one's just gonna sit there and let himself continually 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: be humiliated. Eventually, something's gonna kind of rise up inside 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: of them and they're just gonna fight back. And we 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: saw a D fight back tonight, and like he is 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: the defensive ceiling razor. That last play is a great 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: example of what happens when you're an elite defense but 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: you're going against an elite offense. There's a breakdown because 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: Yokich is gonna cause breakdowns because of how good he is. 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: And Denver gets a wide open look like you said, 118 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: a D s got both feet in the paint. You're 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: watching that on your couch, like, oh, and he blocked 120 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: that shot like he is the ceiling razor. Because even 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the best defenses will eventually have openings in a D 122 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: is capable of shutting even those openings, and that's what 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: makes them so scary. Yeah, and that's definitely, uh, what 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: we what we asked for, right, Like that's what this 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: team needed. Every everything else we can talk about we 126 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: talked about last night all like the ancillary pieces, like 127 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna get into Andre Drummond, but we 128 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: couldn't even start with that until Anthony Davis got right 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: and and it seems he got right. Um, and they 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: got the big win tonight. If they can beat the 131 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Clippers somehow on Thursday, hopefully Lebron returns, then um, it 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: will be a really nice pickup for this team. Um, 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: they needed to win like this right Like you could 134 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: tell with all the quotes that were coming out that 135 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: uh that the team was kind of down for right now, 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: but it looked like they took this game serious. Um, 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: So that was that was the most important thing, uh 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: in my in my like in my notes here, Um, 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I was I really wanted to see what they did 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: on Yoki, right Like, I thought that was gonna be 141 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: big tonight. And I thought they approached it kind of 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: like a playoff game. I mean looking at yoki Is 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: shot shot chart here, and he missed a bunch of 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: like you know, like those shots that are in the 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: paint not at the rim. Um I'm seeing here he 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: missed like eight, eight or nine shots right there. And 147 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: I think if you can make him take those like 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: those two pointers that are contested that aren't like at 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the rim, I think you've kind of won against him. 150 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: And he made some of those, right, uh those uh, 151 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: those fade away like mid range shots that you can't 152 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: do anything with if he hits those, it's those. But 153 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: that's where I thought Drummond was actually okay tonight. Like again, 154 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a lot later, but I thought 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: he did his job, and then they kind of switched 156 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of his actions as well. But what you 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: see with with because I thought they did a fantastic 158 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: job on him. So I figured coming into the game 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that a D would entirely avoid the assignment. That seems 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: to be part of his m O right now is 161 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to take the assignment unless he 162 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: absolutely asked to, like in the biggest moments, like that's 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: the only time you'll consider it, because there I noticed, 164 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: even when they went to the bench in the second 165 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: quarter or at the end of the first quarter. I 166 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: believe actually Montres Harrold came in who has a history 167 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: of kind of having issues with Yokich, and a D 168 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't take Yokich then either, he put he ended up 169 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: taking I think dojer or one of the wings and 170 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: and left Montrez on Yoki. So it's clear that he 171 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with him. So it comes down 172 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: to what are you gonna do with Drummond and and 173 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Gasol on him, and both of them I thought did 174 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: a really good job. I thought Gessol did a little 175 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: bit better because he avoided some of the uh more 176 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: troublesome fouls. The that play where Gasol fouled him at 177 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: the end of the game and they gave him the 178 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: two free throws actually kind of was trying to make 179 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: a smart play there. He noticed that he gave up middle. 180 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: He thought the defense was compromised. He's like, I'm just 181 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: gonna grab him so they'll just have a side out 182 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: of bounds. But other than that play, which was in 183 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: retrospect the mistake, Gasol did a really nice job at 184 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: defending without fouling and making him make shots over the top. 185 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Drummond had a couple of mistakes. I thought he lost 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: him on a couple of boxouts paid where he primarily 187 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: lost Yoki, and then he had that play where you 188 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: know yokis you didn't have a good jump shooting night, 189 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: he got over zealous defending him at that at that 190 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: pull up a little eighteen footer that he shot and 191 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: sent him to the line there too. So I mean, 192 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: the thing is is like those little mistakes, you want 193 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: to see him both cut out. But for the most part, 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: they did their job. They threw bodies at at Yokich 195 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: and made him work. And I I said this in 196 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: the tweet earlier, it's always a team effort, like the 197 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: What helps um, what helps those guys do better on 198 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: an island with Yokich is having guys like k C. 199 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: P and Wesley Matthews who are so good at like 200 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: stunting and giving the impression of taking away space while 201 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: at the same time being able to recover and get 202 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: out two shooters because they didn't really have to send 203 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: hard doubles at Yoki, which takes away his passing ability. 204 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: That that that's where he's at his absolute best, is 205 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: when he breaks you down to the point where you 206 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: have to send doubles and then he will pick you apart. 207 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: But the Lakers just kind of make you feel like 208 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: you're in a crowd, but technically it's still one on 209 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: one matchup, and and it takes away a lot of 210 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: those reads and it was just all in all, just 211 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: an unbelievable defensive performance from the Lakers. Just another one 212 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: of those Frank Vogel masterpieces, Yeah, for sure. And and 213 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: just looking at here, I think Denver went six for 214 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: twenty four from three, and I thought a lot of 215 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: those were actually pretty bad. Looks like, this is a 216 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: pretty good three point shooting team, right, that's what Yogi's jaws. 217 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: He kind of creates shots for them, and they ended 218 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: a really nice job closing out. I guess we can 219 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: like talk about Lakers Twitter's hero here Marcosol, which it 220 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: feels like it feels like Lakers Twitter was not loud enough, right, 221 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: And uh, Vogel is like reading the timeline because Gasow 222 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: got his minutes and he absolutely killed Um he he 223 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: kind of allows a d to be the five without 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: actually giving up any size, right, Like that's kind of 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: what helps here. We saw him come in the pace, 226 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: the pace just like immediately picked up Carusoe KCP. They're 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: starting to fly down. Um he had like a beautiful 228 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: full core pass. I think, um, I forgot to forgot. 229 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: I think it was the West Matthews. Um he got 230 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: a beautiful full core pass to him and the ball 231 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: just moves around. He knows where the play to pass 232 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to eight can play in the post with a lot 233 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: more space, right. I think that's where it was really 234 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: key he got. He got good looks from there, so yeah, 235 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: like it was really great scene Mark, and then he 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: hit his threes, like I think I think he had three. 237 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I think he had like three threes tonight. And he 238 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: really helps a guy like th HD. Like in my 239 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: notes here, I put like th HT and Mark because 240 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: that THD is a real creative driver, right, and he 241 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: needs a release valve, like I called Mark a release valve, 242 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: and he gives them that release vell Like THHD can 243 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: go in, jump in the air, spin and then find 244 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Mark in like the corner or something, because he's just 245 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: creating as he goes. And I thought they helped the bench. 246 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: They went away from that Treads and marquis Um line 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: up in the second half, which I thought really hurt 248 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: them in the first half. They played Mark in those minutes, 249 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, like I guess Lakerstore needs to be even louder. 250 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna start getting more minutes. I feel 251 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: like Vogel really didn't want to go back to him 252 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: in the in the fourth quarter, but that lead was 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: just slipping so quickly that you had to get the 254 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: one any any through in uh Gasol in the in 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the end there. But I thought that was the main 256 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: keys to me tonight. It was eight going off coming 257 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: back and then Marcosol looking like he's ready for um, 258 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: he's ready for the playoffs. Yeah. And you know, one 259 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: of the cool things about Twitter, one of the cool 260 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: things about you know, modern social media is like you 261 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: get a lot more really smart people involved with this stuff, 262 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: and there were there were just a lot of really 263 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: smart Lakers people from all over the world really that 264 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: we're like, we're looking at data because we all have 265 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: access to the data, we all have access to the film, 266 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: and we're watching it and it's like we we all 267 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: knew we were right. You know that that's the reality 268 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: of it, because like we were all watching the same 269 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: thing and we were all looking at the same data. 270 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: That's what was so refreshing about hearing Kyle Kuzma come 271 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: out in the post game yesterday and be like, you know, 272 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: this is what we think we should do, because it 273 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: goes to show you that, you know, we y'all were 274 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, thinking the same way that a professional basketball 275 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: player might think when they look at this, or you 276 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: know Frank Vogel saying, well, you know, we're gonna try 277 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: to make it happen, and then he did so in 278 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: practice today by playing the Salmore as far as in 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: theory on the court though, like you know, it's a 280 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: couple of things. You said, it makes a D like 281 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: he's the five, but the Lakers are still big. Well, 282 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is is it makes a 283 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: D to five on offense. That's the important part, because 284 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: a D would love to be the five on offense. 285 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: He just doesn't want to guard big guys. That's literally 286 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: all it is. A D is shirking the responsibility of 287 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: dealing with the physicality of playing the five position on defense. 288 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: That's all it is. He can sugarcoat it and all 289 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: these different things, but that's what it is. And the 290 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: truth is is he willingly is making What he doesn't 291 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: understand is that by taking that responsibility it actually takes 292 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: away a lot of what he has to deal with 293 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: on the offensive end, because instead he may not be 294 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: wearing himself down as much on the defensive end, but 295 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: on the offensive end, he's playing in a crowd more, 296 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: he's dealing with more bumps and bruises as he's going 297 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: to the basket. So it's like he's kind of signing 298 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: himself up for just a different version of the same problem. Uh. 299 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: And by playing Marcusol, it kind of puts him in 300 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: that perfect sweet spot where on offense he's effectively playing 301 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, a four out one in attack where he 302 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: has the space to attack, but then on defense Marcusol 303 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: is taking all of that beating for him. That's why 304 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: the Marcusol fit was such an obvious and clear fit 305 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: to make this work. And then the other big thing 306 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: that you know, the obvious stuff with his shooting in 307 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: the way of impact it's facing. But the other big thing, 308 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: and you mentioned this was his outlet passing. And it 309 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: wasn't just it wasn't just a long bomb. It's the 310 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: starting to break quicker stuff. Like it's the instead of 311 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: getting getting the rebound and doing what Drummond does where 312 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: he like chins it and like spins around and like 313 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: maybe he'll take two dribbles himself and then he'll find 314 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: a guard and he'll give it to him. Like Marcusol 315 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: like starts to break actively before he even has the ball, 316 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: Like he's getting the rebound and he's looking over and 317 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: he sees a guard streaking and he'll catch it and 318 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: throw a quick tap pass forward and something like that 319 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: gains you an advantage and gets you playing in semi 320 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: transition where the defense isn't set, rather than going against 321 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: the set defense, which has been a weakness for the 322 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Lakers literally for two years. So like having Marcus all 323 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: out there impacts the game on so many levels, And 324 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: just like with Alex Crusoe last year, you're going to 325 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: continue to see it in the box score. When they 326 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: play Marcusol, they're going to have success, and it's gonna 327 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: show in the in them winning the minutes that he plays, 328 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and when they continue to play a big, bruising, you know, brainless, 329 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: spaceless five, they're gonna struggle. I think I think that's 330 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: just going to continue to be the theme. Yeah, I 331 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: think that's a little a little rough, Like we want 332 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: to we want to blame a lot of it on 333 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: drum and let people were all happy because Drummond got 334 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: his fifth foul. Like I thought, Laker Twitter to go 335 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: through a full on celebration because Drummond picked up his 336 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: fifth foul, and like he struggles that the post ups 337 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: are still a lot, Like I just I still don't 338 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: understand why you over throwing into him in the post 339 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: as much, especially with with Lebron not in the game, 340 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and Caruso had a lot of turnovers with him to 341 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: him tonight too as well. Right, they're just not on 342 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: the same page where he should be cutting um and 343 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: all that. But again, like they're both on the team, 344 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: like a soul and Drummond are both on the team, 345 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: And like it's funny seeing JaVale McGee on the other side, 346 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: because I see Drummond as like Javal roll. You know, 347 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: you saw Javal like you saw the good and bad 348 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: of him tonight, like you saw people to roll. But 349 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: like he does these weird things where he tries to 350 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: go bhind the back past is and weird floaters that 351 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: some of them went in, and I see Drummond in 352 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: that same kind of light. Man, it'll be it'll be situational. 353 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: It's very clear they want to get him minutes in 354 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the regular season. Um, but maybe that was agreed agreed 355 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: upon before he signed here or something, but that that 356 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: seems like the clear thing that's going on and and 357 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and Mark obviously, I mean anyone who's watching you know 358 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: these games, we're watching these games, you could tell that 359 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Mark is having just a huge impact. And I think 360 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: he'll play a lot when when these games matter, especially 361 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: in against Denver, who I think this is his second 362 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: really good game against the Nuggets, especially defensively. Right. I 363 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: think he turned that last game round as well tonight, Yogi, 364 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: he had a few good baskets on him, but you 365 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: could tell, like he bothers him. Mark is really smart. Um, 366 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like trick him. He knows, he knows 367 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: all the all the tricks up the sleeve. He's a 368 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: former Defensive Player of the Year, all the all the 369 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: accolades and stuff like that. So he's a really awesome 370 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: dude to just have on there where your kids. Is 371 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to work for his shots, and that's all 372 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: you can ask for. Um, I think you could twin 373 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: like eleven for twenty five or something tonight, and and 374 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: if you make him do that, you're gonna win the game. 375 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: So they held Denver to under twenty five points in 376 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: every quarter. And this is a good offensive team even 377 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray. Like this is a team that's that 378 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: can put up points. So I thought that was great 379 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: and Mark was a huge part of this win. What 380 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: did Michael Porter Jr. Finished with? What was like seventeen? 381 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it might have been nineteen. He had nineteen Yeah, okay, yeah, 382 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: So what I thought was interesting too is like as 383 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: like Michael Porter Jr. In his last ten games has 384 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: been averaging like twenty six. Yeah, And I thought KCP 385 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: and Kyle pos both didn't really nice job throughout the 386 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: game just staying in his airspace and making him feel uncomfortable. Look, 387 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: when he's so tall that when he gets up into 388 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: his shot, like, there's really not a whole lot you 389 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: can do. But what you need to do is get 390 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: him to second guess his shot enough that he just 391 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: takes fewer attempts. And I thought I thought the Lakers 392 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: did a good job of that. Like his his last 393 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: three that he took, which was late, is one at 394 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: the top of the key that he ended up missing. 395 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: Long h he was in all sorts of crowd, there 396 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: was a body on either side of him. There's no 397 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: way that when he's going up he's not thinking about 398 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: all that congestion and the way that it affects a shot, 399 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: and again, just the laker. You know, you and I 400 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: both have have beat the drum for two years. But 401 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: I think they're the best defense, one of the best 402 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: defenses ever when they when they try. But I have 403 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: all the Frank is an excellent at scheming, They're strong 404 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: at every position. H they're they're good at containing at 405 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the point of attack, and that they're good in their rotations, 406 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: and they're good at the rim, and they have big 407 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: wings now and it's just they're They're an unbelievable defensive team. 408 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I was a little too hard on 409 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Drummond Um. The one thing I'll say about Drummond is 410 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: if they're gonna play him, I just wish strategically they 411 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: would use him in a way that plays to his 412 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: strengths offensively. And what I mean by that is like, look, 413 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: he's not a great post up player, and if you 414 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: are going to post up with either Lebron or a 415 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: d he's not serving any purpose because he can't catch 416 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: lobs and at least not as well as he needs to, 417 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: and he's just not a good enough finisher out of 418 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: the dunker spot. There was a actually a play today 419 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: if you remember I think Caruso ended up throwing a 420 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: lob to him, you know, went over the top and 421 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: went out of bounce like Javao would catch that for instance. 422 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: You know, like he's just he's just not great as 423 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: like a straight up vertical jumper. But if you use 424 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: him as a ball screener, like if Lebron's on the 425 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: floor with Drummond or Shrouders on the floor with Drummond, 426 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: he put everybody else at the three point line and 427 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: use him as a screener, he has real value there 428 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: because he's a big body. It gets the ball handler 429 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: and advantage and makes the defense commit one way or 430 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: the other. Then he can bring some value there and 431 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: get get him rumbling to the rim as opposed to 432 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: trying to go straight up over Yokis or whoever it is, 433 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: where he just struggles to finish. And I do think 434 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: that just because Gasol is the obvious sticks to a 435 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of their problems, doesn't mean Drummond can't play. It 436 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: just means, you know, you need to adjust on the 437 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: fly here and use him in a way that makes sense. 438 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe you stagger those two guys 439 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: instead of instead of staggering with Trez and maybe he's 440 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: the odd man out. I don't know. I think these 441 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: are tough questions, but it's very clear that Marcusol has 442 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: to be one of the guys who is in the rotation. Yeah, 443 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: so the thing you're talking about, what's tough about that 444 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: is making Drummond the screener is then you turn a 445 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: D pretty much into a spot up shooter, right, like 446 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: he'll just go stand in the corner. And they did 447 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: that a few times today. The problem is Denver, they 448 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: just cheated off the shooters. I think Alex trus hit 449 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: a few, but they left him open time times. And 450 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: the problem with Drummond is like he's not a good 451 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: finisher in the dunker spot. He's not a lop threat, 452 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: and like he has a tough time catching like passes 453 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: that if they're not thrown for from like Lebron right, 454 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Like Crusoe's a good pastor. He's not going to pass 455 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: you open, but like if you're open, he can find you. 456 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: But again, he's not a great pastor. Neither is a D. 457 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: I think they ran like a screen roll with a 458 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: D as a ball handler, right with Drummond as a screener. 459 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: And I thought it was really nice a d shortness, 460 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Dribble had the big on his back like he was 461 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: a guard and then through this like nice little pass 462 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: in the painted Drummond right in his hands. But it's 463 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: just a little too hot. And again ad is not 464 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: like an awesome pastor like Lebron. Maybe that gets through 465 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: with Lebron, I don't know, And it goes right through 466 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Drummond's hands and Denver goes the other way. So that's 467 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: where like the struggle is finding like an offensive role 468 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: for him, and it looks like the only real role 469 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: for him where he can get shots up is through 470 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: post uffs, right, even if they're super inefficient, they just 471 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: they need him to get looks. And when a guy 472 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: is just in the you know, right near the rim, 473 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: has a guy sealed, like, it's tough for a guard 474 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: to like look that away, right, Cruiser has to throw 475 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: that like if a guy has got a new pin. 476 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Drummond just does not hit them at a rate that 477 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: you would believe a big ship. But again again I 478 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: don't like piling on him because I feel like he 479 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: does do things that add to the game. Um he uh, 480 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: he defends at least at a normal good enough level. 481 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: Where he can stay on the floor. It's just his 482 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: offensive to struggle, especially with no Lebron and the shooting 483 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: is inconsistence of Denver can kind of play off him. 484 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: So I guess that's a lot of drum and talk. 485 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, again, like I just feel like he's ancillary still, 486 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: like to these title hopes, and like what we need 487 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: to be The key things are eight needs to be 488 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: himself and we got that tonight and Mark showed they 489 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: still big time competitor, and those are things that really 490 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: matter tonight looking rather than looking at this through like wow, 491 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Drummond really closed again or was about to close, because 492 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I think that's just what's gonna happen right now. And 493 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: I really don't think those things will matter once we 494 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: get into the into the real games. You're right, and 495 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: and and for the record, I think I think there's 496 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: some line up moves from Frank that could help some 497 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: of these problems. Like, for instance, I used to complain 498 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: all the time about Rondo being a starter, if you remember, 499 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: because I felt, yeah, I felt like what he did 500 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: with Lebron was very redundant and inevitably the Lakers would 501 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: get off the slow starts because you have these two, like, 502 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, pound the ball type playmakers, and neither of 503 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: them were well. Rondo in particular wasn't very good off 504 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: the ball, and it would cause problems for them. Well, 505 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: then they put Rondo on the bench, and then that 506 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: actually ended up working for them in the postseason when 507 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: they kind of staggered Rondo and Lebron. And that's the 508 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: thing is you're right, like, ideally you don't want to 509 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: turn a D into a spot up shooter. That's why 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: the drum and minutes makes so much more sense coming 511 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: off the bench and playing with Lebron. But I agree 512 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: with you, these are all ancillary things and the most 513 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: important thing, uh, you know I said last night, if 514 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: you guys remember, I said I just need to see 515 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: it once. And what I was referring to it are 516 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: the three things that I think are abundantly important to 517 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: this team winning the title, and that's a D looking 518 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: like a D, Lebron looking like Lebron, and the defense 519 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: looking like the Laker defense. And tonight we saw two 520 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: of those three things, so we can be relatively comfortable 521 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: knowing that there's still a dominant basketball player inside of 522 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: a D. This season, I think we all knew, you know, 523 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: over the course of his contract that he would be 524 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: a d again, but there was concerned with his health 525 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: and with his frame of mind that maybe he wasn't 526 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: there this year. Well he clearly is because tonight tonight 527 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: he made some world changing blaze and he he actually 528 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: like straight up just outplayed the m v P like 529 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Nikol Yoka is the MVP, Anthony Davis was better than 530 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: him tonight. So that was was obviously very uh you know, 531 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: uh comforting for like a fantasy. And then you know, 532 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: the defense was they took an extremely gifted offensive group 533 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: with arguably one of the top two or three offensive 534 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: players in basketball this year, and they basically shut him 535 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: down tonight and uh you know, held him well under 536 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: a hundred points and in one with by getting stops 537 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: down the stretch of the game. And so those two 538 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: things are very comforting. And now basically just comes down 539 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: to the Lebron stuff, which I was wrong about last 540 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: night because I thought that he was I thought that 541 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: he was going to play tonight, because I thought he 542 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: just exited the game early essentially just to get ready 543 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: for tonight. And clearly there he is dealing with some 544 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: linger in pain. Is that something you're concerned about at all, 545 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: not really from like the doctors that I follow, and 546 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: obviously Lakers Twitter is a nice, big space. There's a 547 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: lot of people and a lot of professions. There are a 548 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of really good doctors. And they say that, like, 549 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I think he was a little bit sore, right, I 550 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: think that was the Shams report, And they say that's 551 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: pretty normal after a highly ankle sprain like this. So, um, 552 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm nervous about it. I mean, Lebron 553 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: had a quote that he doesn't feel like he'll ever 554 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: be a d percent again. I think in his career 555 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: he had some quote like that which is a little bit, 556 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit dooming, especially with the 557 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: way the others were playing. But I'm not worried about him, 558 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like Lebron's gonna be there. Um, he's 559 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: like the least of my worries on this team, to 560 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: be honest, Like, I think I think he'll be there 561 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: when it when it matters that he just needs to 562 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: get some time with this team. And and that's where 563 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: I want to see on Thursday. Like I'm not I'm 564 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: not sure if they'll beat the Clippers. Clippers they're playing 565 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: at a at a pretty awesome level well right now. 566 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: But I just want to see that same effort in 567 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: intensity as when Lebron wasn't here, you know, tonight, all 568 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: those guards defending the same way. Um, I want to 569 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: see a D being a D. And again, I'm not 570 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: talking about win and loss, just him impacting the game 571 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: like he did tonight. He had a big time impact 572 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: on it when he was on the floor. And I 573 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: want to see that same thing on Thursday with with 574 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: hopefully with Lebron um coming back. And maybe Lebron might 575 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: not be yet, and that's expectable. That's expected. Um, there's 576 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: still like seven games left. Um, I trust that he 577 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: knows how to ramp up. The guy that's been a 578 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: multiple finals multiple times in a row. Uh. If anybody 579 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: knows how to wrap himself up for a playoff, playoff run, 580 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: he knows it. So I trust him more than anything 581 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: else on this team. Everything else needs to work right, 582 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure Lebron will be there to control things when 583 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: it when it matters. Yeah, we're on the same page. 584 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I I'm not necessarily concerned about it either. Are one 585 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: of the nice things too with Lebron, Like if you 586 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: had to, if you had to pick between getting, you know, 587 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: for this season, having a D AT or Lebron AT 588 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: or Lebron A and a d AT physically, I would 589 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: take a D being more healthy because he we actually 590 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: need his physical tools so much more for this team 591 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: to reach its ceiling because of what he does defensively. 592 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: But Lebron at of what he is physically, is still 593 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: so capable of impacting the game. And for the record, 594 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: we saw that in these last two games the Lakers, 595 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: we had an extremely good defense and we're positive on 596 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: the scoreboard in Lebron's first two outings even though the 597 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Lakers defended like dogshit overall over those two games, when 598 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: Lebron was on the floor, things looked good because he 599 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: just impacts the game really well on the defensive end 600 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: as a communicator and as a back line defender, and 601 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: then on the offensive end just making decisions, just making 602 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: basketball decisions every time he goes down the floor. And 603 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: so like, I'm less worried about him getting to his 604 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: peak physical form than I am about a D. And 605 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: so that's what makes it so comforting to see a 606 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: D make plays the way that he did tonight. As 607 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: far as like you know, Lebron's progression here, you know, 608 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: uh what the what's most important is to understand what 609 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: this particular injury. It appears to be mostly about pain tolerance. 610 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: So like right now in this regular season, he can 611 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit more you know, uptight about it 612 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: and and take rest when he needs it. But at 613 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like when they when they 614 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: get into when they get into the postseason, Lebron is 615 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna be able to you know, do whatever he needs 616 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: to do to deal with the pain and play through it. 617 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: And the other wrinkle on this UM that makes it 618 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: a little bit less concerning for him to take a 619 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: night like tonight off is the standings are entirely in flux. 620 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Low Post today um and 621 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Zach low is reading off basically the statistical percentages of 622 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: teams landing and specific needs. It's all over the place, 623 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: like Utah is considered a sixty forty favor to get 624 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the one seed, which is just a little better than 625 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: a coin flip. Denver and the Clippers are straight up 626 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: in a fifty fifty coin flip in terms of probabilities 627 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: as to where they'll end up. And then literally coming 628 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: into tonight Portland's Dallas in the Lakers were all pied, 629 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: and you know, it's so like the truth of the 630 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: matter was is like you could have you you could 631 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: theoretically have approach to the end of the season in 632 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: a super aggressive manner and been rewarded with the Clippers 633 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: for your trouble. So I do think that his approach 634 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: of prioritizing his physical health makes the most sense. However, 635 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: I do I I do think that it's a little 636 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: bit less important for him than it is for a 637 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: d If that makes sense, Yeah, for sure. And again, 638 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: like I wasn't standing watching at all today because to me, 639 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: it was no point until we got you know, eighty 640 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: to look like this and the team looked like they 641 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: cared about any of these games because looking at the standings, 642 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: really didn't matter if the Lakers was gonna keep dropping 643 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: games m due to no engagement. So that was a 644 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: good thing. Now I can go back to kind of 645 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: looking at the standings again, which I think we're tied 646 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: with Dallas still, so um, we have a tough skin tonight. Okay, 647 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: Portland lost all right, So yeah, that that's a that's 648 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: a good thing, I guess We'll try to stay out 649 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: of that playing game, I guess, but man, we have 650 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I think three back to backs left um to close 651 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: the close of the season with teams like Phoenix, the 652 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: Clippers coming up, the Knicks. Um, all all tough games. 653 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: But another guy I wanted to touch on tonight, Crusoe 654 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I thought had his best game in a while, right. 655 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: I think I think he was hurt, but um, yeah, 656 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: he had like a really nice It looked like playoff 657 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Caruso to me. That's why I kind of put in 658 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: my notes here. Um, he looked back to his old self. 659 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: I think he was like a plus four tonight, but 660 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: the whole team was kind of in the low plus 661 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: minuses as well. But I thought he just looked awesome 662 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: being able to deflect. He was awesome on Yokich as well, 663 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: especially when they were helping and recovering. He had he 664 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: had timely threes, missed a few down the stretch, but 665 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: he cut, he dove on the floor, He just he 666 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: did everything that he does. And I thought that was 667 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: an underrated part that that wasn't really talked about. Was 668 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: they missed him and his energy. Um, that's really that 669 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: really helps them. And uh, I thought he was a 670 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: big part of the win too. I don't think they 671 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: went tonight without him. Denver has a guy like him 672 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: on on their side and Composo it really gets under 673 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: guy's skin. And I thought he matched that, he matched 674 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: the energy on our side. What do you see from 675 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Caruso tonight, Well, I mean you said it all man, 676 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: he was, He was awesome. He's their best point of 677 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: attack defender in my opinion. I actually think he's a 678 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: little bit better than Dennis too, because he's just a 679 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit bigger um and you could tell when he 680 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: would come off the floor how much easier you know, 681 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: Composo was getting to his spots or Austin Rivers was 682 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: getting to his spots, just because there was a little 683 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: bit less resistance at the point of attack, and you know, 684 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: and then offensively, like I I have reached I was 685 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: actually thinking about this. I think it was in the 686 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: third quarter. I have reached a point with Caruso where 687 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: when he's shooting, I feel like it's going in from three, 688 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about because last year you 689 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: and never in a million years would have felt that way. 690 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: But his form, his form, his is solid and he 691 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: pretty consistently knocks him down, and yeah, he missed a 692 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: couple at the end of the game, but kind of 693 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers just in general as a jump shooting team 694 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: went cold at the end of that game, which is 695 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: something that can happen and it tends to percolate through 696 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: the whole roster. But I mean, he with him being 697 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: able to knock down those shots that transforms everything. He's 698 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: a little bit like he had he struggle a little 699 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: bit and pick and roll there at the end, uh, 700 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: when they kind of tried to run him with the 701 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: closing group a couple of times where he got into 702 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: no man's land there at the free throw line, and 703 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: then he kept picking up his dribble when he was 704 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: trying to give the ball to a D which then 705 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: they would just do like crazy ball pressure and denial 706 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: on a D and he kind of got caught, you know, 707 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: in in a tough spot. But those are those are 708 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: like really nitpicky things and that's not something he's going 709 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: to have to do when the time comes. But I mean, 710 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: he's the lifeblood of that team. And when when they 711 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: are playing like this, when they're playing this, well, uh, 712 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: he usually starts with him and It's the best compliment 713 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: I can I can pay him is that he's kind 714 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: of like the hard the soul of their defense. One 715 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: other guy I wanted to compliment was k C. P 716 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Um just he's such a winner, man, it's ridiculous. Like 717 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: he had two plays at the end of that game 718 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: that were completely ridiculous. There was one where him and 719 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: Drummond got caught in the pick and roll and I 720 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: think I think k CP was on Michael Porter Jr. 721 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: And they switched it and and Yokis got the ball 722 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: at the top of the key against KCP and actively 723 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: on the couch. I'm like, oh, like, why did they 724 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: switch that? He should have fought over the top. Yokis 725 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: is gonna barrel to the rim on him. Yokis does 726 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: his classic you know, you know, kind of ripped through 727 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: over the top and the rolling down the rim looking 728 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: clumsy like crazy. But he's got a step on KCP 729 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: and he just stripped it right off. It was leg 730 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: out of bounce. It was a huge play. Uh. And 731 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: then there was another one where someone took a shot 732 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was Michael Porter Jr. 733 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it was the one that he missed from 734 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: the top of the key, and KCP was not in like, 735 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, because there's all these different elements to rebounding, right, like, 736 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: you gotta be the guy. There's gotta be some boxes 737 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: out with people around the rim, and then there's gotta 738 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: be people who crash, and and KCP was guarding someone 739 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: in the opposite corner. His man wasn't crashing, and KCP 740 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: just went flying through the lane, took off off one leg, 741 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: rose way up over everybody, and ended up tapping the 742 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: ball out to Marcusol on a play that could have 743 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: ended in an offensive rebound for Yoki. And I'm literally 744 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm like, this dude just like he feels 745 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: the moment and he just knows how he can make 746 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: these little plays that can swing the outcome of a game. 747 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: And both of those plays I just mentioned could have 748 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: ended up saving the Lakers two points in a game 749 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: that they won that was just barely a two possession game. 750 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: So I mean that that's that's how I love I 751 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: love I love room for KCP man, Like he's come 752 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: so far from where he was, you know, two years ago, 753 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: and it's just like just a bona fide winning player. Yeah, 754 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: he was a big part of I thought the defense 755 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: on MPG as well. They had him up, I think 756 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: on him at the end of the game too, And 757 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: I wrote here MPJ had zero assists tonight that that 758 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: was a big part of it. They really made it 759 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: tough for him. Um, they got on on him and 760 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: he had a tough time getting space at all. KCB 761 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: put up seven rebounds as well, hit two threes. I 762 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: thought they were preally timely threes as well, and they 763 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: needed shooting. Like I think he went over five against 764 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: the Kings, but you know, he's four for four for 765 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: for nine and these last two against Toronto and Denver, 766 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: and he's proved that he hit shots like when it matters, right, 767 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: Like he's proven that he's gonna hit him at least 768 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Last year. Um, he had a little 769 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: cold streak in the season, but he looks like he's 770 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: finding his way back. So yeah, like it's nice to 771 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: have him back. Um, it's gonna be tough now because, 772 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: like I think the big news is that we're not 773 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a Dennis Shrewd to the playoffs start, right, 774 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: So like that's another ten four teen games where the 775 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Lakers won't have the starting backcourt, and I don't think 776 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: they really lose anything because they get Crusoe more minutes 777 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: I guess, so that kind of other than the th 778 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: h T minutes. But they get a Crusoe and KCP 779 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: in there, and that's still a really really elite backcourt defense. Um, 780 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: they played really hard, especially when they got it going. Um, 781 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: they can really shut down opposing guards. And uh, Denver 782 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: is a really good team where like once they passed 783 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: the Yokers, they do a lot of really nice cutting 784 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: actions and a lot of split huts and and I 785 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: thought the switching and the guards playing well, it was 786 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: a big part of them. Mean p J Josie got 787 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: hurt I think in the middle of that, but he's 788 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: been playing lights out for them and they did a 789 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: nice job shutting him down. So yeah, I agree. KCP 790 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: was great. Hey man, Caruso were a big part of this. Um, 791 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: they need their guards playing like this, because it was 792 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: so obvious that they weren't right, Like it just jumped 793 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: off the screen. Since a D came back, like the 794 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: all everyone's intensity was pretty much at like a preseason level, 795 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: and it it seemed back to like really intense ready 796 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: for the playoffs tonight, so hopefully they picked that up 797 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: going forward on on Thursday. But it was good to 798 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: see KCP and Crusoe both like shut and be able 799 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: to shut down this other team, along with a D 800 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: being back to himself engaged on every possession. And I 801 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: want to know, like, what do you think, because they 802 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: ran it a lot through th HD tonight right now, 803 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's ready. Um, I think you 804 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: tweeted about this. If he's going to play in the 805 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: playoffs right like, I think it's gonna be really tough. 806 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: Like he he's not ready for full ball control. He 807 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: had a lot of turnovers against Compozo. He really got 808 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: into him. Um, you had that weird layoup at the 809 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: end that kind of won the game too. I thought 810 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: that was kind of crazy. Oh man, that was one 811 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: of the craziest plays I've ever seen. Like it was 812 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: literally like about to become a catastrophe if th D, 813 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: Like if the Lakers had somehow lost that game and 814 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: their last offensive possession was th h T shooting literally 815 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: like literally a backwards the hook shot, like it would 816 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: have been unbelievable. But I mean to your to your 817 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: original point, like you had mentioned, like you know the 818 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: Lakers will be fine without Dennis. I agree. I I 819 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 1: view Dennis as more of like a ceiling razor. Uh Now, 820 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: without Lebron and Dennis, it becomes a huge problem when 821 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: they lack all of that offensive creation. But we know 822 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers can win with Lebron and a D and 823 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: various defensive role players around them. We know they can 824 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: do that. But Dennis Shooter, to me, he's just ceiling 825 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: razor for specific matchups. When when you're playing a switching 826 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: defense in a late round playoff series and you just 827 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: need someone to make a play, He's that guy that 828 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: will be able to make offensive plays that they didn't 829 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: have in the past, and so I think he does 830 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: bring a great deal of value there um. But in 831 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: the meantime, they can defend extremely well down with all 832 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: their positions with without Shrewder, they have enough depth to 833 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: cover for that. It's just an out without Lebron, they 834 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: just have to rely on a lot of Crusoe and 835 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: th h T and pick and roll, which is just 836 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: they're just not They're they're what you would call below 837 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 1: average NBA pick and roll playmakers. And THD is gonna 838 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: have his nights where and he's gonna have his moments, 839 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: but but he's not reliable. Is the word that Darius 840 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Soriano used that I thought was apt for this specific description. 841 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: And you know, as far as like you had mentioned 842 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: earlier that he thrives with gassoul And I don't think 843 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: I think that's as simple as literally just what happens 844 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: with his uh spacing. I think just like any other 845 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: basketball player who prefers to put his head down and 846 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: go to the rim um, he does better when there's 847 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: space to operate and when you put him out there 848 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: with because all he has space to operate in a 849 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: way that he doesn't have when you put him out 850 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: there with, you know, a lack of shooting. And so 851 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: I think I think that I think it really is 852 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: that that's simple on that front. Yeah, and especially right now, 853 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: Like that's why I think most fans wanted Marcus all right, 854 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: because that's another playmaker like you can have out there. 855 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: Like the no spacing kind of compounds the issue of 856 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: not enough ball handlers and a d really has to 857 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: create a lot of the offense through the post, and 858 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: it's really easy easy to double him, right, So they 859 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: come down and they throw it into him. And the 860 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: shock clocks already at like six, so I throw it 861 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: to him. It's a quick double. He kicks it out 862 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: to like Caruso or you know, or Ben McLamore, another 863 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: guy that like they just trust that they can get 864 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: out and contest on that. So that's why it's nice 865 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: have like a saul out to the three point line, 866 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: a guy who can create shots for for other guys, 867 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: especially guys like k cp um even cruise out cutting. 868 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's why we were kind of 869 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: asking for him to play, especially right now. No Dennis 870 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Ruder to the play until probably Game one of the playoffs, 871 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: so I'm expecting hopefully BECAUSEOL gets a lot more minutes there. Um, 872 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: they obviously do trust th HD kind of run to 873 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: run screen roles. I mean, they gave him the ball 874 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the game they're to kind of create, 875 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: so so hopefully he can kind of make it up. 876 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: The Clippers are a tough team to do that too, though. 877 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: They're really good at ball pressuring and they have a 878 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: lot of wings that make it really tough for you 879 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: that can really cause turnovers. So like that's where my 880 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: worry is. But yeah, for right now, I think they'll 881 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: be able to, especially if Lebron plays on Thursday, they 882 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: should be fine. Um, it'll be another guy that obviously 883 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: will create shots for everyone, but for right now. For 884 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: for a time, I thought I thought THHD really struggled 885 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: in that in that aspect. Yeah, And you know what 886 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: I had tweeted about earlier was like, there's specific means 887 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: that the Lakers app from their role players, and one 888 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: of them is they just need a lack of mistakes. Um, 889 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, because it is a game of inches when 890 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: you get into these playoff series and and you don't 891 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: necessarily need the crazy, uh the highs that come with 892 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: th HT because you're gonna be leaning on better players 893 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: for those moments. You're gonna be leaning on a d 894 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: Lebron and Dennis Schroders. So when you when you no 895 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: longer need th h t s highs, you suddenly need 896 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: people that aren't gonna have the lows. And that's why 897 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: you play someone that is a lower ceiling, a little 898 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: bit more dependable. If there's one silver lining on the 899 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: shrewder thing, Um, if there's one silver lining on the 900 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: shooter thing, it's just that Uh. He kind of took 901 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: on a whole lot of mileage on his legs during 902 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: that non lebron A d phase. There was even the 903 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: time where he was complaining about his knee starting to 904 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: be a little sore, and there's a lot of limping. 905 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: There's some tailbone stuff too there where he took a 906 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: bad fall in one of the games. He took a 907 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: beating there for a while. So if you had to 908 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: find some reason to be a little bit less annoyed 909 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: by the fact that he's out for two weeks, would 910 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: be the fact that he's gonna get some rest. But 911 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: I mean there's also stuff that goes with COVID having 912 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: to do with conditioning. Um. You know, if you if 913 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: you really are bed ridden for seven days, it can 914 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: be the problematic for your conditioning. So I mean it's 915 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: certainly not a good thing, um, But but may it 916 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: may end up being a blessing in disguise if they 917 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: can get him back and get him integrated before they 918 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: get into a real barn burner of a playoff series. Yeah, 919 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: and I wonder he might just come off the bench, 920 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: I guess for maybe the first series right, just to 921 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: get his his legs back. People people are out for 922 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: hopefully like he's out for probably I don't know if 923 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: they tested positive for COVID, but hopefully he's okay. And yeah, 924 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: when he comes back, I'm sure he'll he'll have to 925 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 1: get his win back again. But I mean, the Lakers 926 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: have enough guards to kind of especially if Lebron is 927 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: gonna play a lot more minutes going forward, they should 928 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: be able to be okay. But he's a big part 929 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: of their team. And that's the only thing I worry 930 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: about is getting him getting enough reps with Lebron and 931 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: e d together, um, those two I think only like 932 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: twenty something games together, and he's going to be a 933 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: big part of their offense, a big part of their 934 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: shock creation, getting baskets, and he needs a rhythm and 935 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: a flow to know when and where they like the basketball, 936 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: where he shoots from and uh, all that stuff. They 937 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: just don't have enough time to get that going. Maybe 938 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: the first round is where they can build build those habits. 939 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: Maybe if it's maybe if it's against a team like Denver, 940 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: like this Denver team perfect, Yeah, yeah, And Denver really 941 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: plays the style of a defense that's really conductive to 942 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder right, they played like a drop coverage with 943 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: with Nicole Yo Kitchen. That's that's a shot that he 944 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: looks for, Dennis looks for, so it can really get 945 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: him going, get him in a rhythm very quickly. This 946 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: would be the perfect team for him, but you know, 947 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: you don't know. There's like eight games left and the 948 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: standings are all all bunched together, so we really don't know. 949 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: But it would be a ferrict team for him to 950 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: kind of come back from, get his legs back from, 951 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: get his jumper going again, because he was playing well 952 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: until he came out so this and he was carrying 953 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: the team. He kept them afloat while Lebron and A 954 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: D were out. Um, and maybe this is good rest 955 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: for him, like Lebron and eight he got. But we'll 956 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: see it. It's tough to lose your starting point guard though, 957 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: two weeks before or three weeks before the playoffs start. 958 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's just really tough. But that's 959 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: how this season has gone. Oh man, Like, what what 960 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: a weird roller coaster? Today has been? Like waking up 961 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: to the terrible Schroder news, finding out that Lebron really 962 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: is having ankle Payne like it was, it was as 963 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: low as I can remember in this last two years, 964 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: and then they finished the night looking like every bit 965 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: like a team that if you throw Lebron and then 966 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: Mix is probably the title favorites. Like, that's that's how quickly, 967 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: that's how quickly things turned around. But hey, let's get 968 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: a couple of let's get a couple of guests up here, 969 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: and then let's call it at night. Roger and I 970 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be doing a lot more of these, and 971 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: if they run this late, we probably won't try to 972 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: go too long. But you know, part of the reason 973 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: why we do this is we want to get you 974 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: guys on board. Let's see. I'm gonna start with I 975 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: think this is g that maning to hear us? Yeah, 976 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: can y'all hear me? Yes, sir? What's going on? Man? 977 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: Nothing much? Finally a good win here. But what I 978 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: want to ask you guys, pinky backing off the THHD thing, 979 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: what do you think the rotation is gonna be cut too? 980 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: Because you know, West was huge, because Saul was huge, 981 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: and when a Shooter and eight Shooter and Lebrons are back, 982 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't have all of them playing because 983 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna cut it too. What like ten eleven, 984 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: So I just want your thoughts on that. Yeah, I 985 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna be a matchup dependent most likely. 986 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: I mean, like to me, in the playoffs, the Vets 987 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: are gonna play like I feel like West Marcus all 988 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna play more. Right now, th HD 989 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of minutes. Especially how's the ball handler. 990 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: I just I just don't see him being in that 991 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: role in the playoffs, and they're gonna throw them in 992 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: see if it if it works when the playoffs, to 993 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: possessions just matters so much more, right, Like every possession matters, 994 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just you just can't have these kind of 995 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: turn homes and stuff. So I think that's will be 996 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: cut too. But the Lakers, they have a deep team, 997 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: deep roster. Everyone's going to be expecting minutes. So that's 998 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: that's a tough part of this. But I think everyone 999 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: getting minutes now allows Bogo to kind of pick and 1000 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: choose who he wants to play when the playoffs started. Yeah, 1001 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: I think I think you saw today to just in 1002 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: the second half, like there's a lot less in Montrez 1003 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: and you know, I think, uh he actually went to 1004 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: Caruso instead of th HT down the stretch, and then 1005 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: when Crusoe started to struggle to create offense, he went 1006 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: back to th HD for a couple of possessions. That 1007 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: was kind of the interesting back and forth he was 1008 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: having tonight. But that means Vogel views th HT as 1009 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: is one of his offensive creators, and right now, for 1010 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: a game like tonight, the offensive creator depth chart was thin. 1011 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: They didn't have Lebron and Dennis there, so he needed 1012 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: th h T more. But t is gonna fall the 1013 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: fourth on that depth chart pretty quickly, if not fifth, 1014 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: if he has Alex Crusoe ahead of him. So it's 1015 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: one of those things where I think he's the obvious squeeze. 1016 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: And then if you're gonna play Gassault and he has 1017 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: some clear loyalty to playing Drummond, then Tres is an 1018 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: obvious squeeze. And then the other one to pay attention 1019 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: to is Markief, who just can't hit the side of 1020 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: a barn with a jump shot lately. Um that that's 1021 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: starting to to to become a bit of a problem, 1022 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: um And I'm hoping that that that rectifies, because he 1023 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: was one of their best shooters in the post season 1024 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: last year. But I mean, those are the three names 1025 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: that come to mind to me Keith, tres And and 1026 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: th Hd as guys that will probably fall out of 1027 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: the rotation when when all hands are on deck. So 1028 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: for mcilmore because I know he hasn't been utilized as 1029 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: well when Lebron was in, because I think Frank brought 1030 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: him in when he pulled Lebron, which like doesn't make 1031 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: sense at all. And I know his defense is a 1032 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: little bit shaky, but when you have him, you know, 1033 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: with a b out there, I think it's fine. Do 1034 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: you see any way of him falling out a little bit? 1035 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: But I think he has three point not making. He's 1036 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: probably needed the most. Yeah, Like I think Jason's higher 1037 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: on Ben Malgimore than I am. Uh, Like, I do 1038 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: think they needed shooting, like he's an unconscious shooter, and 1039 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: the Lakers like really need that. They don't have a 1040 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: lot of guys that kind of take threes like that 1041 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: where they don't even have to. He doesn't even have 1042 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: to be open, right, Like he thinks every shot is 1043 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: a good shot for him, which has its good and bad. 1044 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: But it's just like his defense. He needs to be 1045 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: playing with Lebron, right, That's who needs to play next 1046 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: to he'll get good looks there and then he can survive, 1047 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: like if he's playing with the starters, playing next to 1048 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: a D I just don't like him in that all 1049 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: second unit, Like he plays a lot of minutes with 1050 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: like all of our worst defenders together would be like 1051 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: it was like thht Ben Malcolmore treads Markie Moore's right, 1052 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: Like that's just a line of where he's just not 1053 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: going to be good at and he's gonna be guarding 1054 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: people that you know are good score so that I 1055 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: think he'll play in the playoffs though, Like I think 1056 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: he'll get minutes, but he'll be I think he'll be 1057 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot more situational. Um. Yeah, so that's why I 1058 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: think of Ben Malkimore. Yeah, I think so. Two. I 1059 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: think there was a lot of debate going on with 1060 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: Ben Malcamore today on it or um. You know, like 1061 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: if you look at his numbers, it's a lot of 1062 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: bad stuff defensively, but the ones that were lining is 1063 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: it's been good with lebron Um. I think they have 1064 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes together so far, and in the UH 1065 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: maybe a less than that, maybe like fifteen. I can't remember. 1066 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: They have some amount of minutes together so far, and 1067 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: in those minutes they've defended extremely well. The defensive braining 1068 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: is about one oh three, and they've scored the ball 1069 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: at a crazy rate, about a hundred and thirty three 1070 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: points per one Hunter possessions. And you know, it's a 1071 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,479 Speaker 1: no brainer. It's a it's an archetype of basketball player 1072 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: that Lebron is one with throughout his entire career. I 1073 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: think Jr. Smith, think Kyle Korver, even Ray Allen there 1074 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: towards the end wasn't as good defensively as he used 1075 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: to be Lebron. Lebron as a back line communicator can 1076 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: help guys who have, you know, a little bit of 1077 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: a space case attitude on defense and on the other end, 1078 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: can get them wide open looks so that they can 1079 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: capitalize in their value. And so I tend to think 1080 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: that it's too early to give up on McLemore, even 1081 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: though he's had some struggles, because he really is a 1082 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: player that you need a Lebron type to really unlock him. 1083 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: And to Rodge's point, like it's like the rising tide 1084 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: that floats all boats if you put if you put 1085 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: Ben McLamore with crazy bench lineups that don't have a 1086 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: ton of talent, like it's kind of setting him up 1087 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: to fail a little bit. All right, Well, yeah, thank 1088 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: you all for answering that. I don't want to take 1089 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: up too much time for him people to speak, so 1090 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: I'll have off this, but thank you too. I see 1091 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: you'll later. Thank you. All Right, let's get another one 1092 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: in here. Let's see what we got. Let's try t Yeah, 1093 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: what's up? Um? Well, obviously Lakers, you know, close win, 1094 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: close win against Nuggets. But my question is that I'm 1095 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: just you know, I've been watching a few of the 1096 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: Lakers games, you know, against the Raptors, um against the 1097 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: King Sacrament Kings, and you know, my issues just with 1098 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: with Andre Drummond and Ga saw minutes, you know, like 1099 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, you see you see what Marcusol did throughout 1100 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: the whole game. He you know, space to you know, 1101 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: spaces for folk floor. You know, made some playmaking you know, 1102 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: uh assist and all that. But when you see you know, 1103 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, you know, floppy plays, always creating turnovers. But 1104 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: my my question is like when it but from from 1105 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: from now on or when it comes to the playoffs 1106 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: playoff time, do you think um um vocal, do you 1107 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: think Vocos should start um Gassol then Drummond because I 1108 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: believe I believe he should, to be honest, got that's 1109 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: that's my question. You're preaching to the choirer T Like 1110 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been preaching. I've been preaching because like 1111 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what because they I was watching the 1112 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: fourth to fourth quarter, and you know, I was Gasol 1113 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: was planning. You saw the Lakers were making creating, shots, 1114 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: were making shots were falling in and that. But when 1115 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: you bring in drumming in the game, somehow, some way, 1116 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: the Nuggets they come crawling back, and I'm like, what 1117 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: the hell is vocal doing? Bro? We were we here? 1118 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: You man? I think I think we're Roger and I 1119 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: both agree that like, uh, that we think that Gasol 1120 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: is the obvious option as a starter, but that you 1121 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: don't give up on Drummond either. But at the end 1122 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: of the day, like Frank has shown a tendency, just 1123 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 1: like he did with Javeil last year, that when push 1124 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: comes to shove in the postseason moment, that he is 1125 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: willing to make those adjustments, those tough calls that make 1126 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: a guy after, you know, sit on the bench, after 1127 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: he played a lot throughout the season, and so I'm 1128 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: not worried about that specific decision being made. What about you, 1129 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: rog Yeah, T Like what I would say is like, 1130 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: if you remember last year, like Javal was on the side, 1131 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: was on the other side. He was on the other 1132 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: side tonight, but he started every single game right um 1133 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: last year. And that's how I would picture Andre Drummond, 1134 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: Like he's in that role. He's in that role to 1135 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: like bang around with fives in the regular season so 1136 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: that a D doesn't have to take those matchups, take 1137 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,399 Speaker 1: some weird shots, eat possessions right where um where there's 1138 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: nothing going, they just throw it to him and he 1139 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: gets a shot up instead of getting a turnover. Like 1140 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: that's why I see. That's how I see him in 1141 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: Gasol will be in that Dwight Howard roll right, that 1142 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: former Defensive Player of the Year, the guy you can 1143 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, lean on for his experience and stuff. And 1144 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe he'll start some games, maybe he won't, Maybe they'll 1145 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: start a D at the five, But that's how I 1146 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: see I don't think again, I don't think Drummond is 1147 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: going to be a big part of like whether we 1148 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: win or lose the title here. I really don't. I 1149 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,479 Speaker 1: think it'll be a lot of the stalls. So maybe 1150 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: this is just being wishful thinking. I don't know. They 1151 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 1: might start drumming game one of the playoffs, who knows, 1152 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: But I just think like Vogel has has shown in 1153 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: the past that he won't if the matchups needed that 1154 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 1: he won't. Right. He started Marti Morris in the second 1155 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: round against Houston UM and I think against Portland he 1156 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: also bench Jabail in the finals. Jabil and Dwight. I 1157 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: don't think play JaVale at least didn't play a single 1158 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: minute and in those first few games. So that's how 1159 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: I say, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't stress too much 1160 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: about that. I mean it pisces me off man. You 1161 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: see what Mark you saw? You saw what you saw 1162 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: did tonight, like you know anytimes Secul saw the way 1163 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: he's playing this And I'm thinking to so, why is 1164 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel point and giving one minutes to drumming who 1165 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: does nothing? Like literally does nothing. All I see is 1166 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: him posting up, him him not rebounding the ball. But 1167 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: when I see the saw, he's making the plays. He's 1168 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: making the plays, And you know, I don't know, man, 1169 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what Vank Frank Vogel is no one man, 1170 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean I'm not I'm not worried 1171 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: like all, but the Lakers, to be honest, I mean, 1172 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: there's like, I don't know how many games it's left, 1173 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: like seven games, but like I mean, they I don't 1174 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: want to see him in the playing tournament, to be honest, 1175 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: I as don't. But I mean hopefully, you know, they 1176 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: can figure this out and uh, you know, hopefully we 1177 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: can get another trip. Yh yeah, we we agree with you. 1178 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: Te hey man, thanks for hopping on. We appreciating thank you. 1179 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: All right, Let's do one more and get out of here. 1180 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: Let's give Mr David up here. We lose David. All right, 1181 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: let's try another one. Let's do Daniel. Hello, can you 1182 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: hear me? Hey, guys, like your nation, what's up. We're 1183 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit better tonight. Absolutely. I think that 1184 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: was a much needed win for everyone. And the only 1185 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: thing I would really like to say is overall, to 1186 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: not really freak out. I think now is a little 1187 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 1: bit too early to get worried, but maybe it's okay 1188 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: to be a bit nervous, just kind of the Lakers overall, 1189 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: you know, mm hmm, yeah, everything's go ahead. Rush. I 1190 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: would say, what makes you what makes you most nervous, Like, 1191 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 1: what's making you the most nervous um, So the high 1192 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: ankle spring is what's really making me nervous because that 1193 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: takes just so long to recover from and it's not 1194 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: something that you can really like speed up with a 1195 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: ton of physical thing arapy. You just kind of have 1196 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: to let it heal on its own. So that's a 1197 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: huge drag. Fortunately, Anthony Davis is looking a lot better, 1198 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: and I think the last hurdle he needs to overcome 1199 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: from returning his injury is just that mental hurdle, and 1200 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: him getting a lot of minutes tonight makes me feel 1201 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: better with that, So overall, I think things are going 1202 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: to be okay. I agree you man. I've talked a 1203 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: lot about the mental hurdle when it comes to these injuries. 1204 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: I broke my foot in between my first and second 1205 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: year playing college ball, and like I it took me 1206 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: like six months to trust taking off of that foot again. 1207 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: And I think I think when you factor in the 1208 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: fact that it's his achilles, I think it gets a 1209 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: little a little bit even more nerve wracking. That's scary. 1210 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: But what's nice is you know, just by virtue of 1211 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: the threat of the competition tonight, he rose to the 1212 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: occasion and he forced he was forced to trust it 1213 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: and uh and it held up for him. And so 1214 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that helps to build a little bit more 1215 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: confidence overall in terms of feeling nervous about this team, 1216 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: everything's about the margin for error. Like last year there 1217 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: just wasn't this outstanding threat other than maybe the Clippers 1218 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: out there. But this season it's like, man like, Denver 1219 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: looked really good before the Lakers man handled him tonight. 1220 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: The Clippers look really good. Phoenix and Utah both look 1221 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: really good. The Brooklyn is this behemoth out east. If 1222 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: they can get healthy, that could be a gigantic problem 1223 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: in terms why would they stop Anthony Davis and Lebron 1224 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: from getting to the rack or for that matter, I'd 1225 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: love to see the Milwaukee Brooklyn series. What are they 1226 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna do with you? Honest, I don't know. No, I agree, 1227 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: And and that's the thing is like then also Milwaukee 1228 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: and Hilling, So is that these huge challenges, And so 1229 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: I think being nervous normal. That's just a reaction to 1230 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the league is so unbelievably talented right now. Yeah, 1231 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: and just speaking to the Lebron point, like, I don't 1232 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: think anyone knows their body better than Lebron, like you should, 1233 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: he said, he kind of rushed back a little bit, 1234 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 1: but I'm rewatching that. Like Toronto game, I thought he 1235 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: was moving pretty fine on both ends. He was hitting 1236 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: his jumpers as well. So, like Lebron is the last 1237 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: time I'm worried about what this team, Like, I wanted 1238 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: to see Anthony Davis, me and Jason wanted to see 1239 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis put up a game like this, and he did, 1240 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: and I thought that was the most important thing. We 1241 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: can't really predict how Lebron will play, but like just 1242 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: watching his playoffs, um, I don't know who else is 1243 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: right now as well. So a lot of teams are 1244 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: banged up, a lot of teams are gonna have to 1245 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: fight through this. This is a really tough schedule that's 1246 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: been put out. All teams are going through hell of 1247 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: a schedule. So maybe it's just the healthiest team that 1248 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: will win. But I like your point about like Brooklyn 1249 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: and all these teams have like flaws right that they're 1250 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through. I don't know what Brooklyn's 1251 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: answer for a guy like nice is. I don't think 1252 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: it's Blake Griffin, Like, I don't think that's the answer 1253 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: for him. Um, So it's gonna be it's gonna be 1254 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: like really interesting to see. And and the Lakers have 1255 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: two really big trump cards A D and Lebron are 1256 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: to the best cards you want going into the playoffs, 1257 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 1: So that that's thing that you can make you calm 1258 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: all that chemistry and stuff that those are real concerns, 1259 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: like chemistry with the team and getting enough reps with 1260 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: this with the guys. That's when I'm most nervous about. 1261 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm nervous about Lebron, right, Jason 1262 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Lebron probably would be fine. I think he's he's a 1263 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: guy I'm least nervous about in the playoffs. Yep. Agree. 1264 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: As we mentioned earlier, I just he's less dependent on 1265 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: his physical gifts at this phase of his career. Um, 1266 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I should say strictly just his mobility. He's a little 1267 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: bit more dependent on his strength, size, and his brain, 1268 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: which allows him to kind of compensate for some of 1269 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: his uh you know, physical issues dealing with the injury, Daniel, 1270 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: thanks for coming out, man. We really appreciate you. Yeah, 1271 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: you guys made tremendous points, and I thank you. Guys 1272 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: have been doing a really good job, so thanks for 1273 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: having me. Appreciate Thank you. Let's give David one last 1274 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: chance real quickly before we call it a night, and 1275 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: he bounced out again. I don't know what's going on 1276 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: with that, all right, everybody, Well, we'll try to call 1277 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: it just because it's already eleven o'clock. Um, but we 1278 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: really appreciate you guys supporting us as always. Um My 1279 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: guesses we'll do another one of these on Thursday after 1280 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the Lakers hopefully beat the Clippers, and I'm going to 1281 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: do my best. Oh, David, we get you. Yeah, you 1282 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: can hear what we can hear you. What's going on? 1283 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: What's going on with fellas well? I think you kind 1284 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: of touched on it, uh in the last one. But 1285 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: I was just wondering with Lebron coming back from the 1286 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: ankle injury and then Schroulder possibly being out to like 1287 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: maybe the first round, like you guys said, are you 1288 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: guys worried about like the ball handling like in the 1289 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: first round the playoffs, especially like after what happened with 1290 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: like Tatum, how he said he has to have like 1291 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: an inhaler and stuff. I feel like shoulder is not 1292 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to be like going into the first round. Yeah, and 1293 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel like th ht s are only option behind 1294 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Lebron If that's the case, Yeah, that's a that's a 1295 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,479 Speaker 1: scary thought. I think that really depends on the team. 1296 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Like if we're playing the Clippers in the first round, 1297 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: that's a big worry of mine because they're the ball 1298 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: pressure a law and and Lebron's gonna need another ball handler, especially, 1299 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: but against a team like Denver, I think Shrewder can 1300 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of work his way back, and you know what 1301 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: covid that that's scary, Like we don't know how he's 1302 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: going to come back. Hopefully he comes back, but he's 1303 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of time. He's gonna get two 1304 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: weeks here for sure out and hopefully he can kind 1305 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: of build back slowly while the Lakers get some wins. 1306 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's definitely a concern. We saw tonight. I 1307 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: mean t ht was running that second unit for a while. 1308 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: It did not look good. But I think that's what 1309 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I think that's where gasol comes in, right, Like you 1310 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: have another laymaker that that you can give the ball to. Again, 1311 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: I call him like a release vout because give him 1312 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the ball at the top of the key. They're not 1313 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: going to ball pressure him out there because he's Marcus 1314 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: al so he can kind of playmate from there. But yeah, 1315 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm definitely concerned though with the ball handler and give 1316 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: shrewders out and not himself. I think shrewder is absolutely 1317 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: necessary to be the corp person whoever comes out of 1318 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: the East. But the Lakers have an ability to win 1319 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: basketball games with Lebron being their only really good primary 1320 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: ball handler. I mean, depending on how you felt about 1321 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Rondo last year. Uh. The point being like, I think 1322 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: they can beat Denver, for instance, without without Schroeder. They 1323 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: just need to get him healthy in time for whenever 1324 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: the Clippers come around. But yeah, as far as you know, 1325 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the high ankle spring goes for Lebron, just like we 1326 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: were saying earlier, like you just he I would rather 1327 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: have Anthony Davis at his peak physical form because of 1328 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: what they need from him defensively, and let Lebron play 1329 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: old man ball, like if he needs to post up 1330 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: all the time and and do whatever it would use 1331 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: his strength as opposed to his mobility to gain an advantage, 1332 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: then that's what they gotta do. Um. But at the 1333 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, like uh he, whenever you're listing 1334 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: worries for the Lakers, I think Lebron should be pretty 1335 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: low towards the bottom of that list for sure, right right, right, Well, 1336 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Thanks, all right, alright, guys, So yeah, 1337 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: the stay tuned for Thursday, and I'm gonna try to 1338 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: throw this thing together and get it on the podcast 1339 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: either here in a little bit tonight or first thing 1340 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. Thanks as always for your support. Rise. I 1341 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: appreciate you as well, man, and I will see you 1342 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: guys soon. Thanks everyone, I appreciate it. B Bye.