WEBVTT - The Truth About Magic City Mondays | MiniPod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.600 Native Lamb Pod is a production of Iurheart Radio in 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:04.880 partnership with Reaison Choice Media. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.040 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.120 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to our Native Land Native 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.400 Land Mini Pod. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.160 We still have Garrison Hayes with us. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.560 Shout out to my brother Andrew Gillup for actually joining 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.799 his family and going on vacation. Much deserve, much needed 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.440 for spring Break and Angela Raie. But today we're having 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.440 a mini pod of great urgency because what we have 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.960 is an attack on the arts. First, Timothy Challemeat took 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.120 on ballet and the opera, saying who cares about those things? 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.160 And now we have African American performing art centers under 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.720 attack by the NBA. Magic City Monday, as we all know, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:50.800 Love and Adore has has was canceled with the Atlanta Hawks. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.040 It left many people distraught, It left it left the 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.080 entire community devastated. Uh, and so I wanted to make 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.880 sure first we're going to pull up with Adams said 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:03.320 about the cancelation. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.040 Here we go, he said. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.200 When we became aware of the Atlanta Hawks schedule promotion, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.160 we reached out to Hawk's leadership to better understand their plans. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.959 And rationale. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.360 While we appreciate the team's perspective and the desire to 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.720 move forward, we have heard significant concerns from a broader 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.240 array of league stakeholders, including fans, partners, and employees. I 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.400 believe canceling this promotion is the right decision for the 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.960 broader NBA community. I have not been so disappointed and 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.640 a commissioner in a very long period of time. But 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.600 here we are, Garrison, Angela, I mean, do you all 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.760 share the same heartbreak that I share? Magic City Monday 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.560 is a part of the Atlanta lore and legacy. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.080 Is this good? Go ahead? Angela. I want to hear 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:48.680 from you. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:49.840 No, I want to hear your question. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.120 I was curious, I mean, just as a point of technicality, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.080 is this the first one? Or have they been doing 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.680 this for a while. I'm an Atlanta Hawks fan, I've 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.680 never heard of this. This is the first one. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.760 They have sweat they were going to do wings ti 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.080 I performing at halftime. I believe two change might have 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.400 been there. I know Young Drove was there. It's just 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.919 the whole atmosphere. I mean, and then you go celebrate 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.240 the after party at Magic City. I mean, you're just 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.080 reinforcing making sure the dollars reach the community. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.080 Where they're needed, circulating in the black community. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.799 I like that. I like that souls to the. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.720 Polls, literally to the polls. I think that. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.040 The thing that is interesting to me is that there's 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:34.680 this confusion about how much like strip club culture is 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.520 a part of Atlanta, Like it is so fundamental to 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.320 and I don't think that kids or families are confused 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.560 about that. So it would be one thing if they 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.600 were like, oh, let's actually bring naked booty women to 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.320 the thing and have the pole dancing for halftime. That 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.480 wasn't gonna happen. But there was pole dancing at Usher's 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.959 Vegas show. Usher included it in other aspects of his show, 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.799 and it was fine because what it is a part 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.760 of Atlantic culture. Now here's another piece that I think 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.200 is really really important here. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.279 This is a business, this is a pastime. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.280 These kids, some of these badass children, do listen to 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.639 hip hop with cursing in the lyrics. So it's not like, oh, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.800 I cannot believe this clutched my pearls. But I think 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.960 what's fascinating about this is Jamie Gertz, who is the 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.519 principal owner of the Atlanta Hawks, with her husband Tony Wrestler, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.280 had a twenty twenty five Stars documentary called Magic City 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:32.040 and American Fantasy. This docuseries is part of the reason 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.920 why she has an affinity toward Magic City and probably 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.400 any interest in doing this at all. I'm sure this 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.240 was remarkably disappointing for them. I think it's you know, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:43.720 it's not the end of the world, but I can 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.480 understand why it's frustrating. Again to me, this is just 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.960 a part of, you know, what Atlanta culture is, and 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.400 so I just was blown away that it became such 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.080 a big deal, and I was really surprised. I'd love 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.160 to know what you all think or no, like why 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.480 Adam Silver felt the need to get involved. There was 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.400 some blowback, but it's largely from conservatives, and let's not 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.240 act like they're not involved in strip club culture. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.280 I think part of it is on. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.040 The deal for strip clips. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:23.680 What I think happened is that Lucordine, NBA player made 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.679 his statement that basically kind of blew it up around 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.840 certain circles that this was inappropriate. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.160 Right. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.080 But to your point, Angela as a as a person 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.839 who grew up in Atlanta, born and raised in Atlanta, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.279 I knew about matt I knew about the strip clubs 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.960 and all this stuff, like from very very young. And 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.919 it's not to say that this is a place that 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.320 was like I wanted to go, none of that, but 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.599 but I knew about it, and it was a part 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.359 of the culture, and it was certainly a part of 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.200 the lore of the city. I mean, everybody knows that 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.800 when you know there's a there's a hot record that's 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.080 about to come out. They played in Magic City first, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.839 Like we know that, Like that's what we know. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.440 That's a part of the culture. So I thought it 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:01.159 was interesting enough. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.919 Of course they were playing the Orlando Magic and so 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.920 like there's this kind of connection there with the team name, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.400 and I thought that was kind of. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:09.960 Interesting, and that. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.400 Was the main point. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.240 That was the main point. It kind of got blown 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:14.880 out of proportion. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.520 I think they were just doing a kind of an 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.720 interesting play on the name and the city and the 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.440 team and the lore and all that stuff, and it 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.920 got kind of blown up. To your point, I highly 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.479 doubt they had any anyone in there that was any 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:32.200 more let's say, inappropriately dressed than a cheerleader or a 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.480 person who was a part of the dance squad right 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.680 like that that that wouldn't have, you know, risened to 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.400 some level of inappropriateness, And so I did think it 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:41.440 was a bit a bit much. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.800 Look, Luke Cornett averaged six point seven points a game, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.680 and he was the one who kind of spurred this 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.720 opposition from the San Antonio Spurs. He played at Vanderbilt. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.200 I don't know anybody that has a Luke Cornett jersey. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:54.280 But one of the things I. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.160 Did, does he does he have a quote? I want 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.000 to play the quote. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.960 I don't know he wrote it. He wrote an article. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.680 He wrote an article on Medium calling for it to 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:06.480 be canceled. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.720 Okay, I see this now, Oh steven A had something 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:11.960 to say about it. You want to see that? 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:13.800 Absolutely not. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.440 But you know, I think that that people need to 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.760 first because they're people who aren't familiar with Atlanta, like 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.240 the three of us are. I went to Morehouse. It's 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.680 one of my favorite cities on Earth. I tell people 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.039 all the time, Atlanta's full. They don't need nobody else 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.960 moving down there. Traffic's a mess, but Atlanta is a 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.919 city of great culture. All the way back from Maynard Jackson, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.919 you know, he piggybacked off. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:37.840 Maryon Barry in d C. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.840 Creating a new entire atmosphere of black wealth, what they 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.520 did with Hartsville Jackson Airport, black contracting. You're talking about 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.400 the epicenter of black intelligentia with itc More High School 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.080 of Medicine, Morehouse, Spellman Clark, Atlanta, Morris Brown. I mean, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.040 it's just always been and people when they think of 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.040 strip clubs or Magic City, they just think of something 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:04.040 that is dinner, whereas in Atlanta it's seen as the 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.200 epicenter of pop culture. Mister Magic is a real human being, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.200 his son Juju is a real human being. They are 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:15.160 figures in Atlanta culture. Government, I mean they play a role. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.520 They you know, politicians know who they are, government employees 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.680 know who they are. And to your point, Garrison, there 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.240 are there are songs like DJ's literally you have to 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.960 go to Magic City to play your music first. And 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.640 Magic City is more known for their food and cuisine. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.760 Shout out the MC Kitchen, who probably follow some of 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:37.880 y'all on Instagram. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:38.760 They follow me, but. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.440 They're they're more known for their food and cuisine than 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.400 actual strippers. I mean, I've been I go I don't 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.560 mind saying that. Ellen goes with me it's all good. Uh. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.520 The food is phenomenal and the you know, just the 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.640 it's very small only beef I do have now juju 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.800 if you are listening. They charged way too much for parking, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.240 which is why everybody got a They charged about sixty 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.320 eighty dollars the park at Magic City. But I just 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.480 think that it's a and shout out to Tony Wrestler 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.760 because a lot of times you get these owners of 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.040 organizations who don't identify with the city. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.560 Yeah, but shout out. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:13.840 To him for even they were like, we're gonna do 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.800 Magic City Monday, and Tony Wrestler was like, bet I'll 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.400 be there. Like, but the city, the city still showed 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.960 up to y'all still perform. It wasn't Magic City Monday. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.280 It was just a Monday with the magic And I'm 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.600 disappointed that I Adam Silver didn't let Atlanta be Atlanta. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.400 Yeah, Adam Silver, we got to have a conversation about 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.920 the commissioner. Okay, I really feel like he's lost his way. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.200 Pablo has been kind of blowing his spot up and 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.680 so I need I need some reforms from Adam Silver. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 He hates I know that pet Pablo been to watch 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.439 his back around. See he's better watch his back. This 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.440 is what I got it. I say this about about 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.000 the city of Atlanta. You're right that Atlanta is a 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.520 city of culture. But Atlanta is truly a city of diversity. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.079 And what I mean by that is it's a lot 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.720 of black people, but it's a lot of different types 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.000 of black people. You can find basically any kind of 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.600 black person in Atlanta. And I think to some degree, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.719 if I let the Atlanta come out of me, I 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.520 would say that people are very jealous of that. I 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.080 think people have a lot of hate in their heart 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.680 toward Atlanta because black people in Atlanta can be anything. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.600 You can grow up as a skater kid and be 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.640 a very black skater kid in Atlanta. You can be 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.160 into any type of music in Atlanta. You can be 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.480 into strip clubs, you can be into the arts, anything 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.559 you want in Atlanta. And it's because of that diversity 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.280 that a night like Magic City Night doesn't really like 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.040 offend the sensibilities. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.160 Because they had the H. J. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.760 Russell Knight a couple of weeks ago, right like they 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.800 had the moor House Night. They had the you know, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.280 spell House Night a few months ago. Like there's a 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.760 little bit of everything there, and they're gonna have the 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.959 Pride Night a couple of times a year, and they're 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.240 gonna have everything. So it's not as though this is 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.440 some special or we're honoring strippers. No, we're honoring everybody 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.120 because in Atlanta you can be yourself. You can show 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.280 up as yourself and be yourself, and we're very proud 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.560 of that. And it's unf fortunate that we let anyone, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.480 particularly Luke Cornett come in and dictate. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.880 I know, but I want to know where is he from? 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.800 Like from uh Louisville, like Jack Harlow. Y'all need to 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:15.760 watch the main episode. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:26.080 If you confused, Yeah, you were close. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.840 He's from Lexington. He's from Lexington, Kentucky. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.600 Let me turn out everybody trying to take something from 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:34.800 black people to last couple of. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.959 Books. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.800 Oh lord, we do need to get Charles need to 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.760 come defend himself. But all I was saying, oh. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.080 I said, they need to vote. They need to vote 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.760 for him. We need to see some changes around here. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.480 I suppose I need to He also need to come 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.319 to fan Kentucky right now because they tripped. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.160 See yes, yes, but defend this. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.040 N But you could be Jamal Bryant in Atlanta. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.880 To your point, I could be Andrake Dickens in Atlanta, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.319 j Russell in Atlanta. I mean, you could go and 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.600 be at Emory, or you could work at the number 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.000 one trauma center in the Southeast at Grady, like you know, 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.120 I just I just find you could be Stacey Abrams 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.360 graduated from Swelming like the. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.320 Bottom bottoms, and. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.120 You could be White Chocolate, who is probably arguably the 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:23.679 greatest ripper in the history of mankind. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:24.800 But I don't, I mean, I don't want to go to. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:27.680 White Chocolate. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.079 She was in a tip drill video. You don't remember 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:31.760 White Chocolate. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.680 She did this, and I tried to erase the tip 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.199 drill video out of my mind. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:37.120 She did this. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.160 She did this dance one time where she she danced 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.480 to like a house version of Mario's Let Me Love You. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.599 You should let Me Love You. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.320 Just kep going anyway. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.319 So she danced all the way up in the ceiling 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.000 and like they had the ceiling pant panels removed, and 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.800 when she came back down, she just dropped down and 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.760 like money just rained up and came down. And she 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.680 had these huge bodyguards and bouncers who helped her collect 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.240 all the money. They went to like Jackson State and 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.640 everybody went just to see white Chocolate dance. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:13.920 I mean it was just. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.319 I appreciate the detail with which you remember this. It's 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:25.040 clearly left a mark. It clearly left white like Jack Barlowe. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.160 No, but she actually actually she There was an article 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.800 about her in Creative Loafing, I believe or something like that. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:38.160 What is that local? It feels like it's local to Atlanta. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.400 But maybe maybe they talked about they talked about her 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:48.040 transforming the YEP profile White Chocolate, creative Loafing of creative uh, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.480 creative Loafing from tall pole to small screen. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.360 And it goes into who she is. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:56.520 Well, thank you for that. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.319 I had a biographical narrative out White Chocolate. Shout out 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.720 to you, White Chocolate. Clearly you've had a major impact 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.480 on mccary's life. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:18.120 And four, Wow, what happened? I don't know if we should. 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.520 Should Morehouse college? 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.160 Oh Lord help us. Okay, So here is the thing. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.880 You know, there are a lot of people. I grew 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.079 up Catholic and then went to Baptist Church with my 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.319 dad and then ended up in Koji Church. By the 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.520 time I was sixteen, I know that my bishop is 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:39.920 not going to love this mini pod. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:40.520 Sorry. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:48.800 I just think that we should have conversations about art skill. Uh, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.679 the the You have to be able to do a 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.440 chin up to be a stripper, to climb up. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.520 I can't do a chin up, can't twork. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.600 All of that takes athletic ability that. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:58.600 Many of us don't have. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.680 And so I think that there is some hate going 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.960 on about that too. People are mad they can't do 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:12.120 what they do. But also I understand people not wanting 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.160 to see people so naked everywhere. I have to tell 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.200 you all, I'm a germophobe. I did go to the 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.120 strip club. One of my good friends had a birthday, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.600 so we went for her birthday. She did three. I 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.720 can only do one and a half. I was done 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.280 after that second half. I was like, look, guys, lovey. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.240 The chicken wings were great at Magic City, but I 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.040 think I'm done here. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:36.200 And here's the thing. Germs. I just I can't do 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.040 the germs. I can't do the germs. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.520 I can't do the germs, Like, don't shake any of 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.800 that around me. And I'm sure I'm not calling them germs, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.400 but I'm calling all the people that had to like 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.840 touch them and like the butts that are on seats. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:51.320 It's just. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.520 I can't do the germs. I don't even want to 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.680 shake any respect. I don't even want to shake hands. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.200 I want to fist, bump and hug these days because 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.360 y'all go to not y'all, but some people outside go 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.240 to the bathroom and don't wash their hands, and then 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.000 they're putting those hands on the sides and thighs of 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.440 these and the waste of these people, these human beings 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.040 that are sharing an art form. I don't want any 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.320 I don't want to be anywhere near it. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.240 I was so you weren't supposed touch I thought you 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.720 were supposed to. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.320 Look, you can't touch the people, Okay, Well I don't know. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.960 But are they sitting on laps? Because what about if 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.400 the pants aren't clean? Okay, and then they're going to 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.600 transfer those over to your laps. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.640 Let me bring it home. Let me bring it home 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:31.960 real quick. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.960 On the things I do think is that we should 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.280 not be and I'm not saying you are, but just 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.960 in general, we should not be in the business of 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.280 discounting people because we need all these people if we're 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.640 going to organize and when I made the joke about 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.320 social costs. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:45.520 I'm talking. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:47.360 Yeah, yeah know. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.400 What I'm saying is that we need to make sure 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.080 that I said this on TV last year. I said 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.560 that Kamala Harris needed to organize from the churches to 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.760 Magic City, and I agree with that wholeheart. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.000 Karie would like to be the organizer of the strippers 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.840 like he Win himself. He would like to connecting. He 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.720 would like to be the organizer. He will take you, guys, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.440 just so you know, this is a former state wide candidate. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.880 He will take a pay decrease if. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:19.200 You will allow him to be pro bono organizer of 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:20.800 the strip club. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.960 They have stories. Somebody sign I could listen to the. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:29.320 Story across America states. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:32.120 Like yeah, strategy, well he might have got some years, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.960 but fifty strategies at all, Howard Dan everything. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.120 Now yeah, yeah, Lexicon Lexington, Kentucky. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.280 That's who we're going to start. We're gonna start. We're 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.000 gonna start at Luke Cortnet's home. Anyway, Welcome homey all. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.160 This has been another mini pod with Natives Land, and 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.440 we're grateful that Garrison Hayes joined us on this auspicious 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.240 day where we were able to dig into uh something 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.400 that troubled us all, which is another attack and assault 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:56.000 on the arts. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.360 Wait a minute, can we not close the show out 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.800 really quick? Because I have a question for Garrison about this. Sorry, guys, Garrett, 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.600 one thing we did not say in the main show 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:11.400 or now. Garrison is a former preacher, former so I. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.239 Want to know. I want to know. I know that's 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:13.760 what I'm saying. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.439 I wanted because because I brought up church and then 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.119 I meant to say this, but I got distracted on 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.560 the germs because ad D. I'm sorry, but Garrison, do 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.240 what do you think about So there's this like this 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.600 church condemnation about this art form overall, not in every 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:28.240 single church. 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.280 How do you square like your. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.040 Your Christianity, your belief system with this whole kind of 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.360 line of thinking and the judgment that is often attached 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.680 to these folks in this art form. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.000 So I got I have jokes right like I can, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.240 I can, I can play the game. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:45.080 I will say. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.760 I understand where church folks are coming from when it 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.560 when they say, like I, you know, I don't want 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.880 my kid or whatever exposed to this stuff. I think 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.760 it's a little bit of fake outrage. If I'm being 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.840 completely honest with you, I've never been to a strip club, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.680 in part because I was raised like a real church boy, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.680 and then I went off to seminary, and then I 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.919 was a pastor, and I just couldn't be caught in 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.960 one of those places, right like that just would not 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.120 be a good look. I never really had the desire 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.959 for similar reasons to you, Angela. I'm a little bit 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.359 of a term of folk. But what I will say 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:21.240 is that if we are being very, very honest, right like, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.000 I think the folks who are going into the strip 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.399 clubs are far more honest than the porn addicts in 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:29.240 the pulpit. 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.640 Can we just say it? Can we just say it clearly? 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.480 And like folks, people at the very least are being 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.600 honest with themselves and putting out exactly who they are. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.800 And I think that's important to say. The other side 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.240 of it that always concerns me. I have a friend 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.560 who was once in that life, in that world, and 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.360 there is a lot of assault. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.440 There is a lot of like drugs. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.280 And trafficking and things of that nature that take place 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.480 in you know, strip clubs across the country, gentlemen's clubs, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.280 whatever you want to call them, and I think it 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.399 needs to be said that that we need to protect people. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.200 You know, if a person wants to be a stripper 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.639 or be an adult entertainer more broadly, they should be 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.399 able to do so. That is one of their rights 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.960 to do so, but it should be safe, and as 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.359