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Case closed 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: right James eyl Ray Let's upon for the official story. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Some of the evidence, as far as I was concerned, 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: did not match the circumstances. This is the MLK Tapes. 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: The first episodes are available now. Listen on the Heart 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host with 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Each Money Making Conversation talk show is about 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and in decision makers. I 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions for success. So 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: some it's a sizeable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: their very best life. These are my passion and that's 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do for you. I want you 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: to stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: above bigger obstacles that life will present to you. The 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to listen to 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: our career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, more ovation, leadership, overcoming 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: the art, and how to live a balanced life. My 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: next guest wants women to discover their true worth. She 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: is an activist self improvement spooks to me self empowerment speaker, entrepreneur, 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: talent manager and author of I Once Was Her. She 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: is famous for being the manager or a talent manager 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: to wrapp her film and television star Little By Wow. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation entrepreneur and author Teresa Cardwell, Hi, guys, 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: how are you, Thrisa? How you doing? My friend? Oh 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: my god, I'm so blessed. It's been a long time, right, 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: it's been you know, it's really interesting. Let's let's go 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: back and to give a history about how we met. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: We met in Los Angeles, Little Bow and by a 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: thousand people came into the Steve Harvard Morning Shows radio 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: booth and that was the first thing. Counter we met, 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, as a rising star and uh in the business. 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: And uh, I like to believe that Stephen I helped, 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, fuel his success by supporting him in the music. 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: But you stood out because you were his talent manager 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: and and the stand the talent managers today. Correct, Yes, well, 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: right now, I only managed television and film, and I 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: do like branding and marketing. Awesome, awesome, So talk about 57 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, you're coming on the book, 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: coming on show, talking about the book, I once was her. 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I read the book a very good read, very fast read, 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: because of the fact, because of the fact. You know, 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: if when you read the book, Teresa Um, if this 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: was a play, if it was a dramatic play, because 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: you introduced different people who are important relationships in your life, 64 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I would sit. That would put you in the middle 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: of the room, and I have a spotlight on you, 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: and the entire room will be dark, okay, and then 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: a light will shine on Curtis Martin. He stand up, 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: and he says, and then a night was shown up 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: on another person. They stand up. Because that's how that 70 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: was the feeling that I had when I read the book, 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: because it felt like various levels of testimonials about not long. 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just one of Some of them were 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: one pages, some of them were two or three pages, 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the little and so, but they were important because they 75 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: described layers in your life. There the changes in your 76 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: life and how they were important. So talk about the 77 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: the angle and the thought and putting it that I 78 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: described the approach to your book from a theatrical standpoint, right, Yes, 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: you did, you did, And see what the reason why 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: I chose to write the book that way. First of all, 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a big reader, right, so I wanted to 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: make my book different because I wanted to catch you know, 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: my readers. I wanted them because you know, a lot 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: of times we read the book, we'll start reading a book, 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: we'll put it down. But I wanted my book to 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: be an easy read. So I'm so glad that you 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: got that. You took that from the book. I wanted 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: to be an easy read, and I wanted it to you. 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: I wanted my readers to feel what I went through. 90 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: And I wanted each one of my friends to write 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: something about me, like what did they experience with me 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: or by me being their friends? And I picked the 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: I picked the girls who were you know, who are 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: the closest to me to start each chapter. And I 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: picked Curtis Martin to do my forward because that's my 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: brother and he knows everything about me. Right. Well, you 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: know the thing about the book, uh And I'd say 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: it's a testimonial, It's a it's a shout out to 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: UH survival. It's out overcoming the odds, single parenting from 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: a woman's perspective, choosing the right mate, and also more 101 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: importantly the importance of fatherhood. Uh In a young girl's 102 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: life because I have a daughter, she's twenty two, and 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I always, I always have the firm belief that she's 104 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: going to pick a version of me when she gets 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: out there making her selection sess and so I'm very 106 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: conscious in my communications with her. She can talk to 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: me about anything. I will stop when i'm doing if 108 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: she had if she wants my attention, not because I'm 109 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: trying to baby her. I just want to know what's 110 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: through her mind because she may have a question they 111 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: might shape especially when you're young. When you're young, you 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: just grab information that people don't understand that that information 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: that people grabs as a young person will hang can 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: hang through to them for the rest of their lives. 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: And so and that was you, your your your your 116 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: father who's now deceased. You know he was played an 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: important role in shaping you initially. And let's talk about that. 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: That the importance of a male figure in your life 119 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: at an early age. I feel like for me, and 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: I only speak from my experiences, I feel like me 121 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: as a little girl the first man that we will 122 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: love as our father. I feel like that love that 123 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: we get from our father or a father figure is 124 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: so key until a little girl when she grows up, 125 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: because that's the type of man that she's going to 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: search for. So for me, I didn't have that type 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: of father love. So I I searched for what I 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: knew and the and I searched for the love that 129 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I that I got from my father, and it wasn't 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the best love. So I attracted, you know, men who 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: treated me kind of like my father, who were verbally abusive, 132 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: who felt like I wasn't good enough, who I always 133 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: tried to prove to my father that I was going 134 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: to be great and it was just hard. So for me, 135 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: those are the type of men that I chose, you know, 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: my younger age, I chose those type of guys. And 137 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: then I also chose the type of guys that my 138 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: mother dated. And my mother dated abusers, so I watched 139 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: my mother get abused. So I attracted abusers because that's 140 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: what I knew, and so with me, I had to 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: stop the cycle. So there was the time I would 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: never remember. I would never forget it when I got 143 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: beat so bad that my ex guide the abuser, he 144 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: knocks my I looked like the elephant man's little sister, 145 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Like that's why, Yeah, and so for me, just looking 146 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: at my face and just look at my body, just 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: looking how I looked, and I had to lie to 148 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: my son and tell my son that I fell down 149 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: the stairs. And from that point, yeah, from that point, 150 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, I gotta break 151 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: the cycle. Like I don't want to be anything like 152 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: my mother, and I don't want to take anything like 153 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: the guys my mom dated and I And so that 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: right there was a wake up call for me. Well, 155 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's talk about that, because I know 156 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: when he when he abused you, you even called his father, 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: and his father came over and he saw what he 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: had done to you physically, he told him he would 159 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: beat him up if he did that to you again. 160 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: And guess what, he still did it anyway. And so, 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: so what people don't understand about abuse. And I'm not 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: saying I'm an expert expert an expert in abuse. It 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: is a book, But there's a journey. There's years like 164 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: you got kicked out of the house when you were 165 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: stiff team because the fact that the boar friend that 166 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: was dating your mom at the time was physically beating 167 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: her up and your only recourse was to call the police. 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: They arrested him from the mom, like the most domestic situations, 169 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: sided with the man and told him that you had 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: to go, and you were thrown out with no guidance, 171 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: now no support system. If your mom had four sisters, 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: they didn't want anything to do with you. And the 173 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: state of Ohio was not only became a prison for 174 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: you because you didn't know what to go, you have 175 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: no options. You you might as well have been in 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: jail because you didn't have any support and so so 177 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: so it's got the struggling to find yourself and then 178 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: along the way, of course you got pregnant wife. One 179 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: of the second child was a little and so love 180 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: is really interesting when I read about it in your book, 181 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: because there is emotional love and there's physical love, and 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: then there's loving yourself. Let's let's talk about the emotional 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: love and let's talk about the physical love in that order. 184 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Because the emotional love of what you were trying to 185 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: get from your parents and you didn't get it. Yeah, 186 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: the emotional Yeah, the emotional love that I was searching for, Yeah, 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: absolutely right, was the love that I was trying to 188 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: get from my mother and my father and I didn't 189 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: get that and then you can continue. Teresa, I apologize. Yeah. 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: So so so when you when you were searching for 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: that emotional love, it's really hard where you don't get 192 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: that from your your parents, Like I didn't get it, right, 193 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I kept searching for it, and 194 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: it was sad because of the fact that you know 195 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking just just set up. Everybody was talking to 196 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Teresa Cardwell, she's the author of the new book and 197 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: it's you can order pre ordered right now. It's called 198 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: I Once Was Her Um. It would be out officially 199 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: in June June this year. Uh, it's a good book 200 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: to I'll tell people all that now because yeah, she 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: become a New York Times bestseller based on the pre 202 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: ordist boom. You know, I need the system a system 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: and so. But one of the things that when I'm 204 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: when I'm reading the book and we're about to close 205 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: out this first break is that you know, as a man, 206 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: I felt helpless reading your story because as a man, 207 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I would not have done any of these things to 208 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: any woman, not let alone you. So so when you 209 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: when you when these men try to play what you 210 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: consider an important role in your life and you accept 211 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: that they're gonna abuse you. When is the acceptance becomes 212 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: okay to an abusing or do you even know when 213 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: it's okay you just accepted? Can you answer that question? 214 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: You know what from like I speak to my experiences 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: like you really don't know. I didn't know because I 216 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: just accepted it. I accepted it because I felt like 217 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: for me, because I saw that going up, I felt 218 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: like that abuse, the hits and all that stuff. At 219 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: the beginning, I felt like that was his way of 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: showing me that he loved me. You know, I felt 221 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: like that was his way of showing me that he 222 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: loved me. Because in my mind, I felt like, oh 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: my god, because I saw my mother go through it. 224 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I felt like when he hit me and then like 225 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: he would apologize and be like, I only did that 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I want you to know that I 227 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: care for you, I care about you, I love you. 228 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: That's the only way. That's why I did it. So 229 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: that's what happens like for me, That's what I thought, like, 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, at the beginning, that he believes me 231 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: I was young, but he loves me, to hit me, 232 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: to abuse me, he loves me right and to keep 233 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: coming back and supporting. It was the blind slide. But 234 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the sad part about it is that you were young. 235 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: We have women in the thirties for these fifties and sixties, 236 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: they are dealing with these situations. I'm talking to Teresa 237 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: car Well, this beautiful, well put together woman has had 238 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: her share of tears and mountains to cline. Teresa's book 239 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: is a Row Row Look a Row, looking to the 240 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: dark side of her life growing up before fame and fortune, 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and it tells the story of rejection, abandonment, and physical abuse. 242 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more. We're talking about her 243 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: online taste, online boutique, but more important, a testimony of 244 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: overcoming the odds, a testimony of realizing that one has 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: to love themselves first in order to understand the path 246 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: out of the domestic abuse. You have to look in 247 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: the mirror and said, look, I am important. I am 248 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: the person that should be on top of this game. 249 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: If you don't ever admit that to yourself, you will 250 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: always be in a state of abuse. Not by yours, 251 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: not because somebody is giving it to it because you're 252 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: accepting it. We'll be right back with my friend, long time, 253 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: long time, Teresa card Well. Money making conversation will be 254 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: right back. 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That's O T T 288 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: E R dot ai. Hi. This is Rashan McDonald and 289 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversation. They say you can't 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: judge a book by its cover, and the same is 291 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: true for entrepreneur and business mogul. Theresa Cardwell, manager and 292 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: mother to successful rap movie entertainer Shad Moss better known 293 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: as Wow. I met him when he was little by 294 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: Wow and then he dropped the Bible Sad, So you know, 295 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean I probably would say Wow, what's about you know? 296 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: But but you know the beauty of it. Like I said, 297 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: we met in Los Angeles, came into the radio studio, 298 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: and uh, I always felt we had a good relationship 299 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: because I understood I was a challenged manager for then 300 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and dealing with all the ins and out. 301 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: But you are mom manager, which is a different perspective 302 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know as a manager, 303 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: you you you basically I was the father, priest, accountant, uh, motivator, 304 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: crisis guy, and so to have an actual relationship with 305 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: a young man like like Bow and then to send 306 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: him off at a very early age under the under 307 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: the chair of Sugar Knight, under the care and guiding 308 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: some snoop dog talk about that moment and all those moments, 309 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: because you had to be like a biding your fingernails 310 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: on that one. But you have no options, I know, 311 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: you know what. Like for me, like it was it 312 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: was fun I must say it was. It was fun 313 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: um And I recognized early on that you know Boud 314 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: was smart. I regize I recognized his talent, and I 315 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: also it was his dream. You know, it was a dream. 316 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: So what I did was I was like, you know what, 317 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: this is something that he wants to do. This is 318 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: his gift. So as a parent, I wanted to make 319 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: sure he was able to live out his dream. So 320 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: I trusted Snoop. I trusted should. Like the relationship that 321 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I had was shod, you know back in the day, 322 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: like I didn't like. I had a great relationship with 323 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: all of them, and they all looked out for Bout's 324 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: best interest even when I wasn't around, you know. So 325 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: it was all about trust and it was all about God. 326 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: I thought that God was in it. So I feel 327 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: like when God is in it, you feel safe. So 328 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: I my God was in it and it was his gift. 329 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: Well I love it. I loved it. But where Snoop 330 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: comes to you go, you know some I'm really not. 331 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: I really am not a good example or role model 332 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: because I know Snoop and and he Snoop will smoke 333 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: some weed. People understand he the brother is a not 334 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: It's like America has caught up with Snoop, which is 335 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: really funny because he was not gonna change. He confessed 336 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: publicly all the time he did it. And now when 337 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you're seeing that it's being being sold and stores for 338 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: medical reasons or just clear for just for for sale 339 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: with profit reason, you have CBD and all these different uh, 340 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: instead of being brought out because of marijuana usage. It's 341 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: really amazing. But when Snoop I read that part of 342 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: the book, I went that Snoop because one thing about 343 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: Snooper there is a there's a business side to him. 344 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: He's a family man who if everybody's followers life, you 345 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: see he is a family man. Okay, yeah, he is 346 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: a family man. And so he came to you and 347 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and anybody know his whole career how he has been 348 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: a mentor or I want to stand like a pseudo 349 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: father for the community by starting the football league and 350 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: many young men he's helped a get scholarships and in 351 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: college football has been a testament to him. But let's 352 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: go back to you in particular. You know that you know, 353 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: like you said, you you started dating hood dudes and 354 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: then you started dating pro athletes. You know, and youre 355 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: getting into this theme. You went from the hood dudes, 356 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: you know, whore out there, you know, beating, you selling drugs, 357 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: but your lifestyle was uh, you know, it was there. 358 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: You didn't have all benefits of the lifestyle, but at 359 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: least you had the lifestyle. And then you went to 360 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the athletes, which is also a confusing world because you know, 361 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: it's a competitive world because you know they go from 362 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: different city of the city. So let's talk about where 363 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: you came from. Okay, at fifteen, you got kicked out 364 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: of the house. Then you got pregnant. Unfortunately, sadly, you 365 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: lost your first child. Then yeah, about and then you 366 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: start raising him, and then all of a sudden you 367 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: got this young man was taken care of. He's kind 368 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: of like the first far the figure for a bow 369 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: wow and uh and but he was into drugs. And 370 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: then you decided, hey, you know something, I'm gonna do 371 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: it too because I got to pay off this debt. 372 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: And we won't get in any more detail. Read the book. 373 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: It's fantastic how she is showing you when you cornered 374 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: in the state of desperation, you can start crying, but 375 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: have a plan while you're crying. Because one thing that 376 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: I took away from this book is that you if 377 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: you're in a crisis situation, especially in a violent crisis situation, 378 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have a plan B. And that's what you 379 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: say a lot the reason you stayed in so long 380 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: you never had a plan B. When you got that 381 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: plan B, you got out. I got up. Yes, yes, 382 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: that is so true. Um. I I felt like, you know, 383 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: when I got myself in a situation, of course I 384 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a I didn't have a plan, but I 385 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: didn't have a plan b RC. So in order to 386 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: me to get myself out of this situation, I had 387 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: to have a plan. So I stayed in it a 388 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: lot longer, and so I got a plan. So once 389 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: I got a plan, and you know, that's when I 390 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: got myself out. So I went from that, and I 391 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't I don't regret any of 392 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: the things that I went through because that the street 393 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: life made me understand the entertainment world, because it was 394 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of to me back then, it was the same thing. 395 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: It was just one was legal and one was illegal. 396 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: So that's how I looked at I looked at the 397 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: music industry back then, you know, it was it was, 398 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: it was brutal, So I looked at it like Okay, 399 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It was street dudes one and stuff, 400 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was it was the same. So I 401 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: was built for it. You know, when they came at me, 402 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: I was able to, you know, to to stand up 403 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: for myself because of what I had already gone through. 404 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: So I went from that to dating, you know, you know, dating, well, 405 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I went from that to being Mary. And then once 406 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: I got my divorce, that's when I started getting the 407 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: poor athlete you was that you know with with dating 408 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: and athletes, like there's good to bad, you know, come 409 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: along with that. There's a lot, like you said, they're 410 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: gone a lot and not around, but there's a lot 411 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: of parts to that, you know. And and and for me, 412 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: for me, you know, I can't sit here and um 413 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: and really say like bad things about the guy who 414 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: I dated. It was just like when I looked back 415 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: at everything, like all the relationships, you know, I kind 416 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: of like it was the type of girl who was like, 417 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: you know, after going through a marriage and divorced, I 418 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be married or have 419 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: kids or have kids like I had that was made 420 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: up in my mind, like I don't want to be 421 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: married and I don't want to have any children. So 422 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: for me, you know, dating me was like it was 423 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: only it was only gonna go with right because I'm 424 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: making it known that I don't want to be married, 425 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm not having any kids. But you know, it was 426 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: good for me to hear that, because that's taking control 427 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: of your life to me. You know, that's telling people 428 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I can make a decisions, I can trust myself and 429 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be determined by a man's being 430 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: determined by me. And that's what I you know, I 431 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: when I open up, when you when I introduce you 432 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: said your your purpose is for women to discover their 433 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: true worth. And that's what this book is about. I 434 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: once was her. I'm talking to to to to reach 435 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: a Cardwell, it's a as a as a memoir about 436 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: her life before she was managing. Was kind of like 437 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: it slid into when she started when bile Wa became famous, 438 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: A little Bible became famous under that name, a little 439 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: by wall at the time. But it's really about the 440 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: beginning and how I shaped her as a businesswoman because 441 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: it was a tough life that she grew up on. 442 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: It kicked out of the house of fifteen, had a 443 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: baby to think sixteen and that another child which is 444 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: all by out today, and raised him. And and what 445 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: I loved about is that you didn't allow men to 446 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: negatively shape your son's vision because when he had a child, 447 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: speaking of Shad, you made sure that he understood his 448 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: role in that young girl's life. Talk about that. Yes, 449 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: I made sure that when Val had a daughter, because 450 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: of how hard it was for me, it was important 451 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: to me that I instilled in him that you have 452 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: to be a great father, not a good father, but 453 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: a great father because you have a daughter, you know, 454 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: and so and I told him, like, it is so 455 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: important because you will be the first man that she 456 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: will ever fall in love with. The way you teach 457 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: her and the way you treat her and the way 458 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: you raised her and the way you're in her life, 459 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: that's going to set the stand for when she gets older, 460 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: when she starts dating, the standards are gonna be so 461 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: high because she's gonna be like, you know, my father 462 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: treated me like this, my father this, my father that, 463 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, And I told him, like, 464 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: I told him that, like it's important. I mean, I know, 465 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm probably got on his nerves talking about it all 466 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: the time. But I but the relationship that that he 467 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: has with his daughter is priceless. Now if you look 468 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: at their videos and stuff, you can tell that he 469 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: plays a big role in her life and it's all 470 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: about love. You can tell, yeah, it's important, it's important. 471 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: And then our relationship, like you know, like even with 472 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: with my with bal and I like our relationship. The 473 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: things that I talked about what we went through a 474 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: little bit. I touched on that a little bit in 475 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: the book, like how hard that was, you know, um, 476 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, being a mom and being a manager and 477 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to step away to two. It did 478 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: put a strain in our in our relationship. We did 479 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: go through some things, you know, because we want was 480 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: best for our children. And then you know, like me, 481 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: like my fear was I never wanted my son to 482 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: be on drugs. That was a fear of mine, you know, 483 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: and being in the in the industry, like so much 484 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: can happening and drugs are like they give it to 485 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: him like and that was a big I feared that. 486 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I tried to protect him. And you did a good 487 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: job because your little book you said I had to 488 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: want I had to take off my talent manager hand 489 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: and put back on my mama had because sometimes you 490 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: gotta let him know, Look, I brought you into this world. 491 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: I have a different level of passion that dude, well 492 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: he just wants ten percent. That dude just want to 493 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: start our tickets over there, your mama day one, this 494 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: day one, that day one, Mama right here, they want, 495 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: and we'll be here in the end when all this 496 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: is going on the way, I'm still going to be 497 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: there for you. And that's what you that's what you 498 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: stated in the book very clearly that yes, I I 499 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: did accept the role and the professional role as his 500 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: talent manager, but I never lost the mama hat, the 501 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: mom and that was really before we get out. I 502 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: want to I want to put on that entrepreneur hat 503 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: that that you have here Taste Online boutique, tell us 504 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: about that. Yes, so I have an online boutique. It's 505 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: Taste Online. Well it's shop taste online dot com. That 506 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I've had that boutique forever. Like my passion is fashion 507 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: and I'm also an interior designer, so I people don't 508 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: know like that's where I came from. That world, Like 509 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: I've been an inserted designer for for years. So I'm 510 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: back into that full time now. They kind of brought 511 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: me out of retirement and I do a lot of 512 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: entertainers homes, like you know, a lot of athletes is 513 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: like my number one client, So I do a lot 514 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: of those homes in my store. Is you know, I 515 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: have a passion for fashion. I love to see my 516 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: girls feel good and look good in what they wear. Awesome. 517 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: The book. I won't recommend everybody to go out, and 518 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: not just because of it's not book to read about 519 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: the dark side of abused, the drama of being able 520 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: to overcome the odds. It's about a person and a 521 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: relatable person, a young woman who was thrown onto a 522 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: world of darkness. No instructions on how to be a 523 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: young woman, no instructures on how to be a young mom, 524 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: No instructures on how to be a lady, No instructions 525 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: on how to accept and understand why I'm being abused, 526 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: No instructures on how to create a B plan. And 527 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: she did it and it's all it is, is wonderfully 528 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: written book I once towards her. Right now, you can 529 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: go and online and pre ordered the book. The book 530 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: officially comes out of June. 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