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Speaker 3: dot com. Hello everybody, Happy Thursday, Another day and another

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Speaker 3: day that we're at least not yet offensively involved in

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Speaker 3: this war, but all signs not pointing in particularly good direction.

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Speaker 1: And what do we have?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we've got all the latest.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Trump made a bunch of comments yesterday in the

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Speaker 2: and everything else that we can pull for you to

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Speaker 2: give you an indication of where things may be headed.

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Speaker 2: We're also taking a look at d and I Tulci

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Speaker 2: Gabbard and what is being reported as an increasingly strained

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Speaker 2: relationship in the White House. Interesting things to dig into there.

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Speaker 2: Inside of Israel, they are ratcheting up the censorship. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we have a report this morning that an Al Jazeera

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Speaker 2: photographer was detained over daring to show some of the

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Speaker 2: missile damage that Iran was able to inflict. Also, a

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Speaker 2: hospital inside of Israel was struck. And there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other details there too for us to get into.

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Speaker 2: The full Tucker versus Ted Guruz interview is out. We've

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of clips for you. I know you've

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Speaker 2: There's a number war that are, if anything, even more extraordinary,

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Speaker 2: So will break those down for you. I think you'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy watching all of that. I certainly did. We also

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Speaker 2: have pulled the latest polling to try to read the

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Speaker 2: tea leaves about how people feel about potential offensive war

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Speaker 2: like US getting directly directly involved in terms of war

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Speaker 2: with Iran. So some very contradictory indications there. So Mari

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Speaker 2: about what people should know about Iran and how a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Trump making a bunch of different statements, some

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Speaker 5: They should have made the deal. I had a great

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Speaker 5: deal for them. They should have made that deal. Sixty

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Speaker 5: But it's a shame that wasn't could have been done

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Speaker 5: easy with And it's interesting because I did ask Tuckler.

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Speaker 5: But it's really not okay with him. Therefore you may

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Speaker 5: a little time off. It's not We're not looking for

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Speaker 5: you know what the victory is no nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 6: It's Iran and their prozeas who threaten to retaliate against

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Speaker 6: you and your team by killing you guys or taking

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Speaker 6: out sold Well, they haven't done that, and that would

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Speaker 6: be a terrible thing for them to do, not because

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Speaker 6: of me. If they did that, they would be obliterated.

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Speaker 5: That'd be the end. I've left instructions.

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Speaker 1: It's about fans and the positive joint.

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Speaker 5: I could expect anybody. They even suggested they come to

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Speaker 5: Difference, but they've suggested that they come to the White House.

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Speaker 5: That's you know, courageous, but you know it's like not

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Speaker 2: So he says there he wants total and complete victory.

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Speaker 2: And we could actually jump ahead to A two some

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Speaker 2: of the latest reporting, and guys, I want you to

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Speaker 2: because all of this is, you know, incredibly strategic.

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Speaker 4: Is it the truth? Is it not the truth? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: But this is an information that they the White House

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Speaker 2: President Trump told senior aides late Tuesday he approved of

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Speaker 2: So that is the latest in terms of White House statements.

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Speaker 3: We do know the Iranian Foreign Minister has been in

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Speaker 3: somewhat intermittent communication with Steve Whitcoff to what end, again

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Speaker 3: very unclear. There was two planes that took off yesterday

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Speaker 3: basically every single day that the sun rises on Tehran.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, maybe, but at the same time, you

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Speaker 3: and let's just put you know this whole Trump has

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Speaker 3: let's listen very carefully to the words that he is saying.

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Speaker 3: He's saying clearly, I want unconditional surrender. Unconditional surrender to

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump means say he said put your hands up

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Speaker 3: nuclear facilities. That's his version of unconditional surrender, not even

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Speaker 3: saying put your hands up and say, okay, fine, we

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Speaker 3: This is not in any way empathetic on a personal

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Speaker 1: The Iranian regime.

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Speaker 3: Participated in a nuclear deal with Obama that was thrown out.

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Speaker 3: Then they participated, maybe in good faith, maybe not, but

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Speaker 3: as we know right now, the ise Iranian nuclear program

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Speaker 3: So put yourself in that situation where you're being asked

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Speaker 1: These are all Israeli military action at this.

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Speaker 1: There has It's probably never made more.

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Speaker 3: Sense for Iran to sprint to a nuclear weapon then

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Speaker 3: right now, because that would be the only credible deterrence

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Speaker 3: So you put all that together, and I mean, I

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Speaker 3: continue to think I do not see a way out

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: It would genuinely have to be a true Black Swan event.

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Speaker 3: And then we also have to think about the Iranians.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, if you did, you know,

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Speaker 3: accept so called unconditional surrender, I mean, what would stop

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Speaker 1: You have no credit.

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Speaker 3: Thereat, You're You're just a rump state, and actually you're

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Speaker 3: right for takeover from within because you know what segment

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Speaker 3: of the Iranian military or hardliners would even accept.

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Speaker 1: That level of humiliation on a Nash level.

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Speaker 3: You know, Trump says I don't want them to have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want to emphasize something because I think

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Speaker 2: So let's be really clear what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 2: They're using nuclear weapon development as a pretext. That is

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Speaker 2: The Israelis have been pretty upfront about it. All the

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Speaker 2: Number one and number two, they out and out say it.

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Speaker 4: That's where we are yes.

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Speaker 3: And look on the IAEA front, there are actually really

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Speaker 1: It makes absolutely zero sense.

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Speaker 3: was driving over to the CIA and basically forcing them

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Speaker 3: to make their own clear. But they had a document, right,

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Speaker 3: they had a document which was it was it BS.

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Speaker 3: But they had Colon Powell present his case to the world.

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Speaker 3: They had this fake intelligence that they presented to the

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Speaker 3: United States Congress. And look, you know, you have to

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Speaker 3: give them credit. One of the reasons again they survive

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Speaker 3: is because the entire Democratic and Republican establishment bought into

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Speaker 3: the lie of the Rocky nuclear program. Here, they don't

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Speaker 3: even you know, they don't even try. They're just like

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Speaker 3: trust us.

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Speaker 1: Right. Trump literally said, I don't care what she said.

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Speaker 3: That's extraordinary about me about Dusty character intelligence. I mean

451
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Speaker 3: here again, you know, Bush held up his forgetting the

452
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Speaker 3: guy's name is George something, the CIA director at the time,

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Speaker 3: George Tennant.

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Speaker 4: That's the same.

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Speaker 1: And he's dragging his ass.

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Speaker 3: Out before Congress and before the media and Condoleeza Rise.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had all of this fake intel again,

458
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Speaker 3: but at the time it seemed real to a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, and that was part of the legitimacy of this.

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Speaker 3: In this case, it's just trust Donald Trump. Trust the

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Speaker 3: word of Benjamin Nettan Yahoo, and when you look at

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Speaker 3: the entire public record, it is complete bullshit.

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Speaker 1: And that is the.

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Speaker 3: Part where you know, you put together the Israeli action here,

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Speaker 3: you put together you know the very basis of this attack. Oh,

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Speaker 3: we have to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: This is honestly worse than Iraq. I really believe that.

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Speaker 2: Well, because here's the other thing is, and they know this,

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Speaker 2: this is part of the calculus. The actions that have

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Speaker 2: been taken create a logic that makes it much more

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Speaker 2: likely that they do race towards the bomb. The reason

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Speaker 2: these attacks launched when they did is not because the

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Speaker 2: diplomacy wasn't working. It's because the diplomacy was working because

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Speaker 2: it did have a chance at succeeding. And there's no

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Speaker 2: way that the Hawks could allow that because they want

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Speaker 2: this war. So that's why we are where we are.

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Speaker 2: I think that we have that's a good transition, actually

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Speaker 2: to talk about Tulsi Gabbard and whatever's going on inside

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Speaker 2: the White House with her. Let's go and put a

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Speaker 2: seven up on the screen. We've got some reporting from

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Speaker 2: supposedly inside of the administration here from Politico inside the

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Speaker 2: clashes between Trump and Gabbard, let me read.

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Speaker 4: The first portion. They say.

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Speaker 2: As President Trump privately molled joining Israel's campaign against her

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Speaker 2: on this month, one member of his cabinet sent what

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Speaker 2: he viewed as an audacious attempt to steer him in

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Speaker 2: the opposite direction. At five thirty am on June tenth,

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Speaker 2: dn I Tulci Gabbard tweeted a cryptic three minute video

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Speaker 2: warning that political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear

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Speaker 2: and tensions between nuclear powers and the world is on

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Speaker 2: the brink of nuclear annihilation. Trump saw the unauthorized video

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Speaker 2: and became incensed, Clint complaining to associates with the White

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Speaker 2: House she had spoken out of turn. According to three

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Speaker 2: people familiar, two of them inside the administration, all granted

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Speaker 2: anonymity to describe sensitive dynamics. So Emily and I actually

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Speaker 2: were trying to get to covering this video she put

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Speaker 2: out because it was kind of like, what is going

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Speaker 2: on here? It was kind of on a left field,

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Speaker 2: and she had just visited Hiroshima, and she opens the

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Speaker 2: video with that, and then she goes on to talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, the potential disaster of nuclear conflict. I think

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Speaker 2: the assumption was that she was probably talking about Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and Russia. And maybe she was talking about Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 2: It's still not entirely clear, but the Trump administration effectively

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Speaker 2: after this video came out that he took as being

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Speaker 2: a shot at him for contemplating getting involved in a

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Speaker 2: war with Iran. They kind of iced her out. She

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Speaker 2: was not involved in the big Camp David discussions, and apparently,

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Speaker 2: you know, she's not being included in many of the

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Speaker 2: most significant meetings at this point. So just to give

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Speaker 2: you a flavor of what this was, let's play a

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Speaker 2: portion of this video that she had released.

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Speaker 8: I recently visited Hiroshima in Japan and stood at the

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Speaker 8: epicenter of a city that remains scarred by the unimaginable

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Speaker 8: horror caused by a single nuclear bomb dropped in nineteen

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Speaker 8: forty five, eighty years ago. It's hard for me to

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Speaker 8: find the words to express what I saw, the stories

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Speaker 8: that I heard, the haunting sadness that still remains. This

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Speaker 8: is an experience that will stay with me forever. This

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Speaker 8: attack obliterated the city, killed over three hundred thousand people,

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Speaker 8: many dying instantly, while others died from severe burns. Injuries, radiation,

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Speaker 8: sickness and cancer that set in. In the following months

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Speaker 8: and years. Nagasaki suffered the same fate. Homes, schools, families

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Speaker 8: all gone in a flash. The survivors the Hibo Kusha,

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Speaker 8: they carried the pain of extreme burns, radiation, sickness, and

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Speaker 8: loss for decades. Yet this one bomb that caused so

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Speaker 8: much destruction in Hiroshima was tiny compared to today's nuclear bombs.

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Speaker 8: The bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima had a yield

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Speaker 8: of just fifteen kilotons of T and T, whereas today's

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Speaker 8: nuclear warheads range in size from one hundred kilotons to

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Speaker 8: over one megaton. A single nuclear weapon today could.

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Speaker 1: Kill millions in just minutes. Just one of these nuclear.

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Speaker 8: Bombs would vaporize everything at its core, people, buildings, life itself.

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Speaker 8: This isn't some made up science fiction story. This is

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Speaker 8: the reality of what's at stake, what we are facing now.

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Speaker 8: Because as we stand here today, closer to the brink

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Speaker 8: of nuclear annihilation than ever before, political elite and warmongers

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Speaker 8: are carelessly fomenting fear and tensions between nuclear powers. Perhaps

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Speaker 8: it's because they are confident that they will have access

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Speaker 8: to nuclear shelters for themselves and for their families that

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Speaker 8: regular people won't have access to.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, Sager, what did you make of that video

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Speaker 2: at the time, and what are you reading into what's

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 3: In a newborn world when that came out, it's in retrospect,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty Look, I don't know, Yeah, maybe she was

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Speaker 3: talking about Russia. Here's the other thing, you know, for

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Speaker 3: people who we're not familiar with Tulsi. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: interviewed her multiple times. Tulsi always talked about the reason

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Speaker 3: why she wanted to run for president was because of

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Speaker 3: that false missile alert about an incoming ballistic missile from

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Speaker 3: North Korea. Why and how impactful that was to her

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Speaker 3: and to her constituent.

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Speaker 1: So look, I'll take her at a word.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she definitely changed a lot of her positions,

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Speaker 3: but you do have to say, like one of the

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Speaker 3: main reasons she's ever in politics was because of her

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Speaker 3: experience in Iraq and in Afghanistan. I think just in

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Speaker 3: Iraq as a combat medic and seeing the cost of war.

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Speaker 1: That's something that she.

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Speaker 3: Talked about over and over again. And you know, I

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Speaker 3: want to take her at her word for that. So

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Speaker 3: I assume that's part of the reason that she put

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Speaker 3: out that video. I wish I'd gotten to go to Hiroshima.

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Speaker 3: And you know, look, you can even think that it

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Speaker 3: was a justified decision to drop the atomic bomb, but

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I think it's always important

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Speaker 3: to remember is exactly what she said about the yield

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Speaker 3: on that weapon. By the way, I've been looking at

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Speaker 3: the yield on what this bomb would be the four

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Speaker 3: doh facility, the massive massive ordnance penetrator. It's roughly half

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Speaker 3: the size of what was dropped on her. Ohia, I

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Speaker 3: think it's a six kilo time. It's a different Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not for civilian purposes, and it's targeted to go down,

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Speaker 3: but you're going to drop it over and over again.

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Speaker 3: Just the sheer size of what that explosion is like,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the power of destruction, and this is

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Speaker 3: a conventional, non nuclear device.

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Speaker 1: That's what's part of so insane about it.

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Speaker 3: But really, what I what I come back to is

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Speaker 3: that it is clear, now guys, let's go and put

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Speaker 3: eight nine on the screen, is that Tulsi is really

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Speaker 3: being iced out by a lot of senior members of

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration. Her Senate Intelligence briefing was postponed yesterday

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Speaker 3: amid these Iran tensions. She was not included at all

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Speaker 3: in that Camp David meeting where apparently that Camp David

587
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Speaker 3: meeting was about the Israeli imminent strike on Iran. At

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Speaker 3: Tucker called that out on Steve Bannon's show, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: you know why this She wasn't there, and she's like,

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Speaker 3: because it's a regime change operation. And apparently John rack

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Speaker 3: If the CIA director, is somebody who's much more comfortable

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Speaker 3: with that. And this is this is how it all works, guys.

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Speaker 3: Is that now because she works for Trump, she has

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Speaker 3: to keep her mouth shut. The White House, by the way,

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Speaker 3: just yesterday put out a bullshit video actually editing her testimony, showing.

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Speaker 4: A cheap fake.

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Speaker 1: It was a cheap actually, it was a cheap.

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Speaker 3: Fake where they cheap faked it to make it look

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Speaker 3: like she was warning Iron was close to a nuclear

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Speaker 3: Weapon's completely not true. Look, the historical record lives forever.

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Speaker 3: Sorry it's twenty twenty five. We can go and watch

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Speaker 3: it for ourselves and say, between the sign statement and

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Speaker 3: her statement before Congress, it could not be more clear.

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Speaker 3: I saw JD trying to pour. He's like, a lot

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Speaker 3: has changed since March. I'm like, yeah, what, go ahead

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Speaker 3: and sholl it tell us tell us again with the

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Speaker 3: raffle they told us to buy.

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Speaker 4: What's changed? A lot has changed it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, with the rack they did lie to us,

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Speaker 3: but they tried to tell us. They said this, oh,

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Speaker 3: yellow cake, uranium, this is the progress. This is the

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Speaker 3: estimated amount of chemical and biological stock. Tell me, now,

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Speaker 3: let my Congress vote yes or no, and I will

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Speaker 3: call his ass before he does. Okay, all of us

615
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Speaker 3: should be able to call our congressman and all that

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Speaker 3: and actually hold them accountable for their vote in the future.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, that's why they're not doing it

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Speaker 3: before Congress because they would actually have to tell the

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Speaker 3: world and the United States again, there's no cold and Powell,

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Speaker 3: who's are you? I don't even know where are you

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Speaker 3: an ambassador right now? Is at least dephonic?

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Speaker 2: Oh, because remember they decided not to with her account remember.

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Speaker 1: Whatever there somebody can correct me about who it is.

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Speaker 1: Weal there you go wealth All right, So all right,

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Speaker 1: mister Waltz.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a liar and all this, but fine,

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Speaker 3: you know, go convene a meeting of the United States

628
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Speaker 3: so u N Security Council lay out the evidence at

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Speaker 3: Leigh Stevenson before the Cuban missile crisis. Remember he had

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Speaker 3: the slides and he called out the Russian ambassador in

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Speaker 3: front of his face. He said, look, mister ambassador, are

632
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Speaker 3: these nuclear warheads or not? You know this this is

633
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Speaker 3: real life, and they want to launch a war on

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Speaker 3: this pretext. So, I mean, people can tell I'm going crazy,

635
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Speaker 3: but this is why it's like, genuinely, the Iraq invasion

636
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Speaker 3: was more justified than this one. And what they're also

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Speaker 3: trying to downplay this is like in Jurassic Park when

638
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: they realize the velociraptors are smart, is that they're like

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00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: the smart ones are like no, no, no, it's not about

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Speaker 3: regime change.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just a tip.

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Speaker 3: It's just taking out the four dough facilities, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but what happens after that?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like and then then what happens after this.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's what we want to have zaab on

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Speaker 2: because he's laid out in great detail how this could

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Speaker 2: all unfold, because yeah, that's the cope now that you're

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Speaker 2: hearing from people's like, oh, it's it's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine. Like, it's not gonna be any

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Speaker 2: big deal. So limited we drop some balls on four dough,

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Speaker 2: We'll get in and out, no big deal. You guys

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Speaker 2: are all just worrying.

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Speaker 4: I hope you're right.

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Speaker 2: I hope it ends up being no big deal. I

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Speaker 2: really hope that that's the case. I would love to

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Speaker 2: be wrong, but if you aren't taking this seriously of

657
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Speaker 2: what could unfold here, like I just I don't know

658
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: what planet you're living in. I don't know what history

659
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: you've studied. I don't know what events you've lived through.

660
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Speaker 2: Because every time we've engaged, either in the full regime

661
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Speaker 2: change and occupy model with the rock or in the

662
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: serie model or the Libya model, like take your pick,

663
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: tell me which one worked out well? Tell me which

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Speaker 2: has been good for the US, Which has been good

665
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Speaker 2: for the region, which has been good for the world,

666
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Speaker 2: which has been good for humanity?

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Speaker 4: Tell me which one? Because everyone has been.

668
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Speaker 2: A total and complete, horrific, monstrous disaster. And that is

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Speaker 2: where we are right now today, with so many people

670
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Speaker 2: once again going through the same exercises, accepting even sinner

671
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Speaker 2: propaganda as reality. It's truly mind blowing. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Tulsi did come out and sort of cover for Trump.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, we're in line in terms of

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Speaker 2: the intelligence. He's right about everything he's saying. And if

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Speaker 2: we could jump back up to A one B because

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Speaker 2: we have a new he came to me tears in

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Speaker 2: his eyes. That just drop dropped. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: the other piece. Is like, even as you have Tucker

679
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Speaker 2: and Bannon and some margin Taylor Green who are sounding

680
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: the alarm, Bannon just told the Financial Times listen, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: whatever Trump does, we're going to be good with it.

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00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: And mag is going to be good with it. And

683
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Speaker 4: he's right.

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Speaker 2: And that's why Trump also doesn't care what they have

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Speaker 2: to say, because he knows at the end of the day,

686
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Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna come up with whatever justifications they

687
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Speaker 2: need to.

688
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Speaker 4: They're gonna go along.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna say he must have intelligence that we don't

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Speaker 2: have access to, so we just have to trust him. Already,

691
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Speaker 2: you've got Charlie Kirk saying, oh, thank god, we've got Trump.

692
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Speaker 2: This is we have to trust Trump. Trump is made

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Speaker 2: for this moment. So let's go ahead and take a

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Speaker 2: listen to A one b. Trump, saying that Tucker called

695
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Speaker 2: him to apologize for his comments going quote unquote too far.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 2: Do you see the Tucker Girls and Senator Ted Cruz interview.

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Speaker 8: It seems like this issue on whether or not the

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Speaker 8: United States should strike is kind of dividing a lot

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Speaker 8: of your supporters.

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Speaker 5: Now, my supporters are for me. My supporters are America first.

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Speaker 5: They make America great again. My supporters don't want to

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Speaker 5: see you around have a nuclear weapon. Tucker's nice guy.

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Speaker 5: He called and apologized the other day because he thought

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Speaker 5: he said things that were going too strong, and I

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Speaker 5: appreciated that. And Ted Cruiz is a nice guy. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's been with me for a whole time. I'd say

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Speaker 5: once the race was over, he's been with me ever since. Right, but.

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Speaker 1: Very simple.

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Speaker 5: If they think that it's okay for Aron to have

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Speaker 5: a nuclear weapon, then they should oppose me. But nobody

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Speaker 5: thinks it's okay. People that don't want I don't want

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Speaker 5: to fight either. I'm not looking to fight. But if

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Speaker 5: it's a choice between fighting and them having a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 5: you have to do what you have to do.

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Speaker 2: So, as we've covered here, Tucker went out of his

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Speaker 2: way to not directly criticize Trump. I think the most

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Speaker 2: aggressive thing he said was that Trump is complicit, which

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 4: In a newsletter.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: And so when Trump came out and called Tucker kookie

723
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Speaker 2: and went after him a couple of times in a

724
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Speaker 2: single day, that was a message to them all like

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Speaker 2: you better get in line. And so now you've got

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Speaker 2: ban and saying, oh, we're going to be with him

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Speaker 2: no matter what. You've got Charlie Kirk saying things he's saying.

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, where is she on that Warpower's resolution?

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Speaker 2: She hasn't signed on. There is one Republican who was

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Speaker 2: signed on to the War Powers Resolution, and that is

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Speaker 2: Thomas Massey, who is already.

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Speaker 4: At odds with MAGA. So that's where you are.

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Speaker 2: I mean Trump put that out basically, it was like, okay,

734
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Speaker 2: it's time to button the knee. And there's also reporting

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Speaker 2: that calls were made from the White House dirocolated Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk to say you need to temper down the criticism

737
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Speaker 2: of this, and he fell in line.

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Speaker 3: And look, that's all going to fall in line. I mean,

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Speaker 3: actually I got Tucker, I'm not so sure. Given we'll

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit now about this interview, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's complete bullshit by the way, this whole apology or whatever.

742
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Speaker 3: But part of the reason that Trump does it is

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Speaker 3: basically to assert his own dominance over MAGA. And I'll

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Speaker 3: save some of this for polling and all of that

745
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Speaker 3: as to where things will go.

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Speaker 1: But things are grim. Things are very grim. It's not good.

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Speaker 3: We have basically a full fledged lie being perpetrated from

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Speaker 3: the top of the US and Israeli government, and all

749
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Speaker 3: of it points in the single direction of a military

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Speaker 3: operation and regimed. I was also thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 3: even if they do get to that whole, to that

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Speaker 3: point of a deal, I mean, they're going to hold

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Speaker 3: up their hands and say, oh, we've saved you know,

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Speaker 3: the world from that, We've saved us from the brink

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Speaker 3: of war. But I just it's not true, like they

756
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Speaker 3: created this horrific crisis.

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Speaker 1: There's been real costs, but there's.

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Speaker 3: Almost no way that the actual end of this would

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Speaker 3: be today given what has now happened. There will be

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Speaker 3: a resolution at one point. It will either be regime

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Speaker 3: change in Iran, it will be any you know, an

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Speaker 3: Israeli attack, it will be a US attack or something

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Speaker 3: like that of some kind. But like what we have

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Speaker 3: now unleashed, we will be living with now for years

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Speaker 3: and years to come. The only question is a gradation

766
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Speaker 3: and how bad you know they can continue to be.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the next part here, and this is

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Speaker 3: about some of the stuff going on inside of Israel.

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Speaker 3: And look, a lot of this is very counter narrative

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Speaker 3: and it's definitely countered to a lot of what you're

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Speaker 3: going to hear on national television. Let's start with the

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Speaker 3: first one because this is very important to me. Let's

773
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Speaker 3: put it up there on the screen. Israel is now

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Speaker 3: running low on defensive interceptors. So this is, according to

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Speaker 3: US officials, quote, raising concerns about the country's ability to

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Speaker 3: counter long range ballistic missiles. Now this actually fits with

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Speaker 3: something we're about to show you, which were some strikes

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Speaker 3: by the Iranian on downtown Tel Aviv or it's in

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Speaker 3: populated areas of Israel in the middle of the day. Now,

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Speaker 3: why does this matter? And actually put this out on Twitter, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: You know there's been a lot.

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Speaker 3: Made on cable news about the you know, stupendous Israeli

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Speaker 3: operation against the Iranians and the incompetence of the Iranian military.

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Speaker 3: You can't deny that when you have guys in a

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Speaker 3: single bunker and your whole command and control structure is

786
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Speaker 3: getting taken out. Yeah, that's pretty embarrassing. Not even embarrassing,

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Speaker 3: it's just basic incompetence at that level. Their ability to

788
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: basically be penetrated by Mosad and all that humiliating. But

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Speaker 3: what does it say about Israel that they launch an

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Speaker 3: operation and less than a week later they are already

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Speaker 3: running out of interceptors. And so what does that say, Well,

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Speaker 3: it says you know who does have some interceptors?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Me actually, and me and the rest of you are

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Speaker 3: fellow US citizens. So the plan was basically, we can't

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Speaker 3: handle this on our own. They knew it from day one. Remember,

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Speaker 3: they're running low on interceptors, and according to them, they've

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Speaker 3: taken out two thirds of ballistic missile launchers. So what

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Speaker 3: if they didn't take them out, they would have run

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Speaker 3: out three days ago. And so you're actually already seeing

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Speaker 3: panic inside of Israel because they know they can look

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Speaker 3: at the math and say, hey, this is not good.

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Speaker 3: And already were watching blistic missiles hitting various different targets.

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Speaker 3: So with all that said, guys, can we put some

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Speaker 3: of this up here on the screen and just show people,

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Speaker 3: you know, this is some of the latest that's coming

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Speaker 3: out of Israel. I mean, these are crazy ass images.

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Speaker 3: This is in the middle of the day, and this

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Speaker 3: is a major hospital. It's called the Soroka Hospital, which

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Speaker 3: according to the Israelis, it's in southern Israel, direct hit

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Speaker 3: by Iranian missiles. Apparently it's services over a million people.

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Speaker 3: We don't even have some of the casualty figures and

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Speaker 3: all that that has come out, but I mean, look

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Speaker 3: at this, in the middle of a city. You have

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Speaker 3: a molistic missile that's come down in the middle and

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Speaker 3: it's basically leveling this entire thing. These are crazy images,

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Speaker 3: and these are in the middle of the day, not

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Speaker 3: even launch at night. It just goes to show that

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Speaker 3: the more that Iran, even with its very limited capacity,

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Speaker 3: is able to fire, they are beginning to get through.

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Speaker 3: The Israelis claim they still got about one third of

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Speaker 3: them left. They're trying to take them out because they

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Speaker 3: have air superiority there. But look, you know, the Iranians,

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Speaker 3: they may be dumb, but they're not that dumb. One

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Speaker 3: of the things that the Iranians and the North Koreans

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Speaker 3: have done is they have these mobile launchers which they

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Speaker 3: just drive all around constantly and have you know, camouflage

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Speaker 3: and all that specifically to maintain you know, strikeability even

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Speaker 3: if they do lose their air defense. So this is very,

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Speaker 3: very devastating inside of.

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Speaker 2: Israel, you know, suddenly, Sager, people seem to care again

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Speaker 2: about hospitals being used as military targets. Suddenly now that

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Speaker 2: now that Israel had a hospital hit, which I condemn.

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Speaker 2: I don't support that at all. I don't think hospitals

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Speaker 2: are legitimate targets. But suddenly people are concerned about that again.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I wish that would get applied across

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Speaker 2: the board. And here's the thing, israelis this is the

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Speaker 2: world you authored, congratulations. This is the world you offered,

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Speaker 2: authored where any civilian target is totally legitimate, where there

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Speaker 2: are no no rules, no norms, nothing that's out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: That is the world that you created. So it's I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's horrific, but that's that's where we are. So you know,

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Speaker 2: save me until I see a single one of you

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Speaker 2: condemn the multiple attacks on the entire medical system in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I completely agree, and I'll just

847
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Speaker 3: say falls a little bit on deaf ears when I

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Speaker 3: hear about civilian casualties and targeting civilian facilities like.

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Speaker 4: Hospitals, Well, how many civilians they have killed in Ron?

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Speaker 3: Is? There is there even a hospital standing left in Gaza?

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Speaker 1: Whatever somebody can.

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Speaker 4: Go and can change that are undamaged.

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Speaker 3: For me, what I do know is that there of course,

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Speaker 3: though using this is a propaganda can pa. The Israeli

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Speaker 3: Foreign Minister came out today and said that they're going

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Speaker 3: to begin, you know, ramping up even more targets on

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Speaker 3: Iranian facilities and retaliation for this attack on the hospital.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you do see some of that going on,

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Speaker 3: but at the very least, I mean, the fact that

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Speaker 3: they can't keep one of their largest hospitals safe from

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Speaker 3: an Iranian ballistic missile is crazy. That is just not

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Speaker 3: what was offered up. And keep in mind that a

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Speaker 3: lot of what we're able to show you is very

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Speaker 3: limited because of some censorship. Now let's also get though,

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Speaker 3: you know, to some of the other things that are

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Speaker 3: going on inside of Israel, and this is always you know,

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Speaker 3: very a whitewashed by the United States and the Western press.

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Speaker 1: But let's put B four pleas up on the screen.

869
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Speaker 3: The Israeli economy is really suffering right now, and also

870
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: a lot of foreigners who are inside of the country

871
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: are doing their absolute best to get out.

872
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: So here Birthright Israel.

873
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 3: Apparently the trip has collapsed as some twenty eight hundred

874
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: participants we're boarding cruise ships from Israel to Cyprus and

875
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 3: in some cases under the protection of these Rael really navy,

876
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: basically trying to get the hell out of there. Keep

877
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: in mind remember that there's been a lot of shutdown

878
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: of civilian aviation inside of the country, and you know,

879
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: looking at stuff like this, like, let's put B five

880
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: as well up on the screen, just to show you

881
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: what's being broadcast. You can see here a huge banner

882
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: for those who are listening is just mister President finished

883
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: the job. A massive banner across one of I think

884
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: it's a train station which has Donald Trump's face and

885
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: a major appeal here to Americans.

886
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: But also to him in particular.

887
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, to Trump in particular. Let's keep this in mind

888
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: as well.

889
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: You know, is really society in life right now is

890
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: pretty crazy.

891
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean let's think about this.

892
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: You know, basically every single night and sometimes during the day,

893
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: their phones are going off about ballistic incoming miss out.

894
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: They're basically living in bomb shelters and coming up and out.

895
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: You know, variously society is completely and totally disrupted. Just

896
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: imagine you can't run an economy like that or run

897
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 3: a society only for a very very short period of time.

898
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: Also has revealed some pretty you know, some social schisms.

899
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: Is that a polite way of saying it about some

900
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: of the things that are going on.

901
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Let's go and put this.

902
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: Up there on the screen for example, B two please,

903
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: and just to show everybody some of the video you

904
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: saw some videos that were coming out of Israel, actually

905
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: of settlers and others who were locking out other settlers

906
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: of shelters. Here she says, we're going soon. There was

907
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: going to be a siren. We went to the next

908
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: doorhouse to a bomb shelter. We were not allowed in.

909
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: They had closed the doors and closed the parking lot.

910
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: We were knocking on the door. They came out and said,

911
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: we don't have to let you in. We have no space.

912
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: So really like dystopian scene, right, And.

913
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: I believe that woman is actually a Ukrainian to a refugee. Yeah,

914
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: it was locked out because she's not Jewish. And the Palestinian,

915
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: the Palestinians who live inside of Israel and our citizens

916
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: of Israel. I mean, first of all, there's just vastly

917
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: less infrastructure in predominantly Palestinian areas, vastly fewer bomb shelters.

918
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: And then you can put V three up on the

919
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: screen just so you know, this isn't just like a

920
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: couple tiktoks. There's reporting about the way that there is

921
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: a systematic discrimination.

922
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 4: It's an apartheid society. There are some sixty five.

923
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Laws on the books that discriminate explicitly against I'm not

924
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: even talking about the West Banka Gaza. I'm talking about

925
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: the Palestinian citizens of Israel. There are sixty five laws

926
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: on the books that discriminate explicitly against them. And then

927
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: you have the endemic social discrimination of not for you,

928
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: Israeli shelters exclude Palestinians as bombs rain down. So yeah,

929
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: the ugly underbelly of Israeli society really being exposed in

930
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: this moment of crisis.

931
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you can see it very clearly for yourself.

932
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 3: And actually there have been some Palestinians who have been

933
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: you know, who have been targeted in Israel, and apparently

934
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: they didn't have as many bomb shelters. Finally, let's put

935
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 3: b stix up on the screen. And this is another

936
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: very important point. This is only what we're able to

937
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: show you. Keep in mind with all these Western journalists

938
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: who inside of Israel, they're going to get their asses

939
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: kicked out if they report too much. So the IDF

940
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: has officially updated its restrictions on reporting on any missile

941
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: drone impact sites.

942
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: Quote.

943
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: Any person who prints or publishes printed matter or a

944
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: publication regarding the location of a strike hit by the

945
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: enemy or war materiel will be submit to the military

946
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: censor for approval. So military censors are running everything that

947
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: we are seeing out of the country. The only even

948
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: reason we know about this hospital is because they want

949
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: to publicize it as being hit. We have no idea

950
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: some of the other stuff that's actually been hit inside

951
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: of the country. We have to rely on some open

952
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: source reporting and already that policy has been put into effect.

953
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: Put B seven please up on the screen.

954
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: Israel has detained a phot photographer for Al Jazeera after

955
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: police say that he revealed the exact location of one

956
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: of Iranian missile strikes. Remember what they did to my

957
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: friend Trey Yanks, who had the temerity to do his

958
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: job and show that the Israeli Pentagon, which was located

959
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: in the middle of downtown Tel Aviv, was hit by

960
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: an Iranian missile and they freaked out at him on camera,

961
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: and then multiple members of the Israeli police or the

962
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: IDF and others started targeting him, saying that he was

963
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: doing the enemy's battle damage assessment for him. So just

964
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: keep that in mind in terms of what's the stuff

965
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: that we are Look, go.

966
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Look at the replies to when he posts stuff on Twitter,

967
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: and you'll see the reaction to him daring to be

968
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: a journalist.

969
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they hate him, they hate his guts. So

970
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: that's what's going on inside of the country. It's chaos.

971
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: It's absolute chaos. And you know, they're projecting a vision

972
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: of you know, of we're winning the war.

973
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: And all of this.

974
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: But this is always what I say is, look, it's

975
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: only been less than a week. This is what if

976
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: this goes on for a month? What if this goes

977
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: on four months? Well it's not going to because Big

978
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: Daddy the United States is probably going to come and

979
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: solve all of this for you. But this, really, in

980
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: my opinion, you know, shatters the image of like this

981
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: country which can stand alone. It's like, nothing could be

982
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: further from the truth. The fact that you can't even

983
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: go a week without running out of interceptors, even after

984
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 3: you pulled off these spectacular, you know, sabotage operations inside

985
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: of Iran, like this is not Look, I'm not going

986
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: to downplay the IDF's combat strength and all that on

987
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: the ground, but there's a level of technological sophistication and

988
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: of independence of the country which is being sold right

989
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: now to the American public which is very unfortunate, and

990
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: it just could not be further from the truth.

991
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, and not all can't last a week, right, And

992
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: that also exposes the fact that at any time, any

993
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: American president, whether it is Joe Biden or Donald Trump,

994
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: can come in and say we're done here, You're done

995
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: with the genocide. You're not starting a war with Iran

996
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: because they are dependent on us.

997
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 4: We shipped what like hundreds of hell fire missiles.

998
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: But in advance of this attack, yes, don't play dumb,

999
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: we wanted this.

1000
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: We are involved in this this is our war.

1001
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: They cannot do anything without our support, and if we

1002
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: decided we were going to pull that support.

1003
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: It would end, it would be over.

1004
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: So you know, there's often an attempt to be like, oh, well,

1005
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: they're a sovereign nation and that we can't just tell

1006
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: them what. Yes you can, No, you actually can, because

1007
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 2: without us they're out of interceptor missiles.

1008
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: In a week apparently, and I mean.

1009
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Of course they are, because they've picked a fight with

1010
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: every neighbor around them.

1011
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: Practically, you know.

1012
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: Actually these are just Iranians. That's the fun. The thing

1013
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: is about the the high level interceptors. You know, hamask

1014
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: got things that you need to use for your intercept

1015
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: that's iron dome, that's like pedestrian stuff.

1016
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: This is Look, this is the thing. Whenever you have.

1017
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: A relatively sophisticated military, yes even one that is pretty embarrassing,

1018
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: you know, like Iran, you still have some military capacity

1019
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: and it shows you up. It actually does show you

1020
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: how incredible the United States and British and like NATO

1021
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: armed forces are and that other level of capacity that

1022
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: they have. But Israel is always held up. It's like

1023
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 3: somehow equivalent to that. It literally could not be further from,

1024
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 3: you know, from the truth. So keep it in mind.

1025
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: You know, an American president literally can end this at

1026
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: any time. This is just like Ukraine, This is just

1027
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: like any of these other literal client states.

1028
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they owe their entire exist to us.

1029
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: And it's pretty shocking, you know, both the censorship and

1030
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: the level of capacity that they have after just less

1031
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: than a week well war, I can't get over it.

1032
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: I think that parallel with Ukraine is an important one

1033
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: to draw out because in the same way that the

1034
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: right in particular understands correctly so Ukraine as a proxy

1035
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: war US versus Russia. This is a proxy war course

1036
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: right now, Israel versus Iran. And it's even more direct

1037
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: just given our overwhelming yearly budget of supporting Israel over

1038
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: many decades, and so you know, even if we're not

1039
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: yet directly involved in offensive capacity, make no mistake about it,

1040
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: this is our war. We are right now engaged in

1041
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: a proxy war versus Iran. And the only question is

1042
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: whether or not we sort of you know, fully engage

1043
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: offensively and don't just do it through our proxy client state.