1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the six d J 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Bucky back together, and we're gonna have a lot of 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: ground to cover in this episode. Today're gonna look at 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: a little a little more at the Colts and what's 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: going on in their situation. Gonna look back at last 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: night's game between the Ravens and the Saints. But Buck, 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: let's start things off here. Excited to bringing a guest 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: from the New England Patriots. Kyle Dugger, who was a 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: favorite of ours going into the draft, has had a 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: really really outstanding young career there with the Patriots. Kyle, Uh, 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: come on and hear me. I appreciate you taking some 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: time for us today. UM, I'd be curious to know, 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: first of all, just how the body's feeling right now. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Is we're kind of in that midpoint of the season. 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: It's felt better. Um, it actually feels pretty good right now. Um, 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: coming off on anchors, recovering well, and I'm feeling good 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: going into the about week. You know, Cal, A lot 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: of the conversation around you coming in was going from 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: a small school jump into the National Football League. How 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: long would it take you to adjust and acclimate to 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: the NFL game and so maybe the complexities of being 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: in the pro system. How is that adjustment for you 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: going from the nore Rhyne to join the New England Patriots. Um, 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: it definitely was. It wasn't It wasn't super easy. It 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: was at the end of the day, is still football, 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: But there was definitely something that I just hadn't seen yet, Um, 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: that I had to you know, learn and experience. So 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: I think the coaches, especially the veterans, made it super 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: made it better for me and help me transition a 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: lot better. But yeah, it was. It was not too crazy, 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: but wasn't too too easy either. So one of the 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: things we hear a lot when we talked to guys 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: who played for the Patriots and working with William mc guinnis, 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, for a long time here always impressed by 36 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: the detail of the coaching that you get with the 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. That was that was there an eye 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: opening moment for you when you when you had a 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: moment where you're just like, man, they pay attention to 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: every single last thing up here. Yeah, so for me 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: it was it was day one when uh, they were 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: they were critiquing me almost as much as I was 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: critiquing myself. I'm heavy on my health in and they were. 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: They were right up there with me, and I'm like, man, 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm running out of stuff to say about myself and 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: they kind of getting me. So that's when I kind 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: of realized, like, yeah, they're they're on everything. You know. 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: It's funny because I hear so much of that and 49 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: talking to with him again us it's not only the 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: details when it comes to the teaching. I hear about 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the legendary conditioning tests and the amount of running that 52 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: you guys do. Is that true? Do you guys really 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: run a lot? Is that's something that has just kind 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: of become the urban legend. No, that's a hundred percent true. Uh. 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: We run around when we squat. That's that's what we do. 56 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: We we condition So there's no lives, man. So I 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: love that. Man. I we're kind of dispelling rumors and 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: uh and confirming things. So while we're on that thing, 59 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm going back through my notes and looking at it. 60 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: When you were coming out, Kyle, and I hadn't here 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: on the background stuff I did on you that you 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: were told me you were a five six freshman in 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: high school and and seeing you at the combine when 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: you're almost six one two seventeen pounds, I was finding 65 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: that hard to believe. Can you confirm that? Were you 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: really five ft six? Because as a freshman in high school? Yes, 67 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I was, I was tiny five six by the buck 68 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: thirty five. It's true. When did the gross for happen? 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: When did that take place? Uh so really from my 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: sophomore year too to probably my freshman in college. Um, 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: it just kind of all happened throughout that time and 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: the way it kind of came with it. So yeah, 73 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: just over that for year of course or whatever you 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: know of late, you guys have been playing really good 75 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: defense and you know you're doing a great job of 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: like keeping the ball in front. You guys get after it. 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: And so when it comes from a philosophical standpoint, what 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: are the things that your coaches are always talking about 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: that's important when it comes to playing great defense in 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League. So it's starting with communication. For one, 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: pre snap, post snap. Um, you can never communicate over 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: communicate on out there. Second, I say, just doing our job, 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, trusting the man next to us, you know, 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: not getting kind of you know, out of our a 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: little greedy or maybe peeking, you know, peeking in the 86 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: window where we're not supposed to be, you know, just 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of relying on our man you know, doing our 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: jobs so that other people can make plays off of us. 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: M So just everybody kind of doing they want to 90 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: level for sure? How key is that? When you look 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: at teams you say, okay, you know it's a collection 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: of talented individuals, but it just seems like the Patriots forever, 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: you guys have played great team defense. And there's something 94 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: about being selfless and not trying to do too much. 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: How do you balance that between kind of your natural 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: playmaker instincts but knowing, hey, I've got my assignment. We 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: need all do our individual jobs. But that's what it 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: comes down to, being selfless. Um, you know, you have 99 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the sacrifice for the team. It's as simple as that. 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: And so once we once you kind of realize that, 101 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: you know that's the most important thing, you kind of 102 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: just you know, you do it, and you know everybody 103 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: else is doing it for you as well. And if 104 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: everybody does it, you know, after everybody's going to eat eventually, 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: everybody's going to kind of share some success, so it 106 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: kind of comes around for us. So, you know, on 107 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the outside, cal you guys, the Pages have kind of 108 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: been viewed as the evil Empire for because of the 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: success that they've had over the last two decades. When 110 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: you step into that building and you know the team 111 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: has been successful, do you feel the standards. Are the 112 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: standards impressed upon you or you just kind of know 113 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: that I need to pick up my play because winning 114 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: is the expectation. They did one for so long. You know, 115 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: you gotta pick up your play. You don't want to 116 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: be that guy to to drop it. You know, you know, 117 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: you know where the bar is and you definitely don't 118 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: want to be that guy to kind of let it 119 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: waver fall. So you know, it's always kind of you know, 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna give to make sure that they're not that guy, 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: So you make sure you're not that guy. Will Kyle, 122 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: what have you seen inside this division this year? Um? 123 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: You look at it. Everybody your division's kind a winning record. 124 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Uh what what is it about the a f C 125 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: East that's made it one of the toughest divisions in football? 126 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Right now? Um? You know, I honestly can't say I 127 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: haven't paid a whole lot of attention to the other teams. 128 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: But one thing that I can't really ignore it is 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: just the offense UM in general from you know, Miami 130 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: but of have really strong offenses. So you know that 131 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: in itself always makes the team, you know, that much 132 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: harder to compete against. And so that I start with that, 133 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: I say, okay, I mean you kind of lead me 134 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: to a great point because you talked about Buffalo in 135 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: their offense and their offenses led by a quarterback and 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and we're kind of seeing, uh, maybe a 137 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: revolution at the quarterback position where we're seeing more of 138 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: these athletic playmakers step in at quarterback and really challenge 139 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: the defense not only as pastors but as runners. From 140 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint, what's the challenge in defending a dual 141 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: threat playmaker at quarterback? Um, So it starts with being 142 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: in man coverage. It starts with containing the quarterback once 143 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: he gets out of that pocket. Um, you have to 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: you know, plaster your defender, but the offensive player. But 145 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: you also see a quarterback running around, you know, have 146 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the potential to you know, get it first down or 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: big yard. So it kind of gets difficult once he 148 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: gets out of that outside of that pocket and also 149 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: has the option to you know, continue looking down, build 150 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: and make play too. So it's just kind of, you know, 151 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: hard to contain it all. I'm gonna ask you to 152 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: put your scouting hat here, uh, Kyle, Bucky and myself 153 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: when our time scout in the league, we saw the 154 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: league really start to trend towards this positionless players. You 155 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: see it on offense with guys that can kind of 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: morph between you know, being a slot receiver, you can 157 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: line up in the backfield, you can do different things 158 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: with a guy like Deebo Samuel. I think there's players 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: like yourself who can line up in so many different 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: spots and do so many different things defensively. How much 161 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: of an advantage is it to have guys that can 162 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: perform in multiple positions and multiple roles. I think it's huge. 163 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: It just it just makes it that much harder for 164 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the offense. At the end of the day. Um, you know, 165 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: you you put guys in multiple positions, you can't really 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to game plan for him, I feel like, so, 167 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it just makes it that much harder, uh, 168 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks to kind of get a get a 169 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: jump for it, see a tendency um where this guy 170 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be and things like that just makes it 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: difficult for them. You know, Kyl so DJ and former 172 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: scouts and we're always looking to improve the craft, and 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: so we can talk about all the physical things, but 174 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: from an intangible standpoint, if you were scouting, if you 175 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: wanted someone to be your teammate, what would be the 176 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: number one trade that you would look for? So it 177 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: will be the off the field work hapits so film study, 178 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: how they learn from from failure if they make the 179 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: same mistake twice, and then their ability to you know, 180 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: take care of their body and handle adversity would be 181 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: the things I would look for the scout. But I 182 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: definitely start with film study. Having that love for the game. 183 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: I love that, Kyle. One of the things we've noticed 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: and talking to guys as they're coming into the draft 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: every year, is that guys that tend to have a 186 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: routine um that that that that translates well to the 187 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: next level. Have you developed a nice routine on a 188 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: weekly basis in terms of balance and you know, taking 189 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: care of your body as you mentioned, as well as 190 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: is studying what you need to study. Yeah, I definitely 191 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: have um it changes, you know, with different obstacles, but 192 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I definitely have developed a nice little routine that can 193 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: can keep me where I need to be physically and mentally. 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: Last reason for me so calum, having been in the 195 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: locker rooms and having been kind of like the guy 196 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: that was the veteran um given advice. What is the 197 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: best piece of advice that you've gotten from a veteran 198 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: player that has helped you early in your career. So 199 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: that's I have to go back to probably my rookie year, 200 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: just the time to kind of feel that cup up 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: out the field. So before the season starts, um, spending 202 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: time with family and kind of making sure that you're 203 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: ready to take on the full season and be locked 204 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: in for seventeen eighteen weeks or twenty plus weeks. Um. 205 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: So definitely that off season giving that cup up, resting 206 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: your your mentor and getting ready for a long season. 207 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: All Right, this is the last one from me, and 208 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: this is a very serious question that we need a 209 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: serious answer. You went to Lenore, Ryan, I went to 210 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Appalachian State. Bucky went to u n C. So we 211 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: know that area and I know, uh Leonora's famous for furniture. 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: They make furniture. I think I bought a little couch 213 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: there for my from my dorm at one point in time. So, 214 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: favorite piece of furniture in the Dugger household? Is it 215 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: a chair? Is it a sofa? What are we working 216 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: with here? What's your go to piece of furniture? Oh? Damn, 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I had to say probably probably the I mean the couch. 218 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: I guess Actually, you know, I'm gonna say, uh, we 219 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: got some bean bag cheers. They can get it. They 220 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: can get pretty compay on a law on day. So 221 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: I had to be back cheers. Yeah, being back chairs, 222 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: they're they're functional. You can play video games and bean 223 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: back chairs you can watch TV. I mean, you get 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: some film work done. That's a versatile. It's an underrated 225 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: piece of furniture. There, Kyle. That's a great answer. Man. Hey, 226 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: it's been it's been great to visit with you. It's 227 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,359 Speaker 1: been fun to watch your young career blossom. Um, just 228 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: just keep doing what you're doing. Man, we're fans, we 229 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: continue to be so just keep doing your thing. Man, 230 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thank you. I appreciate you guys. There 231 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: you go, Buck, there's Kyle Dugger, the new England Patriots. 232 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: It's always fun to see guys are having success early 233 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: in their career and it's not a it's not a coincidence. 234 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Those guys have a have a pattern, they have a 235 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: workflow that works for them, and uh man, he's off 236 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to a great start, especially when you consider the jump 237 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: he made from Lenora Ryan right to the new England Patriots. 238 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Buck Yeah, no, DJ Like, it's really fascinating because when 239 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: you go and you dig down the fact that he 240 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: went from a small school jump into the Patriots starting lineup, 241 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: was able to play a variety of spots and has 242 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: now become one of the anchor people on their defense. 243 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: I think it speaks volumes to not only his ability 244 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: to assimilate to the NFL game, but some of the 245 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: things that he desires in the teammate. The intangible qualities, 246 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the work ethic, the resilience, the focus, and maybe the 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: seriousness when it comes to really approaching his profession. I 248 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: think you can feel that, and I think those intangibles 249 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: have allowed him to kind of jump into this lineup 250 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: and made plays for the Patriots no doubt. All Right, 251 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, We're gonna come back 252 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: there's more to dig into on the Colts uh situation. 253 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Frank Right is no longer the coach there. I have 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: some thoughts on the quarterback situation there and where this 255 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: team can go forward. I want to get your thoughts 256 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: on it as well. Buck. We'll get to that right 257 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: after this. NFL Plus is the league's new exclusive video 258 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: streaming subscription service. NFL Plus has your game day covered 259 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: with live local and primetime regular season and post season 260 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: games right on your phone or tablet. NFL Plus is 261 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: available in the NFL app and at NFL dot Com. 262 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: Subscription plan started just four ninety nine per month. Fans 263 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: can visit Plus dot NFL dot com and sign up 264 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: for a free trial of NFL Plus today. So, d J, 265 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: you gotta love it that another tar Heel is now 266 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: joining the ranks as an NFL head coach. Jeff Saturday 267 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: was named interim head coach of the Indianapolis Coats. He 268 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: joins Arthur Smith as a another former tar Heel who 269 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: is leading a team now. This circumstance is a little 270 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: different than the circumstance there. Arthur Smith inherited because he's 271 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: a four time coach. He had a chance to pick 272 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: his squad and do his stuff. Jeff Saturday is jumping 273 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: in in the middle of the season and we can 274 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: talk about all the things that are wrong with the Coats, 275 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the running game not getting going. But 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the number one issue that they have is who should 277 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: be the quarterback. So when you look at the coach 278 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: right now and the first decision you have to make 279 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: is the quarterback, which way you leaning? How do you 280 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: fix this? Well, if you're if you're looking at trying 281 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: to win games, um, I would think you'd probably go 282 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: to Nick Foles here as your quarterback. You know, Matt Ryan, 283 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a situation there with the contract. You 284 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: don't want to get him hurt and be on the 285 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: hook for some money next year. I understand that. I 286 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: think Tony Dunge you actually talked about that a little bit. 287 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it was on with Dan Patrick and kind 288 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: of brought that up. Um. So I get if you 289 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: if you want to move away from Matt Ryan, but 290 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger's hasn't shown you a lot of promise there. 291 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you give him one more game, buck, But 292 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: if you're really trying to win football games, I think 293 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: Nick Foles gives you the best chance to do that. Um, 294 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: everybody kind of forgets that he's on the roster there, 295 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: but that would be one thing I would keep an 296 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: eye on. But I don't know. I mean, some people 297 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: are are throwing it out there, are they? You know, 298 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: they're not going to all out to win games, trying 299 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: to position themselves in the draft. They need a quarterback. 300 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Obviously they've failed to do that over the last you know, well, gosh, 301 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I'll way back to Andrew Lux since they've gone got 302 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback there in the first round. So, um, that 303 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: could be Uh, maybe there's something to that, I guess, 304 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: But to me, I want to kind of move it 305 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: beyond this year. I know we've got to play out 306 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: this string, but I have a thought for you here. 307 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. But we've talked on 308 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: here before about a team kind of committing to a 309 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: college offense, and we've seen the Ravens do it to 310 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: a degree. Um, you know, Lamar has continue to grow 311 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: and evolve as a pastor. We'll get to this performance 312 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: against the Saints later today. Um, but we've talked about 313 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: just running the quarterback, being ultra aggressive with that. I 314 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: could make a case that the Colts roster the way 315 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: it's constructed with some pretty good pieces on defense, with 316 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: an offensive line is better built to run block With 317 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: arguably the best running back in the league and Jonathan Taylor, 318 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: maybe they should be one of those teams to finally 319 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: do that, go out and get one or two athletic 320 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the draft. Maybe you take one in the 321 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: in the first round and then one in the fourth round, 322 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: and you get guys that can really really run and 323 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you commit to this, you know, this new lifestyle, so 324 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: to speak of offense, they might be a candidate to 325 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: go that out. You know, DJ if that's going to 326 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: be the route, they can do it right there with 327 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback that they have and Saam Ellinger, I think 328 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: people forgot at Texas, this guy had over thirty rushing touchdowns. 329 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: He was a monster when it came to red zone efficiency, 330 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: being able to run the ball in and so if 331 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: you're going to do it, there are a couple of 332 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: things that happen when we do it. One, the offensive line. 333 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: You can mask some of the offensive lines deficiencies by 334 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: beginning to utilize read option plays, meaning they don't have 335 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: to block everyone on the line of scrimmage. The most 336 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: problemact defender, you can read him and so now it 337 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: kind of levels the playing field if you're having a 338 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: problem at the line of scrimmage. The other thing it 339 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: does is when your quarterback runs the football, it really 340 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: creates lanes for your running back. So we know that 341 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is the top five running back in this game, 342 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: but when you don't have another option in the backfield, 343 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: all eyes are on him, or if you're getting to 344 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: run the quarterback and now evens up the numbers, it 345 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: eliminates the plus one advantage that defenders have because now 346 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: you have to account for the quarterback and it creates 347 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: bigger lanes for Jonathan Taylor. So when you think about 348 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and what they've been able to do with, 349 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: I would say unheralded running backs, but because all the 350 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: attention is on Lamar Jackson, though other guys are able 351 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to get off. I think if you're the Indianapolis Coats 352 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: and you're looking at the personnel that you have, you 353 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: don't have an established number one receiver, you have an 354 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: offensive line that's supposed to be the strength, and you 355 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: have a bell cow running back. This team has to 356 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: be a run centric team. Going to collegiate routes certainly 357 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: has to be something that you entertained. Even if you 358 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: don't go full board in, you have to begin to 359 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: do some of these things because that's what your young 360 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: quarterback did well. It makes sense to at least begin 361 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: the process and then evaluate how you want to go 362 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: forward at the end of the season when it comes 363 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: to the draft. Yeah, the one thing I would just 364 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: mention on that though, you know, I would say Sam Ellnger, 365 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: it's not a direct comparison, but remember Tebow had all 366 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: the rushing success in college. Tebow was a high four seven. 367 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Sam Elenger is a four eight to I'm saying, like, 368 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: you go out in the draft, you look at somebody 369 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: like like Tyler Huntley, who's a backup for Lamar Jackson, 370 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: who can really go. Um, you look at Malik Hunningham, 371 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: somebody from Louisville. I don't know when you gotta take 372 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Malie Cunningham fourth round. Um. I mean you're talking about guys. 373 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: You've probably got legit four four speed, like you could 374 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: get a real real speed merchant. Look at the way 375 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is running. Obviously Justin's is going to be 376 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: further along as a pastor than what you'll be able 377 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: to get out of an athletic quarterback in this draft. 378 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, like, go get some real 379 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: juice in the backfield where you've got to account for 380 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: him and he can really go if he does keep 381 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: the ball well. I mean, look, they all have to lose. 382 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: Look at the division rival. I wonder what the Tennessee 383 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: Titans would look like on Sunday Night against the Kanna 384 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: Ce Chiefs if they kind of put in some of 385 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: that stuff for Malik Willis to run. You know, it's 386 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: one thing for him to hand it off and run 387 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: bootlegs and those things. It's another to say, hey, Darry 388 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: Kenry Malie Willis, we're going to use you guys as 389 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: if it was a Saturday night and this was the 390 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: college football game of the week. And so when you 391 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: started doing those things, it certainly changes the dynamic of 392 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: your team. The thing would be in this draft, if 393 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: you talk about what we're saying, double up, who is 394 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: the guy that you take in the first round to 395 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: be that that main guy that does some of this stuff, 396 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: and then finding to back up because you do have 397 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: to go all in if you're going to take this approach. 398 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: This could legion approach where you have two guys that 399 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: can do it and you're not worried about running the quarterback. 400 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Finding the first one is key, and then the second 401 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: one needs to have dynamic running skills to compliment with 402 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: the first one does if he's out. Think about our 403 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: buddy Bruce Feldman and we can have him on and 404 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: ask him about this too. But Anthony Richardson at Florida, right, 405 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson six four, two thirty eight pounds and he 406 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: ran a four four in the spring there at Florida, 407 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: So now he's not a perfect pastor. But then start 408 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: thinking about the wide receivers they have, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, 409 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: big physical guys. You absolutely can help you in the 410 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: run game. You've got the physical back Quinton Nelson malling 411 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: people at the point of attack in the run game. 412 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: Now you put a four four athlete back there, there's 413 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: two and thirty eight pounds. We can grow and evolve 414 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: in the passing game over time, but I think right 415 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: now you get him, you can take another one late 416 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: in the draft to kind of be able to fill 417 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: in a few were to miss a game or two 418 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of look at the way 419 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: this team is built right now. I think they could 420 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: make that type of a decision. That would be pretty 421 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Yeah, it would be fun to watching. DJ. 422 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Let's look at how the league is trending. If you're 423 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: not paying attention, uh, the running game is coming back 424 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: to prominence in the National Football League. We're seeing teams 425 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: commit to the running game, particularly if they don't have 426 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: a top five a top seven quarterback. All of those 427 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: other teams are going to the running game. We have 428 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: seen the Chicago Bears with Justin Fields, and Justin Fields 429 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: was drafted to be a franchise quarterback, but since they've 430 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: decided four weeks ago to run the quarterback one, he's 431 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: had eight plus jards in three of the four games 432 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: the Bears as a team have rushed for over two 433 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards and four straight games. Only 434 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy says Pittsburgh Stillers have done it. And 435 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: the Bears are now playing competitive games. They're giving people fits. 436 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: They're in the game into the fourth quarter. They started 437 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: to egg big pieces around them and kill Harry comes over. 438 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: You bring Chase Claypool bigger guys who expandished rig zone, 439 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: but who also excelled at blocking on the perimeter. It 440 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: is a we call a lifestyle change when you do that. 441 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: You're right if the indian Apolis Colts are gonna do that, 442 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: they already have the wide receivers to be able to 443 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: do that. And that was making the commitment and finding 444 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback who has the ability to run the ball 445 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: and give you that dynamic playmaking ability as a runner 446 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: with the big arm talent to push the ball down 447 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: the field, because that's how it has to complement power 448 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: running game, vertical passing game. Think about Gillnnie Woods, you 449 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: know who. We saw a couple of All Star games, 450 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: six seven two unify, three pound tight end who was 451 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end at Oklahoma State before he transferred 452 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: to Virginia and showed what he can do catching the football. 453 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: But now big physical wide receivers, enormous physical tight end. 454 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: You've got an offensive line that's better built to run block. 455 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: You've got the best running back in the league behind you. 456 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: Now you you go out there, you get Anthony Richardson 457 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: and your drafting league Cunningham. A little bit later, I 458 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: think we just kind of we might have just stumbled 459 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: onto something here for the Indianapolis Colts to kind of 460 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: create an identity in a brand of offensive foot ball 461 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: to compliment what is already. It's a good defense. They've 462 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: got some good pieces in place on that side of 463 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, they absolutely have a good defense, and 464 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: they're good enough on defense to win games. When you 465 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: look at the way the team has been playing, the 466 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: defense has been playing really, really solid, and they missed 467 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: some of their pieces. So then you get shag Unter back, 468 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: you get some of your pieces back defensively, if you 469 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: can hold your own offensively, that's where you're lacking. And 470 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: so if you're not able to generate points through the 471 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: air did what you want to be able to do 472 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: is control the clock, push the game into the fourth 473 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: quarter by pounding on people. And what you're hoping is 474 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: the humanstive effect of dealing with the body blows of 475 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: a very physical running game with multiple runners coming at 476 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: you allows you to win games late in the year. 477 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: And so everyone has to be comfortable with that. The 478 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: head coach has to be comfortable coaching tight games in 479 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter because when you run the football the 480 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: way that we are suggesting that you need to run it, 481 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a bunch of tight games. You also 482 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: need to have a nails kicker, because when you run 483 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the ball so much, anytime you get to the five, 484 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: you want to have a magic kick and they can 485 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: give you those three points because points of valued at 486 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: a premium, particularly when you're a team that runs it 487 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: as much as we're talking about running. The team that 488 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: we're describing here and what we want the Indianapolis Colts 489 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: to do is something that another team is already doing, 490 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and that team is the Baltimore Ravens. They had a 491 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: big win over the Saints on the road last night. 492 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into that game, give you our thoughts 493 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: on it. We'll do that right after this break, all right, Buck, 494 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: Let's jump into the game we saw last night. The 495 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. They go on the road and they handle 496 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: the Saints to thirteen, a game that just didn't really 497 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: feel it didn't even really feel competitive, to be honest 498 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: with you, even though the quote the score was somewhat close, 499 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: I just felt like the Ravens were kind of in 500 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: control of this game for a long time. Just your 501 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from watching that one last night I think 502 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: it was that that the Baltimore Ravens were in control 503 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: and that the Baltimore Ravens are kind of back to 504 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: playing to their identity. It's funny because when you hear 505 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: people talk about this game and Lamar Jackson, uh, the 506 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: sense was that he had a spec tacnical game, and 507 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a solid game, but I 508 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: didn't think it was anything extraordinary. He had eighty yards 509 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: on the ground, had a couple of touchdown pass and 510 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: did did his little thing in terms of moving around. 511 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: But I think the big thing is the Baltimore Ravens 512 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: were in control of the game because it seemed like 513 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: they had the ball at the entire game, running it, 514 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: taking the time, milking the cloud, beating them up. It 515 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: felt like they just physically beat up the New Orleans 516 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Saints over time. And to me, the surprise was this 517 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: was the same team that was coming off a big 518 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: win against the Raiders. They had shed the Raiders out, 519 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: they seemingly had some momentum in their corner. But the 520 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens took that right away and they physically beat 521 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: them up. And so now you look at the Ravens team, 522 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: they're sitting at six and three and appears to be 523 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: finding their way. This is a team that's dangerous. They 524 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: are dangerous team because they can run the ball like 525 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: they run it. And as long as you have number eight, 526 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: who's capable of going off at any moment, it gives 527 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: you a chance to knock off some of the title 528 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: contenders that in that conference. Can we talk about who 529 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the real winner in this game was, though? The Philadelphia 530 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles buck have the Saints pick. You know, if 531 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: the season ended today, that would be the sixth over 532 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: all pick in the upcoming draft. I mean, how howe 533 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Roseman does it? Again? I mean being able to make 534 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: a trade like that, identify a team at a Saint's 535 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: team that's been good for so long and they kind 536 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: of under the impression that these picks, if you're gonna 537 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: trade picks, are gonna be in the twenties and that's 538 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: kind of how you value them. And then how we 539 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: identified a team that was gonna be on the decline, 540 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: and sure enough it looks like they could secure a 541 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: top ten pick. You go out, if you go out 542 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl, which the Eagles have the 543 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the only undefeated record in the National Football League right now, 544 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: You've got a chance to go winning Super Bowl and 545 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: then still have a top ten pick. Uh. That's a 546 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: heck of a year there for the Philadelphia Eagles. So 547 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: that was my takeaway watching that game. I'm with you 548 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: on lamar um Any think was a spectacular game, but 549 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: no Mark Andrews out there, and once they have a lead, 550 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know there's a better, you know, 551 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: four minute offense team in the league right now than 552 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: than the way the Baltimore Ravens are equipped. And they 553 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: did a nice job going out there and just closing 554 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: out that ball game. DJ. They are basically like playing 555 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: against Wisconsin and uv A in the uh Marsh Madness 556 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: in the n C Double A Tournament, Like you down eight, 557 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: but it feels like you're down twenty points because they're 558 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: playing half court basketball. They drained the clock and it 559 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: just seems like you just don't have an opportunity to 560 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: catch up. I will say Kenyan Drake has been a 561 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: nice addition for him. He's giving them some steady play 562 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: running the ball in between the tackles. Uh. You talk 563 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: about a team that rushed for almost two hundred yards 564 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight rushing yards on the ground. Lamar Jackson 565 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: did a lot of the heavy lifting, but you can 566 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: see with this offense can't continue to evolve. And when 567 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: they're able to get all of their pieces back, meaning 568 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is able to read uh into the lineup, 569 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: you have Isaiah likely kind of growing and evolving, kind 570 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: of growing into a role as a secondary tied end. 571 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: You have the Sean Jackson who's still trying to get 572 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: up to speed, but he might be the vertical threat 573 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: that this offense needs. You can see that they might 574 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: be playing better football down the stretch, and no one 575 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: wants to see them on the ledger. If you get 576 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: into the tournament and this team is in, it's just 577 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: a different team to prepare for, and it's hard to 578 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: want to down scenario to get ready for a team 579 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: that plays like this, no doubt, big win for the Ravens. 580 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: And to kind of wrap it up here on the 581 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: draft thought, if you look at by the way, a 582 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: great great website here, tank it Thon always kind of 583 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: updates this in real time. I believe we do the 584 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: same thing on NFL dot com, so I should promote 585 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: our our website as well. Um, but they they show 586 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: you where teams would be picking right now. So the 587 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Eagles would have six and thirty two. You look at 588 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, you know, and that Russell Wilson trade 589 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: they obviously part with all those picks. Seattle, who's having 590 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: a great year. That pick would be the eleventh overall 591 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: pick they got in the Russell Wilson trade. The Rams, 592 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: they've traded first round picks forever. The Lions own that 593 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: pick in the Stafford trade, that would be the twelfth 594 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: pick would be going to Detroit, So Detroit would have 595 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: picked twelve and pick five. And then Houston right now, 596 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: who has the Cleveland Brown's first round pick in the 597 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade, that would be picked thirteen, which would 598 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: complement the number one overall pick they have as well. 599 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be a lot of teams with multiple 600 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: first round pick something we can dig in as we 601 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: get closer to the spring. Want to encourage everybody to 602 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: watch the Falcons and Panthers on Thursday Night Football. That 603 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: is eight fifteen Eastern time on Prime Video. Also that 604 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: is available on NFL Plus. I want to thank our 605 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: guests today Kyle Dugger, appreciate him stopping by visiting with 606 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: us UH fun show today, Buck, I want to encourage 607 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: everybody again all the Move the Sticks content NFL's YouTube, 608 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: NFL dot com, the NFL channel in the NFL app 609 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: you can find it all right there, and we will 610 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: be back with one more episode this week, probably look 611 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more at some of these college kids 612 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the draft and see if we can't fix the Carolina Panthers, 613 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that one. Appreciate you 614 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: guys hanging with us and listening to Move the Sticks