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Speaker 1: Say Wednesday Chili Wednesday, Chili and dreary and hallowing right

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Speaker 1: around the corner and feels like football weather, does it not?

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Speaker 1: It does absolutely. I mean I need a little pick

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Speaker 1: and I gotta get rolling because of a little dreary.

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Speaker 1: You got the shorts on there, your short just the

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Speaker 1: shorts of sweatshirts. That's a yanser look there, if ever

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Speaker 1: there was one, that's a big demove for me. And

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Speaker 1: you'll see that also. I'm you've seen it all for years,

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Speaker 1: but that'll go well into December and January. Through the snow.

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Speaker 1: I get some looks when I'm shoveling snow outside in

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Speaker 1: would get looks for me as well. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers getting their first official practice in today. Um,

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Speaker 1: they of course practice Monday. They had, you know, extra

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Speaker 1: practice last week. Ben Roethlisberger limited today, did do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of stuff, more more than he usually does

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday because I was the time off. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram with a groin injury, was limited. Guess would

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Speaker 1: it be what else? Yeah? Right, the groins are the

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Speaker 1: cool thing to have nowadays. Chase Claypool was limited with

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Speaker 1: a hamstring. That's something he's been dealing with now for

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Speaker 1: a while. I think it was a bigger deal the

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Speaker 1: last couple of games he's played than people want to realize.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been in the doghouse with someone Steeler Nation,

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Speaker 1: and you need to realize that these guys are fighting

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Speaker 1: through some stuff. I mean doesn't excuse it, but you

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Speaker 1: know it is noteworthy. And then Anthony McFarland who was

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Speaker 1: activated today off of the three to the fifty three

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Speaker 1: week or ago. Now, Um, to make room. That's what's

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Speaker 1: the what's the ramifications for these guys coming back on.

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Speaker 1: Carlos Davis went on injured reserve. I know he's been

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Speaker 1: fighting something and he's had that knee issue. Um. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to practice here in the last couple of days. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and apparently was not right. Then he decided to shut

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Speaker 1: him down. That's at least three weeks for him on

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Speaker 1: the show. Uh. They also, because of that, then signed

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, Chris Layton. He was a seventh round

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Speaker 1: draft pick of the of the Giants a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about him, and that's the first

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Speaker 1: I heard that. So I'm just reacting, you know, or

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Speaker 1: pumped around. He's been with the he's been with the Giants,

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Speaker 1: he's been with the Bills, he's been with the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: More of a nose tackle body type, uh, like six four,

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Speaker 1: than that. Okay. Um. And released was Jalen Samuel's off

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Speaker 1: the practice squad? Yeah, I did hear that, And I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of shocked he's hung around this long, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, and actually honestly watching practice last week

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Speaker 1: and like, is he still on the team. I don't

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Speaker 1: practice squad, especially since it's sixteen guys now on the

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Speaker 1: last year, just that if you're his style of player,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not killing the front office for drafting him

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Speaker 1: I mean, those gimmicky guys, whether it's him or dre Archer,

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Speaker 1: to me, Matt, that some people still want to Compare

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Speaker 1: obviously the Matt Canada jet sweeps, motion things like that

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Speaker 1: it a defensive back because now you've you've taken a

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Speaker 1: And frankly, you could go empty with Harris and McFarland

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Speaker 1: zonn you know. Whereas if it's McLeod mclauds not getting

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna split him out wide and

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Speaker 1: If it's a Harress traditional run, He's practiced it. He's thicker,

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Speaker 1: the bench for one series more game than he has,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just let McFarland be a traditional running back.

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Speaker 1: And it is a little bit of a a thunder and

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Speaker 1: whatever kind of pairing you want to think about. It's

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Speaker 1: Harris and McFarland's obviously different. So I think there's value

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Speaker 1: which I think is important. And Tomlin shown this over history.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so I accept it. That's what he is

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Speaker 1: don't have him out there pass blocking on this that

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the other teams happy when he comes

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Speaker 1: But the first time he's not on the field in

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Speaker 1: certain situations, I immediately because we do a live streaming

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Speaker 1: thing where it's just you know, people can comment, and

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Speaker 1: I put comments in there as well as the game

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Speaker 1: is going on, and the moment one of those star

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Speaker 1: can't really have it both ways both ways. You're right,

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Speaker 1: as Andre's been true. I do feel like they were

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Speaker 1: making conscious efforts these last couple of games. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: should lighten them up on Harris, like it's it's obviously

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Speaker 1: even if they don't love snow or blage. Let's cut

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Speaker 1: snaps a game that he's not You're not risking. However,

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Speaker 1: did you haven't seen the tweet I sent out today?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't watch other people's tweets,

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Speaker 1: but the whole running backs don't matter a conversation and

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Speaker 1: it gets overblown and I'd like to pick on people

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Speaker 1: about se Kwon Barkley that the Giants this year, when

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, when he's in the in the lineup, they

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Speaker 1: average eight point two yards per pass. When he isn't,

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Speaker 1: When he's not, it's a whole yard less at three

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Speaker 1: point five. Like that's what these guys do, act on

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Speaker 1: great NFL running back. Harris is better. Yeah, And Harris

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Speaker 1: is better. The running backs do make a difference. You

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Speaker 1: finding He's the same as sake Kwan Barkley. He's the

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Speaker 1: same as Nag Harris without question. And you'd like to

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Speaker 1: but it comes at a cost. You just can't dedicate

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Speaker 1: game verse. Who's their dude? That's now? I mean the

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Speaker 1: backup that's just a jabroni. You know. Obviously the defenses

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a better cover man on him, kind

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Speaker 1: of like we just talked about before. The best coverage linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Also doesn't measure how many times the running back it's

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Speaker 1: coach said the other day about there's a physicality to

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Speaker 1: have a ripple effect for it. The Steeler's offenses lack

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Speaker 1: you can't just get it back. Yeah, you have to.

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Speaker 1: You have to work at it um. One last thing

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Speaker 1: on that, I was actually listening to what Jim Miller

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Speaker 1: Sirius and they were talking about Miller was going crazy.

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Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't call the back out by name,

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Speaker 1: but you kind of knew it was Clil Herbert that

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Speaker 1: why Fields is getting killed. He's not he's he's not picking,

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Speaker 1: he's not blocking the right guys in past protection. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's that's part of you know, there there are reasons

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Speaker 1: why some of these rookie running well, you can't just

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Speaker 1: it's you know that or fumbles usually they have to run.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a protection expert, but if we're gonna fan

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Speaker 1: guy coming from the right, he better better get him right.

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Speaker 1: I mean it done. He's the sixth most important guy

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Speaker 1: in pass protection. Yeah, anyways, we're gonna take a break.

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