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Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
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Speaker 2: Takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with
Speaker 2: Ben Mallard starts right now.
Speaker 3: In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with Ben Mahlor
Speaker 3: and not Not Danny g Radio this week as we
Speaker 3: hang out with you on a Friday, the eighth day
Speaker 3: of March, Danny the Fly in Hawaiian as he talked
Speaker 3: about over the weekend as he's hanging out. He's been
Speaker 3: in Hawaii all week with the family on vacation and in
Speaker 3: his place. Now, we spun the wheel of celebrities, and
Speaker 3: we had big names, big names on the wheel of celebrity.
Speaker 3: Who are we going to bring in here? Like who's
Speaker 3: he gonna be? We're gonna go back to the Fox
Speaker 3: Sports Radio archive and bring in like Tony Bruno, Or.
Speaker 1: Would we go to Steven A Smith who used to
Speaker 1: work here.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'd go like a Hollywood star Bradley Cooper, maybe
Speaker 3: j Moore who worked at the company, and we spun
Speaker 3: the wheel round and round and we got something better
Speaker 3: than all of those people.
Speaker 1: The Vegan, my friend, Alex, the Vegan. What's going on, Alex?
Speaker 1: How you doing, Bud?
Speaker 4: Ben? It is not only an honor and privilege to
Speaker 4: sit down with you and do this immaculate show with
Speaker 4: your fans and giving them every single day more of you,
Speaker 4: but to be on that illustrious wheel, I feel like
Speaker 4: we're only underselling ourselves in some kind of aspect.
Speaker 1: Ben. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually copied that from the old game show
Speaker 3: of the Prices, right, which I think is still around,
Speaker 3: but it went down when Bob Barker, the old host left.
Speaker 3: But it's National proof Reading Day today. Wow, Alex, So
Speaker 3: do you proofread what you do?
Speaker 1: Or?
Speaker 4: I feel so confidence sometimes I just send it. I
Speaker 4: think I should more though, Yeah, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that you need to proofread as much these
Speaker 3: days because if you're typing on a computer or your phone,
Speaker 3: most of these things have like spellcheck, and they'll kind
Speaker 3: of correct you as you go along.
Speaker 1: It's not like you have to go back and go
Speaker 1: through the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But a buddy of mine who we've had on the podcast,
Speaker 3: Ken Levine, who is a writer, a Hollywood writer, and
Speaker 3: he always says, I don't know there is proofreading, but
Speaker 3: when you write something like go back after you've done
Speaker 3: it and just cut a bunch of stuff out, like
Speaker 3: there's too much, like trim the fat. You know, I
Speaker 3: get a piece of meat at the butcher shop and
Speaker 3: you got to kind of trim the fat away.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know.
Speaker 3: That counts as proofreading more like you editing being the
Speaker 3: person that kind of cleans up because and I'm guilty
Speaker 3: of this too, Like I'll write stuff and I'll put
Speaker 3: way too much in there, Yeah, and it becomes problematic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 4: You know what I've been a fan of Ben is
Speaker 4: actually voice memos. That's been my thing lately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the voice members are good. And this is this
Speaker 3: is gonna I'm gonna date myself here, Lex. But I
Speaker 3: had in the my early days in radio, I had
Speaker 3: a program director named Bo Bennett. And Bo passed out
Speaker 3: to everyone at the radio station this little small pad
Speaker 3: of paper, right, a little small pad of paper, and
Speaker 3: he and he gave us all pens, and he he
Speaker 3: gave us this motivational speech. He's like, all right, here
Speaker 3: to be a good talk show host, I'm gonna give
Speaker 3: I've given each of you guys a little notepad, like
Speaker 3: it'll fit in the back of your your pants.
Speaker 1: He wanted us to walk around wherever we went, like
Speaker 1: we were wearing jeans or something.
Speaker 3: We put this notepad in the pen in the back
Speaker 3: of our pants, and then when we saw something that
Speaker 3: was interesting, just write.
Speaker 1: A little note so you remember it.
Speaker 3: And we all laughed at We all laughed at him
Speaker 3: and said, well, this guy's up, you know, douche. And
Speaker 3: but now here at my age, now, what I find
Speaker 3: myself doing throughout the day is I have I don't
Speaker 3: have a note pad, but on my phone I have
Speaker 3: the notes. Yes, yeah, the iPhone, I have the notes thing,
Speaker 3: which is not audio notes, but I'll what I'll do
Speaker 3: is a often just like speak into it and then
Speaker 3: it's kind of like the same thing, you know, it'll
Speaker 3: write down what I was thinking of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see something, and so that's incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah for me, it's I do agree with you though,
Speaker 4: like the whole trimming the FATA text messages, because sometimes
Speaker 4: I get too articulate with myself I'm like almost going
Speaker 4: back and saying the same thing twice in a different way.
Speaker 4: So when I started using voice memos it on it's like,
Speaker 4: I also like my voice, Ben, I know you're a
Speaker 4: fan of your voice as well, So I like being
Speaker 4: able to use my voice and then kind of having
Speaker 4: more of a free flow range. It feels like it's
Speaker 4: more kind of like conscious in a sense, like rather
Speaker 4: than typing, I'm like, I have to like focus on
Speaker 4: spelling and make sure the spell check doesn't say them
Speaker 4: where I'm trying to say they or they. It's just
Speaker 4: it's it's so much more free flowing, and I feel
Speaker 4: like I have a better conversation with people when it
Speaker 4: sounds like we're talking.
Speaker 1: So a couple of things. Number one, I don't love
Speaker 1: my voice. What I don't?
Speaker 3: I am at a point now my I hate listening
Speaker 3: to myself really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'll be walking.
Speaker 3: Around the hallways of the hollowed Fox Sports Radio building
Speaker 3: there the iHeartMedia building, and I'll hear promos for the
Speaker 3: show and I'll be like, oh, man, I could have
Speaker 3: done that better.
Speaker 1: You know that was I mean, that was all right,
Speaker 1: it could have been better.
Speaker 3: And then so I hate that but I I like
Speaker 3: my voice more now because I'm kind of grown up.
Speaker 3: When I started, I was a kid and I had
Speaker 3: my voice was not very.
Speaker 1: Deep, I guess, gotcha the way you could describe, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I was not a debonair. Man. There we go.
Speaker 1: Some things I guess hadn't.
Speaker 3: Dropped when you need to drop or whatever. And so
Speaker 3: over over time, uh that that I've I've become okay
Speaker 3: with it. But yeah, I I'm.
Speaker 1: One of those people.
Speaker 3: I want everything to be perfect and I hear stuff
Speaker 3: and I'm like, ah, that could have been so much better,
Speaker 3: Like I could have and I.
Speaker 1: Could have said that, you know, with a little bit
Speaker 1: of different tone. But you are right. Are our voices
Speaker 1: our musical instrument?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Spoken words? That's what we have.
Speaker 3: You're how many podcasts you got? Every time I talk
Speaker 3: to you, You've got another podcast, You're doing this, the
Speaker 3: anime stuff you got, You're doing motivational stuff. You're all
Speaker 3: over man, You're you're blowing up over there.
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's something that kind of just
Speaker 4: always takes its own way. Like I fel I'm a
Speaker 4: ship out at ocean, ben and whichever way the wind
Speaker 4: blows me, I just kind of sail towards it and
Speaker 4: see where it goes. Like That's been my main focus,
Speaker 4: like you said, was the shallow oceans. That's been a
Speaker 4: big proponent of mine because I've noticed so many people
Speaker 4: just haven't had just really succinct, honest opinion about just
Speaker 4: themselves and having an open conversation. That's why I love
Speaker 4: what I do so much with it because every time
Speaker 4: I sit down, Ben, I know this is polar opposite
Speaker 4: of yourself. I'll sit down with one idea, but I
Speaker 4: have nothing written down, nothing planned, and no personal idea
Speaker 4: of where the conversation will go, and I'll rift for
Speaker 4: thirty forty minutes and just see where it evolves. It's
Speaker 4: been amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So what I do is I have a lot of notes, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then and then which a lot of it, A
Speaker 3: lot of it I will not even use, but I'll do.
Speaker 3: I like to know that if I have, you know,
Speaker 3: if I have a brain fart, I got something, yes,
Speaker 3: but but oftentimes it's a complete waste of my time.
Speaker 3: My life would be so much easier if I was
Speaker 3: not built this way. But I learned under Lee Hacksaw
Speaker 3: Hamilton in San Diego and Lee Lee would do these
Speaker 3: amazing monologues every night at the beginning of his show,
Speaker 3: each hour, and he would spend all day preparing. So
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of one of the mentors, right. But then,
Speaker 3: but I also learned from Tony Bruno, and I love Tony.
Speaker 3: I was on his show at the Super Bowl in Vegas.
Speaker 3: There he had me on for a couple of segments.
Speaker 3: But but Tony did things differently. He would he would
Speaker 3: have one page and he'd just have a bunch of
Speaker 3: chicken scratch of what he wanted to do for the show,
Speaker 3: and that was fine.
Speaker 1: And so I've kind of morphed both those.
Speaker 3: Things where I've got a little bit of Hacksaw, a
Speaker 3: little bit of Tony Bruno. And then another one of
Speaker 3: the people that was I was around early Joe McDonald
Speaker 3: who was talked to host in Los Angeles, and I
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 1: Learned learned from him.
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of those it's my own thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't a podcast maybe, but I don't
Speaker 3: know a radio show. I'm I'm going in there and
Speaker 3: I'm I'm putting my time in. I got put my
Speaker 3: time in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just kind of the way it is.
Speaker 4: I like that though, Ben, because I think that's why
Speaker 4: this has been so fun for me, is I feel
Speaker 4: like we try to plan so much right and have
Speaker 4: so much priorities based on what we want to say.
Speaker 4: As you said, just preparation in case you do have
Speaker 4: a brain fart, so you know how to catch yourself
Speaker 4: and everything. I think like, that's why my focus has
Speaker 4: been so fun with it is I wanted to see
Speaker 4: exactly where I would go with nothing there to catch me.
Speaker 4: It's almost like thinking of it as like you're jumping
Speaker 4: out of a plane and you're going skydiving. You're like, well,
Speaker 4: I think I hope there's a parachute in the back
Speaker 4: of me. I just grabbed it back back and jumped,
Speaker 4: so let's see how this ends out. And it's kind
Speaker 4: of cool because every time, not only do I land safely,
Speaker 4: but I look up and I'm like, man, that was
Speaker 4: actually a more enjoyable experience than last time. And it
Speaker 4: just seems to be so organic. It makes it sound
Speaker 4: like it's natural, like a conversation. That's why I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like if I'm working with someone who I
Speaker 3: trust that I know will be prepared, like it's not
Speaker 3: as big a deal like I worked with Looney for
Speaker 3: years on Sunday, and I knew Looney would would bring
Speaker 3: it like you know, he and we would play off
Speaker 3: each other, which is one of the reasons that the
Speaker 3: TV show worked this year is and one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I wanted Looney for the for the show. When
Speaker 3: they asked me, I give them a list of people
Speaker 3: that I wanted to do the show with and Looney
Speaker 3: was was near the top there because I've worked with
Speaker 3: him a long time.
Speaker 1: But working with Tom, it's like I can go in there.
Speaker 3: And plus the other thing, we did a football show,
Speaker 3: and you can't really prepare for a show where you're
Speaker 3: reacting to.
Speaker 1: What's going on because you don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: You can be prepared to kind of know what may happen,
Speaker 3: but they still have to play the game. So with that,
Speaker 3: it was just like a reality TV show where we
Speaker 3: just kind of it's so.
Speaker 1: Cool, you have bull crap throughout today.
Speaker 3: And it was great because we'd have we've told these
Speaker 3: stories before, but we've had people from the NFL on
Speaker 3: Fox On and they were contractually obligated to come on,
Speaker 3: and some of them were great and they love doing it,
Speaker 3: and we're wonderful and just great, you know, sweet spirits
Speaker 3: Kenny King's would say back in the day, But others
Speaker 3: of them were total douches and didn't want to do it,
Speaker 3: and it was it was quite interesting to juxtapus pose
Speaker 3: easy for me to say the different the different agendas
Speaker 3: that certain people had doing that. But this week on
Speaker 3: the Overnight Show, I know you, of course you worked
Speaker 3: just before my show. Yes, I see you as you're
Speaker 3: leaving and I'm coming in for the night and you're
Speaker 3: you're heading out to the to the wild blue Yonder.
Speaker 3: But this week we had the big event was the
Speaker 3: I guess we'll call it Putting the God and the
Speaker 3: Octagon as Jed who fled from the swamp land of Florida,
Speaker 3: the Redneck Riviera and the ultimate Florida Man.
Speaker 1: He took on Dad Gummet.
Speaker 3: As we said when we did the bit, the it
Speaker 3: puts the red and redneck from from Arkansas and quite
Speaker 3: the character truck driver, bigger than life personality. It was
Speaker 3: the Southern Slam, the Rumble, and the Dixie Jungle and
Speaker 3: so scratch Off, which is another nickname for Dad Gummet.
Speaker 1: He showed up and Jed did not show off and it.
Speaker 3: Was quite controversial, so so scratch off won by disqualification.
Speaker 1: We've had a few of these octagons over the years.
Speaker 3: The it's really a blood sport verbal blood sport verbal octagon,
Speaker 3: and so we had a few of these and like this,
Speaker 3: jedhu Fled's done.
Speaker 1: It multiple times.
Speaker 3: We had this guy named blind Scott who's changed a
Speaker 3: lot over the years. But blind Scott he also vanished
Speaker 3: on us, and so even though he almost was disqualified
Speaker 3: by their scratch off, he did get declared the winner.
Speaker 3: Jedhu Fled then showed up like the day later if
Speaker 3: you listened to the podcast of the Live Overnight show,
Speaker 3: and then he did. He had a chance to say, hey,
Speaker 3: I was sorry, I screwed up. Instead he used what
Speaker 3: about ism?
Speaker 1: I mean, is what is that? It's what about?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Was his?
Speaker 3: That was our banter back and forth was what about ism?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Did you ever I asked Eddie this and Eddie said
Speaker 3: that he had not taken this. When I was in
Speaker 3: high school, I took a debate class. And did you
Speaker 3: ever take debate class? You did, right, it's a great class.
Speaker 1: You learned argument good.
Speaker 3: I'm glad so you know argument techniques, yes, poisoning the
Speaker 3: well right, using a straw man, all of these different things.
Speaker 3: The he did it too, yes, or he did it first? Yes,
Speaker 3: what kids off and will use you learn all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So when I when I immediately I had him on and
Speaker 3: he's like, well I learned from my mentor Ben mallor
Speaker 3: you know, he's going on using my name.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's what about it is he's deflecting.
Speaker 3: That is a diversionary tactic, and he's alway, he's playing
Speaker 3: the victim. I can't stand when people played the victim.
Speaker 3: Alex one of my pet peeves, right, he just bothers me.
Speaker 4: It's just.
Speaker 1: I know, what's up with that man? These your people, Alex,
Speaker 1: what's up with your people? I don't want to claim up. I'sired.
Speaker 1: These are your comrades out So I don't understand. I
Speaker 1: what you know?
Speaker 3: I was growing up, it was like you didn't want
Speaker 3: to be the victim. No, don't let somebody else control
Speaker 3: your narrative. Right, don't you know somebody else make you
Speaker 3: the victim? You are what you you know, you make
Speaker 3: your own way less.
Speaker 1: Yes, now it's like, oh, you get cloud as a victim.
Speaker 1: It's crazy big thing. It's wild to me.
Speaker 4: I think it's like some kind of bipartisan venom. Just
Speaker 4: we're in this world now, in this time where it's
Speaker 4: so hyper focused on so many different people, so many
Speaker 4: different cultures, so many news articles, so many things around
Speaker 4: the world, and it makes you kind of feel lost
Speaker 4: in the sauce. So it's almost like the easiest thing
Speaker 4: for you to do right now is not to blame others,
Speaker 4: but in the sense blame the things that are happening
Speaker 4: because it is at fault against you. So they have
Speaker 4: this like weird mindset now where everything is affecting them,
Speaker 4: but it's in factua He's like, no, no, no, you're you're
Speaker 4: the one allowing it, So stop telling the world like
Speaker 4: it's it's all this, it's all against me, all this.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, no, you're allowing it. So you're
Speaker 4: the person who just wants to kind of fit into
Speaker 4: this mantra of this whole self established thing of welcoming
Speaker 4: and everybody. It's like, at the same time that we've
Speaker 4: always been, it's not you don't have to just victimize
Speaker 4: yourself to be a part of something. We still love you,
Speaker 4: and it just it's annoying to me.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you.
Speaker 3: That's the only reasons I wanted you on the podcast.
Speaker 3: It's so society has been contaminated. Yes, this pollutant, this
Speaker 3: mass pollutant, this infection.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's the victim mentality. It's the you know, woe is me?
Speaker 3: I can't you know, I can't do this. You know,
Speaker 3: we're rather I would say, you know, who does. Everyone's
Speaker 3: got to walk in their own shoes, right, But what
Speaker 3: I would like to think is if you came from
Speaker 3: a bad background or whatever, right, your family have a
Speaker 3: lot of money, you're poor, whatever, that's the that's the
Speaker 3: seed for a wonderful story of overcoming it, not sitting
Speaker 3: there and wallowing in the victimhood. Yes, right, Instead, No,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna you know, someday I'll say I started from here,
Speaker 3: you know, I started from from X, and look where
Speaker 3: I ended up. I walk the walk, and you can
Speaker 3: do it too. It's so hard not everyone to get you,
Speaker 3: because if people lose their way and life, things happen,
Speaker 3: get you get screwed up. But I feel like I
Speaker 3: feel like you. I feel like a little motivational guy.
Speaker 1: You are because that's like your material.
Speaker 4: Yes, because Ben, I'll give you a great story.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So there's two guys on the side of the road
Speaker 4: and they're both sitting on the corner talking to each other.
Speaker 4: One guy in this just rags, he's dirty, missing his shoes,
Speaker 4: he looks like he needs a bath, food. He is
Speaker 4: just in the worst deplorable city could be in right now.
Speaker 4: And the guy talking to him has this tailor made suit,
Speaker 4: his hairs sophisticated, he's got a Bentley parked up the
Speaker 4: street where he came from. And they're both sitting there
Speaker 4: talking and someone comes up and says, what's going on, Like,
Speaker 4: is everything okay? They're like, yeah, we're brothers. We were
Speaker 4: just reminiscing how we both came from the same place
Speaker 4: and how we both used it to benefit or or
Speaker 4: worse in our life. He saw it as something that
Speaker 4: hampered him. I saw it as something that I could overcome.
Speaker 4: And it's crazy to see that two people from the
Speaker 4: exact same situation used it in their own way. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it's it's not crazy.
Speaker 1: It's true. And you see that.
Speaker 3: You'll see people that when one's very successful, Yes, like
Speaker 3: like a sisters or brothers.
Speaker 1: One of the other ones will be like, you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be losers or.
Speaker 3: Just not yes, not deemed successful by society. There's a
Speaker 3: great quote I think it was from maybe it was
Speaker 3: from Lou Holtz, maybe not. I heard it somewhere along
Speaker 3: the way old football coach Lou Holtz for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: But it's like, don't tell me how rocky the sea is.
Speaker 1: Just bring the ship in. So you gotta do God
Speaker 1: beautiful like.
Speaker 3: Kind a bumper sticker, Yeah, something like that, but he's
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: So that was the the Octagon this week, and Jed
Speaker 3: hasn't been banned.
Speaker 1: He still is up the Bennieser this week.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk more about that probably on the Saturday
Speaker 3: Pod tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But the Jed who fled O rama continues.
Speaker 3: Also that last weekend, I made a brief trip to
Speaker 3: Lost Wages, Nevada, my third trip this year. I have
Speaker 3: not It's the third month of the year, if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken, and I've already been there three times. It's
Speaker 3: basically a suburb of La Okay.
Speaker 1: I Alex do not.
Speaker 3: I would love hate relationship with Vegas because I remember
Speaker 3: how Vegas was when you could park for free and
Speaker 3: they'd give you.
Speaker 1: Free meals and spoil you. Yes.
Speaker 3: Now I go to Vegas and they want to charge
Speaker 3: you twenty dollars a day to park at their casinos
Speaker 3: and the food is outrageous on the strip.
Speaker 1: It's just insane.
Speaker 3: But I was invited my wife, one of her girlfriends
Speaker 3: had a birthday.
Speaker 1: It was a milestone.
Speaker 3: Birthday, so I was invited to you know, she was
Speaker 3: going to go and she wanted me to come hang out.
Speaker 3: So originally it was just gonna be I was gonna
Speaker 3: be my myself hanging out in a sports book, gambling,
Speaker 3: and then eventually it was just like, well, you just
Speaker 3: come with.
Speaker 1: Us, we'll go around.
Speaker 3: And so one of the places we went was the
Speaker 3: Mob Museum, I not being I've been buy it near
Speaker 3: the Fremont Street downtown Vegas. And so are you a
Speaker 3: Vegas guy, Alex You No, you don't seem like a
Speaker 3: Vegas guy.
Speaker 1: Now, like an outdoorsy guy. You don't seem like a
Speaker 1: Vegas guy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I've been a few times, like for my twenty first
Speaker 4: and for little get togethers or just say it's like
Speaker 4: a bachelor party or something. But to myself, Ben if
Speaker 4: you can give me like a week at Yosemite or
Speaker 4: Joshua Tree or Zion where I'm just sleeping outside, I
Speaker 4: can wake up butt naked and drink tea. That sounds
Speaker 4: like a good time to me.
Speaker 1: In hell good tree.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean in more ways, dude. It's funny to say,
Speaker 4: but I've actually became a tree hugger.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, that's funny. I've never been to Zion. I
Speaker 1: would like to go.
Speaker 3: Oh, my wife has some relatives that moved to Utah,
Speaker 3: so there is a there's he's got an uncle in
Speaker 3: an aunt that both live near kind of outside Salt Lake.
Speaker 1: One lives out in the middle of Utah. Going on,
Speaker 1: So I have an excuse to.
Speaker 3: Go to Utah just to go to Zion, which I
Speaker 3: is on my list. But my favorite, you know, my
Speaker 3: favorite spot is the Giant Forest.
Speaker 1: The Giant Sequoia Forest. There just amazing. I love going there.
Speaker 1: I tried to go there once a year.
Speaker 3: The coolest experience I've ever had there was actually in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and it was.
Speaker 1: Around this time. It was around this time of the year.
Speaker 3: It was in March, and it's the National Park is
Speaker 3: kind of near Fresno in the middle part of California.
Speaker 3: But I went there around March, mid to late March
Speaker 3: mony beating in early April, and it was about seventy degrees.
Speaker 1: We got up, drive up the mountain covered in snow.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, but yet it was you didn't have to
Speaker 3: have chains, so you don't ever worry about that, and
Speaker 3: it was still relatively mild, and yet there was snow everywhere.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, so so cool. I just love it.
Speaker 1: Haven't been there obviously this year. It's only been a
Speaker 1: few months, so try to get there at some point.
Speaker 4: But it does get pretty hot up there, yes summer,
Speaker 4: so I'm just telling you about. I know, Sin City
Speaker 4: is a great time for people because you can indulge
Speaker 4: in all of your deadly sins. But for myself, there's
Speaker 4: just something magical about going outside, Like even if it's
Speaker 4: somewhere like a national park or just some cool little
Speaker 4: hiking spot, you take off your shoes, connect to the
Speaker 4: ground a little bit, take your shirt off. It just
Speaker 4: it makes you slow down, if that makes sense. The
Speaker 4: world is so fast we were just talking about before
Speaker 4: you even recorded things. Just make it quicker and just
Speaker 4: take our time it's if I can find a moment
Speaker 4: to just kind of just deplug from everything unplugged and
Speaker 4: just desensitize myself to what I think the world is.
Speaker 4: It's really refreshing. It kind of helps you get out
Speaker 4: of like the whole thing we're talking about, like seasonal depression.
Speaker 4: I just I haven't been outside in so long. It's like, dude,
Speaker 4: just how about you just tell yourself you're bored. I mean,
Speaker 4: we can be honest about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hear it.
Speaker 3: So the Mob Museum just to finish the thoughts. So
Speaker 3: it was kind of it was cool. I I like
Speaker 3: going to randomlyums and this was this is different. I'd
Speaker 3: been buying. I'd heard good things about it. I thought
Speaker 3: it was a pretty good experience. It was expensive, but
Speaker 3: all these things are expensive these days, with the Biden
Speaker 3: inflation or the Putin inflation or whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it. I don't know, everything's expensive. But it inspired
Speaker 3: me and I don't want to forget these things. And
Speaker 3: I had the light bulb go off when I was
Speaker 3: walking around the Mob Museum. I have had a couple
Speaker 3: of run ins with mobsters in my life, and I
Speaker 3: was thinking about this as I was walking around and
Speaker 3: one of the people that I ran into was featured
Speaker 3: in the Mob Museum, and I was like, wow, it
Speaker 3: was funny because my wife and her her girlfriends were
Speaker 3: kind of running through the place, right.
Speaker 1: They were kind of going through it.
Speaker 3: They had to speak easy at the bottom where you
Speaker 3: can go get a drink meal, and so they were
Speaker 3: kind of motivated to go get a cocktail at the bar.
Speaker 3: But I was kind of into looking at the stuff
Speaker 3: in the museum, and they had all these old artifacts.
Speaker 1: So then I went down. They had this wall of
Speaker 1: mob fame. I get.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's called. I exactly right, the
Speaker 3: Bobby frame. Yeah, yeah, so they had all these different
Speaker 3: famous mobsters. I've had three runnings with mob people, but
Speaker 3: the most famous was actually in the Fox Sports Radio building.
Speaker 3: What yeah, this goes back probably, man, it's got to
Speaker 3: be at this point fifteen sixteen, seventeen years ago, so
Speaker 3: a long time ago, a number of years ago.
Speaker 1: And at that time, we were in the old studio.
Speaker 3: Which is, you know, down the hall from the new studio,
Speaker 3: and Joe McDonald was the guy doing the show before
Speaker 3: my show in LA and I was buddies with Joe
Speaker 3: and so I would go outside to do cross talk.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be bothered in the hallway, so
Speaker 3: I'd go outside and get on the phone and call
Speaker 3: him in to his show locally in LA and tell
Speaker 3: him what was going to happen on our show, kind
Speaker 3: of promote the show. So I went outside. It was
Speaker 3: it was during the winter, it was kind of cool whatever.
Speaker 3: I walk outside and there's this guy standing in front
Speaker 3: of the door and he's, hey, are you on the radio?
Speaker 3: And I'm walking out of a radio station. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: and I kind of I kind of ignored him, right,
Speaker 3: and I walked down the street, thinking he was just
Speaker 3: going to keep walking, and so I did my like
Speaker 3: five minute phoner with the big nasty Joe McDonald and
Speaker 3: then I walked back to the outside you know the
Speaker 3: outside door there, Yeah, goes out.
Speaker 1: We've all you know those that are work the building,
Speaker 1: Mark does.
Speaker 3: So I walked back and the guys passed the door.
Speaker 3: So I'm walking towards the door. Next thing I know,
Speaker 3: the guy takes he sees me kind of out of
Speaker 3: his peripheral vision, so he starts walking back. Uh, it's
Speaker 3: kind of towards me, and there's Hey, you're the you're
Speaker 3: on the you're on the radio. You know. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: Henry fucking Hill, and I am I want to be
Speaker 3: on the radio. Put me on the radio, right, And
Speaker 3: this guy's reeks of alcohol. Wow, guy reeks alcohol. Looks
Speaker 3: like he's homeless, Hull dishevel, right, And so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're Henry you know.
Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, yeah, you're Henry Hill. Right,
Speaker 1: You're Henry Hill.
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm Homer Simpson, you know. And I walk
Speaker 3: in there and it was the The Wireless and Greg
Speaker 3: Bergman was my producer, Bergie and so this guy I
Speaker 3: walk in, he starts banging on the.
Speaker 1: Door, bang bang bang bang bang. Let me in. I'm
Speaker 1: Henry fucking Hill. You know, you know who I am?
Speaker 1: And so whatever.
Speaker 3: So then I I went on Google because I knew
Speaker 3: who Henry Hill was. My favorite movie is Goodfellas. Yes,
Speaker 3: So I type Henry Hill. I type his name, and
Speaker 3: Henry had popped up. He was in the Witness Protection Program.
Speaker 3: He was actually kicked out of the Witness Protection Program,
Speaker 3: but he pop up on the Howard Stern Show, and
Speaker 3: so there was there were pictures.
Speaker 1: Of Henry Hill and that was Henry Hill.
Speaker 3: No, he was living in Sherman Oaks, which is where
Speaker 3: our studios are in LA and he was apparently a
Speaker 3: raging alcoholic. He died of alcohol. I believe it was
Speaker 3: alcohol related illness. And yeah, that guy killed people, right.
Speaker 3: He also I believe he set up one of the
Speaker 3: famous point shaving situation Boston College. I think that was
Speaker 3: a Henry Hill creation back in the day that.
Speaker 1: He he gave. I think he gave testimony.
Speaker 3: He became an informant, and I think he was part
Speaker 3: of the famous was it the airplane heist?
Speaker 1: The what was it called the Louis Stanza or whatever?
Speaker 3: It was probably mispronouncing that, but yeah, so that was Henry.
Speaker 3: That was one of the the run into another one
Speaker 3: I had was kind of around that time. I had
Speaker 3: lost the bed with some listeners in Boston and it
Speaker 3: was actually about the Giants Patriot super Bowl. A guy
Speaker 3: who was a Giants fan living in Boston of all things,
Speaker 3: bet on Eli Manning and the Giants, and I was
Speaker 3: ripping Eli, calling him in the punk and all that,
Speaker 3: and the Giants ended up winning the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 3: we had made a bet on the air that I
Speaker 3: was going to come to Boston and buy him and
Speaker 3: his buddy's dinner, and so I did. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to go to Boston anyway, so I flew back there
Speaker 3: and this guy was a big fan of the show
Speaker 3: he had. He'd hooked me up though. He said, listen,
Speaker 3: you know you buy this, then i'll take carry all right,
Speaker 3: So he.
Speaker 1: He got a hotel room for pretty much nothing.
Speaker 3: Pretty much nothing. You had to pay a couple of bucks,
Speaker 3: but it was pretty cheap. Then he says, you're going
Speaker 3: to need to get around Boston. So he says, go
Speaker 3: down to the front desk concierge at the hotel whatever
Speaker 3: they call it, and there'll be an envelope for you.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I go down and there's a there's an
Speaker 1: envelope with my name on it.
Speaker 3: And there's a little sticky note, like a yellow note,
Speaker 3: and there's a key. The note says, go to the
Speaker 3: back of a hotel. There's a car you can drive.
Speaker 3: If anybody pulls you over, just say it's a friend's car.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the car so all right, fine.
Speaker 3: So then I ended up buying these guys dinner at
Speaker 3: San Parpios, which is this famous pizza place in Boston.
Speaker 3: East Boston, really good pizza, old pizza place. It's been
Speaker 3: around for a long time. It's we don't have stuff
Speaker 3: like that in California. It's really not that much stuff.
Speaker 3: It's been around, been around a long time.
Speaker 1: I guess the missions, I guess so.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so we went, we had the meal, and
Speaker 3: this guy brought like there were.
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how many. It was like fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty dudes.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And they all still lived in the neighborhood. They all
Speaker 1: grew up there. They were all buddies from school and
Speaker 1: they all worked. Look all the jobs.
Speaker 3: So then we had the meal and my buddy's like, hey,
Speaker 3: there's somebody else that wants to meet you. He couldn't
Speaker 3: make it, so I want you to follow me, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna go, and I want you know, he's he's
Speaker 3: a fan of yours and I want you to meet
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, you know whatever, I mean.
Speaker 1: You took care of me pretty well.
Speaker 3: And the meal was, you know, several hundred dollars, but
Speaker 3: that's fine, and we'd buy some pies and some beer
Speaker 3: for the guys and that's it. So I follow this
Speaker 3: guy to a chop shop in a ceed neighborhood of Boston,
Speaker 3: and I meet the guy, and the guy is quite
Speaker 3: quite the character, right, quite the character, and he's he's
Speaker 3: telling me, he's like, you know, you know, he's like,
Speaker 3: I like your show, I like your style. Whatever's give
Speaker 3: me the.
Speaker 1: Whole rap there. And then he's like, you know, he
Speaker 1: starts trying to brag a little bit, like his thing is.
Speaker 3: He wants to he wants to, you know, show me that,
Speaker 3: you know, he's got he's got some some So he's
Speaker 3: telling me, you know, I just want you to know
Speaker 3: I'm not like this anymore. But I was younger, you know,
Speaker 3: I I lived a hard life, you know, but this
Speaker 3: guy's got like tons of apparently he's got tons of money.
Speaker 1: My buddy's like telling me, this guy's loaded. I don't know.
Speaker 3: And the chop shop looked like a piece of shit,
Speaker 3: so I was, you know whatever. Anyway, the long story short,
Speaker 3: the guy's telling me that when his younger days, he
Speaker 3: was in a in an organization and he claimed that
Speaker 3: his sister I got I forget exactly. It was some
Speaker 3: connection where his sister knew somebody who knew somebody else
Speaker 3: who knew one of the people that wrote The Sopranos,
Speaker 3: the Big Show on HBO many years ago. Yes, and
Speaker 3: that one of the writers followed him around and that
Speaker 3: was how they they kind of learned about the mob
Speaker 3: and organized crime and stuff was from him, and.
Speaker 1: That's what he claimed. Now, maybe the guy was full
Speaker 1: of you know what, right horse manure, No, but this
Speaker 1: is what he told me. And based on some recon
Speaker 1: that I had, I don't know. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Then the other one, the other one I had real
Speaker 3: quick is I was I had a lemon.
Speaker 1: You won't get a lemon. I got a lemon then,
Speaker 1: not from the.
Speaker 3: Toyota famous car dealership in California, but I got a lemon.
Speaker 3: So it's a total scam. By the way, there are
Speaker 3: lemon laws. But have you ever got you had a lemon?
Speaker 1: Didn't you?
Speaker 4: Currently m yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So the way it works, the lemon law is you
Speaker 3: buy the car for an amazing amount of money, you
Speaker 3: drive it off the lot and immediately loses money. Yes,
Speaker 3: and then if it's a lemon, they have to buy
Speaker 3: it back, but they downgrade how much the car is
Speaker 3: worth because they go by the Kelly Blue Book. And
Speaker 3: I said, well, you know, so you you end up
Speaker 3: losing thousands of dollars, even though it's no fault of
Speaker 3: your own.
Speaker 1: You did nothing wrong. You paid for a car, you
Speaker 1: were told you were going to get a good car.
Speaker 3: They give you, you know, a clunker, a Jelpi, and
Speaker 3: then this great I had to return the car. There's
Speaker 3: a transition of power where you drop the car off.
Speaker 3: You have to fill out a bunch of paperwork. They
Speaker 3: then cut you a check.
Speaker 1: So I go in.
Speaker 3: This guy meets us at a car dealership. We were
Speaker 3: there to drop the car off. The guy then another
Speaker 3: guy starts telling. He starts talking about this.
Speaker 1: He says, he says, you know who, he's telling me
Speaker 1: about his past. He's like, oh, yeah, I grew up.
Speaker 1: I just had my mom and that was it, you know,
Speaker 1: my father.
Speaker 3: He claimed that he was related to Lucky Luciano.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, this.
Speaker 3: Guy, Yeah, I don't know if he has a bull
Speaker 3: you know what what but bullpucking. So this guy's whole
Speaker 3: rap was he said that his mom was a maid
Speaker 3: at Lucky Luciano's home and Luciano had an affair as
Speaker 3: an old man with his mom, and he pulled out.
Speaker 1: A this is the funniest thing. He pulls out a photo.
Speaker 3: In his wall of Lucky Luciano and then he holds
Speaker 3: it up to his face.
Speaker 1: Do you see the resemblance? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy he said he he was he lived
Speaker 3: in Reno and then he had come to l A
Speaker 3: occasionally for work. But yeah, so those are my mob
Speaker 3: mob related stories.
Speaker 1: There are three of them. That's increasing my favorites. The
Speaker 1: Henry Hill one, without doubt, that's insane, dude. Still it
Speaker 1: still blows me.
Speaker 3: Away that I was like totally dismissive he was he
Speaker 3: was old and drunk and uh and I get it,
Speaker 3: but but still, I mean, the guy had seen some
Speaker 3: really dark things in his life. All Right, we'll get
Speaker 3: out on that. Anything you would like to promote here,
Speaker 3: We've got two more podcasts to do this weekend.
Speaker 1: Any want to plug your any.
Speaker 3: Specific podcast Alex before we close closed the book?
Speaker 4: For sure, I would like to. But first I got
Speaker 4: to say, Ben, isn't it true that somebody actually shot
Speaker 4: at the studios one time when you were hosting?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Oh that did happen the mob people, Ben, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We we think we know who did that. Well, that
Speaker 3: was not a mob guy, that was somebody Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we well, I don't, I don't know we should say,
Speaker 3: but there was someone that that well, somebody that worked
Speaker 3: at the company that was let go on a Friday,
Speaker 3: and we think of their way out of town on
Speaker 3: Sunday night, they wanted to get one shot off before
Speaker 3: they left town.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: My, my, my favorite part of that was my board
Speaker 3: off this guy Jerry, who may or may not have
Speaker 3: done some shady things in his past.
Speaker 1: I love Jerry, but I said, hey, Jerry, you got
Speaker 1: to call the cops. Somebody just shot the window. And
Speaker 1: Jerry's like, he's kind of gave me this day's look.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I said, look over there in the window. That wasn't
Speaker 3: the out it's double plane glass, so the outside was
Speaker 3: completely smashed. On the inside, I fortunately was not. It
Speaker 3: was another plane, a bulletproof class.
Speaker 1: And so he's like, I got it, hude.
Speaker 3: So what he did his decision was rather than call
Speaker 3: the cops because he didn't want the cops to go
Speaker 3: there because he might have had.
Speaker 1: Some warrants right or whatever.
Speaker 3: So he decided to just close all the blinds so
Speaker 3: at least the people wouldn't know where they were shooting.
Speaker 3: So that was his gosh, and then he went to
Speaker 3: building security, Like, what's the security cops anyway?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So.
Speaker 3: That's incredible, Ben, that was I was on there where
Speaker 3: Jim Daniels. It was a Sunday night, Jim's rock and
Speaker 3: roll guy.
Speaker 1: Gosh, he was there a show.
Speaker 4: I wish I had a gangster story for you. But
Speaker 4: the most I have his boardwalk from HBO and Sopranos.
Speaker 4: That's like the most mob relations I've had is watching
Speaker 4: those shit.
Speaker 3: Out of I didn't go out of my way for
Speaker 3: any of these things. That just kind of happened. It's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the weird thing.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'll get out of that.
Speaker 3: I have a great rest of your Friday. And uh hey,
Speaker 3: Alex Vegan's with us all weekend. Oh we amazing And
Speaker 3: we'll have another.
Speaker 1: Part tomorrow'll catch you next time.
Speaker 3: And as Danny would say, when we say aloha, well
Speaker 3: this week, he'd probably say a loha or later skater,
Speaker 3: later skater