1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: My name is thing for the money f I e 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: in d shott it. You know what I'm saying, Barnard, 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Louisiana uptown like a motherfucker how to grow the big exact? 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Now you say Holly Grove, isn't Wayne from Holly Grove? 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Weezys from how they Grow? Yes, Sir one seven. Wayne 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: said that I'm one of the ones that inspired him 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: to do it. Used to write my lyrics down after school, 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: write them on paper like that's something crazy to know 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: that you don't know who's watching. You definitely don't know, 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: but you know you were inspiration for a whole bunch 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: of people. One of my favorite mcs for sure. Thank you. 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: What was your life like growing up over Holly Growth? 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: My life grown up for Holly Grove was it was 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: kind of unique. Man. Um My dad was like um, 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: like the prince of my neighborhood. Um, not watching no 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: one's pockets. But my grandfather was dick called like a 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: black jew. I mean no disrespect to no one, but 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: just that he owned the block and he owned all 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: the house the homes on the block. You know what 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, including the barroom. That my daddy was a 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: mixed salege is there for forty years. For the plus 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: years my daddy ran the barroom. Um, but my life 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Poverty eventually happened because you know through 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know who. I don't know who 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: specifically at the code coming to the neighborhood. But when 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: that happened, thing has changed up a little bit, I'm 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: quite sure for a lot of neighborhoods and a lot 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: of households. But we still survived through my mom and 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: my father made an excellent opportunity for me and my 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: brother Kevin and how to grow. They have a good life. 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's very dope. So I remember those times, man, 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: when the correct epidemic hit every neighborhood from coast to coast. 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, nobody was exempt from that about you know 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: something about from Detroit to Los Angeles. Fact. You know, 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: how did that How did that era impact you? And? Um, 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: how did the code crack era? And part of me 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: it uh In some instances I can recall me a 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: young man, it probably for food on the table and 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: in some instances it didn't allow foot table. I feel 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: you man, you know, it was definitely turbulent times. It 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: was definitely young. You saw a lot of people come up, 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: you know. I remember being in school seeing cats go 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: from wearing the same pair of pants every day, the 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: pulling up to the school and Mercedes bands is BMW's 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: kidded up Jettis and just different stuff. So it's definitely 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: a different time. Life had changed for you when you 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: got something that everybody wants. You know, now, you're so 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: much more than just a rapper. You're a songwriter. You 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: could sing. I hear a lot of blues inflections in 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: your music. I don't even want to almost ask you, 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: how did you discover hip? I want to discover your 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: passion for music. I discovered my passion for music, I 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: recalled vividly my dad letting me stay up a little 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: bit late to go in the live room and watch 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: a performance by Earth Winning Fire. Now, I don't know 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: why I was so compelled to go sit down and 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: stay up and watch this. I don't know what the 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: channel was on, what was going on, but I remember 59 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: saying every when the fight had come out of the 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: play as sequence outfits, feel a billy hitting all these 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: crazy high notes, and was just amazed, you know what 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And um, I knew I love music. My 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: ice walking in the live room after my dad be 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: having to get together, you know, a player party. I 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: still got it. I'll show it to you. I got 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: this big ass hand crank weed grinder, I said, this 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: huge dog, big as iron crank going and my daddy 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: be grinding. It's canna just rolling on some Jay's what 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And letting them need a baker Para Melton 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: and blue notes, you know, George Pauliament, excuse me, George 71 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Plainton and put the phone with Doug Parliament. How you 72 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: name it, bro Barry White Quincy, you name it? Shot Day. 73 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I remember these things vivily in that big old uglass 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: brown stereo box that was in everybody's house that eventually 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: had one. Yeah, the turntable, the eight track, and then 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And might used to just 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoy that man. And after his company, you know, 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: he might come up in there. We can go ahead, 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: do them the dance, you know what I mean. And 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: then you get your hands out of here, you know, Yeah, 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Sip want his little pointy a little middle of like 82 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: point here, and you know, when the friends leave it, 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: let me come and let me chill and while he 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: just rolled a few jays and listen to some music. 85 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: And music is just always been granted me. You know 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um I love all kinds of music, 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: but something about soul, rock, um R and B then 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: eventually hip hop, it just it just struck a match 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: under me. Man, and I just, man, I've just never 90 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: been the same since. That's very dope, man. Now, music 91 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: is one of those things. And this is what I 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: always tell artists. If you're coming into it just looking 93 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: to get paid to hit the lick, it's probably not 94 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen to you. But if you become great at 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: what you do, money will follow. It will allow you, 96 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: the universe will allow you to do what you're passionate 97 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: about and make a living at it. Now, when did 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: you realize that that was the path that you want 99 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: to go on? Like, I want to be a musician. 100 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I can't see myself being a manager at the foot locker. 101 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I don't want to 102 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: be a principal of the high school. I don't want 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: to be a football player. I want to be issue 104 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: That moment makes you wow, when in that moment hit 105 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: me that. I think, man, when I realized I just 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: wanted to do music, is that I felt more obligated 107 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: as a young man. My brother had passed and I 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: was that's all I knew, Me and my brother, my 109 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: father and my mother, and then it was just me 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: and my mother and my brother, and then it was 111 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: just me and my mother. You know what I'm saying. 112 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: So I think by trying to fulfill uh a life 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: patting oath I made with my brother, you know that 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to rather do music. He introduced me to 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: these guys, but I didn't really get these guys that 116 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: have to he passed today. Hall was like, you know, 117 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I have a real unique story still like in my neighborhood. 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I recalled it. I don't know if it's like two 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: years ago, but it really hit me, bro Like it 120 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: clear as did hit me that my neighbor hood did 121 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: everything they could to make sure I stayed on the 122 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: right track. That's very dope. He had a lot of 123 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: respect and the um he had a lot of respect 124 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: and our neighbor and my dad did of course as well, 125 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: and my mom. Beautiful, man, do you know when I 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: was born, my neighborhood couldn't wait to see what I 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: look like because my daddy was such a handsome man 128 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: and so loved and revealed, and my mom was so beautiful. 129 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: They felt they couldn't wait to see, like the print 130 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: on some symbolship. You know. Um, you know, And I 131 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: don't mean it from an egotistical way. I made it 132 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: from a standpoint of just I'm hearing these stories from 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: my aunt that's in California, and she's telling me about 134 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: these things that I will oblieve this to, you know 135 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But it had to be on my brother. 136 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I swell all my life that I'm an take care 137 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: of my mother, gonna take care of us. Off this music. 138 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: You're introducing me to Dvus Moosa never fellow country, and 139 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: these people won't be for nothing, you know what I'm saying. 140 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: He used to coming from hustling at night and pay 141 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: me twenty hours and make him some scrambled eggs every 142 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: twenty hours to make him a bowl of cereal. And 143 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: that once I had him at that table, I pull 144 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: out my notebook and I run these raps. So your brother, 145 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're mixing your brother, you know, during the 146 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: courts of us just you know, building with each other. 147 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: I heard you here. You're mixing your brother a lot. Man. 148 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: He was obviously a big impact in your life. Man, 149 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: oh man, Bro say still, Bro, you know you're watching 150 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: on TV and the kid, um, the big brother comes 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: and saved, the brother stands up for him, like fresh 152 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: out of a movie or something. Before my brother passed, 153 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: I witness that in real life, you know what I'm saying. 154 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Like a couple of times you feel me and like, um, 155 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: he was my hero, Bro, he was my hero. Bro. 156 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: You know I'm I'm not sadden right now, but I'm 157 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: definitely tear eyed right They're just thinking about him and 158 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: uh and enjoy this way. I miss him. He just 159 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: had a birthday February twelve, and he just was He 160 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: had love for me, Bro, Like you know what I'm saying, 161 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and what he sacrifice for me and what he he 162 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: chose to do to make sure I didn't leave the 163 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: life of things. You know, he was selfless on a 164 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: lot of parts, and he let me know what it's 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: like to have a brotherhood and how you reshiprocate that 166 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: type of brotherhood. You know, I'm saying, I never forget 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: this man. This dude stolen on me. Run the neighborhood, 168 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: which just moved into the neighborhood. Just old as dude, Bro, 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you're grown as man. Bro. I'm I'm fifteen. I'm fourteen 170 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: years old. He's give him fourteen thirteen. The old matter 171 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: dude stolen on me. I'm new talking to some new 172 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: guys and this older guy come over and he's just 173 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: still me right. He put me down, he just hit 174 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: me out of there. To put your hands on him, sir, 175 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. I remember going home 176 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: and walking into the house and my brother like what's up? 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh nothing, like what's up? You look 178 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: down and what's up? He like, what's up? He's like, man, 179 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: what happened? So I said, this guy may older dude, Bro, 180 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: the maybe older than you, may stole on me. Dog, 181 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you feel me? 182 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: He was like, come shore me who you're talking about. 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this sun. My brother had on cakie 184 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: shows no shirt of white Boston Red Sox hat and 185 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: put on his knives and we went outshote. We walked 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: down two blocks and he said, show me which one 187 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: of these men put his hands on. I said it 188 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: was him right there. He said, look on, were doing 189 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: his neighborhood, and I get y'all been around here, herman, 190 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: you wanta fight somebody. We catched the street right now too, 191 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: grown man, and we can get to that. Bro, don't 192 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: you have me your life? Put your hands and my brother, 193 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: son of a dog? You heard men? That was that? 194 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: He like, do you want to catch the street? Nah? Dog, 195 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: We're okay. Then you feel me? That's that you feel me? 196 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: And we went inside. I would like spike walking back 197 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: my brother to the house. I got the witness that 198 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: bro like, and I think that just gave me an 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: undeniable commitment. This was gonna be my life, though, was 200 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: to make something out myself. It's not take care of 201 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: my mother, but to let my brother know that his 202 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: time invested in me. The love he had for me 203 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: was not a name. That's dope. That's very dope, Big Bro. 204 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Shout up to big Bro man. Yeah we have a 205 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: birthday care now. Your original label was a Big Boy Records, 206 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: iconic label in New Orleans. Me being a Christian UM, 207 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: I came out to California, UM, and I've always been 208 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: very much a person that was heavily investing in hip 209 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: hop any new record that came out. So me, being 210 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: originally from the Midwest, we vibed with everybody. We listened 211 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: to the Southern music, We listened to East Coast rap, 212 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: we listened to West Coast wrap. We didn't have no preference. 213 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: We liked everybody. So, you know, Big Boy Records was 214 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: an iconic label. How did you link up with those 215 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: guys Big Boy Records? Before I was a Big Boy 216 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: of the records, I was earning and working with Hollygorld Records, 217 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: which is three cats that started to label to put 218 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: our Black menute that allowed me to record myself on 219 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: wax for the first time. Were the verse dedicated to 220 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: my brother? What these labels started from some friends? It 221 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: is that he hustle with so Um. Then I was 222 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: with Worth the Weight the Records. This was Jeous and Mussa, 223 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So worked with Bony DJ 224 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: jazz Um, which was Bony was the brother of the 225 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: girl from my brother's first love. All these people took 226 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: a big time to take me into to work. So 227 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: these are people that I was working with before a 228 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Big Butt Records. Um. I did an intro for Wild 229 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: Wayne uh Q ninety three and he uh still to 230 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: this day is a big radio personality. But he had 231 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the evening show like between three to seven is the 232 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: prime time for US kids at the time on radio. 233 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: You feel me like we're gonna learn new music coming out, 234 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna see what's going on, what's moving around, shaking 235 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: in the city, and you get to hear uh possibly 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: upcoming next artists. If you was rapping on while to 237 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: do his intro for his show, that's basically like if 238 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: we had a radio station called Still left him and 239 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: you would have ready personality. And I was like, yo, 240 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: this theme was still centence sentences us you know between 241 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: three and seven, like this is what you played every 242 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: day to announce before you went on live on the end. 243 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: So while Wayne allowed me to do an intro from him, 244 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Devas produced it. I remember he produced it like on 245 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: a Monday Tuesday we cut it. I think, uh the 246 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: radio station while Wayne got it on a Wednesday Thursday 247 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: played it again. Fried that I was having a meeting 248 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: in the studio with Big Boy Records and DJ Leroy 249 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: was precise that was the producer here producer. He was 250 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: making a track for Sporty Tea Blesses. So he's passed away. Basically, Friday, 251 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: I was signed. I wasn't even signed to the label, 252 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: but I was. I was. I was in there. I 253 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: was in the studio as a fly on the wall 254 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: because my intro got me to this part. So when 255 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I got a meeting in the studio right this dude 256 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: was producing the track of somebody else had the bass 257 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: guitars playing I'm on the wall, like that was a 258 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: little it. Bro, what you said? What you said? He said? 259 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: I said again, I say, I'm the baddest mothers hold on, 260 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: bro a sporter, Bro, this is decisive. Hey bro, I'm 261 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: in a session. We're going on some tracks for you. 262 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: But I did something and I want to get it 263 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: to somebody else. I want to do what you mind 264 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: because I'm in hell for your time. You know what 265 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're like, yeah, it's size man. You go 266 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: ahead and do that. Man, it's all good. I'll be 267 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: that later. You know what I'm saying. He got the phone, 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: told me getting the booth, I woul't record it. The 269 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: baddest motherfucker live sad. As I was shooting the TV 270 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: commercial for the box that's dope, man, that's real dope. 271 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, you've mentioned just some legendary names from the 272 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans area, from New Orleans area, right, A lot 273 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: of people don't know Sporty T was that dude down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 274 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Sporty T was what we called what he called himself, 275 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the King of Bounce. Sported was already a rapper what 276 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: we call real rappers, meaning that real rappers did music 277 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: outside of bounds music. Sported was that guy, and you 278 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: know he was, he was, you know, knowing in these 279 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: streets to you know what I'm saying. But sport it 280 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: was that guy. Sported. Let me get that one leg 281 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: up here shouting Sported to and his family. Anybody tune 282 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: with that. Spoil allowed me to get that track. Man. 283 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: That's dope, man, That's that's really dope. So from there, 284 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: y'all pushing out projects, man, and y'all doing your thing man, 285 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know the world got to hear you. 286 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: You already established artists, man, and you wind up on 287 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: No Limit Records? Man, how did that come about? I 288 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: know that the records was that the big boy thing, 289 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Big Boy records. It didn't turn out and worked for me. 290 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: For the long haul like I had wanted it too, 291 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Uh, God blessed Chuck Soul, 292 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Charles Temple, Uh, real solid guy. We just didn't see 293 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: out the eye on some stuff, you know what I'm saying. 294 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: And I stood up for myself and he wasn't gonna 295 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: have no coup his labor. Yeah, we bumped heads, and 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I used to feel, like you heard me. At one time, 297 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I was in the office and had all the artists, 298 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: and I felt like on one side of the room 299 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: it was artist that was doing show to get money, 300 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: and the other side of the room was artists that's 301 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: still trying to get the thing together and hope they 302 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to make them some weekend money and 303 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: make some sales, offer some record sales and stuff like that. 304 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: So I had, you know, I was still making too 305 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: money decisions emotions then, So I ended up having a 306 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: hiatus and uh we you know, we kind of bumped 307 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: heads later, end up, you know, get with each other. 308 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: He told me before he passed, when he had so 309 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: much respect for me for standing up for myself. You 310 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean, He said, I want to tell 311 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: you this to your face, Bro, at least you gotta 312 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: release from my record company. And we had whatever I 313 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: misunderstanding was, and we moved past that. He said, that's 314 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: how maye but spend money with you today because I 315 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: got respect for you. Bro, just eighteen, I couldn't figure 316 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: out why he ain't having this ship. He is not 317 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: having it, you know. I mean, I'm gonna tell you 318 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: it was funny too, but it's the first time I 319 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: ever encountered something like this. We didn't we didn't see 320 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: how the eyes. So I took my hiatus from the label. 321 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: But do you know that this label was recording I 322 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: had recorded like two songs, right, do you know what 323 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: they're about to finish my album with the rest of 324 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: the songs on my album being this song is about 325 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: me on my album? Is that right? That's crazy? Bro? 326 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: Let gon put album with a bunch of people this 327 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: and you yeah, me on two of my own songs 328 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: and the rest of the songs just yea, I'm saying. 329 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: And I end up hearing the story and we end 330 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: up laughing about it, and we kept it moving, you 331 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. My whole thing was for my 332 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: brother bear in the streets, like you know, you see 333 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: all types of men, you know what I'm saying, And 334 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: sometimes it's better to let someone thing they want, you 335 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, opposed to happen to beat on 336 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: your chest in the middle of the street about you know, 337 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: about your victory. So I knew just to be young. 338 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm young, you know, I'm not built like these gentlemen. 339 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: I really prefer to do music that on some street ship, 340 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to respect that, 341 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: you know. So I had to respect that, and we 342 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: end up working out something. I came back and finished 343 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: my album. Uh DJ Precise produced it. David Folk played 344 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of instruments. I'll produced that, and we just 345 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: moved forward. What I'm saying what happened was I still 346 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: had a name ringing in the in the city and 347 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Big Boy Records that right, it's course. So I got 348 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: a release from a good friend of mine helped me 349 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: with a release, and he got Chuck to come bring 350 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: me a release. Um you know, um any my duties 351 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: and Bigpley Records. So my mom got me a job 352 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: at Times pick of you know, the newspaper, right, the 353 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: customer service, right, I'm falling asleep in the LUNs room. 354 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: So I'm doing the most bro. So Kennan they Will 355 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: had had got a third party situation to work with 356 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: No Limit Records. Me and Kenny was like like this, 357 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: so I'm taking the trips from help writing doing all 358 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: kinds of things with each other. So that was one 359 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: look of visiting Nolan the records. A second love was 360 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: me and X invited me to get on a song 361 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: or Mac and her on her project. I went up 362 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: that to the studio again you know what I'm saying, 363 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: no studios and I recorded that. So that was that. 364 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: So I go again with cal Me and Carels in 365 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the studio. Bet let small room, bro, what you're just 366 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: doing preproduction at and I'll never forget. We like this 367 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: head while he was on a drum machine and I 368 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: had dove and I turned like this here and he 369 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: had come per Samiller walking like that's over. Tell let 370 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: me how that what I'm saying. Leave me in the 371 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: room by myself. They go in the room. Their voice 372 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: is get a little loud, you know, like oh ship, 373 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: oh ship, Like damn, I hope I don't get called 374 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: in trouble, you know, just being this you know your kid, 375 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Actually my friend taking me to a job pretty much, 376 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's like, nah. So RKL 377 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: came back in and I heard him tell him, Man, 378 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: we need this, dude, I think we need this. Do 379 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He came back in like, 380 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: now we're good, man, We're good. We're good. That was 381 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: another look a bit out there. The last and final 382 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: straw was I had a buddy of mine. I believed 383 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: in me, and he knew my brother, you know what 384 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, my brother for some other things. And he 385 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: was like, I believe in you. I'm gonna find out 386 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: what did it take to do a deal with you? No, 387 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: let me records? So he said, I remember him that 388 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Pete didn't care for a third party deal. Sometimes he 389 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: ended up bad, you know what I'm saying. But many 390 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: got on the phone call, got on the phone call, 391 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: the phone call, and finally he was like, you know 392 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: what it's gonna take. They have fene you know, getting 393 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: in the shuffle with that. We get to a third 394 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: party situation, you put out a fene out with your 395 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: production whatever I want to take. He gave him a 396 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: number and then my people drove out that with a 397 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: bag you know what I'm saying two hundred fifty thousand, 398 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: and you know what I did. Don't look around and 399 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: about the soundtrack and the rest of that ship history. 400 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: That's really dope, man, that's real dope. Now you mentioned 401 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: KOC that's a part they called the medicine Men. Now 402 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: but beats By Palm Beach, Botta pump Boy, those boys 403 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: are some bad men. Ain't to this day, this day, 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: to this day. And um, I saw the sinction man 405 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: of No Limit Records. Man, to the point to where 406 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: you had people around the country wearing these chains. You 407 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: know you made it when you go to the ghetto stores, 408 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, the swap meets and whatnot, and you see 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: piece of security, what's your name and everything, and people 410 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: was walking around with No Limit change. You know, was 411 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: people going around saying they were signed to No Limits. 412 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that didn't know nobody at the 413 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: label talking about you. I'm signing you know. That was 414 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: that was a big thing. What's your most memorable moment 415 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: man from that? Because that was a monster. Um it 416 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: was huge being a part of such a label that magnitude. 417 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: My most memorable moment of that seeing people tattooed no 418 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: limit on their body when the fake chains just because 419 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: they if you're alligted to support something that speaks about 420 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: it speaks to the other, so their life. You know, 421 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: it was big man. It was motivational seeing people with 422 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: your your seen tattered on them, people with your lyrics 423 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: tattered on the You know, I remember the brother of 424 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: l A. I don't told me one day street life 425 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: my helper. Street life is like the Bible in the DMV. 426 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I was like, damn found you know, I mean just think, man, 427 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: I could have not turned that album and you know 428 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So just the whole thank period man 429 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: um one vivid memory I have its Puffy walking with 430 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: us P Diddy, Sean Combs walking with us through the airport. 431 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: It's sixty three of us right walking to the air 432 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: party but catch a plane at one time, right Busly 433 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: come up to me and said, say, bro, hi, and 434 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: the fuck is y'all not getting in trouble? You know 435 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: how to fund is y'all even keeping this ship to gather? 436 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Dog Like? How the fund is y'all getting alone? What? Then? 437 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: And I remember telling them that, you know, we got 438 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: number loving respect for someone we deem to be the 439 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: leader of this company, and that type of love and 440 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: respect is going to drive the driver for us to 441 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: continue to get us from point eight to point B. 442 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's just what that is. 443 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: Then I said, look at all guards children walking together. Man, 444 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: I can just lose puff Derman, I can just lose. 445 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: But he like he's crazy. Man. He says, all right, Dad, 446 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: I gotta play in the car. And that was that, 447 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I do one of 448 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: those moments that made me say, um, it's bigger than life. 449 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, did it every did it at any 450 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: point ever seemed surreal to you, Like, like, man, this 451 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: is really happening. This is really going down. Um they 452 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: had to be one time being in Cleveland, or one 453 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: time being in Ohio or somewhere, and um, I just 454 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: dropped there in that family and we had a show 455 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: and this arena had the whole twenty thousand people easy 456 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: monsip was huge, and I'll never forget. The promoter was 457 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: He's like, man, he's getting U an advanced stuff, MANU. Man, 458 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: were so happy to have y'all here, He said, well shame, 459 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh they're waiting on you. He said, Oh, 460 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: they're waiting on you. And you know we all equal 461 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: in our camp. We you know, we're not children. We 462 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: know who these are. We know the Millers. You know, 463 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: well we got our we have our protocol and we 464 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: have you know, we equal as playing it. But when 465 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: he said that, I was like word. I got on 466 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: stage to perform and I saw this as huge as 467 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: posted with like ten people holding that bitch. I don't know, 468 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what they got it from me. It 469 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: was like they must have made it was still it 470 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: was huge, bro, And that many people are more holding 471 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: it in the crowd together of theirs on their family. 472 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: And I just will never forget but that the crowd. 473 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I have never heard that many people screaming or you 474 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: at one time, you know what I'm saying at that moment, 475 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that time and that place, that kind of let me 476 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: know like like wow, like you got that ship off, bro, 477 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: like and you vent it, you know, because my album 478 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: was a lot of event you know, you know what 479 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: I mean? C J said, You know what he from 480 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: County said, You know what polic be It all boils 481 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: down to nything, you know, you know, boils onto the 482 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: editor when you see this, man, let's gonna look way 483 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: different than what you think it is. Man, it's gonna 484 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: look like a movie. You know what I mean? That's 485 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: it supposed to be baby a movie every time with 486 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: link up the show man. So you don't know limit records. Man, 487 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Everything is going good man. Then it starts to beat 488 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: rumors of the sinction. Man. You know it's rumors that 489 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: beats by the pound, maybe leaving no limit very very 490 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: pivotal part of important part of the label. It was 491 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: a producer driven label and y'all had very incredible lyricist. 492 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: I don't think no limit it's the credit sometimes for 493 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the lyricists they had. You know you of course you 494 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: were a monster off Youah mcnick a rep and me 495 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: and x Is probably I would have to put her 496 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: in my top five mcs man me x is hard man. 497 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Max is the beast bro. She regards of agenda, She 498 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: get the job done. She had one on want to 499 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: burn me? And ex is very very man, very um. 500 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to say underrated, mankas y'all 501 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: was pushing out golden platinum records. Man, so people you 502 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: know people's vibe, Man, But I don't hear her mention 503 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: as much as she possibly should be. I'm happy brought 504 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: that up. I think it's a Southern thing, man, or 505 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe the relationships was it was a Southern thing. I 506 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of people didn't look at lyricist as 507 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: from the South, like a lot of people from the 508 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: South when they think of lyrics, they think of scar 509 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: face and sometimes as far as the other beholder, you 510 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that's how that went for 511 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: a long time, and until people realize the ex is 512 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: the fens, the max the mysticals, you know what I'm saying, 513 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: um and so forth. You know, there's a gang of people. 514 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: We'd be here all day. But um, when they mentioned 515 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: these um hip hop legend tours and stuff, I said 516 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: that they leave a lot of people love. But once again, 517 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: it just must be of another person's perspective of balls 518 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: down to the promoter. You know, Yeah, I think that's 519 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: what it is. Man. So we have this thing, man, 520 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: What was your thoughts in your mind when you start 521 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: hearing this stuff, man? Like, because the situation was pretty 522 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: much going perfect. What was going through your mind when 523 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: you heard the feats by the planet may lead the 524 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: label well, I was right there, so if I heard it, 525 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: I heard it from directly from where saying like, remember 526 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: it was a Rookling award I saw on someone through 527 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: a stone. Yeah, I mean so. Um. When I saw 528 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: that the label was having in differences, I didn't know 529 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: how to set people down. I didn't know how to 530 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: set people down. I wish I had known how to 531 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: set people down and just kind of move forward about 532 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: this because it was all about a conversation, and I 533 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: just think that sometimes people was just steering things up 534 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: instead of you know what I'm saying, like making sure 535 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: that they had clarity there. And when you don't have clarity, 536 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you have pollution. You know. Hm, I was right there, exactly, man, exactly. 537 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Do you, in your heart of hearts man, really feel 538 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: like if that situation could have been talked out, something 539 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: could have been king, you know, some kind of resolution 540 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: could have been made. I really feel I think it's 541 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: two outlooks of it, you know, two perspectives. I think 542 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: that if the powers of the label would have excuse me, 543 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: if the powers of the label could have possibly got 544 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: out of the way of wearing the hat of who 545 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: they were and possibly of the production would have had 546 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to have transparency on where they are today and 547 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: what's going tomorrow. I think things could have easily been 548 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: ironed out, but it takes, you know, getting out those egos. 549 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting or belittle in anybody, but I'm quite 550 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: sure at the height of your career it's kind of 551 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: hard to humble yourself to sit down and see what, 552 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, what are people immediate needs, desires or where 553 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I could make things right for them, you know what 554 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And the no limit thing. I really do 555 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: believe things could have possibly been worked out and it 556 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: would have been a greater good. But I think we 557 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: didn't have a closer connection we used to have. We 558 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: didn't have as we didn't have as closer for connection 559 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: we thought we had. At one time we could talk 560 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: direct you know, to pee on some things. And then 561 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: it started he kind of delegating power. We got to 562 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: go through this just this, you know what I'm saying, 563 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: That they ain't really high it was at first, you 564 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think the certain things 565 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: men growing as a business, you know what I mean, 566 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: it just got a little different and a little weird. 567 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's not pointing the fingers that nobody is 568 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: just that. Um. I think Cats was just too young 569 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: to know any better. Bro. Yeah, And what it sounds 570 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: like to me is that the label was growing, man, 571 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: and Pete probably started delegating more duties to people because 572 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: he can only wear so many heads. You know, at 573 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: that time, he was you know, playing basketball, doing different things, 574 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, shout out the peat, um, you know, brilliant 575 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: business man he did, right, you know, he brought something 576 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: new to the game. It was an inspiration to probably 577 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: several new ceo is coming in the game. Yeah, you 578 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: know what, But I gotta be Yeah, this is just 579 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: me personally. Everyone runs their business how they choose to 580 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: run their business, M and I and and I know 581 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: no one likes to reflect on the past on that 582 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: type ordeal, but me personally, personally, I really think that 583 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: the personal touch of the things that what he had, 584 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: it's what made the people work and give the best 585 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: vibrations of theirselves. Yeah. Through that, And I think when 586 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: that personal attention left, I said to just meet. I 587 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: think that when you don't have clarity, you can only 588 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: have pollution. Man. That's deep, that's deep. So what that 589 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: point did you decide to say, you know what, I've 590 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: ran my course over at No Limit. It's time for 591 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: me to make some other moves because I'm pretty sure 592 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: that you were in demand at the time. Um, what 593 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: I had got to a point was as far as 594 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: having any type of musical life outside of No Limit, 595 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: it was I had a baby on the way, and 596 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: I just couldn't predict how I was gonna eat. You 597 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I don't know what No Limit 598 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: had going on to when I couldn't, um predict making 599 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: some type of income our livelihood. But I didn't wait 600 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: a point the finger neither. You know what I'm saying, 601 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: I won't had a meeting. Yeah, I won't have to 602 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: meeting with Percy. And he gave me the room. He 603 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: cleared everybody I would ask because they leave. I was 604 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: grateful for that. You know, he asked me. You know, 605 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: we went to talking and we had our conversation, and 606 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: I just wasn't getting the clarity I needed as a man, 607 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: you know, twenty one years of age, about to have 608 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: his first child. You know, girlfriend eight months pregnant, and 609 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: you know she asking how we're gonna eat. You know 610 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I couldn't burden him with my 611 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: life outside of business. So you know, I had asked him, 612 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, to be a kid. I put out an 613 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: independent project and titled Can I Burn? I figured, I 614 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: put me on the independent project. Maybe maybe I get 615 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: me some money from somewhere. You know, I wasn't super 616 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: smart on what to do with money. Then it was 617 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: either you did music or you know, because you know 618 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: all the wrong people with the right prices, you're gonna 619 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: get out of the street. You know what I'm saying. 620 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: M hm. So I ended up realizing the safest place 621 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: for me to be, for me to be the best 622 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: version of myself or not calls home to others and 623 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: people that I love and not cause people to be 624 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: stressing about me, was to stay in my ass in studio. 625 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: I stay in my yeah, stay in my essent studio. Man. 626 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: And I end up putting on independent projects and I 627 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: became a meeting after the limit, you know what I'm saying. 628 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, I just looked at it like I got 629 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: my Noloman University diploma and I did something my diploma, 630 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, who's to say how 631 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: that ship was supposed to go who's it? Everybody look 632 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: at things differently, man. I look at it like if 633 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: I would have been compensated X, Y and Z, who's 634 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: to say I wouldn't have had a crazy drug happening 635 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: some ship. Yeah that's real, man, that's real. So you know, 636 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: after you left No Limits Records, you know you want 637 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: to started your own label when you put out can 638 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: I burn the record for the record? I didn't like 639 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: leave like you know, like, okay, this is over. I 640 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: literally started a label to put out an independent project, 641 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: to hold myself over as you should have. That's that's 642 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: all it was, was, you know what I'm saying. And 643 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: then it eventually got taken as that because I didn't 644 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: resign the new contracts. Oh so you were we offered 645 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: a chance opportunity to sign again with no one. Yeah, 646 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: I was offered. I just my lawyer didn't care for 647 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: the contract, and I expressed myself that, you know, and 648 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: it gets to be in certain remarks and things. I 649 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: guess it's all business. It wasn't. It wasn't coming out 650 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: of PEM, out of person millits, but it was just reps. 651 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, they're doing they're supposed to do. Get this 652 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: sign keep it moving and saying I just like this, 653 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm not signed in this. My lawyer told him another signs. 654 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, like I said, we didn't have it's personal, 655 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, see about the type of situation that we 656 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: had at one time. So I had to deal with middleman. 657 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: And I'm quite sure when my message got relaid back 658 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: it probably came all sassy, you know kind of way exactly, 659 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: and you know that's called corrupt communication. Man. Yes, the pollution, 660 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: you know exactly. And so you know there was something 661 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: I saw. Man. Eventually you want to do the situation 662 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: with rough riders? Oh yeah, shout out the Windy Day, 663 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: j KA training, rest in Peace, um, shout out the 664 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: Moosa um from Shout the y and d Dean Chavanne, Keisha, 665 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: Elima Deen, Papa, Dian, Mama Den They're my favorite deans Jervy. Yeah. 666 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: So so they approach you. How did that come about? 667 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: It came about by signed a rough rider? Is that 668 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: when they did ask me that I want to be famous, 669 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: that I want to be rich, and I told her, 670 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: I honestly prefer to be rich, you know what I'm saying. 671 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: So I end up mortgage in my house and put 672 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: out a project can I burn? And it caught the 673 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: likes of why from rough Rider and we end up 674 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: was talking a little bit and not expressed to him 675 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: that things just wasn't going the way I would hope 676 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: it would win at no limit. I just couldn't get 677 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: the clarity I needed to know what was promised tomorrow. 678 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: And what happened was rough Rider say, DMX was doing 679 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: more movies. So if you know, if you're interested in 680 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: working with us, like we interested in working with you, 681 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: it might be perfect because this powerhouse voices going districtly 682 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: films and you've been a powerhouse. Who's to say what 683 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: this might be? You know what I'm saying. So that 684 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: was my That was a j of me signing the 685 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: rough Rider was because X is about to go through 686 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: movies for a time, so you know what we're gonna do. 687 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: And like ship, who could run this ship? I mean, 688 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: like the world eat this up? B Yeah, exactly, man, exactly, man. 689 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: And I always thought that that was really dope. Man, 690 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: how you went over there, But I'm gonna tell you 691 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: where you really killed them at Man, when you got 692 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: with the boys from Memphis, Tennessee, Bro and you start 693 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: putting out those here buses at Bro, that's when I 694 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: made money for It's what I made money for real, 695 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: like liquid money for real, Like you're getting rappid money, 696 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. I went My brother 697 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: Musa told me three six months he had a concert 698 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: at the House of Blues and we should go. And 699 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: that's your boys, you know what I'm saying that and 700 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: your people, you know what I mean, Let's go see 701 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: And we weren't see him after the concert. Who was 702 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: talking it would be geeked over to see each other, 703 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: like you've got real hip hop kids. Brover me and 704 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Paul to this day and were like, Bro, you and 705 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Ludicrous the only dudes I know that he used a 706 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: song as a reference for every guy there that you're 707 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, it's just hip hop babies. We 708 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: love these people, bro. Him and Juicy loved these people. 709 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: So he was like, man, what if y'all did an 710 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: album with each other? Do that? What have you did? 711 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: Help them with each other? And uh, Paul was like, yeah, 712 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: that'd be dope, just like ship. That's that's cool. Right. 713 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: So this is this Saturday, right, So we're gonna start 714 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: on the album Monday, all right, okay. Monday, they didn't respond. 715 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: They was, you know who just say what? Right? They 716 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: means Bright? Still Tuesday, I showed up to their studio, Dope, 717 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: I remember the code to get in the fence, still, 718 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: to get in the in the in the in the 719 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: parking lot. Still. So you just popped up up that said, 720 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here. What's up that boy? Paul told 721 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: me thing. I love you Bright, I love you Bro, 722 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: I love you Dog. I'm about to give you all 723 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: these beats in this briefcase right now to record of 724 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: this project we're about to do. He said, this is 725 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: beats for like one project that was getting ready to 726 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: put out. It was huge something things, getting ready to 727 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: put out your He said, about to give you all 728 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: these beats for this Still I knocked out eight songs, 729 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: excuse me, eight songs, and one day I had none 730 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: of his pre written, none of this premeditated eight songs. 731 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: One day right there was like they called my brother. 732 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: Moose said, Moosa, what the fund is y'all feeding this nigga? 733 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: This nigga knocked out the half of fun album or 734 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: better and it's we're still in this bit. He're like, man, 735 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: he bro, you know what I'm saying. Still, it was 736 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: so bad. Me and my dad had played the PlayStation 737 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: mad whoever one got the hotel bear because we shared 738 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: one room, m D. My daddy was traveling everywhere. That's 739 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: my dad, Bro, my dad trap. Yeah, Bro, Look and 740 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: when I got there, my truck broke down once I 741 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: got the Memphis, so you were stuck there? Uh yeah, no, 742 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: Look at God work. The truck got me into the studio, 743 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: but my truck broke down at the hotel, so I 744 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be embarrassed in front of these gentlemen. That's 745 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: that's how guy worked. Man, that's God. That's the most 746 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: haze favor. He got you where you needed to be 747 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: at and see the situation. Bro. The second day knocked 748 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: out five six most songs, right is it? Hold on? Bro? 749 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: When laying versus A None of these ships, it's just 750 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: you with all these you with all the songs. I said, well, um, 751 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: it's all good man. We need to wrap this ship 752 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: in and turn into select though. Yes, Bron, he said, 753 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: we got a concert in Knoxville or some ship and 754 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: we'll come back and we'll finish it with the mixing, right, Son, 755 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: Never done before I get on their tour bus to 756 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: go with them to Nashville, nice Ville Son. I got 757 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: on stage with these men doing backups and everything though 758 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: like I was one of the artists. That's just I've 759 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: been like, you know what I'm saying, Like we don't 760 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: really see ourselves how the world made see us? You 761 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I enjoyed myself. Bro. Paul 762 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: was like, I cannot believe you did the ship. Huh. 763 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Three six Mafia they're 764 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: known for being um. They had that independent game figured 765 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: out early. You know, they figured it out early because 766 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: they were making you know, those dudes with millionaires, I think, 767 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: come to the high school. Yes, that's let's let's let's 768 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: put it out there. Yes, let's be clear they were millionaires. 769 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm not asking before any deal arrives anything. Nate, you 770 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: know the genius businessman, underrated businessman select though he's also 771 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: genius business that assisted them to distribute those projects to 772 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: get it. Yes, and he's still doing and I think, 773 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: and I believe to this day, Paul is still doing 774 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: work with Selected hits. I am too, is that right? 775 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: A good distributor? And and they weathered the storm a 776 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of money was made. Um, I don't think people 777 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: realized the amount of money that was made. And I 778 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: could tell you from my own personal experience. I brought 779 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: my house and purchased my first piece of property. Everything 780 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: goes everything good that came to be from the music 781 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: industry with stuff I was doing on my own. The 782 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: minute it went left was when I started messing with 783 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: them companies, messing with the major labels. You know why. 784 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes they got so many hidding agendas and fees and 785 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,479 Speaker 1: things that we are of yours too. So the whole 786 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: thing is the high ship here and get wealthy while 787 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: we are oblivious. They start off meaning, well you're me, 788 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: and they figured that. You know, you're just a team 789 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: and do what you're gonna do. Select though its you know, 790 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: it was just different. You know, we got eight dollars 791 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: off of unit, you know, seven hours off, some seven 792 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: out figure sent off for unit. You know, when you sell, 793 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred thousand units independently, somebody gonna know 794 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: you there's something two hundred fifty dollar units independent, somebody 795 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: gonna hear about it. You feel me, And I think 796 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: that's just what happened. You know, these other companies that 797 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: get it. They just got their own agenda. But independently, 798 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: you're able to touch a little bit more, and so 799 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: a dollar means that much more to you, you know 800 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, most deals when we get 801 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: the companies are glorifying loans. So but according to the 802 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: way you are, I think would be a real booster 803 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, yeah, it depends on where you at. 804 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: Like you said, it depends on where you had in life. 805 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: I know, someone, why don't you really start establishing that 806 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: this is your career. You want more consistency than anything else, 807 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, especially when you start getting married. When you 808 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: have a wife, you have children, you have responsibilities, you 809 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: have a mortgage. You're not a little kid. I have 810 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: certain responsibilities I know with my household. If my wife 811 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: asked me, hey, when is this coming in? Or when 812 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: is that coming? And I need to be able to 813 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: explain that detail, you know, and I need to be 814 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: able to produce it because the thing else, the bills 815 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: don't stop. It's not like we get a reprieve because 816 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: oh man, they're messing with the money over here. So 817 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: I'll pay you when I get this. It don't work. 818 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: The fifth nobody cares about that stuff. You know, they 819 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: don't care, bro. Like I learned that hard from They 820 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: don't care. Bro, they don't care, and they don't care. 821 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: I got some real hard, real hard life lessons, bro. 822 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: Like oh like accountants that stole money that weren't even 823 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: suitable for the job, all kind of stuff, bro Like 824 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: you just you know what I'm saying. Um, And a 825 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: lot of times I actually won't fix that ship myself. 826 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: How you think you fix things in the street? You 827 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I used to have it, you know, 828 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: in some of the words, I used to have it 829 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: sucked up, you know what I'm saying. And then I 830 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: started realizing, what did you really miss? You know what 831 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's what you really miss. You don't know 832 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: if you got, uh the opportunity not to waste your 833 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 1: time somewhere from that not happening, you know what I'm saying. 834 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: And this is another note which has nothing to do 835 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about now. I tell my guys in the streets, 836 00:48:52,640 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, they tell me, you know some money that 837 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I said, So, so I'm 838 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: let me get this right. You want your money or 839 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: do you want to be a murderer, which which one 840 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: you're doing? Because if you still want your money, how 841 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: you how you gonna get it? You know? From the corpse? Yes, 842 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: I was like, so to hear it out loud, I 843 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: can see my brothers are really like processing what it 844 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: is to make decisions off emotion. Well, you know, most 845 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: of our brothers lead from emotion, and that's why we're 846 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: in a position that we're in. And a lot of times, um, 847 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: everything is about communication too, because I've seen people expect 848 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: money when they don't really have money coming in, and 849 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, they think that just like you know what, 850 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: I think some people have this, especially with the stuff 851 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: I do. I have to tell some of my guys like, dude, 852 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: you haven't did anything in two months, but check you 853 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: expecting something? But I'm the only one kicking me and 854 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing all the work and everything, So you really 855 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: pretty much expect me just to give you something, just 856 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: to be giving it to you. You're not. You're not 857 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: putting in what you're expecting out of it, and that's 858 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: not and it's not fair. And um, the biggest thing 859 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,959 Speaker 1: I've learned is just to be fair to everyone. Treat 860 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: everyone like you would yourself. If me and you do 861 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: something together and it's the expectation that we're splitting this 862 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: in half, that means equal work has to go into it. 863 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 1: It's not that we're splitting something and I'll do all 864 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: the work I and cure all the costs. No, we're 865 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: a full partnership. If something's go cost a thousand dollars 866 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: to that means I need five hundred from you. Since 867 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: we're getting the half for this. You understand what I mean. 868 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: We both need to be equally yoked in the situation. 869 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: UM And I think that's the bad. The worst part 870 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: about our people nowadays, man, is that we don't communicate, 871 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: and most of us expect something from nothing. I think 872 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: that is the biggest problem with most people because being 873 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: a young man UM not knowing how to communicate. That 874 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: was the only thing that happened from not wanting communicating 875 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: being embarrassed. Now you want to fight, I don't want 876 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: to put out the sticks because you don't have the 877 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes the communication skills are the education to have some 878 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: decent dialogue with somebody behind the business. So you know, 879 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: you feel uh, you feel disrespected because you may not 880 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: be to make out the words you feel belittle because 881 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: you're not going to communicating. You know, most people don't 882 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: know that it's okay to agree to disagree, and most 883 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: people don't know one of the most powerful things is 884 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: to be able to coexist, you know what I'm saying, Like, 885 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: And I think that's what most about people being messed 886 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: up on, like you know what I'm saying, Like you know, 887 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: like you know I don't I don't sit around and 888 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: play god. So you know, I can't tell another person 889 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: what to do, but I don't sit around and play guy. 890 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm just gonna do my part. 891 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: Throughout all these companies that I've worked with, communication is 892 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: one thing that I've always brought to the table. And 893 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: I can't even pride myself of spirit and that there's 894 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: nobody of a guard making me sit down and want 895 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, making me sit down and listen, 896 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: making me sit down and um assess things and give 897 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: myself options. And in business, a man with options is 898 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: a man that wins. You know what I mean exactly? Well, 899 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: you know I want to talk to you about that 900 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: because you have steps. You do a lot of stuff 901 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: outside the rim of just being a rapper. You're a 902 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: producer A and R. I want to delve into that 903 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: a little bit. Tell me about that, because you went 904 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: over to do a lot of work with Atlantic Records, 905 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: with a guy in particular, Mike Karen. How did that 906 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: situation come about? The situation working as an n R 907 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: producer writer for Mike Kring came about by brother DJ 908 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: spin down in New Orleans. Had Mike Mike came in 909 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: town to do something. Maybe he was getting some DJs. 910 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,439 Speaker 1: Maybe he was personally just putting his ears, just trying 911 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: to test the waters out and spend cooking entertaining. Mike Karen. 912 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: He has something to do, so he got it with 913 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: my brother Moosa, who is part owner of Jet Life Records. 914 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so proud of him of 915 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: what he has become. Like you know what I'm saying, 916 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: like so so so proud when I pride myself up 917 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: seeing potential and somebody and telling them, no, dog, you 918 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: need to be doing this, you know what I'm saying. 919 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: So Moosa been a good brother and also my manager, 920 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: drove Mike Karen to Baton Rouge. I was already working 921 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: with Kelc at his house. Um Enters Moosa and Mike 922 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: Karen and they walk in and he meets since Kelsey. 923 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: He's like, kell see, I'll let me get some beats 924 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: for some things I got going on. I'm sitting in 925 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: a little half bathroom at cal Studio, rolling weed up 926 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: and just writing. So he peeps in there. You're like, oh, 927 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 1: what's up, man? I said, what's up? Are you doing? 928 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: Somebody caring? I said, what's uthing? Thing? And most just like, 929 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: this is a writer's guy's been ghostwriting for you know, 930 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ship that you know that's made millions, 931 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: so Blad and the Gold repetitiously. So he was like, yeah. 932 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: He's like, uh um, I'm looking for a single for 933 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: Trainer for this uh a little movie we couldn't together 934 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: call Knocked Up. It's a comedy, you know. I said, okay, cool. 935 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: He's like, then you could do something for that. I said, yeah, 936 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I work on something. I wrote this song 937 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: called shake It. You know what I'm saying. I want 938 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: me to do a little chance. But you know wrote 939 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: this dream of training right she knocked it out the park. Bro. 940 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: Mike then says, wait a minute, Ship this this possibly 941 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: might be a single for the soundtrack was like, are 942 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: you signed anybody you know? And I was like, I 943 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: think I would want to work with you. Man, Um, 944 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the first signing as a writer to 945 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: APG if you'd be willing to work with me. And 946 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: I was the first writer he signed, along with Bruno Mars. 947 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, flew me out there to CALLI. 948 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: I worked at as he had a house. Uh, I 949 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: want to an apartment, but kind of a house, apartment 950 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: that he shared with a roommate, right, And I remember 951 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: cutting vocals at his house. You know what I'm saying. 952 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: I remember him his dad's a doctor, right. I remember 953 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: him drinking these green juices, saying he was doing soup 954 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: so just juice, and he wasn't feeling well. When when 955 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: when this occurs for him, this is what his dad 956 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: tells him to do. I thought that was so cool. Man. 957 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: Your dad is a physician. He's telling you how to 958 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: heal yourself. I'm like, so, me and Mike just we bounded. 959 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: We were cool. Man. It might be throwing a football 960 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: outside the studios, dude, figure who then is Mike playing 961 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: football with? You know what I'm saying. They see him 962 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: differently and know him or whatever he did. Um, we 963 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: did a gang of hit records with each other. Bro, 964 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 1: gang of hit records I brought to I brought him 965 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: drummer Boy. He paying my shorties single? Was he paying flies? 966 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,479 Speaker 1: M M I was able to get Pimcy his first 967 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: feature when he arrived on the streets from jail with 968 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: t I with many fresh reproducer from back side to side. 969 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I introduced Mike carrying the 970 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: Gucci man. You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna go 971 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: to your man. Still want foot in the trap? You 972 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I gotta I gotta opportunity 973 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: to do a lot of cool things. Also kind of 974 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: like being like a mascot Atlantic Records with my brand 975 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: and who I am. You know what I'm saying, Because 976 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: once we walked in some of these rooms, they'd be like, 977 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: oh ship you hear man, shoot me a contract? I know, 978 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: he hear. You know what I'm saying, that type, you know? 979 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: So I was grateful. I did a lot of right 980 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of righting, bro, a lot of righting um, 981 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: and we did well. And look at Mike Karen today, 982 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: he uh, he's a go getter and a hustler. He 983 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: just did some type of crazy two D fifty three 984 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollar deal with Atlantic Records. You know, UM, 985 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: kudos to Mike once again, UM getting himself that much 986 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: more solidified and another realm of business, you know what 987 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, that's how became a writer, UM artists. 988 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: Actually as an artist with Atlantic, it was gonna sign 989 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: as International Jones UM. But once I signed, there was like, Um, 990 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: were by the stuff doing these three sixty deals And 991 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that you're going to be fond of that. 992 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: So how would you like becoming an A and R? 993 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,479 Speaker 1: So you chose the A in our position of course? 994 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, because three sixty deals, you know, expounding 995 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: that a little bit for the people out there that 996 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: may not be privy to what that deals. A three 997 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: sixty deal in the music industry means that you are 998 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: totally in business with the record company, dealing with every 999 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: aspect of your life, your likeness, on your merchandise and 1000 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: your touring, publishing, everything that comes as far as making 1001 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: an income off of being an artist. Now the label 1002 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: is a partner with your fifty fifty if not more 1003 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: of a three sixty deal. Oh wow. So a lot 1004 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: of people don't understand. See how managed artists. And I 1005 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: tell artists all the time, I say, what you may 1006 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: be happy with signing today, that may get you out 1007 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: your little situation, that may put it. It's like putting 1008 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: a bandit in the bullet wound, because eventually, once you 1009 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,919 Speaker 1: start understanding things, once you take care of those little 1010 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: bills and stuff, and you come to the reality that 1011 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm literally being robbed right now. It's not too cool. 1012 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: It's not the bills. Don't stop. The bills, don't stop. 1013 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: What advice would you give to any person trying to 1014 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: pursue this industry? My advice to anybody that's looking to 1015 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: pursue this industry three um. Since this is the information knowledge, 1016 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: I believe that there could be some little boys and girls, 1017 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: or young adults um or seasoned veterans that may just 1018 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: not know. So I'm gonna give you this because I 1019 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: feel like this was the spirit is telling me to 1020 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: tell you you no longer have to go to the 1021 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 1: street to raise money for your career. You no longer 1022 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: have to ask some one in the streets to raise 1023 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: money for your career. You can work on your credit, 1024 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: you can finance your own career. And once you build 1025 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: something that has value, companies will come to want to 1026 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: do business with you because they see the numbers. Without 1027 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: the numbers has knows value to them at all. You mean, 1028 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and anybody else, it's just another phase. Really, we all 1029 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: look like you know what I'm saying, and it's just 1030 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: another body. Um, So build your brand. You have to 1031 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: be a person that's so confident in what you're doing 1032 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: that you know that to determine sugar from soult and 1033 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: have patience, you know what I'm saying. Um, Sometimes to 1034 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: take a minute. You have to be adult enough. You 1035 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: have to be adult enough to know that if you 1036 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't have patience and you did take the short router, 1037 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: took the quick check that these are the repercussions that 1038 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: come from you did that you did and be an 1039 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: adult and growing up about it. Um, that would be 1040 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the advice I would give. And if you, if you 1041 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: have that type of patients, you'll be okay being in 1042 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: these realms knowing that they just can't entice you with 1043 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: things and that it's their job to entice you. You know, 1044 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: they're they're are the dealer, they are the house in 1045 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: the casino. Their job is to take that money from you. 1046 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's their job. Don't confuse 1047 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: the two. Very seldom you're gonna run across people that's 1048 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna care about your craft and want to help you, uh, 1049 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: help you. Nurture is the word I use it because 1050 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: every time I think about it, I think about little 1051 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: wayne artists that was nurtured, you know, and it surrounding 1052 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: to let them just be great. But even in the 1053 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: likes of that, things can go um a little different 1054 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: or difficulty until we have communications, you know what I'm saying. 1055 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: For sure, Man, Now before we go, I want to 1056 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: talk to you about this new thing that you've got 1057 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: going on. Man, you have a podcast. I got a podcast, Man, 1058 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I got a podcast called who Got That Fire? Maybe 1059 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: g d F? Who got that? Has been d A T? 1060 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Who Got Their Fighting? Podcast? Who Got? How long you've 1061 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: been doing that? So far? Um, I've been doing it. 1062 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I guess you could say somewhe professionally now maybe maybe 1063 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: a couple of months. Only because a young lady, she's 1064 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 1: like a sister to me. She always tell me that, Man, 1065 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: you need to be talking to some of these men 1066 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: out here of our relationship advice, or you need to 1067 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,439 Speaker 1: talking to my old man, you know what I'm saying. 1068 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 1: And I explained to them that it may sound good 1069 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: to you until it's in your pot, until it's on 1070 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: your plate. You know what I'm saying. The brads always 1071 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: look green acause the three I said, But you don't 1072 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: know what I did to get here, you know what 1073 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, you know, a man gotta humble himself. 1074 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: He definitely leads, but the woman hunts. You know what 1075 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We could learn from the lions. You know 1076 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We could really really learn from the line. 1077 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Respect go a long way, a real or a long way. 1078 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Like when I travel, I'd like to travel with women 1079 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: assistance and stuff like that, because I'm not about to 1080 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: be nowhere. There's a whole bunch of test outs, are 1081 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: nonsense going on. I'm saying, got a female DJ. You 1082 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it breaks the ice in 1083 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the room and eliminates a whole bunch of bs. Do 1084 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: because sometimes our our brothers, man, sometimes they full of it. Man, 1085 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: they can't help it. Bro It's it's uh they're fighting 1086 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: whatever they're fighting everybody is not gonna be a stand 1087 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: up person and say, Yo, I'm not in my best 1088 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: mood right now. I'm just not in the right space. 1089 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Can we reached this for tomorrow of the mentally? I'm 1090 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: just not in that space right now. To alleviate what 1091 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: was up with that person? Why was this person the asshole? 1092 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Why would you know what was going on with this 1093 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: he rubbed me the wrong way? You mad at yourself? 1094 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Now you want everybody be mad? I think um a 1095 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of people in the entertain an industry to do 1096 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 1: with uh therapy from one. I think a lot of 1097 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: brothers can do with therapy because these deals and promises, 1098 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: broken promises, this type of stuff, man, really scoring kids, 1099 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It breaks their trust, It 1100 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: breaks their motivation. It uh you know, it takes it. 1101 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: It just burns them to the ground. Bro. And also 1102 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: it takes from them the ability to discern when somebody 1103 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: is really trying to look out for them too, because 1104 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: they have this mistrust build in them to where you 1105 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: may start doing business with somebody that's broken and you 1106 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: may be building over backwards for him, but they think, 1107 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: in their mind, will it has to be something else 1108 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: to it. I've been done everywhere everybody, and it's hard 1109 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: for anybody. I've seen guys that I work with on 1110 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: a regular basis, but because of what uh their own 1111 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: perceptions of lowland and records, we can't get nothing done 1112 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: because they need their business straight, you know what I'm saying. 1113 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not I can't even be mad. I've seen 1114 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: brothers that work with companies and they just feel like 1115 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: this didn't go well. So we gotta get this history. 1116 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: But some great advice from my dad, Um God bless 1117 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: my dad, man Richard Jones, seeing Pops Pops and say, son, 1118 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: even a dime and block out the sun. You know 1119 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, getting into your life, you know something 1120 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: that small burn. So keep that in mind when you're 1121 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 1: looking to do business with people. You know, is the 1122 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: business of the fabric of the individual? Is that? And 1123 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: to have moments to when the fabricy got individual always 1124 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: the business, you know, and then they're gonna have moments 1125 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: when the business and our wag our perspective of the 1126 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: fabric of the individual. So but still the fabrican individual 1127 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: is important. Y'all need just come on one page. You 1128 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So It's just man. People make 1129 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: things complicated. You know, people literally make things complicated. You 1130 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, if we explained a lot 1131 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: of these things two people first, they can have the 1132 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: option of whatever they wanted to business with you. That's 1133 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: real talk, man. So I always finished every interview with 1134 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: a profound question, how do you want to be remembered? 1135 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: How do I want to be remembered? I want to 1136 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: be remembered as I meant, more good and bad.