WEBVTT - Jasmine Goode dishes on 'The Bachelor' vs. Bravo | Happy Hour 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.080 Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.120 I'm Rachel and I'm Chrudy. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.000 And today we have a very special guest from Bachelor 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.400 Nation but also from the Valley. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.520 Everybody, welcome Jasmine. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:17.520 Guys, how are you? 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.200 We are so good, We're so happy to have you. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.360 This is like really exciting for me because you're like 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.760 Bachelination og Royalty, you know, like way. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.520 Back yeah, throwback, and it's been like almost ten years anymore. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.199 I don't even know. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.920 It's crazy that it's been ten years because we watch 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.919 you on the Valley and you are so iconic. You 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.480 have a very deep history in reality TV. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.800 Yes, I have been around the world literally. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.960 Yeah, Like it weren't you on Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders like 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.640 the original original? 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.480 Yeah yeah, Tea, you had a show called Making the Team. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.200 So I haven't watched this Netflix one. I have no idea, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.480 but I see clips. I'm like, oh, they have no idea. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.559 What it used to be like on cmto the Team? Okay, 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:05.640 that was crazy. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.760 Making the Team was crazy. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.680 Yeah, it was no joke. It's like, I think the 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.240 things they did back then, they would cancel in a 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:15.920 heartbeat if they did it today. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.280 Because I've seen both, and I'm like, there is a 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:20.360 little bit of a contrast. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:20.840 I'm like, it. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.640 Still is like obviously very difficult to go through that process. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.440 And I'm like, back then, you guys are like up 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.280 there with America's Next Top Model. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.680 It was literally I'm like, I can't PTSD. I can't 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.920 even watch the new season on Netflix. I'm gonna trigger, 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.320 Like these girls got it so easy. Yeah, it was 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:40.720 a different time. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.080 Well, speaking of reality TV, I do want to go 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.720 back and get into all of that. But at the top, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.280 you just got married, and first of all, congratulations. Yeah, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.920 it has been amazing to watch you and Melissa and 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 see your relationship on screen. But I think everyone would 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.360 love to know when did you realize that this is 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.880 something different that she was the one? 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.160 Oh? I think so before I mean Melissa started dating, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.040 I was saying with for like five years, I was like, 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.880 I'm done with reality TV. I'm just gonna be single. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.440 I'm like, I'm gonna do this single thing by myself. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.640 And then she, you know, came out to La during 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.000 a pandemic and we went on this date and everything 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.520 about her I just loved. I mean I already knew 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.240 her prior to that because we grew up in the 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.280 same town she graduated with my brother, so I kind 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.120 of like knew who she was, but we didn't know 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.280 each other, and we kind of kept in contact on 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.120 like Instagram that was always flirting, but which we went 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.160 on our first date. Just something about her. I was like, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.720 I'm going to be in your life forever. I don't 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.080 know how how it's gonna happen, how is gonna happen, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:42.400 but you're gonna be my life forever. And I just 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.880 knew like she was somebody I wanted to like be with. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.079 But then the more we kept dating, kept dating, and 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.200 it was like, oh wait, I actually like love this person. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.560 And I was like, Okay, I think I just wanted 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.600 to like be with you forever. I just knew. It 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.799 was just something about her, Like you ever meeting the Lesslie, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.520 you'll understand she's just like the most amazing person human, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.440 Like everybody feel good, Jakes, you feel good. You just 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:03.880 want to be a better person because she like just 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.360 poured so much into you. Yeah, I just knew. Like 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.400 one of our third dates, I was like, yeah, I 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.280 think you're gonna be in my life forever, babe. Yeah, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.680 this is it and then she just moved to La 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.720 and then she never left totally. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.840 Like gay, this is so sweet. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.079 I'm like hearing you talk about her like I can 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.440 it just radiates off of you. When you guys were dating, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.639 like and obviously probably discussing maybe next steps for relationship, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.240 how did like engagement come up? Like did you guys 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.360 talk about maybe who was going to propose? Or like 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.640 was it a surprise for both of you guys? 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.480 Yeah, So actually Melissa was like kind of was like, 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.120 give me an ultimatum. Sort of she was like, look, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.280 I'm ready to get married and have kids. Because at 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.760 the time we were traveling, we were just like doing 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.880 so much and we were like we knew we were 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.720 like going and get engaged, but we just were like 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.760 doing so much. I weren't thinking about, oh, we actually 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.880 have to look at rings. So once she said she's like, 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.080 I really want to get engaged by you know, Christmas 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.040 all this stuff, and I'm like, we got to sit down. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.920 So we kind of went to gole look for the rings, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.400 decided which ones we like, and then she actually had 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.160 her sabbatical for work coming up, so we were like, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.920 this is the perfect time to take a long two 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.280 week trip somewhere and then possibly do it there. So 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.280 we went to Majorca and Lake Como and like Singapore, 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.320 all these different places, and then you know, I decided 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.840 to just do this in Mayorka, and then she decided 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.000 to do Lake Como. I actually lived to her. It 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.039 was like I don't have the ring. It's not ready. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.640 It's like I wanted to do with this trip, but 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.960 I'm so sorry it's not ready. And so I had 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.479 this whole like live set up. This photographer was like 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.520 waiting for us on this mountain clip. It was like 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.520 really beautiful, and yeah, she was like super surprised. So 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:38.839 it was really sweet. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:39.919 I love that. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.239 Yeah, so like a double engagement. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.000 Yes, that's even better. Like that is so fun that 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.880 you both got to do it. The world has obviously 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.400 watched you, you know, go into different love stories you 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.520 were on the Bachelor, But did this feel like a 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:58.440 big personal ship stepping into a queer relationship publicly or 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.480 was that like more of a natural evolution and for you? 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.359 Yeah, So when I was on the Bachelor, like I 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.800 remember interviewing dor my audition and like telling them like, yeah, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.960 like I date women too. I never watched a Bachelor 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.680 at the time, so I was like, is this like 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.919 a mixed type of thing. They're like, no, it's just 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.400 one guy and like, you know, twenty five girls. So 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.880 when I got off the Bachelor, I was like, you know, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.000 I the way, like there was so much attension around 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.000 like other my other friends who are in relationship with 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.919 like Raven and Adam, they were having so much attention 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.760 on their relationship. I'm like, I don't know if I 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.600 want to deal with that, like coming out. So I 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.520 was like anything I do now, I'm like keeping my 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.240 relationship private. I want to keep it like, you know, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.960 something special. And I always said I'm not doing any 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.800 more reality shows and then finally be down a relationship 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.880 and the value was presented to us. I was like, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.680 you know, this could be something that I think people 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.560 need to see. Like I was like, there's not many 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.839 like queer gay couples on TV or reality that I 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.039 have seen, and you know, we really sat and talked 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.920 about and I was like, this could be a way 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.039 to like, you know, give awareness and you know, show 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.080 people that like we are, yes we're gay, but you're 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.920 just like any other out there, Like we do the 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.279 same shit. We you know, want the same goals and 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.440 things in life. So I think we really wanted to 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.080 show that representation. So it was really nice that that 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.400 she was on board for because what's that didn't come from 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.279 like a TV background. She was like, you know, corporate early, 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.120 and so I was really nervous that it was like, 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.560 how is she going to react to that, you know, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.360 especially like being in this world and trying to be 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.960 accepted in her coming from a corporate world and I'm 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.120 in the reality space, but you know, I'm coming off 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.560 of like The Bachelor and everyone's thinking that I'm straight. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.279 It was like, Okay, what are people going to think? 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.920 Like is this going to be recepted the right way? 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.080 But I think you know, when I did, everybody was 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.520 very like welcoming and You're like, oh my god, that's 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.640 so sweet. I'm happy for you. So yeah, it wasn't 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.000 like a bad or weird transition or anything. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.320 Yeah, that's that's amazing. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.039 And I and I really do like think about obviously 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.680 you mentioning she comes from a corporate background and she's 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.760 like not in this space, and I could only imagine 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.599 how interesting that can be, like transitioning into this world 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.039 because as we know, it. It is so complex and 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.599 it comes with so many layers. How do you guys 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.080 support each other. I guess specifically with being in the 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.800 public eye and then also for you Jasmine as like 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.000 a black woman queer on reality TV. I'm sure that 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.760 comes with so many layers. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.480 Yeah, it's like it's crazy, I know with me and her, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.320 and we always have these conversations like when we went 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.240 into it, where like we have to be very open 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.200 and talk to each other, like always checking in because 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.760 with me, I'm just like, you know, I just go 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.520 for it. I'm like, say what I wanted to do 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.280 this and that, but I'm like, oh wait, now I'm 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.160 in a relationship, Like I have to think about her 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.760 as well, Like what like people are going to think 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.760 about her, what they're going to like give her, Like, 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.320 you know, I don't want her to get all this 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.600 hate and stuff. So it's one thing that we how 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.720 we navigate it just always checking in with each other, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.080 you know, and making sure like if this gets too much, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.880 then let's not do it. Like if it gets to 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.640 a point where you know, you really think that is 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.560 going to ruin our relationship, or it's something with your career, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.440 your family, then you know what, maybe we have to 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.600 take a step and either you step back and you're 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.600 not a part of it, or we both step back 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.840 because like to me, like she is so important and 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.320 takes like priority over all of this especially and also 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.200 like to answer about being you know, queer and black, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.680 like that's a whole nother like level too. It's like 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.640 I always feel like I have to like show up 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.880 a certain way or I have to like make sure 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.240 I'm representing for the black people but also making sure 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.960 I'm representing for the quirk or a few girls. There's 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.960 so many like different things like pressure. Sometimes I feel 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.640 like and there's moments where I'm like why do I 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.320 have to like be like that? Why do I have 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:29.640 to act this way? But I'm like I just want 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.600 to be me, So I kind of like have to, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.839 like when I'm filming, just tell myself, Look, this is 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.320 just who I am and how I'm going to be. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.319 And if like people don't get it, or if it 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.320 doesn't breathe the right way for the black community or 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.320 the queer community, then you know, I can't help it, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.840 because I really can't. You know, it is a reality. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.360 You cannot please everybody, Like somebody always have something to say. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.559 You're not black, you're you're hanging all the white people 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.720 in the valley, or you're you're gay, Like why are 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.520 you there? It's just so many things worry about. So 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.880 I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna do me 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.600 and I think I have Melissa. She's very good at 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.160 supporting me through it. But yeah, she's just honestly, she 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.000 doesn't truly care to be on the show. She's just like, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.640 I just want to be there for you. I'm like, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.199 thank you. I love doing this. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.440 Sweet that's very sweat I first of all, I think 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.000 you do such an incredible job bringing something different to 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.560 the valley. I think when I first heard about it, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.600 I didn't know what to expect, but you and Melissa 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.440 bring something that is so beautiful and wonderful. But what 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.160 is that like? Going from The Bachelor, which is about 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.160 dating and you're kind of in these fantasy situations and 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.880 now it's your real life. How has that been the transition? 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.480 It is so different. Like people always say, like, well, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.319 you're on the Bachelor, You're on TV. I'm like, no, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:41.240 like I was on a dating show. Like you talk 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.600 about your feelings, like I remember sitting actually being in 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.560 Saint Thomas or Afraid where we were. It was with 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.120 Vanessa and Danielle Malfie, and we were laying in the 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:55.280 bed sleeping and Vanessa's like, I think I'm in love 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.360 with Nick, and then Daniels, I think I'm in love 0:09:58.400 --> 0:09:59.960 with Nick too, And I just didn't have to say 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.880 because I was just like, you know, so I'm like, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.480 you're just competing kind of low key, but at the 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.440 same time, all you're doing is talking about your feelings, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.079 like you're not talking about anything else. I don't think 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.640 anybody asked me about my life, asking about like the 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.480 only thing that I knew I was actually dating a woman. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.920 Dating woman was like Jamie, Danielle, Dilo, and Raven, Like 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.120 no one else was like asking me deeper questions because 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.000 all we did was talk about Nick and love. So 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.560 coming off the Bachelor, going into or like, oh, like 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.560 every day situation where they're filming you nine to five, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.200 it's like it's kind of refreshing because it's nice that 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.920 you can like really show who you are, and that 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.120 was something I was really excited about doing the Valleys, like, yeah, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.520 people can finally see that, like I have a life, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.719 I'm not just the crazier who's drinking at popping off. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.080 Actually I'm cool because it's fun. So that's I think 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.680 that's the big difference, is like just showing your real life, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.240 which I love. Man loved The Bachelor too, but it 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.320 was just like it's too much, you guys know. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:06.240 Yeah, how was a difference there with like friendships? Like 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.400 is there anybody from your season or just even in 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.880 Bachelor Nation that you're like super close with still And 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.319 how does that differ from like. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.920 Obviously you're probably with the people in the. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.680 Valley so much throughout the year, Like how are those 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.720 friendships different? 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.160 Yeah, so I am still friends with Braven Gates, de Loo, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.120 Alexis Waters, Jamie King. Those are like my core from 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.120 the show where they were in my action, my wedding. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.120 So I think I'll they say like that's the best thing, 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:36.840 Like thank you, Nicky gave me that. That's okay. No, Yeah, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.920 having those friendships, I think we're so special because you know, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.559 when you're going with the Bachelor, like all you're you're 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.280 with them all day. You're with these girls all day 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.240 and you're not with the lead. So for me, it 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.720 was just like this is so special and then you know, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.079 transitioning coming to the Valley. It is also kind of 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.560 the same because you're with your friends you know, every day, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.679 but it's a different type of like friendship because here 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.240 it's like I feel like on the Valley, we have 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.920 to have deeper conversations, all drama things that you technical 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.280 maybe don't want to talk about. You got to go there. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:06.920 On the Bachelor, at least, it's like we're all talking 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.280 about the one same thing, and it's like no one's fighting. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.120 I mean you are fighting sometimes, but like you're not 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.599 fighting about like hey, like you know some drama that 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.959 we wo have on the Valley, you would never have 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.320 that on the mat The drama is definitely different. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.240 I think watching it, just the drama is that hard 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.160 to separate, Like what's happening on the show and where 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.240 that fighting is and then your friendship's in real life 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.720 or is that your real life like when you're actually 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:30.160 in a fight. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.200 No, it's real. It's definitely real, and it's so like 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.480 frustrating because for me, I'm the type of person where 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.920 I'm like, there's confrontation, I want to walk away. I 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.240 just want to like leave it. And that was my 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.480 problem with Janet, like I just never wanted to like 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.559 talk about it, and I like let it build up. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.120 And so when you're doing these types of shows, you 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.800 have to like really talk about it, even if you're 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.880 uncomfortable and it freaking sucks. Like I remember walking into 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.000 that beach scene with Janet when I called her Karen. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.440 I knew going into that I had to have this 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.760 conversation like the producers like you have to talk to 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.720 you have to Like I'm like, I don't want to 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.240 do this, Like I just don't want to see about it. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.880 It was so uncomfortable and I'm like, all right, I 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.319 get let's just go like you want jazz and good, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.360 here we go. Like it was just like that's kind 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.400 of annoying, but it's like, you know, you have to 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.080 do it, so you just kind of have to walk in. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.280 But yeah, it's yeah, so it's just a it's hard 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:20.880 time sometimes. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.920 Was there ever like a segue but before the Valley, Like, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.199 how did you get immersed like within specifically this group 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:28.760 of people? 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.520 Yeah, okay, so let me think back. Yeah, so I 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.760 after The Bachelor, I moved to la like a lot 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.400 of people do, and I met someone who was like 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.719 dating James Kennedy kind of and then we became roommates. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.640 And then I met Jesse Montana who was on Vanderpaul Rolls, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.600 and he's like, hey, we're looking for a host that sir, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.120 And I was like, I need a job. Started working 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.400 there and that's kind of how I met everybody and 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.560 kind of got met Ariana. We became friends, and then 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.280 I wasn't really good friends to Brittany or Jack's, but 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.880 it was me and she and he became like really 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.120 best friends. And then they were trying to get me 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.240 on the banner Pump and I was like, I'm not 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.880 doing you know, my reality TV. I said, I'm done, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.520 Like it's over, Like I'm I'm just going to work. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.200 I'll be friends with all you guys. I'll come in 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:18.160 the background watch all that. But then like flash for 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.400 a couple of years later, they were talking about making 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.800 The Valley and Janet hit me up and I was like, hey, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.360 Brittany wants to throw your name in for like the 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.560 interviews who they're looking for another couple and we think 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.320 you and Melissa will be great. And I was like, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.360 you know what, maybe this could work. I said, if 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.600 I do anything else reality wise, I want Melissa to 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.440 be on board, and I want to make sure like 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.320 we're showing like my ro authentic self, like I don't 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.080 want to do a game show anything like that, and 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.480 so it kind of like aligned. But then like a 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:44.960 whole year went by and they were like, we're not 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.520 you know, I didn't hear anything. So I was like, oh, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.800 it's not happening. And then Melissa went on to do 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.720 squid Games and then you know, then oh thank god, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.440 she still got to do the Valley a little bit. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.200 I was nervous that, you know, her doing that with 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.000 the contracts that she wasn't going to be able to, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.920 but they let her do it, and I was like, yay, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.360 thank god, so it all worked out. Yeah, that's kind 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.640 of I got it. She all roads lead back to Shina. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:04.720 Wait, I'm died. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.920 I know. I'm like class literally did something. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:12.480 He's iconic. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.680 I did not realize that you were working at SIR. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.600 I feel like you lived so many different lives. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.880 I it's crazy. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.720 I'm going to write a book. I swear you need to. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:24.280 Write a book. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.680 Were you working at SIR when you were on Bachelor 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.240 in Paradise? 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.120 No, I got the drop after but I knew everybody 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.720 at that time because I remember like meeting Faith and 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.040 La La and like and there was like drama going 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.280 on with Faith and I think Jackson think you're like 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.080 something going on there. But yeah, so I knew everybody 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:46.000 at the time. I didn't say until right after I know, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.080 and that's probably why they wanted me. I was like, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.560 I'm not joining the show, okay, I'm not just jumping into. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.400 I'm like, you were like the bone Carrier, you knew 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.600 everything that was going on being opposed. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.000 You to stand there so you get to see ever that's happening, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.560 Like Christ coming in not even working. Chris busted through 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.040 the door about the fight with James, and I'm like, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.840 what is happening here? Like it was like crazy, Yeah, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.000 this is yeah, Yeah, this is crazy. Yeah. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:12.000 Oh my gosh. What has it been like criticism wise? 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.240 Because I think when we put ourselves in this situation, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.000 we do open ourselves up to people talking about us. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.720 Has it been harder with your other shows or with 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:20.280 The Valley? 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.200 Oh? Man, I think The Valley is crazy. The fans 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.640 are just like insane. Brabo fans are really like yeah, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.280 next level. They are so invested. I think with the 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:37.640 Bachelor fans. I mean they are too, they were just different. Laugh. Yeah, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.040 they were just a little different. The fans were I 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.720 think here since they are like digging into your life 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.160 and they see more of you and like you kind 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.360 of like have just there's more opportunity sy like mess up, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.240 not mess up, but like you know, do something stupid. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:51.760 People are like, oh my god, but I'm the Bachelor. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.320 I just felt like it was more a little sweeter, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.120 so people were maybe a little like nicer things than 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.000 I think ABC fans are, yeah, a little more conservative, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.320 so like I don't know, but Bravo fans they just 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.879 they'll tell you straight to you you don't care. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.000 That's what I was gonna say. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.920 It was like, it's definitely because they have so much 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.920 more like information about your life. So it's like they're 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.720 more that people see about you. They can like you know, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:16.600 you know, come up with. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.240 These theories and nearness. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.399