Speaker 1: An hour two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: point one, Shawn, if you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program. There is a new survey out our friend,
Speaker 1: Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, and it says everything that you
Speaker 1: would expect, and you know, the headline is Insider Advantage
Speaker 1: National survey. Following the White House Correspondence dinner Assassination Attempt
Speaker 1: opinion shifts, Nearly seventy percent say that Congress should now
Speaker 1: fund the Department of Homeland Security. By the way, that
Speaker 1: includes the United States Secret Service, which according to my
Speaker 1: sources this week runs out of money. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is madness, this is insanity. Never mind the problems that
Speaker 1: we have pointed out. That they've got to sweep every
Speaker 1: inch of any area where a president is going to be.
Speaker 1: They've got to then secure and hold that area so
Speaker 1: that it doesn't get contaminated. Meaning once you sweep it,
Speaker 1: you just don't walk away. You've got to secure it,
Speaker 1: and you've got to stay there, and you've got a
Speaker 1: whole it. The idea that you know, we had Butler
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty yards away, guy just jumping up
Speaker 1: on a ladder. The perimeter is not big enough. We
Speaker 1: know what a big perimeter's like because I've been to
Speaker 1: rn C, DNC conventions and they have multiple perimeter layers
Speaker 1: that you know, can stretch out a half a mile
Speaker 1: to a mile away. I've been there, I've experienced it.
Speaker 1: I've been stopped four times to show my picture idea.
Speaker 1: I've had to empty my pockets two or three times
Speaker 1: to get into one of these conventions. They know how
Speaker 1: to do it. You know, Trump International, they have a
Speaker 1: known area paparazzi congregate. And meanwhile, they didn't sweep the
Speaker 1: area where where no people were right near where the
Speaker 1: holes of this golf course are.
Speaker 2: It's a layup shot.
Speaker 1: And if it weren't for one sharp eyed sacred service
Speaker 1: agent in that case, they, you know, the president could
Speaker 1: have been a catastrophe. Al the President came within a
Speaker 1: millimeter of losing his life in Butler. And in this
Speaker 1: particular case, how is it possible a guy can get
Speaker 1: that close to the ballroom. Nobody had swept the hotel
Speaker 1: at all. And that is the common theme in all
Speaker 1: three instances. It's got to change, and it's got to
Speaker 1: change dramatically. And the idea that we're in the middle
Speaker 1: of a war with Iran, the number one state sponsor
Speaker 1: of terror that has already plotted and planned and schemed
Speaker 1: assassination attempts against Donald Trump. And we're not taking these
Speaker 1: matters more seriously. This is a disaster in the making. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let me play for you, you know, the violent rhetoric
Speaker 1: of the left in this country. We've been playing it.
Speaker 1: Nobody else seems to want to play it. We will
Speaker 1: continue to play it.
Speaker 3: Listen, many of your fellow Democrats have used some heated
Speaker 3: rhetoric against the president.
Speaker 4: And do you think twice about that when something like
Speaker 4: this happens.
Speaker 2: What rhetoric do you have?
Speaker 5: It is Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans represented extremism
Speaker 5: that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
Speaker 3: You get, and you.
Speaker 6: Get, and you just back on them, and you tell them.
Speaker 2: Anymore anywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's so difficult for the press
Speaker 1: to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.
Speaker 2: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 6: We have a tim O Whittler in the White House
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 8: Yes. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up
Speaker 8: the White House.
Speaker 9: They're still going to have to go out and put
Speaker 9: a bullet.
Speaker 3: In Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: And that's a fact.
Speaker 1: When was the last time an actor assassinated the president?
Speaker 3: We do now live in a country that has an
Speaker 3: authoritarian leader in charge.
Speaker 2: He's just a vile creature, the worst thing on the
Speaker 2: face of the earth. But anyway, you think he's the
Speaker 2: worst thing on the face of the earth.
Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: And I love the Caroline Levitt yesterday calling out Democrats
Speaker 1: by name, just in the last week, in two or
Speaker 1: two that have been making these incendiary comments. It's always,
Speaker 1: you know, Nazi, fascist, racist, Estapo wash rints. Repeat this
Speaker 1: is dehumanizing and insightful rhetoric. There are sick people in
Speaker 1: this world. They know what they're doing. Anyway, let's play it.
Speaker 6: Pages and pages of major Democrat Party elected officials saying,
Speaker 6: such as RepA Keem Jeffrey is just this April this
Speaker 6: month said we are in an era of maximum warfare
Speaker 6: everywhere all the time. Governor Josh Shapiro said heads need
Speaker 6: to roll within the administration. Senator Alex Padia said people
Speaker 6: are quote dying because of fear and terror caused by
Speaker 6: the Trump administration. Senator Elizabeth Warren, President Trump is making
Speaker 6: the country look like a quote fascist state. Senator Adam
Speaker 6: Shiff saying President Trump using a dictator playbook. Senator Ed
Speaker 6: Markey calling President Trump a dictator, saying that this administration's
Speaker 6: actions are authoritarianism on steroids.
Speaker 5: Governor J. B.
Speaker 6: Pritzker. Never before in my life have I called for
Speaker 6: mass protest disruptions. These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
Speaker 6: You have Presley saying we'll see you in the streets.
Speaker 6: Ret Monica McIvor, a Democrat representative on Capitol Hill. We
Speaker 6: will not take this from Donald Trump. He thinks he's
Speaker 6: a dictator. We are at war. These are Democrat elected
Speaker 6: officials calling for war against the President of the United
Speaker 6: States and his supporters. I could go on and on,
Speaker 6: but again, when you have people in positions of power
Speaker 6: that are saying things like this every single day for years,
Speaker 6: you are inspiring violence by people who are already mentally ill.
Speaker 6: And that's what we've seen against this president for far
Speaker 6: too long.
Speaker 1: All right, Joining us now is Matt Towery. He is
Speaker 1: the host of the leader board and poster for Insider Advantage,
Speaker 1: one of the few polling groups that has historically for
Speaker 1: eleven years consistently pulled Donald Trump accurately, unlike the rest
Speaker 1: of the legacy media mob. John Tillman, CEO of American
Speaker 1: Culture Project, founder of the and CEO of The Hall
Speaker 1: of Giants, author, by the way, also of the new
Speaker 1: book The Political Vice, How the Radical Left Controls America
Speaker 1: and the Path to Regaining Our Liberty.
Speaker 2: Welcome all of you. Matt. Let's talk about your survey
Speaker 2: and what is it telling you.
Speaker 3: Well, as you said, it's pretty much expected that the
Speaker 3: public would see this and once again they would be
Speaker 3: reminded of the need for homeland security to be completely funded.
Speaker 3: I might note that the lines and airports have gone
Speaker 3: way down only because Donald Trump decided to use an
Speaker 3: executive order to fund the TSA. Otherwise we'd still have
Speaker 3: that manness going on as well. And also the president's
Speaker 3: approval rating. You know, it's been underwater since the war.
Speaker 3: It's pretty much to be expected, particularly from some of
Speaker 3: the posters who take advantage of it to make sure
Speaker 3: it's really underwater. But we found the president's approval rate
Speaker 3: coming up once again. And you remember this show on
Speaker 3: the inflection point of the election back two years ago,
Speaker 3: was after that shooting in Butler and then that second
Speaker 3: attempt at shooting in Palm Beach, and from that point on,
Speaker 3: the President's crewer ratings kept going up and the numbers
Speaker 3: started to come closer together. Now, I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: take advantage of a circumstance. I'm just reporting the circumstance.
Speaker 7: But I will tell.
Speaker 3: Everyone right now, this event, right now is another reset button.
Speaker 3: And if this war gets wrapped up in a clean
Speaker 3: way fairly soon, you're going to see the Republicans and
Speaker 3: Trump become much more competitive for the ball than they
Speaker 3: look like right now.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think people have jumped the
Speaker 1: gun on this. I think it'll get a lot more competitive.
Speaker 1: What drives elections safety and security. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: peace and prosperity, those are the things that drive elections. John,
Speaker 1: let's get your take.
Speaker 7: Well. I think what's really fascinating to me about this
Speaker 7: is David Axelrod's out there complaining about good Trump using
Speaker 7: this incident to sell the ballroom in the security of it,
Speaker 7: as if this is somehow irrelevant because they never talked
Speaker 7: about at the beginning. The ballroom is more important than
Speaker 7: ever for all the reasons just cited. But I think
Speaker 7: the most important thing is to recognize that we are
Speaker 7: in a propaganda war and the left is so desperate
Speaker 7: because they know they cannot win elections by traditional politics.
Speaker 7: They have to use this eliminationist rhetoric to try to
Speaker 7: gin up their base and turn them out because a
Speaker 7: huge swath of voters, both all black, brown, and light
Speaker 7: across America are rejecting their moral arguments. The way we
Speaker 7: win from this point on, the way Trump wins from
Speaker 7: this point on is by taking the moral high ground back.
Speaker 7: He won twenty twenty four because he had the moral
Speaker 7: high ground on immigration, no men in women's sports. He
Speaker 7: has the moral high ground on national security and Iran.
Speaker 7: If he takes that shot and continues to make those
Speaker 7: arguments that this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's absolutely the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: And the President is very clear and he keeps echoing
Speaker 1: the same message. I cannot have nuclear weapons. And for
Speaker 1: those people that didn't learn a damn thing from history
Speaker 1: in the last century and one hundred million dead people,
Speaker 1: Matt Towry, I can't help stupid, and I can't help ignorant,
Speaker 1: and I don't have any tolerance for people that don't
Speaker 1: understand it. You know, the number one state sponsor of terror.
Speaker 1: They put no value on human life. They don't even
Speaker 1: put the value of life on their own children, as
Speaker 1: they indoctrinate them into strapping bombs on themselves to kill
Speaker 1: innocent men, women, and children and promise them the reward
Speaker 1: of seventy two virgins in heaven. Sorry, you can't really
Speaker 1: have a rational discussion with people that think this way.
Speaker 3: Well, which is why we're having trouble wrapping this war up,
Speaker 3: because we've gone from having completely rational leadership to completely
Speaker 3: insane leadership. And this could be very hard to figure
Speaker 3: out who you negotiate with in this whole thing. And
Speaker 3: so the rhetoric, whether it's the rhetoric coming out of
Speaker 3: Iran or the rhetoric that he was just referring to
Speaker 3: here in this country, it has gotten out of control.
Speaker 3: And I want to say one thing. I want the
Speaker 3: Republicans to get a backbone. I want them to get
Speaker 3: a backbone. I want to know why in the world
Speaker 3: the leader of the Senate can't find ways to have
Speaker 3: leverage over these senators who won't vote on critical issues
Speaker 3: for Trump and won't bust that filibuster apart because if
Speaker 3: they did that, half the things we worry about right now, Sean,
Speaker 3: we could deal with and get fixed. It's not like
Speaker 3: we have to win another midterm to save this country.
Speaker 3: We could do it right this minute. And you're not
Speaker 3: going to tell me that the leaders of the Senate
Speaker 3: can't find a way to have political leverage over these
Speaker 3: four or five. Now, maybe Susan Collins is an exception
Speaker 3: because she's running for re election. Evan, that's McConnell. Evan,
Speaker 3: that's McConnell. If he wants a single bridge or a
Speaker 3: bust or anything of him. And by the way, his
Speaker 3: approval rating is at about fifteen percent in his home state.
Speaker 3: Isn't that nice. I'm sure he's really proud of that,
Speaker 3: if he even knows what it is, or if you
Speaker 3: didn't even awake.
Speaker 1: I don't even think cares at this point, exactly. I
Speaker 1: think he's half asleep. A lot of I don't know
Speaker 1: what's in the water in Kentucky. Something's going on in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Oh you tell me. I mean, between Ran Paul and
Speaker 3: Matthey and McConnell, it's just unbelievable. But I put a
Speaker 3: call out today the Republicans finally get a backbone like
Speaker 3: their president, and we need to put me right now.
Speaker 3: I would be running ads in John Thune's home state
Speaker 3: left and right, telling the people in that state what
Speaker 3: he's not doing, and I'd be doing it in every
Speaker 3: other state as well, because I'm really sick and tired
Speaker 3: of this lip service we get from Republicans and then
Speaker 3: nothing to back up the president.
Speaker 1: I totally agree, you know, John, I'd like to see
Speaker 1: more of a backbone too. Quick break more with Matt
Speaker 1: Towery John Tillman on the other side. Then we'll get
Speaker 1: to your calls as well. The other news of the
Speaker 1: day coming up straight ahead also eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn,
Speaker 1: As we continue, If you're ready to get out of
Speaker 1: the media spin room, you've come to the right place.
Speaker 5: Is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1: All right, we continue now. Matt Towery and John Tilman
Speaker 1: are with us. I understand the math. We don't have
Speaker 1: a big majority in the House. We don't have a
Speaker 1: big majority in the Senate. Senate has draconian rules. I
Speaker 1: know that there's been a push to get rid of
Speaker 1: the filibuster so the president can accomplish certain things. Democrats
Speaker 1: are already telegraphing James Carvell's saying the quiet part out loud,
Speaker 1: which is if the Democrats get control, well, they will
Speaker 1: nuke the Fellowbuster, they'll have DC Puerto Rico statehood, and
Speaker 1: they'll pack the courts. So we know where they're headed
Speaker 1: if they ever get back in power.
Speaker 7: John, that reflects one of my rules of politics, which
Speaker 7: is when Republicans, when Democrats gain political power, no matter
Speaker 7: how small the majority, they can't wait to implement their agenda,
Speaker 7: no matter how extreme it may be. When Republicans gain
Speaker 7: political power, they can't wait to equivocate on their agenda,
Speaker 7: no matter how large the majorities are. And that's exactly
Speaker 7: the situation we're in. And the reason that there is
Speaker 7: bipartisan resentment of Trump is because he doesn't tolerate that
Speaker 7: he wants to actually get things done, and he's frustrated
Speaker 7: with the leadership in both chambers as a result of
Speaker 7: everything that both you and Matt have been saying. And
Speaker 7: the only way to change that is for people out
Speaker 7: across America to come together and do exactly as Matt
Speaker 7: just suggested a moment ago, which is putting some money
Speaker 7: into the pot and putting pressure on these leaders in
Speaker 7: their home districts and make them fear their own voters
Speaker 7: more than they fear whoever it is that's persuading them
Speaker 7: to do nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I do think that the sooner that
Speaker 1: the President is able to resolve the situation with Iran,
Speaker 1: I think the better. I think we've now gotten to
Speaker 1: the point where the President is probably with the blockade
Speaker 1: is very successful. They're losing four or five hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars a day, Matt Towery. Their economy is in a
Speaker 1: full collapse. If you add to that, you know ten percent,
Speaker 1: you know, degrading of their infrastructure daily, and every three days,
Speaker 1: we'll do grade ten percent more. Until you realize this
Speaker 1: is going to be the future of your economy, you
Speaker 1: won't have one. I think that would be an added
Speaker 1: amount of pressure.
Speaker 2: Thoughts.
Speaker 3: Well, my thought is a blockade is always one of
Speaker 3: the best military strategies you could take if you want
Speaker 3: to ovoid direct conflict. Worked well for Kennedy and Cubas
Speaker 3: working well now for us. It's going to take time,
Speaker 3: and the public doesn't have any patients. And let me
Speaker 3: just add this, the national media has done a wonderful
Speaker 3: job of putting the clock on this at about thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: You would think that we that we literally have thirty
Speaker 3: seconds to solve every problem in this country. This war
Speaker 3: has been going on, conflict whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: for about something days. That is a minimal amount of time,
Speaker 3: and so much has been taken out. So in terms
Speaker 3: of leadership, in terms of things that they value, in
Speaker 3: terms of infrastructure, it's gone. They don't have a navy,
Speaker 3: they don't have an air force, they don't have radar.
Speaker 3: They're down to nothing. And I think within the next
Speaker 3: few weeks the economics of this will push this tighter.
Speaker 3: But at some point President Trump is basically just going
Speaker 3: to have to I believe, in my opinion, it's going
Speaker 3: to have to take out the world reserves they have.
Speaker 3: He's going to have to take out perhaps some some
Speaker 3: degree of energy not leaving the country destitutes, declare victory
Speaker 3: and come home. And the Europeans are going to have
Speaker 3: to start figuring out how they're going to get that
Speaker 3: straight kept open because they depend on it. We don't.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. Matt Twer appreciate you.
Speaker 1: John Tilman, Thank you eight hundred and nine four one Sean.
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Speaker 5: Now back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1: Let me go back to our top story from earlier today.
Speaker 1: We now know that the former FBI director James Colemy
Speaker 1: has been indicted yet again. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: talked to Dan Bongino on my podcast about this. We
Speaker 1: just dropped it this morning in relation to his eighty
Speaker 1: six forty seven seashell post on Instagram last year. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what this means, done at all? Whatsoever?
Speaker 1: I mean eighty six forty seven. I didn't know that meant.
Speaker 8: Anything when you posted this message eighty six forty seven,
Speaker 8: and I said, there are different interpretations of it, but
Speaker 8: one interpretation of it is to end someone or something.
Speaker 8: Was there anything in the back of your mind that
Speaker 8: said maybe I just shouldn't post this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, literally nothing, because it seemed entirely innocent and
Speaker 4: clever to me. I have never and actually still have,
Speaker 4: don't associate eighty six with violence. But because I heard
Speaker 4: that some folks were, whether they do that reasonably or not,
Speaker 4: I don't want any part of it, and so that's
Speaker 4: why I took it down from my Instagram account.
Speaker 1: Okay, he was he's full of Adam Schiff, but putting
Speaker 1: all that aside. But you know, in this atmosphere where
Speaker 1: it's a death assassination assassination culture, it's really beyond frustrating
Speaker 1: here to weigh in on this depending election, everything that's
Speaker 1: been going on. Is our friend Mark Compert is back
Speaker 1: with us. I know you were at the White House
Speaker 1: correspondence dinner because you know, after the room had long
Speaker 1: been cleared, it was a shot of you with three
Speaker 1: people and you're in a circle having a pleasant conversation,
Speaker 1: which is not a bad thing to do, but obviously
Speaker 1: not an easy night for anybody in that room. What
Speaker 1: went on from your vantage point.
Speaker 9: Sean, great to be back. I did hang around afterwards.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm an American and I'm I'm a dad
Speaker 9: and a husband, but also a reporter, and so I
Speaker 9: didn't really want to give up the opportunity to talk
Speaker 9: to folks until the service kicked us out. I was
Speaker 9: sitting in the in sort of the center of the
Speaker 9: of the cash. Betel was at my table, so I
Speaker 9: got to watch him, you know, deal with the aftermath
Speaker 9: and dealing with it in the room, and then as
Speaker 9: he left the room, and you know, I'm.
Speaker 1: And by the way, can you confirm I mean, he's
Speaker 1: been unfairly smeared in all of this. And I know
Speaker 1: from other people that were with him that within moments
Speaker 1: he was with the perpetrator and questioning him. And they
Speaker 1: had this guy in an ambulance on the way, and
Speaker 1: they were questioning him on the way and getting information intel,
Speaker 1: and they had more background on this guy within an
Speaker 1: hour's time than anybody has any idea about.
Speaker 9: So much so that of course people on the left
Speaker 9: of all these conspiracy theories about how they allowed it
Speaker 9: to happen or they engineered it. I can't confirm what
Speaker 9: he did after he left the table, but he was
Speaker 9: definitely engaged from the minute it happened. And this moment
Speaker 9: was for reporters kind of a paradox because you know,
Speaker 9: hundreds of reporters in a room with the biggest story
Speaker 9: in the world and very little cell coverage or Wi
Speaker 9: Fi coverage, and most everybody were under the table. I
Speaker 9: didn't go under the table. My reporter's instinct told me
Speaker 9: it would be safe to be above, and I wanted
Speaker 9: to look around and see what was happening. But it
Speaker 9: was intense. And my main takeaway from the thing is,
Speaker 9: besides the fact that the agents at that security point
Speaker 9: did a great job, is the security perimeter should not
Speaker 9: have been where it was. It should have been at
Speaker 9: the perimeter of the hotel and not within feet of
Speaker 9: the ballroom. And I really question that as just a
Speaker 9: judgment call about how to secure that venue.
Speaker 1: Well, I have two criticisms, and I think that it's
Speaker 1: time for a total, complete, top to bottom reevaluation of
Speaker 1: how they handle presidential security. If you look at Butler,
Speaker 1: if you look at Trump International, and you look at
Speaker 1: the incident on Saturday night, there's certainly a major failure
Speaker 1: Now I got to give props to all of the
Speaker 1: Secret service people in the room, and you witnessed it
Speaker 1: up close and personal. They acted, They were all willing
Speaker 1: to take a bullet for their respective people that they
Speaker 1: were covering. They sprung into action. They're amazing people. I
Speaker 1: have nothing but praise for them. However, you mentioned the perimeter.
Speaker 1: That's one part of the equation. If you go to
Speaker 1: an R and C convention, a DNC convention, sometimes the
Speaker 1: first layer of perimeter, and there are multiple perimeters, is
Speaker 1: half a mile or longer away, and to get in
Speaker 1: you need to show your credentials multiple times, you need
Speaker 1: to empty your pockets multiple times, you get wanded multiple times,
Speaker 1: you go through a mag multiple times. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: perimeter was very short in this particular case. Many people
Speaker 1: have discussed it. And the second thing is in each
Speaker 1: case they have not effectively swept the areas where a president,
Speaker 1: former president presidential candidate is going to be Trump International
Speaker 1: case in point, Butler case and point How does a
Speaker 1: guy get on the ladder one hundred and thirty yards
Speaker 1: away from are it with a long rifle? How is
Speaker 1: that even possible? At Trump International? Those those particular golf
Speaker 1: holes where the president was headed in this one sharp
Speaker 1: eyed Secret Service agent saw this guy through the bushes.
Speaker 2: It was lucky.
Speaker 1: It was a known place where paparazzi would congregate Mark
Speaker 1: and they never swept the area, never mind sweep and
Speaker 1: hold the area, clear the area and keep it cleared.
Speaker 1: That never happened. They didn't do it here either. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but that is a failure of magnitude we cannot have
Speaker 1: in this country if we want to keep our elected
Speaker 1: officials alive.
Speaker 9: I agree one hundred percent, and if we want the
Speaker 9: best people to be willing to go into elective office,
Speaker 9: because there are a lot of families who would say, uh,
Speaker 9: I'm not letting my family member. In the fact that
Speaker 9: the tickets didn't have QR codes, the fact that you
Speaker 9: could get onto the premises and within feet of the
Speaker 9: ballroom if you just had a Hilton Hotel you know,
Speaker 9: key envelope and they didn't check IDs. You know, my
Speaker 9: idea was not checked. I simply showed them my ticket
Speaker 9: which doesn't have a QR code on it.
Speaker 2: Well, everybody knows who Mark Halford is. You know who
Speaker 2: I am? Right on, Mark Alfort exactly.
Speaker 9: Toper Security, a Yankee stadium toper security at most urban
Speaker 9: high schools, and there's just no excuse. And I will say,
Speaker 9: based on where that guy went, if it had been
Speaker 9: seven guys with AK forty sevens and they had stormed
Speaker 9: that same checkpoint, because the mags he went through, the
Speaker 9: magnetometers he went through, are much smaller than the main entrance.
Speaker 9: There's a second entrance a flight above the ballroom that
Speaker 9: has a staircase dad to the ballroom. If it had
Speaker 9: been seven guys with high powered weapons, I shudder to
Speaker 9: think what would have happened.
Speaker 1: Well, and a time where we're not funding the Department
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security and Secret Services under the purview, it's
Speaker 1: unconscidable to me. And if that's a hill the Democrats
Speaker 1: want to die on, it's unconscidable. Let me go to
Speaker 1: this issue the former FBI director James call Me Now.
Speaker 1: I dropped a podcast this morning with Dan Bongino and
Speaker 1: we talked about call me. And he's now been indicted
Speaker 1: for a second time. And you know, obviously in September
Speaker 1: this eighty six which eighty six forty seven, Now, did
Speaker 1: you ever believe for one second that he had no
Speaker 1: idea what that was? I didn't believe him for a second.
Speaker 1: I think he's a liar. That's my own impression.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's hard to know.
Speaker 5: I mean it, it's really hard to know.
Speaker 2: What does your gut tell you. I don't like to
Speaker 2: just you're highly suspicious.
Speaker 9: I would say I'm at least somewhat suspicious. How about that,
Speaker 9: I would say more likely than that he knew. But
Speaker 9: you know, I think he's got bigger problems than whether
Speaker 9: he lied about that.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 1: I think the bigger problem is this investigation into a
Speaker 1: grand conspiracy, which is eleven years and with all the
Speaker 1: information that is coming out, and Bongina goes into great
Speaker 1: detail into this, and he actually believes that people, good
Speaker 1: people in the FBI purposely left those burn bags. They
Speaker 1: purposely left information behind and a trail behind, hoping that
Speaker 1: honest people coming in would find it.
Speaker 2: He actually told me that, yeah.
Speaker 7: Could be.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, the FBI is interesting that sometimes
Speaker 9: their casts anti Trump, sometimes pro Trump. But it's the
Speaker 9: culture there is a tough one, and I think you're
Speaker 9: going to see more revelations for the last decade of
Speaker 9: things that have happened at the FBI.
Speaker 1: You know, you're one of the few people that I
Speaker 1: feel is objective in the media. You're not like me.
Speaker 1: You're not a partisan conservative. However, you do fair analysis.
Speaker 1: And we spoke quite quite often before the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four election, and we were very much on the same
Speaker 1: page in terms of we actually spent the time. We
Speaker 1: looked at daily numbers that were coming in for early
Speaker 1: voting and things that most people in our industry ignored.
Speaker 1: You said something the other day that caught my attention.
Speaker 1: When you speak, I kind of pay attention to what
Speaker 1: you say, and that was that. Yeah, for those people
Speaker 1: that think that this election is over, meaning the midterms,
Speaker 1: you're out of your mind because I don't think what
Speaker 1: will define the outcome of this midterm has happened yet.
Speaker 2: I don't think we know.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it will be dependent on
Speaker 1: how the situation with the RAN turns out. I think
Speaker 1: it will turn out favorably. Yeah, that's going on a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than maybe people anticipated, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to be a forever war mark. I can promise
Speaker 1: you that number one, number two what drives elections peace
Speaker 1: and prosperity, and if we have enough runway and the
Speaker 1: economy is able to recover gas prices stabilize, and the
Speaker 1: President's the economic foundation that he laid in the first
Speaker 1: year of this presidency kicks in. I think that the
Speaker 1: economy is going to be doing a lot better, and
Speaker 1: I think that is a game changer.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think what it will define the outcome of
Speaker 1: those elections happened yet.
Speaker 9: Well, I agree with you, and Scott Betson agrees with you.
Speaker 9: I did a series of interviews with the last couple
Speaker 9: of weeks, and he says, the economic the war won't
Speaker 9: be forever, as you said, and the economic growth that
Speaker 9: will be spread around will happen in the third quarter
Speaker 9: before the midterms. We'll see, you know. I don't know
Speaker 9: if you saw a new talk to the New York
Speaker 9: Times and their piece about the midterms, and he said
Speaker 9: if the elections in May, will lose. But it's not
Speaker 9: in May, and there is time. But the war does
Speaker 9: have to end, and I know the president wants it
Speaker 9: to end, and it's determined to end it. But right
Speaker 9: now there are a lot of smart people who support
Speaker 9: the president who don't see how he gets out of
Speaker 9: this with the proper result. It's not saying it can't happen,
Speaker 9: but it's not currently on offer, so we'll see. But
Speaker 9: Republicans have things going for them that could counter the historical,
Speaker 9: you know, norm of doing poorly in the midterms when
Speaker 9: you control the White ass And we'll just have to
Speaker 9: see if that environment of peace and prosperity can be
Speaker 9: part of what they have gone for.
Speaker 1: Them, don't You're right historical trends are the party in
Speaker 1: power loses seats in a midterm. I mean, that is
Speaker 1: a common trait. However, you also are dealing with a different,
Speaker 1: very different Democratic party today, one that is quite radicalized,
Speaker 1: and I think their rhetoric and I think their lack
Speaker 1: of a real motivating agenda that resonates with the American
Speaker 1: people's problematic for them.
Speaker 2: Thoughts.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, you typically look at presidential let me.
Speaker 1: Put it in another way. They're crazy, Mark, They're insane.
Speaker 9: They have a lot of positions that are not popular.
Speaker 9: And if you look at a presidential the idea is
Speaker 9: to make it a referendum, a choice election. Midterms are
Speaker 9: typically a referendum on the incumbent. James Blair and the
Speaker 9: other people who work with the president on politics, their
Speaker 9: goal is to make it a referendum, not a referendum,
Speaker 9: but a choice. And they want to say that Democratic
Speaker 9: Party is crazy on taxes, they're crazy on trans issues,
Speaker 9: they're crazy on the border. And if they can pull
Speaker 9: that off, let.
Speaker 1: Me see if I do you see any policies that
Speaker 1: really resonate with the American people.
Speaker 9: Well, there's one policy therefore not Trump. Other than that, no,
Speaker 9: but sometimes in the midterms historically that's been enough to
Speaker 9: just say you want to check on the people in
Speaker 9: the White House. We'll see if it's enough this time
Speaker 9: when the president's side, while lot of money, they've got
Speaker 9: very good coordination. I think it'll be one of the
Speaker 9: best coordinated midterm campaigns ever. Buy a white Hoss and
Speaker 9: we'll have to see if they if they can make
Speaker 9: Democrats pay a price for not having much of a
Speaker 9: positive agenda and having some policy positions that are very
Speaker 9: far to the left. We'll see if they can do that.
Speaker 9: That's again that runs counter to what normally happens in
Speaker 9: a midterm, where the aut party's record and positions are
Speaker 9: usually not the issue. We'll see though, and that's their goal,
Speaker 9: and we'll see some primaries where you know, in Maine
Speaker 9: and Michigan, where Democrat might Democrats might nominate Senate candidates
Speaker 9: who are too far to the left. I think to
Speaker 9: probably win.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're a bit of an anomaly in this sense.
Speaker 1: I think you're an old school kind of you know,
Speaker 1: shoe leather objective guy that does a lot of the
Speaker 1: hard work behind the scenes. And I bet you probably
Speaker 1: even get, you know, a little pushback for coming on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm wrong. If you if you don't just
Speaker 2: tell me.
Speaker 9: All the people who hate you and would hate my
Speaker 9: coming on the show, don't listen to it. Don't even know.
Speaker 1: You're able to hide it. It's sort of like a
Speaker 1: covert operation when you come.
Speaker 9: On saying it's probably probably an overlap with no no
Speaker 9: no venn diagram overlap.
Speaker 1: But you know, by the way, I have a perfect record.
Speaker 1: I've never been to a single White House correspondence. Then
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that record.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good record to app You know, there's
Speaker 9: up and there's pros and cons to going. I see,
Speaker 9: I live in New York and I have for years,
Speaker 9: so it's an opportunity for me to do some host
Speaker 9: wholesale business and see a lot of DC people. So
Speaker 9: I don't mind going.
Speaker 2: And did you run into Liberal Joe? You're old buddy.
Speaker 9: He didn't go.
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't go either. If Joe nobody wants to
Speaker 1: see him anyway, who cares? It really doesn't matter. I'll
Speaker 1: say the things you want to say but won't work.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'll take care of you.
Speaker 9: You mean John Scarborough? Who you mean?
Speaker 2: See, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You mean the guy that once claimed to be a
Speaker 1: conservative from Pensacola in the Panhandle of Florida and now
Speaker 1: claims he's still the same guy. And he's working at
Speaker 1: MSDNZ pedaling anti Trump paid every second of every day.
Speaker 2: That guy unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to him anyway, We appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Mark Alpern, thank you.
Speaker 2: My friend Sean.
Speaker 9: Great to be on Thank you man.
Speaker 3: Bye bye