WEBVTT - She Migrates

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<v Speaker 1>This is Latino USA, the Radio Journal of News and

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<v Speaker 1>Kurturre Latino USA. Latino USA. I'm Maria Inojosa. We bring

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Maria Inojosa. Nose bayan.

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<v Speaker 1>Ola Latino USA. Listener. Here's a show from the archives.

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<v Speaker 1>This one won the twenty twenty two one World Media

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<v Speaker 1>Award for Refugee Reporting. So here's this award winning episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Women tend to stay in small rooms that are rented,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not so much in the shelters that they

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<v Speaker 3>have the option. Women tend to try to get false

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<v Speaker 3>documentation that will help them get on buses or ride

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<v Speaker 3>in cars, or go around checkpoints walking that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but in different routes then men would traditionally take. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the women who I've talked to over the years, they

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely are thinking about how to protect their bodies, but

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<v Speaker 3>also how to use their bodies to move through extremely

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<v Speaker 3>difficult situations.

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<v Speaker 1>From Fudro Media and PRX it's Latino USA. I'm Mariao Posa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today she migrates the stories from women making journeys north

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States. Before we start, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>mention of sexual violence in this episode. In a new

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<v Speaker 1>migration reality, the one that we're living through, women and

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<v Speaker 1>children are requesting asylum in Mexico it higher rates than men.

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<v Speaker 1>But even as more and more women are crossing borders

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<v Speaker 1>on long and dangerous journeys, many hoping ultimately to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States, you rarely hear about their stories

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's like, specifically to migrate as an undocumented

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<v Speaker 1>person when you're a woman or you identify as one.

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<v Speaker 1>For women, their bodies take on a central role when

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<v Speaker 1>they're in transit, regardless of their age. Some, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>are forced to disguise their gender for their own protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Others end up using it as a form of survival.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the end, so many are victimized just because

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<v Speaker 1>of their gender, and because so many of them are mothers,

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<v Speaker 1>many will end up carrying their children with them. Latino

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<v Speaker 1>USA editor Marta Martinez and reporter Alejandra Sanchez in SUNSA

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to chap Us in southern Mexico. Here's their reporting

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<v Speaker 1>about migrant women in different stages on their way north.

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<v Speaker 1>Part one Girlhood, the body as a disguise and Marta

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<v Speaker 1>Martinez is going to take it from here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's midday in Palinke Chiappas, and it's very hot. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a group of some eight boys sitting on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 2>cramped under the shade of a small tree, just yards

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<v Speaker 2>away from the migrant shelter where they spent the night

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<v Speaker 2>a few days earlier. Last May, they had left on Luras,

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<v Speaker 2>their home country, crossing first into Gatemala and then into

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<v Speaker 2>southern Mexico. They walked more than one hundred miles through

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<v Speaker 2>the humid, mountainous jungle to get to the city of Palinke,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly known for its Mayan ruins, but also especially two migrants,

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<v Speaker 2>as one of the few cities along Mexico's southern border

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<v Speaker 2>with shelter facilities. The boys are between fifteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one years old. They all have the same destination goal.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them even wears it stamped on his converse sneakers,

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<v Speaker 2>the red, white and blue pattern of the US flag.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the boys has a fresh haircut, the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>half of the skull shaved, the top half tied in

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<v Speaker 2>a high bun. It takes a while to realize that

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<v Speaker 2>he is actually a girl. Her name is Amaya. Amaya

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<v Speaker 2>recently turned fifteen, but she didn't celebrate with a big

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<v Speaker 2>party like girls in Latin America usually do when they

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<v Speaker 2>turn this age. Less than a month after her birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>she packed her things in a backpack and left her

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<v Speaker 2>parents home in a rush, joining a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 2>and two distant cousins. She left with five thousand lampitas

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<v Speaker 2>some two hundred dollars, but when we talked, she already

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<v Speaker 2>had no money left.

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<v Speaker 4>Co suky oh no, yeah, different, Amilia.

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<v Speaker 2>Her dream is making it to the United States, where

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<v Speaker 2>she believes she'll be able to work and earn more

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<v Speaker 2>money than she could ever do in Honduras. In her

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<v Speaker 2>hometown of Santa Barbara, there are no jobs. There's nothing. Amaya.

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<v Speaker 2>Sasas is the most unequal country in the Americas. Sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the population is poor, and for over a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>the country has held one of the highest murder rates

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, especially against women, and one in six

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<v Speaker 2>girls has experienced sexual violence. Its population is also very young.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost half of all Hondurans are younger than twenty, but

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<v Speaker 2>the increasing violence by organized crime, the unsustainable stortion and

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<v Speaker 2>recruitment by street gangs, high unemployment and inflation are leaving

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<v Speaker 2>young Endurance without opportunities in their home country. If all

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't enough to push thousands of Hodurance to migrate

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<v Speaker 2>every year in twenty twenty, the COVID nineteen pandemic and

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<v Speaker 2>two devastating back to back hurricanes sun Conduras even deeper,

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<v Speaker 2>driving even more people like Amaya to leave. In the

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<v Speaker 2>first seven months of twenty twenty, nine hundred and four

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<v Speaker 2>unaccompanied minors requested asylum in Mexico, almost double the number

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<v Speaker 2>for all of twenty twenty. The vast majority were Hondurant children.

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<v Speaker 2>Amaya had her hair cut for free at the migrant

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<v Speaker 2>shelter in Balinki the day before we met her her

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<v Speaker 2>big sister Verlo.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, as you know, I think muchon yeah, Maria Jongwood.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the short hair is an advantage, Amaya says,

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<v Speaker 2>because she doesn't stand out on the road. She wears

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<v Speaker 2>a gray hat, only the shaven half of her head exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Her black T shirt is actually more revealing. It has

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<v Speaker 2>a mini mouse bow printed on her chest and the

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<v Speaker 2>pink brass trap picks out from her t shirt neck.

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<v Speaker 2>On the migrant road, being a young woman is an

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<v Speaker 2>added risk, and Amaya knows it.

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<v Speaker 5>Calica cont.

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<v Speaker 6>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Amaya knows that men pray on girls like her and

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<v Speaker 2>that she must stay alert at all times. She feels

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<v Speaker 2>safe with this group of boys, though she says she

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<v Speaker 2>trusts they won't abandon her when they walk together. She

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<v Speaker 2>always walks in the middle on their long tracks across

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<v Speaker 2>southern Mexico. Migraines try to walk in big groups to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid getting mugged, kidnapped, or worse. Women and girls are

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<v Speaker 2>also overwhelmingly exposed to sexual abuse and targeted by traffickers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to find reliable data on sexual violence against

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<v Speaker 2>migrant women because they don't usually talk about it and

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<v Speaker 2>they're often too scared to file police reports. According to

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico's National Health Institute, almost half of women migrating through

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<v Speaker 2>the country have been sexually abused or have exchanged sex

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<v Speaker 2>for food, shelter, and anything else that would help them

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<v Speaker 2>along their journey. It's even harder to find data on

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<v Speaker 2>human and sex trafficking. One of the most obscure criminal

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<v Speaker 2>networks in Mexico and in many other countries. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the few reports available is the US State Department's Trafficking

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<v Speaker 2>in Persons Report, which shows that in twenty twenty, almost

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent of six hundred and seventy three victims identified

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico where women and girls. The figure barely scratches

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<v Speaker 2>the surface. Advocates say when Amaya left Onduda's she had

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<v Speaker 2>already dropped out of school. She says that it took

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<v Speaker 2>her half an hour to get there, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like her classes very much either. She enjoyed babysitting, though,

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<v Speaker 2>especially taking care of her niece, who still calls.

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<v Speaker 4>Her mom is Mama, I won't dabia.

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<v Speaker 2>Amaya says she'd like to have children one day, but

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<v Speaker 2>not until she's twenty five because it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>hard work.

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<v Speaker 4>Leventi sinko yeah, mayor de la momentore.

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<v Speaker 2>In Honduras, one in four girls has been pregnant at

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<v Speaker 2>least once before turning nineteen. The morning after we meet

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<v Speaker 2>Amaya and her group at fourth in the morning, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the years, but enough it's still pitch dark upside,

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<v Speaker 2>but they want to get going before the sun is

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<v Speaker 2>too harsh. Their goal for the day is getting to

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<v Speaker 2>Salto Iagua, which is thirty five miles away, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the next migrant shelter is. They sip some black

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<v Speaker 2>coffee in plastic cups and smoke cigarettes. The group has

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<v Speaker 2>shrunk a bit. Some didn't want to wait and decided

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the evening before. There are now six boys

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<v Speaker 2>Plasa Maya. Their ultimate goal is to jump on La

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<v Speaker 2>Vestia or the Beast, the train heading to northern Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the train route in Chiapa's has been discontinued

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<v Speaker 2>to give way to El Trenmaya, a big federal infrastructure project,

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<v Speaker 2>so now migrants have to walk an addition of two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty miles to the first train station in

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<v Speaker 2>quat Sa Quadkos. The group walks following the train tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>increasingly covered by weeds and stones due to the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of use. Several of them, including a maya whole thick

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<v Speaker 2>woodsticks the size of baseball bats to protect themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>case they're attacked. And that sound in the background, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the hauling monkeys hiding in the luscious trees. You

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<v Speaker 2>rarely see women walking on the train tracks by themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone teenage girls like Amaya, and when they do,

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<v Speaker 2>they hide their gender. We meet the group again in

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<v Speaker 2>Salta the Iyawa the day after their fourteen hour track.

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<v Speaker 2>There are now only four boys plus a Maya. Two

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<v Speaker 2>of them decided to continue on their own no breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>but Amaya isn't feeling well. She needs to rest a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>She looks exhausted and her feet are very swollen.

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<v Speaker 5>Am I.

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Amaya says that for a moment she thought she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make it. Her friend had to drag her.

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<v Speaker 2>She got some burned, her head hurt. She tells us

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<v Speaker 2>that she needs a favor, but she's ashamed to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us what it is. Has just gotten her period and

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<v Speaker 2>asks if we could help her get contraceptive pills to

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<v Speaker 2>make her period stop. A similar hike awaited them the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and she couldn't walk like this anymore. We

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<v Speaker 2>tell her that pills won't really stop her period right away,

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<v Speaker 2>but what about tempons? Amaya has never used a tempon

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<v Speaker 2>the shelters. They only have sanitary towels, and Amaya says

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<v Speaker 2>they're very uncomfortable in this hot weather.

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<v Speaker 3>As people grow, especially in adolescents, women are so so vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Gretchen Kuhner, director of the Institute for Women

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<v Speaker 2>in Migration based in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen all different kinds of violence, you know, starting

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<v Speaker 3>with extortion, which is just the highest, and then women

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<v Speaker 3>also have the extra vulnerability of sexual violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Many times though women don't realize when they're victims of

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<v Speaker 2>sexual violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Some women are so accustomed to being touched. Other women

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<v Speaker 3>will say, well, the truck driver gave me a ride

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<v Speaker 3>from Tabacula to Saltillo, and so of course in exchange

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<v Speaker 3>for that, I had to sleep with him. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>not sexual event, that's sexual violence.

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<v Speaker 2>A recent change in Mexico's immigration law has directly impacted

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<v Speaker 2>girls and boys traveling alone. Since January of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>minors cannot be held in immigration detention centers. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>must remain under the supervision of Mexico's Child Protective Services

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<v Speaker 2>known as DIEF. Child rights activists have been pushing for

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<v Speaker 2>this for over a decade, but its implementation has not

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in the kind of change advocates expected.

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<v Speaker 3>What we have is a situation in which there's especially

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<v Speaker 3>in Chiapas, you know, whether there's just the largest flows,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of confusion about who should be doing what,

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<v Speaker 3>insufficient resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Because child protective services are overwhelmed, they sent many of

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<v Speaker 2>these children to private shelters for immigrants, which are also overcarded,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're living conditions might not be up to standards,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for an accompanied children. During our reporting in Chapas,

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<v Speaker 2>two shelter coordinators said that they had stopped accepting an

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<v Speaker 2>accompanied minors from THEEF because they were quote too hard

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. Many have suffered violence or sexual abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>They can be aggressive or unruly due to that violence

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<v Speaker 2>and need special attention, the coordinators say, and the shelters

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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough resources nor trained staff to help them.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them they receive a cursory interview and then

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<v Speaker 3>they're turned back over to the National Immigration Institute and

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<v Speaker 3>they returned to their countries of origin. The word I

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<v Speaker 3>think that everyone understands would be deportation. But I also

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<v Speaker 3>have the sense that, especially with unaccompanied children, that some

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<v Speaker 3>of them are being released because if they can't be

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<v Speaker 3>an immigration detention, there's no capacity to go through the

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<v Speaker 3>correct system, then they're being released.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, Gretchen things, keeping miners out of the tension centers

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<v Speaker 2>was the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have the right framework now, but we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the right resources. And there's also, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>larger issue, which is that we have to think regionally.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of parents and family members of children in

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<v Speaker 3>our region are in the United States, and if it's

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<v Speaker 3>in their best interest to be reunited with those family members,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to accept that as a region, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>regional responsibility for the reason that we're in the situation

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<v Speaker 3>in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on let you know usay the rise of

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<v Speaker 1>migrant child trafficking, and then a group of women and

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<v Speaker 1>the choices they make when their body is the only

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<v Speaker 1>current they have to pay for the journey north. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us notes, Hey, we're back, and before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>we met Amaya. She's a teenage girl from Ondudas, migrating

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<v Speaker 1>on her own and hiding her gender for protection. We

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<v Speaker 1>continue the journey across southern Mexico now to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>the experiences of migrant women. Now in the city of Tapachula.

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<v Speaker 1>Editor Marta Martinez picks up the story from.

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<v Speaker 2>Here at Jesus Elwen Pastor shelter in Tapachula, the city

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<v Speaker 2>with the highest number of migrants and asylum seekers. We

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<v Speaker 2>meet another fifteen year old girl from Honduras who is

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<v Speaker 2>also on her own. We're gonna call her Christina Aga Sanchez.

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<v Speaker 2>The coordinator of the shelter, says that a coyote had

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<v Speaker 2>charged the girl two thousand dollars to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, where she has a brother she's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>reunite with, but the coyote tried to sell her and

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<v Speaker 2>then abandoned her in Whatatemala. The coordinator says, Christina is

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<v Speaker 2>shy and afraid of talking.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, no, I'm familia manna intensiforess.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents abandoned her when she was a child. She says.

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<v Speaker 2>She grew up with her grandmother. More recently, a criminal

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<v Speaker 2>gang started harassing her.

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<v Speaker 7>For quego lasi interns and nan fear in Ternsi and

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<v Speaker 7>matan in ternsi the America.

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<v Speaker 2>The gang members tried to rape her, Christina says, and

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<v Speaker 2>they threatened to kill her if she didn't leave the country.

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<v Speaker 7>The next day, Alista and Maleta tredia caminando Ilo and

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<v Speaker 7>in Esol, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Packed her things and left. She walked and hitch hiked

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<v Speaker 2>for three days. During those three days, Christina says she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sleep.

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<v Speaker 7>With one pass ombresi internsi.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina says she didn't sleep because she had heard that

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<v Speaker 2>men could attack her. Auga says the number of teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>arriving at the shelter has grown in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and so has seinage trafficking.

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<v Speaker 8>Liscente yesta or momentous.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been doing this job for over thirty years, and

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<v Speaker 2>she says it's never been this dangerous for migrant teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>and children before. The shelter rarely commits to taking in

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<v Speaker 2>an accompanied teenagers because they can guarantee their safety.

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<v Speaker 8>Persi lot tratas persis the best part. Mafioso traffickers are

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<v Speaker 8>waiting for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They go after them. Alga says, when traffickers see migrants,

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<v Speaker 2>they see money Science.

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<v Speaker 1>Part two Adulthood the body as currency.

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<v Speaker 2>The main square in Tapachula is always busy. Many of

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<v Speaker 2>the people sitting on the benches selling food or cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalk are migrants from Central America and the Caribbean,

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<v Speaker 2>but also from farther away, including African countries and India.

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<v Speaker 2>Tapatula is also a big bottleneck for people who cross

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<v Speaker 2>into Mexico through its southern border, often on their way

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<v Speaker 2>to the US, which is still more than eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>miles away. The majority of migrants asking for asylum in

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico do it in this city, but the number of

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<v Speaker 2>requests has grown so much in recent years that the

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<v Speaker 2>process can take up to a year. That's why so

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<v Speaker 2>many of them get stuck here too. In the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of twenty twenty one, Mexico received nearly fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand asylum requests, and more than thirty five thousand of

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<v Speaker 2>those in Tapatula. The numbers are already twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>higher than those of all of twenty twenty. The country

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<v Speaker 2>with most applicants is on Duras with forty four percent,

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<v Speaker 2>followed by Haiti, Cuba, El Salador and Venezuela. But Chiappas,

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<v Speaker 2>where Tapatula is located, is also the poorest state in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>so job opportunities are really scars for migrants who are

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for their humanitarian business or simply making a stop

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<v Speaker 2>to earn some money after having spent everything they brought,

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<v Speaker 2>or being extorted by the local police in Guatemala before

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<v Speaker 2>they crossed into Mexico. For some migrant women, their body

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<v Speaker 2>becomes currency. Some choose to look for clients on their own,

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<v Speaker 2>often not the main square. Many others are forced into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's hard to know exactly how many. Here's Gretchen

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<v Speaker 2>Kuhner from the Institute for Women in Migration.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, we've seen all different kinds of trafficking along the

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<v Speaker 3>migration route in Mexico. So little is known about the

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<v Speaker 3>different types of criminal structures that exist that force women

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<v Speaker 3>into trafficking situations. Who might begin in a situation in

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<v Speaker 3>which they're leaving their country, maybe they're traveling with a smuggler,

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<v Speaker 3>and then from the smuggling situation they're trafficked. Then it

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<v Speaker 3>could be in Tapachula, you know, or other towns along

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<v Speaker 3>the southern border of Mexico. We've also had some a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of cases of women who are kept in safe

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<v Speaker 3>houses so they're not allowed to leave, so they're in

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<v Speaker 3>a trafficking situation, but their job is either sex trafficking,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for the smugglers themselves, or it could even

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<v Speaker 3>be you're not allowed to leave and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>help us cook or clean or other kinds of domestic

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<v Speaker 3>work that is needed in any kind of a situation,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's a criminal encampment.

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<v Speaker 2>But for migrant women, there are also situations where the

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<v Speaker 2>way they use their bodies as a currency is blurrier.

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<v Speaker 2>Taskuanitas is one of those places. It's early on a

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday afternoon and the waiters are setting up for the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>At this bar in the north of Tapatula. Some four

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<v Speaker 2>girls in tight pans and lay stops or mini dresses

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<v Speaker 2>start coming in. They wear heavy makeup despite the unbearable

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<v Speaker 2>humid heat. They sit around one of the wooden tables

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<v Speaker 2>and for the most part they look at their phones.

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<v Speaker 2>A woman in a breezy white dress and curly hair

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<v Speaker 2>is behind the counter. Her fingers are full of rings

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<v Speaker 2>and her nails are long and monicured. Her name is

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<v Speaker 2>Floor and she's the owner of the bar. She explains

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<v Speaker 2>how Laskubanitas works.

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<v Speaker 9>Jes gulfstan jests any sales is the refresco Navaho yes

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<v Speaker 9>Eccellina un.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Donia Floor, she pays the women who work

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<v Speaker 2>for her a basic daily salary of two hundred pesos

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<v Speaker 2>some ten u s dollars for eight hours of work,

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<v Speaker 2>but they make most of their money off taps clients. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>men can buy the women drinks, but only if the

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<v Speaker 2>women want to. Donia Floor says. The women's drinks are

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<v Speaker 2>much more expensive than the regular ones, which costs one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty five pesos so a little overnight dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>almost as much as what Donia Floor pays them for

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<v Speaker 2>a day of work. The women get to keep one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five pisos or a little over eight

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<v Speaker 2>dollars from every drink Donia Floor takes the rest. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of her profits really come from the drink's clients order

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves. Both Donya Floor and the women told us

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<v Speaker 2>that only if they choose to in exchange for the

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<v Speaker 2>drinks men buy for them, they spend some time chatting

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<v Speaker 2>with them, having a love Sometimes the women also dance

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<v Speaker 2>with them or they let them touch their bodies. At

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<v Speaker 2>any time. The women can leave the table if they

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<v Speaker 2>feel uncomfortable. Both Donia Floor and the women say the

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<v Speaker 2>waters at Las Cuanitas are all men, and they also

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on the women who work there. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not women have sex with clients, that's up to them,

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<v Speaker 2>Donia Floor says, and they cannot leave the bar during

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<v Speaker 2>their working hours. There are some ten women currently working

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<v Speaker 2>at Lascuanitas, but despite the name, only two of them

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<v Speaker 2>are actually from Cuba. Most of them are from Central America.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes DNN, the Sentra America Albunasavena, Salida Delante, Lucha Boro

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<v Speaker 9>Borguea with the ISSIL.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of the women have children who depend on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Donia Flor says that's why they have to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>job they can or decide to do.

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<v Speaker 9>The Sionastos.

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<v Speaker 2>Two girls started working at Laskuanita's just five days earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is Kati. She's from Hondudas and she

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<v Speaker 2>wears a nudleg stop that matches her high heeled shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Her nails match her clothes too, an intricate design in gold,

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<v Speaker 2>orange and brown tones. She has been living in Tapachula

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<v Speaker 2>for over a year and a half. Her dream, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is making it to the US. Katy says this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time she's doing this kind of work and

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Katy says she's doing it because she has to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of her six year old daughter, pay rent, and

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<v Speaker 2>send money back to Ondua's. Her older child, an eight

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<v Speaker 2>year old boy, is still there living with her mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Life in tegui Alpa, the capital of Honduras, became unsustainable

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<v Speaker 2>for Kati when a gang began forcing her to pay

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<v Speaker 2>an extortion fee. They asked for one hundred dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>an amount she couldn't make by selling tortillas. Her life

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<v Speaker 2>was in danger, so she left the country with a friend.

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<v Speaker 6>I do this if you're not support abercn coming as

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<v Speaker 6>a pal.

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<v Speaker 2>But shortly after Kati went back Toudas to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter. The girl missed her too much and would

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<v Speaker 2>cry all the time. It was the first time they

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<v Speaker 2>had ever been apart. Before Laskuannita's Katy was working at

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<v Speaker 2>a burger joint in Tapatula for eight hundred pisols per

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<v Speaker 2>week about forty dollars. Sometimes it wasn't enough to feed

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter, let alone send money back to Onduda's were.

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<v Speaker 6>Not Yeah, mom, eating rayo, keeps h heavy, fishing and waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Fishing at the bar. Katy can make more money in

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<v Speaker 2>one night than what she did at the restaurant in

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<v Speaker 2>one week, and she says they treat her better too

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<v Speaker 2>if she has an emergency.

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<v Speaker 6>They're flexible, super different. The males quando amenza.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not been easy for Kati to get

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<v Speaker 2>used to this kind of work and to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that men respect her depend ah. She hasn't told anyone

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<v Speaker 2>about her new job, not even her daughter, who thinks

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<v Speaker 2>Katy works selling tacos.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, mommy, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she works. The woman who first offered Kati shelter

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<v Speaker 2>in Tapachula takes care of her daughter. She's an angel,

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<v Speaker 2>Katy says, man.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay on a personality and forma.

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<v Speaker 2>Sitting on the table with the other women. There's also Carrida,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the only two Cubans around. She's twenty four, restless,

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<v Speaker 2>and has appierced in the crosses her tongue horizontally. She

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't told anyone about her new job either. Karidath has

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<v Speaker 2>only been in Tapatula for a couple of weeks. She

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<v Speaker 2>applied for some jobs, but they asked for an identification document.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't have a friend who had worked at Las

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<v Speaker 2>Cuanitas told her that they were looking for women in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>Karidad worked at a day care center, making sixteen dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month. She left for Brazil with her cousin, looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a better job, but her goal was always the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. If a comp my family, your women. In

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<v Speaker 2>late March, Karida and her cousin left Brazil and ventured

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<v Speaker 2>into a dangerous journey that took them through nine or

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<v Speaker 2>ten countries. Karidath has lost count The worst part was

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<v Speaker 2>crossing the Darien Jungle, a wild territory between Colombia and

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<v Speaker 2>Panama that is considered among the most dangerous migrant roots

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, not only because of the rough mountains

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<v Speaker 2>and wildlife, but also because of the presence of criminal gangs.

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<v Speaker 2>Karida accidentally lost track of her cousin the day they

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<v Speaker 2>entered the jungle, and then the group she was walking

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<v Speaker 2>with got stopped by a band of armed meno I

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<v Speaker 2>just the men took their backpacks, and then they selected

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<v Speaker 2>three women from the group. One of them was Karidad.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one was a thirteen year old from Haiti, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>by Anse but Yo Karia said she was lucky that

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<v Speaker 2>she was raped by only one man. The thirteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old Haitian girl was attacked by several.

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<v Speaker 7>In Donceevre in came.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, Karida reunited with her cousin in the jungle and

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<v Speaker 2>they walked for four and a half days, borrowing food

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<v Speaker 2>from others. The Hitian girl never made it out of

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<v Speaker 2>the jungle. She drowned when the group crossed the river

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that Karidad mentioned she had been raped

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<v Speaker 2>in our conversation, she did it casually, as if it

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<v Speaker 2>were just one more thing that she went through in

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>this extreme journey she was still on. It felt like

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>her mind was in survival mode, like she hadn't really

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<v Speaker 2>processed everything she had been through. She seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>just as sad about having lost her phone while crossing

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the jungle as having been raped. She knows her life

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>is what matters most, and she thinks God that she's

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>still here. Sometimes Kadida shares some of her journey with

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the clients at the bar. It entertains them. She says,

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>dealing with men when they are drunk gets more difficult.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they get annoying, or they might want to spend

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the night with her. No, when that happens, Kadida tries

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to move the conversation into another direction. She believes there

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>are women who have it harder than her while migrating,

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>mothers who make the journey with their little children. She

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any yet and decide, look, you know, her

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<v Speaker 2>focus is getting to the United States to work so

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<v Speaker 2>that she can make sure her grandparents and her mother

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>are taken care of. Only then she'll feel ready to

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>start her own family. She says, motherhood can wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, we head to Denosike in

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the neighboring state of Dabasco and meet a group of

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>single moms taking the risky choice of migrating with their children.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dangerous decision, but is there another option? Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us, hey, we're back. Before the break, we met

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<v Speaker 1>Kati and Kharidad in Tapachula, two migrant women who are

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>using their bodies to finance their journey north. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move on now to the busy migrant routes along the

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<v Speaker 1>Usumacinta River, which forms the natural border between Mexico and Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 1>Part three, Motherhood The body as a forever bond. Here's

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Marta Martinez again.

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<v Speaker 2>When media attention grew exponentially around migrant caravans crossing into

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico and towards the United States in late twenty seventeen,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Tapatula became the face of Mexico's southern border, a face

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that became increasingly aggressive. Starting in twenty nineteen, military presence

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>increased in the Tapatula area. Former President Donald Trump brokeered

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>a deal with Mexican President and Jasminuel Lopez Obrador to

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>deter migrants from coming to the United States by stopping

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>them early, even before they made it into Mexico. But

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the move didn't stop migrants, it just led them into

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>tougher roots across the mountain and the jungle. Two of

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the most used routes right now are on opposite sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the Yusumacinta River, which serves as a natural border

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 2>between Mexico and Guatemala. Centuries ago, the Yusumacinta River was

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>an important trade route for the Mayan civilization back when

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>rivers were the main way to travel across the jungle. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Usumacinta River is still busy, but for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>At Frontira Corossal, on the Mexican side of the border,

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<v Speaker 2>tourists used to take colorful boats to visit the Mayan

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>ruins of Yaksilan, but the pandemic brought tourism to a

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 2>sudden and unexpected halt. Now those same boats are busy

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>transporting migrants from the Watemalan side of the river to

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the Mexican one, and business is booming. We spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Lantido's the men who drive those small boats.

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<v Speaker 5>Mill As Via.

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<v Speaker 2>The Boatman says there are more than one thousand migrants

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<v Speaker 2>crossing each day, day and night, and many of them

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<v Speaker 2>cross with the help of coyotos or coyotes. At around

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>eight pm in the evening, when it looked like the

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>river would turn quiet as the sky went dark, a

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>boat arrived on the Mexican docks. A group of some

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty migrants descended. There were several women in the group

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 2>and at least three little children. A red car awaited them.

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<v Speaker 2>They seemed to be traveling with a coyote. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no police or military presence around me. People pay as

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>much as fourteen thousand dollars per person, sometimes even more

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>since the pandemic to travel with a coyote to the

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>United States without any guarantee that they'll safely make it

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>into the country. Women tend to travel more with coyotes,

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 2>experts say, or at least in groups. Padalupeare Inas heads

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the Migrante program at Medicos El Mundo and Ango and Tapachula.

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<v Speaker 2>She says that before twenty eighteen, Micritian in Central America

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 2>was understood as a purely male phenomenon, but then women

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>started taking the road more. For example, there were a

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of women in the caravans that became more popular

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. Wadalupees is a connection there, Oh.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, No migran sols. Yes, migr compass simprevido collectives and

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 10>simpre or back on la familia or bas or.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Pero nozle. There have always been women collectives. What a

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Lupez says, women tend to get together when they migrate.

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 2>They go with family or with friends, but they don't

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 2>go alone. Wadalupees is migration as an empowering action, sort

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 2>of an act of rebellion.

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 10>Migradisna format resistant, na forma de kiro no kiro is,

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 10>tavida is yokorokel mayorato revelda is migras as daglas conditions.

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<v Speaker 10>Estado to pais is the colorno.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side of the Usumacinta River. There's Lasitendaidos,

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 2>the biggest migrant shelter in southern Mexico. They serve over

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>thirteen thousand people every year. It's in a relatively small

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>city called Tenoske in the nearby state of Tabasco, not Chiapas.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Where we met Amaya and the women of Las Cuanitas.

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 2>When we visited Las Tendaidos, the shelter was closed due

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to a coronavirus outbreak. Over one hundred migrants roamed around

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>in the sprawling grass bigger than a soccer field. They

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 2>had turned the concrete grandstand into an improvised encampment where

0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>they slept under blue plastic tars and blankets or in amas.

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 2>The night before, a storm soaked them and people were

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 2>hanging their clothes to dry. There were lots of children

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 2>running around playing soccer, and wherever there are migrant children,

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of mothers, often single mothers. We

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>sat down on the grass with three single mothers as

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the son started to fade away. They had all requested

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>asylum in Mexico and were waiting for the decision. One

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<v Speaker 2>of them is Mcgdalena. She's twenty one years old and

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<v Speaker 2>she's from a rural area in eastern Guatemala called Los

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>a matte Isabel. As we speak, she holds her daughter

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Juliana in her arms.

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<v Speaker 11>It's the Jomarina Bouquet Mexico Mario Son and Michumpeao.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 7>Maghosve.

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<v Speaker 2>When Magdalena starts talking about her ex husband and how

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>he used to hit her. Her daughter can stand seeing

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 2>her mother cry, and she begins to cry too. Magdalena's

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 2>father died when she was eight years old and attend

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 2>She started working to help her mother and five siblings.

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Her relationship with her ex husband was violent from early on.

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<v Speaker 2>Magdalena wanted to leave him, but then she got pregnant

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 2>at just seventeen years old. He wouldn't let her go anywhere,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>not even to church. He was weary of every man

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and even suspected that she was having an affair with

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 2>the priests. He isolated her from the world comunitus.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 8>He will be.

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 11>Meghamura Natania comunica zukomuma.

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<v Speaker 2>If she left the house to buy food, she couldn't

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>take more than five minutes. If she got home later

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>than that, her husband hid her until her skin was

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 2>all bruised. She couldn't communicate with her mother because he

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't let her have a phone. One time, her mother

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>saw her with her face bruised and told her to

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>report him to the police, but Magdalena was too scared.

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>He had threatened multiple times to cut her head off

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>with a machete if she spoke out.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 11>Majok formosa Policii Juquno Okaya Asaua Santo juke La Carezl.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, Magdalena was able to escape and she spent some

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 2>time living with her mother, but he found her and

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>asked her to come back, swearing he would stop hitting her.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't the first time she had heard that.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>She decided to leave the country with her daughter, looking

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>for safety and a better future for Juliana.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 11>By Yomebmemuskara Massa da Misakoa Atlante.

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Magdalena fled Guatemala with two of her sisters, her daughter,

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and her nephew with only one extra set of clothes

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>on the road. They were lucky, she says, they found

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>people who gave them food. Now they work for a

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>man who has a farm. They take care of his garden,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 2>clean his house, work the fields. With the money they

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>get from their daily work, they're able to buy some

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 2>nachos from the food carts by the shelter. Sometimes they

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have enough, but it's still better than having stayed

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:42.959
<v Speaker 2>in Guatemala with her ex husband.

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 11>Felice Miscino Masseura.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 7>Yosta.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in ten Magdalena is happy, She feels safer. She

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 2>says they're going to stay in Tenosiki for a while.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>She wants to go to the US in the future

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>if possible, but she wants to do it safely.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 11>The primer Ca caestrellasmiliar.

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Dinga Magdalena says she's heard that it's more dangerous farther north,

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that they take the children away, they rape and kill

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the mothers and the girls. Magdalena says it's best to

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 2>be patient, get their documents and then head to the US.

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Kidnappings and disappearances of migrants in Mexico have been on

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the rise in recent years, and they've also become more violent.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 2>According to the country's National Human Rights Commission, fifty four

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 2>migrants are kidnapped every day on average in Mexico. In

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the case of women, they're often targeted by kidnappers and

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>sexually abused and sometimes trafficked.

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<v Speaker 3>Since about twenty sixteen, there's been much more family units,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of the family units are headed by

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>women who are heads of households and they're on their

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.280
<v Speaker 3>own with their small you know, their young children.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Gretchen Kunner again from the Institute for Women

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>in Migration.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, can you imagine traveling on your own without

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 3>funds in a place that you don't know. That's scary

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 3>with your little children. I mean, I think it leaves

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 3>a psychological wound on every single person as well as

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:44.720
<v Speaker 3>the children.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:49.320
<v Speaker 2>These single mothers often carry several children from different fathers.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 2>They're the only ones forever in charge of the care

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>and well being of their kids.

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Even if you leave your children behind with the family member,

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:02.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's still something that's stigmatiz So women are

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>expected to be the caretakers of their children, and that's

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 3>why they're moving together because that's the expectation, and it's

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 3>their societal responsibility to do so, and there's no extra

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 3>support from their government to have any other options except

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 3>to do that.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 2>For these mothers, taking their children with them when they

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>migrate entails risks, but so does leaving their kids in

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>their home country, And either way, they feel deeply guilty

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 2>about the decisions they make.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Women are really stigmatized. It's just amazing. You know, how

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 3>could you take your children without any money? Well, how

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 3>could you not take your children if you're in a

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 3>dangerous situation and you need to leave. So I think

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 3>that as a society, we're stigmatizing women and children and

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 3>we're not asking the right questions or we're not providing

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 3>the right resources.

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<v Speaker 2>At the migrant shelter, we also meet Irma. It's not

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the first time Irma sits on the lawn of lasitent Taidos.

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 2>It's her second time living on Duras, but this time

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>she's on her own with her two children. Denosike doesn't

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>bring back good memories. The first time she emigrated, she

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>did it with Arnold, her husband and father of her

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 2>youngest child. They applied for asylum, and while they waited

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 2>for a decision, Arnold started working at a local supermarket.

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 2>One day after his shift, Arnold Irma and her thirteen

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 2>year old ran into some young drunk men on the street.

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 2>They got into a fight and one of the men

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>had a knife.

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Ike eltchaop was.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 2>They killed? Arnold Irma tried to start from scratch once

0:49:55.840 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>again in her home country of Africa.

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 12>Savas.

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.439
<v Speaker 2>She looked for jobs at several factories, but the pay

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>was never enough. She felt her only option was to

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 2>leave again. She had to do it for her children

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and for herself too. She didn't want to get stuck

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>thinking about her late Husbando.

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 12>Pensando Ke The inl finnwras fortes gay gang in talb depression.

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Irma and her children took the same route they had

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>taken the previous time. Everything reminded them of Arnold, but

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>this time it was harder. Irma felt defenseless.

0:50:55.040 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 12>Made fisil macomos como de san Parano, passe rode la

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 12>Montana amerce tongsiving solidos komini solos irmaces.

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<v Speaker 2>They were lucky that migration authorities didn't detain them. They

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<v Speaker 2>circled mountains in the middle of the night to avoid checkpoints.

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<v Speaker 2>They slept on the floor until they made it to

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<v Speaker 2>Tenessiki again. Her oldest son is not doing well psychologically.

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<v Speaker 2>He blames himself for not having done more to say Arnold.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the shelter there are psychologists Irma sees, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's trying to get him help.

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<v Speaker 13>Mira que.

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<v Speaker 12>Alisado guantank elby this imolavastante.

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<v Speaker 2>None of the single mothers we spoke to in Tenosek

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<v Speaker 2>knew how long it would take to hear back from COMAR,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mexican Refugee Commission, about their cases, But something else

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<v Speaker 2>was clearer to them. As soon as they got their papers,

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<v Speaker 2>they would continue their journey North. Most of the women

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke to during our reporting believe that migrating when

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<v Speaker 2>you're a woman is harder than when you're a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Some said it's carrier because they feel unprotected. Others agreed

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<v Speaker 2>that they face more risks like sexual violence or trafficking.

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<v Speaker 2>Many said their children were their biggest worry, but also

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<v Speaker 2>their biggest incentive to live in search for a better

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<v Speaker 2>future for their families. Women are migrating in new ways

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<v Speaker 2>in groups, jumping on buses instead of trains, avoiding shelters

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<v Speaker 2>and massive places that we still know or hear little about.

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<v Speaker 2>In August, Cariat, the Cuban migrant who was working at

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<v Speaker 2>Las cuan Nita's bar, after traveling through nine or ten countries,

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<v Speaker 2>finally made it to the United States, where she plans

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<v Speaker 2>to start all over again. Many more women are on

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<v Speaker 2>their way. That's it for today.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was produced by Marta Martinez and Alexandra Sanchez

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<v Speaker 1>mixed by Julia Caruso. This reporting was supported by the

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