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Speaker 3: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: R Heart Media, I Heart Podcast, one eleven Productions, one

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Speaker 1: eleven Podcasts, one eleven Media. There's so many companies to name. Hi, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. You're joined by the trepid crew

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Speaker 1: of Daniel Romo, Terras, Dude, Amy Sugarman, Suzanne French.

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Speaker 3: And this is an episode of Point Counterpoint, with the

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Speaker 3: topic being Christopher akak Stiffer and I'm here for it.

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Speaker 4: I like Christopher, say.

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Speaker 3: You guys, So Michelle, you tell how we connect. But

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Speaker 3: I will say I didn't know until this very moment

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Speaker 3: where she stood on the Christopher versus Xtiffer. So nobody

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Speaker 3: write us and say I selected.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: My brother in law grew up in southern LA and

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Speaker 4: he's one of those people that just kind of knows everybody.

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Speaker 4: And I asked him one day because I really wanted

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Speaker 4: to get on the podcast. I said, do you happen

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Speaker 4: to know somebody named Amy Sugarman? And he said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: she was my sister's roommate in college. His sister is

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Speaker 4: JJ Martin and then he said his friend was actually

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Speaker 4: going to your house for around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: So you guys, like, this is completely unbeknownst to me

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Speaker 3: that Michelle just randomly lobbed out how did I get

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Speaker 3: on this podcast?

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Speaker 5: And then her rando brother in law was like, well.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I actually know her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, JJ Martin a shout out.

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Speaker 3: So, JJ Martin is a sorority sister of mine who

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Speaker 3: has gone on to literally have this fancy, fancy, amazing

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Speaker 3: designer clothing line and it's called Law Double J.

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Speaker 5: So shout out to our connection. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's amazing. She lives in Italy and she's in

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Speaker 4: Vogue all the time. I had no idea she was

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Speaker 4: like such a celebrity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like a legit full baller. But that's not

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Speaker 3: why we're here. Yeah, we're here to debate. Suzanne get

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Speaker 3: ready got spired up Christopher versus xtaper.

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Speaker 5: Michelle, you have the floor.

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Speaker 4: I happened to really like Christopher. I feel like he

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Speaker 4: is that high school sweetheart of Rory's. I love that

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Speaker 4: they had the young love and that connection. I feel

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Speaker 4: he's a better match for her in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the seasons for rather than Luke. Although I do feel.

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Speaker 1: That for me?

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Speaker 4: For me, but I feel towards season six and season

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Speaker 4: seventh at the end, after you know, she leaves Christopher,

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Speaker 4: that Luke is the better match. But the only thing

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Speaker 4: I don't really like about him is the way he

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Speaker 4: was a father to to Rory, being absent in her life.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like he really stepped it up. So

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Speaker 4: I'm a fan. Scott.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to rebut first or would you like

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Speaker 3: me to just ask my questions? Oh, Scott froze, which

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Speaker 3: I think, Oh my god, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Okay, first, Okay, my question is how does an absent

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Speaker 1: father for the entire life of a child have any

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Speaker 4: So was he actual absent? I mean, I think he

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Speaker 4: and I think he stepped it up once he got money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was sort of dipping his toe in. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So here's our first question for you, and Suzanne's gathering

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Speaker 4: I think they almost had like a brother sister chemistry

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Speaker 4: But in the end, she always wanted Luke deep down,

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Speaker 3: Like you kind of alluded to this, they do have

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Speaker 3: it is I think Suzanne sort of alluded to this

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Speaker 5: And I think, Okay, I'm gonna throw this out there.

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Speaker 3: When something major happens in your life, typically trauma, which

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Speaker 6: I think they'll always have that no matter what, like

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Speaker 5: And I'll never go away. I agree with you. I

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Speaker 3: Michelle, what do you think of David slash Christopher?

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Speaker 4: Just like physically, I think he's okay. I think Luke

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Speaker 3: Wait, Susanne, you don't, You're not You don't think, Susanne

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Speaker 5: I don't want to put words in your mouth. You

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Speaker 5: give it. What is your thought on Christopher.

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Speaker 2: The actor or the character?

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Speaker 3: The character, but the physicality of David Sutcliffe, Well, I

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Speaker 3: think in a shocking turn here, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think Christopher always has kind of a weird grin

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Speaker 2: I'm I agree that they have like a friendship kind

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Speaker 2: soulmate at all. I think he's just the boyfriend that

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Speaker 2: because they that unexpected pregnancy did happen, Like that's always

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Speaker 3: Just ribbing each other kind of the way you do

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Speaker 3: ribbing each other. Wait, so Scott, I have a question

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've been exhaling.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is there so try try to remove yourself and

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Speaker 5: Is there anything redeeming?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm reacting as a fan as well. Okay, being objected?

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Speaker 5: Okay, fair?

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Speaker 3: Is there anything redeeming you can find in Christopher and

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, if somebody is that big of a

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Speaker 1: it was like he had thirty five years of his shot. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: So since we kicked Danielle out, Suzanne Tara and Michelle

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Speaker 3: because Scott won't totally know. Don't you think finally in

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's better that somebody sees the light

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Speaker 3: Is your thought like that he's finally rebuilding the relationship

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Speaker 3: want to put words in your mouth, but is that right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like at a certain when you've had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you can't. You can't whine about your daddy.

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Speaker 5: He's turned out better than he could have sunlight. I

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Speaker 5: Well, no, she did.

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Speaker 6: Well, I also think it comes back.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I agree with that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: It's not a mystery, it's it's it's the least complicated

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Speaker 5: I respectfully disagree.

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Speaker 3: I don't find him to be what I would classify

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Speaker 1: Oy, I stand by your kids. Man, I don't care

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Speaker 5: So Michelle are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you glad you joined us as.

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Speaker 4: A little starstruck at first? When I sat, Scott thought

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Speaker 5: Tara, Suzanne and me rude.

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Speaker 4: You guys are amazing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so wait, obviously, if we were gonna ask you, Christopher, Digger, Maxi,

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Speaker 5: Who is your favorite? Who's your number two?

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Speaker 4: I think she had a lot of chemistry with Digger

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Speaker 3: He had a ch living room, he really did, and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's on Fire Country or Fire County or

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bello, Bella's dad. Yeah, with runs with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I can't think of his name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fantastic, fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, I'm looking it up.

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Speaker 3: Charlie.

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Speaker 5: Billy Burke, Billy Burke.

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Speaker 1: Yeh, Billy Burks a great, great musician.

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Speaker 3: Great, great, Well, Michelle, you get the final thoughts to

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Speaker 5: What is your favorite thing about Gilmore Girls.

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Speaker 4: It just gives me this really nostalgic feeling, small town charm.

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Speaker 4: I watch it every single day. It just is soothing

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Speaker 4: to me. It makes me. My husband laughs because I

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Speaker 4: But my favorite thing about it is probably just all

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Speaker 1: And I'm amazing. Isn't it amazing about this show, Michelle?

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Speaker 1: About all these great one liners. It's it's it's the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every time I rewatch it, I see something I

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Speaker 1: Before, right right, right, exactly. It's brilliant. It's just brilliant

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Speaker 1: that way. It really is.

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Speaker 5: Well, even though we fought you, we're glad you're here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, so excited to be on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Michelle for coming on and appreciate sharing our thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry for stalking you, Amy, Please I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Look, apologies for being such wallflowers. We are very, very

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Speaker 1: very hesitant to share our opinions. As you can what

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Speaker 1: was on display? Come back anytime and you'll probably change

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Speaker 1: your phone number after this and wait.

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Speaker 5: Maybe from Michelle you could deliver the uh you know

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Speaker 5: that I am all in mine?

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Speaker 1: What is that in line?

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Speaker 5: What was out the episode with our line I am

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Speaker 5: all in? I bet you'd like to hear you say it.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean the outro?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, say I am all in?

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Speaker 1: You want me to say that to Michelle right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think she would like to hear it.

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Speaker 1: And remember Michelle always I am all in? Or should

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Speaker 1: I say it like Luke said?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Give it to us like Luke? Sure?

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Speaker 1: What am I trained? Seal here? Give me another fish

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Speaker 1: and I'll do anything. Michelle, thanks for coming on, much appreciated.

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Speaker 1: We'll just see everybody next time. Thank you and trepid Crewe, Susan.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's left us, but but.

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Speaker 1: Uren, Everybody's gone all right. Thank you so much, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: You're great bear with us and sharing your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: this particular episode. And best fans on the planet, keep downloading,

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