Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern. Well, it is Wednesday here on this show,
Speaker 1: and you know what that means. It means I've got
Speaker 1: my invisil line in and I'm trying my best, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not used to talking yet, which I hadn't
Speaker 1: taking into consideration because that's sort of my job. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best here to get through this
Speaker 1: without doing weird stuff with my mouth and everything I got.
Speaker 1: But we got a lot to get into, so hopefully
Speaker 1: everything works out. We got dynamite tonight. We have six
Speaker 1: segments announced for the show and a seventh because Kenny
Speaker 1: Omega has been clear as we talked about a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago, his visa situation is cleared up. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the show, but we don't know what
Speaker 1: he's doing. We don't know why. So there's gonna be
Speaker 1: that as well. We'll go over the full line up
Speaker 1: for the show. We've also got the n x T Report.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of the week n x T. It
Speaker 1: is the go home show for Vengeance Day, which is
Speaker 1: this weekend, and we'll talk about the show, the lineup
Speaker 1: for Vengeance Day, all at Also news, Cody has been
Speaker 1: doing interviews and he's talked about how he's got a
Speaker 1: dream and after hearing his dream, I more than ever
Speaker 1: want Cody to win this w w E title and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Also Coda Bushy update on Coda Bushy.
Speaker 1: We've got the raw ratings from Monday night which once
Speaker 1: again big numbers. Because w w E is it's hot.
Speaker 1: It's hot right now. mL W and the w w
Speaker 1: E court case will tell you about that and plenty more.
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Speaker 1: get ament with more of Observer Live back on the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simper Vit also
Speaker 1: of Wrestling Observe dot com. I was looking at that
Speaker 1: Chad during the breaks when people are talking about in
Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at we Bailey, We God help me.
Speaker 1: And then of course there's uh, let's talk about n
Speaker 1: x T and the raw rating and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And Okay, first off, for those of you wondering, an
Speaker 1: XT is not legitimately my favorite show over the week. Okay,
Speaker 1: that part is a gimmick, but I do. I do
Speaker 1: enjoy watching n x T. I I look forward to
Speaker 1: Tuesday nights watching the show because I find the show
Speaker 1: to be fun and it entertains me even when it's dumb,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't care what anyone says. I don't
Speaker 1: even want to hear it. That main event last night
Speaker 1: was really good, the three way tag with Chase, you
Speaker 1: and uh enters no fe who I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys knows or not. He wasn't wearing a shirt
Speaker 1: and you know, Tad, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: told you that nobody wanted to listen anyway. And also
Speaker 1: also the schism, and you know I loved most about
Speaker 1: that main event. It's we have now seen it two
Speaker 1: times and I really don't know why it is. But
Speaker 1: for those of you that watch a lot of n
Speaker 1: x T, do you remember there was there was a show.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the circumstances were, but Joe Gacy
Speaker 1: was put in a position where he had to make
Speaker 1: a baby face hot tag. Do you remember? This? Was
Speaker 1: it in the lead up to the six six Way
Speaker 1: whatever it was? Bro This guy made such an awesome
Speaker 1: baby face hot tag. He was unbelievable. So you know,
Speaker 1: they're doing the storyline with with Chase You and with
Speaker 1: um with Duke Hudson, where Duke Udson is his he's
Speaker 1: joined Chase You. But the storyline is, you know, this
Speaker 1: guy is he's fixing a screwom or whatever. He's you know,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a wolf in cheap's clothing as they say,
Speaker 1: and so you know he's he's a bad guy, but
Speaker 1: he's he's he's working them. Well anyway, here's another one.
Speaker 1: They put him in position to make a baby face
Speaker 1: hot tag tonight, and my god, this guy's baby face
Speaker 1: hot tag was so awesome, to the point where like
Speaker 1: both him and Joe Gazing they make this hot tag
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why are these guys heels like turn
Speaker 1: these dudes, baby face, they're awesome at it. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's maybe like when you're always a
Speaker 1: heel and then there's that one day where you're giving
Speaker 1: something different to do and it's like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: get to make odd tags. Wait till you see this, brother,
Speaker 1: And then you're watching it's like, dude, what are all
Speaker 1: baby faces make hot tags like this? He was great.
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's a good show. We'll talk about it later.
Speaker 1: But the Raw ratings very quickly since they were huge,
Speaker 1: and yeah it was Joe Gas a team with Cameron Grimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Rod did two point one one million viewers and
Speaker 1: it was a point six four and eighteen and forty nine.
Speaker 1: So once again know on on cable and network, on
Speaker 1: all of television, Raw was the most watched show not
Speaker 1: in its time slot of the day. There was nothing
Speaker 1: else on Monday on television at any time that did
Speaker 1: a better eighteen to forty nine number than Monday Night Raw. No, nothing.
Speaker 1: It was the number one show of the whole day
Speaker 1: in eighteen to forty nine. So Raw was first in
Speaker 1: women eighteen to forty nine, more than doubled everything on
Speaker 1: cable in men eighteen to forty nine, more than doubled
Speaker 1: everything on cable in eighteen to thirty four, beat everything
Speaker 1: but The Bachelor on television in eighteen two thirty four,
Speaker 1: and uh in total viewers at Trail News, but in
Speaker 1: eighteen forty nine it trailed nothing. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: as note, obviously you know there's no football, there's no
Speaker 1: football competition, and it was the day after the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1: But last year there was also no football, and there
Speaker 1: was a show the day after the Royal rumble, and
Speaker 1: rob this year was up in viewers, up thirty four
Speaker 1: percent from the post Royal Rumble show in eighteen to
Speaker 1: forty nine and in eighteen to thirty four compared to
Speaker 1: last year's show, the exact same show the day after
Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble last year with no football, up forty
Speaker 1: five cent in eighteen to thirty four. So w W
Speaker 1: E is hot those of you that haven't noticed. Two
Speaker 1: point two two million first hour, two point one seven
Speaker 1: million second hour, which was a really really good Uh.
Speaker 1: They basically maintained everybody from our one hour two and
Speaker 1: then it did fall to one point nine six million
Speaker 1: an hour three, So there you go, you know, and
Speaker 1: I don't know you know what it is, because you
Speaker 1: know it's like I watched the show and it is different.
Speaker 1: But even I will tell you it's not substantially different,
Speaker 1: with the exception of actually, you know what it is
Speaker 1: in some way substantially different because we can now count
Speaker 1: on like two hands the number of storylines that they've
Speaker 1: advertised and changed. Literally it's two, it's two, and last
Speaker 1: week they would do two to three changes every week.
Speaker 1: It was like there was no point when Raw was
Speaker 1: over telling you what was announced for next week because
Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna happen. Now, when they announced stuff
Speaker 1: for next week, it happens. I guess it would be
Speaker 1: three times now because it was alts of that cage match,
Speaker 1: but uh, it happens virtually every single time. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just they announced what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: and then do it. I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: portion of the fan base that, you know, people would
Speaker 1: always say, especially after the Saudi shows, like I ain't
Speaker 1: watching this, I hate Vince, I cannot support Vince McMahon,
Speaker 1: and it's always like, you know, they say that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy it. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of this year over year changes is all
Speaker 1: after Vince left, and so it's possible there there is
Speaker 1: a percentage of fans that are like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's not booking this thing, and he's I guess he's
Speaker 1: kind of back now trying to sell it. But you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's uh, it's way up from where
Speaker 1: it was a year ago, and good for them. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a cop out to say that it's
Speaker 1: a little mixed everything everything. I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at the economy, if you're going out less and we
Speaker 1: saw this crunch as we went into the holidays with
Speaker 1: you know, the with that situation, Well, there's one thing
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about paying for if you've
Speaker 1: already got peacock or you've already got cable, there's you know,
Speaker 1: the USA network in football is out of the way,
Speaker 1: and they have been getting hot and there has been
Speaker 1: a lot of media attention put on them for maybe
Speaker 1: somebody who has not been paying attention closely, who heard
Speaker 1: about all this chaos going on and is wondering, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it for a while. Has it changed,
Speaker 1: you know since the last time I saw it? I
Speaker 1: think it's just a really a mix of everything and
Speaker 1: the fact that they're hot at a time where there's
Speaker 1: not much competition right now. Obviously the entertainment field is
Speaker 1: not giving them much to work with. Very disappointed with
Speaker 1: Below Deck here. You know, if I was going to
Speaker 1: give some sort of competition going on, but no, apparently not.
Speaker 1: You're at a time where college basketball is not cooking yet,
Speaker 1: the NBA is not cooking. Other than the All Star
Speaker 1: Break and HL the only thing going on people looking
Speaker 1: forward to for the most part right now is the
Speaker 1: trade deadline in a couple of weeks. So it's like
Speaker 1: this is a great time for them to shine a
Speaker 1: light upon themselves and have a really good run and
Speaker 1: put their best foot foot forward, not only leading into
Speaker 1: WrestleMania and Elimination Chamber for that matter, but because obviously
Speaker 1: it seems like the rest of the entertainment industry has
Speaker 1: seated itself to them. Yeah, is noted here like SmackDown
Speaker 1: Friday that that show is gonna do huge because it
Speaker 1: is the follow up to the Big Angle at the
Speaker 1: Royal Rumble. What's Jay doing, What's Sammy doing, What's Roman doing?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Yeah, we're getting Roman and Sammy in Montreal.
Speaker 1: So it's got to be announced. They gotta shoot that
Speaker 1: angle to get going. So that's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: show coming up on Friday. So Cody did an interview
Speaker 1: and he says he has a pipe dream. You ready
Speaker 1: for this? Yes, this guy is the man. He wants
Speaker 1: to bring back the wing of Eagle Jus just like you,
Speaker 1: no wonder why you see? That's it. That's why you
Speaker 1: kept for this guy all the time. That's why you're
Speaker 1: out there just putting on the cape for him and
Speaker 1: and talking. That's what all these people have been talking
Speaker 1: about with human Cape. Yeah, how how dare I report
Speaker 1: the factual statement that they sold out of all Cody
Speaker 1: merchandise all weekend and he was the biggest merchant seller
Speaker 1: by far. How am I bias for telling you what
Speaker 1: actually happened? Why are you mad at me? Bro? If
Speaker 1: they put well, they're already selling tons of wing deals,
Speaker 1: tons of them back in a moment they were alive.
Speaker 1: Sure I could go. I could go on for hours
Speaker 1: about the chapter during this breakan talk about belts. What
Speaker 1: are they doing? All right? Listen, listen, This current WF
Speaker 1: belt sucks, all right, It's a giant w it's a
Speaker 1: giant like, it's basically a giant Volkswagen, that thing on
Speaker 1: the front of your car on leather, Like, Since when
Speaker 1: did the company logo need to be the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: the championship belt? Since? Never? Is the answer. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: a big old w wow. Okay, now listen. I am
Speaker 1: an advocate of the the Winged Eagle belt. I think
Speaker 1: it's the best looking belt that they've ever made, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's it's the only one. They that
Speaker 1: that second Big Eagle they gave to Steve Auston, that
Speaker 1: was a sweet looking title, you know, the the one
Speaker 1: of those early undisputed titles. I think, uh, I think
Speaker 1: maybe uh Brock had I was all right. The Spinner
Speaker 1: belt was just trash, absolutely horrible. Oh, Mike, Mike's gotta
Speaker 1: bust out his old n w A belt again. Was
Speaker 1: the whatever the belt was behind here? The one that
Speaker 1: they went after, that all black belt that they had
Speaker 1: with the gold in the front. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a really good looking belt. I think wasn't that the
Speaker 1: undisputed belt for a while or something like that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: these people are going you know, I love the Spinner belt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do. If you started watching wrestling when Sena came
Speaker 1: out with a stupid belt, the spun. But other than
Speaker 1: people that came up literally right when that belt was
Speaker 1: the main belt, nobody likes that belt. It's dumb, it's spins,
Speaker 1: it's stupid. It's a gimmick, that's all it is. It's
Speaker 1: cool for him for a minute, that's what it's good for,
Speaker 1: but it's not long lasting, like the dome Globe or
Speaker 1: big Gold for example. A belt that looks better than
Speaker 1: the winged Eagle, not the wing it's winged. Get get
Speaker 1: with a get with the picture. You know what else
Speaker 1: is an awesome belt, Not the current one, but the
Speaker 1: previous i W g P title beautiful belt. The new
Speaker 1: belt sucks. The new belt looks like that belt that
Speaker 1: they made for Jeff Hardy and like and t n
Speaker 1: A that is his face paint on it or whatever.
Speaker 1: Stupid looking belt sucks. There was some great n w
Speaker 1: A the the old Liken w c W World Heavyweight
Speaker 1: Championship belt that Vader and and Flair as a sweet belt,
Speaker 1: those Dave Milliken belts. You know, look, there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of great belts over time, and very few great
Speaker 1: belt makers and Reggie par Ks, who passed away, was
Speaker 1: one of them, and he passed that on to Dave Milliken.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure about all the people out there
Speaker 1: now that make those types of belts, but Nikita Malkovich
Speaker 1: way back in the day, I mean, very few people,
Speaker 1: and they've done some incredible work that obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: we know to this day we're still talking about right now,
Speaker 1: not a one picture of belt in you oh wait here,
Speaker 1: but here it is as they sell them. That's the
Speaker 1: version up there. I like that. That's that. That's right.
Speaker 1: It's not as nice as the winged Eagle though. And
Speaker 1: you know that other one. Look, hey, hey, show everybody
Speaker 1: that that that atrocious oval intercondinal title belt. Oh I
Speaker 1: hate that, dude. That's the ugliest belt you know that is?
Speaker 1: You know what that is. That's when you go to
Speaker 1: uh the Seattle Aquarium and you put your penny in
Speaker 1: that gimmick and you turn the knob and like an
Speaker 1: elongated penny comes out. That's what that is. And another
Speaker 1: horrible belt is those old those old tag team belts
Speaker 1: that look like pennies and dying pennies. Yes, those were
Speaker 1: all actually is the ultimate example of going to one
Speaker 1: of those gimmicks at the beach or the trolley or whatever,
Speaker 1: and the copper down. It's ridiculous. He tell you something,
Speaker 1: If I win the tag team titles, which I will
Speaker 1: with Filthy Tom, I don't want. I don't want two pennies.
Speaker 1: How about gold? Brother? What do you think I'm in
Speaker 1: this for copper? Yeah, I'm gonna get a belt that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my my thing that's gonna turn
Speaker 1: green like the Statue of Liberty. What am I wanting
Speaker 1: a copper belt? Are you sure? Hey? Listen, I don't want.
Speaker 1: I don't make me mute you again. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I don't want to be talking.
Speaker 1: I realized I'm coming back again. But there's a reason
Speaker 1: for it, and no one's talking me out of it.
Speaker 1: Do you understand? Thank you? Now you know what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say about the continental title. Cody, y'all forget.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that they got rid of that elongated
Speaker 1: penny and they brought back the old school intercontinental title.
Speaker 1: So there's anybody that can get rid of these stupid
Speaker 1: giant ws. Somebody here goes, yeah, Well, when they hand
Speaker 1: out a title belt to the you know, they whoever
Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl or whatever. Yeah, people understand why
Speaker 1: they got an evil Oh, because they understand when they
Speaker 1: got a w oh, here here's a belt with a
Speaker 1: W on it. Yeah, that then the common person is
Speaker 1: gonna go, yeah, well, look what is this really about?
Speaker 1: When it came then I got it double? What is it? Look,
Speaker 1: it's it's about them giving look w W across the Look.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me too why they wouldn't actually put
Speaker 1: a plate of the team in there and maybe have
Speaker 1: w W A on the side plates. But look, and
Speaker 1: it became an accepted thing in the sports world. We're
Speaker 1: going to give you our logo to hold up on
Speaker 1: national TV anytime you have a parade or any of
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. In a way, it was kind
Speaker 1: of brilliant to do. It's obnoxious, it's ridiculous, but it
Speaker 1: was actually kind of a brilliant thing to do. Now,
Speaker 1: did you ever hear the story about that whole logo itself,
Speaker 1: the Scratch logo? Did I ever hear the story about
Speaker 1: the Scratch logo? Yes? I don't know. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of stories. What's the story? Brian Solomon, who wrote
Speaker 1: that chic book and I worked with in the Wrestling News.
Speaker 1: He used to work for WWF F magazine and they
Speaker 1: were going through the whole change. I guess this is
Speaker 1: a story that he had heard about the old block
Speaker 1: logo that the WWF had. And remember the legendary story
Speaker 1: about Vince getting such a low rating on raw that
Speaker 1: he freaked out. And this was the rating when they
Speaker 1: were in Europe for a raw that was taped and
Speaker 1: it did a bottomed out terrible rating. W CW had
Speaker 1: a good one and he lost it. This is what
Speaker 1: opened the door for Vince Russo to come in and
Speaker 1: around that time, and he's upset and he's looking at
Speaker 1: the block logo and he smashes it in front of
Speaker 1: everyone and he scribbled on a white board what basically
Speaker 1: became the scratch logo that you see the w w
Speaker 1: F logo that you saw before it became just the
Speaker 1: ww and underneath it he actually on the white board
Speaker 1: because he's Vince wrote a big set of balls. And
Speaker 1: when they actually came to you know, look for ideas
Speaker 1: about the logo, they did have to break it to
Speaker 1: him that no, Vince, we we can't put the balls
Speaker 1: under the logo. But what we can do is actually
Speaker 1: create the swirl. So the swirl that was underneath that
Speaker 1: logo on the original Scratch logo was actually Vince's balls.
Speaker 1: Uh with with this guy in his own testicles? Like,
Speaker 1: what's up with this guy? He's got grate? What a
Speaker 1: weird guy. It's just a weird creep. Well, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: got dynamite. You don't even need an NDA to say
Speaker 1: it dynamite. Tonight, John Moxley versus Hangman, Page my Pants
Speaker 1: three third time. So uh, I mean, there's there's two
Speaker 1: possibilities here. One is, for some reason they're doing a
Speaker 1: blowoff now and the winner is going to get a
Speaker 1: big match at the pay per view, or we're doing
Speaker 1: three to do what UFC did, which is lead to
Speaker 1: a quadrilogy a quad what did what did they call that?
Speaker 1: They made up some words super effective, like a quadrug
Speaker 1: or something like that, which is gonna be coming up
Speaker 1: in the pay per view, So I guess we'll find
Speaker 1: out tonight. Yeah, they made up a weird word. What
Speaker 1: did they call it? Is? Because the one incorporated you
Speaker 1: know what, hey, listen, I'll look it up on Wikipedia. UFC.
Speaker 1: What was the last UFC was UFC twenty four was
Speaker 1: last quadraphia or maybe that's coming up. Was UFC two
Speaker 1: eighty three last? There it is? Okay, now they actually
Speaker 1: they actually wrote it on Wikipedia, which was the funniest thing.
Speaker 1: They used blown calf or qua UFC two eighty three. Okay, ready, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm not oh, okay, I remember when ufc s
Speaker 1: were in the ones because it was the first one.
Speaker 1: It was a long time ago. Now, okay, you see
Speaker 1: flyweight Championship unification tetrology about Oh they changed it a tetrology.
Speaker 1: They changed it now they're calling it a tetrology. Tetrology.
Speaker 1: What is a tetrology? They had made up a word
Speaker 1: they have brought in us new words. They called it
Speaker 1: like on the paper they actually called it a quadrology
Speaker 1: or something like that because it was the fourth time
Speaker 1: there never been there never been four. Let's see tetrology
Speaker 1: a group of four related literary or operatic works, or
Speaker 1: in medicine, a set of four related symptoms or abnormalities
Speaker 1: frequently occurring together. Yeah, well they didn't they didn't know
Speaker 1: tetrology at the time because they called it a quadrology.
Speaker 1: So if anybody can find where that was written, let
Speaker 1: me know so I can I can talk about it
Speaker 1: here anyway, we have that tetrology is only in the
Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary. Here, Brian Danielson versus Timothy Thatcher, we got
Speaker 1: Jake Cargill in Red Velvet, Darby Allen and Samoa Joe
Speaker 1: No holds Barred Takeshi versus Brian Cage and the Acclaimed
Speaker 1: against t b A. Can we get that belt off
Speaker 1: Derby Police? Why? Here's why I love Darby Allen, I
Speaker 1: really do. But he is to me not the guy
Speaker 1: that I want to have holding the t n T title.
Speaker 1: I know he's I'm not sure how he works for
Speaker 1: ratings anymore. I know at one point he did cause
Speaker 1: a spike in them, and I would want to incorporate
Speaker 1: him into the show. But the style that he wrestles,
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know. He's more of a feature guy.
Speaker 1: I would rather see Samoa Joe with that belt out there,
Speaker 1: kind of bringing back the open challenge or or having
Speaker 1: a few you know, that's meaningful that way to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just the way that I prefer
Speaker 1: Darby Allen, and I think that's the way you make
Speaker 1: him last for for longer too, because him going out
Speaker 1: there every week doing these types of matches. I know
Speaker 1: you now they're to last. I know, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And if it's up to him, what I'm saying means
Speaker 1: nothing anyway, and I know this, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's just my preference. Bro Darby is literally doing what
Speaker 1: you just asked for, which is an open challenge every week,
Speaker 1: facing if wanted with him, because I just don't want
Speaker 1: to see this guy kill himself. I know he's you
Speaker 1: try to explain away from the top rope that drop kick,
Speaker 1: and I don't care how you cut it. I don't
Speaker 1: care if he breaks his fall or not. It's still
Speaker 1: a kind of a dumb bump to do over and
Speaker 1: over again. Well, listen, he I believe he should beat
Speaker 1: some O Joe tonight, and then I believe that shortly
Speaker 1: thereafter he should he should be destroyed by Hobbs. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like, you should become the new T and T champion.
Speaker 1: But anyway, back in a moment with more horrible takes
Speaker 1: from Mike, you stop man the show. Brian Elvera is
Speaker 1: here Wrestling Observer Live MIXCEMPT for Baby also Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot Com look on Twitter. Wants to know if this
Speaker 1: invisitial line hurts n I'm at the point where I
Speaker 1: don't even notice it until I try and say a
Speaker 1: word that doesn't work anymore. Like what you're in there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, just I'm not I'm not keeping track. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, somebody wants to get this
Speaker 1: thing done? Like, what are they gonna have to run
Speaker 1: into here? What are you having trouble saying right now?
Speaker 1: Not certain words? I have my tongue runs into the thing. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's also according to a dumb quadrilogy? Is what they
Speaker 1: called it? A quadrilogy? Yeah? Have that running into your tone?
Speaker 1: Sally sells Seashells by the Seashore apparently not ses I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Pitch Black match We Bailey No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we Bailey. Alright, we gotta talk about n x T
Speaker 1: here and then we'll go some other in New Is.
Speaker 1: That's pretty fun, show man. This in Due Share versus
Speaker 1: Creed Brothers match. That was one ugly match, brother Man.
Speaker 1: They got in there and they battled hosted about and
Speaker 1: the big spot at the end is uh Ivy Niles
Speaker 1: on the apron. She's yelling at I think somebody, Oh
Speaker 1: my hall she's yelling at the hall and then Julius
Speaker 1: ends up hitting the ropes and man, he knocked her
Speaker 1: in the next week and he feels all bad, and
Speaker 1: then he gets hit with their choke slam one two three,
Speaker 1: they get pinned. So, man, she had been telling them
Speaker 1: in storyline, you can't beat these guys. You can't beat
Speaker 1: these guys. You can't beat these guys. They're finally about
Speaker 1: to beat them, and she is the reason, inadvertently that
Speaker 1: they were unable to beat these guys. We had a
Speaker 1: wacky conversation backstage with Tyler Bate and a kid. I'm sorry, Axiom,
Speaker 1: but in storyline, everybody knows he's a kid. So they're
Speaker 1: talking about a kid. Whatever happened to that guy? You know,
Speaker 1: you remind me a lot of a kid. So they
Speaker 1: agree to have a match later and then Damon Kemp
Speaker 1: walks up and makes fun of the British style of
Speaker 1: wrestling on a jerk. We had Zoe Stark and Indie
Speaker 1: arguing over who did better in the rumble? Is this
Speaker 1: even an argument? And uh, this leads to a match.
Speaker 1: Zoe beats Indie. It just was kind of there, And
Speaker 1: I've asked a question every week for months now, What
Speaker 1: is the point of this indie heartwell thing? What are
Speaker 1: they doing? What's going on? I don't get it. Boston
Speaker 1: chanting indie wrestling, or at least a handful of Chance
Speaker 1: fans trying to chant indie wrestling. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We had right now. It looked they played off of
Speaker 1: her slip up in the rumble too. Did you notice
Speaker 1: that at the end, because I know, look, she's like
Speaker 1: a you know, baby deer on ice most of the
Speaker 1: time anyway, But I think that slip on the top
Speaker 1: rope was supposed to be intentional. So again I can
Speaker 1: see her going back to being depressed in the Remember
Speaker 1: she was depressed, she got her fire all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she was piste off at everybody. Well, I can see
Speaker 1: her dripping back into sadness again. And let's go back
Speaker 1: to what we were doing before. That wasn't working because
Speaker 1: he has got to come back and save the day
Speaker 1: of the Rumble. They didn't do it. He can't walk
Speaker 1: around with a hatchet on National TV forever? Actually can?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why not. Apparently it's allowed.
Speaker 1: I guess that we had Wesley and die Jack and
Speaker 1: Von Wagner doing a interview segment and the less said
Speaker 1: about that when the matter, but it led to Die
Speaker 1: versus von Wagner, which actually was a fun match, two
Speaker 1: big dudes, loss of near falls, they did stuff they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to do. Crowd was going crazy, and
Speaker 1: finally Diject pins Wagner to set up that match and
Speaker 1: continue the feud with Wesley at the base. Make him
Speaker 1: a team, make those two guys an ass kicking team.
Speaker 1: You know what you need to do is, first off,
Speaker 1: you just need to get rid of this Diject gimmick.
Speaker 1: It absolutely sucks. I mean, no, you know what he is.
Speaker 1: He's an n XT. His his gimmick is literally an
Speaker 1: n XT wrestler with a bad gimmick who doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to cut promos because they script out these wooden
Speaker 1: lines which he then delivers in the most wooden manner possible.
Speaker 1: It's it's preposterous. It's like he hasn't been It's like
Speaker 1: he's been doing this for like it's like as a wrestler,
Speaker 1: he's been doing it for years. But you know, the
Speaker 1: actual you know person just now got into wrestling. It
Speaker 1: doesn't know what they're doing. This character and the interviews
Speaker 1: are not found the right thing to match the man yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I don't know this dude, but I see interactions
Speaker 1: with him. I remember him in r o Age and
Speaker 1: in evolving all that stuff. They they have not found
Speaker 1: the right die Jack yet. But which is funny because
Speaker 1: the man that he beat, Von Wagner, they literally did
Speaker 1: a segment with Robert Stone, and Robert Stone in the
Speaker 1: back goes, Von this ain't working. Damn right, it ain't
Speaker 1: working because he just lost and and then Mr Stone goes,
Speaker 1: why am I managing you? And Von Wagner's like what
Speaker 1: And Mr Stone goes, I've been managing you for years
Speaker 1: and I literally know nothing about you. I know you're big,
Speaker 1: and I know you grunt, but like other than that,
Speaker 1: what what do I know? What does anybody know about you?
Speaker 1: Like if you want to go further in this business?
Speaker 1: He said, we need to know more about you. We
Speaker 1: need to know who this Von Wagner guy is, Like
Speaker 1: is this a shoot? And then you know, then they
Speaker 1: steal some line from whatever that stupid Tom Cruise movie was,
Speaker 1: Help me help you, and then he storms off and
Speaker 1: and but it's the same thing with with the die Jack.
Speaker 1: You're right. But look, if that was kind of a shoot,
Speaker 1: because what do we know about Finger, then he's a
Speaker 1: big guy that yeah, exactly, so you know a little
Speaker 1: is that? What? What that qualifies a little ribbing on
Speaker 1: the square? I guess not. I don't know. But what
Speaker 1: matters here is bottom line, you can do something with
Speaker 1: this guy, and the same thing goes with Dai Jack
Speaker 1: and to me, if nothing else, you could put them together.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this person is right n XT
Speaker 1: did have me at hello. Then we had uh uh
Speaker 1: Stacks and Tony D'Angelo. I guess they're going to take
Speaker 1: care of things. How long does this take? Like you're
Speaker 1: an underboss, dude, it's been weeks. Whatever you're trying to do,
Speaker 1: do it. Then we had a hilarious segment. So Mackenzie goes,
Speaker 1: let's break down this footage of the Nikita lion attack.
Speaker 1: So they show the footage and they do it in
Speaker 1: like slow motion, and they pause it and they highlight
Speaker 1: certain things and they're looking for suspects. Well, what's funny
Speaker 1: is they reiterate what Vinny noted on The Brandon Vinnie
Speaker 1: Show last week, which is it nobody cared the Nikki
Speaker 1: Lyons was on the ground, crying and holding her knee like.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just wandering around. Like mckennzill goes, oh, here's uh,
Speaker 1: it throws out two names. I them mightn't even know,
Speaker 1: just wandering around. Oh, and then here's such and such
Speaker 1: just walking away. Oh and in the background you can
Speaker 1: see so and so and so and so. They're just
Speaker 1: standing there. And then hey, look who's peeking their head
Speaker 1: out of that car. It's uh, the lady that sleeps
Speaker 1: and drinks the gimmick. She's just watching. I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a horrible locker room. Like, I'll punch horrible people.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares except like indies. She was the only one
Speaker 1: that cared that Nikita was down. We don't have a suspect,
Speaker 1: could be anybody that didn't care. And we had Tyler
Speaker 1: Bait and Axiom. Dude, this match ruled. While it lasted,
Speaker 1: Tyler Bait beat him. Booker t has already figured out this.
Speaker 1: Tyler bates awesome. After last week when he was trying
Speaker 1: to convince himself he was no good, now he realized
Speaker 1: he's great. David Kemp runs in, beats up Axiom, Tyler
Speaker 1: Bait runs him off. Yeah, Isla don and Albifire do
Speaker 1: some spooky stuff together. I am so so over it.
Speaker 1: Carmelo and and Hayes do a promo. What what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What did what did tricks say? He goes, I ain't
Speaker 1: shaking as it's cold outside. I'm I'm shaking like a
Speaker 1: booty on Friday night. I think I was shaking like
Speaker 1: booty meat on Friday night, but not because I'm trembling
Speaker 1: with fear. It's because it's cold outside. The crowd gasped
Speaker 1: Mackenzie's face, Carmelo's face for that matter. Then we had
Speaker 1: a sit down interview with toxic attraction rock Sand, and
Speaker 1: apparently they figured out next week, Callie, these toxic attraction women,
Speaker 1: when you have them talk instead of Mandy, it's good.
Speaker 1: And so they tore it up on the mic last week,
Speaker 1: and then this week they just they just kept going.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even let rock Sand talk. So finally she
Speaker 1: walks off and then she attacks him and there's a
Speaker 1: wild brawl. It's a good segment. They they they it's
Speaker 1: like amazing, all of a sudden, they figured out these
Speaker 1: this g G and j C can actually do promos.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought, Wait a second, that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that they were good at before they were Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they always had Mandy do all the talking and
Speaker 1: she was just there. It's just the normal w W
Speaker 1: E speak. Nothing happening these two, especially JC kind of
Speaker 1: j C is always playing a character that's the because
Speaker 1: you know, she does the exaggerated facial expressions and all
Speaker 1: this cartoons. Yeah, but I mean she's good at doing that.
Speaker 1: But you know, g G is legitimately good, like she
Speaker 1: legitimately comes off as an actual human being and she's
Speaker 1: a good promo. So we need more of that. Stevie
Speaker 1: Turner debuted beat Danny Palmer. It's just debut. Drew Gulak
Speaker 1: beat Charlie Dempsey after Charlie got sent into Hank got monked,
Speaker 1: rolled up and pinned. I'll talk about this more tomorrow
Speaker 1: on The Briant Vinet Show. But this is one of
Speaker 1: those storylines where it continues on every week like it.
Speaker 1: It is literally a long term story that they've been
Speaker 1: doing segments every week. Yet I have no idea what's
Speaker 1: going on. I don't get it. Having watched all of them,
Speaker 1: I'm as confused as as if i'd watch none of it.
Speaker 1: And then we had a great main event, which is
Speaker 1: Chase you Die Ad, and uh, you know, I've said
Speaker 1: it a million times. Whatever you think about the die Ad,
Speaker 1: they're a great team. The gimmick just sucks. And then
Speaker 1: we had Edgerson Malik, and so like you have Andre
Speaker 1: and Duke who are good workers and uh, and you
Speaker 1: have the die Ad who are good workers, and you
Speaker 1: have Ederson Malik who are green but they can do
Speaker 1: cool stuff. And so there's four other good workers to
Speaker 1: you know, set up all their stuff. And then you
Speaker 1: had a good storyline where you know, they got heat
Speaker 1: on Chase and first he tries to make a tag,
Speaker 1: but oh man, you know, uh, Duke's not there. And
Speaker 1: then he tries to go over and he tries to
Speaker 1: tag the other two baby face, they get yanked off
Speaker 1: the apron. They've almost beat this guy, but he finally
Speaker 1: makes that awesome hot tag to Duke. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of great spots in this match, and finally the end,
Speaker 1: Chase you wins. And man, I don't know how it's
Speaker 1: gonna work out on the main suster, but when Andre
Speaker 1: Chase does the garbon stump spelling out Chase you do,
Speaker 1: this place goes nuts for this chant. And so finally
Speaker 1: they get the big win with you know, all the
Speaker 1: great things I said about the match. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this finishes. It's it's dumb looking. Hopefully they get
Speaker 1: a better one, but they won, and then on the
Speaker 1: big screen, New Day shows up and they hype up
Speaker 1: the match, the take team title match coming up at
Speaker 1: Vengeance Day, and then you know what the what the
Speaker 1: best thing on the show actually was is when this
Speaker 1: match was over, we had a music video hype package
Speaker 1: for Vengeance Day and man, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was Borash. I presume it was Borash. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that that Borash is doing for n x T,
Speaker 1: but he's also doing stuff for the main roster, and
Speaker 1: I at this point, I don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He used to do all the n x T stuff,
Speaker 1: but now he's doing main roster stuff too, so it's
Speaker 1: like I kind of can figure out what he does,
Speaker 1: but not always. But man, whoever did this did a
Speaker 1: great job, because you watch his video packs, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: this thing is hot and I can't wait to watch
Speaker 1: this show on Saturday. So they did a great job
Speaker 1: with that Vengeance Day hip package, and hopefully the show
Speaker 1: is good. You know, I've had all sorts of issues
Speaker 1: here with my my camera here and in the in
Speaker 1: the hook up, so sadly I can't be seen saying
Speaker 1: this probably, but if when, when Jeremy Barrash retires, or
Speaker 1: if he ever decides to to step away, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I would love to talk to him about some of
Speaker 1: his Oh man during for years, n X would impact
Speaker 1: everything that he's done. I mean way back to w
Speaker 1: c W Live. I mean, an amazing guy back up
Speaker 1: with Mores Ever Live. And I know it's gonna make
Speaker 1: people mad, but I'm an honest man, and I think
Speaker 1: if you really think about it, you'd agree with me.
Speaker 1: But somebody asked, you know, h b K booker of
Speaker 1: the Year. I would not say that HBK is the
Speaker 1: book of the year, but bro, I came up watching
Speaker 1: w c W Russo then like you know, uh, Eric,
Speaker 1: and then I lived through ten A and it's dirt
Speaker 1: worst Ken with Russo and Eric and dude, I've watched
Speaker 1: a lot of badly, horribly booked professional wrestling over the years.
Speaker 1: And you know, while I would not say he's the
Speaker 1: booker of the year, Sean's doing given what he's got
Speaker 1: this developmental roster. He's doing a good job. And Hunter
Speaker 1: is doing a good job, and Tony con is doing
Speaker 1: a good job. And honestly, like right now in American wrestling,
Speaker 1: like I know people they don't want to like this,
Speaker 1: they don't want to like that. And yeah they're stupid
Speaker 1: stuff on all of the shows and everything here and there.
Speaker 1: But really as far as booking, everything's fine right now.
Speaker 1: In in some ways it's good they didn't live through
Speaker 1: Brian Wait time about the retro roz brow some real
Speaker 1: stupid stuff in there too, Unless you had maybe Smoky
Speaker 1: Mountain for a while, that was that was good, but
Speaker 1: like it was so small and and very few people
Speaker 1: had access. The American wrestling scene in ninety three is
Speaker 1: something I hope nobody ever has to live for again.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that all Japan got so big. Everybody
Speaker 1: had to look elsewhere. It sucked. It was good stuff,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it sucked. Well, we're at a
Speaker 1: time everybody want to thank you all for this thing.
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