Speaker 1: There is a new GM here in DC. Oh it
Speaker 1: feels welcome. So we're gonna celebrate that and never gonna
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Speaker 2: I'm jinx. I love that.
Speaker 1: You Just have some notes here, Sanna writes down and
Speaker 1: the first thing says, long weekend recap for MLK day.
Speaker 2: Fred chooses peace.
Speaker 3: Yes, I came in, you know, came here because you
Speaker 3: know what, when I come to work, because I'm a
Speaker 3: trains talking everybody starts talking trads, Oh, immediately, immediately, like
Speaker 3: they feel like they gotta get me before I get them.
Speaker 3: So yesterday I came in. I was unnormally quiet.
Speaker 2: Oh were you?
Speaker 3: I was more like congratulator, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like because Martin Luther king down like you know what,
Speaker 3: tomorrowm gonna go in and I'm gonna choose peace.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let anything they want to say that they've
Speaker 3: been holding in, Yeah, six months, gone let it out.
Speaker 3: And boy did they attack me yesterday.
Speaker 2: And you just absorbed that. John Wyatt and thoughtful like
Speaker 2: doctor k I just I.
Speaker 4: Just took it.
Speaker 3: London Fletcher just jail out to jail out to jail.
Speaker 3: Logan I mean Logan Polson just jail out to jail.
Speaker 3: Even the end terms getting on me right. So at
Speaker 3: the end of the day it was fired. I let
Speaker 3: them have their day.
Speaker 2: But then today I walked in the.
Speaker 1: Day after and immediately I hear you talking smack him,
Speaker 1: Maddie like she belongs in the semipro league.
Speaker 2: When it comes to bowling, well, because I'm a bowler,
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 4: I'm a bowling. I'm seriously thinking about going pro again.
Speaker 3: I think the PBA needs the young star that toss trash,
Speaker 3: that just brings the masses, because to me, bowling is
Speaker 3: the ultimate family sport, like it's the sport that you
Speaker 3: can do with your family. I always enjoyed it, but
Speaker 3: it's lost a lot of his fire. Is the new
Speaker 3: sports and the main sports taking.
Speaker 2: Over falling off a lot.
Speaker 4: It's falling off.
Speaker 3: So I need to be the guy to usher it
Speaker 3: back into prominence. Because you only as good as your players.
Speaker 3: And the one thing about it, they got great players,
Speaker 3: but none of them sells themselves.
Speaker 4: None of them sells the game. And this is what
Speaker 4: I think I could do in the PBA.
Speaker 2: I remember the eighties, you turn on the TV on
Speaker 2: the weekend, there would.
Speaker 3: Be like bowling everywhere, just everywhere. And it's one of
Speaker 3: those unique sports similar to golf, where you could take
Speaker 3: you a good old beer to the head and continue
Speaker 3: to get batter like this. The thing I really love
Speaker 3: about this sport, I dig it. I love bowling. It's
Speaker 3: one of my great pastimes.
Speaker 1: Have you ever honestly looked at saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe I could compete some tournaments?
Speaker 2: No, because I feel like, what are you serious about it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Because I played in tournaments even when I was
Speaker 4: playing football.
Speaker 3: The Bowl Realey was like two three miles away from
Speaker 3: my house, so I would be the youngster amongst all
Speaker 3: the older people playing in the tournament. I won many tournaments.
Speaker 3: I bowled numerous three hundred games. I most definitely think
Speaker 3: if I took it very serious and I, like any
Speaker 3: other sport, worked out and bowled every day, I might
Speaker 3: come in here with a right armide eyes of Zeus.
Speaker 4: And a little lepu.
Speaker 3: But I know this, I can compete with them. It's
Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 4: PBA. If you want a real style. I'm sitting right here.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks like this team has a real star
Speaker 1: in the general manager. And then this guy came in immediately.
Speaker 1: We know about his resume, but he also came in
Speaker 1: and I thought he was.
Speaker 2: Very, very demonstrative in what he is looking for.
Speaker 1: And I love that he said, I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: an offensive guy or defensive I'm looking for a leader.
Speaker 3: You know what, Thank lord, we are through paying the
Speaker 3: loser's tax, all right, thank lord. We we got the
Speaker 3: pick of the litter, we got the bill of the ball,
Speaker 3: and it took us weeks. A couple of weeks like
Speaker 3: this shows the difference in what's going on. And as
Speaker 3: I said in his pressler yesterday, and watch this good
Speaker 3: looking stud out to my I said, we'll put these
Speaker 3: Adam Peters in a movie.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know leg a question.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe Chris Pine because he.
Speaker 2: Has you know, he's got a look.
Speaker 4: Ain't got that look about itself.
Speaker 3: So and I love that he a family man, but
Speaker 3: I also love his background. He's Denver, New England, forty
Speaker 3: nine ers. He's been with winners and that's all I want.
Speaker 3: I want somebody been there, done that. He's put teams together.
Speaker 3: He understands it's about the Jimmy and joes more than
Speaker 3: the exes and o's. He understands, if you want the
Speaker 3: coach to make that dinner right, you got to get
Speaker 3: the groceries right. And here is the grocerymain. He is
Speaker 3: the guy that's gonna find the players. And like he said,
Speaker 3: I got what they call a clean slate protocol. I
Speaker 3: literally got half a roster I got to fill out.
Speaker 3: I got numerous draft picks, and I got ninety million
Speaker 3: dollar cap space. How bathered can you put make a
Speaker 3: team in your identity? Like that's how you do it.
Speaker 3: And usually take gms three years because they need to
Speaker 3: cycle out certain things. This is a day one reveal,
Speaker 3: like he said, this ain't a reveal. This just re
Speaker 3: establishing stuff. So I love the way he used, I
Speaker 3: love the way he looks at things, and I can't
Speaker 3: wait to see him get the work. But I know,
Speaker 3: like most people, the gym can only do so much.
Speaker 3: And I love that this franchise got their man. Yeah
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 2: This isn't like being a prim and saying, well this
Speaker 2: person turned me down this first, I guess.
Speaker 1: No, this was the one. This was this was the person,
Speaker 1: the GM that this organization wanted.
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that he wanted us.
Speaker 3: Yes, and this the whole thing, like he said, sleeping giants,
Speaker 3: everything's here, it's hashtagged back to prominence.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day.
Speaker 3: He understands the history of this franchise and we don
Speaker 3: went through so many changes all right to the point.
Speaker 4: Where some people don't even recognize the brand anymore.
Speaker 3: So now it's it's by time we take all of
Speaker 3: that garbage to say, just watch us play football. And
Speaker 3: that's what I think everybody in the area wants to
Speaker 3: get back to. Everybody period wants to get back to.
Speaker 3: And you have to take these baby steps. Well that
Speaker 3: was the first step. Now let's see him go to
Speaker 3: work and see who he finds out to be out
Speaker 3: head coach. Now that'll be his first job that he
Speaker 3: has to get done.
Speaker 1: How important is it when you hire a general manager
Speaker 1: or someone in a man position, particularly talk about this
Speaker 1: franchise who understands the complete history.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the last.
Speaker 3: Twenty years about And this is a football guy.
Speaker 4: This is a guy that know the history of football.
Speaker 3: This is a guy ha been there, Like he said,
Speaker 3: were talking about a team in the NFC East. Were
Speaker 3: talking about a team that's been here. We're talking about
Speaker 3: the nation's capital. Like, people don't understand the reach of
Speaker 3: the Washington football team.
Speaker 4: It ain't too many cities in the world.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, it's not many at all that has kings, queens,
Speaker 3: princesses and princesses living here in embassies. Like so, where
Speaker 3: you think these people not watching you and playing attention
Speaker 3: to you. You they are, They know who you are,
Speaker 3: what you do, how you do it. So he understands
Speaker 3: where we're trying to get back to. But not only
Speaker 3: are we trying to get back there, we're trying to
Speaker 3: surpass that we see.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people don't understand if you.
Speaker 3: Was a Patriots fan before the last two years, they
Speaker 3: were bad.
Speaker 4: What did you have?
Speaker 1: Jicks or Kayam used to own the Remington Shaved Company.
Speaker 1: They had one Super Bowl appearance. They didn't play you
Speaker 1: let stadium. They were an awful organization.
Speaker 3: Awful So I'm not now, but not like what about
Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors. Twenty years nobody watched the Golden
Speaker 3: State wars I'm talking about the Chris Webber days. Nobody
Speaker 3: watched the team. So we've seen franchises flip. We've seen
Speaker 3: this happen by simply getting the white people in the building,
Speaker 3: which is not an easy thing. Just because somebody did
Speaker 3: good in one spot don't guarantee they're gonna do good
Speaker 3: in another spot.
Speaker 4: But this was the first step back to prominence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I And also when you're talking about I
Speaker 1: know some people say, well the Golden State words had
Speaker 1: a couple good years.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about a couple of good years.
Speaker 1: No. No, we're not talking about a couple of good
Speaker 1: years for the Patriots back in itdious. We're talking about
Speaker 1: championship football or championship franchise.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the legacy the Pittsburgh still has had, right,
Speaker 3: We're talking about the legacy the Green Bay Packers have.
Speaker 3: How lucky these guys to get three back to back stars. Basically,
Speaker 3: Joorne Love is looking like a star. They got two
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers and now they're going to joint Love.
Speaker 3: That's structural. We understand how we do things that we're
Speaker 3: going to continue to do them and cycle them this way.
Speaker 3: So that's what we won't hear. And if you're in
Speaker 3: a division with the Philadelphia Eagles, they will not stop coming.
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys will not stop coming. The Giants won't be
Speaker 3: down forever, all right, So you have to stay on
Speaker 3: your p's and q's. In his nfcast, what does it
Speaker 3: mean as.
Speaker 1: A player, because you certainly play in different organizations and
Speaker 1: you always hear that no matter the sport, that I
Speaker 1: trust the leadership that we have, and it makes me
Speaker 1: feel better knowing I'm a part of this organization because
Speaker 1: of that leadership.
Speaker 4: We live in the nation's capital. President assemble.
Speaker 3: Leadership like that that shows you leadership is everything. If
Speaker 3: you lead, they will follow. Because guess what, when these
Speaker 3: players make it to the league, they want to be
Speaker 3: the best. Don't ever think they don't jinx. All of
Speaker 3: them want to be Pro Bowlers, all of them want
Speaker 3: to be a part of a championship team.
Speaker 4: All of them want to leave legacy. But it ain't
Speaker 4: no guarantee we all will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's so far and in between that a
Speaker 3: team gets everything right players, head coach, leadership takes them
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, ain't no guarantee they going back
Speaker 3: to the next year. Look at what happened in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Looked like everything was lined up there was ten and one,
Speaker 3: but we knew that ten and one was through Gayzy.
Speaker 3: We knew something was something wasn't right about it. So
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, once you got good leadership,
Speaker 3: you had a chance to win each and every game.
Speaker 1: And that's crucial as a player too, when you know
Speaker 1: someone believes in you.
Speaker 4: I got your back.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I remember a few years ago. It
Speaker 2: was a while back now, but.
Speaker 1: I worked at the station and my general manager called
Speaker 1: me in and said, listen, you might get a little
Speaker 1: criticism from corporate because they don't quite get you.
Speaker 2: She goes, I think you're great.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to worry about them, And I
Speaker 1: was like, that's all I need to hear.
Speaker 2: It goes so good.
Speaker 4: Listen, my god, coach Gibbs, was that for me.
Speaker 3: I love how you practice. I love you, love the practice,
Speaker 3: I love how you play. If anybody got your back,
Speaker 3: I got you back. So when I was in Minnesota
Speaker 3: hating it, there, guess who I get on the phone.
Speaker 4: And Kyle Joe Jackson giels coach, I want to come home.
Speaker 4: Give me ten minutes. I was back in DC and
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Speaker 4: Okay, now we got that out of the way, profession
Speaker 4: I'm trying.
Speaker 2: Let's clown on these cowboys now.
Speaker 4: That we got that out of the ways.
Speaker 1: Man, First, I don't even know where to start. What
Speaker 1: is the bigger disappointment? Is it the Cowboys because of
Speaker 1: the expectations, because of how they do this seemingly every year,
Speaker 1: or is it the Eagles after a tend to one start?
Speaker 4: You know what jinks?
Speaker 3: As I sit and watch my TV with just the
Speaker 3: devilish green because I watched the Cowboys fall apart, and
Speaker 3: I watched the demise, I couldn't help with watch Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones sit up there and you know, my big house
Speaker 3: of Dragon fans, and he was up there just following
Speaker 3: the part like the serious targarian ear fell off.
Speaker 4: I tell my I fell out. You know. I was
Speaker 4: watching him, the.
Speaker 3: Look on his face of disgust, the look on his
Speaker 3: face of just.
Speaker 4: Mortally let down and depression.
Speaker 3: I ain't think I should feel so happy to see
Speaker 3: that from a person, but oh my god, it felt
Speaker 3: good as a Washington fan because I tell Dallas fans
Speaker 3: all the time, I got him in my family, y'all,
Speaker 3: gonna play seven more days than we do. Seven more
Speaker 3: day that's it. That's it, seven more days than we played.
Speaker 3: And every time, oh, this is our year. But this
Speaker 3: year it actually looked like it was the year. It
Speaker 3: looked like everything was opening up. They was playing a
Speaker 3: home game, they had a chance to really get this
Speaker 3: thing going. The only herder they had to get over
Speaker 3: was the forty nine ers. Like that's what we felt.
Speaker 3: We felt. I felt afraid. I was like, this team
Speaker 3: could really afraid. I felt, yeah, that this could be
Speaker 3: the time for them. Yeah, But then I said, you
Speaker 3: know what, it's two important things they can't do. They
Speaker 3: cannot run the ball when they need to, and they
Speaker 3: cannot stop the run. That's a recipe for disaster in
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 4: So I knew it was going to happen. I just
Speaker 4: didn't know when.
Speaker 3: And as I sit there and watch this game just unfold,
Speaker 3: its Green Bay the youngest team since nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4: They got beat by some kids. Jordan Love looking like
Speaker 4: the second coming of Breds.
Speaker 2: And he's been greating the second half of the season.
Speaker 3: Two second half of the season, twenty one touchdown, one interception.
Speaker 3: The kid is on one right now. He's feeling it
Speaker 3: very dangerous team. But you know, Dak is my dog
Speaker 3: brother Mississippi State, but Precious Smith is my dog brothers.
Speaker 2: But this is also my brother brother.
Speaker 4: But I pulled for Dak when he's not playing us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 4: Just had a MVP season.
Speaker 2: He didn't, he really didn't.
Speaker 3: And for at the end like that, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is with him, Like him and
Speaker 3: Tony Romo got this thing where the bigger the game,
Speaker 3: something gonna happen and.
Speaker 4: It's just not gonna work out.
Speaker 2: It's killing Jerry. Listen, here's eighty one.
Speaker 1: I understand thought he was gonna have title laughter tie
Speaker 1: laughter title.
Speaker 3: So that Jimmy Johnson, I think when he go back
Speaker 3: and look at everything, he gonna be like, I am
Speaker 3: my own worst and I got in the way of
Speaker 3: something that could have been great for a long time.
Speaker 3: If you keep Jimmy Johnson there, we probably would have
Speaker 3: had to call coach Gibbs out of retirement early. Wait
Speaker 3: before we did. So that's his fault. That's Jerry fault.
Speaker 3: That's the serious targarian's fault. It ain't nobody else but
Speaker 3: he is. And at the end of the day, I
Speaker 3: think that was gonna really burn him up. But then
Speaker 3: it had me assent to myself when a Cowboys gon
Speaker 3: have a better team than they had this year.
Speaker 1: They've won twelve games three straight seasons and been ousted
Speaker 1: the first week every season, or at least have not
Speaker 1: won a conference Star. I believe that's the first time
Speaker 1: that's ever happening.
Speaker 3: Well, they're not good against teams over five hundred, they're
Speaker 3: not good against winning team, but they'll beat up on
Speaker 3: us losers.
Speaker 4: They beat up on us last average forty.
Speaker 2: One points a game at home, whipping up on losing.
Speaker 4: Teams, whipping up on the Texas long Horns. That's what
Speaker 4: they did.
Speaker 3: Right at the end of the day, when you have
Speaker 3: to play somebody that's on your level of mono mono,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Then that's how you judge your team, Like right.
Speaker 3: Now, they took away with they the only two players
Speaker 3: they needed to on the offense, Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4: So now can you run the ball? No, we can't
Speaker 4: run the ball. You cannot win the game.
Speaker 3: So no, As I sit back with a devilish grin,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed every moment of watching the Texans Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3: They won't answer the phone. They so front runner, my
Speaker 3: cousin won't answer the phone. Cedric Donaldson want phone?
Speaker 2: You call people immediately after loss like that?
Speaker 3: No, I am calling them at halftime. I am texting
Speaker 3: them in the third quarter.
Speaker 4: How about them? So hurt man, don't text my phone
Speaker 4: no more. I'm like some so we ain't friend. We
Speaker 4: do this when we lose.
Speaker 3: Like but something that the Cowboy fell, Now, I know
Speaker 3: the NFL was because you know, they got the biggest
Speaker 3: fan base in the world and just be honh. So
Speaker 3: I know the NFL would love for it to be
Speaker 3: Cowboys raves or something, but I'm sorry, it's just not
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Did you see that video of Michael Irvin being interviewed
Speaker 1: about it. We was sitting at a table and he
Speaker 1: starts off calm oh. Then he lost it and then
Speaker 1: he loses it and he's like, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't do it.
Speaker 2: But he was like, you know, you have to go
Speaker 2: out there and you have to you have to know
Speaker 2: the people that came before you.
Speaker 3: Like we knew the people that came before us, and
Speaker 3: we put it on the table and like by the
Speaker 3: end he just walks off and swoh my god, like
Speaker 3: like like losing.
Speaker 4: He couldn't take it.
Speaker 2: He couldn't take it. How much of this do you now?
Speaker 2: It's low hanging through, but how much of this do
Speaker 2: you hold on?
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, let me tell you big, Michael.
Speaker 3: Uh I actually put it on a lit on Jerry
Speaker 3: because he is the facto GM.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Pollard showed you that he could be a
Speaker 3: good change of pace back. You paid him like a starter.
Speaker 3: You ran him like a starter. You should have been
Speaker 3: trading for Derrick Herring. You shouldn't been traded for some
Speaker 3: power aspect you need it. You was missing that. Mike
Speaker 3: can only coach you out there. And I just want
Speaker 3: to be honest. In this generation, Mike has won a
Speaker 3: super Bowl and he's parendally in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Which people forget.
Speaker 3: He did want to know he won a super Bowl
Speaker 3: and he's parenially in the playoffs. But I just think,
Speaker 3: for Mike McCarthy, how many off seasons have we had
Speaker 3: where it's two to three Hall of Fame coaches available?
Speaker 3: Never since I've been like, I ain't seen too many
Speaker 3: coaches of this elk. You got to arguably the best
Speaker 3: coach of all time with Bill Belichick available, Like, so,
Speaker 3: if you want to upgrade from a top tier coach
Speaker 3: to a super top tier coach, this is the year
Speaker 3: to do it, Pete Carroll, So you got another Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer over here that's available to just dangling in
Speaker 3: your face.
Speaker 4: So I can understand what Jerry saying. You know, what
Speaker 4: is it time for me to move on to Mike?
Speaker 3: Because you ask yourself that, But the first question you
Speaker 3: have to ask yourself is to who, right? Who am
Speaker 3: I doing it? If it ain't an upgrade, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing it? Well, guess what Bill Belichick is an upgrade?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Is an upgrade. So I think that makes it scary
Speaker 3: for Mike McCarthy. Also, as I do, as I look
Speaker 3: at this, the time frame of Mike and Bill actually
Speaker 3: lines up together. So he wants a Super Bowl and
Speaker 3: fifteen wins. That's what Bellichick wants. I think it works together.
Speaker 2: What happened to the Eagles?
Speaker 1: I mean they went from a ten to one start
Speaker 1: and then on all of a sudden, they lose to
Speaker 1: the Cards, they lose to the Giants, they lose to
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I think they went one and five down
Speaker 1: the stretch. Yeah, completely fell apart. Part of that was coordinators.
Speaker 1: They lost both through offensive defensive cordat during the off season.
Speaker 1: But they went from a team that looked like they
Speaker 1: were going back to the Super Bowl and just dropped
Speaker 1: off them.
Speaker 4: Now, well, first of all, coaching tells you everything.
Speaker 3: Syrianna great coach, but he lost both of his coordinators
Speaker 3: to head coaching jobs. Both sides of the ball regressed offense,
Speaker 3: regressed defense. I don't think they showed up to play
Speaker 3: any defense this shit.
Speaker 2: They didn't tackle anybody in that bucks.
Speaker 3: Came, they listen, so and they tried to change coordinators
Speaker 3: at the middle of the season on defense. It just
Speaker 3: and let's not forget super Bowl hangover was our real
Speaker 3: just because they started off so fast. We were like, ah,
Speaker 3: they're not having a hangover.
Speaker 4: Yes they are all right.
Speaker 3: So it's a little mixture of everything. But the city
Speaker 3: of Philadelphia don't like excuses. They beat up these money,
Speaker 3: beat up Superman, and they beat up Santa claud So
Speaker 3: they don't really take it easy on anybody. So to say,
Speaker 3: Siriannie job is at risk, I think there was a
Speaker 3: little like doing too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because this guy last year was in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: AU.
Speaker 3: So coaches don't grow on trees, and they should have
Speaker 3: saught it by they offense coordinating their defensive coordinator coming
Speaker 3: up missing and getting upgrading to new jobs. I think
Speaker 3: that's when they should have figured it out right. Coaching
Speaker 3: is very serious, and that's why I love what great coaches.
Speaker 4: Do, especially in the Shanahan tree.
Speaker 3: They do a great job of understanding when their coordinators
Speaker 3: are up for jobs of grooming the next guy so
Speaker 3: they can keep running the same thing. So and I
Speaker 3: think this is where Philadelphia fell short.
Speaker 1: I remember reading that too, particularly on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: that early on the Eagles couldn't get it going because
Speaker 1: the terminology was so different, different, and so everyone on
Speaker 1: the fly, even though they had an off season, was
Speaker 1: still trying to learn everything by hard where they're not
Speaker 1: thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing about it is to learn
Speaker 3: new offenses and defenses is to take a step back.
Speaker 4: People don't understand we had to take a step.
Speaker 3: Back to take a step and learning new stuff is
Speaker 3: like where can I make my plays that because last
Speaker 3: year I knew where I was gonna make my plays
Speaker 3: at because I was comfortable with the defense. Now that
Speaker 3: you got me playing this other defense. It could be
Speaker 3: similar in ways, but the termin knowledge different. So how
Speaker 3: I consume it it's different. And I think that slows
Speaker 3: you down because I always tell people, you think long
Speaker 3: in football, you think wrong in football. That's just the
Speaker 3: way it goes. You need to be more of a
Speaker 3: reactive in football. Like one step to the left. I
Speaker 3: take a step to the right, like not thinking about
Speaker 3: taking that step, just taking it.
Speaker 2: Because if you think for I have second, that have
Speaker 2: second is huge.
Speaker 3: That one tenth of a second, you're beat. And I
Speaker 3: tell people all the time when we're going through plays,
Speaker 3: to y'all is moving at a break next speed. To us,
Speaker 3: it's happening in slow motion, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Let's just say they hiked the ball. I backpedd the
Speaker 3: five steps, the receivers trying to get on me. He
Speaker 3: goes deep as I turn and I looking at the
Speaker 3: coming For that split seconds we are in slow motion.
Speaker 4: Y'all are watching it in real tie right, I.
Speaker 3: Died the ball go pass my hand, he catches it.
Speaker 3: I hit the ground, explosion, crowd. It happened in two seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it, but to us it felt like forever.
Speaker 1: So how much of that is you always hear this
Speaker 1: big going from high school to college, college, pros, the
Speaker 1: speed of the speed of game.
Speaker 2: Do you remember it slowing down for you, particularly when
Speaker 2: you got the pros.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about it is, I think I played
Speaker 3: so much football, Like I.
Speaker 4: Started from my tenth grade year.
Speaker 3: The first time that I even missed the game was
Speaker 3: when I broke my shoulder in Minnesota. So I played
Speaker 3: every snap of my career for the years. So the
Speaker 3: speed I was alreadys ready. That's why college day one started,
Speaker 3: Pros Day one started. I was ready. I just had
Speaker 3: so many reps and I had seen so much football.
Speaker 3: It ain't too much you can show me. A lot
Speaker 3: of guys need time. They need time to adjust to
Speaker 3: the speed I had played in SEC. The speed wasn't
Speaker 3: the problem. It was learning what the NFL is about.
Speaker 4: I looked up on that.
Speaker 3: I had the best teachers you can ask for, Deon Sanders,
Speaker 3: dal Green and Champ Baby.
Speaker 4: I was fine.
Speaker 3: I had a will of knowledge and I had guys
Speaker 3: stay out there with me at practice, working like you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to play, dude. We need you to learn
Speaker 3: how to do this, this, this, and you have to
Speaker 3: do it different than you did it in college. So
Speaker 3: I was blessed with that, But then I feel sorry
Speaker 3: for a guy like many Forbes didn't have that. He
Speaker 3: didn't have what I had, that cushion to help you out.
Speaker 3: He didn't have protectors. Like It's like I always say this,
Speaker 3: if I would have got into a bad situation in
Speaker 3: my rookie year where let's just say I'm over here
Speaker 3: with Randy Moss and Randy is working me, Darren Green
Speaker 3: and Champ would not let that happen. They'd been like, hey,
Speaker 3: you going over there, I mean, go on the other
Speaker 3: side of the right. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take
Speaker 3: him protectors. I had that with Johnny U Banks. I
Speaker 3: leave out a game against Chicago. They storing to throw
Speaker 3: balls at it. I'm hurt. I wasn't out the locker
Speaker 3: room because I'm watching the game. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna let this happen because I know my presence alone,
Speaker 3: they'll stop throwing the ball as much as that. So
Speaker 3: I just think the league teaches you how to treat people,
Speaker 3: and I was more of a protector.
Speaker 2: Hey, those bills, let's talk about the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna pay those bills.
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Speaker 1: Paid Playoff Time YEP Packers Niners Kyle Shanahan said he
Speaker 1: started prepping his team during the second quarter of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Packers Getting ready.
Speaker 3: I saw the back If you saw the game I saw,
Speaker 3: I would have did the same thing sitting that mass
Speaker 3: text chain out fail us.
Speaker 4: Let's get rid of for green Bay. At the end
Speaker 4: of the day, that doesn't shock me.
Speaker 3: Coaches are usually preparing for both teams, so if the
Speaker 3: game would have been tight in the fourth, you would
Speaker 3: have still been preparing for both teams, and I think
Speaker 3: it would have been kind of I think the teams
Speaker 3: are similar in a way, green Bay Packers and the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: so the game plan don't actually change a lot.
Speaker 4: It's the matchups that change.
Speaker 3: And I think when they look at the green Bay Packers,
Speaker 3: they love the matchup with the wide receivers in the
Speaker 3: Coners backs. They do got Jaron Alexander, they got guys,
Speaker 3: They got some dudes. But I think now he's saying,
Speaker 3: how can we do what the Cowboys couldn't do? And
Speaker 3: that's one run the ball? They can Christian McCaffrey aka
Speaker 3: Devid Sanders. Two can they stop the run? Yes they can.
Speaker 3: The law Firm of Warn ain't greenlawt They are not
Speaker 3: to be messed with. So all I'm saying is it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a game, and I forty nine Ers is
Speaker 3: actually who I picked to go to the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: from the NFC, so my picks are still alive.
Speaker 4: I got forty nine ers in the NFC.
Speaker 3: I got the Ravens our Cousins down the boulevard in the.
Speaker 4: AFC, And I think these teams mimic each other.
Speaker 3: Both run the ball, both hard and knows, both great quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: both great defenses, special team justin Tucker.
Speaker 4: They all got it all.
Speaker 3: So to see this brawl again, and I know the
Speaker 3: Ravens got the best of them, but at a neutral
Speaker 3: site it becomes something else. And the second time with
Speaker 3: a Shanahan is a different.
Speaker 1: Thing elsewhere in the NFC, Lion toaching the Bucks. Did
Speaker 1: you see the reporter who asked Todd Bowles how he
Speaker 1: was getting his team ready to play in the elements
Speaker 1: in Detroit even though they play indoors.
Speaker 3: There's no elements in Detroit there or not now, Detroit
Speaker 3: looks like Gotham City when you're laying that's the only
Speaker 3: element you gotta worry about. But other than that, come on, dude, like,
Speaker 3: come on, reporter, do your whole word.
Speaker 2: It happens to the best of us.
Speaker 1: But even that one is pretty far out there. As
Speaker 1: an athlete, I could ask you though you've been asked
Speaker 1: a million questions. Yes, do you remember a question or
Speaker 1: two where you were like, come on, don't ask me that,
Speaker 1: or that's not a smartes so hard, like listen all
Speaker 1: questions reporters asked a dumb after.
Speaker 3: Games because especially when you lose, because when you win,
Speaker 3: they want to ask you glorified questions. But it's nothing
Speaker 3: like be there, just fresh out the shower, ship the
Speaker 3: mic in your face. So fred y'all lost twenty three
Speaker 3: to twenty in the last catch by Randy on you,
Speaker 3: it's the.
Speaker 4: Reason what happened.
Speaker 3: Then you just watch what I watched right then you
Speaker 3: just watch me dive, get beat and lose the game.
Speaker 3: Now what you really want me to do right now
Speaker 3: is lose it. That's why you put the mic in
Speaker 3: my face. That's why you ask me a question when
Speaker 3: you know I'm mad, not just at my performance, mad
Speaker 3: in myself that I let my team down.
Speaker 4: And then people be shocked like I can't believe he
Speaker 4: exploded like that. How unprofessional is this?
Speaker 3: God, dude, if I showed up to your job, why
Speaker 3: you changing that moti out that that truck and I'd.
Speaker 4: Be like, look at him, look at him. Is he
Speaker 4: screwed that boat?
Speaker 3: They're so loose right there, this guy, this is not
Speaker 3: gonna work, Like people don't understand the emotion, and people
Speaker 3: watching you do your job and watching you fail, and
Speaker 3: then not only watching you fail, but sticking to mic
Speaker 3: in your face and say why did you fail? Why
Speaker 3: did I fail? Because he get paid to right? Why
Speaker 3: did I fail? Because it just wasn't my day. You
Speaker 3: ain't ask me this last week when I had two interceptions, right,
Speaker 3: So it's such an emotional turn.
Speaker 4: And I've always thought.
Speaker 3: The questions are redundant because nobody's ever coming up with
Speaker 3: new questions.
Speaker 1: Is it never coming to a very I will say,
Speaker 1: being on the other side to come up with a
Speaker 1: way to ask a question that a doesn't piss off somebody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially after lost, Like how can I phrase this and
Speaker 1: also ask something that's a little bit different then.
Speaker 4: What they asked? It's difficult.
Speaker 3: So so I myself prepared myself for these three questions.
Speaker 4: This is only three or four questions you can ask us,
Speaker 4: like is he the good? Is he the bad?
Speaker 3: And I just you know, I mean a nunch line
Speaker 3: at a time, I'm sarcastic. That was my way to
Speaker 3: fight it, and it was my way to protect me
Speaker 3: from Fred Smooth, Like, do not let your emotions get
Speaker 3: the best of you, because it's another week of football
Speaker 3: to be playing next week. I can't lose my cool
Speaker 3: right here. But I'm telling you we almost we be hot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we be hot when y'all asked us right after you
Speaker 3: realize we ain't even had time to like again, not
Speaker 3: only do you stick this mike in my face and
Speaker 3: ask me these redundant questions. I leave there, go home,
Speaker 3: go to the grocery store, and not sister Prairily asking
Speaker 3: me in the vestable section what happened today. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you something, Sister Praily, I don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about it no more, so you never leave from it.
Speaker 3: And then I lead a grocery store and go home,
Speaker 3: turn the TV on.
Speaker 4: Me getting beat again, me getting beat again.
Speaker 3: So I can't even escape it from my house, only
Speaker 3: to get up and come to work the next day
Speaker 3: and have to watch the film of me.
Speaker 4: Getting beat again.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is you have to be mentally
Speaker 3: tough to play pro sports. You have to be truly
Speaker 3: mentally tough, especially now that people that didn't even like
Speaker 3: sports is getting into it, Like, man, you just really
Speaker 3: blew it from my fantasy football team.
Speaker 4: I don't care about your fantasy football team.
Speaker 3: So it's just so many reasons it's different. And I
Speaker 3: can only wonder because Twitter was just getting there when
Speaker 3: I was playing. Yeah, but I can only wonder as
Speaker 3: a cornerback looking up your Twitter traade. Oh, thousands of
Speaker 3: people telling.
Speaker 4: You you trash. That's why I tell them. Players don't
Speaker 4: consume that.
Speaker 3: And plus don't care about somebody that's not skilled enough
Speaker 3: to play do your job telling you you stink them
Speaker 3: couch coaches does nothing.
Speaker 2: People look through that. What was this last year?
Speaker 1: I was critiquing Trey Young on the air from the
Speaker 1: Hawks right now, Tree Young doesn't follow me, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I guess he's searched his feed and I will.
Speaker 1: And I talked about, how, look, you never know what
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna do, right, He could go ice.
Speaker 2: Cold, he could go off.
Speaker 4: You never know, he could turn this up.
Speaker 1: He could And I woke the next morning, is like,
Speaker 1: Trey Young likes your tweet, but it was me criticizing him.
Speaker 2: He thought, oh, he was just searching for his name.
Speaker 2: You know, he saw that he read that and some
Speaker 2: guys use that as motivation.
Speaker 4: Yes, some guys do, but some guys being to it
Speaker 4: let him into a wheel.
Speaker 2: Last game, I want to ask me.
Speaker 1: I know you like the Ravens obviously, but Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Bills is interesting.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's finally even ground.
Speaker 2: Because finally Buffalo gets it in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: It's finally even ground with Josh Allen and my guy
Speaker 3: Patty Mahomes. Now, don't you know this Patty Holmes first
Speaker 3: roll game ever playoff?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: He's never played a road playoff game beside the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I'm going with the Bills, But come on, Cases City
Speaker 3: just won a game and tim below the weather.
Speaker 2: But also the Dolphins are garbage in the cold.
Speaker 3: First of all, you can't take a board band add
Speaker 3: article he First of all, Miami is.
Speaker 4: Warm weather. Breakdancers. I read.
Speaker 2: I read before that Chiefs game.
Speaker 3: They were zero to ten in games below for dere
Speaker 3: yes below forty because they break dancers. You got speed, guys,
Speaker 3: They are legitly for next team for next teams. Don't
Speaker 3: do good with physical teams, and they do don't know
Speaker 3: good in bad weather. You knew what you're gonna think
Speaker 3: about it. You're a man of the urban sit sprawl,
Speaker 3: you know the city. You don't see people break dancing.
Speaker 4: In the snow. You don't. It just doesn't.
Speaker 3: So you knew Miami didn't have a chance. But these
Speaker 3: are two cold weather teams. These are two teams with
Speaker 3: two dynamic quarterbacks, two good defenses. It's gonna be I
Speaker 3: think it'll be the best game of the weekend to me,
Speaker 3: besides the nine or Green Bay game. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be better than people think. But I think the
Speaker 3: Marquee game, Patty Mahomes, Josh Ally who.
Speaker 2: Bills, I'm going Bills.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is their time and also more
Speaker 1: than that, it's not so much of the Bills are
Speaker 1: now remember for the season, Bill's one of the favorites.
Speaker 2: When the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But also I just feel like this Chiefs team, for
Speaker 1: the first time at a long time, is actually vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Homes just more just isn't so.
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't know, man, you know, I know the
Speaker 4: swift is gonna come out.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been as good as in previous years.
Speaker 3: Kelsey has not been himself and maybe putting too much
Speaker 3: pressure on itself since you know, let me try.
Speaker 4: Can we all want to show out in front of Oh.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, wants yeah, but something's off. Something's off right now,
Speaker 3: you're right with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 4: But I just never doubted them during this time of
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: I never doubted Andy Reid team during this time.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if you're looking at the best
Speaker 1: head coach quarterback combination in the league.
Speaker 3: Can't see it's it? Can and just why I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't doubt him. I can't doubt there.
Speaker 1: The Bills have something to prove. This is their time,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna do it. Now is the time because
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are a little bit weakened.
Speaker 4: What happens if the Bills win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there're gonna be so many tables set
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 3: Listen, hey, First of all, who would you rather get
Speaker 3: their first Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: Okay, the Detroit Lions, the Bills, Bill's Mafia.
Speaker 2: Bill's mafia, man, mafia. I'm going Bill's mafia. You're on Lions.
Speaker 3: I'm going lion for the city of Detroit. Now, that's
Speaker 3: what I do for the city of Detroit.
Speaker 4: And it ain't like they've even been to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: like at least Buffalo got three in a row. All right,
Speaker 4: that went there.
Speaker 2: Right, they went there.
Speaker 4: At least they had something to say. You know what,
Speaker 4: we are here.
Speaker 3: Detroit ain't never had nothing. You know what a super
Speaker 3: Bowl in Detroit. That's an extra billion dollars of revenue. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you rebuilding this. Listen, I'm going for the never elvers
Speaker 3: have I Okay, I'm going Detroit Line.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough space and bills. And then I got
Speaker 2: a couple questions.
Speaker 4: You ask for your rapp all right, all right, all right,
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Speaker 1: can't fan. So you saw the weather in Kansas City. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw the weather in Buffalo. That's snow in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: That game had to be postponed for like almost twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Hours or something.
Speaker 3: But that ain't bad. Listen to me, I learned from
Speaker 3: my time in Minnesota. I was gonna ask you my
Speaker 3: time in the South Pole that that snow means it's warm.
Speaker 3: Even animals think like that. I know, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: All right, to snow, it has to be high twenties thirties.
Speaker 3: Once it stopped snowing, and it cannot precipitate anymore.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're in trouble. Notice Kansas City, what no snow?
Speaker 4: They were in trouble.
Speaker 3: That's why what you're saying, that's why it was like
Speaker 3: two degrees there. Now the snow turns to ice. It's
Speaker 3: no longer south. It's no longer than any day. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard of black ice, but
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: Black ice is no joke. I had a rect on
Speaker 2: black ice one.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what it was until I moved
Speaker 3: to Minnesota, and then everybody was like, watch out for
Speaker 3: that black ice.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't hit the black ice. It slid
Speaker 4: to Wisconsin. Listen to me.
Speaker 3: It's hard to breathe when it gets fifteen ten Buffalo,
Speaker 3: it was still snowing twenties. I see snow. I see
Speaker 3: where the clouds. Don't even want to cry snow.
Speaker 4: No more.
Speaker 3: You're in trouble because now it's all about the wheelchair,
Speaker 3: the wind chill factor. You see why they said it
Speaker 3: and can't see it felt.
Speaker 4: Like nigga can't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even fathom, Like jinx, I've been in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Tried to laugh in the hudder, started bleeding because my
Speaker 3: lips just cracking.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: The worst thing could ever happen is a teammate of
Speaker 3: somebody step on your toe.
Speaker 1: You told me that story, but didn't you say, like
Speaker 1: this specific story, But didn't you say that like your
Speaker 1: toades would just pop.
Speaker 3: They just bust like all right, God listen, they just
Speaker 3: step on and then it'll be your teammate or somebody.
Speaker 4: Just step on it with they cleek and you just
Speaker 4: hear it. You hear it.
Speaker 3: But luckily it's so cold that it's no. You don't
Speaker 3: feel now, you don't feel anything but the shower. Oh,
Speaker 3: I mean they're crying.
Speaker 4: I'm about to that because the shower doing two things.
Speaker 3: It's throwing you out. So we're gonna stay like extra long.
Speaker 3: But every bruise but it's like blood like. And then
Speaker 3: then while y'all don't see us bleed much doing the
Speaker 3: really really cold because the weather is stopping you from bleeding,
Speaker 3: your body won't even like it's it's it's a very
Speaker 3: paralyzing feel to it. Like I told you, I was
Speaker 3: making career decisions one day out here, I was in
Speaker 3: Green Bay.
Speaker 4: Like you know what, Fred, you could have been anything
Speaker 4: you want, to be a.
Speaker 3: Lawyer, doctor, change the world, but you chose to be
Speaker 3: out here in two degrees and tights for entertainment all
Speaker 3: I'm saying is cold, some cold weather it is not
Speaker 3: meant to be in all right. That's why you never
Speaker 3: see Fred smooth clown man ever. You'll see never see.
Speaker 4: Me doing any of that ski down the mountain. No,
Speaker 4: who's volunteer.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be inside by the fire having a drink.
Speaker 4: Waiting on you to come down off skiing out the mountain.
Speaker 2: I'd been like, Smooth, I'm coming.
Speaker 4: I got some coke, coke for you right in here.
Speaker 3: All it's just it's it's very and you don't know
Speaker 3: everything you hurt till like the next day. Oh, you
Speaker 3: don't know, like the pain, your bones are bone chilling cold.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's very hard. And then you have to
Speaker 3: be a maniac to go out there and play in it.
Speaker 3: And most guys in the NFL a maniacs.
Speaker 1: Before we go, I didn't want to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the goat, Nick saban Nikoli, you're an sec guy.
Speaker 1: If you love college football at all, everyone has a
Speaker 1: thought on the greatest of all time.
Speaker 3: Stepping away, first of all, thank you, Nick, Yeah, thank
Speaker 3: you for everything you did with college football. I enjoyed
Speaker 3: my sparring with you as I lost to you against
Speaker 3: while he was coaching LSU. He was the only LSU
Speaker 3: coach to beat me. All right, as I restored Mississippi
Speaker 3: State's greatness, the things you've done in SEC unbelievable won't
Speaker 3: be matched. Thank you for your time, but also thank
Speaker 3: you for leaving. Now it's time for Misippi State to
Speaker 3: step back up. You have ran the SEC for too long,
Speaker 3: and I understand why you left.
Speaker 4: Coach. The NIL took away the.
Speaker 3: One side advantage of recruiting that Alabama had. It made
Speaker 3: it equal for the first time, and that was gonna
Speaker 3: make it hard for you. And I understand that the
Speaker 3: transfer porter has made college football basically nothing. All right,
Speaker 3: So I understand you don't want to deal with the
Speaker 3: right news ship, but thank you for leaving. But I
Speaker 3: also thank you for what you're done, because to me,
Speaker 3: the greatest head coaching you know, I'm a jacket Sheryl disciple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. All he talked about was Baron Bryant.
Speaker 3: Well, I got one that's better than bred Bryant, and
Speaker 3: there's one, Nick Saban.
Speaker 4: Thank you, coach.
Speaker 1: Especially in today's day and age, winning at that rate
Speaker 1: is unbelieved.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable, and this is why I love you.
Speaker 3: Always hear Alabama players talk about how much they love him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so he helped them become a man. And then what
Speaker 3: Jackie Scherer did for me. He taught me how to
Speaker 3: be a professional and how to be a man. And
Speaker 3: I think most people don't understand because when they hear coach,
Speaker 3: they just think about x's and those actually coaches, our
Speaker 3: surrogate fathers. That's what Coach Gibbs is for me, you know.
Speaker 3: So I think Coach Saban did a good job of
Speaker 3: raising those kids.
Speaker 2: One of the greates, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Most that's smoot.
Speaker 2: I'm James, That's gonna do it.
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