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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff fretting out podcast.

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Speaker 1: That'd be me. That's the show. Welcome to super Bowl Hangover.

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Speaker 1: Not really didn't drink, but for anyone that's a Chiefs fan,

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Speaker 1: probably a little hungover mentally, if not physically. And uh

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Speaker 1: on this beautiful Monday. No more football until the fall.

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Speaker 1: Well we got a lot of football luckily, off season,

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Speaker 1: free agency, the draft, we can stay busy, but no

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Speaker 1: more actual games. Tom Brady super Bowl champ. You know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into several angles of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: thoughts I had coming out of that game. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: market is something that's clearly taken shape. At a time

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Speaker 1: of recording this, Carson Wentz still is on the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: but that looks like it's gonna change soon. Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, you, Derek Card, a lot of names potentially moving.

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Speaker 1: Have some have some thoughts regarding the quarterback market. If

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Speaker 1: Greatly appreciate it. Okay, let's dive into a man named

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Speaker 1: Thomas Brady from Sarah High School. You know, about thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes from where I'm sitting. He just won his seventh

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and really a little icing on the cake

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Speaker 1: right leaves New England goes to the box. A team

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Speaker 1: that hadn't made the playoffs in twelve years wins a ring,

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Speaker 1: wins a ring three straight road playoff games in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Washington's see uh Drew Brees last game audios. I'll see

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame when I'm ready to retire.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers first NFC championship at Lambeau. I win, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: we work here, Tom Brady, Super Bowl champion, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if you would have made a movie

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Speaker 1: win a game, win the Super Bowl. Probably not. It's

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Speaker 1: an incredible accomplishment, there's not much to be said. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna go down. I mean he's I don't know, Tiger

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Speaker 1: of the Internet age, I don't know if he'll ever

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Speaker 1: be matched, at least in my lifetime. But there is

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Speaker 1: an element and listen, Tom Brady has dedicated his entire

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Speaker 1: life to football. I say it all the time. He

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Speaker 1: I mean really good. I mean he's close to his wife,

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Speaker 1: on point, with Giselle career, all of his chips are

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Speaker 1: it can be his worst enemy. Right, he takes some

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Speaker 1: bad hits because he's keeping plays alive, like Tom doesn't

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Speaker 1: play like that. Now Tom can't. Tom can't move like

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Speaker 1: you can. But the one thing that was very very

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Speaker 1: clear in the Super Bowl, for a guy that was

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Speaker 1: running for his life, every single play had multiple defensive

429
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: alignment coming after. It was crazy. I mean it was insane.

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Speaker 1: Him doing three sixties run away from defensive tackles and

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00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: defensive lineman shedding guys as he's throwing. His toughness is elite.

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Speaker 1: I feel better about Patrick Mahomes after that game. We

433
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Speaker 1: already know he's great, we already know he can dominate.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got to stay healthy and there's got to

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Speaker 1: be a balance of living to fight another play and

436
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: keeping plays alive. And it's hard. It's probably the downfall

437
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: ultimately of mobile quarterbacks is this is a just end

438
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Speaker 1: up taking hits. I do think the next iteration for

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00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes is kind of what Rogers had to learn into

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00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: his mid thirties. But Mahomes, because they're paying him so

441
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: much money, they're so dependent on him, and let's face it,

442
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: he's been banged up the last two years. He had

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00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: a neediest location last year he had a foot deal

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00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: this year, just running around that. We gotta we gotta

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Speaker 1: strike a balance. I do not want you to play

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Speaker 1: like Manning or Brady, because you bring something the table,

447
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: rolling out and keeping plays alive. But I also need

448
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Speaker 1: to find a meet a middle ground where when the

449
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: play is not there to be made. You almost got

450
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Speaker 1: to throw up a white flag because I've invested in you.

451
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Speaker 1: If I'm Clark Connor, I'm Andy Reid, or I'm Brett

452
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: Beach for really this next decade, you pay all of

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Speaker 1: our salaries. You are carrying this franchise. Your health. Our

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Speaker 1: success depends on your health, and no one questions anything

455
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: about what you bring to the table. Your talent, unparalleled,

456
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Speaker 1: right unquestioned, is elite. My mom could figure that out.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to be Parcels or Bill Walsh to

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Speaker 1: go God. This guy is a transcendent talent. We get that.

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Speaker 1: Everyone understands that. The intangible stuff we're all learning. I mean,

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00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: I I knew this because I know people there. You're

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Speaker 1: hearing this through me or any story you read. His

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Speaker 1: intangible stuff es special. His toughness. No one has to

463
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Speaker 1: even question that, and that's something I think sometimes it

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Speaker 1: takes a little while to learn about a quarterback. We're

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Speaker 1: already three years into his starting career. Toughness is elite.

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Speaker 1: If I was like a baseball scout, I'd put a

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Speaker 1: plus next to it. Now, we need to find a balance.

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Speaker 1: We need you on the field and we need you

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Speaker 1: to be alive. Yesterday nothing he could have done about that.

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Speaker 1: I found myself respecting him more, doing everything humanly possible.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times you find this out

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Speaker 1: about an athlete. I remember someone told me this when

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Speaker 1: you're scouting. The best time to scout a player, especially

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Speaker 1: if they're on a bad team, and this isn't the

475
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: case with the Homes obviously, is watch the tape in

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Speaker 1: the second half of blowouts. Are they going through the motions?

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Speaker 1: Are they still playing their ass off? It was one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that coach read I remember love Nick Foles.

479
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Speaker 1: He was on a terrible Arizona team, but like he

480
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: played his ass off till the last whistle. He was

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Speaker 1: just trying to make play after play until the game ended.

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Speaker 1: And it is a characteristic you want in a player, win, loser, draw.

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Speaker 1: I give you everything I have until the final whistle

484
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Speaker 1: is blown. I think we all learned that right at

485
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Speaker 1: some point in our time in our life when we're young,

486
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Speaker 1: our first the first team we're on. Our parents teach

487
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: us when we like hate playing little League and we

488
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: want to quit and you're told you are not allowed

489
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Speaker 1: to quit. You have to see things through. And I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes that gets under talked about with professional athletes

491
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, of course they try hard. No

492
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: they don't. Not everyone does. Some guys. You know, one

493
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Speaker 1: term I learned when I was in the NFL with

494
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: some guys are front runners. When things are going well,

495
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: it's easy to be excited, right if like, think about

496
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: your businesses when business is good, like everyone's kind of

497
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: coming in chest pumped out, getting those bonuses, new cars

498
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: in the parking lot, sweet vacations. What about where our

499
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: session hits and your company has to lay off the

500
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: people and everyone's holding on for dear life? Does the guy?

501
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Is everyone acting the same? And with a quarterback, you

502
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: know there is a balance that you need to have.

503
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes like gives the effort in that game. Obviously you

504
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: know it's a little bigger of a game. But if

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Speaker 1: you watched him play Week seven against some random team,

506
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: he's giving you the same effort. I actually think that's

507
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: what he has a lot in common with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: You gotta drag them off the field. They will not

509
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: quit no matter how shitty it was. They were getting

510
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: their ass kicked in the second half of that game,

511
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely destroyed. It was thirty one to ten

512
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and Mahomes was playing every play

513
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: like he was trying to score a touchdown. You gotta

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Speaker 1: respect it, You just do because some guys we've seen

515
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: it will just be like um over it. It crossed

516
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: my mind, like do they put in Chad Hanny. I

517
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: would imagine if coach re tried to put in chat

518
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Hanny Patrick Mahomes would not be happy about it. And

519
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: we know he's gonna need surgery on the foot he was.

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00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: Even Tony Romo mentioned he was limping around. I I

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00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: just think that moving forward, you questioned nothing about the

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Speaker 1: guy and that was a unique circumstances where a bunch

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Speaker 1: of injuries happened with offensive lineman and you were playing

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Speaker 1: with kind of scrubs, right. I think they had a

525
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: third round offensive lineman, if I remember correctly, they drafted

526
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: from TCU who opted out at the beginning of the season,

527
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: so like that, they just they were in a position

528
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: they were kind of screwed. But I didn't see Mahomes moping.

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00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see him putting his head down. I mean,

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00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: he's getting peppered. I haven't seen the ratings, but hundred

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Speaker 1: million people watch Super Bowl however, plus streaming, plus you

532
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: know obviously the apps and the highlights. I mean the

533
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: amount of people that watched that game, and and bits

534
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: and pieces and highlights of that game. It's historic every year,

535
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: and he carried himself like a champion. I I have

536
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: the utmost respect for him moving forward and listen, as

537
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: long as you got that guy and the Chiefs understand,

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00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: like invest in the lines offensive and defensive, they're gonna

539
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: be fine. They're going to be an absolute powerhouse because

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Speaker 1: he can carry you. And only so many teams on

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: a given year have that level of a front four,

542
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: and they don't always make it to the Super Bowl.

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00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes a team that is the best matchup for another

544
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: team never sees that team in the playoffs or the

545
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right they get bounced in the second round

546
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: and the other team it is a game. They say,

547
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: styles make fights. I think a lot of times in football,

548
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Speaker 1: and Brady has been on the other end of that,

549
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: right when the two Giants teams that beat him just

550
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: were incredible matchups for them. The front really pushed around

551
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: his offensive line. He was kind of on the other

552
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Speaker 1: end of that. This was I wouldn't call the Chiefs

553
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Speaker 1: quite the oh seven Patriots, because I think they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they were in terms of firepower, in

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Speaker 1: terms of success, like they were a loaded team defending champs,

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Speaker 1: and they ran into the equivalent of like the oh

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Speaker 1: seven O eight Giants. That's what the the Tampa Bay

558
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: Bucks just did to him. And I just think Mahomes

559
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: carried himself till the final whistle like a guy that

560
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Speaker 1: thought he could win, even though it cleared to all

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00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: of us sitting on our couch there was no chance. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the quarterback market. And I like relating

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Speaker 1: the quarterback market to the real estate market because I

564
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: do think there are a lot of parallels. When you

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Speaker 1: find the right house, you can stay there for a

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Speaker 1: long time. Usually the real estate market, depending on how

567
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: big the house is, can be kind of expensive, but

568
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: tends to be a pretty good investment over the history

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00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: of time. Now, some you know, housing markets in different

570
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: areas can be devastating when the economy turns. Just like

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks that you invest a lot in Jared Goffin,

572
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz cannot reap great rewards, right, And I think

573
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: we found out this weekend Carson Wentz like in Philly,

574
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Speaker 1: it's over, He's going to get traded. Then we have

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Speaker 1: a ton of other names, Deshaun Watson. What's gonna happen

576
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Speaker 1: to him? Is Derek Carr gonna be traded? Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: You start getting is Mariota gonna get down? You just

578
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: start going through like it's gonna be pretty crazy. And

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Speaker 1: with the real estate analogy, I like, I think about

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00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: it all the time. I'm not gonna say in the

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Speaker 1: barrier much longer is that six months is out? A

582
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: year is at two? I don't know. But my head

583
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: is already kind of moving because it doesn't pencil for

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Speaker 1: me to stay here. It's all it's always on my mind. Now.

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00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean like I don't have the money to

586
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: go exactly where I want to go yet, but like

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: whether it's Scottsdale, whether it's Vegas wherever, something that's more

588
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: conducive to my business. The pencils. It doesn't pencil for

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00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: me to buy a house in the Bay Area for

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Speaker 1: quadruple what it would cost for me to go somewhere else.

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00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: My taxes would be lower, easy for me to expand

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: my business. It's just cheaper. It just makes more sense. Right,

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00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: But if I was at a certain point in my life,

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: I might not worry about that, Like certain teams with

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00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks don't necessarily worry about the price. Right. The

596
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: guy is so good, Aaron Rodgers, who gives a ship.

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00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: It's why they're saying, like, we're not trading him. We

598
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: don't care if he costs thirty forty million dollars. He's

599
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: staying a lot of super rich people around me. They're like,

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: I listen, California, it sucks paying all these taxes, but

601
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I make so much money. I don't even care for me.

602
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like I can make way more, would be more

603
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: business conducive to go somewhere else. And I think when

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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: you look at the real estate market, right, you got

605
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: to know how much money you have, how much wherever

606
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna go, how much it costs to live there,

607
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: given what you want, and then you can figure it out, now,

608
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: are you willing to overpay? I had a wise man

609
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: tell me a long time ago. Then. I think a

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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of people overthink buying a home. You spend so

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: much time there, especially like in my job, right, I

612
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: would be there a lot. I have a home office,

613
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: could do everything I need to do. So if you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: do I want to spend extra a couple hundred thousand

615
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: to get the space, Well, that's your home. It's literally

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Speaker 1: where you live. So I think people worry about that.

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Speaker 1: It's why I think with the quarterback situation, like, should

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00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: we trade this extra you know, first round pick for

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Well, if you want a sweet quarterback, yeah

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Speaker 1: you probably should. So let's look at the quarterback market.

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Speaker 1: Because Deshaun Watson, to me, clearly the Texans don't want

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00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: to trade him, but the organization is a joke. Every

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00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: video that gets goes viral or guts on social media

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00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: about Jack Easterby makes me have Deshaun Watson's back even more.

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00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: I would also want to get away from that guy.

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00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: So I'm in complete support of Deshaun Watson. Here's the problem.

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is the equivalent of a mansion. If you

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00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: want to move into the mansion, you gotta have two things.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a shipload of money because mansions are expensive.

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Speaker 1: I you gotta trade a ton of picks for Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: And then part of the thing you realize, like, hell,

632
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: in my conduct, I got a big tax bill every year.

633
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Speaker 1: And all my homeowners, condo owners, real estate investors, you

634
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: guys know the property taxes. You're like, yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: own a home. Now, well, actually you get a seven, eight, ten, fifteen,

636
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Speaker 1: however much you know, depending on what you pay for it.

637
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: You get this tax bill. You gotta pay for that.

638
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: So you buy a Deshaun Watson ten million dollar home,

639
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: your property tax bill is massive. Deshaun makes a ton

640
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of money. He's expensive, so it's a double whammy. You

641
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: gotta pay a time to get him, and then he's

642
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: just cost a lot of money because he's not a

643
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: big contract. But the mansion sweet guaranteed to like your home.

644
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna like your quarterback, So I wouldn't be opposed

645
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: to doing it if I'm a certain team. To me,

646
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: it's the easiest to justify because you're like, the thing

647
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: is like, not everyone has the money right to buy

648
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: a mansion. Every team has first round draft picks. You

649
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: just have to decide whether you're willing to pay him

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: right rather to give him for Sean, assuming that they're

651
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna make him available, which I talked to someone in

652
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: the league. I think Deshan needs to make it a

653
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: little uglier. You need to tell them verbatim, I am

654
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: never playing another snap for you. I can't stand this franchise.

655
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I can't stand Jack Easterby. I want to leave here.

656
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: You gotta make it ugly. James Harden did it. It's

657
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: it's a little harder in football, but we've seen it work.

658
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey did it. Kalil mac did it. You gotta

659
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: dry a hard line in the sand, and then it

660
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: helps the team's bidding on you to understand, like this

661
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: guy means business. He's available, so that to me would

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Speaker 1: be my recom for de Shawn Watson. He's the mansion.

663
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Then you have Carson Wentz, who is a very very

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Speaker 1: expensive fixer upper right because one he's the Eagles are

665
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: not giving him away. Reports this weekend they wanted two

666
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: ones and a two. I don't think they're gonna get that,

667
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: but they're still gonna get I would imagine like a

668
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: one in a two'd like Middlecoff. Did you watch him play?

669
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: I did. He was terrible. He was arguably the worst

670
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: court starting quarterback in the league. But he's six ft five.

671
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: He has immense talent and we've seen it before. Now

672
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: he's got issues. Does he get along with his teammates?

673
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Why does the organization like him? I

674
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: don't know. There are some red flags on the guy.

675
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: But this is a talent business. Now at quarterback, it's

676
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: about more than talent. I talked about that all the time.

677
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: But his talent is so you know, he just has

678
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: His physical gifts are so elite that I think people

679
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: will look past that and you have to dig in.

680
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: I have to call all his former coaches. I'd have

681
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: to really look around and try to really get to

682
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 1: the bottom of why don't what's up with this guy

683
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: beside the poor play? Because ultimately, if I'm a team

684
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: willing to trade for him, my coach is making eight

685
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: to ten million dollars. Cities egos big enough. He thinks

686
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: he can fix them up right now. Like Deshaun Watson,

687
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: once you get him, he's expensive. He makes a lot

688
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: of money. So it was, you know, the equivalent of

689
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: the property taxes. He ain't cheap. Now, Deshaun Watson is

690
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: not cheap either, but his house is sweet. Ready to

691
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: move in, Carson Wentz, you know, you need to subcontract

692
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: some work. We need to knock down some walls. We

693
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: need to expand the kitchen. Might need to add a

694
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: pool in the backyard. Watson's house comes with it all,

695
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: bad ass, driving, range, movie theater, ten car garage, got

696
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: it all. Carson got some problems. But here's the thing

697
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: with Carson. If you invest correctly in this fixer upper,

698
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: his return on investment here could be great because if

699
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: you trade a one and a two, and trust me,

700
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: the moment someone does trade a one and two, let's

701
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: say the Bears are the Colts, people like, oh my god,

702
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe they paid that much for Carson Wentz.

703
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Like I said with the house, you can't overpay for

704
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: a house if once you're in it, you like it.

705
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: If you get Carson Wentz and he becomes a good

706
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: player and he becomes a Pro Bowl level player, that's

707
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: stealing because he's under contract and clearly he has the

708
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: talent to be a Pro Bowl player. So if you

709
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: can get that out of him, if you have that

710
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: vision and you can figure out the off the field stuff,

711
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: like what's his deal off the field? Like, is he

712
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: is he mentally soft? Can he not handle getting coaching?

713
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: Because we're blowing Brady Brady's You could argue one of

714
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: his greatest attributes is he loves to get coached. He

715
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: loves to get screamed at, he loves to be held

716
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: the high standards. He lives for that. Carson feels like

717
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: the opposite. It's always someone else's fault. It's never on me,

718
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Like Carson, this is the this is the NFL, is

719
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: the big leagues. Now I lived in Philly. That's a

720
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: crazy play. It's really really intense. I do think the

721
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: market for Carson could be really beneficial. Now you can say, well,

722
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: John maybe if he if he's mentally soft, that might

723
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: not change. But it's a little easier to be mentally soft,

724
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: probably in Indianapolis more than Philly or Boston. Right, those

725
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: places will eat you alive. Remember when Adrian Gonzalez they

726
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: signed the Red Sox signed him and he hated it

727
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: and it was just like God, he wanted out, Like

728
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: not everyone can handle the Boston Red Sox. I saw

729
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: it with Kung Fu Panda. He went there, he completely failed.

730
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: He just ate him alive and he came back to

731
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: the Giants and he was good. Adrian Gonzalaz got traded

732
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: back to the Dodgers. I guess he was never on

733
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. On the Padres came to the Dodgers and

734
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: he was excellent. For some guys just thrive in different environments.

735
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady could play in any environment. You could

736
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: have been the bare You put him in Texas, you

737
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: can put him in Florida, you can put him in

738
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: New England. Any type fans, he's gonna kick the ship

739
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: out of people. Peyton Manning, same deal, right that they

740
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: can thrive. Michael Jordan's doesn't matter. Most guys, you know

741
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: a little dependent. Like why would Russell Wilson be Like

742
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: if he was in New York, would it look exactly

743
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: the same. Like Seattle's pretty easy market to be in. Hell,

744
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: the Bay Area is really easy market to be in.

745
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: It it really is. It's not as intense, even though

746
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: football is like really big here. Just Arizona, same deal,

747
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: It's just not as big a deal. Go go to

748
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: New York you go to Philly, even even like Chicago,

749
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: I think could be a little tough. You know, it's

750
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: not easy. So to me the market where Carson goes,

751
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: but his the potential for an r O. I on

752
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: that guy to flip his career around and be an

753
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: excellent player to me as high. I think Donald's a

754
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: fascinating one. I think Donald's one of those got one

755
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: of those like homes, if we're gonna stick with the

756
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: home analogy. And I've never had a lot of money

757
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: after a recession, but like back in O eight o nine, everyone,

758
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: like the people that had some cash, they went bargain hunting.

759
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: You could find, you know, homes that were being short

760
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: sailed for just so dirt cheap, and then over the

761
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: next five six years, depend on the market, you double

762
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: triple the house. And Darnt would it's fascinating about Donald

763
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: is you're not sure he's any good. His stats, to

764
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: be real, are pretty terrible. He's not a sixty pass

765
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: or in three years. He basically has a one to

766
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: one touchdown to interception ratio. And if I wanted to

767
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: argue for Donald lead go well, the Jets disaster gaze

768
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: talent around him sucked. There are arguments on both sides.

769
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: To me, if you can buy low, like, I'm not

770
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: into pain a lot for Donald Donald? To me, is

771
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: can I get him for like a third round pick? Now?

772
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Schefter told me on my other podcast that he thought

773
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: he was going for four first I don't know if

774
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: that's necessarily true. I wouldn't. I couldn't trade a first

775
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: round pick for him. Could I give like two threes?

776
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: Because I give two threes, then I'm buying really low, right,

777
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Like if you if you're a real estate investor and

778
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: you spend two grand on some crappy house, if it fails,

779
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: and you know you're doing millions upon millions of dub business,

780
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. But if that two

781
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: dollar house turns in in five years to a million

782
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: dollar house, feeling pretty good about yourself. To me, if

783
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: c Donald he never has to be a pro bowler,

784
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: but if he can just be a high level starter,

785
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere between like fourteen, like seven or eight,

786
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good. That's the question. I don't know

787
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: the answer. He turns the ball over a lot. Uh,

788
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: But he's young. He's only twenty three years old, will

789
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: be twenty four years old this summer, I think the

790
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: potential because Carson, you gotta spend right, You're gonna have

791
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: to give a first round pick, and there is a

792
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: chance he might just think DeShawn is good. But you

793
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: have to just you know, basically sell the farm for which,

794
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: if your team's equipped, like I said, the Miami Dolphins,

795
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: you're good to go. Hit the ground running, don't even flinch. Boom,

796
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year? To me, Donald, like, could

797
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: Donald turn into the equivalent of a Carson Wentz, maybe

798
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: even be more consistent and be way cheaper when you

799
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: get him. Now he's going into his fourth year, so

800
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: you gotta pick up his fifth year option. I'm in

801
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: no rush to give any extensions. Basically, get him on

802
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: a two year, thirty million dollar contract and to see

803
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: if I you know something, and if you don't, I

804
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: pivot in a couple of years. Now, it'd have to

805
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: be a coach with options, or a coach with stability,

806
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: like a Sean Payton, like a Frank Right, like a

807
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. You tell me one of those offensive coaches,

808
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: a gat Sam Donald. They can't make him a player,

809
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: and then the cheap, cheap flyer. Now this is you

810
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: might lose your money on this one. But this guy

811
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: started a ton of games in the NFL. He won

812
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: a playoff game. He's also on a cheap contract. He

813
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: makes ten million dollars. So basically like the number Trevor

814
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Lawrence will make ten million dollars next year. If you

815
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: could trade like a fourth or fifth round pick to

816
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: get Marcus Mariotta. Marcus was not good as last year

817
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, but last year car got injured in a

818
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night game against the Chargers and Mariota came out

819
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: into the game cold. He was really good in that game.

820
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: You saw he looked healthy, he was running around making plays.

821
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty accurate throwing the football in that game.

822
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: He played winning football. So if you're thinking about maybe

823
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback, but you want to have some insurance,

824
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe a Tray Lance, maybe a Justin Fields won't be

825
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: ready to go. What if I get Mariota for a

826
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: fourth round pick at ten million dollars, That's pretty good

827
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: insurance and plus, like I'm not my expectations with him

828
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: are pretty low, but I know he has a history

829
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: of playing in the league. He's had success in the

830
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: NFL and he's not that expensive because to me, the

831
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: key is you have to be comfortable with what you're buying. Right,

832
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: if you're spending a million dollars on a home, you're

833
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: gonna have pretty high standards. You spend a hundred thousand

834
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: dollars in a home, your standards are on his side. Right.

835
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: If you buy Deshaun Watson, he's got to be a

836
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer because that's the equivalent of buying a mansion.

837
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: It better be the best house on the block. Carson

838
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: is just a risky move, but your expectations are still

839
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: really high. Mariota's expectations are actually pretty low. You might

840
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: go in like, we'll see who wins the job, Mariota

841
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: or Tray Lance. Right, if you're one of these teams,

842
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: because you're not giving up your high pick, you're not

843
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: giving up your first round pick, you can still trade

844
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: up in the draft. It leaves you flexibility. The moment

845
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: you get it Wentz, the moment you get to Sean,

846
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: you don't have any flex There's there's no drafting a

847
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: young quarterback. Your picks are gone. So I think the

848
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: key is all these organizations are doing and they've probably

849
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: been doing these the last couple of months. Maybe not

850
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: last couple of months, excuse me. The last couple of

851
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: weeks is determining how much they're comfortable in spending on

852
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback, what they are willing to give up to get,

853
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: and then once they get that guy, what they think

854
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: the upside because you're basically running you know what the

855
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: potential of your acquisition is going to be. Like, You're

856
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: not trading for Carson Wentz if you don't think he

857
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: can get back to his Pro Bowl form, right, You're

858
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: trading for Sam Donald. You don't know if he can

859
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl or not. You have no clue

860
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: if anything his film would tell you know, but you

861
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: do think that maybe you can get the most out

862
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: of the guy. Where I do think Mariota is kind

863
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: of guy flying under the radar who I could pair

864
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback and have a little bit of

865
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: an insurance policy if that guy wasn't ready. Okay, Middlecoff

866
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlcoff Instagram handle. You guys know

867
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: the drill. I have so many d m s it's

868
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. Uh, you know, it feels good to

869
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: be be a dude and just have an unlimited amount

870
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: of dudes in their d M s. It is a

871
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: lot of football talk loveless in the show Appreciate It.

872
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: There's the new version of tight ends like Kelsey, who

873
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: are basically just big wide receivers who are virtually useless

874
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: as blockers. Then there's the old school tight ends like Gronk,

875
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: who can still hurt you in the passing game, but

876
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: can actually block defensive ends one on one and hold

877
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: their own. Kelsey's receiving numbers will most likely dwarf Gronks

878
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: by the time they both retire, But you can't overstate

879
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: the value of having a tight end like Gronk who

880
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: can man handle a defensive lineman. What do you think, Well,

881
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: if you had to take one guy in their prime,

882
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: you would take Gronk because you would take a guy

883
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: that can do both. Kelsey is gonna go down, like

884
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: you said, as the best pass catching tight end ever.

885
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna shatter all the records. But Gronk

886
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: is gonna go down as the greatest tight end of

887
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: all time. Right, you saw in that game he was

888
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: man handling people the line of scrimmage. And then when

889
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: he's healthy he can move, He can run, He's got

890
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: butter hands. He's just an all time great player. I

891
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: followed George Kittle on Instagram and he was just like,

892
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: the guy's the goat, you know. And I think Kittle

893
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: is kind of he's smaller than Gronk but is a

894
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: great blocker. Just not Kelsey's deal. But in fairness, like

895
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: who cares. Kelsey's so good as a wide receiver, doesn't

896
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: matter and most times, like you don't get Gronk as

897
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: a blocker and that good in the passing game. There's

898
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of like a happy medium. He's just he's got

899
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: to be one of the most unique players in NFL history,

900
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: just because he is such a dominant blocker. Carson Wentz

901
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: trade talks. Do you believe the rumors are coming from

902
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles or Wentz camp? I just believe that the

903
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: rumors are he's just gonna get traded. I don't I

904
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: don't think these are rumors coming from camps. I think

905
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: it's just teams are calling he's about to get dealt

906
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: in the next I'd say ten days. Maybe that's too long.

907
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: Maybe the next week could happen this week. By the

908
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: time I do a podcast for Friday, he might be

909
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: on a different team. I think when the stuff was

910
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: getting leaked, you know, a different point in time over

911
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: the last couple of years with Carson like the player

912
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: in the locker room that didn't like him. And then

913
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: remember everyone thought it was al Sean, then Aushan claimed

914
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't him, and then this year Carson said he

915
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: was going to demand a trade and was like, who

916
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: leaked that? It had to come from Carson's camp. We

917
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: can play that game all we want. These stories are

918
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: just teams are calling He's about to get dealt. I

919
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: just I don't think it's that simple. He's done. His

920
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: time with the Eagles is over. What the actual fuck

921
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: are the Packers doing hiring Joe Barry as the new

922
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Too young, up and coming guys they interviewed,

923
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: and they go with this old reach red who's never

924
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: had a top sixteen defense when he was in charge.

925
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: I really think they dropped the ball on this one.

926
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Hope Rogers could still make a few runs if we

927
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: had a good d to back him up, But I

928
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: have my doubts. What do you think? I think this

929
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: one is pretty simple one. I think Joe Berry is

930
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: kind of getting unfairly kind of crapped on here. He's fifty,

931
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: he's not seventy. He's been a defensive coordinator a couple

932
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: of times for not very long. Now is an inspiring higher?

933
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: Of course not. It is a little NFL. You know,

934
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: people hire their friends. It does have that feel, right,

935
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you hired Joe Berry why because they knew

936
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: him from the Rams. Now, sometimes you hire a guy

937
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: because you knew him, right, Andy Reid hire Steve Spagnola

938
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: two years ago because he knew him, because they had

939
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: worked together before, and people thought that was about higher.

940
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: Then they won the Super Bowl with his defense playing

941
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: pretty good. Robert Salo, who's now a head coach, do

942
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: you know the reason Kyle Shanahan hired him because he

943
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: knew him. They had worked together. So a lot of times,

944
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: for younger and older coaches, you just hire guys you're

945
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with. And I don't know much detail into this

946
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: in the sense of like how close the other guys were.

947
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: I will give the floor credit on this one. He

948
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: was on the right guy and Jim Leonard, Jim Leonard

949
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be a head coach one day in college

950
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: or the NFL. He is a star defensive coordinator right

951
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: now at Wisconsin. He turned him down. So it's like,

952
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: what did I say about the luck thing? Sometimes you

953
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: offer someone a job, you know, you d M a girl,

954
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: see if she wants to get a drink? They just

955
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: say no, what are you supposed to do? You're like,

956
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: that was my future wife. She just d M me,

957
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: or she said no. Or I have a boyfriend like

958
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard, I have a good job. I don't want

959
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: your job. What's what's she supposed to do? Now? You

960
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: could say, not go with a retread? You know, I

961
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't call a guy a retrade if he's only been

962
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator on pretty bad teams right for not

963
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: that long. Let me bring up his bio. I'm not

964
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be great, but he's a Monty Kiffin guy.

965
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: Uh And again la Flour is comfortable with him. So

966
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator for Washington in fifteen and

967
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: sixteen the team was terrible, and he was the defensive

968
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Lions and OH seven O eight. So

969
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: he's been a defensive coordinator twice on awful teams. He

970
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: was an assistant head coach linebacker coach the last couple

971
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: of years for the Rams and they were fantastic. Sean

972
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: McVeigh really likes him. I don't know, man, I I

973
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: don't think this is like as crazy as Mike Nolan

974
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: being the d C or just some of these hires

975
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: we've seen over the years. Because again I give Matt Lafleur,

976
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: I guess his brothers Mike. I get Matt and Mike

977
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: mixed up. Matt Lafloor, I give him credit. He was

978
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: on the right guy. That guy just said I'm staying.

979
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: And that happens sometimes in football, right you go after

980
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: the best defensive coordinator in college, it actually happens a

981
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: lot of a lot. It just doesn't get out. And

982
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: that guy turned you down. And this is the problem

983
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: right now. I think for NFL, you used to ten

984
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: years ago, if you offered a college coordinator job, an

985
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: NFL coordinator job one million percent, they take it. Well,

986
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: now you make so much money in college like Wisconsin,

987
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: to paid Jim Leonard one million dollars, two million dollars,

988
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: they can pay him a lot of money, big ten money.

989
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: It's flowing huge cash. Back in the day, it might

990
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: have been double or tripled your money, and maybe the

991
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Packers were willing to pay him. Probably Jim Leonard is

992
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: he's in the NFL. He's got a little money, right,

993
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: so he's not driven by money. He's driven by comfort.

994
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: He's driven by he's got options. He didn't have to

995
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: take the job. Now, my if I was talking with

996
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard, I'd say, what are your aspirations? Do you

997
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: want to be an NFL head coach? Because you go

998
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: to the Packers, you make their defense good, You'll be

999
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach in a year, Max too. And

1000
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: he might say, well, are you sure I can't become

1001
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: a head coach from the Wisconsin defensive coordinator. And I'd

1002
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: say no, I'm not, actually, but probably not. I don't

1003
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: know what his aspirations are, but I I do give

1004
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: the floor in the Packers credit. They were they were

1005
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: on the right guy. I'm just starting to dabble into

1006
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: the stock market. I'm not gonna front I know nothing

1007
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: about it. I have the pucker factor when thinking about

1008
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: investing money outside of my R I ra a S.

1009
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: Can you suggest any reading, reading, audio, sites, or anything

1010
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: useful for a new be Thanks my man, and cheers.

1011
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Now this is gonna sound kind of crazy. I don't like.

1012
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: I basically just invest either in trends, like I'm heavy

1013
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: in the weeds sector. As green technology gets bigger, I'm

1014
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: an invest in companies that have to do with like

1015
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: sustainable energy. I had an investment buddy that recommended Bloomberg.

1016
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: It's called Odd Lots, pretty good podcast. Uh the Journal had.

1017
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal has a daily kind of business podcast,

1018
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: but it's hit or miss. Sometimes it's like today's is

1019
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: about Trump's impeachment, you know, so it's not always about

1020
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: stock market. But the Bloomberg one, it's with Joy and

1021
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: Tracy or Joe and Tracy that they're always talking about

1022
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: the market. I like, I wake up to CNBC. You know,

1023
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: if I come I get up. The great part about

1024
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: working from home, he just you just get out of bed,

1025
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, six six thirty whatever, walk right into the office,

1026
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: and I just turn on CNBC. Now, I think if

1027
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: you talk to someone that works in finance, they tell

1028
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: you CNBC is kind of like, uh, you know, first

1029
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: take or whatever. But it just they have different guests on.

1030
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of money talk, and it just

1031
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: gets my money mind bowing. And then from there I'll

1032
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 1: just find things that I'm interested in things that make sense,

1033
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: things that I know my friends are using trends I know,

1034
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: and I get aggressive with investments, So I don't know

1035
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: if I really helped you that much. That's just my strategy,

1036
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't pretend to be you know, Leonardo DiCaprio

1037
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: here in the Wolf Wall Street. But yeah, listen to

1038
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: the Bloomberg podcasts and watch CNBC or Bloomberg Television. Longtime

1039
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: listener of the pod question for the show. I'm a

1040
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: big time Cold fan, and I have no clue what

1041
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: the funk we're gonna do with the quarterback position. If

1042
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: we roll out with Burssette, I don't see how we

1043
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: get any better. Are there any moves you see us making?

1044
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz, I think you'll be sniffing around

1045
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: on Derek Carr. I think you should be sniffing around

1046
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald, and I think they're sniffing around on

1047
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Now, I don't think Deshaun Watson's on the

1048
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: table because of the division, but I think Chris Ballard

1049
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: is one of the best gyms in the league. Don't

1050
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: be worried. It's just it's February eight. Nothing he can do.

1051
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: I think he's on the right guys, you will have

1052
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Here's one thing I can comfortably make a

1053
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: hardcore prediction. You will start the season with a quarterback.

1054
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: Right you have no quarterbacks on the roster. That will

1055
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: not be the case. And you will not go into

1056
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: the season with like Ryan Fitzpatrick as your quarterback. I

1057
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: bet Carson Wentz, Derek Carr. Maybe they trade up to

1058
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: draft one of these guys. I do think you'll be excited. Well,

1059
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: you might not like Carson Wentz, but you'll be okay.

1060
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, they took a big swing. I do feel

1061
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: they will do that this offseason. I really like Dac

1062
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: and I think he's a top six quarterback. Should I

1063
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: be worried about him not being signed and hitting the

1064
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: free market. I also think Jerry does not get the

1065
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: credit for being a good GM. He has a lot

1066
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: more hits than mrs in the draft I degree, I

1067
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: think Jerry is pretty good GM, and I think he's

1068
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: actually played the dock. You know Prescott negotiations pretty well.

1069
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: He could as signed him to extension like Goff and Wentz,

1070
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: and look what happened there. Both Wentz is about to

1071
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: be traded and Goff's already gone and they're playing it

1072
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: year by year. You know why, because they don't know.

1073
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: You don't always if if you don't know, you want

1074
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: to marry or you don't have to get engaged. Now

1075
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: she might leave you. That's fine. But the great part

1076
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: about you know, we're that analogy doesn't work in football.

1077
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: You can franchise Tag, So if she wanted to leave you,

1078
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: you can franchise Tag. Dak Prescott can't do that in

1079
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: real life. Like, if she wants to leave, she's leaving.

1080
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: You don't have to get married. Asked the Rams, how

1081
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: you know that early contract worked out? Were the Eagles?

1082
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: It was a disaster. They both regret it. I actually

1083
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have done this right. They could have

1084
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: had Dak extended, he still would have been hurt and

1085
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: they would have nothing to show for it. Are we

1086
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: sure we need to give Dak a million dollars guaranteed?

1087
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: I'm not what what what's the rush? Let's see him

1088
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: this year? Can they make the playoffs? I don't know, man,

1089
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: I just I think you guys are in a good spot.

1090
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys actually played it perfectly. I'm a

1091
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: huge Panthers fan and it would be cool to have

1092
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: your two cents on us as a franchise. Honestly, I

1093
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: get kind of tired of always hearing about the big

1094
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: market teams. It'd be cool to hear more about what

1095
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: you think of the status for our franchises. With all

1096
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the hype on these young coaches. What's your take on

1097
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Matt Rule. I feel like we could be a legit

1098
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: team if we had a better quarterback, an offensive line,

1099
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and a few defensive pieces. Thanks. And if you were

1100
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: ever in Buena Vista, Colorado, hit me up and we

1101
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: can have beers, and I will take you whitewater rafting. Yeah,

1102
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: I would love that I got whitewater rafting. Be badass

1103
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: if I fall do? I mean, I know how to swim?

1104
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: Uh the Panthers. I think it's pretty simple. When you

1105
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: guys had Cam Newton and you were winning, people talked

1106
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot about you. When you just suck, no one

1107
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: talks about you. Matt Rule, he was excellent in college.

1108
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: A couple of my buddies that went through at Baylor

1109
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: and Temple, they love them. They think very very highly

1110
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: of them. They are going big quarterback hunting right. They

1111
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: tried to get Matt Stafford they're being aggressive. That's what

1112
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: David Tepper is known. I love David dude paid cash

1113
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: for his franchise. Him and Steve Balmer the Clippers. They're like, yeah,

1114
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: we're so rich. How much two billion? Okay, let me

1115
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: sell some shares of Apple. I'll I'll have you the

1116
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: cash by the end of the week. Like, what a badass, right,

1117
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: how much you need two point three billion? Cool? Let

1118
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: me let me call my banker. We'll have it in

1119
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: uh duffel bags of twenties and twenties and tens or

1120
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: fifties or fifties and hundreds. What do you want? Like? What?

1121
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: What a what a legend? Uh? He was aggressive to

1122
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: get Matt Rule. Now it's just Matt Rule hired. Joe

1123
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: Brady brought a bunch of dudes with him from Baylor.

1124
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: Is he a big time NFL coach? Because he was

1125
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: a really good college coach? Is he a big time

1126
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: NFL coach? Can't judge until he gets a better teams?

1127
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Teams sucked. Now do they make a trade for one

1128
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: of these guys, We'll see and if they get a quarterback,

1129
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: can't you win? Well, then there's a lot of pressure

1130
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: on Joe Brady because rules kind of the culture guy, right,

1131
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: He's like a hardball, He's like a Tomlin. He's just

1132
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: kind of leader of men people. People love him. But

1133
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: you don't win in this league without a star quarterback,

1134
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: without a good quarterback, and clearly their team needs a

1135
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: lot more talent. Like you said, defense is terrible. They

1136
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: have they have almost a honey Badger. You know they

1137
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: got McCaffrey. DJ Moore is a good player. Uh. The

1138
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: kid they drafted last year Brown from Auburn in the

1139
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: top ten is gonna be a good player. Need more

1140
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: pieces on defense, and just need a better quarterback. Love

1141
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: everything Teddy Bridgewater stands for great kid, incredible story when

1142
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: his knee fell off to come back. He's just not

1143
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: a very good starting quarterback. If he's your backup, he'd

1144
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: be the best backup in the league. So I just

1145
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: you start winning, people talk about you. People talk about

1146
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Saints like one thing. When the South.

1147
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's just be real about it, Like the SEC is

1148
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: bigger than the NFL. So we just talked more about

1149
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: the SEC than we do the NFL. But if you

1150
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: win big like the Saints. We've been talking about the

1151
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Saints for a decade. Tampa Bay got Tom Brady won

1152
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We talking about them all the time.

1153
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing what winning does. The one thing if you're

1154
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: a big market, you get talked about no matter what.

1155
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Because if I talk about the Cowboys or the New

1156
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: York Giants or the Eagles, like people are gonna listen.

1157
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: They have massive fan bases, win or loose. I'll talk

1158
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: about Caroline if they're kicking ass, I'm not talking about

1159
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. If they're not winning, you get Tom Brady

1160
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: win the Super What we're talking about? You just a business,

1161
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: you know. I mean we're pretty unemotional, you know me.

1162
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: I'll talk about whoever. But I just want the most

1163
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: people to listen. What are the Saints do at quarterback?

1164
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: With their caps situation? Will they take a step back

1165
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: with the likes of Hendrickson likely moving on due to

1166
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: not being able to afford him. Well, I think we

1167
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: saw that the salary cap is gonna be about eighty

1168
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: five million dollars. I think the Saints are at like

1169
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: two seventy now. They're gonna save a bunch of Drew Brees.

1170
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: They'll cut a bunch of guys. Uh. I think the

1171
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: most logical move is probably to bring back Jami's relatively

1172
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: cheap and him and takes them. Maybe move up and

1173
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: trade for a quarterback. You know, could they have got

1174
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: Stafford he makes too much money. Could they trade for Wence?

1175
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: He probably makes too much money. Maybe just roll back

1176
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: with those two guys, survey the land, figure out what

1177
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: you need without Drew Brees, and then go on from

1178
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: there and maybe you could win with James. I'm not

1179
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: certain that Sean Payton and Jamis can't win. I actually

1180
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: could see that I was thinking about you were talking

1181
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: about in regards to Eric B. Enemy in Andy's future retirement.

1182
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Is there a case in which the Chiefs could talk

1183
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy and tell him he's the next head

1184
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: coach once Andy retires. They could possibly raise his pay

1185
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: to keep him in house, so once Andy does retire,

1186
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: the transition can be smooth. He's a guy that the

1187
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: players rave about, and with how young they are key positions,

1188
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: it could benefit all of them. Is this something that

1189
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: could seriously happen. I don't believe in coaching waitings. I

1190
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: think we saw that in college football over the last

1191
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: couple of decades. Remember like must Champ in Texas. Uh,

1192
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley wasn't even really Bob just retired and they

1193
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: made Lincoln the head coach and it worked out well.

1194
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think coaching waiting is possible. The other

1195
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm Andy Reid's like sixty two years old,

1196
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: and I don't see him going it. Why would he leave?

1197
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if Andy coach is another seven

1198
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: eight years, Andy sixty two, he'll be sixty three this year.

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's got minimum minimum five minimum

1200
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: five years. Where would he go? He's got Patrick Mahomes.

1201
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: It's like, you don't get out of the oil business

1202
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: at the moment you strike oil, right, you didn't come

1203
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: out to California in eighty nine find some gold and

1204
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh I'm over it. You know you just

1205
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: start gold. You starn't minding for more. He's got my

1206
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: homes when is his entire life? Donovan mcnabby thought right,

1207
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: But then it turned out Donovan something was missing and

1208
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Donovan was really good. Michael Vick for split second turned

1209
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: out now Alex just wasn't good enough. He finally gets

1210
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: the best quarterback he's ever had as a head coach.

1211
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: Any coach. Brett Farret probably the best quarterback he's ever coached. Period.

1212
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: You just you write it out. So I don't think

1213
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: you do coaching waiting and I would Brett Veach. Yeah,

1214
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: who knows, But I think that's off the table. Assuming

1215
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Watson is off the table, Duck cap space. Who gives

1216
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: the Saints the best chance to make a real run

1217
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: in the championship is in the next three years. I

1218
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: think Winston is the best option because you don't need

1219
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: to trade away any assets. But Donald will be a

1220
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: high upside piece that you could buy low. Yeah. Man,

1221
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: I love Sam Donald for like Kyle Shanahan and Sean Payton,

1222
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: because I think you can get cheap. Right. He doesn't

1223
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: make very much money this year. I think it's like

1224
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: four million bucks. You gotta pick up the fish year option,

1225
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: so that means next year he'd make twenty five. So

1226
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: you basically look at it. We've got two years thirty

1227
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: million dollars and we got a chance to get a

1228
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: four year old who was drafted really high. I get

1229
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: to mold him now. I don't know what Sean Payton

1230
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: thinks that Jamis Winston. What it was like every day

1231
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: with Jamis Winston and Drew Brees I think Jami is

1232
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: pretty talented, but just like Sean Payton, think he can

1233
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with Jamis Winston the next couple

1234
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: of years. Maybe he does. Jamis Winston is also a

1235
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: free agent. What are they gonna pay Jamis Winston? Does

1236
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: Jamis want like we take like two million dollars? Or

1237
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: does you want like fifteen? Because remember Jacoby when Andrew

1238
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: Luck retired, I didn't understand this, and the Colts were like,

1239
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: we gotta pay Jacoby like a starter, And I was like,

1240
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: do you you know? Like who really? Like? Do people

1241
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: look at each other in the locker room and go

1242
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: he only makes three million dollars even though he's the starter.

1243
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: That is too low, Like everyone understood Luck retired, what

1244
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? But they gave him, remember like

1245
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: that thirty million bucks and it just turned out like

1246
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: they kind of regret that. You know, Jamis, let's be

1247
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: a starter. I'll give you like five million dollars. But

1248
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: would I rather have Sam Donald five million dollars? One

1249
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: thing that concerns me about Sam Donald is he's just

1250
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: like he's like the usc Jamis turns the ball over

1251
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot, makes some bad decisions. He's more mobile than Jamis,

1252
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: but like their games are kind of similar. Turn the

1253
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: ball over a shipload pros a lot of picks, makes

1254
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: a lot of head scratching place now can make the

1255
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: big play too, but they're a little risky, so you

1256
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: could argue if you're gonna go with one, Jamis has

1257
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: proven way more in the NFL. If you had to

1258
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: win a game tomorrow, I would take Jamis over Sam

1259
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Donald now if I need to win a game for

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Speaker 1: the next three years. Maybe they think or Sam has

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Speaker 1: more of an upside. I don't know, but I would

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Speaker 1: say that Sam's probably the most realistic option for the Saints,

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Speaker 1: given that he's cheaper and he doesn't cost that much

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Speaker 1: to acquire. But you're right. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: Saints and the culture right now are kind of like,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Same with the Bears. This difference than the Niners do

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Speaker 1: have Jimmy, even though they don't I don't think really

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Speaker 1: want to bring them back. But Bears do not have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Colts do not have a quarterback. The Saints

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Speaker 1: have Taysom. Jamis is a free agent, so I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna learn a lot over these next like definitely

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Speaker 1: the next month some of this quarterback movement, keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on. Appreciate you listening. Happy Sue Ball ending week

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Speaker 1: and we'll just get through this snow football together. Audios, godspeed,

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Speaker 1: May the peace be with you.