1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. I should have known yesterday it was 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: going to be one of those days. I opened the 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: gate to the shop, I get out. You know it's Friday. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: I went to the Delhi at breakfast. I go to 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: the shop. I take the lock off the front gate 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: and the lock fell apart. Don't work. Wait, my alarm 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: was busted. The box to be out and everybody one 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: of those days. It's one of those days. The car Doctor. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I want to know the weather because weather affects parametric pressure. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Weather affects vehicle operation, and I want to make sure 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: the information I'm giving might be not vehicle weather specific 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: type of stuff. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where car 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: at eight five six and now running. Hey, it's time 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: to start your engines. Alloe and welcome morn and eating 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor here at eight five five five 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: six zero nine zero zero to take your calls and 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: answer your questions. As always, The Car Doctor's phone number 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: is seven is toll free eight five five five six zero. UM. 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: What going on? Um boy? What a busy week? Car 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: doctor show dot com to By the way, let me 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: get that out there, uh, so that you're aware and 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: you can also podcast from there and get to all 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: the usual places. UM. Read an interesting article real quick 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: before I know the phones are lit up, just real fast, UM, 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: just to throw it out there, and if you want 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: to talk about this this hour weeken, Um, it's up 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: to you. But you know, there was a recent article 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: online that I was reading and I'll paraphrase and quote 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: it here as I'm reading from it. Mercedes Benz will 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: make an electric or hybrid version of all its cars 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: by two and they're not alone. Volvo will go all 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: electric by next year. Can I mentione? Volvo is gonna 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: be all electric? No more internal combustion engine at Volvo. Uh. 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what they're thinking. Um Ford 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: has plans for an electric F one fifty truck and 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: an electric Mustang. GM will launch ten electric or hybrid 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: cars in the country by and Mercedes Benz is Christopher 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: von Hugo says the coolness of self driving cars will 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: help convince the public that the coming electric vehicles will 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: be worthwhile. I mean that's a pretty bold statement. You've 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: got some major players they're betting on electric and hybrid 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: vehicles as the way forward, and I'm not convinced. And 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: my rationale is, and here's you know, they all talk 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: about the coolness of it and self driving cars, and 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna convince people self driving cars or electric 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: vehicles are worthwhile. How cheap are they to fix? And 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: how often do they break? And that's really the key. 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: And when you stop to look at how long it 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: took us to get internal combustion engine vehicles sorted out 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: in all environments, all weather, you know, the long haul. 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: It was pretty close to a hundred years, right, I mean, 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: it took us a long time in history. And now 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring electric vehicles and they've been around in 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: some form at some volume, maybe fifteen years now. I'm thinking, Um, 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty daunting task. I'm not convinced 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: that it's gonna work. Willing to look at it, but 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced it's gonna work. But you know, what 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? What do you think about it? Send 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: me an email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: or give us a qualitive five zero. If you want 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: to talk about electric vehicles and self driving vehicles? Are 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: they the way forward? Are they the wave of the future? 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: And be interesting conversation. Let's have that one either this 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: week or next week. Whatever you hurt the Syrus. Let's 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open, Anthony, and let's go over 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: and let's go talk to Let's go talk to Terry 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Tempo. Terry, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: can I help? Yes, sir, I've got a Tempo. It's 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: a low vileage car. UH it's got about a hundred 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it and UH I bought it from 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: my UH daughter to drive, and she got another one, 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: so I ended up with it back. UM, I took 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: up a long trip and it's been running fine. And 79 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I came back home and made the turn to come 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: into the garage and I heard a pop. And since 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: then it's had a massive power steering league and UH 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: I thought at once maybe it was UH reservoir, but 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: I took it off and checked it. I plugged it 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: and filled it up and it's it holds flood by itself. 85 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: But um, the problem I'm having is get into it 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: the pirate steering pump and the main lines. Because I 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar or not, but that year 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: model has got that gigantic alternator bracket on it. Oh yeah, 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: is this what? What? What engine? What engine was this terry? 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: This is the fourth cylinder of the sixth Uh, it's 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: the four cylinder and the alternators in the back right, 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: Well they it's in the front, okay, but but it's 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's in the front of the engine or 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the rear of the engine. Up top. Yeah, it's it's 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: up top, but it's it's Uh, it's facing the radiator. 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: It's on the radiator side. Got you, got you? Got you, 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: got you? And the power steering club is just below it. Correct? Correct? Yeah, okay, 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: now I got you. Um okay, So your question to 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: me is how do you get to the pump? Yeah, 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how to get to the 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: pomp and the lines because the lines. I can see 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: the beginning of the lines from the pump, but then 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: they disappear. And my main question is I took the 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: alternator all, and I can't see where. I can't say 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: where to take the actual boats out of the bracket 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: to the alternator. Are they are they somehow under it? 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Or the bolts out of the bracket to the alternator? Well, 108 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: don't the bolts come in from the front or the 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: passenger side of the vehicle? Uh? And say, I've not 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: been able to find the boats and the bracket to 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: take it off. And it's got to come off to 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: get to the pump. But so I'm I'm at a loss. 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: I've looked and looked, and I can't tell you. Well, 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: do you have the do you have the alternator out 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: of the vehicle? No? Uh? Not not right now. I 116 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: put the alternator back in where I could move it. 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: And uh so I I put the alternator back in 118 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: so you can get the you can get the alternator out, 119 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: you can't get the bracket out. Yeah, okay, so the bracket. 120 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Look at the bracket the way it's it's bolted to 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: the block. If I remember right, I think there's four holes. 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's two. But the bolts are recessed into the 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: aluminum of the bracket. Okay, all right from what I remember, 124 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and and you know, take the alternate once the alternators out. 125 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Now maybe it's filled up with some mung and Schmutz 126 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: technical terms, and you know the bolts are recessed down under. 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: But if I remember right, it was a matter of 128 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: looking and finding the bolts on the bracket, taking them 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: out in the whole bracket lifts off, and then you 130 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: can get to the pump. Okay, all right? And and 131 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: another question, um they it seems to babe when I 132 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: say a massive power steering lake, I mean you can 133 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: fill it up and turn the car on and in 134 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes time, the reservoir is completely empty. So where's 135 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: the fluid coming out behind the motor? In front? It 136 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: seems to be it's I don't know if the the 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: pulleys are throwing it towards the you know, the pastor 138 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: side firewall, which would be the front, or it's my 139 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: uh belt is getting sod. Okay, So it's up front, 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. So it's it's I there the 141 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: front seal of the pump has failed, okay. Or the 142 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: power steering there's a rubber portion if I remember right, 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: isn't there a rubber portion of the power steering hose 144 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: up there by the pump word. The one return line, 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: if I remember right, had a piece of rubber in it. 146 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: It plugs into the nipple on the reservoir right right. 147 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I've replaced the supply line because that's the only one 148 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that I could access. But the line that you're talking about, 149 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: I've looked at it, the portion that I can't get to, 150 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and it seems to be okay, okay, Well let's think 151 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: of it like this, all right. You know, if if 152 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you wash everything down and have somebody started up and 153 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: you're looking with a light, it's you've got to see 154 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: the source of where it's coming from first. Right now, 155 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: If if it looks like, you know, the inside of 156 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: the pulley is dry, wash out the pulley and the 157 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: pulley gets soaking wet and you don't see fluid spraying 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: on it, then it sounds like it's the front seal 159 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: of the pump. Normally I would tell somebody to add 160 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: a fluorescent die to the fluid, whichever one we're trying 161 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: to figure out the leak on and look for the die. 162 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: But it sounds like this is such a massive leak 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: of epic proportion that you're you're you're probably wasting time 164 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: going through the motion. You know, it just sounds like 165 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: it's that big. So that's what I would do. Now, 166 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: you know, my concern is it's twenty five years old. 167 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I would put a pump in it. I 168 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: would try and change whatever lines I can still get, 169 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: all right, And you know, if you're gonna start to 170 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: drive this car, then you know, keep in mind that 171 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: all the rubber is twenty five years old. And you 172 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: know if if once you've got it apart, you only 173 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: want to take it apart once. Type of a thing, 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: all right. Now, it may also get easier if you 175 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: take out the radiator to gain access to some of this. 176 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: But but watch what I tell you, you know, and 177 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: here's the case where the argument can be made for 178 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: system repair. All right, you know you're gonna take apart 179 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: this twenty five year old how many miles are on it? 180 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Hundred thousand? Got a hundred thousand original radiator? I would 181 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I've not ever changed it, so I would guess that 182 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: it is original hoses. Uh. Now, now the hoses have 183 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: have been changed how long ago? Uh? They're not motor craft, 184 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: so I don't know. They're aftermarket, so they have been changed. 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't five years old, ten years old. You know, 186 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: we're dealing with twenty five year old car here. Yeah, 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I would say we've had the car now for about 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: five years, and uh, the guy that we bought it 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: problem was pretty mechanical, so I thought he was the 190 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: one che So I'm guessing twen I guess eight years 191 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: eight to the so you know, all the rubber on 192 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: this car is somewhere between eight and five years old. 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I'd be thinking, you're gonna have to put a belt 194 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: on it for the power of steering leak. You're gonna 195 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: want to do the power of steering pump. You're gonna 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: want to do the lines. I would I would start 197 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: thinking about a radiator and hoses. Uh, you know, while 198 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: you got it open and you get some access to things, 199 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I put I put a thermostat in there. It's a 200 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: good time to just kind of do the obvious. You know. 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: It's it's not like this is an easy car to 202 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: work on, and it's not easy to source parts. So 203 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, don't wait five more years to try and 204 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: find a good radiator for it, because you don't know 205 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: what five years are gonna bring. You know, things tend 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: things tend to disappear off the shelf. Do you have 207 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: do you have an Orillyoto parts down there in your 208 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: nick of the woods the road? And then get over 209 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: to the get over to your local Rallyoto parts and 210 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: start talking to them, tell them what you're working on, 211 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: and um, you know, try and scoff up some of 212 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: the uh, some of the parts from them, because you'll 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: find that they've got the better quality stuff. And uh 214 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: they're great when it comes to warranty and any other issues, 215 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: and they've got the right answers. Their counterpeople are second 216 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: to none. How now, how big a job today is? 217 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: I may have you? Have you replaced the pumps on 218 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: one of these Yeah, I mean back in the day, 219 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: we used to do pumps. We used to do radio. 220 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: As you see these cars all the time. Um, you 221 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's just a matter of having the time, 222 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: the patients and picking your way through it. Um, you know, 223 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: it was nuts and bolts. The hard part about this 224 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: job is gonna be things are gonna be a little 225 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: dried out and rigid and and tough. So you gotta 226 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: take some time and think about your moves. You're playing 227 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you're playing poker and chess at the same time. My friend, 228 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: you've got to be a little cunning and you've got 229 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: to think about what moves you're gonna make before you 230 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: make them. Uh, do you have time for another quick question? 231 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: I do. If you can, let me pull over and 232 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: take a pause, hang on, and we'll be back right 233 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: after this. Hey, the car doctor, we're back. Let's get 234 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: real quick. Back to Terry. Go ahead, Terry, we got 235 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: two minutes ahead, real fast, Yes, sir, I've got also 236 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: got a nine cat like brown and transmation final and 237 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: it's got the turbo hydramatic two. Right. I always wondering 238 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: what your thoughts are regarding the Transmason if if it's 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: if that's why I should go back with it, or 240 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe something something else. Now I think I would go 241 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: back with that. I would. I would take it to 242 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: somebody to, you know, get it evaluated and rebuilt. And 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: a lot's changed in the in the world in the 244 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: thirty plus years since that trans came out, and there's 245 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: been a lot of improvements. Um, I don't know of 246 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: a direct swap. I'm sure the trans guy would perhaps 247 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: there is something better, but before we start changing too 248 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: many things. My concern would be the rest of the 249 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: car in terms of will it work together with it? 250 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: So think of it like this, that that that term 251 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: of four hundred two hundred four are at last of 252 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: thousand and eight and lasted forty years. Um, that's a 253 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: pretty good record. I don't think you're gonna have it 254 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: forty years from now, so uh, you know, I would 255 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: take take and get it evaluated by a trans guy. 256 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Tell them what you're looking for. Is there a better 257 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: version of that or is there an upgrade with better 258 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: heavy duty parts to put in it? And um, go 259 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: with that and I think you'll be just fun. So 260 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: make sure he flushes out the t AND's cooler, which 261 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure he will. He'll know that in the radiator 262 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know, just make sure the fluids everything 263 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: is clean. And consider maybe putting an auxiliary trans cooler 264 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: on top of the one that's there. Maybe that would 265 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: help longevity, depending upon how you're using the vehicle, Terry, 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: I gotta run to the next call. I appreciate all 267 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: that you've asked, and thanks for being part of the 268 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: car doctrination. Let us know what happens with the for 269 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: tempo lance in Bismarck. How can I help you, sir, 270 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: what's going on? Um? I have a totally twelve for diffusion. 271 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: I have a question about how to prevent rust. Um, Okay, 272 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: the car is only six years old and I have 273 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the trunk is resting along the lip where it comes 274 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: down and meet some bumper. Checked with the dealership and 275 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: they said, well, you're a year past the paint warranty. 276 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: I washed the car weekly. It started a garage with 277 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the round forty degrees. You know, what else can I 278 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: do to prevent rest? I think six years it's already 279 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: resting out is kind of a short term. Yeah, and 280 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: I agree, is it? You know? Do you wash it 281 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: at a car wash? You hand wash it? Yep? No 282 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: better car wash? All right, So I'd go to the 283 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: core of the summer, I hand washing. But okay, I'd 284 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: ask the car wash what are they using for water? 285 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: It would be my first question and the only reason 286 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: I point this out. And I don't wanna make everybody 287 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: run back to the car wash and say what are 288 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: you guys doing right or wrong? But I have had conversation. 289 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I had one with Joe, the 290 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: local car wash owner here in North Jersey at one 291 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of the places I go and I asked him what 292 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: his mixes and you know he's mixing it right. I 293 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: think he said he was doing um, because they do 294 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: recycle their water. And that's my point. So you know, 295 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: if they're recycling their water and you're in a state 296 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: where it's it's it's heavy salt use on the road, 297 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: you're you're taking that salt and that grittin and contaminant 298 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: and then washing the car with it. In a sense, 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: although they claim that they're recycling to a certain level, 300 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: but they do they can save money by using you know, 301 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: more recycled than fresh water in that sense is my understanding. 302 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: So and if I'm wrong, somebody in the car washing 303 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: business please call me up and correct me, set me straight. Um. 304 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: But I agree it's it. It is too soon. I 305 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: have seen my share of Ford Explorers to the exact 306 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: same thing in in rusting out the hood, and I 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: question parents, go ahead, And I was gonna say, go ahead, 308 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: finished what your explorer to your parents have No, I 309 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, my parents have a Ford Explorer 310 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and they had issued with the paint on their hood 311 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: rusting everybody a year ago. They had to have it repainted. Ye, 312 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and and because it's specific panels, it makes me think 313 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a vendor issue. It's how it was 314 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: assembled and prepped, all right. You know it's because in 315 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the case of the Explorer, I don't know what is 316 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: in case of your fusion, but in the case of 317 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the Explorer, it's only the hood that I've seen blood 318 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: blistering and bubble like that. So you know, if it 319 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: was the whole vehicle, if it was you know, we 320 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: used to see things with ground issues on certain cars 321 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: and how they would rust, you know, as well as 322 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: environment and all that. But because it's because it's that 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: one panel, it makes me think, what's particular to that? 324 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: How is that one panel being handled and assembled? Here, 325 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I've got one for you. My two thousand four suburban 326 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: garage kept in Baby since day one, fifty six thousand miles. 327 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Just like all the suburbans and tahose and trailblazers of 328 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: that generation. It is blistering the paint around the rear 329 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: hatch push button that opens the rear hatch. You know, 330 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: there's there's no there's no reason for it. Uh, you 331 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: know the cars. There's there's a car that's been pampered 332 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: more than you know, any two year old in the country. Um, 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: if you if you touch the paint on the suburban, 334 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: it's still smooth and feels shiny, and it feels wet 335 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: even when the car is dry. It's been waxed so much. 336 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: So I you know, I would, I would go back 337 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and just as the car wash. Hey, you know, just 338 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: out of curiosity, can you tell me what the mix is, 339 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: how much recycled water to fresher you're using. If he 340 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: says he's using all fresh water, then it's got nothing 341 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: to do with the car wash. It's gonna be the panel. 342 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: You know. Have you looked underneath the car real quick 343 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: before I let you go? Yeah, and underneath it looks fine. 344 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's the only thing I can see 345 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: of that trump. Then it's gonna be. It's gonna it's 346 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: it's probably not car wash related. It's probably how that 347 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: panel was assembled from ford And um, I would, I 348 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: would just get it fixed and just be aware of 349 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: it and maybe the body guy can tell you more 350 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: once he strips the material down. Good luck to your 351 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: lance and thanks for calling it. Hey. Coming up next, 352 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: an old friend from the past, Ron Ross, returns with 353 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the history and the demise of Englishtown Raceway Park, New Jersey. 354 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'm moneating the car Doctor. We're back right 355 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: after this. That's right. If you call and we're not live, 356 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: you can leave a message and we'll call you back 357 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: to get you on the air with Ron. Eight five 358 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, here he is. 359 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: It has been quite a while since I've spoken to 360 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: our next next guest, and I considered him a very 361 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: dear friend. Um, it's been a couple of years. We 362 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: used to talk up here on radio quite frequently when 363 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: he was the owner of Simon k Performance and uhum, 364 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: some recent changes in the industry have decited me to 365 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: sit there and say, you know, it's probably time to 366 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: reach out to Ron and bring him back. I want 367 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about a t L where 368 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: he is now, but I just want to talk about 369 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the raceway park along just down to Jersey. Mr Ron Ross, 370 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: welcome back, sir, Hey, good afternoon. UM, let's talk about 371 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: a t L. Well, let's talk about why you're here. 372 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Why are you at a t L and not no longer? Simon? 373 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I can we talk about that real quick, not to 374 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: bring up a painful episode. Maybe I hope it wasn't 375 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: painful for you. No, not not at all. I mean 376 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: I we're in Simonic Performance, which was my own company 377 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: where I built racing on performance engines for about twenty 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: one years. But with the change in the industry and 379 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: how things were going harder and harder to make a profit, 380 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: I had a chance to move on to another company 381 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: and closed a small shop that the head and I 382 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: elected to do that five years ago. Yeah, and now 383 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: are at a t L fuel Cells at l fuel 384 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: cells dot com. And you guys are you know, we've 385 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: talked about this once in a while. We see each 386 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: other at breakfast and um, you're you're you guys are 387 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: building fuel cells and bladders for everything from small race 388 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: cars to the military to uh you know, um, what 389 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: are some of the crazy things you've seen in the 390 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: past five years? Oh boy, Well, I'm really on the 391 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: motorsports end and we're doing and by fuel cells, so 392 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: everybody gets it right. That's really a crash resistant type 393 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: of gas tank, something that can be deformed and not 394 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: like fuel. But we do almost everything in the racing industry. 395 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: We do a lot of military, we do a lot 396 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: of industrial, We even doing a lot of stuff for 397 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: a nacid and SpaceX and that, and it's just been 398 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: a great company so far to work for. Yeah, um, 399 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean I've heard some of the things you guys 400 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: have made. You um you you you also have like 401 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: portable fuel bladders to extend the range of boats so 402 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: people get an idea of what you're dealing with. So 403 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: if somebody wants to add, you know, a hundred gallons 404 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: to the deck or torner gallons to the deck, they 405 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: can get a bladder made and go take a boat ride, 406 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: go further out, go more deep sea fishing kind of thing. Right. Oh, absolutely, 407 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: that that's one of the big areas that's growing for 408 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: us the last few years, the marine industry and all. 409 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: There's just someone he uses for this that uh, that 410 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: is kind of exciting every day even though I only 411 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: see the motor sports and to hear about everything else 412 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: we're working up. So in the five years that you're there, 413 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: run do you do you think the motorsports side is growing, 414 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: staying the same, shrinking? You know, Well, what's your feeling? 415 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Well that that's a tough one. There's definitely some areas 416 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: of motorsports. No matter how much I don't want to 417 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: say that are shrinking. A lot of it is is 418 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: struggling to find you know, corporate sponsorship and correct money 419 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: to keep going. And some of it is doing okay 420 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: and even growing some different areas, but uh, drag racing 421 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: and particular and a few others really taking a hit 422 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: with this economy. Now, do you think it's the economy? 423 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Do you think it's you know, it's not like it 424 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: when we were coming up, right, it was you know, 425 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: you could you could go by an old camaro or 426 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: an old something and go drag racing and spend you know, 427 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars and you're there. Now it's very competitive, 428 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: it's very costly. Uh, you know in the kids today, 429 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: they don't have that kind of money. They're they're you know, 430 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: they're just it's it's just out of proportion, I think, 431 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: and it's just killing the sport in my opinion. What 432 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: do you say? Definitely one of the issues it certainly 433 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: is to do it correctly and and you know, the 434 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: junkyards and used parts that, like you say, when we 435 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: grew up aren't there. So to do it correctly now 436 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: it does take a lot more money, and there's also 437 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: just a lot more things for today's kids to do 438 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: besides cars, So that has taken a little bit away 439 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: from it. Also, you know what started this conversation today 440 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: is and it's it's not that it's a a a 441 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: local track to New Jersey. English Town Raceway Park has 442 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: decided to suspend drag racing period, right, that's no more. Um. 443 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: They're keeping fortunately, they're going to keep the the the 444 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: motorsport part of it where they're gonna do the uh 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: the tuner ours. I think Ron phillis and tell us 446 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: what's going on down there. Yeah, I mean it's it's grown. 447 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: It did start. You know, we're going back nine on. 448 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: Raceway Park opened here in New Jersey and it was 449 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: one of the few drag strips in the area and 450 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: grew to be one of the big national event holding 451 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: drag strips, a real premier facility. But then it also 452 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: expanded into a drift track and a dirt bike track 453 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: and some carding and a few other things. And unfortunately, 454 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: now the big announcement has come out that after fifty 455 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: two years, the drag racing inn can no longer support 456 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: itself financially, and the owners have decided to close that 457 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: part of the racetrack, and and and and and and 458 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: there's that sign of the times, and you say to yourself, 459 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: why does a premier shop like Simon k get to 460 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: that point where you know the decision has to be made? Um, 461 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, Raceway Park gets to that point where the 462 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: decision has to be made at L has the issue 463 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: where maybe they're not seeing the motorsports sales that they 464 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: once saw. You know, is that segment of the industry 465 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: shrinking at least in certain parts of the country. That 466 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: could be true. Oh, absolutely, there's no doubt about it. 467 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any one factor. I know 468 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: a lot of racers have been on the internet and 469 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: they're really been a little rough and hard on the 470 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: Nap family that runs Raceway Park for closing it. But 471 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: looking at it from their side, and granted I raced 472 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: there too, but I am grateful to have done it 473 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: for the years that they were open at such a 474 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: great facility. Looking at it from a business side, at 475 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day that still has to turn 476 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: the profits. Everybody there can take a paycheck and feed 477 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: their family. Now, how do you think this affects n 478 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: h R A, which is really you know, not not 479 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: that I don't enjoys talking to you. But one of 480 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: the main reasons I brought you up here today is, 481 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: you know, we've got to think of you know, Englishtown 482 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Raceway Park as one of therese what ten national tracks 483 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: in HR holds national events at right now, there's nine. Well, 484 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: they actually go to twenty four during the year, twenty 485 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: four big racist national events, and that drops to twenty three. 486 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: And although people would say, hey, crosl Finglestown and let's 487 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: just go twenty three since this year and have a season, 488 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: the problem is all the corporate sponsors and the sponsors 489 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: on the covers paid to be at twenty four races 490 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: and want to be in the New York metro area 491 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: where there's a lot of exposure. So they have to 492 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: figure out a way to handle that and goodbye. So 493 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: keep all the money happy and and and how do 494 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: you think they do that? I guess they do they 495 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: move it to atco Do they move it? Do they 496 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: create a track? I mean, you can't create a track 497 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: out of thin air. Well, that's true. There's there's definitely 498 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: not going to be any new tracks opening, especially out 499 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: in this area. So they have to find a close 500 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: enough track that can handle it. And I think the 501 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: two big choices are either going to be a second 502 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: event at maple Grove Raceway, which is a reading PA, 503 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: or possibly a second event at Epping which is up 504 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. So either one of them could do it. 505 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, your your your best memory of 506 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: Raceway Park real quick? What is it? Best memory would 507 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: have to be And granted that racing about four lasses there, 508 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: but would be uh, my wife and my in laws 509 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: sitting in the stands one day, the one time that 510 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: came to watch me race, I manage you go seven 511 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: rounds and super Pro wouldn't the big race that day 512 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: and that was huge. Yeah, yeah, you know what. And 513 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: that's why they call them memories, right and hopefully for 514 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: all good ones and yeah they're good and you just, 515 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta move on. Life changes, so that's 516 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: part of the experience. Hey, Mr Russ, let me give 517 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: a plug to a t L if the listeners want to, um, 518 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody out there is doing some dirt 519 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: track or modified or maybe somebody wants to take their 520 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: fishing boat out further. Um, where can they get more 521 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: information about a t L. Oh? Absolutely check out our website. 522 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: It's a t l inc i n C dot com. 523 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Definitely check out our Facebook page. There are really cool 524 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: videos of inside how we manufacture and in use, and 525 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: just a lot of good general information. Is it Is 526 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: it a t l ink or a t l fuel cells? Well, 527 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: you can't get to it either one. T INC is 528 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: the main site. Gotcha. Hey, listen, you have a good 529 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: week and maybe I'll catch up with you midweek or so. 530 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, we'll see you for breakfast. Thanks. Thanks, Ron, 531 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: You take good care. Um. Yeah, that's you know, we 532 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: and for everybody out there, we know this is a 533 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: national show. You're saying, Hey, you know Raceway Park, no 534 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: big deal. What does it mean to the guy in California? 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: What it means to the guy in California is as 536 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Ron said, And I thought it was ten, but there's nine. Um, 537 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: it's twenty four. So you're now short one race track, 538 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, is one of our race tracks is missing. Um, 539 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: we've got to do a very quick juggle and adjustment 540 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: in order to get the racing schedule back up to 541 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be. And my fear is this 542 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: is the beginning of what might become something very common 543 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: here in the Northeast as as drag racing continues to 544 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: take the hits and uh, you know, not looked upon 545 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: favorably and not supported because of so many factors. So anyway, 546 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: eight five zero nine zero zero, I'm on any of 547 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. This 548 00:27:52,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: car is automatic, it's systematic, it's hard romat what's breeze lightning? Hey, 549 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: welcome back when the car doctor zero nine zero, let's 550 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: go and talk to Mike Portland Maino six Dodge Stratus 551 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: and some tips on a water pump replacement. I love tips, Mike, 552 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: so good brothers lay it on me. What do you got? Um, Well, basically, 553 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: make a long story short. I was calling in because 554 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago you're talking about water pumps 555 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: and that reminded me of my daughter's a lot of 556 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: pumps I did on her two thousand six dollars Stratus. 557 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: But basically, um, just a good tip on how to drain, 558 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: on how to get at the drain plug on the radiator. Um. 559 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Everyone on YouTube tried all kinds of things, channel locks 560 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: and adjustable pliers and all, you know, all screw drivers 561 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: and the strongest thing as you could find. And nobody 562 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: could really get a handle on taking that drain plug loose. 563 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: But basically all I did was I used like a 564 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: fifteen millimeter sock it right in a quarter inch ratchet 565 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: um and it kind of took a few turns you know, 566 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: here and there to get that drain plug loose. But 567 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: most people on YouTube is basically ripped out one of 568 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: the cool and poses, and of course that creates a 569 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: big mess. Yeah, well so that's a that's a good tip. 570 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: I thought, I appreciate it. Now, let me let me 571 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: ask you this. Does the pet cock have an ear 572 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: on it? Or is it just a fifteen millimeter hes uh, No, 573 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: it does have the air the ear because the other thing. 574 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: The other thing you can do, all right, is find 575 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: an older socket that you don't care about and cut 576 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: a slice in it. Okay, and that will work too. Now. 577 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: The other thing is and the other thing to be 578 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: aware of it is depending upon how many radiators you're 579 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: repair in a lifetime, is they do make a socket 580 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: a pet cock socket. It's got it's got the wide 581 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: groove in it, it's got a couple of steps in it, 582 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, it was probably all of fifty bucks 583 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: you know years ago. Um, yeah, you know that works 584 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: well too. But I get it, and you know what, 585 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: I like the way you're thinking because I like working 586 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: clean meating this constant and in this water pump. It 587 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: is inside the engine block driven by the timing change. Yeah, 588 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: so all that has to come apart. It's a real thrill. Yeah, 589 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: it's quote into the book. It's eight hours. But um, 590 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: you know I I worked on a piece by piece, 591 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: and there's a few things I would have done differently. Um, 592 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: because when you lower the transmission, UM, I probably would 593 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: have done that a little differently to get the back 594 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: valve cover off. Um. So anyways, but but another good 595 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: thing is, um, don't don't put that back together until 596 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: you're sure that the nose of the water pump will 597 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: stin freely. Because the water pump I got Uh. When 598 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: I was laying on my back looking up at the 599 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: water pump, I just thought, okay, well when I just 600 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: reach up there and spin the nose of the water 601 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: pump before I talked down the ten millimeter boats And 602 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it, but it was binding because the 603 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: housing was tweaked. That's right, that's right. So even though 604 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: it's spun free in your hand, right, But but it 605 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: was binding inside the engine block and that would have 606 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: been uh oops, just after due over again. You always 607 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: want to you always want to check it as it 608 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: You always want to check it as it's um as 609 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: as as it's being operated right, because that tells you, 610 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: that tells you the real story of what's going on. 611 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Um so. But um yeah. Hey listen, Mike. I appreciate 612 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the call, and I appreciate the tips as well as 613 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the other listeners, and thanks for being part of the 614 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Nation. I appreciate it very much. Let's pull 615 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: over and take a pause. Zero, We're coming right back 616 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. Welcome back any of the 617 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Thanks for being part of it. This hour 618 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: and more. Information is always at car Doctor show dot com, 619 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: podcasting and all the usual stuff there. Remember if you're podcasting, 620 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: if you're depending on how you're going about it. If 621 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: you have the option to subscribe, please click subscribe. We 622 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it it helps us. Let's go and talk to 623 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Sam in Minneapolis two thousand, jeep Cherokee and some temperature problems. 624 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Hey Sam, welcome to the Car Doctor sir. How can 625 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: I help there? On yes, sir, Um, Like I said 626 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: at a two thousand Cherokee here, you know the inline 627 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: for inline six LA four leader the UH stoner starts 628 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: right at the front there. And I was assuming, you know, 629 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: with the with this cold weather we have up here, 630 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I'll be driving down the road, 631 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: opera normal operating tempts to ten. I'll look down all 632 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden the temp will be at like one 633 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: fifty one seventy and I'll put my hand on at 634 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the floor. Event keeps still coming out nice and fine. 635 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I'll get to work, bring it inside. Check the cool 636 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: and cooling is good, operator hose is nice and hot 637 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: and hard, and pressure is good, and you know, let 638 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: it cool down. And I checked the radiator radiator spoils. 639 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Um. I put a piece of cardboard 640 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: in front, made it seem like it was a diesel, 641 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: and it brought the didn't let the temperature go down 642 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: haves far, but it still did it. Um. Do you 643 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: think it's you know, a faulty sensor too cold? I 644 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: think you got to do more testing. First of all, 645 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: it's an O B D. It's a it's an O 646 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: B D two vehicle, all right. You know it's got 647 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 1: onboard diagnostics too. It's you know, since nine, they all 648 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: have it. If engine temp was too cold, you would 649 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: see a p zero zero depending upon manufacturer, engine temp 650 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: below spec. Uh. You know, obviously, one of the places 651 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: we go is, let's go just see do we have 652 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: any do we have a pending fault to set one 653 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: of those possible codes, And if we don't, then we 654 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: can believe that regardless of what the mechanical gauge on 655 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: the dashboard or the electric mechanical gauge on the dashboard 656 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: is seeing, the on computer is happy with with temperature 657 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: being what it is. All right, um O O B 658 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: D two is my life in the terms that that 659 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: governs what and how I fixed the car? All right? 660 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: If if you said to me, hey, ron, it runs 661 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: one fifty and my heat is uh, even if you 662 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: said to me the heat is good and it turned 663 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: on the check engine light, I'd be I'd be a 664 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: little bit more concerned. Uh. You know, I've got to 665 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: sit here and take a look at this and say, well, 666 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: the next step for me would be what does a 667 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: scan tool tell me? Because I'm not gonna trust the 668 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: gauge on the car that's eighteen years old. You know, 669 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: that's an approximation to me. You know, I'll give one 670 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: to you the hot rod right fifty five shiv the 671 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: thing I did the frame half on three years ago, 672 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: four years ago. Um, that's got a strictly mechanical gauge 673 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: Stewart Warner mechanical gauge. I'll see temperature fluctuation in that. 674 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: I can actually watch and tell you when the thermostat opens, 675 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: because I'll see that even in warm weather, warm more cold, 676 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: I'll watch it and I'll see the temperature creep up. 677 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: It'll hit two oh five to ten thermostat and it 678 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: will drop down to about one sixty, and then within 679 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: the next four to six minutes it'll settle upright at 680 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: about one two where it's supposed to be, you know. 681 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's a very quick, very fast acting, very accurate 682 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: mechanical gauge. My point is, I don't put that much 683 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: authority in an electric gage. I'd want to see what 684 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: a scan tool saying, I want to maybe use an 685 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: infrared gun and actually see what's my temperature at. I 686 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: would not put a piece of cardboard in front of 687 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: the radiator because I I would be weary or leary 688 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: of creating another problem when there isn't one. So let's 689 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: do this. Let's put a temperature a small thermometer in 690 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: the temp duct and see how the heat is really 691 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: affected by temperature. And let's scan it for coach and 692 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: see if we see anything else, I'll run any car doctor. 693 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: The mechanics are expensive. The price this p