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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to go over tonight around the league, around the

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Speaker 1: building at RG Stadium. That's where we are, the Hyundai

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. Mark vandermir, John Harris with you, joined

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Speaker 1: in person by the General, John.

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Speaker 2: McClain in general.

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Speaker 1: And we all met Nick Keley today if we hadn't

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Speaker 1: met him already, the new offensive coordinator for the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: so that happened. In fact, we're gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: visit with him a little bit later on, so look

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Speaker 1: forward to that new OC. But the OG General is

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Speaker 1: with us, John McClain. What did you think of meeting

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Speaker 1: Nick Keyley.

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Speaker 3: I thought that he has unbelievable energy, and a couple

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Speaker 3: of times I closed my eyes and I could hear

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay. He's got mcvay's type of personality, Thank goodness.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have Bill Belichick's type of personality. He coached

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Speaker 3: aner Bill, of course, but I could just hear McVeigh.

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Speaker 3: And I talked to some coaches that go again, it's

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Speaker 3: McVeigh and they said that the hallmark of his offense,

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's going to be that here, And they

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Speaker 3: can't say that, but is it's all about motion and

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Speaker 3: how McVeigh believes by using motion you can tell what

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Speaker 3: the defense is doing. And it puts a lot of

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Speaker 3: pressure on the quarterback because he's got to recognize it

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Speaker 3: and adjust accordingly. And so it can't wait to see

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Speaker 3: how that dynamic plays out. And to me, he's not

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Speaker 3: the coach under the most pressure. That's the offensive line coach,

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Speaker 3: and that would be Kole Popovich who was promoted. So

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Speaker 3: they know each other very well from working together in

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Speaker 3: New England. Can't wait to see how it works out.

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Speaker 3: We won't know for sure till they play their first game,

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Speaker 3: but he Nick Kayley is a very very impressive talker

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Speaker 3: and one of the things I like about him, he's

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Speaker 3: from Canton. He was interning at the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: when he met his wife who was there and the

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Speaker 3: rest is history. So he's really fired up to be

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Speaker 3: down here and he should be because to Miko, Lee's

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator alone, he wants to know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Of course, but that's Nick Cayley's baby, and of course

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Speaker 3: you know he'd like to be a coach someday.

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Speaker 4: General let's rewind a little bit because I don't know

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Speaker 4: that we've talked to you since the decision was made

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Speaker 4: to relieve Bobby as the offensive coordinator. So let's start

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Speaker 4: there with the decision to relieve Bobby and we'll get

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Speaker 4: to Nick obviously. But your thoughts about Bobby Slowick being

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Speaker 4: removed from that role. I know you had talked about this, well,

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Speaker 4: do off the air with us, your thoughts about that happening.

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Speaker 4: You were pretty sure that was going to happen. What

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Speaker 4: I remember talking to you about it your thoughts about

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Speaker 4: Bobby being removed from that position, and then the challenge

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Speaker 4: that Nick is going to face and one of the

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Speaker 4: things he has to do to make this decision right

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Speaker 4: for Demko on his team.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Bobby is a good coach and I'm

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Speaker 3: glad Mike McDaniel hired him the reunited being with Demko

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Speaker 3: and Kyle Shanahan on his staff with the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: and Bobby did a tremendous chop in first year. This year,

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Speaker 3: it's weird. They finished ten and seven in regular season

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Speaker 3: five points. And he got fired. And I asked Amko

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Speaker 3: hard because that's one of his best friends. And I

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Speaker 3: was told years ago a first time coach is worst

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Speaker 3: and the ones can figure it out. You got to

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Speaker 3: make hard decisions with your friends are the ones that

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Speaker 3: if the best chance to succeed. And I think Bobby

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Speaker 2: A head coach.

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Speaker 3: But the fact is the offense was out at sink

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Speaker 3: all season and it starts up front. If they don't

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Speaker 3: they're going to just be spinning their wheels.

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Speaker 2: And Demiko knows that. Nick Kaylee, he knows that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking really looking forward to win they get

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a thought on that real fast.

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Speaker 4: I feel like and going back and watching the games,

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Speaker 4: I feel like the biggest issue with the offensive line

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Speaker 4: be part of it, John, is that they know what

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Speaker 4: how they're going to protect it. They know what this look.

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Speaker 4: This is how they're going to to protect it. But

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Speaker 4: I think I heard Seth say it that they gave

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Speaker 4: up more pressures to and I can't remember how he

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Speaker 4: all the time. And look, I'm not there was plenty

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Speaker 4: it happened numerous times throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: In the Minnesota game, is the same.

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Speaker 4: Way, guys came free too often, And to me, Nick Hayley,

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Speaker 4: Knowing who to block ends up being the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: Okay, well it was in twenty twenty three they didn't

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Speaker 3: the personnel could be you know, it was look poor

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Speaker 3: coaching to me, poor playing.

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Speaker 2: And they also saying was bad.

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Speaker 4: They also saw different things in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 2: And they didn't adjust. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things to keep in mind the

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Speaker 3: collective baring agreement in which you can't put on a

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Speaker 3: pad in the off season. You can't eat it. Offensive

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Speaker 3: They need that, especially with a new coach or new players,

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Speaker 3: and you can walk through all the time and they

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Speaker 3: know exactly what to do. But then if you can't

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Speaker 3: why they got their work cut out because all this

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Speaker 3: Give me a break, where was Nico taking take deal

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Speaker 3: step on digs? They need off not a tackle. They

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Speaker 3: first round unless there's nobody there or there's a defensive

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Speaker 2: Round, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: To your point, how many times do I see This

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Speaker 1: is a rhetorical question. Do I see any quarterback and

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Speaker 1: I'll see a guy want lined up wide and he

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Speaker 1: nobody to block that guy, so he's coming. So what

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Speaker 1: am I going to do about that? That guy's probably

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Speaker 1: not dropping. It's an obvious pass rush situation. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be ready for that. This goes back to me too,

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Speaker 1: Matt shab and Cam Chancellor in twenty thirteen. When you

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Speaker 1: quarterback either got to change the protection or bang a

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Speaker 1: time out if you have any available at that particular

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Speaker 1: junction of the game. But General, you mentioned it first

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Speaker 1: But it's affected whoever they do select or don't buy

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Speaker 1: what they do at wide receiver in free agency, and

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Speaker 1: an immediate decision is coming up on Stefan Diggs decision

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Speaker 1: on both parties. Part I would imagine, But what do

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Speaker 1: you think happens with Diggs because we have that Monday

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Speaker 3: By the way, two stats blew me away. Detections had

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Speaker 3: times at least one lineman was beaten at the snap

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Speaker 3: forty one percent of the time, most in the league.

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Speaker 2: I would want Diggs back.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna get big money somewhere else coming off

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Speaker 3: he did a great job of leading. He knows he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna get big bucks. I hope they're re sign

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Speaker 3: him because if they don't, they're gonna have to sign

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Speaker 3: another veteran. They got cap problems right now. Nick Cassaria's

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Speaker 3: got a lot of work to do to free up

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Speaker 3: just not in the first round and uh. And then

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Speaker 3: a great quarterback who has time to throw can make

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Speaker 2: Time to do that. Every time I watch my owns

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, let you feel like the other the

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Speaker 2: General didn't have time to get the ball to anybody. General.

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Speaker 4: I wan't to go back to your thoughts about the

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Speaker 4: Mark get your thoughts that if they don't have a

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Speaker 4: move things around to find some money. If they were

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Speaker 4: with Titus. So it's kind a two part question. What

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Speaker 4: do you think they do with Titus? And if they

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Titus is not going to be

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Speaker 3: him in the second round.

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Speaker 2: So you think Titus is guard going.

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Speaker 3: Think Titus is a guard going forward. And I think

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Speaker 3: Shaq Mason's job ought to be in jeopardy and they

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Speaker 3: need they need. I'd bring in a young guy no

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Speaker 3: matter where he was drafted, and a veteran and could

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Speaker 3: be somebody's with the Rams. You know, we need to

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Speaker 3: Patriots and see what guy's contracts could be expiring.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that.

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Speaker 3: I think Serio is shrewd enough he and his financial

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Speaker 1: You know, Stroud has been remarkably healthy overall through his

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Speaker 1: The fact that Demiko and Stroud both win a playoff game. Well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez would be another duo.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see if Kaylee utilizes Stroud's running

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Speaker 2: And playoff game run was amazing.

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Speaker 3: And Matthew Stafford's not going to run, of course, but

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Speaker 3: I'll bet you that Kaylee, now that he sees how

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Speaker 2: You think of that too, That would be the good thing.

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Speaker 3: You're not letting him say, well, I want this guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 4: General, we haven't talked to you since a lot of

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Speaker 3: They just need They need a lot, but they especially

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Speaker 3: New England was my favorite. Ire Brian Schottenneimer was my

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Speaker 2: Right now because of the caps that you cap situation.

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Speaker 3: the odds are like Ben Johnson going back, you would

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Speaker 2: But he's thirty five years old.

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Speaker 3: You know there's a good chance he, if he's good enough,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be in a situation where you

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Speaker 2: In fact, I don't know where he is.

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Speaker 4: But if he gets him back to seven to eight wins,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they're gonna do it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they can keep going with Derek Carr.

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Speaker 4: And that is going to be a tough, tough, tough

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know about that here.

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Speaker 4: And I think Kellen Moore has a little different personality

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Speaker 2: I think New Orleans. I think New Orleans is gonna

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Speaker 4: I just think you guys are right. I think it's

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Speaker 4: not as if the NFC South is a gamebusters. You

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Speaker 3: The assistant coach that got me the most was a

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Speaker 3: Chip Kelly. And I'm wondering if Will Howard will be

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Speaker 3: And because by the time the process over, everybody's gonna

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Speaker 2: Time for Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: Not I where they're picking six, But it's amazing, and

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Speaker 2: It's that way.

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Speaker 3: Next year looks like it's gonna be a better draft

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Speaker 2: You don't know anything.

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Speaker 4: Now, a pretty good crop of quarterbacks beyond our spanning too,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one note here on the Chip Kelly situation and

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Speaker 1: Carrol Mark Davis and put hard Knocks cameras in for

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Speaker 2: Please do it. I mean, I just want to see

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Speaker 1: So the report this morning that the Pittsburgh Steelers called

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Speaker 3: You buying, Well, you call teams called teams all the

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Speaker 2: Called him, and I'm buying it.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Tomlin said no, well, no, no, no, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would listen if they're willing to take Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: Takes a huge dead cap hit, no way Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: The whole reason they wanted Cohen is so they hope

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: Look the way he did with Will Levis when he

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Speaker 3: And I'm surprised he got a job so fast. I

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Speaker 3: Rogers, Mike tom and Aaron Rodgers And one time, one

440
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Speaker 3: thing I hear people saying, what does it matter if

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Speaker 3: he goes on Pat McAfee. Well, I watch him every

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Speaker 3: week on there, tape it and every time he's asked

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Speaker 3: a question, he answers honestly, and a lot of times

444
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Speaker 3: it creates controversy. So he goes back to work Wednesday

445
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: and everything is about what he said on TV, not

446
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: as much as it is about the game. It's just

447
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: not good for your culture. If you're trying to build

448
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Speaker 3: a good, strong culture, you don't want your quarterback creating

449
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 3: controversy every week. You don't want him going into the darkness.

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Speaker 3: You don't want him going to Egypt. And the thing

451
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Speaker 3: if you don want to make fifty million a year

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Speaker 3: and you have a vacation plan to go to Egypt

453
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Speaker 3: and you find out two months before your vacation that

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Speaker 3: you're having your mandatory mini camp, can't you change your vacation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can change your vacation.

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Speaker 1: But if you had a private tour of the pyramids

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Speaker 1: set up and you were going to levitate with the

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Speaker 1: spirits of the great Pharaohs or whatever, maybe.

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Speaker 4: The ayahuasca in Egypt is better at that time and

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Speaker 4: probably really in season.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe I see it. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's just inflexible and now he's looking for

463
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Speaker 4: a job. Okay, this is where both of you guys.

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Speaker 4: There's a name that keeps popping in my head when

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Speaker 4: I think about free agent quarterbacks, and I don't know

466
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Speaker 4: where he should go in Pittsburgh is I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I know there's somebody listening, one of our good friends

468
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Speaker 4: that would not like this. But Sam Donald, Where does

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Speaker 4: Sam Donald start in twenty twenty five? You think so?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, franchise tag or in a short contract.

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Speaker 1: You think that's the best deal.

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Speaker 2: So they don't know JJ McCarthy can play.

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Speaker 1: They don't, But I think they're willing to take that

475
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Speaker 1: chance right now after they've been to this twice. Now,

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Speaker 1: they win all those games with Kirk Cousins and they

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Speaker 1: exit in the first round to the Giants, then they

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Speaker 1: win all those games with Donald out fast at Arizona

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. I think they're willing to take their

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Speaker 1: lumps with JJ McCarthy. What if we win nine or

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Speaker 1: ten or eleven. As long as we make it to the.

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Speaker 3: Raiders, he'll be the hottest court. He'll be the hottest

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Speaker 3: quarterback on the market.

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Speaker 2: Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, so he'll be the hottest quarterback on the saying

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Speaker 1: something about the market.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, would you look at Sam Darnold

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Speaker 2: or no, of course you would look at him.

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Speaker 3: But boy, going to the Steelers and their philosophy of

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Speaker 3: throwing the ball the way they do, and you got

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Speaker 3: George Pickins who's nothing but a pain in the ass

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Speaker 3: compared to Justin Jefferson and the weapons that he had there.

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Speaker 3: I just think he's going to be back there. I

494
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Speaker 3: don't think they're going to put all their eggs in

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Speaker 3: McCarthy's basket. And one of the reasons is how well

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Speaker 3: he played till the last game. Do you judge anybody

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Speaker 3: on the last two games, well, after they've been great

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Speaker 3: for an entire set.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you do, if it's had you do, Patrick mahomes No, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean taking it literally. Yeah, but I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: But you judge darn because you've seen both sides of it, right,

502
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Speaker 1: But you.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen Donald play it, not even a mahomesol.

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Speaker 4: You haven't seen Donald play at that high level when

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00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: the game is that important regular season.

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Speaker 1: That success is funny in a strange way because they.

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Speaker 2: Had a great ride.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings had a great ride most of the year,

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Speaker 1: The Lions had a tremendous ride, The Packers had a

510
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Speaker 1: pretty good ride, and they all go out.

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Speaker 2: The whole division goes OUTFC South won more playoff games

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Speaker 2: in the NFC North. How about the best division in football?

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Speaker 2: How about them Apples? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: See, yeah, we went one and three against the division,

515
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Speaker 4: so you know, gotta be careful against the North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, game and nobody in the North did.

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Speaker 1: When you're you win your playoff games, some good things

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Speaker 1: can happen. By the way, shout out to t J.

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Speaker 1: Yeats now past game coordinator for the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: So you get up a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: Still quarterback coach too, Yeah, so that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: nice title of coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you will, absolutely, that'd be nice.

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Speaker 1: And our buddy Dave Dgon is still in LA with

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Speaker 1: the Rams quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's doing in LA now. Yeah, we're going. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I liked about the Rams offense

528
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Speaker 3: so balanced and they're receivers. They like the bigger guys

529
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Speaker 3: on the outside because they got a block so much.

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Speaker 3: Not just to tempting, but the way McVeigh runs that offense.

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Speaker 3: If you got a wide receiver or tight end that

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Speaker 3: can block, you're not playing.

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Speaker 2: That's Robert Woods's fault.

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Speaker 4: When McVeigh got to LA, I asked this, nik kill

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Speaker 4: you hear this in a little bit on our interview

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Speaker 4: with him, that you know that the ability is huge

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Speaker 4: because McVeigh went there and thought we're gonna be a

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Speaker 4: eleven personnel team won one running back, one tight end,

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Speaker 4: through wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're going to be.

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Speaker 4: He got there and he's got Cooper Cup and he's

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Speaker 4: got Robert Woods, and they knock your block off in

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Speaker 4: the run game. And it basically showed McVeigh like, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I think I need to change how we do this

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Speaker 4: offense because I need to have those two guys on

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Speaker 4: the field as much as possible because how they they

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Speaker 4: block in the run game. So you know, Robert Woods

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Speaker 4: was one of the main reasons of why that RAM like.

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Speaker 3: Coaches that are adaptable and don't force somebody to do

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Speaker 3: what I want you to do.

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Speaker 1: General a couple of questions beyond the blue lot here

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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman going to the Boston boat socks.

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Speaker 3: We knew he was gone and all that stuff about

554
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: he might come back to the Astros. That was Scott

555
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: Boris leaking it to the media to try to get

556
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Speaker 3: Boston in Toronto and Chicago and Detroit up to any

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Speaker 3: I can't believe they gave him an opt out after

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Speaker 3: each season. I saw a great stat he has two

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Speaker 3: hundred ten career homers and he played every game at

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Speaker 3: Mini May Park. He'd have two hundred nineteen. If he'd

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00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: played every game at Finway, he'd have one hundred and ninety.

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Speaker 3: Because he doesn't launch home runs. He has line drives,

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Speaker 3: so he's going to be in a lot of balls

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Speaker 3: off the monster, and he doesn't have opposite phild home

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Speaker 3: runs either.

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Speaker 4: General, the one thing that stood out to me was

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Speaker 4: the fact that his contract he's getting from Boston, all

568
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: bit shorter, is ten million dollars per year above any

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Speaker 4: other offer he got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but now he's got a chance to double down

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Speaker 2: on that. No, I know. I like this from an

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Speaker 2: ownershift stamp.

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Speaker 4: Boston standpoint for Red Sox standpoint if you knew the

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Speaker 4: Red Sox are like, we're gonna give him three years

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Speaker 4: one twenty, Hey, Joe, these are their teams. Aren't giving

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Speaker 4: close to thirty That's okay. We'll give him forty million

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00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 4: for three years. Like, it's just shocking to me that

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00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: he got that much more.

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Speaker 2: He gives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a good year, it's back to the

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Speaker 1: negotiating table.

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Speaker 3: What are the odds. He's a notorious slow starter, and

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Speaker 3: that's in warm weather, playing home games indoors. He's gonna

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00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: go up there. Where's Cole April May. He gets off

585
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: to a slow start, like he does every year, they're

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00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: gonna boo the all out of him and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: blast him in the media.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more for you, because we used to

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Speaker 1: talk about movies a lot, but it feels like I

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00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: don't know the movie industry.

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Speaker 2: It's not what it was. We all know that, go

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Speaker 2: to the movies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So general, are you watching a lot of these

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Speaker 1: great TV shows like Landman and shows like that All

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Speaker 1: the Landman's Okay? What else do you like? What could

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Speaker 1: you recommend for people I.

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Speaker 2: Don't have.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, I still watch a lot of shows. I

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00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: tape them and watch them at night. I like all

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Speaker 3: the Fbis, I like the All the One Chicago's, and

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Speaker 3: I like Tracker. But the movies, there's one coming out

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Speaker 3: and I like Scripts that I haven't seen before. It's

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Speaker 3: with Miles Taylor, one of my favorite actors, and Anya

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Speaker 3: Taylor Joy. And he is in the military and a

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Speaker 3: long timer and he gets called in by somebody from

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Speaker 3: the Senate and they want to send him out in

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Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere for like six months to a year.

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Speaker 3: And he has one job to do, and he says,

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Speaker 3: all right, I'll do it. They take him out where

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00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: it's foggy in the mountains, and then he's in this

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Speaker 3: like steel house and he's supposed to keep watch over

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Speaker 3: a gorge.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me. Turns out way on the other side is

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Speaker 2: another one, and it's a woman on Anya Taylor George,

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Speaker 2: and so they get lonely.

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Speaker 3: They puts when the fog clears, put messages to each

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Speaker 3: other up on paper, and then he decides he wants

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Speaker 3: to go across the gorge, and somebody tells him that

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Speaker 3: he's connected to what is in the gorge anyway. He said,

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Speaker 3: the gate to Hell. In other words, you don't want

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Speaker 3: to go down there. So he's trying to get over

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Speaker 3: to her. Of course it breaks. Of course, he goes

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Speaker 3: down into Hell. She's in love without ever talking to him.

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00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: She puts on her parachute, gets all her big weapons,

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Speaker 3: takes off parachutes down, finds him, and then the rest.

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Speaker 3: I guess they're waiting on the devil that comes out tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a great Valentine Wow, sounds great great Valentine's

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Speaker 3: Day movie. Really nice? All right, General, thanks a lot for.

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Speaker 2: Choking you guys very much.

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Speaker 1: Coming up Nick Kelly, offensive coordinator right here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, it was great to have the general in

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Speaker 1: studio with us. And speaking of in studio, Nick Kelly,

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Speaker 1: the new guy offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: You might know his background.

635
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: He's been with the Rams, most recently as tight ends

636
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Speaker 1: coach and passing game coordinator, before that with the New

637
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Speaker 1: England Patriots up through twenty twenty two. He started his

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Speaker 1: stint in New England in twenty fifteen, so he was

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Speaker 1: there for a while. Bunch of college stops Florida, Atlantic,

640
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: Arkansas before that, Eastern Illinois, Auburn back in the day.

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Speaker 1: He's a John Carroll product, as is Nick Cassario, Frank Ross,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, among many others. We'll get to that. Here's

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Speaker 1: our visit with Nick Cayley coach. Welcome, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell us, I want to start here. What's the

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Speaker 1: first order of business for you? Pouring over game footage,

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Speaker 1: making plans for twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 2: How do you go about your business?

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Speaker 6: Initially, yeah, probably getting my laptop set up and getting

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Speaker 6: on the box a few boxes I had unpacked. But

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Speaker 6: in all seriousness, just you know, really getting with the staff,

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Speaker 6: kind of getting organized here in the first couple of

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Speaker 6: days that I've been in town. And then obviously you know,

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Speaker 6: getting through some tape already, you know, got to jump

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Speaker 6: on some of that, but you know, trying to move

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Speaker 6: forward that day by day.

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Speaker 4: Nick heard different coordinators head coaches talk about this when

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Speaker 4: they take over in a different location. Some of them

659
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: want to see everything that happened in twenty twenty three

660
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: or the previous year twenty twenty four. Some are like, Nope,

661
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 4: starting brand new. How do you kind of dive in

662
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: as the offensive coordinator? Do you want to watch everything

663
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: from last year? Do you want to get a beat

664
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: on it? Or you're just coming in fresh. This is

665
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 4: what I want to do and this is how we're

666
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: gonna do it. We'll take some of those things, but

667
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't really want to dive into last year much.

668
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: Yea.

669
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing is just getting a feel

670
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 6: for the players, what their straints are, what their play

671
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: style is, and just you know, how you know, we

672
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 6: view them in terms of moving forward as a staff

673
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: and how we can use them, you.

674
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: Know, moving forward.

675
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 6: Scheme, scheme, it changes, it evolves, you know, even in

676
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 6: continuous years with the same set of coaches and players.

677
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 6: You know, you will evolve those things from year to year.

678
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody ever stays the same. If you

679
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 6: do that, you'll end.

680
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: Up getting you know, you know, you got to evolve.

681
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 6: So from that standpoint, really, you know, trying to identify

682
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 6: what the players do best and getting a feel for

683
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 6: them and then obviously get them on the grass here

684
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: in a couple of months and get rid of rock

685
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 6: and roll.

686
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of different quarterbacks, Tom Brady,

687
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford.

688
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: What do you see and Cee J. Stroud coach.

689
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: I see a competitor, an ultimate competitor, a guy that

690
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 6: loves football, competes at a high level, has a very

691
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 6: good arm, arm talent, can spin it, He throws accurate,

692
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 6: you know, and he can playoff schedule, and he's instinctive.

693
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of things to really like and

694
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get an opportunity to work with

695
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 6: him and just build a relationship and pave the way

696
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: going forward.

697
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: One of the things Nick, that Mark and I've talked

698
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: about over the years is that tight ends coaches are

699
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: probably the most important coaches, and I'm not kissing up.

700
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: You'll see where I'm going with this in a second.

701
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: But the tight end coaches are so important because they've

702
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: got to be involved in the run game in every

703
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: aspect of the run game.

704
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: They've got to be important to the pass protection.

705
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to be important to the passing game,

706
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, getting out running routes and things like that.

707
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: As the tight end position, you obviously have spent a

708
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: lot of time with it. How important does it become

709
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: to this offense that you want to create here in Houston?

710
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 6: Oh?

711
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: Very important.

712
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: And I think we have an exceptional tight end coach

713
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 6: in Jake Moreland, and really excited to get the word

714
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 6: with him. But yeah, I mean you you know, I

715
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: always I told I've told the guys for a long time.

716
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: You know that.

717
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 6: And it's selfish probably when you're coaching the position. But

718
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 6: that's the straw that serves a drink. Show me a

719
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 6: really physical run game, and I'll show you really physical

720
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: tight ends. And and you know, I think it starts

721
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: an extension of the offensive line to control the line

722
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. When you can affect the game in the

723
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: passing game and you can get got mismatches on safeties, backers,

724
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: et cetera. You can extend guys, you can get open

725
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 6: and catch the ball with size, uh and stature as well.

726
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: Very important. That position is very important to me.

727
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 6: And you know, again I'm you know, maybe a little

728
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: bit biased, but I believe that with with everything in

729
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 6: my being.

730
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned Jake Morland, you've been with Cole Popovich before

731
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: New England. What about working with your assistant coaches coach?

732
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: How's that relationship going to go for you?

733
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: No, it's it's huge.

734
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 6: It's it's it's not one person, it's a staff and

735
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 6: you lean on a staff and you know, we're all

736
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 6: in this together. And I have a lot of trust

737
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: and confidence in all the guys uh here and and

738
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 6: we're all in this together.

739
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's us. It's about us.

740
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: It's about our players, and you know we're we're we're

741
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 6: gonna be you know, connected. From that standpoint, What was

742
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 6: this process like for you, Nick? You know it was

743
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 6: you know, it was, it was great. It everything kind

744
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: of happened fast. You know, you don't ever really I

745
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 6: always try to be present. I've always tried to be

746
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 6: where my feet are really enjoyed our time in Los Angeles,

747
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 6: you know, my family, and you know that was that

748
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: was a hard place to lead because there was a

749
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 6: lot of great people and when you when this opportunity

750
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: opened up, very exciting and very intriguing. So it was

751
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 6: and like I said, it was about the people here,

752
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 6: and I couldn't be more excited to be here, you know,

753
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 6: and and to.

754
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 5: Be with coach Ryan's and this this team and this staff.

755
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: All right.

756
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: So the John Carroll Alumni Association has a lot of

757
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: connections here, all right. So could you discuss that a

758
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: little bit, your relationship with some of the guys who

759
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: have been to that school, because Nick Asario for one,

760
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: and many others, Frank Ross for instance.

761
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of a lot of

762
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: great people, a very good Division III school on the

763
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: east side of Cleveland, with a lot of guys that

764
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: really loved football. And you know, there's a lot of

765
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: people that have paved the way going back to obviously

766
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: Don Shula, et cetera, you know, going back. So it's

767
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 6: a it's a special place and I'm really you know,

768
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 6: it was it shaped me, uh and even my years there,

769
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: I I had always looked and wrote and reached out

770
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 6: and tried to email and just learned from the people

771
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: that had come before me. So it's a special place

772
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 6: and and there's a lot of people that have gone

773
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: through there, and you get a great education.

774
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: And you love football. It's it's a it's a great

775
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: place to go.

776
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula

777
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: about his grandfather?

778
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

779
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely.

780
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 6: And when I was at Florida Atlantic coach in the

781
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 6: second area, I got to meet Coach Shula down you know,

782
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 6: in South Florida when we were playing FIU, And that

783
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 6: was one of the cooler moments. I had never had

784
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 6: an opportunity to to really ever get to meet him,

785
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 6: and I did then, So it was it was pretty cool.

786
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Coach.

787
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: How important And I'm gonna use your your former and

788
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: I'm glad to say former former head coach Sean McVay

789
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: talked about this in a podcast. So when he went

790
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: to LA he thought he was gonna be the eleven

791
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: personnel team, Like that's what he wanted to be.

792
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: That's what he thought he's gonna be.

793
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: He gets there and he's got Robert Woods, and he's

794
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: got Cooper Cupp and He's like, wait a second, I

795
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: think I can kind of be like a twelve team

796
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: because these guys blocked so well as wide receivers, and

797
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: so he kind of adapted and changed for the while.

798
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: So how important is adaptability not just season the season,

799
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: but play to play series a series, game to game.

800
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: How important is that for you?

801
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: That adaptability is a big thing, not staying stubborn to

802
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: what it is that you want to do, but better

803
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: for your team.

804
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's important.

805
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 6: I think you got to be able to adapt, and

806
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: I think it gives you versatility.

807
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: It's not just throwing fastballs fastballs fast.

808
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 6: You got a change up, you got a curve ball,

809
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: you got a slider, and you you do that with

810
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 6: different types of players. You do that with different personnel groupings.

811
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 6: It could be you know, different you know, multiple types

812
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 6: of twelve personnel groupings utilizing different players or heavier personnel,

813
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 6: thirteen or it's eleven and you know, twenty one, et cetera.

814
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 5: Whatever it is. But I think you can do a

815
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: lot of different things.

816
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: And you know present and and you know present some

817
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 6: issues defensively obviously too.

818
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: You like that thirteen personnel, don't you?

819
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: Hey, I've been known to like some thirteen personnel in time.

820
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly what about getting ready to call plays?

821
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: Preparing for that in the offseason?

822
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: How can you do that before you get to the

823
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: starting line in September?

824
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: I know you have preseason games.

825
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well a couple different ways.

826
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 6: Obviously, training the mindset, putting yourself through those processes when

827
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 6: you're going through practice, live, live opportunities to call plays.

828
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: I think all those things, you know, factor into that.

829
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

830
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: Coach you talked in your press conference, you asked about

831
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: you got to New England twenty fifteen, and so you

832
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: had an opportunity to be around Dante Scarneki. Yes, a

833
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 4: lot of people have said he might be the best

834
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: offensive line coach that has existed in the NFL. What

835
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: if he meant to you and what if he meant

836
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: to your career and how you've kind of learned your

837
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: offensive line portion of this.

838
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's meant a lot to me. He's a big

839
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 6: mentor to me. He's always been supportive, and he he

840
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 6: he mastered making some things that could be very complex,

841
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 6: very simple and digestible for guys so that they can

842
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: turn it loose, they can play fast and they're rooted

843
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 6: in fundamentals, and that's what I take from him. And

844
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 6: he has always been a great sounding for not just me,

845
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 6: for a lot of us that have crossed paths with him.

846
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 6: But he's exceptional coach and a lot of respect for him.

847
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: All Right. So Sean McVay has that recall ability. We've

848
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: seen it.

849
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: It's freakish, right, So if we had a game show

850
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: McVeigh versus Belichick with recall of their own games, that'd.

851
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: Be pretty good, right, it'd be it'd be unbelievable.

852
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're honest, are you? Are you like that as well?

853
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: I have some Yeah, I I can draw, you know,

854
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 6: I shot those two are rare.

855
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: There.

856
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 6: There's I have some obscure things, usually football related, that

857
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 6: I can pull from past experiences. But I'd say those

858
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 6: two are, uh, they're rare. They're they're they're elite when

859
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 6: it comes to that.

860
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: You know, this McKinley, Ohio, this McKinley Canton, Ohio situation, Like,

861
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: there are so many coaches, obviously the McDaniels come out

862
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 4: of there, you come.

863
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Out of there, have been so many that have come

864
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: out of there.

865
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: What is it about that particular area, Nick that it's

866
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: become kind of a It's not the cradle of coaches

867
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: like Miami, Ohio, but in some sense it's kind of

868
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 4: is because we've seen so many great coaches and players

869
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: come out of that area.

870
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: What is it about that area?

871
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I m can't Ohio can't. Killy's the high

872
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 6: school did not go to McKinley, just for the record,

873
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 6: but it's a great, great school. That area is Stark County, Ohio.

874
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 6: You know, there's twenty high schools or whatever there. It

875
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 6: is a it The fabric of that community is football,

876
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: and it's blue collar, it's tough people. It's a great place.

877
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 6: And as a kid growing up, you play football on

878
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 6: the street, you played in your backyard, you know, and

879
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 6: and you you dream of playing in those high school stadiums.

880
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: And I think you're influenced by the great coaches we've

881
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 6: had there, and there's a lot of great players. And

882
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: I couldn't have thought dreamt of a better place to

883
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 6: grow up, you know, to be able to be obviously

884
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 6: influenced by the game of football.

885
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: Did you give any thought to doing anything else with

886
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: your life as you were growing up?

887
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Zero, it was coaching all the way.

888
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: I wanted to coach, you haven't been here long, but

889
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: I know you've been kind of locked in and doing

890
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: what you have to do. But just your thoughts on

891
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: the city of Houston and being here. Have you ever

892
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: had much experience in Texas at all than traveling for

893
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 4: games and such?

894
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: Now, what are you thought, you know, just basically being

895
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: here for games, practices, et cetera.

896
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 5: It's there's it's a it's a great city.

897
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 6: There's a lot of energy, there's a lot of things

898
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 6: to do, you know, and there's a lot of places

899
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 6: to go. So I mean it's you know, it's it's

900
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 6: a great city, and you know, excited to find my

901
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 6: way around.

902
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: All right.

903
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: So one more for the fans. What is the Nick

904
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Kelly offense? What can you tell us today about the

905
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: Nick Keley offense?

906
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

907
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: Tough, physical, you know, getting the ball to our playmakers

908
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 6: and being connected and playing smart football and not beating ourselves,

909
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: taking care of the football, being disciplined, uh and competing

910
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: for you know, four plus quarters, however long it takes

911
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 6: us to get the job done.

912
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Sounds great, coach, thanks a lot for joining us, Thanks

913
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Speaker 1: for having me. There's offensive coordinator Nick Kelly now coming

914
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: back John Harris and I will talk about what the

915
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: offense might look like with Nick Keley at the controls,

916
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: among other things here on Texans All Access All Right.

917
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: Final segment here tonight on Texans All Access following the

918
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: general being on the program and Nick Keley the new

919
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: offensive court. Nick Keley, it's two K sounds in a row.

920
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: For some reason, saying Nick Cassario without starting the case

921
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: sound over sounds fine, But Nick Keley sounds like Nick Haley.

922
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: And you have to say, Nick Keley. See, I think

923
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: about these things. I know you have to. I lie

924
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: awake at night.

925
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: I know you about these crazy verbal situations you have to.

926
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

927
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've given more thought to it lately because I

928
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: like I've told people dealing with this Bell's palsy thing,

929
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 4: so words with fright, football, fine, buffet, anything within. They

930
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: it became very tricky to say, well, yeah, kind of.

931
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: It's still not the easiest thing in the world, especially

932
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 4: if I'm talking fast.

933
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: It's flared up for you bad during the last playoff game.

934
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Right exactly right right before the Chargers game. How I deal?

935
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: Really, Oh my gosh, can you imagine being the AFC

936
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: Championship game? Somehow I think the adrenaline would have solved

937
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: the problem.

938
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: Well, the adrenaline got me through the two playoff games

939
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 4: for sure, for sure. But the Chiefs game you were cold,

940
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: would have gotten me through the second one, oh yeah,

941
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 4: would have got me through. Gave me buffalo yeah help,

942
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: the prescription medication. And then again, when you're into cold,

943
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: a lot of times, what happens. Your mouth starts to

944
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: kind of freeze up. I remember Don telling the story

945
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 4: about the Ice Bowl. Don Meredith was in the huddle

946
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: calm plays and it was so cold his mouth basically froze.

947
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: So he would take his hands and he would massage

948
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: his mouth to be able to say what the play

949
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: call was.

950
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: So he's in the Cowboy Ring of Honor. I didn't

951
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: mean to go here right now, but Cowboy Bill emailed

952
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: me about something and I said, oh about Landry or whatever,

953
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I can't forgive that franchise

954
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: for how they've done Danny White. Yeah, not that Danny

955
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: White should be in the Ring of Honor, but anybody

956
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: who thinks Romo should be in over Danny White.

957
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: Listen.

958
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't argue cowboy stuff on Texans Radio much, but Danny.

959
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: White, what would argue? He went to three NFC Championship games,

960
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 2: Romo went to zero.

961
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: You know that's when we didn't talk about too much.

962
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer, head coach.

963
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of crazy. It might work out,

964
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: but here was my thought when they did it. Crazy

965
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: like a fox. Now I'm not saying he is, but

966
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: but as a good head coach, what's the most important

967
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: thing being a great delegator communicator. Maybe he I don't

968
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: think he's a great offensive coordinator, but I don't know

969
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: if you have to be. If you have the right

970
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: guy working for you to run the offense and then

971
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: the defense run well, and maybe you could be a

972
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: great delegator. Look, John Harbaugh is one of the more

973
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: successful head coaches of our era, right correct, And he's

974
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: and we were as we were talking to John McClain,

975
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. He's had to cycle through

976
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. Think about who he's had there

977
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: since he started. It's just been another guy after another guy.

978
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: And he's been having to adjust and adapt on the

979
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: fly here and be a great delegator and communicator. And

980
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: I think he is now. Look he's won one super Bowl. Great,

981
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to win one super Bowl. Start there hasn't

982
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: done much since there, since that he went to the

983
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: AFC Champion Game in twenty three. But you know, he's

984
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of regular season victories and a lot

985
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: of success that way.

986
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: So good for him. Yeah, good for him. I mean,

987
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how it goes.

988
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: I just remember when Schottenheimer was in college, it was

989
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: a big deal because he was at the University of Florida,

990
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: and he went to the University of Florida in particular

991
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: because he wanted to be around Steve Spreer every day.

992
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: And I always thought that that was always something that

993
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: people talked about that he was there at the University

994
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: of Florida for that particular reason. I thought, Okay, I'll

995
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: keep an eye on young Schottenheimer and see what he

996
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: turns into. I don't think he's been a great offensive coordinator, Okay,

997
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: but I do think man, I said, coach him.

998
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see.

999
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: But they definitely didn't win the press conference, that's for sure. No,

1000
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: they did not win when that one. It's not a

1001
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: ticket seller, it's none of that stuff. Not great for

1002
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: your marketing campaign. But they are the cowboys. They'll find

1003
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: a way to get butts in the seats. Never mind them, Johnny,

1004
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: we only got a couple of minutes here, But I

1005
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: want an answer to this question. Has your thought changed

1006
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: adjusted if any, or how has it affected you in

1007
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: interpreting what the Nick Cayley offense is going to be

1008
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: like based on us meeting with Nick and sitting down

1009
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: with him and hearing his press conference and being around

1010
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: him for a couple of hours, I the word I

1011
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: kept coming back to, and that's why I asked him

1012
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: the question about adaptability, because I think adaptability is so

1013
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: big as an offensive coordinator, and I think you can

1014
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 4: look at adaptability.

1015
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: In a number of different ways.

1016
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: And if you look at adaptability and think about what's

1017
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: the opposite of that, and that's being stubborn.

1018
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. We do it this way like you.

1019
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: Have to have standards in how you do things, but

1020
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: you have to be flexible and adaptable and have adaptability

1021
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: to especially an offense in the NFL, because you're gonna

1022
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: see things that you've never seen before. And I think

1023
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: that was kind of the case this year. There are

1024
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: a lot of things that you know, the general kind

1025
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: of brought it up. Well, you know why. In twenty

1026
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: twenty three, was not this way because they were seeing

1027
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: different things than they saw.

1028
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four.

1029
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: Because once teams show you one thing you can't block

1030
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: or you're not accustomed to, or you're gonna see it

1031
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: again and again and again and again, and so you

1032
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: have to be adaptable. And I think that's kind of

1033
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: what I got, is that he's got he's got a

1034
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: passion for this game, as Demiko talked about, but I

1035
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: get the sense that it's adaptable. If duo doesn't work,

1036
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 4: which is kind of a gap scheme, run, hey, let's

1037
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: try wide zone.

1038
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna make work with what we have.

1039
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: We want to do this, but if we don't have that,

1040
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the things you learn

1041
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: when you play at a lower division like Division three

1042
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 4: or like I play in the IVY League, et cetera.

1043
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: You don't always have six seven, three point fifteen left tackle,

1044
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: you know, or you know, a sixty three, two hundred

1045
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: and forty five pounds linebacker runs for three. You don't

1046
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: have all that. So sometimes you have to get creative

1047
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: or you have to be adaptable. You have to look

1048
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: at it and say, man, how do we change, how

1049
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: do we do this? How do we not get beat

1050
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: on this again this particular week. Now, that's not just

1051
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: Nick Keilly, that is Nick Kelly. It's called Popovich. That's

1052
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: Drod Johnson, that's every coach on the offensive staff working

1053
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: together to make sure that works.

1054
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see how it works soon enough. We'll

1055
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: have another show soon enough, Friday night, six o'clock. Don't

1056
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Speaker 1: miss it. Thanks a lot for listening. Area forty five

1057
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Speaker 1: coming up next. Have a great night, Go Texans.