Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: Delto Bowl championship. That should always be the expectation. All right,
Speaker 2: man Ax, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another incredible week,
Speaker 1: inching closer and closer to these playoffs, and a lot
Speaker 1: of things happen this week, a lot of games that
Speaker 1: had some expected outcomes and others not so expected. The
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles lose to the Washington Commanders lose Jalen hurts
Speaker 1: early in that ball game. That's gonna be something to monitor.
Speaker 1: That helped the Washington Commanders. Even the Philadelphia Eagles have
Speaker 1: not yet secured this division yet. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think there's still a chance for the Washington Commanders
Speaker 1: to pull it out. Now it's a long shot because
Speaker 1: the Eagles play Dallas and the Giants to finish the season,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of things that can happen. The
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills had a really crazy from the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: A game that should have been a walk away blowout
Speaker 1: was a dogfight down to the last seconds an on
Speaker 1: sidekick recovered by Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen does not have
Speaker 1: an MVP performance. Mitchell, your Detroit Lions find a way though.
Speaker 3: They're back, and Richard, I'm back, fresh off of laryngitis
Speaker 3: last week. I apologize I missed last week's episodes. Guys,
Speaker 3: I could not talk, and Richard heard me talk on
Speaker 3: the phone. It was not pretty. And I was fired
Speaker 3: up to watch these games. I mean, from a detroiter standpoint,
Speaker 3: I was rooting heavily for your Seattle Seahawks. It looked
Speaker 3: like everything was going right for Seattle. They it's vintage Seattle,
Speaker 3: you know, Geno Smith throwing for over three hundred yards
Speaker 3: and Jackson Smith and Jigba looks like a star in
Speaker 3: the making for the Seattle Seahawks team. But it's just
Speaker 3: not enough and they needed to win badly and they
Speaker 3: go down to Almighty Sam Darnold and Justin Jefferson late
Speaker 3: in this game. Your thoughts what went wrong for the
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks down the stretch.
Speaker 1: A lot of things went wrong, Mitchell, A lot of
Speaker 1: things went wrong, starting with the turnovers. You can't have them,
Speaker 1: and obviously the last one was to clinch the game.
Speaker 1: Trying to find dk Metcalf deep down the field. They
Speaker 1: were playing what looked like a form of too deep,
Speaker 1: you know, just keeping a shell on the defense not
Speaker 1: allowing a big play. Gino wanted it bad, he forced
Speaker 1: it in there. Unfortunately, that's what happened. He was under
Speaker 1: durest most of the day. Managed to throw for three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards three touchdowns, but the two interceptions
Speaker 1: were the difference in.
Speaker 2: The ball game.
Speaker 1: Your boy K nine only had eight carries but had
Speaker 1: thirty one yards. You know, had a few breakout runs there,
Speaker 1: but just just played from behind for a lot of
Speaker 1: this game and was chasing the Minnesota Vikings for an
Speaker 1: good portion of this game, so had to throw the
Speaker 1: ball forty three times.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Like you said, JSN had really another really consistent, really
Speaker 1: good game. Catches for ninety five yards and the touchdown
Speaker 1: had one really incredible grab in traffic, kind of flexing,
Speaker 1: you know, great catch. He's starting to develop into one
Speaker 1: of the better receivers in the National Football League. Obviously,
Speaker 1: DK had his touchdown. Three catches for fifty seven yards.
Speaker 1: Jaron Reed, Boye, Mafe, Derek Hall all record a sack
Speaker 1: against a really good Minnesota Vikings offensive line. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: just continues to amaze in a stown. If it if
Speaker 1: this was a different life, people will be talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, potential MVP for Sam Donald. But this isn't
Speaker 1: that life, and it's just a really good, feel good
Speaker 1: story right now, Sam Donald twenty two or thirty five
Speaker 1: two forty six, three touchdowns, no interceptions, Aaron Jones at
Speaker 1: eighteen carry sixty seven yards, another three catches for twenty
Speaker 1: six yards. But Justin Jefferson, the guy you had to
Speaker 1: find an answer for, the guy you had to stop
Speaker 1: in this game. Ten catches for one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: four yards and the two touchdowns. That is what killed him, obviously,
Speaker 1: the dagger thirty nine yard touchdown at the end of
Speaker 1: the game and to cover two. I wasn't sure what
Speaker 1: happened on that play. It looked like Jordan Love was
Speaker 1: trying to kind of give presidence sentimental the field, but
Speaker 1: you can't give presence in that situation.
Speaker 2: You got to get over to Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: It looked like Reek funneled him in, even got a
Speaker 1: lot of depth to make sure it wasn't a big window.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald got pressured, moved up in the pocket, down
Speaker 1: that window, yarded it in. There no air under the ball.
Speaker 1: If there was any under the ball, I think Julian
Speaker 1: Love would have picked it there wasn't any air. There
Speaker 1: was a dime. That was the difference in the game
Speaker 1: at the end. Obviously people talk about the as field goal,
Speaker 1: but that was a long, long, long field goal, sixty
Speaker 1: yarder that they tried to attempt to tie the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected that one. You know, it'd
Speaker 1: been nice if you're to win, but sixty yard to
Speaker 1: tie the game is tough from anybody. They had a
Speaker 1: chance to go down there. I think the defense made
Speaker 1: enough stops in the second half to give the offense
Speaker 1: a chance. Unfortunately, the missfield gold and in the interception
Speaker 1: or what what doomed them. I mean, the Seahawks couldn't
Speaker 1: ask for to be in better position going near the
Speaker 1: end of that game, had the ball low backed up,
Speaker 1: but with a chance to win, to win the ball game,
Speaker 1: or at least drive down and tie it. That that
Speaker 1: interception was a was a gut punch. It was a
Speaker 1: really really really really killed the momentum, killed everything, killed
Speaker 1: the hopes of the Seattle Seahawks, at least for this season.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think they're mathematically eliminated. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if the Rams lose and some other crazy stuff, happens,
Speaker 1: there's a chance they could get in, but just a
Speaker 1: disappointing game for how well they played on both sides
Speaker 1: of the football, the plays they made. You know, obviously,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings are are a twelve ward twelve win
Speaker 1: ball club coming into this game. So it shows that
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks can play with anybody. They can keep the
Speaker 1: quarterback up right, they can cover with the best of them.
Speaker 1: Just Jefferson is one of the best, if not the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the National Football League. Reek was with
Speaker 1: him step for stepping a lot of these routes. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know that was a cover two what they called
Speaker 1: where they scored a touchdown and there was a you know,
Speaker 1: he got beat on a couple, but you expect that
Speaker 1: this is the best receiver in the National FOOTBA League.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get his two. That's why you play the game.
Speaker 1: But the two interceptions by Dallas Turner and Theo Jackson
Speaker 1: are what ended up being the difference in this ball game.
Speaker 1: When you have a game like this, you have to
Speaker 1: execute on all cylinders. You have to be hitting on
Speaker 1: all cylinders in order to win this game. Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: weren't the Minnesota Vikings were they are now thirteen and two.
Speaker 1: They host the Green Bay Packers next week in a really,
Speaker 1: really pivotal.
Speaker 2: Game in that division.
Speaker 1: If they find a way to win that, there is
Speaker 1: a big, big, big time game with the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: coming up that will decide perhaps the number one seed
Speaker 1: in the NFC.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 3: It's insane to me that this team is thirteen and two.
Speaker 3: I feel like they're not talked about enough. They deserve
Speaker 3: to be talked about more that they are. And they've
Speaker 3: always been a competitive team. It doesn't matter. You know
Speaker 3: who's at the helm, like clearly, I mean, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: led this team for years, and now you sub in
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, who's had a resurgence, a career of vitalization.
Speaker 3: This team's locked and loaded, and they're so well coached defensively,
Speaker 3: they can gun anyone. And you go on the road
Speaker 3: against Seattle, who desperately needs a win. And by the way, Richard,
Speaker 3: they are not eliminated. They go on the road, like
Speaker 3: you said, and play against these lowly Chicago Bears, who
Speaker 3: we saw the Detroit Lions beat up on today, and
Speaker 3: then they finish up in what could be a deciding
Speaker 3: factor game at the end of the season against the
Speaker 3: La Rams. I don't know the tiebreakers. I'm not that
Speaker 3: guru Esse yet. I'd have to check exactly what has
Speaker 3: to go on here for the Seattle Seahawks to make
Speaker 3: the playoffs. But if it comes down to it and
Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks have to play the the La Rams
Speaker 3: for that final week, a playing game, potentially, I mean, Richard,
Speaker 3: this could be. This is exactly what the NFL wants
Speaker 3: at the tail end of the season. And to say why
Speaker 3: they schedule these division games at the end, the fact
Speaker 3: that the Detroit Lions at thirteen and two and the
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings at thirteen and two are fighting for the
Speaker 3: one seed and one of these teams is not going
Speaker 3: to have home field advantage in Week one of the
Speaker 3: playoffs is a complete Nutter joke. I would say confidently
Speaker 3: right now, these are the two best teams in the NFC.
Speaker 3: But the fact that two teams in the NFC North
Speaker 3: are both thirteen and two and it could potentially come
Speaker 3: down to that final week in Detroit, it is madness.
Speaker 3: And this is exactly what the NFL wants. Let's talk
Speaker 3: more about the Detroit game, because obviously this team has
Speaker 3: been oh my goodness, I mean to say they've been
Speaker 3: injured is an understatement. Twenty two guys on the IR
Speaker 3: entering this week. The next closest team with six. I mean,
Speaker 3: by a comparative factor for all the listeners out there,
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions have twenty two guys on IR. The
Speaker 3: team they played last week, the Buffalo Bills have a
Speaker 3: total of three. It's a battle of attrition in the NFL. Richard,
Speaker 3: you know that better than anybody. These injuries can come
Speaker 3: up at random at any time, and this Detroit Lion
Speaker 3: team is battling injuries right now. Hopefully they can get
Speaker 3: some key guys back entering the playoffs, but right now,
Speaker 3: the focus and goal of this franchise is to take
Speaker 3: that one seed so that they can have a first
Speaker 3: one first round by and get healthy. They desperately need
Speaker 3: David Montgomery back.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: Didn't matter, right, you're playing the Chicago Bears on the road,
Speaker 3: you're projected to win. You take care of business. But
Speaker 3: the reality is you're playing a Division four Richard. You
Speaker 3: know all too well it doesn't matter the record when
Speaker 3: you play a division rival, especially on the road, it does,
Speaker 3: it's anyone's game, and for the Detroit Lions to come
Speaker 3: out with their hair on fire and go up numerous
Speaker 3: score early in this game, it was huge. You can't
Speaker 3: take more than than what the Lions have had to
Speaker 3: overcome this season, and they.
Speaker 2: Keep doing it and doing it and doing it.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I'm curious to know where your
Speaker 3: head's at with the Detroit Lion team, despite the injuries.
Speaker 3: Do you believe still that they are the NFC's best
Speaker 3: team at this point?
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's particularly close, and I don't
Speaker 1: We watched what the Philadelphia Eagles were today without Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts obviously, but until they lost CJ. Gardner Johnson. They're
Speaker 1: pretty old on defense, and Jalen Hurts doesn't play defense.
Speaker 1: So to see jayde and Daniels, a rookie quarterback, throw
Speaker 1: for five touchdowns against that defense, was concerning, and it's
Speaker 1: concerning on a number of levels. They scored thirty six
Speaker 1: points on this defense. So that's one of the strengths
Speaker 1: and has been a strength of this Philadelphia Eagles team
Speaker 1: down the stretch, and what we've started to really really
Speaker 1: count on and really give them credit for even when
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts struggled, it was Akwon Barkley who picked up
Speaker 1: all the extra carried the extra weight. But I believe
Speaker 1: in this Detroit Lions team. I think it's inspiring what
Speaker 1: they're doing. It's inspiring that you talk about next man
Speaker 1: up mentality. It's been that and that's what it is
Speaker 1: for super Bowl caliber teams. You talk about the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and what they overcome every single year. They
Speaker 1: lost Pacheco for a while, they put Kareem Hunt in there,
Speaker 1: and it was next man up. They lose a guy,
Speaker 1: they replace him. They lose a guy, they replace him,
Speaker 1: and the next man just keeps stepping up until they
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. That's what Detroit is gonna
Speaker 1: have to do. And it's unfortunate. Thankfully, they're saying David
Speaker 1: Montgomery isn't lost for the season. They're saying there's a
Speaker 1: chance that he can return, which would be huge. But
Speaker 1: right now, Jamir Gibbs is gonna have to carry a
Speaker 1: load and that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: He's and that's what he did today.
Speaker 1: Twenty three carries, one hundred and nine yards, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: four catchers for forty five yards pacted both both phases
Speaker 1: of the offensive game plan. Jamison Williams with his best
Speaker 1: game career high one hundred and forty three yards in
Speaker 1: five catches with the one touchdown. That's what you expected
Speaker 1: from him. And sometimes these injuries allow for other guys
Speaker 1: to flourish and other guys to develop. And these are
Speaker 1: still NFL players you got, you gotta find more, you
Speaker 1: gotta get other guys. Guys are gonna have to step up,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be an inspirational story at the
Speaker 1: end of the day if the Detroit Lions can pull
Speaker 1: it all together and win a Super Bowl under these circumstances,
Speaker 1: with everything against them. They're not making any excuses. They're
Speaker 1: just going out there and getting to work. This was
Speaker 1: a beautifully game plan game by both Aaron Glenn and
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Again, the same thing that makes you laugh
Speaker 1: can make you cry. And hopefully the team is able
Speaker 1: to finish a job this year because those coordinators are
Speaker 1: likely going to get head coaching jobs other places. You
Speaker 1: heard Ben Johnson earlier in the week talk about Caleb
Speaker 1: Wodlliams and what's what makes him special and what he'd
Speaker 1: do and how he'd fix him and you know, he
Speaker 1: hasn't looked at a lot of tape, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what are we saying, Ben Johnson? But I hear you
Speaker 1: focus on where your feet are. Focus on where your
Speaker 1: feet are, and that's what he said. He's saying all
Speaker 1: the right things. But that was very curious for me, Metell,
Speaker 1: that was very curious for me to hear. And Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams over the last five games, sixty three percent completion percentage,
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns, no interceptions, one hundred and one point nine
Speaker 1: passer rating.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: These are things that make me say, hmm. Now he's
Speaker 1: gotten sacked a lot over those games, and I think
Speaker 1: he's held a lot of footballs he could have thrown away,
Speaker 1: which would have lowered that passer rating and things like that,
Speaker 1: And those are things the fans don't really know, but
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman would because an offensive lineman is credited
Speaker 1: with those sacks, but the quarterback's not credited with it
Speaker 1: any completion.
Speaker 2: Mitchell.
Speaker 1: You see how that works there, When a quarterback coats
Speaker 1: the ball and he doesn't have something, he could throw
Speaker 1: it away and lived by another down, but they eat
Speaker 1: it so they can protect their passer rating and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, and offensive linemen have to deal with
Speaker 1: the sac numbers, so we'll get to that at another time.
Speaker 1: But Caleb Williams throws for three hundred and thirty four yards,
Speaker 1: who touchdowns ran it for thirty four yards. But again,
Speaker 1: playing from behind most of this game, it wasn't there.
Speaker 1: They were never really a threat in this game. Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: the veteran did have nine catches for one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty one yards and one touchdown on a double move,
Speaker 1: which I don't understand why you're biting on in this.
Speaker 2: Situation, but it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: He had a heck of a game. Mitt what they
Speaker 1: asked for more and he delivered. He delivered more in
Speaker 1: both phases of the game. And I think he's going
Speaker 1: to continue to do that. He's going to continue to say, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't have knuckles here, I can carry it.
Speaker 1: I can show you I'm a viable back. I am
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl running back in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and if you need me to be that, I will
Speaker 1: be that for every down, not just third down. Not
Speaker 1: just past situations. I will be at one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of the time until my guy gets back. And I
Speaker 1: love the unselfishness of this locker room. Whatever it takes,
Speaker 1: seems to be the mentality of everybody in this locker room.
Speaker 3: Mitchell, you gotta be proud, Richard. I am, and you
Speaker 3: know what I am proud about. I was just at
Speaker 3: the Brightling store, you know, this week, flashing off my
Speaker 3: Honolulu Blue Brightling and I'm pretty sure Jamir Gibbs has
Speaker 3: got to match in one of these. And they said,
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions Brightlings have sold out, my friend. But
Speaker 3: if you yeah, Richard, that's how hot this team is
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Speaker 3: laughed at. The Detroit Lions were laughed at for drafting
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs at number twelve, and Brad Holmes said he
Speaker 3: would have drafted him at number six if they had
Speaker 3: stayed there, but they chose to trade back, and they
Speaker 3: got him at twelve and it showing why they did that.
Speaker 3: And obviously this team is wanting to grind it out
Speaker 3: and beat teams up between the tackles, Jamier Gibbs, They're
Speaker 3: gonna have to lean on them quite a bit, you know,
Speaker 3: down the stretch. They're gonna have to go to San
Speaker 3: Francisco next week. Rich I'm Monday Night Football, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna have to get another dub A redemption tour continues
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. Make right for that NFC championship game
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions. They needed this win bad and they
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Speaker 3: But Richard, let's take it to your San Francisco forty
Speaker 3: nine ers, another team desperate for a win on the
Speaker 3: road in Miami. I know it's tough. I know it's tough,
Speaker 3: and here comes the hat change, the infamous hat change
Speaker 3: to the San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 2: Richard.
Speaker 3: This team needed it bad, they know the head coach
Speaker 3: from the Miami Dolphins all too well. Going on the road,
Speaker 3: especially from West coast time zone the East Coast time zone,
Speaker 3: is not easy, and it didn't look easy out there
Speaker 3: for the San Francisco forty nine ers at all. Today
Speaker 3: Miami had a field day. Devon ah Chan got wild
Speaker 3: on him for one hundred and twenty one yards. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on with Tyreek Hill, though, Rich
Speaker 3: I want to start there with Tyreek before we get
Speaker 3: more into the San Francisco forty nine ers. What the
Speaker 3: hell is going on with Tyreek Hill? He puts out
Speaker 3: some cryptic tweet earlier today saying that I don't know
Speaker 3: if he wants out of town, or if he wants
Speaker 3: a coaching position, or what the hell's going on. But
Speaker 3: this Tyreek Hill does not look like the Tyreek Hill
Speaker 3: we've become accustomed to. Know what's your mindset with Tyreek?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got to make some phone calls and try to
Speaker 1: figure it out. I got some guys on that coaching staff,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like the same guy. He's not
Speaker 1: making the same impact. He looks disinteresting, and obviously you
Speaker 1: see all the he's dropping some passes that he used
Speaker 1: to catch, and that's outside of all the social media theatrics.
Speaker 1: He's just not playing well and they're winning almost in
Speaker 1: spite of him and his performances. To a tunnel Billow
Speaker 1: of twenty two of thirty four two fifteen one touchdown,
Speaker 1: no interceptions, But they need more out of him, and
Speaker 1: they're starting to lead on guys like Jon new Smith
Speaker 1: who's had six catches for sixty two yards, a couple
Speaker 1: of crucial catches in that game. But Devon a Chan
Speaker 1: also six catches for seventy yards. You know, starting to
Speaker 1: become a real factor in the passing game. This was
Speaker 1: a tough one to watch. And I'm not sure what's
Speaker 1: going on with Tyreek Hill, but they didn't need him.
Speaker 2: They didn't need him today.
Speaker 1: Their defense put enough pressure on this, on this San
Speaker 1: Francisco offense that that's gonna have to be a point of.
Speaker 2: Of concern this offseason.
Speaker 1: Like even with Trent Williams coming back, the rest of
Speaker 1: this offensive line needs to be talked about. It needs
Speaker 1: to be addressed like there should not be there shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless we get rid of a couple guys,
Speaker 1: there should not be another position that they focus on
Speaker 1: more than the offensive line. And I know you can't
Speaker 1: just draft them one, two, three, four, five, six, but
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. We gonna hit on one
Speaker 1: of them, like I'm focusing every better free agency, every
Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line, the rest of it. I think
Speaker 1: they got great guys there. Deebo had a really good
Speaker 1: game seven catches for ninety six yards, five kids, five
Speaker 1: rushes for twenty five yards. He looked motivated, He looked passionate.
Speaker 1: He looked like a guy trying to prove a point,
Speaker 1: trying to make up. He literally caught the same pass
Speaker 1: that he dropped last week versus the Rams and took
Speaker 1: it for a touchdown. You could see fight, fight through
Speaker 1: everything to get that touchdown. Had another big play on
Speaker 1: a third down that got called back because of an
Speaker 1: illegal formation that really frustrated Kyle Shanahan. But at this point,
Speaker 1: this season is a wrap. Guys are playing for a
Speaker 1: pride and playing to see who really wants to be
Speaker 1: on this team next year. Draft position is gonna matter.
Speaker 1: Obviously they got this game against Detroit and they finish
Speaker 1: it off against the Arizona Cardinals. But now you gotta
Speaker 1: focus on where you're draft and I think they're eleventh
Speaker 1: right now in draft order.
Speaker 2: And then you need a right tackle.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need a right tackle that's not no if
Speaker 1: sands or but no discussion, no nothing, a right tackle.
Speaker 1: You need to figure out a center, maybe in the
Speaker 1: second round, a young center that can get you know,
Speaker 1: has an anchor smart.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of them in a big ten.
Speaker 1: Somewhere to find them, maybe one in the SEC, find
Speaker 1: a center, and then maybe find a guard and free agency,
Speaker 1: it looks like you have one in Poony. You got
Speaker 1: to put a competition out there at left guard and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think you feel good about
Speaker 1: the pieces coming back, but that offensive line needs to
Speaker 1: be the number one, number two, and number three priority
Speaker 1: this offseason. If you're gonna pay this quarterback all the
Speaker 1: money you're gonna have to pay him, or if they
Speaker 1: decide to franch or whatever they're gonna do, you want
Speaker 1: to keep him up right. You want to keep him
Speaker 1: up right so that he can be the playmaker that
Speaker 1: he has been.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 1: He's been under a lot more drest, He's been using
Speaker 1: his legs more, He's had to leave the pocket more
Speaker 1: often than not. It hasn't been great, and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of it is because the offensive line
Speaker 1: hasn't been strong, and without Trent it's looked even worse.
Speaker 1: Jalen Moore came out and now it looks Spencer Buford
Speaker 1: went to left tackle and it was a rough game
Speaker 1: in that regard. They put a lot of pressure. Jordan
Speaker 1: Brooks had a sack, Zack Seeler had a sack, Chop
Speaker 1: Robinson had a sack, and on the opposite side, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco for nine Ers defense had no sacks. And
Speaker 1: that's another concern because to what some of I Loowa
Speaker 1: is one of the quarterbacks that gets the ball out
Speaker 1: quick because of his concussion issues, because of the things
Speaker 1: that he's had to deal with. But you got to
Speaker 1: find a way to get home when receivers are covered up.
Speaker 1: You got to find a way to get turnovers. You
Speaker 1: got to find a way to impact this game. And
Speaker 1: there's no sacks, no turnovers in his game. That's a
Speaker 1: point of concern, But I think they got the right
Speaker 1: pieces in place. Obviously, gotta get green Law healthier him
Speaker 1: and Fred you might have to find another pass rusher
Speaker 1: and free agency. I know, obviously Javon Hargrave is a
Speaker 1: guy they paid a lot of money who hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to play. You know, injury took him out of
Speaker 1: the lineup. But that's somewhere else you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: address after further after the offensive line, because there has
Speaker 1: been a lot of investment in defensive line. Again, are
Speaker 1: Karmstead was a big deal guys he was doesn't always
Speaker 1: show up on the stat sheet, and sure he missed
Speaker 1: some games, but when he's in there, he makes an
Speaker 1: incredible impact on and off the stat sheet, and you're
Speaker 1: missing that.
Speaker 2: The Forest Buckter got traded away a couple years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll they'll look to maybe have a conversation
Speaker 1: within Indianapolis Colts and see if they can bring him home.
Speaker 1: Perhaps that'd be a good move to make. But right now,
Speaker 1: this team is playing for a pride. Get through the
Speaker 1: end of the year healthy. There's not a positive lot
Speaker 1: of positives that come out of this game only scoring
Speaker 1: seventeen points, kicker misses another kick. I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a position they have to address. I think it
Speaker 1: should be. Jake Moody should not be going feeling comfortable
Speaker 1: about his job next season. I think there needs to
Speaker 1: be a competition all offseason long. There should not be
Speaker 1: comfort at the kicker spot. He did not play well enough.
Speaker 1: Regardless of draft position. You have to bring kickers in
Speaker 1: here because that is a position where guys are a
Speaker 1: lot more efficient and reliable than he has been this season.
Speaker 1: And I know you can talk about injury, you can
Speaker 1: talk about this you can talk about that, but this
Speaker 1: is the National Football League, and I'm sorry, the margin
Speaker 1: peer in that position is a lot less than every
Speaker 1: other position because of what it means, what it takes,
Speaker 1: like it's so much harder to do every other position. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not saying kicker is an easy position, but there
Speaker 1: are guys that become kickers a few years before they
Speaker 1: come into the National Football League and do the job
Speaker 1: at a high level. Very few other positions in the
Speaker 1: National Football League you can just kind of learn as
Speaker 1: you go, kick a few balls and then become an
Speaker 1: NFL kicker. That's You're not becoming an NFL corner that way,
Speaker 1: you know, just coming, Hey, I've never played played sport,
Speaker 1: but let me get out here, cover a couple guys
Speaker 1: and see what I got. Like, that position is gonna
Speaker 1: need to be addressed because again in this game, this
Speaker 1: game could have been a lot closer with a made kick.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that changes the trajectory, changes the
Speaker 1: thinking during some of these drives. But you're missing kicks consistently,
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost like you're so unreliable. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing that's reliable about it is that you you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna miss, and you don't want to have that.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have that mindset going in as
Speaker 1: a coach when you're kicking field goals, You don't. You
Speaker 1: don't want to feel like you have to go forward.
Speaker 1: And Kyle doesn't take that on and take that mentality
Speaker 1: on and just go for it every time. But if
Speaker 1: you have a more reliable kicker these out some of
Speaker 1: these outcomes would be different. So that's something that they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to address again. The forty nine ers host
Speaker 1: the Lions next week in a game that the Lions
Speaker 1: are highly motivated for and I don't know if San
Speaker 1: Francisco is as motivated, but they'll have to go out
Speaker 1: there and deal with the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: or got something on their minds.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 3: And you talked about playing for pride, Richard, That's what
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers are playing for his pride.
Speaker 3: And I asked them to play for one pride, you know,
Speaker 3: my Detroit Lions. Let's play for one pride here and
Speaker 3: let's let's help the Detroit Lion secure that one seed
Speaker 3: in the NFC. Richard, you can't fault the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers for draft and make Jake Moody. He was a
Speaker 3: stud at U of M. But you do have to
Speaker 3: question John Lynch's deciding to draft him in the third round,
Speaker 3: especially if you give up so much draft capital to
Speaker 3: move up and get Trey Lance, which has proven to
Speaker 3: be one of the bigger blunders in recent NFL. You
Speaker 3: know history here, Richard. I don't mean to put you
Speaker 3: on the spot, but in my role here, I got
Speaker 3: to put you on the spot. If you're John Lynch,
Speaker 3: how do you handle this rock Pretty situation in the
Speaker 3: office season, Because this is a turning point of this franchise,
Speaker 3: whether you want it to be or not. You pay
Speaker 3: the man, you franchise them. You have so many other
Speaker 3: positions of need at this point. The championship window is
Speaker 3: not closed in San Francisco. We've already talked about that,
Speaker 3: But the big question is brock party. Richard Truman put
Speaker 3: your GM hat on. How do you handle the brock
Speaker 3: Pretty situation in San Francisco this offseason?
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna they're gonna pay him, and we pay them.
Speaker 1: You obviously are gonna have to make some other decisions,
Speaker 1: probably restructure Fred, extend him something along those lines. Same
Speaker 1: thing with George. Guys that you want here, Guys that
Speaker 1: do things the right way, you know. I hope people
Speaker 1: don't take that the wrong way. Restructure doesn't mean take
Speaker 1: money away or less money or anything like that. It
Speaker 1: will likely be in an extension and longer contracts for
Speaker 1: these guys, pushing their money out further, which will make
Speaker 1: their cap hits less for this year, which will change
Speaker 1: the way that you you know, either make them less
Speaker 1: for this year or make them more for this year
Speaker 1: so that Brock's hits can be bigger later on you
Speaker 1: figure out what the number is with Brock. Obviously, there's
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of guaranteed money in this deal.
Speaker 1: I hear people talking about the three for one hundred
Speaker 1: that I think Kirk signed. Who's signed a three four oh,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield signed. It's not going to be anything like that,
Speaker 1: And I don't think Sam Donalds is going to be
Speaker 1: anything like that. I think I don't think Sam donald
Speaker 1: signs for anything less than one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: But that's just me, and I definitely don't think Brock
Speaker 1: Party signs for anything less than one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Guaranteed, that'll probably be low end of it.
Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll make a decision about Javon Hargrave
Speaker 1: what they want to do there, whether there's a salary
Speaker 1: reduction or a cut, depending on what the number looks
Speaker 1: like the June first option, I think they'll look to
Speaker 1: either extend or renegotiate to our various ward. There's a
Speaker 1: number of things they can do to get the money
Speaker 1: where it needs to be to have availability. This is
Speaker 1: not again the people talk about the window being closed.
Speaker 1: It's nowhere near closed. And that's why they've managed it
Speaker 1: the way they have. That's why they structured these things
Speaker 1: the way they have, and I'm sure they'll leave themselves
Speaker 1: room to move maneuver going forward. Obviously, Deebo has another
Speaker 1: year on his contract, Brandon Ayuk will come back hopefully
Speaker 1: healthy next season. You just extended Christian McCaffrey, so I
Speaker 1: think that'll they'll leave that there. But I think again,
Speaker 1: offensive line will be the thing that they focus on
Speaker 1: this this offseason, like it has to be through both
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft. You have to address that
Speaker 1: and you have to address it in a big way.
Speaker 1: He can't just be like, hey, we just We're just
Speaker 1: gonna put guys out there and whoever you need talented
Speaker 1: guys out there. We've it hasn't been good enough at
Speaker 1: the center position. It hasn't been good enough at the
Speaker 1: right tackle position, hasn't been necessarily good enough at the
Speaker 1: left guard. The right guard showed promise, especially early on
Speaker 1: in the season, showed showed that he could be a
Speaker 1: really capable player. Obviously, you know it's his first year.
Speaker 1: We expect you know, him to be better next year,
Speaker 1: and you expect things to get better with time. But
Speaker 1: the rest of the positions need to be addressed in
Speaker 1: a big way, and you have to find a way
Speaker 1: to do that young. You have to find some young
Speaker 1: guys to get it done. That's how you continue to
Speaker 1: keep this championship window open. I know everybody wants to
Speaker 1: sit there and dive off, to jump off the deep
Speaker 1: end and say.
Speaker 2: The windows closed all this loss. It's not. It's not.
Speaker 1: These guys are really talented team still, it's just been
Speaker 1: a bad year and a bad offensive line. They're gonna
Speaker 1: make some changes. They're gonna get healthier, and they're going
Speaker 1: to go in next year with a different hunger and
Speaker 1: a different mentality and you're going to see a different team.
Speaker 1: And I expect this team to be a team that
Speaker 1: can competes next year for the Super Bowl, competes to
Speaker 1: be at top of this division. Obviously. You know this
Speaker 1: division is still up for grams. If the Rams win
Speaker 1: next week against Arizona, I think that that pretty much
Speaker 1: locks it up for them, you know, in regardless of
Speaker 1: what happens in Seattle. But uh, against the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. But that's the story
Speaker 1: for a different day. But I don't think this window
Speaker 1: is closed. I think this is still a really talented team.
Speaker 1: I think they needed a reset. I think this a
Speaker 1: lot of things have been weighing on them. A lot
Speaker 1: of the contract issues earlier in the season, a lot
Speaker 1: of the things coming in with holdouts multiple years in
Speaker 1: a row, deep playoff runs every single season, disappointment, hurt, frustration.
Speaker 1: These are humans, and so a reset, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, A good stern like understanding band, a man
Speaker 1: conversations happening in this locker room. I think this team
Speaker 1: comes back with a renewed vigor, a renewed intensity, and
Speaker 1: ready to compete. And I think John Lynch will say
Speaker 1: the same thing. I think Kyle Shanahan will say the
Speaker 1: same thing. I look forward to seeing what they do
Speaker 1: next year and what they do in this all season,
Speaker 1: because right now, you know, it's not much to say
Speaker 1: it's this season has been a disappointment on a lot
Speaker 1: of on a lot of on a lot of levels.
Speaker 1: I'm sure by both the staff, the fans, the players,
Speaker 1: nobody expected this. But I don't think this is a
Speaker 1: reflection of how this is gonna be or what the
Speaker 1: future is gonna hold. You gotta remember, this will be
Speaker 1: the first year in a number of years that this
Speaker 1: team isn't in an NFC championship game or Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: So give them a break.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 3: Like you said, this roster is littered with Pro Bowl veterans,
Speaker 3: and once they get healthy, the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers are still going to be a championship caliber team.
Speaker 1: It's time to take a look at this weekend's tastiest
Speaker 1: matchups in a segment we're calling Sunday Night food Ball,
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Speaker 1: it is. It's the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia roared out to a commanding lead. They were up
Speaker 1: twenty seven to fourteen. At one point it looked like
Speaker 1: this game again, Washington was pushing out of their weight
Speaker 1: class and Philadelphia is gonna walk away with this division again.
Speaker 1: In walk away with this win, you know, showed them
Speaker 1: who's the boss, et cetera, et cetera. But jayde and
Speaker 1: Daniels flipped the switch and really got after it. The
Speaker 1: Commanders won this game. He threw five touchdowns despite the
Speaker 1: five turnovers they had on offense, which should have doomed them.
Speaker 1: It should have doomed them, obviously, your Lions or Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions or the other only other team this season to
Speaker 1: win a game after turning the ball over five times,
Speaker 1: that's just crazy, But sometimes it's your year. The Commanders
Speaker 1: only had nine turnovers before this game, and so to
Speaker 1: have five in one game.
Speaker 2: Was crazy.
Speaker 1: But Saquon had a great first quarter seven carries for
Speaker 1: one hundred and nine yards. I think he had a
Speaker 1: seventy yard run for a touchdown, and again he looked
Speaker 1: like the MVP to Philadelphia. Eagles looked like they were
Speaker 1: doing what they've done majority of this season, playing great defense,
Speaker 1: taking the ball away and Saquon Barkley feeding him. They
Speaker 1: lost Jalen Hursts early on to a concussion. Can he
Speaker 1: picket through an interception a couple drives later? But after
Speaker 1: that he looked like they settled in. He continued to
Speaker 1: do what they have been doing, feed aj Brown. They
Speaker 1: targeted him fifteen times, only targeted everybody else ten times.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The love it, Richard. I had to love it. The
Speaker 1: squeaky will gets the oil, Mitchell.
Speaker 3: And you know what this this marks the return of
Speaker 3: is Kenny Pickett?
Speaker 1: Yes he can, Yes he can, Kenny Pickett, Yes he can,
Speaker 1: Yes he can't throw a Yes he can, Yes he can, Mitchell.
Speaker 1: You knew Kenny Pickett was gonna throw a pick, but
Speaker 1: he played solid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think after that interception they played a lot more
Speaker 1: conservatively with him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: He only threw the ball twenty four times for one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty three yards, the one touchdown, the one
Speaker 1: interception only completed it to three receivers. And Davonte Smith
Speaker 1: had had a really critical drop in this game that
Speaker 1: was uncharacteristic. That was one of those players I'm sure
Speaker 1: he wants back. That could have gave them a chance
Speaker 1: to win this game, Red Blankenship had an interception.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson had the interception got kicked out of the
Speaker 1: game for a play I kind of I don't really
Speaker 1: really know what happened, and I don't really know if
Speaker 1: I agree with it. Nobody really explained it to me,
Speaker 1: and I gotta I gotta go back and look and
Speaker 1: see if they got a better explanation postgame of what happened.
Speaker 2: But it looked like he got his helmet mushed off, and.
Speaker 1: I know the reffle was standing right there, so whatever
Speaker 1: he said was worthy of an unsportsmanlike penalty. But then
Speaker 1: it gets your helmet mushed off and the other guy
Speaker 1: not get anything. I just didn't get that. I know
Speaker 1: life is hard enough on defensive players, and yes, I'm biased,
Speaker 1: just like everybody. The whole world is biased for offensive players,
Speaker 1: so nobody gotta be biased the other way. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: And some of those PI calls, That's another thing. Those
Speaker 1: PI calls on Latimer will absolute horseshit, absolute horseshit. I'm
Speaker 1: so tired of this game getting so soft and ridiculous
Speaker 1: and people having an audacity to complain about it, Like,
Speaker 1: how are those pis like, if the receiver's physical, then
Speaker 1: you have to let the dB at least defend himself
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 2: Don't be praising these receivers for being all man. He's
Speaker 2: so physical, he's so strong.
Speaker 1: You look how physical is at the catch point and
Speaker 1: you see him pushing the corner in the neck and
Speaker 1: pushing him off and grabbing him by the collar. And
Speaker 1: then when the corner gets his hands off of him,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, you can't grab him.
Speaker 2: That's illegal. You can't grab him. What about him grabbing
Speaker 2: me by the neck while running this route?
Speaker 1: Because everything's acceptable for a receiver to do, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing acceptable for a corner to do. Let the boys play.
Speaker 1: Let the boys or call off. And if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna call and you gotta let the boys play. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of these penalties that they're calling, almost back to
Speaker 1: back to back, punishing corners for covering these receivers when
Speaker 1: they're quote unquote physical, and it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you want them to do. You want to stay
Speaker 1: close to him while he's getting pushed around and not
Speaker 1: grab him back. It's like, have you ever been punched
Speaker 1: in a face and then just kept getting punched in
Speaker 1: the face, and then they're like, hey, don't worry, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll if he punched it in the face one more time,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll say something they're not And it's hard to
Speaker 1: play that way, I got, you know, I mean, he
Speaker 1: has a team to play for. Thank god that Washington
Speaker 1: Commanders were able to come out with a win because
Speaker 1: those penalties were those were disappointed, to say.
Speaker 3: The least, no question about it. And and Richard, I,
Speaker 3: I know I've followed you for my for your entire career,
Speaker 3: and I too, am biased, but objectively speaking, I think
Speaker 3: it's hard to argue against the fact that cornerback position
Speaker 3: is the hardest position to play in all of sports.
Speaker 3: You are expected to go against these top flight athletes
Speaker 3: that can do anything they want after five yards right,
Speaker 3: they can do anything they want. They can hand fight you,
Speaker 3: they can shove you, they can do anything they want,
Speaker 3: and if you lay a fingertip upon them, you're getting
Speaker 3: a flag thrown at you. It's getting ridiculous. Kudos to
Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders and this is a huge win for them.
Speaker 3: It seemed that the trajectory their season had plateaued, right.
Speaker 3: It was this beautiful crescendo of oh my god, Jayden
Speaker 3: Daniels is the second coming of CJ. Stroud, And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it was like, okay that that
Speaker 3: rookie wall kind of was hit. And now to see
Speaker 3: them take this win, albeit without Jalen Hurts on the
Speaker 3: opposing side of the field. I mean, that's a huge injury.
Speaker 3: Let's not undersell that. I mean, Jalen Hurts going out
Speaker 3: impacted this game mightily. The Philadelphia Eagles had this game
Speaker 3: in control prior to that injury, and kudou kudos to
Speaker 3: the future gold jacket wearing middle linebackers. One of the
Speaker 3: goats in the game, Bobby Wagner with a huge pass
Speaker 3: breakup on Saquon Barkley late in that contest. Bobby poked
Speaker 3: that ball out Saquon's arms, was a dime Toquon falling
Speaker 3: to the ground, Bobby smacked it out. You gotta give
Speaker 3: a shout out to one of your best buds, Rich
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner keeping it rolling here with the Washington Commanders
Speaker 3: bias aside, I know your buddies are Bobby's. How much
Speaker 3: fear would you have playing Washington Week one? If you
Speaker 3: are say the Minnesota Vikings say, the Detroit Lions, say
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Well you have you gotta have a little bit of
Speaker 1: fear because the quarterback has no none. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing about young quarterbacks that you gotta you gotta be
Speaker 1: careful with because they don't know any better. Older veteran
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting there and they panic. Sometimes they don't play well,
Speaker 1: they throw the game away because they're thinking too much.
Speaker 2: They're like paralys is buy analysis.
Speaker 1: But young guys sometimes not all the time, because obviously
Speaker 1: there's young guys that go to the playoffs and go
Speaker 1: home and it's like, hey, good try. You a young
Speaker 1: quarterback and you learned. But if you're not playing against
Speaker 1: a really crazy elite or a complex scheme like Flores
Speaker 1: or like Todd Bowles who's going to give you a
Speaker 1: lot of crazy, exotic looks in the playoffs, I give
Speaker 1: him a puncher's chance because you got a young quarterback
Speaker 1: who can be really efficient and can catch fire like
Speaker 1: he did in this game against the Philadelphia Equals, that
Speaker 1: isn't scared of the moment. You got veteran receivers Zakias
Speaker 1: who had two touchdowns today. Obviously Terry McLaurin, who can
Speaker 1: get the job done. Set the franchise record for receiving
Speaker 1: touchdowns with twelve this year, but has this fifth straight,
Speaker 1: fifth consecutive thousand yard season.
Speaker 2: They can get it done. A veteran tight end and
Speaker 2: zach Ertz, a defense.
Speaker 1: That is getting a little bit better and learning to
Speaker 1: play together, and got a lot better by getting a
Speaker 1: cornerback that they needed. I think they're going to be
Speaker 1: a team that, if they get the right matchups, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a mail bider for one of these teams.
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Speaker 3: Now for game day, let's talk about the Bills.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: They play the lowly New England Patriots. They get down
Speaker 3: fourteen points early, and they narrowly escape defeat against a
Speaker 3: division rival or suld. You've played in this year, this
Speaker 3: league a number of years, and you know how big
Speaker 3: division foes and opponents are. But riddle me this, how
Speaker 3: in the world does this Buffalo Bills team go on
Speaker 3: the road against Detroit, beat one of the best, if
Speaker 3: not the best team in the NFL on their home turf,
Speaker 3: return back home as a fourteen point favorite against the
Speaker 3: lowly New England Patriots and have a dog fight, and
Speaker 3: not to mention, you know, Josh Allen doesn't look like
Speaker 3: the second coming of an MVP candidate. He looks more
Speaker 3: like that what was the quarterback Peterman that played with
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills. It looks more like the second coming
Speaker 3: of Peterman with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: I just I don't get it with this. How does
Speaker 2: this happen?
Speaker 3: Because the Buffalo Bills to me, looked like the team
Speaker 3: to beat after last Sunday and now they just look
Speaker 3: like a good team slash decent team. They still come
Speaker 3: out with a w. But Richard, it did not come
Speaker 3: without a tremendous fight against a three to one Patriots team.
Speaker 2: Complacency and human nature.
Speaker 1: You know, they knew they had this Detroit game schedule,
Speaker 1: they had it circled, they got hyped for it, they
Speaker 1: got up for it. They gave everything they had and
Speaker 1: then you look up and you say a New England
Speaker 1: Patriots say they've they're a three win team, like we
Speaker 1: can take it easy here. And although you know you
Speaker 1: may say all the right things in the media, you
Speaker 1: may say all the right things in practice, you may
Speaker 1: practice regular Clearly, your performance says you overlooked him. Clearly,
Speaker 1: your performance says you didn't respect him. You didn't think
Speaker 1: they would be an opponent that would give you a challenge.
Speaker 1: And this was a game Josh Allen needed to beat
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and he wasn't and his defense stepped up enough,
Speaker 1: made enough plays to help him get the win. And
Speaker 1: I know Buffalo fans are sitting there arguing in my
Speaker 1: comments every week, he's the MVP. How do you not
Speaker 1: think you how do you think anything else? Because games
Speaker 1: like this, because games like this happen, and when they happen,
Speaker 1: you question it. You question like, hey, Throe for one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four, one hundred and fifty one yards
Speaker 1: this game, a touchdown in an interception, ran it for
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards, did enough to win the game. Sure,
Speaker 1: but you keep saying he has no help when Cook
Speaker 1: had eleven carries for one hundred and.
Speaker 2: Ten yards in this game.
Speaker 1: And so when they say he doesn't have any help,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any running backs, he doesn't have anybody
Speaker 1: behind him.
Speaker 2: And you look up and.
Speaker 1: Cook is having one hundred yard games after one hundred
Speaker 1: yard games, and you're like, wait a minute, now, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, is it no help or.
Speaker 2: Is it helped?
Speaker 1: Because his defense is playing pretty well. Sometimes they didn't
Speaker 1: play well against Detroit because they gave up forty two points,
Speaker 1: but they played well in this game when he had
Speaker 1: to have it, you know, when they had to have stops,
Speaker 1: when they had to get stops, they got them. They
Speaker 1: helped this team to twenty one points. Now, it's not
Speaker 1: a great team. They were down fourteen oh at one point,
Speaker 1: but games like this MVPs are one in December. And
Speaker 1: if you looked up and Joe Burrow doesn't have a chance,
Speaker 1: but his numbers, his numbers say it should they're silly.
Speaker 1: His numbers say it should have a chance. They don't
Speaker 1: have a chance, But then his numbers say he should
Speaker 1: have a chance. He is thirty nine touchdowns, passing eight interceptions,
Speaker 1: forty two hundred yards. Those are MVP numbers any other season.
Speaker 1: He still has two games to go.
Speaker 3: Let me paint a picture for you, Richard, because the Bengals.
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you, guys, the Bengals are not
Speaker 3: out of the playoff picture just yet. They got a
Speaker 3: glimmer of hope. They play the Denver Broncos next week,
Speaker 3: and then they need the Broncos to lose against the
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. If the Bengals can win out and
Speaker 3: the Broncos lose out, Richard, dare I say Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: has a shot at the MVP after all, if they
Speaker 3: sneak into this playoffs.
Speaker 2: You may not say that, Mitchell, because he does not.
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I would be with you, Mitchell,
Speaker 2: I would be with you, but he does not.
Speaker 1: That is not enough for an MVP unless I mean
Speaker 1: his numbers would have to be really really really really really.
Speaker 2: Really really really really really insane.
Speaker 3: But really, Richard, but they have been really really really
Speaker 3: really really really insane up to this point. So that's
Speaker 3: my point. If he can bring this team back and
Speaker 3: sneak them into the playoffs, no one's gonna want to
Speaker 3: play Cincinnati round one. If they can sneak in, absolutely
Speaker 3: no one. And so how can you tell me with
Speaker 3: these really really really insane stats that Joe Burrow is
Speaker 3: putting up that he will not have the I do
Speaker 3: I dare Go, Tony Romo, GM Richard Richard, Are you sure,
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow? I mean give him, give him a shooter shot.
Speaker 1: Here, because this is why, Mitchell, because there are very
Speaker 1: few quarterbacks any I gotta look at it. I don't
Speaker 1: think a quarterback has had thirty five plus touchdowns in
Speaker 1: under five interceptions thrown on the season like Lamar Jackson has.
Speaker 1: And knock going it, Mitchell. It hasn't happened yet. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year because they keep telling me Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's gonna win it. And last year they told me
Speaker 1: Lamar was gonna win it. When I said, how, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying with Josh Allen, how like I want you
Speaker 1: I know you guys want the numbers to be numbering,
Speaker 1: but they're not. Lamar Jackson is a second in touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: a second in yards four interceptions on the season. How
Speaker 1: and I think he has forty total maybe forty one
Speaker 1: total touchdowns?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 2: How can he not get it? Menchell? How can he
Speaker 2: not get it?
Speaker 1: Actually has forty total touchdowns, So let me not misquote
Speaker 1: because I know how they are. So he has forty
Speaker 1: total touchdowns, thirty seven of them passing thirty seven hundred
Speaker 1: passing yards, which will probably end up being forty three
Speaker 1: hundred or so. He'll likely get to forty or so
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. So if he gets to forty, let's call
Speaker 1: it if he has two and two forty one. If
Speaker 1: he throws for forty one touchdown passes and only has
Speaker 1: four or five interceptions and they're the three seed, you're
Speaker 1: telling me that's not the MVP of the league. If
Speaker 1: you're telling me that, then you gotta show me the
Speaker 1: numbers that support that, because all I keep hearing is
Speaker 1: look at the tape, look at the eye test. Well,
Speaker 1: is I am I still taking the eye test because
Speaker 1: I watched the game today and that eye test didn't
Speaker 1: look as good that eye test that you're not passing
Speaker 1: that test by my eye, Like, that's not an MVP.
Speaker 1: And if it has to be every week either, it's
Speaker 1: like because now the goalports are gonna move for people.
Speaker 1: They're gonna tell me that it has to be record,
Speaker 1: But record matters when you're the one seat, Like it
Speaker 1: matters if you're gonna be the one seed in the conference.
Speaker 1: If you're not the one seat, then you're just everybody else.
Speaker 1: You're playing a playoff game. You're playing in a wildcard
Speaker 1: just like everybody else, So that really doesn't differentiate you
Speaker 1: that much. Lamar was the one seed, that's why he
Speaker 1: got it. His record had him as in his team
Speaker 1: as the one seat, clearly the best team. And when
Speaker 1: they had to have that game against the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers that everybody circled and needed him to
Speaker 1: have a big game, he had a great game. He
Speaker 1: had he had five touchdown passes, like he had the
Speaker 1: game he needs to have. Give him the trophy. They
Speaker 1: gave him the trophy. Now you could say, did Josh
Speaker 1: have a good game against the Detroit Lions that you
Speaker 1: need to have? And then he uh used his used
Speaker 1: the restroom in the bed this game of sorts. You know,
Speaker 1: use use easier language, pick up what you're putting down.
Speaker 1: I smell what you're saying, rich, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: smelled what he was putting out there this week. And
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Like they aren't the number one seed
Speaker 1: and they aren't the number one seed on either side.
Speaker 1: It ain't like, oh, if they were in an NFC,
Speaker 1: they'd be the one seed.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't be they'd be the three.
Speaker 1: You know, there's three teams, there's two teams in the
Speaker 1: NFC North with better records than them. You're Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and then you got the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: with the same record as him. So again, this isn't
Speaker 1: even the best record in the National Football League. So
Speaker 1: the record argument doesn't really compute. So if the eye
Speaker 1: test doesn't compute, the numbers don't compute, what's computing. They
Speaker 1: keep telling me he's breaking records, But the records I'm
Speaker 1: seeing is Lamar Jackson is breaking records and they're gonna
Speaker 1: continue to be broken. And again, if you just keep looking,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep putting the graphic out there's a
Speaker 1: graphic out there. Thirty five plus touchdowns under five interceptions.
Speaker 1: MVP is what they are awarded to those players. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans. That's not me making it up. That's what
Speaker 1: it's been.
Speaker 2: Now. Can it change? Sure doesn't make sense to change it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't unless Lamar Jackson does not play well over
Speaker 1: these next two games and Josh Allen plays out of
Speaker 1: his mind, and maybe maybe the Tennessee Chiefs lose two games,
Speaker 1: Buffalo grabs the one seed, all everything points to Josh
Speaker 1: Allen carrying an MVP trophy out. But if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson has two d games where he doesn't
Speaker 1: throw an interception, he throws for two touchdowns, maybe runs
Speaker 1: for one. It throws for two, runs for one again,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a hard argument saying a guy with
Speaker 1: forty six total touchdowns and two interceptions, i mean four
Speaker 1: interceptions doesn't deserve the MVP.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we shall see, Richard. There's a couple of
Speaker 3: games left here and it's still a battle for that MVP.
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the New York Football Jets,
Speaker 3: not the Giants, and the LA Rams. Vegas did not
Speaker 3: like this game so much. For the Rams, they only
Speaker 3: favored him by three points, and we saw it potentially
Speaker 3: as a trap game for the LA Rams going on
Speaker 3: the road again, going across coast to a very cold
Speaker 3: environment in New York and the j e Ts Jets
Speaker 3: Jets Jets looked like the team to beat early on,
Speaker 3: and kudos to this LA Rams team being able to
Speaker 3: pull it off.
Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: He saw Tyler Higbee come back. Thank god he's back
Speaker 3: after the devastating knee injury he took in Detroit last
Speaker 3: year with the game winning touchdown pass from Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3: This marks four wins in a row five of six
Speaker 3: for the La Rams. This La Rams team is getting
Speaker 3: hot at the right time, similar to how they did
Speaker 3: last year. How much do you believe in the La Rams?
Speaker 3: You know entering this playoffs in the NFC with the
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions injured, the Philadelphia Eagles facing adversity late in
Speaker 3: the season with Jalen Hurts going down with a concussion. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings still playing competitive, But can we throw
Speaker 3: the La Rams hat in the ring as true contenders
Speaker 3: in the NFC?
Speaker 1: Well, give Chris Shula a lot of credit for taking
Speaker 1: the lowest paid defense in the National Football League and
Speaker 1: making something out of it. You know, hild their last
Speaker 1: two opponents under ten points back to back weeks. It's
Speaker 1: impressive to do that. Shout out to a Kello. Witherspoon
Speaker 1: made some really good plays this week and last week,
Speaker 1: playing out of his mind, starting to play like the
Speaker 1: guy that I think everybody in San Francisco knew he
Speaker 1: could be anytimes.
Speaker 2: Stafford's in it. All bets are off with me. Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I'm not betting on that game. I'm not betting against them.
Speaker 1: I'm not betting Witty because he gonna he gonna make
Speaker 1: it shake. And the way Pokin Naku is playing, the
Speaker 1: way Cooper Cup continues to play, and if they if
Speaker 1: they find a way to get to to that well
Speaker 1: out there as much as they can, they can do
Speaker 1: something cool.
Speaker 2: Tyler Higbee's back.
Speaker 1: That's a guy who who Stafford has liked and during
Speaker 1: his time in in LA obviously Kyern Williams and the
Speaker 1: way he's been running the ball. If they're playing good
Speaker 1: defense and offensively scheming it up like they have, anything's
Speaker 1: possible in these playoffs. And none of these teams look
Speaker 1: totally unbeatable. None of these teams look like their world beaters.
Speaker 1: They run into the right matchup, they can find a way, Mitchell.
Speaker 1: They run into the Minnesota Vikings in the first round.
Speaker 1: Who knows, they'll be at home, you know, if they
Speaker 1: can win this division, they'll be at home in LA
Speaker 1: playing the Minnesota Vikings. They're not having to go to Elements.
Speaker 1: You put Stafford in that stadium, and so far, anything's possible, Mitchell.
Speaker 1: And they're playing good defense, they believe you know, they
Speaker 1: got the underdog mentality. They're playing with house money. Why
Speaker 1: not Saturday we had two showcase games. I mean, the
Speaker 1: NFL couldn't have dreamed up two better games to have
Speaker 1: on this Saturday slate. Kansas City Chiefs hosting the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans was the first one, and Mahomes supposedly had a
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. Everyone was saying, oh my gosh, he's
Speaker 1: so bruised and battered, and you know the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: are going to take advantage of them, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: It certainly didn't look like it out there. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: at one of his better games in the season in
Speaker 3: terms of just controlling this game early and often. He
Speaker 3: threw for two hundred and sixty yards at a rushing
Speaker 3: TV early in this game. He got if you're worthy
Speaker 3: involved heavily, you hate to see Tank Dell go out
Speaker 3: with the injury he did. Houston Texans are just battling
Speaker 3: injuries in their wide receiving corps. You're hearing rumors that
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham Junior might join that fold.
Speaker 2: We shall see. But the Chiefs just keep.
Speaker 3: On winning and winning and winning and winning and winning
Speaker 3: and say it with me, Richard and winning. They just
Speaker 3: they cannot find a way to lose.
Speaker 2: Richard.
Speaker 3: What's it gonna take to beat this Kansas City Chiefs team.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna take some pass rushers. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: not missing sacks on Patrick Mahomes. It's gonna take mistake
Speaker 1: free football. And you know they've they've moved Toney out
Speaker 1: to left tackle. They switched Colleendo into guard to replace Tony,
Speaker 1: and they're shuffling this offensive line to make things work,
Speaker 1: but you see it's creating more issues. They're getting more
Speaker 1: interior pressure from the defense than they used to give
Speaker 1: up with Tony on the inside. So I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have the teams are gonna have to get home,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take high Smith, TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward,
Speaker 1: Preston Smith to really show what is capable, what teams
Speaker 1: can be capable of if they attack these tackles and
Speaker 1: find a way to win inside and not miss sacks
Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, that ankle isn't in two out
Speaker 1: of shape. He ran a lot this game. He used
Speaker 1: his legs a lot, He got out of bounds, he
Speaker 1: got himself to safety. There's a little bit of limping,
Speaker 1: but he had thirty three rush yards. He had the
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown from pick at least fifteen yards out. Took
Speaker 1: a hit in that got up, kept going. Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: eleven carries fifty five yards in the touchdown.
Speaker 2: Xavier' Worthy. They found ways to get him the ball
Speaker 2: in the run game.
Speaker 1: In the past game, our guy for End of the Program,
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, back to back games with an interception. Congress
Speaker 1: to him. I told him we'd have him back if
Speaker 1: he got another. If he got his first interception, He's
Speaker 1: got two, so we got to get him on the schedule.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about it before these playoffs. They
Speaker 1: gonna get to buy so maybe we can get to
Speaker 1: catch them in the bye week. Jayden Hicks also had
Speaker 1: an interception, but I think c J. Stroud and Houston
Speaker 1: Texans played a really good game. They just ran out
Speaker 1: of steam. They emotions got to him. When Tank Dale
Speaker 1: had that tragic injury that looked horrible and don't ever
Speaker 1: replay it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it. You know, I think
Speaker 2: that took their hearts.
Speaker 1: You know, they continue to go out there and play
Speaker 1: but football's emotional game when you care about people that
Speaker 1: you're playing with, and I think that took an emotional
Speaker 1: toll on this team, especially on the quarterback.
Speaker 2: You could see him visibly hurt and frustrated by it.
Speaker 2: That matters. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know how much people want want these people to
Speaker 1: be robots, but they're not. They're not robots. They're human,
Speaker 1: human beings. And you could see the connection and the
Speaker 1: camaraderie and the brotherhood that he and Tankdale have had.
Speaker 1: I think he was a big reason that the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans drafted Tankdale. I think they've developed a friendship. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he cares about that human being a tremendous amount. He
Speaker 1: felt like he put him in harm's way. Tank Deal
Speaker 1: did everything he could to bring that pass in to
Speaker 1: at least make it a touchdown without the major injury.
Speaker 1: We still haven't got a lot of information on that,
Speaker 1: but things like that take an emotional toll on the team,
Speaker 1: you know, and they can send you one way and
Speaker 1: you go out there and fight for your teammate. But
Speaker 1: I think they sent this young team into shock a
Speaker 1: little bit. Obviously, Nico Collins coming back has helped them.
Speaker 1: Tankdale had six catches for ninety eight yards in a
Speaker 1: touchdown before he left. They're gonna find have to find
Speaker 1: a way to replace that kind of production. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: just said Odell Beckham Junior might be called. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if he has what he used to have in
Speaker 1: the tank, but it'll be better than what they have
Speaker 1: without Tankdale, without Stefan Diggs, who they came into the
Speaker 1: season with.
Speaker 2: They're gonna need some help to get some of that
Speaker 2: production back.
Speaker 1: But your prayers up to Tankdale and hoping that he
Speaker 1: could get that fixed and that he comes out and
Speaker 1: heals quickly and is able to get back out there
Speaker 1: playing a game that he loves, because that was a
Speaker 1: devastating injury.
Speaker 2: C J. Stroud was visibly shaken up, and that changes
Speaker 2: the complexity of the game.
Speaker 1: Chiefs have now won sixteen straight one possession games. I
Speaker 1: told you, Mitchell, they could go they could get put
Speaker 1: out in Divisional, or they could win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: by a field goal walking off. You don't really know.
Speaker 2: They found a way to win every other game at
Speaker 2: this point. It's not luck. They got a system and
Speaker 2: they're executing.
Speaker 3: No question, and they get Hollywood Brown back here soon.
Speaker 3: I see they activate them off Ir at least activated
Speaker 3: his practice window. We'll see how that transpires. Both of
Speaker 3: these teams are going to be playing on Christmas Day.
Speaker 3: They only got a couple of days to recover. Chiefs
Speaker 3: had Steelers, the Texans hosts the Ravens. It's going to
Speaker 3: be an awesome Christmas Richard. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 3: about that Baltimore Ravens Steelers game. This game was tight,
Speaker 3: It could have gone either way, and then you talked
Speaker 3: about it. Lamar Jackson kind of took over late and
Speaker 3: ultimately blew this game wide open. The Baltimore Ravens go
Speaker 3: home of victor thirty four to seventeen.
Speaker 2: But it was tied.
Speaker 3: You know, it was tied early in the second half,
Speaker 3: and the Pittsburgh overcame some adversity down ten late in
Speaker 3: that first half and ultimately tied it up. But Baltimore
Speaker 3: comes away the victor. To me, this Baltimore team is
Speaker 3: starting a fire at the right time because you look
Speaker 3: at Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and the maturity is a
Speaker 3: flowers he and Mark Andrews is finally healthy, and Isaiah
Speaker 3: likely there's so many contributors to this Ravens team. I
Speaker 3: would be putting some money on Baltimore to come away
Speaker 3: with the AFC crown. I really like what they've got
Speaker 3: going here, and to take down a division FO that
Speaker 3: is really beaten up on him quite a bit. The
Speaker 3: Ravens have beat the Steelers just twice in the last
Speaker 3: ten games, and for them to double them up this
Speaker 3: Saturday was impressive to me. Richard, how much do you
Speaker 3: like the Ravens right now?
Speaker 1: I really like them and I like what they're doing
Speaker 1: because they're running Derrick Henry. He had twenty four carries
Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty two yards. And I said
Speaker 1: this earlier in the season.
Speaker 2: Run it. That's the formula. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson makes his impact throws the football all around
Speaker 1: the yard. He has this impact running it when he
Speaker 1: has to. Dereck Henry twenty plus carries, twenty plus carries.
Speaker 1: I believe they have a high probability to winning that game.
Speaker 1: It's not fool proof, you know, you still have to
Speaker 1: do other things right. They still needed to play good defense,
Speaker 1: and they did. Marlon Humphries, who's having an All Pro
Speaker 1: season even despite missing a couple of games, having an
Speaker 1: All Pro season, had a thirty seven yard pick six
Speaker 1: that blew this game open. Russell had the fumble and
Speaker 1: the red zone on an incredible run on an incredible
Speaker 1: scramble that took points off the board. The last nine
Speaker 1: games have been decided by seven points. Are fewer between
Speaker 1: these teams. This game obviously seventeen point win by the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. A lot of it came because of those turnovers.
Speaker 1: But a guy that's made a lot of money by
Speaker 1: not playing George Pickens, George Pickens. This offense has averaged
Speaker 1: nineteen points a game the three weeks without George Pickens.
Speaker 1: George Pickens is out with a hamstring, and sometimes your
Speaker 1: value shows when you're not there. Sometimes absence makes the
Speaker 1: heart grow fonder. And I don't think Pittsburgh fans could
Speaker 1: be any more fond of George Pickens than they are
Speaker 1: right now because they know how much they need him
Speaker 1: in order for this offense to go. I think they
Speaker 1: appreciate the way he impacts the game a lot more
Speaker 1: right now than they ever have before. And they're gonna
Speaker 1: need him healthy in the playoffs to make a run
Speaker 1: because they're stumbling. And they have a game in three
Speaker 1: days against the Kansas City Chiefs, and I think hopefully
Speaker 1: he's back.
Speaker 2: For that game.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a doll fight even
Speaker 1: if he is back, because the Kansas City Chiefs are
Speaker 1: trying to lock up home field advantage so they can
Speaker 1: rest Patrick Mahons in that ankle for two weeks before
Speaker 1: they have a divisional game.
Speaker 2: But their d line isn't going to just give up.
Speaker 2: Alex Hedge Smith had a sack in this game.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of pressures over there on Ronnie Staley,
Speaker 1: but Minka Fitzpatrick had an interception.
Speaker 2: Their defense is still capable of getting things done.
Speaker 1: The things that make Russell Wilson really picture perfect for
Speaker 1: this offense is when their running game is reliable with
Speaker 1: Naji Harris and Jalen Warren and he's able to drop back,
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field, play mistake free football,
Speaker 1: don't give the ball to the other team, and they
Speaker 1: can win these games. But when you turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: you throw a pick six, you fumble the ball in
Speaker 1: your red zone, that's when these games can get out
Speaker 1: of hand. So again, I think they understand the formula.
Speaker 1: He understands the formula. You got to take care of
Speaker 1: the football they got to be able to run the
Speaker 1: ball better than they did this game, and defensively, they
Speaker 1: got to give him a few more cracks at it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Menka Fitzpatrick interception was one, but they need another
Speaker 1: one and that's going to be their formula for win
Speaker 1: any these playoffs and getting upset. But you're right, Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens are playing as good as anyone right now, and
Speaker 1: that AFC is up for grabs. I don't think you
Speaker 1: feel like the Kansas City Chiefs are a juggernaut. I
Speaker 1: don't feel like the Buffalo Bills are a juggernaut. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Baltimore Ravens are afraid of to go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo and run the ball and play in the
Speaker 1: cold to frigid. I don't think they're scared to going
Speaker 1: to Kansas City and playing a fridge of coal. I
Speaker 1: think they're more than likely going to have to go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo to seeing at how things are gonna shake.
Speaker 2: Out right now.
Speaker 1: But I think Baltimore would be favored in that game
Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry and what he's been able to do,
Speaker 1: and you know, depending on how Buffalo ends this season.
Speaker 3: Well, Richard, we're almost at the finish side of this
Speaker 3: regular season. Week sixteen is almost over. I will let
Speaker 3: you sign us off my front.
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