Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic girl cheering for the drama Queen's Girl fashion.
Speaker 1: But you're tough girls. You can sit with us Girls Drama, Queens, Drama,
Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama. Queens bring us in.
Speaker 1: So we okay, guys, sweet sweet baby Jesus, this is
Speaker 1: a good tough watch. What I almost feel like it's
Speaker 1: a pattern that we get such a great episode and
Speaker 1: then we go, oh, there it is, and then we
Speaker 1: lose get it. It's it's like toxic love. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. Maybe that goes too far anyway,
Speaker 1: about everyone, We're We've just watched season two episodes three,
Speaker 1: near Wild Heaven, Harry and I feel like we might
Speaker 1: have been in hell. That's that's actually exactly perfect purgatory. Indeed.
Speaker 1: This show first aired October five, two four, and the
Speaker 1: synopsis is although Nathan and Haley are already married, Tim
Speaker 1: insists on throwing Nathan a post wedding bachelor party, while
Speaker 1: Brooke throws Haley a bachelorette. Meanwhile, Lucas tries to decide
Speaker 1: whether he should visit Dan in the hospital. Okay, but
Speaker 1: here's what the real episode is about. Just strippers. Like
Speaker 1: the thing is just a it's a fantasy of what
Speaker 1: teenagers are into. Um, I don't know any sixteen year
Speaker 1: olds ever who had the courage, capability, financial liquidity, or frankly,
Speaker 1: like even the thought to try to hire a stripper.
Speaker 1: Strippers were grown up. Well, yeah, that's a like is
Speaker 1: it a felony to hire one if you're underage, like
Speaker 1: for them to perform for children? So the answer is
Speaker 1: because Sofia, this happened to me the day I graduated
Speaker 1: high school. So my girlfriends at home, we're listening to
Speaker 1: this is gonna be like, oh no, she's throwing us
Speaker 1: under the bus. What happened? We graduated and there was
Speaker 1: like a pool party the last day of senior year
Speaker 1: of high school, and so we all went to the
Speaker 1: community pool. It was sponsored by the school, and one
Speaker 1: of our classmates, who was like super cool, was eighteen,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm going to get us a hotel
Speaker 1: room tonight so we can have a slumber party. And
Speaker 1: we're thinking, like, oh, my god, that's crazy. Like we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a hotel room slumber party. That's insane. We
Speaker 1: get to the hotel and then she springs it on us.
Speaker 1: She's like and and yes, end, I've also hired a stripper.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa, I'm Queen Virgin. Man. I'm like,
Speaker 1: no way, not happening. So this dude shows up dressed
Speaker 1: as a bad cowboy and there's like everyone there's under
Speaker 1: eighteen except our friend who hired him. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: we look like babies. We look like babies on this show,
Speaker 1: and we were twenty two back when we were really babies,
Speaker 1: were definitely babies. And he proceeds to like put putting
Speaker 1: on my friend and lick it off. No, it was
Speaker 1: brought a duffle bag full of like jello putting. You know.
Speaker 1: It was incredibly inappropriate. And so he like went to
Speaker 1: every girl and I had seated myself, you know, like
Speaker 1: in hotel rooms how they have the side table with
Speaker 1: the lamp. I was like in a back corner with
Speaker 1: a lamp, and as he started to walk towards me,
Speaker 1: I was like, nope, done, called the cops. Done done,
Speaker 1: And that dude got dressed so fast. Uh yeah, he
Speaker 1: jokingly was like, you guys are eighteen, right, and everyone
Speaker 1: just kind of looked around. It's so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: all fun and games like this episode, Like, no, guys,
Speaker 1: the reality is that it's like mortifying and can be funny,
Speaker 1: but only only when the adults in the room are
Speaker 1: the ones that are embarrassed, because they should be. Um,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to card card. It's a really simple process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just it weirds me out the number of times
Speaker 1: that things were written for us to portray that border
Speaker 1: into not only things that are just straight up illegal,
Speaker 1: but like, why did the grown ups we worked for
Speaker 1: I think it was okay, whether it was Nikki saying
Speaker 1: to Jake, has she likes them young? Or these this woman,
Speaker 1: this adult woman stripper that Tim's brother hired telling Nathan
Speaker 1: you're young, you're funny like this this guy stripping for
Speaker 1: all these girls, Like oh man, I just remember how
Speaker 1: uncomfortable it was, And I'm like, who are these people
Speaker 1: we worked for who thought this was acceptable? By the way,
Speaker 1: we know who they were, and I promise you no
Speaker 1: one wanted to have sex with them when they were teenagers.
Speaker 1: That's just the well, they used to yell at us
Speaker 1: about that. So I remember remember coming up in season
Speaker 1: three when I went to do that movie on Hiatus
Speaker 1: and I cut my bangs, and he shall not be
Speaker 1: named screamed at me. The first thing we were at
Speaker 1: working was like all the cheerleaders in at school, they
Speaker 1: all had bangs. None of them ever wanted to me,
Speaker 1: and I hate women with bangs. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying to me is so far
Speaker 1: past the line that, um, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: respond to you. Is that the name of this? There's
Speaker 1: so much uh, yeah, there's If there's ever an episode
Speaker 1: where people are like, oh, we can see what's going
Speaker 1: on behind the curtain on One Tree Hill, this is
Speaker 1: one of those episodes. So let's start what happened at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, because okay, the beginning actually opened
Speaker 1: in the sweetest way on us hanging that beautiful board
Speaker 1: of polaroids. Those polaroids are so iconic. We were like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is so sweet. We love this. And
Speaker 1: then poor Brett Clay, well, I mean, what a sweet man,
Speaker 1: what a sweet actor. This is when they really started
Speaker 1: to pick on Brett in the writer's room and make
Speaker 1: him do very inappropriate things. You know. This is when
Speaker 1: they had characters start calling him dim um and and
Speaker 1: they they had him quote ordering strippers on the phone
Speaker 1: as though he were ordering take out right. It was
Speaker 1: a very racist little ramp. It was very racist and inappropriate.
Speaker 1: And I just really feel him. You know, you're a
Speaker 1: good actor. And he committed because that's his job, and
Speaker 1: they always lorded his job over him. So he's like,
Speaker 1: if I don't show up and do this, they just
Speaker 1: bobwing me back. Yeah. Yeah, And I think that that's
Speaker 1: such an immense amount of pressure to put on a
Speaker 1: young person, oh man, But he sells it and he
Speaker 1: makes Tim a lovable character because he is so messy. Um.
Speaker 1: They could have they could have given him a layer
Speaker 1: of humanity, Poor poor sweet Tim. And you know what
Speaker 1: else they did in that opening scene that we didn't like.
Speaker 1: They made fun of Joyce satin bra, which we love
Speaker 1: so much. Okay, So just so you guys know that
Speaker 1: was a calculated move because you've seen or you've heard,
Speaker 1: uh in the episode where Haley and Nathan finally get together, like,
Speaker 1: joy put a lot of thought into what she was
Speaker 1: going to wear in that scene. She didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be like a wonder bral you know, like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of thought, and we loved it. You know,
Speaker 1: we made her look vulnerable and young and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of bohemian and cool, and so by scripting it
Speaker 1: in to this episode, that was a way to make
Speaker 1: fun of her and her choices. But like, no, it's
Speaker 1: not us, it's the storyline. And so Zophie and I
Speaker 1: both like cringed when we saw that because we you know,
Speaker 1: we knew what was going on behind the curtain um
Speaker 1: and I like that. Bro I stand by it. I
Speaker 1: stand by it too. And and it was difficult for
Speaker 1: all of us. It was difficult for Tim to have
Speaker 1: to say things he didn't agree with. It was difficult
Speaker 1: for us as women to go, oh, so you guys
Speaker 1: and the writers who want to make fun of Joy
Speaker 1: and you're going to make Hilary and Sophia do it
Speaker 1: as Brooke and Peyton, and they're like, oh, we need
Speaker 1: to upgrade you, upgrade you to what like some male
Speaker 1: stand up pin up fantasy, which is what this entire
Speaker 1: episode is like, very girl. I just love that we
Speaker 1: checked our boot cut jeans one for this. I also
Speaker 1: love that we huddled in the back of that party
Speaker 1: bus when the boy stripper came because we were all
Speaker 1: so genuinely terrified. Can we tell the story? Is it bad?
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I don't think a story. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is one of the iconic stories of our little trio,
Speaker 1: um and a really like bonding moment for the three
Speaker 1: of us because we were all equally scandalized. So give
Speaker 1: it to them, man. Okay. So this gentleman, a real pro,
Speaker 1: shows up. You know the gag we play, which I
Speaker 1: actually really appreciated this, like, you know, Brooke and Peyton
Speaker 1: have orchestrated this whole thing. We call each other, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we call each other Cameron and Gwen, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is very cute. I like this. And you know,
Speaker 1: we pretend that the party bus is broken down and
Speaker 1: get the driver to pretend to yeah, and the driver
Speaker 1: we were like seller acting sir um. So this mechanic
Speaker 1: shows up, like we can't call Lucas. So some other
Speaker 1: tow truck comes and the mechanic is a stripper. Now
Speaker 1: we don't know anything, We don't know who he is
Speaker 1: or what his credentials are. And he's like, oh no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a real stripper. This is my thing,
Speaker 1: starts telling us about where he dances, and like I
Speaker 1: must be like genuinely like like interested, like tell us everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that like for you? Yeah? And also like
Speaker 1: did you play sports in high school? And like who
Speaker 1: taught you? Like who who got you into the game?
Speaker 1: You know. Like he was an interesting dude to talk
Speaker 1: to and was actually very respectful of us, because I
Speaker 1: think he could tell that we weren't like I think
Speaker 1: he's probably used to women aggling him and like wanting
Speaker 1: to touch him and stuff, and we definitely didn't want
Speaker 1: to touch him, like we were like we're professional, we're
Speaker 1: very nervous. What I do remember is that the story
Speaker 1: we're about to tell was the turning point. Like he
Speaker 1: came in all with all his swagger, expecting to be
Speaker 1: hit on because he's a performer and like you said,
Speaker 1: he's very used to being ougled and objectified and whatever.
Speaker 1: And he he did his bit for us, and we
Speaker 1: were all so taken aback if we didn't respond very
Speaker 1: quickly and perhaps we're projecting, but very quickly he was like,
Speaker 1: oh dear, this is not okay. And then he got
Speaker 1: really chill with us and like just told us his story.
Speaker 1: But his his gag was, you know, he had his
Speaker 1: rip away track pants on, and he came on the
Speaker 1: party bus after we did the initial scene and he goes,
Speaker 1: I can't even say I still at first because because
Speaker 1: we were I don't know how it came up. I
Speaker 1: vaguely remember a story about like body hair removal or
Speaker 1: something like this, requirements of butts. He was telling us
Speaker 1: that all the mail strippers shave their butts, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. And we were like, wow, your job is crazy,
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, you know, there's a lot that
Speaker 1: goes into it, and something about like how you make yourself,
Speaker 1: I don't know, look valuable. You guys, I'm sweating on
Speaker 1: the inside of you know, we're both so sweaty. I
Speaker 1: had a robe on while we were latching the episode
Speaker 1: and I had to take it off because it's like
Speaker 1: we're pre menopausal of this. We're like, I'm so anxious,
Speaker 1: I'm having a hot flush. Um. So he says, essentially
Speaker 1: he's giving us the cute lines about how you get
Speaker 1: ready for being this hot guy, and I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1: He's got his track pants on and no shirt, and
Speaker 1: he leans in and he says, and you know, the
Speaker 1: most valuable part, the most valuable thing I have from
Speaker 1: my job, I'm a cock hung below the knee with
Speaker 1: your name on it. And we froze. We just shut
Speaker 1: down entirely. I still, I've got goosebumps all over my arms.
Speaker 1: So because it's mortified, my whole bad. He feels my
Speaker 1: chest is so tight. I remember, like in my head,
Speaker 1: I know that we were with our whole crew. You know,
Speaker 1: there were lots of people around, but when that happened,
Speaker 1: there was just a group of girls in lingerie tops
Speaker 1: on a bus with a man who was older than us.
Speaker 1: And I genuinely I felt threatened. And and I know
Speaker 1: that wasn't his intention. And as he says it to us,
Speaker 1: and we all look around frozen, he's not paying attention
Speaker 1: because he's rolling up his left pant leg and he
Speaker 1: and he rolls his pant leg up to his knee
Speaker 1: and then he puts his heel on like the top.
Speaker 1: And there is a tattoo, you guys, of a rooster
Speaker 1: hung by its feet, hanging upside down, and it has
Speaker 1: a banner across it, like one of those banners people
Speaker 1: get across hearts that say mom, but in the banner
Speaker 1: it says the words your name on it. It's below
Speaker 1: his knee. Friends, a rooster hung by the feet from
Speaker 1: the side of this man's kneecap with a banner, so
Speaker 1: a quote cock with your name on it. And we
Speaker 1: all were like, we were so relieved. I was so
Speaker 1: weird because I had no idea what he was doing
Speaker 1: with his pants when he went to show this to us,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is gonna go so bad, this
Speaker 1: is gonna go so bad. And you know that the
Speaker 1: nervous energy of just like, oh oh, this is like
Speaker 1: a very like it's very much a joke, but that
Speaker 1: he has on his body permanently forever. And then when
Speaker 1: he looked up like huzza, here's my joke. I think
Speaker 1: he I really believe that he saw the shock on
Speaker 1: our faces and was like, oh no, man, these girls
Speaker 1: are babies, and very quickly rolled the leg down and
Speaker 1: then just started to tell us all the secrets of stripping.
Speaker 1: And I will say thank you to this actor who
Speaker 1: he was hooked up on the vibe and immediately changed
Speaker 1: course and was honestly just so lovely to us and
Speaker 1: put in such an awkward position. Exactly, Hey, dude, all
Speaker 1: the all the directors and all the dps and everyone
Speaker 1: else will be out like in the road, while you
Speaker 1: guys are just on the bus and just at Natural,
Speaker 1: just at Natural. So he's doing what he knows how
Speaker 1: to do. And we have also been so traumatized that
Speaker 1: we're just like, I don't know what's happening. This whole
Speaker 1: episode is about nudity and weirdness, and we'd like the
Speaker 1: prude girls. But by the way, like, had that happened today,
Speaker 1: Like if we were on set today and some like
Speaker 1: dude rolled in with this story, you and I would
Speaker 1: be like salty and down with it and just another
Speaker 1: one captain. You know, It's just I'd be like rolling
Speaker 1: up again. I want to take a video for my
Speaker 1: Instagram story on Instagram. That's exactly what would happen. But
Speaker 1: that has been a story that we've privately enjoyed forever. Listen,
Speaker 1: can we find him? Do we know what his name is?
Speaker 1: I wonder you know what? Like, I bet he's a
Speaker 1: dad out that's the thing. It's Eric mean, Eric, Eric
Speaker 1: with ah Eric, Hey, Eric, if you're out there, hit
Speaker 1: us up on our drama Queens page because you were
Speaker 1: great man. Yeah, you made you made what was an
Speaker 1: awkward day at work incredibly memorable. Yeah. Just talk about
Speaker 1: being a team player. And do you still have that tattoo? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And like, have you inspired other people in your industry
Speaker 1: to get that tattoo or was that an industry standard.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know when you see people with the
Speaker 1: Masonic ring and you're like, oh, you're a Freemason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Gus, that tattoo kind of code for when
Speaker 1: you're at the supermarket and you're like, set boss, we'll
Speaker 1: see you later. Um. I don't know. Is it a
Speaker 1: tattoo you're only allowed to get when you graduate to
Speaker 1: a certain level? Like, well, well, did that joke end
Speaker 1: up being in Magic Mike. I loved Magic Mike because
Speaker 1: it minded me of this dude, because you were like
Speaker 1: learning all the trade secrets and they were kind of demystifying.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much talk about females who get
Speaker 1: into stripping, but not a ton about boys. At that point.
Speaker 1: Magic Mike was the first time anyone ever, you know,
Speaker 1: aside from those Chippendale skits on snl um, no one
Speaker 1: else really talked about it. Um. Yeah, all right, well
Speaker 1: that was a weird night. Yeah, us going to the
Speaker 1: lingerie shop again after hours book Davis had a key
Speaker 1: to that store at sixteen come what you know who? Bevin.
Speaker 1: Bevin gave me such deb Scott energy in this episode.
Speaker 1: It reminded me when Barbara came on during our season
Speaker 1: one rewatch and was talking about Oh no, I felt great.
Speaker 1: I wanted to jump in it. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: put it on film forever, and and Bevin was so like,
Speaker 1: this is hilarious and I look awesome, and you're good
Speaker 1: for you dude. She inspired me to try to be
Speaker 1: more comfortable with my body. I I love varying levels
Speaker 1: of comfort in women, because what I never want to
Speaker 1: do is like shame women who are like, no, my
Speaker 1: body's awesome, look at it, or women who are like,
Speaker 1: don't touch me. You know, there's everyone's got their own
Speaker 1: comfort level, and it comes to you in different phases
Speaker 1: of your life. And you and I being cancer babies,
Speaker 1: you know, like being born so close together and being
Speaker 1: like very guarded little princesses. Growing up, we were square
Speaker 1: as all so real square, and we ended up turning
Speaker 1: into monsters as we got older. But um, we certainly
Speaker 1: weren't there Season two definitely not no. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's also really important. Everyone finds permission to be
Speaker 1: more and more of themselves, whether that's someone with very
Speaker 1: strong boundaries, someone who wants to get out there and
Speaker 1: date and experiment, someone who doesn't like. Whatever you feel
Speaker 1: is perfectly valid and great. And I will say one
Speaker 1: of the things that I appreciate, uh about our lives
Speaker 1: and their trajectories and you know, the things that have
Speaker 1: gone well and the mistakes that we've made. For me,
Speaker 1: what helped was being more of a late bloomer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always been slower to figure out that stuff. When
Speaker 1: it's when it's for us, when it's learning, when it's systems,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I get it. And when it's like
Speaker 1: how do I exist as a person in the world,
Speaker 1: how does this work? I've always been real slow and
Speaker 1: that's okay. You know. I think the stronger our boundaries are,
Speaker 1: the easier it is for us to loosen up in
Speaker 1: other areas. Do you know what I mean? Because when
Speaker 1: we're your kids, we don't have boundaries, So all of
Speaker 1: the lucy goosey stuff felt like very scary. And now
Speaker 1: I'm like don't touch me. You're cann look at it,
Speaker 1: but you don't. Don't think you're out your your fence
Speaker 1: posts kids, and then you can feel safe in your
Speaker 1: own yard. Well, and to your point, I think the
Speaker 1: most important thing is to not use whatever your personal
Speaker 1: feelings of discomfort are on your self discovery journey to
Speaker 1: judge other people. Some people come into themselves real fast.
Speaker 1: More power to them. Some people take a while, more
Speaker 1: power to them. Some people try, get scared, get hurt,
Speaker 1: or make a mistake and then go back in the
Speaker 1: other direction. More power to them. Let people figure themselves
Speaker 1: out and be kind like, none of us know anyone
Speaker 1: else's journey in the in the clearest terms. And so
Speaker 1: I really do think you're right. You hit the nail
Speaker 1: on the head when you said it's important to represent
Speaker 1: people at at varying levels. I liked that Bevin and
Speaker 1: Sarah were so comfortable in their bodies and loved being
Speaker 1: in lingerie. Oh my god, we celebrated them. And also
Speaker 1: I liked that that we got to represent girls who
Speaker 1: felt more like us, who were like I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet, maybe I'll learn, and and I like
Speaker 1: that we got to do I like that we got
Speaker 1: to run the gamut of that. Let's get there together.
Speaker 1: But let's do it like like like Grace and Frankie
Speaker 1: like we should do it in our O. My god,
Speaker 1: that is us. So if you and I are going
Speaker 1: to be seventy five years old, just like, who wants
Speaker 1: some of this? Okay, we've got our hotness queen joining us. Um,
Speaker 1: this is a special treat for you guys. So if
Speaker 1: do you want to bring her in? She is finally here,
Speaker 1: the icon herself, the woman who stayed on our show
Speaker 1: when we all felt like she should have been on us,
Speaker 1: And now we've got betting Prince on the podcast today.
Speaker 1: Everyone heyd. We were just giving the fans your intro
Speaker 1: and I was like, I thought you were going to
Speaker 1: pop in, and I was like, the woman who stayed
Speaker 1: on our show when we all thought she should have
Speaker 1: been on SNL, she's here, Bevin Prince. And then we
Speaker 1: were like, oh no, so that's what we said about
Speaker 1: you high Well, that's the nicest thing ever. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to see your faces. This is miss you guys
Speaker 1: so much. Tell me everyone't aged Bevin. This is some
Speaker 1: balloonek ton of boat talks and no filler. Okay, is
Speaker 1: that it? Yeah, that's the key. It's not farm life.
Speaker 1: And just like Kevin, duction on you at all times,
Speaker 1: because that's what I was trying and whatever. Both of
Speaker 1: you looked twelve. I watched the episode last night, which
Speaker 1: and all honest to you guys, that was the first
Speaker 1: time in like twenty years I've watched a full episode
Speaker 1: and that was a doozy. That was a doozy. I
Speaker 1: was traumatized nothing we're talking about. I was blown away.
Speaker 1: I was like, what kind of what kind of dirty?
Speaker 1: We didn't we were saying? We were like had last
Speaker 1: week was such a lovely episode. It was the Nathan
Speaker 1: and Haley wedding reception at Trick. Before it was Trick,
Speaker 1: we were like, got our show is so sweet and wonderful.
Speaker 1: Look at all these emotional conversations, and then we have
Speaker 1: full blown, like emotional whiplash this week. We're like, oh, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe we should just move on from this. Well, so, Bevin,
Speaker 1: you had already been living in Wilmington's and you were
Speaker 1: kind of our tour guide to the area. You were
Speaker 1: our introduction to like a lot of members of our community.
Speaker 1: You were like, I know it barred to go to
Speaker 1: you know, like you were a ringleader, and so can
Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit just like backstory wise,
Speaker 1: because the trajectory of like you being a cheerleader on
Speaker 1: the show to now having to strip on the show
Speaker 1: and run underwear. I need to know how your parents
Speaker 1: they handled that. It was your backstory. So we understand
Speaker 1: where we are in the sea where I came from,
Speaker 1: and um the prayers my mother has been saying for
Speaker 1: the past twenty years for my soul. Uh so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I grew up in North Carolina and Carry, which is
Speaker 1: two hours west of Wilmington's and my first year of
Speaker 1: college I went to NC State. But then you n
Speaker 1: c W opened the film program and in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be an actor. Did
Speaker 1: I know what that meant? No? Did I do any acting? No?
Speaker 1: Bring you things? You get to wear pretty dresses and
Speaker 1: someone does your hair and makeup. I want to do that.
Speaker 1: So I transferred to u n c W my sophomore
Speaker 1: year because it was the only program in the southeast,
Speaker 1: the only fund program in the southeast. Yeah. So um.
Speaker 1: I transferred to unt W and then was in turning
Speaker 1: to the casting office and the guy sitting next to
Speaker 1: me was like, um, he was putting together a folder
Speaker 1: of all the cheerleaders and he was like, Bevin, you
Speaker 1: were a dancer, you were a cheerleader. Do you have
Speaker 1: any interest in being a cheerleader on the show. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never been on set before. That
Speaker 1: would be cool. Maybe this is month. Um. So I
Speaker 1: was like, of course. And so then I started doing that.
Speaker 1: We were making seventy five dollars a day, shut up
Speaker 1: for you know, sixteen eighteen hour days. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like being in Dallas Cowboys cheerleader exactly, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So um, and I was still in college. I was
Speaker 1: like trying to finish my degree at the same time,
Speaker 1: which was kind of a was really calm plicated for me. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I think because we were displaced
Speaker 1: from Hollywood, I got to know you guys so well,
Speaker 1: and you know, so if especially you were such a
Speaker 1: champion for me along the way with everybody, and you know,
Speaker 1: and then they started to like, let me do things.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna name your character. Well you know what
Speaker 1: I remember, which was so funny because you know, all
Speaker 1: those all those early years when we were all together,
Speaker 1: like especially you and me and Daniella, like our our
Speaker 1: little group that we started to get so tight inside
Speaker 1: of meant that so often when we needed something, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be like, well, why don't we have Bevan
Speaker 1: say this? Like we Danielle should yell this, Like come on,
Speaker 1: it can't just be me, Hillary and Joy who are
Speaker 1: like the ones talking while everyone else is like smiling,
Speaker 1: and this is ridiculous. And and because no one knew
Speaker 1: how long the show was going to be on, where
Speaker 1: things were going to go. I think for the you know,
Speaker 1: the script supervisor and the A d s in their head,
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, great, so they just called you
Speaker 1: all by your names. And then one day someone said
Speaker 1: Bevin in an episode. And then I remember like four
Speaker 1: episodes later, everyone went, USh, we've actually named you your name.
Speaker 1: Sorry it was Hillary. And it was when we did
Speaker 1: um a fashion show. I don't know why we were
Speaker 1: doing it. I guess we were doing another like lingerie
Speaker 1: fashion show. Basically story, wasn't it always right? Because that's
Speaker 1: what teenagers do? Yeah, Like the teenagers now all were
Speaker 1: like big hoodie sweatshirts and like the Billie Eilish big yes,
Speaker 1: God bless that child. God bless her. I love it. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was Hillary, and so they were just like,
Speaker 1: I guess we gotta keep it. Didn't up your life,
Speaker 1: Bevan to like be on the street and have people
Speaker 1: be like Bevin and have them paying Now after you know,
Speaker 1: several generations have been exposed to this and you know,
Speaker 1: incredible show. People stop me and They're like, did you
Speaker 1: change your name to Stop And I'm like, no, yess
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm fully formed human here. No, I did
Speaker 1: not my name be a c W character's name. No,
Speaker 1: but that's a good story, Like that's credit murder. The
Speaker 1: whole cast, like Dad would be some serious single white females. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it was such a weird time though,
Speaker 1: like for those of you guys at home who don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's ancient, ancient history. But at the time
Speaker 1: Brett who plays Tim was dating Sarah Edwards or where's
Speaker 1: the red Lingerie in this show? And so it really
Speaker 1: did feel like we were all just like a pack
Speaker 1: of kids Roman Wilmington's together, like doing Halloween and going
Speaker 1: to Pravda and playing pool and like, yeahth terrible things. Well, Bevin,
Speaker 1: we told the story last week about how you know
Speaker 1: when people go like what was it like? And um,
Speaker 1: and also why did your show seem so messy? We
Speaker 1: were like y'all missed it. It was just us in
Speaker 1: a town full of college kids who were younger than
Speaker 1: us and then retired dads and granddad's playing golf like
Speaker 1: we were all we had. So we actually lived a
Speaker 1: high school teen drama like he really didn't in real life.
Speaker 1: And oh man, it was hilarious and the show I
Speaker 1: want to watch, honestly, same. I think about it all
Speaker 1: the time, you guys. I had written a treatment in
Speaker 1: like our trailer, because Sophia and I shared a trailer.
Speaker 1: I remember writing a treatment while we were on the
Speaker 1: screen gems lot because you know, we were surrounded by
Speaker 1: a huge chain link fence and there's like barbed wire
Speaker 1: atop the fence, and I remember fans lining up outside
Speaker 1: of the fence to like try and get autographs or
Speaker 1: take pictures, you know, back when we use disposable cameras
Speaker 1: instead of iPhones. And I remember it was before The
Speaker 1: Walking Dead ever aired, and I remember thinking, this is
Speaker 1: the best zombie movie ever, where like the whole world
Speaker 1: is infected except for this cast and crew of a
Speaker 1: teen trauma and they've got it's like we've got the
Speaker 1: catering department. We've got like all these different people who
Speaker 1: were skilled at things, who've got grips, electrics, you know,
Speaker 1: like build stuff, people who know how to arrive. But
Speaker 1: like who dies first? Like who dies in this situation first?
Speaker 1: It's definitely met even a question. I think I think
Speaker 1: the Bevin of the group is the one that makes
Speaker 1: it to the end. It's just like, handle this. I'm
Speaker 1: just really smart, right, Yeah, the last two left standing
Speaker 1: or Bevin and Skills, that would be my dream starting
Speaker 1: a new world. Well, and that was such a maze.
Speaker 1: I feel like turning point, at least in the way
Speaker 1: that I remember it. It's a bit of a blur
Speaker 1: because we did it for so long, But you know,
Speaker 1: Skills and Bevins start dating. And I really feel like
Speaker 1: you were so cemented into the show in that storyline.
Speaker 1: For you and Antone, what do you remember about that,
Speaker 1: like when they brought that to you, when they told
Speaker 1: you you were gonna truly become, you know, a part
Speaker 1: of the cast. What what was that experience when did
Speaker 1: you go for being a cast? Remember that was awesome.
Speaker 1: That was a good day. No, in all honesty, Like
Speaker 1: I remember it so clearly. I remember when they came
Speaker 1: to me and they told me that Bevin and Skills
Speaker 1: were going to have this romance. It was it's it's like,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to process because it kind of feels
Speaker 1: like winning the lottery, especially looking back at it, and
Speaker 1: you know, seeing how many incredible actors they're are out
Speaker 1: in the world that don't even get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: walk into the room to audition for You're really that
Speaker 1: you take what can be kind of clunky on a
Speaker 1: page and you make it fad. Yeah, well that's very kind,
Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, I I really do think I
Speaker 1: have a lot of skills, but I really don't think
Speaker 1: I know, Ben we Gotta. I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: jump on that moment for a second, because look, you're right,
Speaker 1: there's so many people out there in the world who
Speaker 1: want to do this, but there were also so many
Speaker 1: people on our set who wanted to do it. There's
Speaker 1: a reason we went to bat for you and said,
Speaker 1: give this girl lines like absolutely own hilarious. You know,
Speaker 1: we were like, that's the comedy gold, go go in
Speaker 1: that direction, and that was here. When I look back
Speaker 1: at it, there, I really, I really can find a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I'm incredibly proud of, right, I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that I'm super proud of
Speaker 1: is my ability to show up and show up really hard.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody asked me to shake my pom pom,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shake it lightly. Like I took
Speaker 1: that a day job very seriously. Like when I was
Speaker 1: told to cross the stage to the stage room, I
Speaker 1: crossed the room. Like maybe there's a scene in the
Speaker 1: last episode at Nathan and Haley's wedding reception where you're
Speaker 1: just dancing in the background and I could not see
Speaker 1: anything else going on because I was like, that looks
Speaker 1: so fun. We just kept saying over and over again,
Speaker 1: this looks like the best party ever because you're there,
Speaker 1: not even like the central character in the scene talking,
Speaker 1: You're there making it look like the best ever. And
Speaker 1: that's so much harder. That's like such a harder job.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. It was pretty painful to
Speaker 1: watch this episode and have all like the shots of
Speaker 1: me not saying anything but being behind you guys, just
Speaker 1: like nahing and being like like pointing and nodding and
Speaker 1: reacting non like, oh god, I love it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: Guys were adorable. Well what did your parents like when
Speaker 1: they had you in underwear? Like? Right up? You know?
Speaker 1: And honesty, my parents are not modest at all, like
Speaker 1: the really like it's not worse than a swimsuit, you know,
Speaker 1: and good people, so they don't they don't even think
Speaker 1: about it. They've never even talked about it, and you don't. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I feel like my mom might be proud of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: good girl, Well that's what we're saying. We're like, you
Speaker 1: know what would record that for all posterity? Yeah, heart
Speaker 1: media at all. But y'all can I get those boobs back? Please? Girl?
Speaker 1: I was talking about Joy's boobs the whole time we
Speaker 1: watched the episode, because I was like, you know, they've
Speaker 1: got this stripper coming over, but meanwhile, Hayley's like banging
Speaker 1: in this episode, and yeah, who needs a stripper? It
Speaker 1: is funny to look back. We've we've been laughing so much.
Speaker 1: Bevan on the show being like, oh man, we were
Speaker 1: all so self conscious and uncomfortable and like, look at us,
Speaker 1: can I have that back? Oh my god? The skin
Speaker 1: was like no idea. We had no idea, but you know,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what they say. I was about to
Speaker 1: say the most cliche thing. I'm just gonna say it,
Speaker 1: like that's probably why they say youth is wasted on
Speaker 1: the young. And I'm like, I'm just gonna go walk
Speaker 1: into traffic like I got who have I turned into?
Speaker 1: I am? I am my grandfather? Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: where we are now. You're gonna throw it out lightly
Speaker 1: as your own. So you you worked on One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill and then you worked on like a bunch of
Speaker 1: other stuff too. You were doing a movie, not great stuff,
Speaker 1: but you worked um, and then you moved here to
Speaker 1: New York, right, yeah, Well then after yeah, I moved
Speaker 1: first day to grad school in Savannah, Georgia. It's scad.
Speaker 1: How in the world did you finish college and grad school?
Speaker 1: Because Sophie and I dropped down we were like these guys.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like a you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting as much work as I wanted, and I
Speaker 1: was thinking that I was going to go into the
Speaker 1: production side of things with my undergraduate degree, and I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I would like the possibility of teaching
Speaker 1: one day, like I've always been interested in teaching and
Speaker 1: some capacity. So I was like, if I get my masters,
Speaker 1: I can teach anywhere. So I went got my masters,
Speaker 1: and I graduated Excelsis laureate, which is valedictorian of all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like my proud moment Bevin is the one that
Speaker 1: survives the zombie apocalypse. Yeah. So I did that in Savannah, Georgia,
Speaker 1: which was amazing. It was such an interesting experience to
Speaker 1: being twenty nine going back to school with twenty year
Speaker 1: olds who are like, you've already done it, what are
Speaker 1: you doing here? And I was like, I don't have
Speaker 1: a tool kit. I don't have at of tools to
Speaker 1: self validate, and this business is tearing me apart. It's
Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to validate my own work.
Speaker 1: Like if if I had gone in and auditioned and
Speaker 1: like I could be like, okay, I did this, this
Speaker 1: is and this it's not about me, it's you know,
Speaker 1: they can decide if I'm right for it or not.
Speaker 1: Move on, great job. I would think I would take
Speaker 1: it so personally, and you guys know, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: wildly insecure, young kid who just was finding her footing
Speaker 1: in l A and so it was the best decision
Speaker 1: for me to kind of pull myself away, and it
Speaker 1: was really just a shotgun course and like therapy and
Speaker 1: discovering who I am and humbleness and um, just a
Speaker 1: really really informative time for me. So I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of you. That's amazing. I think about that a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, Hillary, you said it. We didn't get to
Speaker 1: finish school. You know, I I missed my senior year
Speaker 1: in college because I booked the show. I remember thinking, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I can do both for five minutes and then realizing, like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I work eighteen hours to day, I can't
Speaker 1: also go to class, and I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: about that still. I think about how I would love
Speaker 1: to go back and finish I would just I would
Speaker 1: love it. Maybe that's the next show we do, Sophia,
Speaker 1: where we go back to college together. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of reality show I want to see.
Speaker 1: That's the only version of a reality show I would
Speaker 1: want to watch. Getting smarter personal growth. That feels great.
Speaker 1: I love that you did that. You feel like a
Speaker 1: liaison for us within the Wilmington community because you were
Speaker 1: actually in school and doing what we would be doing
Speaker 1: in a normal environment, and so you I was drawn
Speaker 1: to you because I wanted to be normalized in that way.
Speaker 1: I wanted what you had. And so then like you know,
Speaker 1: you would talk about campus and like you know, cheering
Speaker 1: at school and stuff like that, and I was so
Speaker 1: it was like a moth to a flame and like
Speaker 1: tell me everything, like what's it like? But then I
Speaker 1: also remember some like very restipal cheerleading practices we all
Speaker 1: had where we were all working like eighteen hours a day.
Speaker 1: You were trying to do school and also film with
Speaker 1: us for eighteen hours a day, and they're like, cool,
Speaker 1: you guys have a two hour dance rehearsal tonight and
Speaker 1: all of us just being like monsters. There was like
Speaker 1: who's that female choreographer they brought in that just car
Speaker 1: handle us? What was her name? I don't remember either.
Speaker 1: I can't remember her all googly eyed, like who are
Speaker 1: these little feral animals to teach them a dance? I
Speaker 1: think I strategically just put myself behind you always because
Speaker 1: I was like, Bevan's going to know the moves to
Speaker 1: get it quick, because I was like I have to
Speaker 1: write a paper. You. We always just tried to be
Speaker 1: close to you because I was like, if I can
Speaker 1: just if we're in a line, but I can be
Speaker 1: two steps behind her to the right, I can just
Speaker 1: see her enough out of my periphery, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: copy whatever she's doing. That's so interesting because me, like,
Speaker 1: as far as acting and the world of l A
Speaker 1: and all that, I felt that exact same sort of
Speaker 1: thing with you guys, Like I would just kind of
Speaker 1: stand a little bit behind you and watch you navigate
Speaker 1: all this, Like I had the biggest shotgun class in
Speaker 1: film and television acting by just working with you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys hold my hand through everything. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is a mark? I knew what to do? This
Speaker 1: director's being mean to me? What was that one director
Speaker 1: that made me cry? Remember that that oh god so mean?
Speaker 1: Nobody likes her and she made one scene it was?
Speaker 1: Was it the mom from Growing Pains? No, she made
Speaker 1: me cry, you do I will find her now. I
Speaker 1: know what you're thinking of, and I think I've like
Speaker 1: rage blocked her out of my brain. Was it when
Speaker 1: we did the date night when I like went off
Speaker 1: with mouth? It was the girl party? We had the
Speaker 1: boy draft, Boy draft, That's what it was, because there
Speaker 1: was a scene by the water film that I thought
Speaker 1: was supposed to be comedy, and she wanted it to
Speaker 1: be really actually sexy, and like, there's nothing funnier than
Speaker 1: me trying to be sexy. I don't know. We saw
Speaker 1: some sexy moves in this episode. I agree to crawl
Speaker 1: into a hole. When I saw that, I was like,
Speaker 1: turn it off my husband, and he was like, that's
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. Has he never seen it? No? He like
Speaker 1: he's British, Like I mean he did. His friends did, like,
Speaker 1: um watch it growing up, but he didn't, and so
Speaker 1: he gets very uncomfortable seeing people we know on television,
Speaker 1: like he he doesn't like that Jeffreys the show. Grant
Speaker 1: hasn't either. I can't believe you're marrying Grant. You guys,
Speaker 1: do you know that Tyler has merged because of Megan Tyler.
Speaker 1: Hilton has these hats that he makes for friends that
Speaker 1: say I've never seen one Tree Hill, And when I
Speaker 1: was catching up with them, Tyler found out Grant I
Speaker 1: never seen it and was like, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: a box of these hats showed up at our house.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to go in for Jeff
Speaker 1: All of our husband's got to wear these hats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably why we feel safe because we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know, fantastic, don't care. It's amazing though, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I have this studio here now and I'm
Speaker 1: just go but tell us how you got there. You
Speaker 1: and you're good at everything you do. And that's I
Speaker 1: think why we were also drawn to you, because you're
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm gonna act now and then I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, go back to college and be the best,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go to New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you literally rise to the top always. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Beyonce did not wake up like that. That's like my motto,
Speaker 1: Like she did not wake up like that. Girl started
Speaker 1: in her basement and she fell on her face over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. She tried some bad moves
Speaker 1: and you know, like worked. Yes, I still love the
Speaker 1: rhine Stones. I gotta be honest, but okay, I'm mad
Speaker 1: at that. You know, I love you know, I love
Speaker 1: a sparkly anything. I'm just like, Okay, I finished grad
Speaker 1: school and I was like, maybe I'll try um the
Speaker 1: East Coast because I you know, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: closer to my family. And that sort of thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna spend one year there because all
Speaker 1: my best girlfriends at this time we're in l A.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'll spend one year in New
Speaker 1: York and then I'll probably go back to l A.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna see and um, I was working
Speaker 1: for this producer and I got really close on this,
Speaker 1: like guests are role on showtime, and I just had
Speaker 1: to like sneak out of work and I'd tell him
Speaker 1: I was going to doctor's appointments and I was like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing. I just like, I need to
Speaker 1: quit this job if I'm really going to give acting
Speaker 1: a go. So I couldn't. And I never waited tables.
Speaker 1: And I walked into a bar down the street from
Speaker 1: where I lived on a hundred and seventh Street in
Speaker 1: New York. And I walked in. I was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh my god, you're that girl
Speaker 1: from One Tree Hill. And I was like I am
Speaker 1: and they were like, we waited tables and I was
Speaker 1: like no, and they're like, but you're that girl from
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill. Sure you can work here. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: love that. So I started waiting tables there, and then
Speaker 1: I moved over to a VC Coastino, which I saw
Speaker 1: soap at one it's so interesting. But people would come
Speaker 1: in and they'd be like, you were on a TV show.
Speaker 1: Why are you waiting tables? I was like, Uh, money
Speaker 1: doesn't last forever. Guys and I went to grad school
Speaker 1: and they weren't paying us really when we were kids.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a misnomer that everybody who ever gets
Speaker 1: a job in this industry is rich. And it's like
Speaker 1: five people get rich and nobody else does. So that's
Speaker 1: what it is and moving on. So it was and
Speaker 1: it was also cool because it gave me a lot
Speaker 1: of pride that I was willing to do whatever it took,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm thirty, I'm
Speaker 1: waiting tables in New York City, and I'm not above
Speaker 1: anything that's grad school in and of itself, waiting tables
Speaker 1: in New York exactly exactly. So, and then my husband
Speaker 1: walked in and I met him, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I damn it, I was going to move back to
Speaker 1: l A And now I'm going to stay in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so um, we fell in love, We got engaged
Speaker 1: very quickly within like three months. I didn't getting married
Speaker 1: for two years. And then, um, I was feeling really
Speaker 1: stuck in the city and feeling really claustrophobic. And I
Speaker 1: know when I feel that way that I have to
Speaker 1: try something new. It doesn't matter how small it is,
Speaker 1: Like it can literally be like you know, reading a
Speaker 1: new book, it can be anything. So um, there was
Speaker 1: a sole cycle underneath me. And so the last time
Speaker 1: I had been to a cycling classes with you in
Speaker 1: l A, Oh my god, that's summer that we were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna become gym people. And I think I went
Speaker 1: like four times. We definitely did you committed and you
Speaker 1: were like running all the time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't run unless I'm being chased, but you look amazing,
Speaker 1: like maybe I should try that, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't have it. You're naturally fit. No, but you're a sweet,
Speaker 1: sweet baby angel. I forgot about that. Bevin. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I wrote that day. I was like, no, but I
Speaker 1: remember that class being miserable. It was so hard. I
Speaker 1: was like, I never ever, why would anyone go inside
Speaker 1: and ride a bike that doesn't go anywhere? That's I've
Speaker 1: ever heard so stupid, but it was right underneath where
Speaker 1: I was staying. So I was like, fine, I'm gonna go,
Speaker 1: and I went in and I just fell head over
Speaker 1: heels in love. I felt a sense of freedom I
Speaker 1: hadn't felt since I was a little kid, like inhibition. Right,
Speaker 1: the lights were down, nobody was watching me. I was
Speaker 1: kind of dancing like a teenager again. I wasn't worried
Speaker 1: about anybody watching me. And I think for so many
Speaker 1: years I had gotten so deeply concerned with outside validation
Speaker 1: and what it looks like, what I look like from
Speaker 1: the outsid it in, and so finding that sense of
Speaker 1: freedom again was amazing, and I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to do that. So I reached out to them and
Speaker 1: I auditioned. Yea, you have auditions and they were like
Speaker 1: you really like you, You're funny or we like you,
Speaker 1: but um, you have no idea how to ride the bike.
Speaker 1: And I was like, give me a chance, I will
Speaker 1: learn how to ride the bike. So they put me
Speaker 1: through this shotgun program and then I started teaching, and
Speaker 1: seven years later I was training other instructors, a master instructor,
Speaker 1: and it was that was my class in finding my
Speaker 1: authentic voice, finding it and using it. And as much
Speaker 1: as that, like, I love acting. I loved acting with
Speaker 1: you guys. It was the most fun ever. I would
Speaker 1: do it again in a second. I don't love the business.
Speaker 1: I don't love auditioning. I'm not one of those people
Speaker 1: that loves it and so many people do. And I
Speaker 1: love teaching. You're a natural teacher, Like it's it's an
Speaker 1: easy thing for you because you make whatever you're doing fun.
Speaker 1: You can see it in the show, you can see
Speaker 1: it in your real life. You're like, Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to clean the kitchen. Let's make it fawn, you know.
Speaker 1: And and that's such a valuable person to have in
Speaker 1: our lives, is the person that cultivates fun. And it's
Speaker 1: always been you, Batman. Yeah, I want that on my tombstone,
Speaker 1: to cultivate fun. I don't want to see if anyone
Speaker 1: could make a tombstone, it's you. He'll I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: that past to you, even on the slaver second, like
Speaker 1: We'll come to the farm and you'll be like, guys,
Speaker 1: look what's in the workshop, Mary Christmas slabs of marble.
Speaker 1: I um, I love that be then I think there's
Speaker 1: something so profound in a willingness to explore and try
Speaker 1: new things, and especially when when you talk about validation
Speaker 1: outside validation, when the whole world has told you you've
Speaker 1: made it, when everyone is saying you should be so
Speaker 1: happy and you're looking around going but I'm not. Like
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I heard that Maggie Rogers
Speaker 1: song Are You Happy Now? And I just started sobbing,
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, something is happening to me?
Speaker 1: And look at that. Okay, you know it's there. It's
Speaker 1: really interesting because people, when they think you've succeeded, don't
Speaker 1: want you to change. And how dare you try to
Speaker 1: succeed at something else? Who deserves multiple avenues of success?
Speaker 1: And when you have this sort of emotional metal, the
Speaker 1: wherewithal to say, I'm going to lean into whatever makes
Speaker 1: me feel good, smart, wherever I feel like I'm expanding,
Speaker 1: you give other people in the room permission to do
Speaker 1: that as well. And I think that it's just it's
Speaker 1: been so fun, you know, through the ebbs and flows
Speaker 1: of all of our lives together, when when we're in
Speaker 1: contact a lot and where we're just like cheerleading each
Speaker 1: other from across the country, no matter whether it's closer far.
Speaker 1: It's it's such a special thing that that this little
Speaker 1: group of us gets to be each other's witnesses out
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, I feel really grateful for that.
Speaker 1: You so grateful. Well, we've also like rejected rejected the
Speaker 1: early Kids success in a way that I think only
Speaker 1: really the group of us kind of understands. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, why aren't you guys you know, pleased with
Speaker 1: this or you should be grateful, And we're all like,
Speaker 1: uh uh, you know what we're gonna do, like to
Speaker 1: any other things. So that's it. There's like a chip
Speaker 1: on all our shoulders that maybe doesn't make sense to
Speaker 1: everybody else. But then when we all like collectively get
Speaker 1: together like the Golden Girls and we're like, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about that, Well, maybe after seeing this episode, the chip
Speaker 1: on our shoulder will make sense to our faces. There
Speaker 1: is Do you remember the guy with the rooster tattoo
Speaker 1: and his like of course i'd double rings. Yes, I
Speaker 1: forgot about the nipple rings. I was reminded yesterday I
Speaker 1: saw we told we opened this episode telling the story
Speaker 1: of when he rolled his pant leg up and we
Speaker 1: were all terrified and he realized it and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to change my tactic. This isn't working, This
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't like my normal jobs. And so bevin,
Speaker 1: we have been bragging about you, but like you're in
Speaker 1: the middle of work right now, like you made time
Speaker 1: for us today. Tell us what's going on right now.
Speaker 1: So I literally finished class at nine o'clock, got in
Speaker 1: the car, ran home. That's why I have a beanie
Speaker 1: on you can are perfect pretty. I didn't mind up
Speaker 1: in the car and tell everybody who's listening about your company.
Speaker 1: Let's let's continue to brag on the things that you're doing.
Speaker 1: We like bragging about you. We're having so much on you, guys.
Speaker 1: So I at the beginning of COVID first of all,
Speaker 1: so it's like it was so your great UM experience.
Speaker 1: For me, it was an incredible, amazing experience. We kind
Speaker 1: of reached the end of our relationship UM. The company
Speaker 1: got really big. I wasn't feeling like there was moch
Speaker 1: room for the kind of growth and expansion and and
Speaker 1: intimacy I really wanted to have in my work. So
Speaker 1: my husband and I look at each other, COVID's happening.
Speaker 1: We're in our set square foot apartment, in New York
Speaker 1: City and he's on calls all day long, and all
Speaker 1: I hear is his dumb voice. As luck as I
Speaker 1: love his. Before, I was like, I'm gonna murder him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna literally murder him. Won't stop saying ibadah. He
Speaker 1: will not say. It's like it's like a it means
Speaker 1: the bottom line of your like financial statement. It's like
Speaker 1: earning before interest blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Money. Yeah, yeah, you know. Um, when
Speaker 1: trapped in a room with Ebada, it becomes nails on
Speaker 1: the chalkboard as the point. I mean, even with that
Speaker 1: gorgeous little accent. I was like, I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: So we we were like how long is this gonna last?
Speaker 1: What do we do? My parents were like, rent a
Speaker 1: car and get down here, come back to Welmington's, get
Speaker 1: some air. Well. It was so new and fresh and
Speaker 1: so scary. At the time. I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: be responsible for getting everybody in North Carolina sick. I
Speaker 1: was like, what if we have it? You know, we
Speaker 1: didn't really know what it meant to have COVID, and
Speaker 1: so we finally kind of looked at each other and
Speaker 1: we were like, let's go for like four weeks. We'll
Speaker 1: get there. We'll quarantine for two we'll make sandwiches, we
Speaker 1: won't get out of the car except to use the
Speaker 1: bathroom if we have to. And like, you know, so
Speaker 1: we packed up the car and we came down and
Speaker 1: my parents friends were really kind to let us rent
Speaker 1: their place because they weren't traveling in my parents little
Speaker 1: like a least cut. I love that, love that place.
Speaker 1: So I we stayed there literally looking into Brant, my
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend's. Um. We got into his kitchen, him and
Speaker 1: beyond kitchen, you're like in the small town, but this
Speaker 1: this is the kind of mess we were referring to earlier. Again,
Speaker 1: just a little bubble of people there. It is there,
Speaker 1: It is so um. We got there. We quarantined for
Speaker 1: two weeks, like we did not see anybody. My parents
Speaker 1: dropped off groceries, the whole thing, and then we were
Speaker 1: working from here. We were just enjoying our time working
Speaker 1: for here. We were able to go out on the
Speaker 1: water and being fresh air and go for bike rides
Speaker 1: and runs and you know, not be terrified and in
Speaker 1: a city and we kind of look I remember as
Speaker 1: there was a moment that COVID was getting we thought
Speaker 1: it was getting better and it was going away, and
Speaker 1: I panicked. I was like, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to go back. I don't want to go back.
Speaker 1: That sounds miserable, that sonds terrible. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't want to do it. And I
Speaker 1: looked at Will and I was like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. And he was like, why
Speaker 1: don't we just move here? Oh, it's such a magical place.
Speaker 1: It's magical, right because you know, from somebody from London
Speaker 1: at least New York is like an easy, an easy
Speaker 1: way to be an easy, you know, place to get here. So, um,
Speaker 1: we went back and we packed up our bags and
Speaker 1: we said we kind of told everybody we were during
Speaker 1: it temporarily, and we kind of told ourselves emotionally we
Speaker 1: were doing it temporarily, so we didn't share it. And
Speaker 1: then we found a place and we bought a home,
Speaker 1: and UM, I quit my job and I got a
Speaker 1: little business loan and bought twenty five bikes that I
Speaker 1: could put outside, um so at six ft apart, so
Speaker 1: that it was COVID safe and we could I could
Speaker 1: bring a little sense of community and joy during a
Speaker 1: time when there was just absolutely none. It was the
Speaker 1: perfect time for you to launch that business. When we
Speaker 1: talk about you being not only a teacher, but the
Speaker 1: bringer of on I was like, of course she named
Speaker 1: it recess. It's the best part of the day at school.
Speaker 1: That's part of the day. You're perfect. I love this much. Guys,
Speaker 1: anybody who is in Wilmington's if you haven't been, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And to our fans who still make
Speaker 1: you know the pilgrimage, to all the O t H sites,
Speaker 1: go take a class. Can fans come and take your
Speaker 1: classless party showing up? They have been showing up and
Speaker 1: it's amazing. That's so cool. I would be frustrated if
Speaker 1: people came and like didn't, like, you know, really contribute
Speaker 1: to the community, because it's not about me so much
Speaker 1: as it is like our our experience together. And they
Speaker 1: come in and they show up so hard and give
Speaker 1: it all they have, and it's like it's the best way.
Speaker 1: So I've never done a cycling class because I'm a
Speaker 1: very awkward woman. Um I remember Danielle listen, Danielle came
Speaker 1: to see me at the farm and I was like,
Speaker 1: you've had three kids, why do your thighs look like that?
Speaker 1: That's insane. And She's like, Bevan got me doing pikey things.
Speaker 1: You know. So I feel like the next time we
Speaker 1: come to town for a convention, other than we have
Speaker 1: to do another painting class, like, we'll just come to
Speaker 1: a recess class. That would be so much fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what we're gonna do. Um, but will you
Speaker 1: also come back on the show when the Beven skills Romance?
Speaker 1: I would love nothing more. Yes, Bevn, I miss you.
Speaker 1: Miss I'm in the city right now. I'm like looking
Speaker 1: out the window and I'm just like, I know, I
Speaker 1: do miss it. I do miss it. You know. We'll
Speaker 1: goes back every couple of weeks, and um, I'll probably
Speaker 1: start traveling a little bit more, you know, when things
Speaker 1: kind of settle down. Girl, next time you're up here
Speaker 1: and let me know con com it's a four it's
Speaker 1: like a fifty minute flight from Toronto. Guys, I'm coming.
Speaker 1: Let's get hey, let's get into some trouble. Yeah you're
Speaker 1: in Toronto stuff. Yeah, wait, let's get into some trouble.
Speaker 1: Let's get into some trouble, ladies. Hold on, I just
Speaker 1: that I just saw spikes of our twenty four year
Speaker 1: old selves shoot through our eyeballs, and I'm into it.
Speaker 1: Every time Daniel and I get together, it's like we're
Speaker 1: literally twenty again and it's a disaster. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite. We love you so much, you guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so proud of you. Guys.
Speaker 1: I didn't even I feel like talking. That's all we
Speaker 1: want to do, though, But I want to talk. Okay,
Speaker 1: we talked about ourselves all the time. Don't worry so happy.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for yourself. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to tell you. I'm so over the moon ecstatic for you.
Speaker 1: And Grant like I can't you even handle it? It's
Speaker 1: so fun. Please tell him, I said, Hi, I will.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. We love you so much. Have
Speaker 1: a great rest of the day at recess. All right,
Speaker 1: go kick some mass I can't wait to ever like
Speaker 1: not feel winded when I walk up the stairs. Maybe
Speaker 1: Bevan can teach me. I don't do I don't do
Speaker 1: anything exercise e like ever. But if someone was going
Speaker 1: to get me to it's hurt because she would think
Speaker 1: it not miserable. I think what it is is I
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend when I was a teenager. Give me
Speaker 1: a like a Christmas gift, like a membership to Lucille Roberts,
Speaker 1: which is a ladies only gym here in New York City.
Speaker 1: I don't think he exists anymore. Hey, you the a
Speaker 1: tent if you've got in shape, and I have just
Speaker 1: revolted against it ever since. Um, but a Bevan situation
Speaker 1: would be fun. And that's a difference. It's like, in
Speaker 1: this episode, the whole stripping thing is to talk about
Speaker 1: so gross. We use the word slutty multiple times in
Speaker 1: like five minutes, and if you look at it from
Speaker 1: a female perspective, we can look at it and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: there are parts of this that are fun when it's
Speaker 1: not gazed through the lens of like dudeness. We got
Speaker 1: just a hint of that with the instructor, Sylvia. Jeff
Speaker 1: Freeze was the instructor of the Ladies Poll Dancing class.
Speaker 1: And I know so many women, especially women who have
Speaker 1: been through trauma, who have gotten back into relationship with
Speaker 1: their bodies by being in groups of women and taking
Speaker 1: classes like that. They have literally like gotten physically back
Speaker 1: into their own beings. And I would love to see
Speaker 1: more of our ability to move, whether it's through dance
Speaker 1: or spin or whatever. I would love to see that
Speaker 1: be culturally presented to us as strengthening and empowering and
Speaker 1: like goddess rather than like you look hot when you
Speaker 1: do this, ladies. But I don't like that. This is
Speaker 1: a goddess body. This is a goddess body, Damnita. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's what we call this episode. Yeah, God, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna take it back. Okay. So should we answer fan questions? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have some good ones. Um, this is actually lovely.
Speaker 1: Tobra asks if you could go back and tell your
Speaker 1: twenty two year old self one thing about how to
Speaker 1: deal with what life throws at you, what would it be? Two?
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm trying to like differentiate from they're all messy.
Speaker 1: We were twenty two and this year season two we
Speaker 1: were twenty two. Okay, So um, I would tell twenty
Speaker 1: two year old me, don't let them bleach your hair. Okay,
Speaker 1: So listen. The bleaching of the hair was at a
Speaker 1: very fancy salon, and our hair dressers had to fix it.
Speaker 1: They like totally burned all my hair off at this
Speaker 1: very fancy salon here in the city. Um And and
Speaker 1: what is giving me private relief because this episode the
Speaker 1: season is so painful to watch aesthetically. Is that sweet
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish, who I just think the world of, is
Speaker 1: also dealing with the blonde burn mullet. It's the burn mullet.
Speaker 1: I feel like Miley's gone through a burn mullet phase.
Speaker 1: Everybody who bleaches their hair out seems to Yeah, burn
Speaker 1: mullet is just a rite of passage. Okay, my daughter,
Speaker 1: My daughter literally just brought brought me this business card.
Speaker 1: I gave Jeff these business cards to hand out at
Speaker 1: our wedding because he's uncomfortable in crowds. They say, talking Hillary,
Speaker 1: I have those just brought me. He's like, Mom, enough,
Speaker 1: what advice do you give year old you? Oh? Man? Um,
Speaker 1: I I would tell two year old me to trust
Speaker 1: my gut. I didn't have experience with people who lied,
Speaker 1: like in my young adulthood, and so when something would
Speaker 1: go wrong in that early phase of you know, being
Speaker 1: on our own for the first time, I really believed
Speaker 1: what people would say. I'd bring up a feeling or uh,
Speaker 1: something I heard or something that made me uncomfortable, and
Speaker 1: I would just take whatever the excuse was. And now
Speaker 1: I understand that for some of us you can trust
Speaker 1: what comes out of our mouths, and for some people
Speaker 1: you can't. And when I think about how uh that
Speaker 1: affected you know, my my young adulthood and my innocence
Speaker 1: at the time, and all of us really, you know,
Speaker 1: even our friendships. When are when the forty and fifty
Speaker 1: year old people we worked for, we're pitting us against
Speaker 1: each other because they didn't want us to ask for
Speaker 1: a decent salary. We didn't know that. We just thought
Speaker 1: that when our bosses said you said something about me,
Speaker 1: or I said something about you, or Joy said something
Speaker 1: about one of us, like, we didn't know that that
Speaker 1: wasn't through. And if I could go back and do anything,
Speaker 1: I would say, push into the questions you have about
Speaker 1: what you're being told, because you're right, you're just very
Speaker 1: used to believing the people who you think are the
Speaker 1: adults in the room. Yeah, And I would encourage young
Speaker 1: women to do that, to to always pull things apart
Speaker 1: and make sure they know what's really going on. Well,
Speaker 1: because now that we're the adults, we know that adults
Speaker 1: are full of ship at the time, we were mystified.
Speaker 1: We were like, what's happening? You guys have it figured out?
Speaker 1: And I think it's part of the reason that we
Speaker 1: as adults and women and advocates try to be so
Speaker 1: honest with people and even doing this show and talking
Speaker 1: about what it was, you know, the joy and the
Speaker 1: not so joyful parts of it. We want to do
Speaker 1: that so that we can give other people the roadmap
Speaker 1: and like, maybe they don't have to get stuck in
Speaker 1: as many ditches as we did. Will be the triple
Speaker 1: A of female and book. The ladies got us anytime,
Speaker 1: We've got another question from Malfi. Did any of you
Speaker 1: have any rituals or things you did to prepare for
Speaker 1: your day of acting? I mean I brought that little
Speaker 1: red coffee maker into the hair and makeup trailer and
Speaker 1: that was kind of all I cared about. It's still
Speaker 1: the case, yeah, I mean, look at this jar of coffee,
Speaker 1: jar of coffee. A jar of coffee. Uh. Same. Honestly,
Speaker 1: when when you're working hours like that and you barely
Speaker 1: get to sleep, because what people don't think about is
Speaker 1: you work all these hours. You know, we were on
Speaker 1: set sixteen to eighteen hours a day. Then when you
Speaker 1: go home, you have to learn the ten pages of
Speaker 1: dialogue for tomorrow, so you do a lot of homework
Speaker 1: when you get home. So I just remember feeling like
Speaker 1: every extra second of sleep I could get, I would
Speaker 1: literally lay my clothes out on my bed next to
Speaker 1: me so I could have the alarm go off. I'd
Speaker 1: on into the bathroom, shower and brush my teeth in
Speaker 1: the shower, run back into my room, put my clothes on,
Speaker 1: and run out the door. I wish I was the
Speaker 1: sort of person who was like, oh, my call times
Speaker 1: four thirty in the morning, Well, I'll get a bit
Speaker 1: three thirty and have a tea ceremony and meditate. I
Speaker 1: would love to be that person. I'm not. I'm sloppier.
Speaker 1: Guys are waking up five minutes before my phone blowing
Speaker 1: up because Sanderson's outside, like where are you? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? Get out here? That's it. That's it, man,
Speaker 1: Let's spin that wheel, bab let's do it? Are most
Speaker 1: talking too much? I hope that are most likely to today?
Speaker 1: Is just so clearly, George, let's most likely to embarrass
Speaker 1: themselves on national TV. How do we get this van
Speaker 1: of white I don't know I love this guy's Normally
Speaker 1: our wheel spins and then we just get the words.
Speaker 1: Now the words have come up on a on a
Speaker 1: Wheel of Fortune tile with Van of White presenting them,
Speaker 1: and I love this. She's like the most famous famous
Speaker 1: resident of Myrtle Beach. She's fabulous. Anytime I know anything
Speaker 1: about Myrtle Beach, it's the Van of White is from there,
Speaker 1: and she's their princess. I love her. Wheel of Fortune
Speaker 1: was the show I watched every single night with my parents. Love.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, would you go on Wheel of Fortune and
Speaker 1: embarrass yourself? Probably? But I think the person, especially after
Speaker 1: this episode, and it wouldn't be his choice, it would
Speaker 1: be written for him. But the person who would embarrass
Speaker 1: themselves on national television would be Tim. He's such a sweet,
Speaker 1: pure baby. Honestly, the way Brett played him, he just
Speaker 1: committed so hard. Yes, I agree, character is Tim? Which
Speaker 1: real life member of our family is going to embarrass
Speaker 1: themselves on TV? I mean, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: should answer that. Let's not and say we did. We're
Speaker 1: gonna leave it. Hey, why are you guys right in
Speaker 1: and tell us who maybe already has embarrassed themselves on TV?
Speaker 1: We don't know, we're not watching. Yeah, it probably is me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Having done live television for so many
Speaker 1: years in MTV, there was some real clunky days. Dude,
Speaker 1: I disagreed it. You're so good at it. Your ability
Speaker 1: to ask questions and move through stuff, it's like it's
Speaker 1: so natural to you. I would trust you to be
Speaker 1: the spokesperson on live TV for all of us. Myself, certainly,
Speaker 1: my most embarrassing moment on TV was when they brought
Speaker 1: me in to interview Angelina's your League, because earlier that
Speaker 1: day she had walked off of an interview because they
Speaker 1: asked her about bisexuality, and so they were like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll just have Hillary asked because she's genuinely like curious
Speaker 1: about it, and hopefully she won't walk off because it's
Speaker 1: a girl asking the question, like a young girl who
Speaker 1: actually cares, and so on live TV, I'm asking her
Speaker 1: this question, and I just I've being like pumps, like
Speaker 1: absolutely mortified, because she was so striking and so cool.
Speaker 1: She did not walk off that interview. God, alright, folks,
Speaker 1: that's the show. That's the show. Everyone. Oh, next week
Speaker 1: we will be back with season two, episode four. You
Speaker 1: can't always get what you want. I wonder what it's about.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Hopefully we stay dressed. That would be phenomenal,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it though. Um? All right, you guys, this has
Speaker 1: been a fun one. I love you so much. We
Speaker 1: missed Joy very very much. She'll be back next week. Joy.
Speaker 1: We hope you're having an amazing time at work this week.
Speaker 1: We love you, and we love you all. We'll see
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