WEBVTT - Hey Switchfoot! 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:09.440 Jonas. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.480 If you're just tuning in, we have our buddies switch 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.000 Foot on. Yeah, oh to have you guys on and 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.040 our so Cal friends. Thank you so much for taking 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.400 the time. And we've shared the stage many times. Our 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.280 relationship goes way back. Let's go all the way back. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.760 One of the reasons that this band that's Huba Stank, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:32.920 That's Huberstink. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.959 Has been formed in the first place was because I 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.240 overheard Kevin and Joe in our house in New Jersey 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.880 playing together for the first time. They were singing twenty 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.080 four from your album Beautiful Letdown, and I heard it 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.400 through the wall. It was the first time they ever 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.479 sung together. Kevin playing guitar, Joe singing, and I was like, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.159 that sounds really good. And I was working on a 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.880 solo record at the time at Columbia Records, And you know, 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.240 soon after that, we wrote a song together that our 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.120 dad said, the brothers are all singing together now, and 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.560 they signed us and on that That first day, they 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.320 opened up this big drawer and they pulled out like 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.960 all this, all the CDs that we could like take, 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.759 and one of them, of course was Beautiful Letdown. We've 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.199 we've been blasting it for months, but it's a huge 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.600 part of our origin story as a band, and we 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.240 just want to say thank you for that and for 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.399 all the bunch of years. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.240 And we're thrilled to have you on the pod. This 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:28.720 is great. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.039 Let's good. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.720 You were one of our inspirations. But who is one 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.640 of your band's inspirations? Like who did you guys grow 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.000 up listening to? Like what really inspired you guys to 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:39.920 start creating music? 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.479 Tim and I sharing DNA? We both kind of share 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.160 a little bit more musical DNA than Chad maybe, but 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.400 we were in a led Zeppelin cover band. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.440 Yeah, back before your voice has changed. You know, you 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.520 can still hit those. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.720 Yeah, we joked you have to write new songs when 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.200 when you hit puberty because you can't hit the those 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.200 Robert Plant notes or not availab. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.960 So led Zeppelin cover band And then how did your 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.079 band form? What was the origin story there? 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.600 I think for John and I you maybe you guys 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.880 can relate. There was never a time that we weren't 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.840 playing music together. Yeah, you know, so it was very normalized. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.440 It was just kind of what you did. It was 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.280 never like a hey, we should start a band. I 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.000 think it was just always in process. I was just 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.200 annoying him with songs all the time. What about this one? 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.079 What about this one? 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:36.359 Yeah? 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.080 Yeah, And the music scene in San Diego is very eclectic, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.360 which I think is also part of kind of our 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.120 origin story. The bands we were listening to, it was 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:49.640 like equal parts. Obviously the heavyweights like Zeppelin, Beatles, Lease, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.320 and then like bands no one's ever heard of, Mean Back, Yeah, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.360 boiler Maker, you know, little bands that we'd see him 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.880 in their garage. But Great was like coming out of 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.119 our scene. We're always very practical. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.520 The dream was like, okay, what if we could go 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.359 on tour, and a tour meant going up all the 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.360 way to San Francisco, you know, like that. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.600 Would be like the dream, Oh my gosh. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.800 And these were what the bands we would listen to, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.880 did you know, like I can I don't know led Zeppelin, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.680 but I helped you know, Rob Crow carry his guitar 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.720 in one time, and that's what he does. He goes 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.800 on tour, you know, and I'm so cool. Yeah so 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.560 and then so Chad. I actually recorded his band on 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.920 my four track, which caught on fire during the session. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.720 Of course, there was too much fire, and that's what 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:45.080 I knew. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.360 I'm like, Chad, you got to join our band. It 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:51.440 literally melted the machine. Yeah, we had a band in conspiracy. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.720 Maybe you did it on purpose, you knew it was 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.600 time for him to join you. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.200 It could have been that was it Tim, myself and 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:03.560 another guy and we recorded a CD in high school 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.760 and it was all my bus boy money to go 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.320 into the studio and record it proper. And when he 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.560 moved back to the East Coast, we said, well, Tad, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.160 you got to join our band. And he was like, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.640 how about we make something new? And so I was 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.800 like all right. So we wrote all new songs and 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.120 it felt like it was a completely new thing. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.480 Was there a song that you guys wrote as like 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.279 that you felt like, oh gosh, we found the sound, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.560 like we found the like we found the direction, Like 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.160 we it like just unlocked the rest of the thing 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.640 was there like a moment you realize like, yes, we 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.320 are onto what we feel like is truly us. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.640 I mean, I don't know if you guys relate to this, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.240 but I think at that age every song we wrote 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.600 was like, oh my gosh, we did the best thing totally. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.440 There was all success all the time. You got through 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.159 an entire song. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.640 Yeah, you're completely blind to like all the the reasons 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.839 why it's not it yet, you know. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.400 I mean, but what was the first song that that 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.800 really did break through like take us through that sort 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.200 of chapter of the journey. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.839 So there's a song called Darry to Move that we 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.039 put on our third album, and we thought that was 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.320 going to be our you know, one of our last albums. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.760 Like we didn't know many bands that made more than 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.560 three records. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:20.960 Yeah, was on? 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.120 Was it on? 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.400 So it was on our third record, The Beautiful Learning 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.359 to Breathe, And we thought that was like, that was 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.599 the song. We put it first on the album. We 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.760 were like, this is the single. Our record label at 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.560 the time didn't think so, and it kind of got 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.280 lost and we moved it. Yeah, and so we have 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.400 the chance to do a fourth record, which surprised us. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.000 Who gets to do four records. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.480 This is at the time of year with Columbia, Chris, this. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.760 Is our first major label album. But we're still thinking like, yeah, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.719 but it's probably our last. Like let's let's go in. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.880 Let's not leave anything on the table, including let's put 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.000 Darry to Move on this album too. Let's re record 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.640 it and give it. That's how much we believed in 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.360 this song. We felt like everyone missed it. Let's let's 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:08.040 run it back. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.200 That is wild and did you record this with Fields? 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.520 We retracked everything. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.320 You can hear them both on on Spotify. We finally 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.520 separated them. They're similar, same song, but I felt like 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.360 we were able to have a second chance at a 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.320 song that you know, really means a lot to us. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.480 It is funny though, because like people will say, oh, 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.719 that is that's a that's a big song or something, 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.480 and for for years and years everyone said the opposite. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.359 So I think it's interesting to think through what makes 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.320 a big song, what makes a song that sticks? You know? 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:46.200 Well that we got dropped while we were playing That's 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.640 at a showcase for Sony Columbia. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.080 We were at the showcase seeing you guys are at 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.799 the Columbia. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.839 We were there. We watched you from the balcony. I 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:57.839 was we were freaking out. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.120 Did you watch the president of Sony walk out while 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.799 we were playing during dary. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.039 I don't even know if we would have seen who 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.600 that was at the time when we were there, but 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.760 I never got to that level. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:14.480 Yeah, we got dropped before that too. That's a wild 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.800 thing to be performing. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.960 Oh my god, did you think it was like a 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.920 bad joke when you guys found out, because you're like, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.320 we just played for you. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.160 We thought we were like, like that was awesome. High five. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.480 Wasn't it great? And our manager came up to us 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.880 afterwards like he saw a ghost and he's like, actually, no, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.760 that was not very good. That we just got craft. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.320 He said he didn't hear any any big songs. We're 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.320 gonna have to figure out what to do. That's insane. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.240 That's insane. I remember listening to that album that entire summer. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.920 We were at summer camp and it became like the 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.200 soundtrack to our summer camp and they make. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:48.640 You guys were there. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.160 We were there in the mill. Maybe it wasn't the 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.800 same showcase. It probably was. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.400 I think it was our only only time in New York, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:57.880 you know, five. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.280 Years, and yeah, that was we were there. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.760 We saw it, and I guess we saw the performance 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.600 because then that was the same day like we saw 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.160 John Mayer for the first time. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:05.960 So Darry to move. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.200 It's so funny you mentioned that you re recorded it 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.440 with Fields because we have a similar story and that 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.040 we had this song called when you look Me in 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.200 the Eyes that was on the original record we made 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.760 kind of as a group at Sony, which actually never 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.960 came out that we went a different direction, made a 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.239 whole new album that was the technically the first album. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.520 But he heard Looking in the Eyes and was like, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.040 this is really good. Give me a shot to produce 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.720 on the first album that he made for us. And 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.440 he literally said, he's like, I'm going to give it 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.880 the dairy to move treatment. And I don't think I 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.880 registered then that it wasn't just sonically that it was similar, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.560 but also that he's re recording a song. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.720 Yes, oh wow, yeah, people listening. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.720 John Fields is an amazing producer, and he was the 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.439 producer for you know, three of our albums and two 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:53.880 of yours were. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.319 I think three three. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.040 You know, when we went into our new record label 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.839 after Sony dropped us, they were like, who do you 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.320 want to work with? And we were, you know, swinging 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.400 for the fences because we had no traction romentum going. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.679 We're just hoping that, you know, they would Paris with 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.400 somebody cool. So we said we'd love to work with 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.600 John Fields based on you know, all the stuff he 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.280 was doing with you guys and they called him and 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:17.840 he agreed to do it, but he's like, I'm not 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.920 going to listen to anything they've done. I could just 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.040 want to start fresh. And it was key to the whole, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.160 the whole process. But that is a wild story. So 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.000 Walk Us Through then Walk to Remember comes out around 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.640 that same time, right, and only hope is. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.760 Yeah, just before then, we had a bunch of songs 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.520 on Walk to Remember, and I remember that was a 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:43.440 really interesting, another strange season where you're these punk kids 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.480 from San Diego, like stand in between your toes walking 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:51.440 the red carpet, and I remember distinctly we get to 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.320 the part where the photographers are taking pictures and they're 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.400 snapping away, and then one of them stops and says, wait, 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:03.800 who are you? It was? Are you in the movie? 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.400 What is your role in this thing? 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:07.000 David? 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.120 I remember that he was walking behind us. They knew 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:12.760 who he was. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.480 There's a massive resurgence online. I don't know if you've 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.079 seen this yet, but there are videos of millennial parents 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.400 showing their children Walk to Remembers for the first time 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.800 that they're following them and putting it online and watching 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.720 their reactions and watching their reactions because they know What's coming. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.640 It is heartbreaking but so funny, and of course your 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.079 music is just playing in the background all the entire time. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.920 So if you have a minute, go check it out. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.240 It's some of my favorite videos and I cannot wait 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.360 to do it to our almost thirteen year old. So 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.480 I'm very I'm very much looking for to you. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.360 It was pretty wild. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.920 It's pretty wild is that you guys would have more 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.640 than one song on like a soundtrack line? 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.080 Right? That doesn't really happen. Yeah, it's pretty sick. It 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.320 was wild, and they just kept it was like half 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.720 the soundtrack. I remember that. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:57.880 I was like, this is nuts. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.560 Goodwill Hunting was a big movie for us. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.800 That's how we discovered Elliott Smith and I remember thinking like, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.000 could this be our Goodwill Hunting moment? Like we're taking 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.080 a little soundtrack? 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.920 You know, that's wild. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.880 Where did that come from? Was it the director? Was 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.720 it a team around the soundtrack? Or a girl that 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.800 John and I went to high school with. She and 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.440 I were in a bunch of classes together. She ended 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.239 up in la right after high school being the assistant 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.600 to Mandy Moore's manager because she heard they were looking 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.199 for songs for the film and one day, she kind 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.080 of shyly walked in and was like, hey, got these guys, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.200 well friends of mine from high school. I never do this, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:39.120 but h and Mandy heard only Hope and wanted to 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.280 sing it in the film totally. And then it just 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.960 kind of snowballed. It was like another song, Hey, could 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.559 we use another one? And then I think by the 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.120 end of it was like five songs. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.400 Wow, that's incredible. That like never happens, right, That's like, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.600 already get one song placed on something, but. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.400 Then like you know, you do a million things where 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.560 you're like, what's going to move the needle and what 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.599 isn't and you never know, right, So I think that 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.199 was happening, you know, one side, and then the other 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.000 side we were going into the studio to make our 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.960 what we thought was our last album, so all this 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.040 was happening at the same time, and it just kind 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.120 of created this moment that we would have never expected. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:16.160 It's incredible. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.920 I'm curious, like, after all these years, you guys have 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.679 done some incredible stuff, do you still feel like you've 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.840 got some bucketless items as a band that you're like, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.560 we'd love to do this, we gotta do this, or 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:26.360 we got to play here. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.920 M that's a good question. I would love to play 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:38.400 another show at Red Rocks. That's always I mean, every 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.560 time we play there, it's it's it feels like a 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.079 bucket list totally. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:47.520 We should play together, guys, Let's go Sick Jonas switch Foot, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.520 Red Rocks, would be would be fire. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.840 I mean, yeah, we had a ton of fun having 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.920 you guys out at MetLife for the kickoff of the 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.199 tours in same night. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.600 You guys are insane. Yeah, could I just light on 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.680 like because we do, we're like the same kind of 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.120 swing for the fences. Let's let's throw it all in. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.480 But I just want to point out you have a 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.200 first night of tour, which is always calamitous. You have 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:17.320 it in you know, a stadium, a huge stadium in 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.800 your hometown, in your hometown. That's always another another dreadful thing, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.280 another another thing. And then you have like you have 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.200 even more guests. Yeah, and you were so calm, all 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.520 three of you guys were. I remember there was like 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.040 all sorts of things, you know, fires being put out 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.000 just before you're to go on stage, and you guys 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:42.800 are just heart rate, slow, calm, breathing, normal truly. Yeah, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:43.040 it was. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.320 It was inspired, like you know, kind of love the chaos, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.360 and that night, you know, it was it was really 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.800 special because the whole idea of the special Guest thing 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.480 stemmed from actually the collaboration on Gretisch from Hometown, the 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.800 album that we put out and that you guys were 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.680 featured on, and we did that song and and you know, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.480 it was really about kind of giving flowers to people 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.200 that have been a part of our journey and saying, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.880 you know, thank you, and being able to share those 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.640 those moments with them. And you know, between you and 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.120 and and Demi, there's there's a lot of like significant 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:16.760 moments kind of for. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.720 Us that night. But it was crazy. I remember what 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.120 it was done. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.040 I was like, I don't know how how all these 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.640 pieces actually came together, but it was. It was really 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.040 quite fun. And then you know, the song that we 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.120 got to do for the album, I remember we sent 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.720 it to you guys again on theme Swing for the Fences, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960 thinking who knows if they'll be into this. Within I 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.040 think a week or two you sent back the full track. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.400 It sounded incredible, and thank you for being on the record. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.840 First of all, so much. Thanks It was it. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.520 Was big for us, thank you for having us on 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.560 greeting from your hometown. The moment we heard it, it 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.720 was it's a it's such a an infectious song. I 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:03.280 feel like it has a great just it has a 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.520 heartbeat that that we loved from the beginning. So love that. Yeah, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.640 there's no no arm twisting to be a part of it, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.320 and I love I also love the fact that you guys. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.360 I remember, I think it was a zoom or something 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.560 where we're like, okay, so you want us to write 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.440 a bridge, you know, And I can't remember who it was, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.840 but I think it was you. You're like, I'm thinking 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.760 like change tempo change, you know, Like I'm like, wow, okay, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.040 so that's that's not the pop you know formula that we. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:32.520 Wanted the full. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.240 We wanted the full switch foot slow down the Field, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.440 and you guys did it and nailed that. That's like 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.120 my favorite. It's so weird that song. Actually, we played 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.520 it only a few times, you know, in full. Obviously 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.040 most of the time it was with you guys. But 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.760 when we did, I would leave the show after all 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.560 this music we played that night, and I'd be in 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.520 my bed staring at the ceiling. And that's the song 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.200 that would be still playing in my head. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.280 So like it definitely stays with you. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.120 That is odd, like the end of a weekend of music. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.280 What is the song that is in your head? 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:02.040 Yeah? 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.640 Yeah, oh no, it's a great song. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.360 So your new album Forever Now tell us about it. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:14.920 It is an attempt to basically, if you had to 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.400 distill your last day here on the planet, what would 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:23.600 you do? And I think it brings life into focus. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.880 It brings people into focus. It brings conflict into focus 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.840 to where you say, this doesn't matter as much as 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.360 I thought it did. I need to go spend time 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.400 with my kids or that sort of thing. And for 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.960 us as a band, it also brought into focus, like 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.720 I'm sure it's the same for you guys, where you 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.480 chase so many different flavors and colors that you love musically, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.320 where you think, oh yeah, that record's great, let's see 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.680 if we can do something like that. But this album 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.280 is an attempt to make the only the record that 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.840 only switch Foot could make, so to fall back in 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.800 love with rock and roll and to bring that San Diego, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.280 you know, Sam between your toes rock and roll. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.040 Yeah, that's beautiful, and you mentioned, you know, briefly about 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.840 spending time with their kids before we started recording it. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:12.640 You're open to sharing. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.480 You mentioned pretty cool memory from your collective bro Am event, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.000 and it just hit me so hard when you said 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.600 it as a girl dad, So you don't mind sharing. 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.800 Yeah, girl dad's out there. Yeah, I'm the softie like 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.119 you know, like it doesn't matter what movie, Avengers or whatever. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.800 I'm like, oh gosh, this is getting me and my 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:36.359 daughter think it's hilarious. She's fourteen and they We do 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.480 this event called the bro Am switch Foot bro Am, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:44.159 which is raising money and awareness for incredible kids in 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.840 our hometown. Greeting from your hometown. It's awesome, and so 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.640 it gives back to kids that you know, homeless, kids 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.760 at risk, youth, kids with special needs. And one of 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.440 the programs is Challenge Athletes Foundation. So we do this 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:05.679 Ushian session where kids with limb differences, kids with cerebral palsy, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.800 different things that you know that they they're wrestling with. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.879 We teach them how to surf and then there's a 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.159 thousand people on the beach all cheering them on and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.480 it Wow, that's beautiful. It was, Yeah, it was it. Literally, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.480 I've been in the in the ocean surfing thousands of times, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.440 and this was a top five moment for me. And again, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.560 I'm a softie, but I was holding back some tears 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.480 him and chatter out there everybody's smiling and yeah, my 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.399 daughter she has cerebral palsy and she's she's just catching 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.359 these incredible waves and everyone on the shore is cheering 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.840 her on that. Yeah, that was a highlight for me. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.360 Beautiful. Well, thanks for sharing, beautiful. You know, we get 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:48.600 a a writer list from all our guests and we 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.280 got yours and never something on there that I think 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.679 it's been there for a long time, which is a 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:52.560 local hot sauce. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:53.200 Yeah. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:54.400 Is this a real thing? 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.320 Yeah? Yeah? Okay. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:57.840 And then as a follow up to that, are you 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.320 guys on TikTok Yeah, okay, are you aware of like this, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.800 this challenge of putting hot sauce into Topa Chico. Oh okay, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.680 it's taking the world by storm. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:08.880