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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about what appears to be the end

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Speaker 2: of the body positivity health at any size movement that

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Speaker 2: is sweeping its way through Hollywood. A United States Postal

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Speaker 2: Service worker who was found dead in a mal sorting machine,

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Speaker 2: a student who was shot by her friend while hi

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Speaker 2: on marijuana, an alarming letter that was sent out to

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Speaker 2: patients from a hospital, and a suicide that has been

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Speaker 2: linked to an extremist group that a kid first discovered

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Speaker 2: on the popular gaming platform for kids called Roeblocks. All

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Speaker 2: that and more on today's episode. All of these Hollywood

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Speaker 2: stars like super skinny now, especially the ones that were

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Speaker 2: pushing it down our throat that it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess the question coming up now is with

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Speaker 1: this new rise in ozepic and gop one use in general,

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Speaker 1: is it the new body positivity movement to be open

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Speaker 1: about using weight loss drugs and getting plastic surgery or

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Speaker 1: are these people just adapting to the same old Hollywood standards.

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Speaker 2: It's what do you think the same old Hollywood standards. Now,

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Speaker 2: like think about this, like most right now, it was

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Speaker 2: epic's expensive for a lot of people, Like a lot

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Speaker 2: or those types of drugs could be over one thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a month. I know that they're trying to make

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Speaker 2: it cheaper, but as of this moment, it's not cheap

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Speaker 2: for everyone. And then on top of that, a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are having a hard time even having access

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Speaker 2: to these medications who need it for diabetes, who need

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Speaker 2: it for diabetes, but like because everybody wants them and

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Speaker 2: there's just not enough of it, so right there, it's

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Speaker 2: just like unrealistic for the average person to be doing

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Speaker 2: such a thing. And then you have the other thing

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Speaker 2: with the plastic surgeries and stuff, because that's the newest

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Speaker 2: thing that every single person has this special surgery. Like

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Speaker 2: Chris Jenner and all these people get these crazy face

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Speaker 2: surgeries done and they look so much younger, which I

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Speaker 2: actually would like to see what it looks like in

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Speaker 2: real life, because who knows what it looks like with

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Speaker 2: all these weird filters that they use and stuff. But

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Speaker 2: didn't you just send me an article that her facelift

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Speaker 2: was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars minimum. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so again for us regular people living in the verbs,

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Speaker 2: like that's that's usually a couple years salary for a person,

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Speaker 2: like for their entire year salary. Again another unrealistic thing.

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Speaker 3: So it's like.

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Speaker 1: A whole family's household and more for a facelift, I know.

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Speaker 2: And it sucks for us because they're all gonna be

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Speaker 2: eighty years old looking like they're thirty, and the regular

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Speaker 2: people are just gonna be looking like they're their age.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is my hot take. I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of these people look good.

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Speaker 3: Some of them look good, come on.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Lohan, Ann Hathaway chef's kids that they look amazes.

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Speaker 2: But other do you think they went to the same surgeon,

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Speaker 2: because like they have a similar.

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Speaker 1: This surgeon whose name by the way, he's becoming a

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Speaker 1: celebrity in his own right for his work, Steve Levine,

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Speaker 1: he's who's doing all these people.

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Speaker 3: He is theirs.

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Speaker 1: I think he did theirs and Chris Jenners and everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Because like I might actually sellmont of my kids so

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Speaker 2: I could get not just too good, but it's insane, seriously,

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Speaker 2: like they're they're like Anne Hathaway man she looks she

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Speaker 2: And Lindsay lohand too just it's like a like just

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Speaker 2: like I've been seeing all these videos go around with

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Speaker 3: Blur filter whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: That you look like face tuning a lot, and like,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be very catty five of me for

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Speaker 1: those people that don't understand that reference. On our YouTube

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Speaker 1: live every Friday, the Last five, which really ends up

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Speaker 2: Usually our Caddy five usually has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: And just gossiping and shit talking. Yeah, so this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be very catty five with me. But like this morning,

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Speaker 1: thinking the same as me. She looks eighty years old, like,

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Speaker 1: And these people are getting so much work done that

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Speaker 2: Are you so out of tune with the world that,

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Speaker 2: like you didn't know that that was coming? Think about this,

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Speaker 2: Like Michelle Pfeiffer is like like a gorgeous specimen, right,

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Speaker 2: She's a fine specimen of a person. Like why would

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Speaker 2: going to happen and people are going to destroy you,

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Speaker 2: Like why don't you think? Why why am I going

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Speaker 2: to try to dress and emulate a super beautiful, perfect person.

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Speaker 2: When I don't look that way, you're just gonna get teased,

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Speaker 2: like you're walking right into it.

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Speaker 1: Because it's the genius of Bethany Franco where now people

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Speaker 2: She just doesn't even care if it's negative or positive.

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Speaker 2: She just wants people to talk about her.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't. And she was on a podcast I listened

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Speaker 1: to last week, and this the amount of times this

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Speaker 1: shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 4: Like you so annoy anyway, But I've said it before too,

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Speaker 4: And like, there are a lot of people my age,

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Speaker 4: like I see Alex Cooper, the call her Daddy Girl,

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Speaker 4: Alex Earl, the influencer, Brooks Nader the model.

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Speaker 1: They are younger than me and they look ten years

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Speaker 1: older than me because of the amount of work these

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Speaker 1: people get done, and not just plants or surgery. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about just like simply injections what they're doing. And

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why you're twenty eight and you want

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like we need to talk to a

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Speaker 2: when you look at Anne Hathaway and Lindsay Lohan, you're

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Speaker 2: But why doesn't it happen more often? That's I guess

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Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan started out as a very beautiful person, but

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Speaker 2: she got kind of haggard because of her whole like

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Speaker 2: So I guess I guess really it's like they were

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Speaker 2: maybe because I think some of these people have not

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Speaker 1: I actually wonder. I don't know for a fact that

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Speaker 2: I just wish she would call me and tell me,

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Speaker 2: because I'll be on the first plane out. Mother knows

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Speaker 2: death is gonna have to close down for a couple

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Speaker 2: at least audio only.

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Speaker 1: We've only ever gone audio only an emergency technical difficult

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Speaker 1: or the week of my surgery and the week of

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I should have done it the week of

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Speaker 2: my surgery because I was deformed looking, but whatever, shut up?

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, I just I am curious. And a

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Speaker 2: We got to have doctor Dimitrion because I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested in that. And then you know, some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just am kind of salty about it

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Speaker 2: it was not healthy. Remember when Cosmopolitan put out that

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, no, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not it's not about like for what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: one that's gonna come after this episode for example, right,

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Speaker 1: But what you're trying to say is you don't give

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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit, like I don't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 2: trying to lose ten or fifteen pounds, I think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But like Lizzo is a prime example of someone that

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Speaker 2: taking it because that's what that drug was meant to do.

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Speaker 1: She said I'm proud of how I've looked always, but

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Speaker 3: In the mail me?

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Speaker 3: Inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: Who can listen if you have to be outside all

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Speaker 1: But like, where did the gun come from? Did she

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Speaker 1: just have it in her purse?

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Speaker 3: Or was the dog cut in her room? She had

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Speaker 3: it in her room.

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Speaker 1: But wasn't she at the girl's house that she shot?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know. I thought that she was at

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Speaker 3: her house. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought that the pharmacy students the one that went

444
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Speaker 2: over her friend's house to cut the dog's hair.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but regardless, So she thinks she's gonna get stabbed,

446
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Speaker 1: so she shoots her and claims she didn't mean to,

447
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Speaker 1: and then she also shot herself accidentally in the stomach.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the story is.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's been charged with first degree reckless homicide. This

450
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Speaker 1: story's just said. I mean, this girl that was the

451
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Speaker 1: student was in her last year of pharmacy school. She

452
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Speaker 1: was hoping to move to Florida. She just celebrated her birthday.

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Speaker 2: I mean, on one hand, or like, was it really

454
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Speaker 2: the weed that just made her like go nuts? Or

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Speaker 2: is she just using that as an excuse? Like did

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Speaker 2: they get in a fight, did something happen?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know I defend weed a lot. When

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Speaker 1: you challenge it, and I will say, like I did

459
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Speaker 1: definitely do see people that have these issues while smoking,

460
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Speaker 1: but that seems like another drug was involved or she

461
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Speaker 1: had a serious issue going on, and like you're saying

462
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Speaker 1: was using it.

463
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Speaker 2: There could have been too, because that's I was thinking

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Speaker 2: that was a possibility too. So in the investigation, they'll

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Speaker 2: check the drugs themselves if there's anything left over to

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Speaker 2: see if they were actually and where they got it

467
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Speaker 2: from too. But we know that the weed stores now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they sell pretty potent marijuana, so it's just

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Speaker 2: enough to cause people to have problems if they're going

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Speaker 2: to have problems from it, totally.

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Speaker 3: Do you think like.

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Speaker 2: One thing that I noticed that I mean, like I

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Speaker 2: don't want to get into this conversation again, but just like,

474
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Speaker 2: there are so many weed stores. It's to the point

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Speaker 2: where this week Atlantic City was like, you can't put

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Speaker 2: any more weed stores.

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Speaker 3: There's too many.

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Speaker 1: Because they're making a ton of money and I think

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Speaker 1: they get extra taxes on them, so they're making the

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Speaker 1: towns a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: It's just like.

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Speaker 2: From my house to your house, which is what eighteen

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Speaker 2: minutes there seriously is like ten of them. It's it's

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Speaker 2: just like, really it just seems out of and listen,

485
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Speaker 2: like I directly correlate it with how everybody sucks at

486
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Speaker 2: driving now because everybody's high. That's my that's my personal

487
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Speaker 2: scientific studies.

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Speaker 1: I read an article a couple of years ago that

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Speaker 1: when weed was made legal in Colorado, it like single

490
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Speaker 1: handedly changed the economy there because.

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Speaker 3: Of the tax revenue it was bringing in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, like they say that, but and I'm

494
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Speaker 2: sure it does. But like, who's it making money? Because

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Speaker 2: it's and improve my town at all or anywhere around here.

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Speaker 1: Some town sucks like you. I live in a way

497
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Speaker 1: shittier town than you, And I think my like streets

498
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Speaker 1: look nicer. My trash comes on time every week.

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Speaker 2: Listen, it's a soft subject, so don't don't don't bring

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Speaker 2: it up my street, please, my my.

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Speaker 3: My street looks like.

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Speaker 2: That. The the like the pavement or the street itself,

503
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Speaker 2: the asphal it just looks like such shit. Yeah, like

504
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Speaker 2: it like ruins the vibe of the street. It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: Just like whatever, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go

506
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Speaker 2: on a rant about that because any of my neighbors

507
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Speaker 2: that are listening will one hundred percent get pissed off

508
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Speaker 2: too at the same time about it. But all right,

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Speaker 2: so so yeah, so uh Unfortunately, like we'll have to

510
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Speaker 2: hear more about this case because I feel like the

511
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Speaker 2: investigation in this case is really important because obviously, like

512
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Speaker 2: people lie and say, oh, I heard voices and I

513
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Speaker 2: was doing that because they're trying to get out of trouble,

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Speaker 2: So we don't really know exactly what happened. This episode

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Speaker 1: last month, over five hundred patients were shocked to receive

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Speaker 1: a letter stating they were dead despite very much being alive.

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Speaker 2: So I read this article and some of the people

539
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Speaker 2: who are interviewed are saying it was just very shocking

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Speaker 2: and upsetting.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, why you're not dead? Don't you know

542
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Speaker 3: you're not dead? Like, what's the big deal?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. I mean the letter, like I feel

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Speaker 1: like I laugh at something like that because it would

545
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Speaker 1: be ridiculous, But I would be worried. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how this works when you die. But like I thought,

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Speaker 1: let's say, if you die at the hospital, do they

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Speaker 1: alert somebody that you've died? Okay, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that works. At first, I was thinking I could

550
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Speaker 1: see why people would be upset if maybe the protocol

551
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Speaker 1: was they alert someone I don't know how that you

552
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Speaker 1: have died and then like maybe your social Security gets

553
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Speaker 1: cut off like things like that that could lead to

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Speaker 1: other problems down the road, because didn't we have a

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Speaker 1: story like that in the past where somebody was falsely

556
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Speaker 1: pronounced dead or no, somebody was using the wrong social

557
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Speaker 1: Security number and they thought they were dead. They entered

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Speaker 1: the wrong social Security number for a person that had died,

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Speaker 1: and then the person that was alive. All this stuff

560
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Speaker 1: started getting messed up and they couldn't get benefits anymore

561
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Speaker 1: and things like that.

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Speaker 2: And I guess we did have a question about that

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Speaker 2: for I guess it would be funeral directors, like when

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Speaker 2: a person dies, because we've talked about this in several

565
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Speaker 2: circumstances too, where people are stealing like their dead mother's

566
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Speaker 2: social Security and stuff like who's when someone dies? Whose

567
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Speaker 2: responsibility is it to alert social Security that that person's dead?

568
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Speaker 2: Is it the funeral home? Like I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's the funeral home, because everyone doesn't go to a

570
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Speaker 2: funeral home either. Just I don't know whose responsibility it

571
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Speaker 2: is because it can't be the hospital because people die

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Speaker 2: at home. I don't know what it is, but or

573
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Speaker 2: is it just the family's responsibility, like you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: report when a person's dead. I'm not I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: When we talked about that last story, it was an

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Speaker 1: error on behalf of the funeral home that entered the

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Speaker 1: inco social Security number. Yeah, that was like months and

579
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Speaker 1: months and months ago, so I don't remember the specifics,

580
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Speaker 1: but I can understand people being worried about that. But

581
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Speaker 1: like to be like so in distress and upset that

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Speaker 1: you accidentally got a letter that you're dead, like you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there reading it you know you're alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Just I just think, like, why would you even

585
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Speaker 2: think that? The first thought wasn't just like okay, this

586
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Speaker 2: is obviously a mistake.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I just can't.

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Speaker 2: Like this woman didn't even want to put her name

589
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Speaker 2: out there because she was so upset and distraw over this,

590
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Speaker 2: Like I she she has to be like ninety and

591
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Speaker 2: just like on edge about the word because she knows

592
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Speaker 2: it's coming soon or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: People are just getting their panties in a twist for

595
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Speaker 1: like no reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I think too.

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Speaker 1: Listen. Unacceptable that had happened, but like you're alive and

598
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Speaker 1: it literally didn't affect you at all.

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Speaker 3: It was an error.

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Speaker 2: It's just a weird it's a weird error for sure,

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Speaker 2: And I'm just I wonder, like how that happened. It

602
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Speaker 2: almost seems like it might have been like purposeful or

603
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Speaker 2: something like, because it it's not. It's if a letter

604
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Speaker 2: went out someone had to physically type something like that

605
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Speaker 2: up right, Like what a computer just glitch and all

606
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Speaker 2: of a sudden make this fake letter that says you're dead,

607
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Speaker 2: And like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But they might have like templates pre generated in the

609
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Speaker 1: system and then they just hit like send automatically if

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Speaker 1: somebody has died. Because it also gave instructions for how

611
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Speaker 1: there is could deal with I guess the remainder of

612
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Speaker 1: their medical bills and anything else going on there. I

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Speaker 1: could see how it could happen, but like you send

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Speaker 1: it to five hundred and thirty one people, just kind

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Speaker 1: of like how were the people selected? Was it a

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Speaker 1: specific group of people? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would love to get a letter like that. I

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Speaker 3: would have like hung it up in my house or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like I could foresee a lawsuit coming

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Speaker 1: out about evotional distress or some absolute bullshit like I

621
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Speaker 1: can't get behind it. It was an accident, relaxed, all right,

622
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Speaker 1: This last one's really disturbing. So last year, this woman's

623
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Speaker 1: thirteen year old daughter killed herself, which really surprised the

624
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Speaker 1: family because she didn't seem to have any indications that

625
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Speaker 1: she was feeling that way. And about a week after

626
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Speaker 1: her death, detectives got in touch with a mother and

627
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Speaker 1: said that the kid was part of this extremist group

628
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Speaker 1: she found through roadblocks called TCC, which stands for True

629
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Speaker 1: Crime Community, and they are a group that glorifies school shooters,

630
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Speaker 1: romanticize them, obsesses with them, and they feed off each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've talked about roadblocks before because this is

632
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Speaker 2: any that has a kid between the age of six

633
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Speaker 2: and fourteen, I'd say their kid more than likely is

634
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Speaker 2: either on roadblocks or has talked about roadblocks, because it's

635
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Speaker 2: just a really there's millions and millions of kids on

636
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Speaker 2: this worldwide. So my and I'm going to sound like

637
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: a really old person right now, because you know, when

638
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Speaker 2: I grew up, it was Nintendo, right, roadblocks seems at

639
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Speaker 2: least my understanding is that you go on Roadblocks, and

640
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Speaker 2: then there's like a bunch of different games within Roadblocks

641
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Speaker 2: that kids could pick that they want to play, and

642
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Speaker 2: then they're able to play with their friends. So one

643
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Speaker 2: of the biggest negatives with this is I believe that

644
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Speaker 2: anyone could make a game on roadblocks and put it

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Speaker 2: up there for the kids to play. So there's no like,

646
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Speaker 2: it's not this all of the little games, individual games

647
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Speaker 2: are made by Roadblocks, they're made by users. So obviously

648
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Speaker 2: there's going to be a huge problem there because there's

649
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Speaker 2: no set of standards as to like what's acceptable and

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Speaker 2: what's not, and then you're just going to have a

651
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Speaker 2: bunch of people that are like trying to influence little kids.

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Speaker 2: And and we've heard about this all the time about

653
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Speaker 2: like Kim Kardashian saying her son like walked into some

654
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Speaker 2: room on Roadblocks and there was like a sex tape

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Speaker 2: of her and stuff, and there's there's sexual trafficking on there.

656
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Speaker 2: There's all this crazy stuff going on on there, so

657
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: which I don't know how. I don't know how they

658
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: can monitor that, honestly, if they're letting any old person

659
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: put stuff on, So don't you.

660
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: Think the game they could monitor it by making the

661
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: games have to be approved before they're public by somebody

662
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: that works.

663
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: There not Yeah, and maybe maybe they are approved to

664
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: some extent, but I guess the problem is is that

665
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: when you go in these games, sometimes you could go

666
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: in like a room in a room and a room

667
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: and a room, and then that's where like the shady

668
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: thing is the kids have showed me stuff sometimes that

669
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, I don't not. I haven't seen

670
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: any sexual stuff that I've been like what, But I

671
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: have seen some stuff that I felt like was a

672
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: little bit too scary and like like murdery kind of weird.

673
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they were playing a game a couple

674
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: of weeks ago when I overheard her being like, oh,

675
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: don't shoot me, and I'm like, what is happening?

676
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then there was this game that they were

677
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: really into a couple months called uh Dressed to Impress

678
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: on There And it was like a game where which

679
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was cool at first, kind of like

680
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: I try to look at what they're doing on there

681
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: and the kids. You go in this room and there's

682
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: like all these things available like skirts and shirts and

683
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: shoes and hairstyles, and you have this avatar and you

684
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: could change they do like they do fashion shows, so

685
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: the do a theme like eighties, and you pick all

686
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: the stuff and you could change the colors of the

687
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: clothes and the hair and the makeup and all, and

688
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: then to look eighties themes. And then you do a

689
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: fashion show and and then you have your avatar walk down,

690
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: and then like you and your friends along with anyone

691
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: else that you're playing with, can like vote and you

692
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: could win if you're doing you know, if you got

693
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: first place or second place or whatever. But then as

694
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: that game, it was really good at first, but then

695
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: as it started having updates and stuff, it was like

696
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: the clothes were way too slutty, like it's sexy lingerie,

697
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: like Sabrina Carpenter, and like these games our kids are

698
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: playing these, they're not. There's no adults playing these games.

699
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: It's children.

700
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: Well there are adults plays and then well they're losers.

701
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: So anyway, like I'm just like this is just so

702
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: inappropriate the way the girl was like. So then they

703
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: started introducing all of these poses and the poses were

704
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: like way too sexual, and I just was like, yeah,

705
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: I'm not into this anymore. And whatever, like maybe I'm

706
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: kind of a prude or whatever. But I'm just like,

707
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: I don't see why a girl needs to be wearing

708
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: like sexy lingerie and a garter belt and thigh high

709
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: stockings at Like, my kids don't need to dress up

710
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: in avatar to look like that.

711
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 3: It's just weird.

712
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: So so with roadblocks, they're constantly saying that they're doing

713
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff to try to make it safe for kids,

714
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: but yet every single week in the news we're talking

715
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: about something else that happened.

716
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: They are not.

717
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: And there's basic things they could implement, which is like,

718
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: isn't there a big thing first first of all, where

719
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: it's like they could have no friends at all, or

720
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: they can except for a request from everybody, like it's

721
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: not it can't be approved. So they could also be

722
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: approving these games to avoid situations like this, And then

723
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: they could be blocking out certain words, like they should

724
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: not allow any words like email addresses, phone numbers. If

725
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: they could detect that somebody's putting in an address or

726
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: saying discord with a different user name, they should be

727
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: blocking out those words. So kids cannot be taken off

728
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: of roadblocks, because that's what happened in this case. The

729
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: mom ended up finding the girls journal detailing how she

730
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: met the people from this extremist group on roadblocks, they

731
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: encouraged her to move over to their discord page and

732
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: then she ended up following them on TikTok later. So

733
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the point the problem with these predators is they're meeting

734
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: the children on roadblocks and then taking them off of

735
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: the app to have unmonitored conversations with them.

736
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: So all right, So part of the problem though, is

737
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: so roadblocks, I think they're total like scumbags, and I'm

738
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: not trying to stand up for them at all, but

739
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: there has Like parents at this point, if you're buying

740
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: your kid a device like an iPad or a phone,

741
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: you have to know about this kind of stuff, and

742
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: there's a way to avoid this, and like I know

743
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: because I do.

744
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: It the kids.

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: There's a simple thing at least if you have an

746
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: Apple device that you could put to monitor your kid's

747
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: phone or iPad, that doesn't allow them to download any

748
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: apps without your permission. So in my opinion, there's no

749
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: reason a thirteen year old has a TikTok and so

750
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: just don't let them download the app. And there's no

751
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: reason a thirteen year old has a discord like, if

752
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: she didn't have those two apps and didn't have any

753
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: way to access them, then like this would have never

754
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: that part of it would have never happened.

755
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: But what if she's accessing them in a friend's house.

756
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: Listen, It's completely possible that she can, because like you

757
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: still have to deal with your friend's kid, the kids

758
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: having phones that don't have any kind of limitations. It's

759
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: always a problem that a parent's going to have. But like,

760
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: as far as what's in your control of it, and

761
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: they spend the most time at your house, the most

762
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: control of it is to just when they want to

763
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: download an app, Like my kid wants to download an app.

764
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: They send me apps all the time. Sometimes it's like

765
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: I want to have a Hollister app so I could

766
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: look at what the new shirts are. Other times it's

767
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: like I look at these apps and I'm just and

768
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't even have an example of one. But there's

769
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: often times I look at it and then I'll read

770
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: the ratings and it'll just say like, oh, it's it's

771
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 2: for fourteen plus or eighteen plus, and then.

772
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: That one said either there's this one I feel like

773
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: it's called like your Story or something like that, and

774
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: it presents as like an innocent game, but then if

775
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: you ever see the previews for it, it'll be like

776
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I got pregnant by my sister's husband. What do I do?

777
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

778
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Like what?

779
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

780
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Exactly being advertised to children through other kids games.

781
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: And all of the apps that I see exactly, And

782
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: that's what happens because they play certain games, and then

783
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: that's how they hear about the other games and stuff

784
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: and listen, like stuff slips through the cracks all the

785
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: time because kids are smart. They like the same thing

786
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: with me. When my mom told me I couldn't watch MTV,

787
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: I went over to my friend's house and watched it.

788
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Like kids do that. That's like normal shit. So you

789
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 2: have to try to You just have to like try

790
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: to tackle it every single time it happens. And I

791
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: feel like that's the biggest thing with Like it's just

792
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: so easy. If a kid has access to download the apps,

793
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: they could download TikTok and create themselves an account, and like,

794
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: how would you ever even know it? Yes, they could

795
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: go on their friend's phone, but that's kind of a

796
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: pain in the ass, and they won't be on it

797
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: anywhere near as much as they will be at your house.

798
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: No, what's scary about this group in particular is that

799
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: they apparently encourage kids to take their own life or

800
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: the lives of others through school shootings or bombings. So

801
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like that's the one option the girl took.

802
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: So then it runs these groups, can't they like since the.

803
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: Police are involved now exactly, Like it's it's not that

804
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: hard to find people like there are What exactly is

805
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: because I understand what TikTok is?

806
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: What is discord? Exactly is it?

807
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: We've been over this a thousand times.

808
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: It's similar to really understand it.

809
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: It's like Reddit. It's a forum website, but specifically for gaming.

810
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: People use it for other things too, Like I think

811
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Catmom told us on the YouTube live she uses it

812
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: to discuss books she's reading. So it's just a forum

813
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: website to talk about anything. But it's not like Reddit.

814
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: It's not monitored, so talk about anything.

815
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: So it's because like we've been hearing that with this

816
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: with all of like school shooters and these like political

817
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: shooters and stuff, like their discord is like they're having

818
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: conversations that definitely should have been flagged by something. Some

819
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: of the stuff that some of these people are saying.

820
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, Discord needs to have some responsibility too, But then

821
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I guess if you say that, then Reddit's gonna have

822
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: to have some flagging too, And like it's just like

823
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: where do you draw the line?

824
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: Well, uh, yeah, I mean I don't know.

825
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: I just and listen, Like I understand from this mom's perspective,

826
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: she has a thirteen year old kid, Like I said,

827
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: so many kids. I don't know what the percentage of

828
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: children that use roadblocks, but it's high. Like it's just

829
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: a lot of kids use roadblocks. You assume as a

830
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: parent that they're on a platform that's made for children,

831
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: that it's going to be like the most safe thing,

832
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: and they were, And her kid was introduced to all

833
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: of this stuff and is now dead. So like, of

834
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: course she wants to go after roadblocks, which she should

835
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: because I think the more people that go after roadblocks

836
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: the better.

837
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: But I think she made it.

838
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: Very clear she doesn't want money. She just wants them

839
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: to implement the changes so this doesn't.

840
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: Happen to Yeah, I mean, like I guess my thing

841
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: is like, let roadblocks. You can't sit around and wait

842
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: for something like roadblocks to implement the changes, Like you

843
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: have to do your part as much as possible.

844
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, maybe the best thing ever will happen,

845
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: which is they have so many lawsuits in the next

846
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: couple of years that it will bankrupt them and then

847
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: they'll be forced to close down.

848
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: Anyway. I doubt that.

849
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: I doubt, but I mean they make so much money.

850
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: I just can't even explain to you. I don't even

851
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: know what their numbers are. I just think if Zuckerberg

852
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: has the potential to really clamp down on children's activity

853
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: on Facebook with a Messenger, then Rollblocks, who has so

854
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: much more money for that, can do.

855
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: It as well.

856
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: They have the ability because anybody that could code has

857
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: the ability.

858
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean with Facebook, it's been around for

859
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: a while for the messenger kids. I mean like the

860
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: kids were doing it during the pandemic and that's already

861
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: been five years.

862
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: Like it's been around.

863
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: It's not like they're hiring me and they're like, all right,

864
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: code this entire gaming platform to be safe for children.

865
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: When I could do very basic stuff, like these people

866
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: are developing games, they're professional coders. They can do whatever

867
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: they want. They're choosing not to and that's the problem here.

868
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've had enough examples on this show

869
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: that it seems like this is intentional, which which is

870
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: just really upsetting honestly. But I mean, just I guess

871
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: the advice that I feel like I have said this

872
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: every time now because a lot of it is kids

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Speaker 2: getting recruited off of roadblocks, right, and they aren't stopping it.

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Speaker 2: It's happening all the time. So now, like what what

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Speaker 2: they can control?

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Speaker 3: Do we have?

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Speaker 1: They can just do very simple things, and I know

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Speaker 1: people can get around.

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Speaker 2: I'm like a hair away from just I never want

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Speaker 2: to be that mom that like doesn't let my kids

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Speaker 2: do what like stuff like that, because of course I

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Speaker 2: will be like.

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Speaker 3: That with social media, I don't give a shit, but.

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Speaker 2: I guess with roadblocks, I'm just kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just want to let them do it and this

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Speaker 2: and that. But I'm just get every every week I'm

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Speaker 2: getting closer and closer to pulling the plug on it

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Speaker 2: because of this stuff that just frightens the hell out

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Speaker 2: of me.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you at all. I mean I worry

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Speaker 1: about my future of motherhood and how I'm going to

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Speaker 1: like approach this at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I luckily for me, like my kids

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Speaker 2: are are kind of like getting over roadblocks, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's like the actual platform is just

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Speaker 2: fizzling out or just like my kids are getting older

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Speaker 2: and they're interested in other and other types of things

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Speaker 2: to do. Hopefully that's it. But like it's big, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of kids on there that are actually

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Speaker 2: really little, like six and seven years old on there.

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