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Speaker 1: Rock and Roll, touchdown Houston. We have expectations. We're standing.

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Speaker 1: We hold ourselves too sucked. I'm bringing out the promise

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Speaker 3: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program. We are live and

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Speaker 3: having fun. Is always off season in full gear, and

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Speaker 3: the Texans off season is going to be busy. A

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Speaker 3: if you call it action, it's activity. A lot of

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Speaker 3: We'll go over the whole thing, maybe in fine detail

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Speaker 3: tonight and let's dig in, shall we. I just heard

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably pretty fair because free agency, Hey,

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Speaker 3: to discuss. Good evening your thoughts on that subject.

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Speaker 1: To start, well, thank.

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Speaker 4: You for having me on two times this week after

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Speaker 4: I spoke with you guys Monday. In free agency, people

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Speaker 4: not going to go crazy. They've never gone crazy. Under

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Speaker 4: Dlphin Schultz. If you don't re sign him, you have

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Speaker 4: So Devin Singletary, so I'll focus at him, is the

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Speaker 2: With the free agency Texans have or hat on the

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Speaker 1: Is there a player.

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Speaker 2: Or two in your mind that are must have back

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Speaker 1: Of the free agents, I mean, John.

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Speaker 4: I would put Grenard there because even if they resigned Gerard,

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Speaker 4: I think Dalton Schultz. There's other free agents out there

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Speaker 1: I think this whole thing is like a Rubik's cube.

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Speaker 3: You make this move because you made that move, and

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs or Sakwan Barkley.

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Speaker 1: He says, I'll work out the money.

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Speaker 3: We got a plan, but you guys get to pick

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Speaker 4: First, Well, first of all, I would take the one

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Speaker 4: Can Josh can? Josh Daniels can say? Kwan Barkley? Do

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Speaker 4: So you have to have somebody that you truly believe,

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Speaker 1: And I you and I talked about this a lot.

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Speaker 2: We weren't totally sure why the Texans didn't use Damian

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Speaker 1: So it definitely is gonna be interesting to watch. John.

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Speaker 2: Because we talk about the running game, and we've talked

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Speaker 4: I would like to point out I would not invest

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Speaker 1: We all know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: General, we really haven't talked since the conclusion of the season.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: What is more surprising to you that Bill Belichick doesn't

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Speaker 1: Which is more surprising.

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Speaker 4: Ray Bow, because I thought he'd get a job easy.

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Speaker 4: and I never thought Belichick I don't know. Arthur Blank

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Speaker 2: General Again, to Mark's point, I don't know how much

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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised. I wrote a column for Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: I don't like that for Brian Callahan, that he's never

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Speaker 4: You know, Gary kubiek Let, Kyle Shanahan do it a

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Speaker 2: you think O'Brien does that Boston College.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's in his territory as he was when he

436
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Speaker 4: was with the Patriots, and he had his cup of

437
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Speaker 4: coffee at Ohio State. Bill walked into the Texas situation

438
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Speaker 4: in the history of college sports with what he took

439
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Speaker 4: over at Penn State, and he did a really good job,

440
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Speaker 4: but that was Penn Stay. It's hard to win at BC.

441
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 4: But I can hear some guy coming in, ain't coach.

442
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Speaker 4: I want a million dollars. I only made a hundred

443
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Speaker 4: thousand last year. Bill going ballistic, They better get that

444
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Speaker 4: teapot out and I get two teapots out again. Because

445
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Speaker 4: it's changed since he was there considerably. I think he

446
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Speaker 4: can have a tough time dealing with it, and I'm

447
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Speaker 4: guessing his goal is try to come back to the

448
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Speaker 4: NFL as a head coach. Did not work out the

449
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: way they wanted in New England. But I'm happy for Bill.

450
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Speaker 4: You know, he's from up to He fits right in

451
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Speaker 4: and I wish him the best of love.

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Speaker 1: One more quick one for you here a general.

453
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Speaker 3: Johnny and I watched the NFL Today documentary You Are

454
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Speaker 3: Looking Live? Is that the best studio show ever? What

455
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Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that? I don't know if you

456
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Speaker 3: caught the documentary, but I watched.

457
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Speaker 4: I watched it twice, and I thought, you know, it

458
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Speaker 4: was the first good one. There have been so many

459
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Speaker 4: great ones since. I wouldn't necessarily say it's the best,

460
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Speaker 4: but they everything they did was new. It was blazing

461
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Speaker 4: new trails. You know, Phillis George left, Jane Kennedy comes in,

462
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: then they dropped Jane Kennedy for Phillis George again. And

463
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Speaker 4: I hope that Brent Musburger is not in the Pro

464
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Speaker 4: Football of Fame. Every year, the Pro Football of Fame

465
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Speaker 4: selects one person in the broadcast media for the Pete

466
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Speaker 4: Rosel Award and they get honored as the writer does

467
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Speaker 4: up to Canton during induction weekend, which we will all

468
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Speaker 4: be attending next season, because Andre Johnson's in there, and

469
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Speaker 4: so Mousburger at eighty four, he's been way overlooked, and

470
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Speaker 4: I'll bet you he is going to be the recipient

471
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Speaker 4: and it will be well deserved. And I love hearing

472
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Speaker 4: a lot of behind the scenes things about Brent and

473
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Speaker 4: Jimmy the Great and those George and Jimmy the Greek.

474
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Speaker 4: But they were trail blazers, big time trail blazers.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, good thoughts there and can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see it again. Discuss it with Johnny in the next

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Speaker 3: half hour. John McClain, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: As always my pleasure. Guys.

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Speaker 4: I'll talk to you next week. Thank you. Have a

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Speaker 4: great night.

481
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Speaker 3: All right, we've got more likely to happen coming up

482
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Speaker 3: with a lot of different subjects to tackle, and then

483
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Speaker 3: we'll talk about that doc among many other things before

484
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Speaker 3: Area forty five takes over the airwaves on Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: six ' ten. It's Texans moving.

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Speaker 1: Right along with the program.

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Speaker 3: Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you, and we do

488
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Speaker 3: this every once in a while on a Thursday evening,

489
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Speaker 3: and we call it more likely to happen, Johnny, let's.

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Speaker 1: Go, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, all right, more likely to happen Mahomes Stroud

492
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Speaker 2: or lamar Win MVP.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, or the field. I got a

494
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Speaker 3: couple of the field questions here, so more likely to

495
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Speaker 3: win MVP in twenty twenty four, Mahomes, Stroud or Lamar.

496
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Speaker 3: You could pick one of those three or the field,

497
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Speaker 3: which is it, or any of those I've taken.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking that trio. I think one of those three

499
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Speaker 2: will end up winning it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

501
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Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to look at the odds

502
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Speaker 2: at some point because there might be some efficiencies that

503
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Speaker 2: you could take take advantage of. Because I do think

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Speaker 2: it'll be one of those three. It would be very

505
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Speaker 2: nice if it ends up being number seven right here.

506
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Speaker 2: I think it'll be tough for the Martin to do

507
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Speaker 2: it again. Oh did I did I tell you what I.

508
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Saw floating around? Now?

509
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: I don't know the truth all this and this Sometimes

510
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: when the social media and everything that's out there, you

511
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: never know what's being posted on, you know, my face

512
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: My face DeAndre Hopkins to the Baltimore Ravens. They could

514
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Speaker 1: use him. Wow, a lot of teams could use him. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought because that was one of the

516
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Speaker 2: things that Lamar had that he didn't stipulate it. He

517
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Speaker 2: didn't say it's got to happen before I signed, but

518
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Speaker 2: he's like, I want you to go out and get

519
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Speaker 2: O'Dell Beckham Junior and DeAndre Hopkins. Well they got OBJ.

520
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: I just don't think you should have OBJ and DeAndre Hopkins. No,

521
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: like the same guy, But I just I think that's redundant.

522
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: You move on from OBJ if you get DeAndre Hopkins.

523
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Speaker 2: But and I think DeAndre Hopkins is in a much

524
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Speaker 2: better position and the way he plays the position, much

525
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: better spot to help a team like that than OBJ is.

526
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Speaker 2: But I think if I'm a Raven, and I'm clearly not,

527
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Speaker 2: they'll be here this year stadium. I think if I'm them,

528
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Speaker 2: I kind of want to solve it another way.

529
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Speaker 1: Do I really want to go this direction? Again?

530
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Speaker 3: We found Save Flowers and I know he's got some

531
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Speaker 3: offfield stuff he's got to deal with, but man, what

532
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Speaker 3: a hell of a player he is. I know he

533
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: had a bad AFC Championship game, but we saw what

534
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Speaker 3: happened earlier in the week.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, go young or go youngman. Already you got Bateman.

536
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Speaker 2: You got to say, yeah, if you end up in

537
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Speaker 2: this draft fighting another wide receiver, I know what's a rookie.

538
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: But again with say man, they had a home run. Yeah,

539
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: obviously off the field stuff they've got to worry about

540
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: and get that on it. What's the future of Andrews

541
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Speaker 2: for them, That's a great question. I still think that

542
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Speaker 2: the way that Lamar plays the game, he's got to

543
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Speaker 2: have somebody in that position that is, you know, a

544
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: laporta type of Mark Andrews, you know, a receiver type

545
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: that can get open that he can get the ball.

546
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Speaker 1: You know. But look, likely is likely.

547
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: Scared me going into that game as much as anybody,

548
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: and then has a touchdown against US. So point being

549
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: three MVP candidates, I think it's one of those three

550
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: because if for some reason, if CJ doesn't take that

551
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: huge next step, then Mahomes is going to have that year.

552
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: They talked about it on the podium on the DIAS.

553
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: They were like, we're going for three. Like they're out

554
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: there claiming three, like we need a three peat.

555
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Speaker 1: Nobody has done that in the NFL.

556
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Speaker 2: We're going for the three pat Now that's a lot

557
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: of pressure to put on themselves, but you got to

558
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: think that's going to motivate them, and that's going to

559
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: motivate Mahomes. So I think those are probably the three

560
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: top candidates. The only thing I would add in there

561
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Speaker 2: is is there's somebody from the NFC, because there's gonna

562
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Speaker 2: be somebody over in the NFC side where you go, Okay.

563
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Speaker 3: That guy just can't kidding because the Dallas Cowboys could

564
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Speaker 3: go sixteen and one, and Dak's not going to get

565
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Speaker 3: the votes because everyone wants to see it in the

566
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Speaker 3: postseason first exactly, and they're not going to be able

567
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Speaker 3: to vote after, although they will the next year. But Johnny,

568
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Speaker 3: free agents for the Ravens. You ready for some of

569
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Speaker 3: these namesne Restricted, obj who we were just talking about,

570
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: Gus Edwards, that's a big one for them, Rocky Scene,

571
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Agualore Patrick, Queen, Tyler Huntley, the backup quarterback.

572
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Speaker 1: JD.

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Speaker 3: Clowney is a free agent. Dobbin's a free agent coming

574
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Speaker 3: back from the injury. Metabique is a free agent. Oh

575
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Speaker 3: my gosh, go Duvernet is a free agent. Yeah, the

576
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: list is long for them. The Texans have some free

577
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: agent business to take care of, but certainly so do

578
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Speaker 3: the Ravens. Good segment for next week. The rest of

579
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Speaker 3: the AFC South free agents book it for maybe Monday. Okay,

580
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Speaker 3: let's change the game a little bit, all right, Let's

581
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Speaker 3: do a little would you. Let's do a little wood

582
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Speaker 3: you boomerang style, all right?

583
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Speaker 1: Do Edy Jidevion Clowney? No at all?

584
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Speaker 3: You know, really, I don't know. I think he helps,

585
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Speaker 3: but he's a rotational guy. He's Derek Barnett for your team. Now,

586
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's the same player as Derek Barnett, right,

587
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Speaker 3: and I'm not taking anything away from JD.

588
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: But he's a role player. He's a role player. Okay.

589
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: The Texans have a very real issue here. What do

590
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: you do about Jonathan Grenard? Do you pay him? Do

591
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Speaker 1: you franchise him? Do you move on? I don't know.

592
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Speaker 3: I love Jay Jonathan Grenard JG. I'd love to have

593
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Speaker 3: him back. I got j G and JD going on here, right.

594
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you bring back JG, then I don't think

595
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: you bring back clown I don't think it.

596
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: But you still need your Barnett type guy. And maybe

597
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: he's on the roster. Maybe he's not, but probably not.

598
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 3: So you have to go ahead and take care of that. Barnett,

599
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: by the way, an unrestricted free agent for the Texans. Okay,

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Speaker 3: DJ reader, how's the money?

601
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Speaker 1: How's the money? Honey?

602
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: I know?

603
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: And what am I doing about Rankins? First?

604
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Speaker 3: I have to address rankings before I get to the

605
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: reader talk reader banged up this year a little bit.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those sounds he's gonna be okay. I think

607
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: it was an upper body injury thing. I think he's

608
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. What if the money is what if

609
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: the money is the same leader here?

610
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't do that.

611
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: You're asking me if I want my children back, but

612
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know, uh, you know how I feel

613
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: about Clowney. I love Clowney. I think he was just

614
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he was treated by fans in medias

615
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: as much as you know the impact he had in

616
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Speaker 2: this building and what he was able to do in

617
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Speaker 2: the field. I think the expectations were through the roof

618
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: for him, and then the injury. I think it probably

619
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: took away a little bit. I love Clowney, but I

620
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't bring back Clowney in that way. What kind of

621
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: money meter would? I would absolutely do it because there's

622
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: a part of me thinking that Rank's not coming back.

623
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why. But if Rank decides to come back, okay, sorry, DJ,

624
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: we're good. I would love to have Rank and Malik back.

625
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I still think you have to get a little bit

626
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: younger at that position, or younger piece at that position,

627
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: maybe a versatile kind of inside outside guy, or maybe

628
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: you just get big and fat.

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Speaker 3: Kurt He has entered the chat, by the way, saying, Hey,

630
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Speaker 3: I'm that guy. Hey, I just a player of the

631
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Speaker 3: game against Baltimore.

632
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I thought Hlil Davis has also entered the chat.

633
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: I know that's the thing. But what's the common thread

634
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: amongst all of them?

635
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Speaker 1: Free agent?

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00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: No?

637
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: No, not? They're like three hundred pounds ish. Oh you

638
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: want a more svell I want fat? No, I want to?

639
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: You want really fat?

640
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: I want fat. I want de and Andre sweat three

641
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: hundred seventy pounds clogging up to a to B gap

642
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: by himself.

643
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: That's what I want.

644
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: Guys, I want that. You know how I want that too.

645
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: I want a flat tackle, fat athletic. That's what I want.

646
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: It's not much to ask kind of getting off track here,

647
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: because we get back to it. We have we have

648
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: to get all right, So you decided it was gonna

649
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: be one of those three. We're taking one of those

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Speaker 3: three for that to happen, all right. Next, more likely

651
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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 1: Here, more likely to happen, more likely.

653
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Speaker 3: Texans draft from the O line group or the D

654
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Speaker 3: line group of rookies at pick number twenty three, or

655
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Speaker 3: the field. I'm gonna let you bunch in O line

656
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Speaker 3: and D line and then compare it to the field.

657
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Speaker 3: Which side are you going on? Not what you would do,

658
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Speaker 3: but the Texans will do at pick number twenty three

659
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Speaker 3: defensive line, So you're gonna pick from the line line

660
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Speaker 3: D line.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of not a lot, I've seen

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Speaker 2: a few. I saw one the other day that had

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Speaker 2: the Texans. I can't remember. I think it was maybe

665
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Speaker 2: Chad Reuter from NFL dot Colm Maybe I can't remember.

666
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Speaker 1: I don't want to put that out chat if it

667
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Speaker 1: wasn't him.

668
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Speaker 2: But I saw one the other day that had the

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Speaker 2: Texans taking a tackle and I just thought, that's just

670
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 2: not paying attention. And I understand the people that are

671
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: doing these mock drafts. They don't know the thirty two

672
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: teams as intimately as we're gonna I mean, they should

673
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: know them, but they're not gonna know him as intimately

674
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: well as we're going to. But you got to at

675
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: least look at things and go, wait a second. They

676
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: signed Titus last year, They have Laramie they've got their

677
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: two tackles, they're gonna be okay. And I think that

678
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: George or Charlie comes back in a swing tackle capacity

679
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Speaker 2: at a minimum and a way you go. I don't

680
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Speaker 2: think you're putting pick twenty three on an offensive lineman,

681
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: but could it be an interior offensive lineman.

682
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Speaker 1: Do you want to look at a center? Do you

683
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: like what just did at left guard?

684
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like Jackson Powers Johnson from Oregon the

685
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: best center in this class? You feel like he's and

686
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Speaker 2: I think I have my Haris one hundred right at

687
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Speaker 2: twenty three right now, So do.

688
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Speaker 1: You look there?

689
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Speaker 2: I feel very confident that there is going to be

690
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Speaker 2: a money spent on the defensive line through free agency,

691
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Speaker 2: B draft picks on the defense defensive line as high

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Speaker 2: as twenty three. And I do think that they'll look

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Speaker 2: at an address interior offensive line in some way, shape

694
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Speaker 2: or form that they can find somebody on, you know,

695
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: late day two, early day three.

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Speaker 1: Man, this guy's still here. Holy cow, we'll we'll jump

697
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: all over this.

698
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: You know now that we look back, we're like Tank

699
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: Dell made it all the way to pick sixty seven,

700
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Speaker 2: sixty eight. You know what if you find an interior

701
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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Now I'm not a I think the interior

702
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: offensive line is okay. The tackles are pretty good, tackles

703
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: are pretty deep, so I understand them giving us a tackle,

704
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: but I don't understand it. So I think it's gonna

705
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: come from the defensive line group. I think the defensive

706
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: lineman kind of fit in that range too. I think

707
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Speaker 2: there's good value there. And we're talking defensive line, we're

708
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: also talking about inside and outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's depth that all that throughout

710
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Speaker 1: the first round.

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Speaker 2: So I think twenty three is a good spot to

712
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: look defensive line and find an impact player there.

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Speaker 3: People ask me about the offensive line because they know

714
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: you want to run the ball better. They assume it's

715
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Speaker 3: an offensive line thing, and maybe it is. But here's

716
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: the deal. Guys coming back. Patterson's coming back, Kendrick Green.

717
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: I see Kendrick Green Kenyan Green in the building as well.

718
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: I see the Greens. The Green brothers are in the building.

719
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Speaker 3: They're not really brothers, but that's awesome that they can

720
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: both come back and help your team along with Patterson,

721
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Speaker 3: and you have Juice and you have Deeterer.

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Speaker 1: Still here is Deeter a free he's just a free agent.

723
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Speaker 1: He's a free agent. Gosh, we got a lot of them.

724
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Speaker 1: We got all right three dozen of them or something

725
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Speaker 1: like that.

726
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Speaker 3: I think that's the number to the next one, all right,

727
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: more likely to have a better season. These are Texans

728
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: opponents from twenty twenty four, and you know we do

729
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: this from time to time. One of them in the division,

730
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, the other the New England Patriots. Better

731
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Speaker 3: season in twenty twenty four. The Tennessee Titans are the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you the quarterback of either team. I

733
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: could tell you it's probably going to be Will Levis

734
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: for the Titans. Is it going to be Mac Jones

735
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: for the Patriots heading into year four? It might be,

736
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: but they have new head coaches. They're completely different situations.

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00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: Better season Patriots Titan Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that just to anger the Titans fans too.

739
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: I do think that Brian Callahan will be the right

740
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: fit for Tennessee. I was doing a lot of reading

741
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: about him yesterday, just seeing he had this press conference,

742
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: you know, a few days ago, and so there have

743
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: been a lot of talking, you know, Bengals players have

744
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: been talking about him and what Brian Callahan meant. He

745
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: brings in his dad, Bill Callahan is one of the

746
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: greatest offensive line coaches all the time. That's gonna help

747
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: that group. But he can't make chicken salad out of chicken.

748
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: You know what.

749
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Speaker 2: They've got to get some more pieces. They need free

750
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: agent pieces on the offensive line. They need draft picks

751
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. And then, do you really believe

752
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: in Will Levis?

753
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not convinced.

754
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: The Patriots have the opportunity, kind of like we did

755
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: last year, reset the franchise with pick number three in

756
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: the draft.

757
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Now, we ended up getting the best quarterback in the draft.

758
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Now, a lot of people, including me, I had Bryce

759
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: at number one, very very close to CJ. We were

760
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: gonna have the opportunity to pick one of the top

761
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks. The Patriots sitting at number three, might have

762
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: that same opportunity, depending on what happens in front of

763
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: them with Chicago and Washington. But I would imagine those

764
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: two are both going to take quarterbacks. So the Patriots

765
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: are gonna get the third quarterback. But I think the

766
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: three top quarterbacks in is draft. I think it's the

767
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: three top guys. Then I think there's a gap, and

768
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: you can maybe even say top two, top three, then

769
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: a gap, then JJ McCarthy, then another gap, then Pennix

770
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: and Knicks. So I think at the top, you got Caleb,

771
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: You've got Jaydon Daniels, and you got Drake May. The

772
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Patriots will get one of those three guys to reset

773
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: their franchise, and if they want to move from three

774
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: to two, they'll get their pick of the top two.

775
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: Because I think Caleb will go number one.

776
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be putative, like he's gonna be

777
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: tough for a team you get to number one because

778
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: they don't have to pay a lot.

779
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: The Bears got have to give up a lot to

780
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: give up to Kayleb Williams. Now what they do with

781
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, who cares?

782
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: But I think the Patriots have the opportunity to reset

783
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: their franchise at number three with a Jaydon Daniels, with

784
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Drake May. Now going through the Patriots, and I've been

785
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: kind of doing a deep dive of the Patriots kind

786
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: of starting there, I'll do it for all teams.

787
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: They do not have offensive talent.

788
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: They don't they don't have a tight end under contract

789
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: except for the Michael Petway, you heard him exactly. Offensive

790
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: line Trent Brown, michael On Way New their two tackles.

791
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: They're free agents, so they've got a lot to do,

792
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: but I would trust what they have on defense to

793
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 2: get it right. And then getting a quarterback of Daniels

794
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: may or Williams into New England can reset the whole

795
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: thing kind of like it did here.

796
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: We had a lot of talent that really nobody knew

797
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: about CJ. Will Tank.

798
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: They kind of helped raise, as you say, raise all

799
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: what the tide raises all boats. And it's kind of

800
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: like those three k in created a tide and kind

801
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: of raised everybody's play a little bit. I think that

802
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: can happen with the Patriots, but man, they've got some

803
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: holes to fill outside of quarterback.

804
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: But I got some picks to do it.

805
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say Patriots A for that reason be

806
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: because I don't want to see Will Levis and Titans

807
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: do anything this year either, do I All right, that's

808
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: gonna do it for this segment. Next up, Johnny and

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Speaker 2: I Boats.

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Speaker 3: You are looking live the NFL Today Pregame Show documentary,

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Speaker 3: The pregame show of the century, last century. What is

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Speaker 3: the best studio show of all time?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: It?

815
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Speaker 3: Is it something else? We'll discuss the documentary. You didn't

816
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Speaker 3: have to see it to hear this next conversation. Trust me,

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Speaker 3: it's Texans Radio. We are back in the hun day

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Speaker 3: Texans Radio studio. Or should I say you are looking

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Speaker 3: live at the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, if you're over the age of give me

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Speaker 1: an age forty five.

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Speaker 2: Your blood is flowing right now.

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Speaker 1: You are feeling it.

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Speaker 3: Brent Musburger and the Gang and I just cut it off.

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Speaker 3: They began every show Sunday afternoons like that. You're looking

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Speaker 3: live at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia or whatever the case

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Speaker 3: may be. Many of you saw the documentary on Sunday

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Speaker 3: Afternoon about that show that era seventies and mid eighties

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Speaker 3: into the mid eighties with Brent Musberger, Jimmy the Greek,

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Speaker 3: IRV Cross, Phyllis, George Jane Kennedy for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Great documentary, great show. It set the tone for studio shows.

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Speaker 1: It was the first. I didn't know this about that

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Speaker 1: documentary or about that show, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: That it's the first live yeah sports pregame show on

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Speaker 3: a regular basis I did not know that before that

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Speaker 3: they were all pre recorded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that they would record it on Friday. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about if a studio show recorded on Friday and

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Speaker 2: then played it before a game on Sunday. Yeah, think

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00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: about all the things you don't know. Think about all

841
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Speaker 2: the things you find out on Saturday day and it

842
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Speaker 2: was a different air warning.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the great things about the documentary. They're

845
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Speaker 3: going over how they got scores. They're have to call

846
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Speaker 3: up the press boss be on the phone with them.

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Speaker 3: There was no internet, there's no way to get the

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Speaker 3: information other than that as a idiot as it had

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Speaker 3: to come through to them. And one thing that didn't

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Speaker 3: do is how they set up the halftime, because halftime

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00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: is very complicated with these studio shows still, because you

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Speaker 3: have different games hitting the half at different times and

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: you have to repeat yourself a lot and that kind

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Speaker 3: of thing. JJ Watt talked about that in the studio

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Speaker 3: with us. I believe how crazy that is on the

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Speaker 3: CBS show. How about that our very own JJ Watt

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Speaker 3: is part of the NFL today.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say you replaced IRV Cross, although

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Speaker 2: I don't you know those four that started and then

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Speaker 2: Jane Kenny, those five, those are the five that I

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Speaker 2: always associate with NFL today. And as they talked about

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00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: in a documentary, it was it was groundbreaking because in

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, you didn't have you didn't have black

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Speaker 2: men or black women doing anything in TV.

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Speaker 1: And there's IRV Cross the main analyst for this show,

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Speaker 1: having played with the sports.

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Speaker 2: TV sports journalism, they just wasn't you know, wasn't plentiful

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00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: if at all. And all of a sudden here comes

870
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: CBS with his live show, and it's you know, Brent

871
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Musberger the voice, but then it's IRV Cross, it's Jimmy

872
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: the Greek.

873
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: They're talking about gambling.

874
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: They're talking about gambling at nineteen seventy five overtly, and

875
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: it's a great story of documentary about Pete Roselle saying, hey,

876
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: can y'all do me a favor, just don't talk about

877
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: the point spreads and how they got around talking about that,

878
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: which was interesting. So you had gambling, you had HERV Cross,

879
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Then you have Phillis George, you have a woman on

880
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: the set talking about football, talking to these football figure

881
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: these characters.

882
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: But I thought where she was genius. She was very

883
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: much like Deep.

884
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: Deep knew, Okay, if I need something football, She's coming

885
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: to me. But when Deep was sitting down interviewing somebody,

886
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: she was incredible. She could get them to say things.

887
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: She would interview you and I. She get you and

888
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: I to say things that were like, man, I didn't

889
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: even know I was gonna bring that up today. That's

890
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: what Philis George was for NFL today. And that was

891
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy five that that started. It was absolutely

892
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: incredible to see. So to your question, is it the

893
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: greatest studio show football in sports? I got a couple

894
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: I would I would throw up there to maybe consider.

895
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: All right, it was a special era because in the

896
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: same era you have Monday Night Football with Don Meretith

897
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: and Frank Gefford and Howard Cosell, and that was an

898
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: entity all to itself and it deserves.

899
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Does it have its own documentary? I think they're did

900
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: a different show there. There was a biopic about it.

901
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, there's a Howard Cosell documentary out there somewhere.

902
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, that needs to be redone and

903
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: be seen in any case, because it was amazing. You

904
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: just can't believe that there was a sportscaster like that, especially.

905
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: For the young folk.

906
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: Johnny, I'm doing this thing with Andrey Johnson yesterday in

907
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: front of all of business ops and some of football

908
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: ops as well. We got a packed auditorium and I'm

909
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: interviewing Drey on stage, and I'm thinking our.

910
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: Old employees really didn't watch him play much.

911
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: Unless you were a die hard fan in Houston, you

912
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: did not see a whole lot of Andrey Johnson. We

913
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: had some national games, no doubt, but unless you are

914
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: really plugged in, you don't know what he did.

915
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: You got to see the highlights. The highlights are how

916
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: you get to know Andrey Johnson. And that blows my mind.

917
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: Because for me, that's players like Roger Staubach and you know,

918
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: even old Campbell to it gree even before that Bart

919
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: start Jim Brown. You know, there's no way you can

920
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: find Jim Brown other than highlights. Really, you can find

921
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: tons of stuff on Andrey Johnson. And I'm not putting

922
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: him in that age group, but I'm just saying for

923
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: a younger set, it's that kind of thing.

924
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: They got to get to know him, all right. My, my,

925
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: favorite studio show ever.

926
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: I think it really is the best when you look

927
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: at where it came from, what it is, what it

928
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: still means today is the TNT guys. Yeah, Ernie and

929
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley and Kenny and Shack. I think they're amazing.

930
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 3: They're not great every single night. They do their best stuff.

931
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: Actually when the game is over, when they get into

932
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: late night mode, that's actually when they do their funniest.

933
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: A good call, Yeah, absolutely, I think that's the one

934
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: that I thought of first. It's you know, and it

935
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: comes down to chemistry, the chemistry that those guys have,

936
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: the way that I almost don't even listen to him

937
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: for the basketball information that I get. I like when

938
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: Kenny goes up to the tell straighter and I like

939
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: when he described like when people describe things that are

940
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: happening in a sport.

941
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I like that.

942
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: I like when people break that down. I think that's awesome.

943
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: That's why I kind of fell in love with doing

944
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: it myself. I think Ernie is the absolute John Stockton

945
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: of sports broadcasting, where he is gonna make everybody else

946
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: look good. He's gonna dish, He's gonna dish, he doesn't care.

947
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: He can score if he needs to. But if he

948
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: he's just gonna feed everybody. Yeah, and those guys just

949
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: just take I think that is absolutely number one. I think,

950
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I guess you'd call kind of

951
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: a studio show. I guess that's where it emanated. And

952
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned the word highlights, and highlights always stand out

953
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: to me. NFL Prime Time with Chris Berman and Tom Jackson,

954
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: that show when it would come on, it was on,

955
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: I would record it every single week and then I

956
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: would just end up watching it while it was going on.

957
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: And of course at that back then you had to

958
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: record it on a VCR.

959
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: I would record on a VCR because you couldn't watch

960
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: the highlights of all the NFL games any other way.

961
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: There really was no other way in the in the

962
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: NFL today times you could watch him at halftime of

963
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: those that was it. Harvard Cosell would do them Monday night,

964
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: Monday Night highlights and they were great. But then Primetime

965
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: comes along and now it's every game and it's that

966
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: NFL film's music, and it's Berman with the nicknames, and

967
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: it's Tom you know, Tom Jackson chiming in. And I

968
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: thought Tommy was really good and I thought they had

969
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: chemistry as well. That would be the other one.

970
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I would definitely category. I think you think it is, yes,

971
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: because here's the you have steak, you have Filevignon to

972
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: go over on that shot.

973
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: A pregame show you have to sort of I mean,

974
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: you have all the matchups to talk about. But why

975
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: am I watching this show. I've been reading about these

976
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: games all week. I've been hearing about these games all week.

977
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: Were you tell me that's interesting? And look back in

978
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: the day they had an advantage NFL today because all

979
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: you had what was in the paper, right, So you

980
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: are going to watch the pregame show to get some information.

981
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: Only a half hour long. It's a grey hour.

982
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight.

983
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: I know we could continue this conversation. Maybe we will tomorrow.

984
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: You never know, because I could talk sports broadcasting and

985
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 3: football and the Texans forever. All right, Patrick, Sean, they're

986
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: coming up, Sean Patrick.

987
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that an actor?

988
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: No?

989
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: They call it Area forty five. It's next. Thanks for listening.

990
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: Go Texans.