1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume the Colin Cowherd Podcast, brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Will he love basketball, golf, soccer or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan. Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win? All right, second third round 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft or wrapping up, I bring on 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. Former NFL pro scout Chad Millman will join 8 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: us in about thirty minutes. He will as always be 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: an absolute riot. All right, John, My takeaway early the 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins through their first four picks, got four starters. 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Now Javon Holland not necessarily a big, physical safety. I mean, listen, 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: he's a good player. He'll start for them. He was 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the second safety on the board. They passed on the 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: TCU safety. But I thought Liam Eichenberg starts for them 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: now at left or right tackle. Jalen Waddle is going 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: to get a lot of playing time. Jaalen Phillips. I 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: think Greer is doing a nice job. Miami to me, 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: looks like they got four starters with their first four picks. 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: That was my takeaway. You know, after that, once you 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: get to fifth and six, picks a lot of shoulders 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: shrugs for me because I just I just don't know. 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: But that's kind of my takeaway. I thought Miami found 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: four starters. Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean they were. They've 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: done a good job of acquiring assets and turning them in. 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday Waddles a big time player, and he 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: obviously has a poor with the quarterback. To me, they 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: were good last year, right, They won ten games last 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: year kind of out of nowhere. The coach is good. 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I think they have one major question mark. Can the 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: quarterback play right? You know, you and I have talked 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: about Robotic obviously physically doesn't look like a lot of 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the top guys. So to me that he's one of 33 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: the biggest stories in the league. Like this guy went 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: from tank for Tuah number one overall pick to coming 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: off a major injury. So I think let's all give 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: them a little bit of you know, not a pass, 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: but just you understand it. This year, if it looks bad, 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: they got a problem because part of they were in 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: position to take one of these quarterbacks. Right. They could 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: have taken Trey Lance, could have taken Justic Fields, I 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: could take Mac Jones, and they went all in on Tua. Right, 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: move right. They trade back, acquired multiple first round picks 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: from the Niners, trade back up to six. They'll get 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a star wide receiver. Like you said, get a tackle, 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: so they have multiple tackles the last two years. Take 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the kid from USC, the Notre Dame tackle this year. 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: But all that stuff's great, but if your quarterback play sucks, 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. That's what this league is now. So 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: that to me is the that's their only question mark. 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: They're good. It's interesting with the Jets. I know Jet 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: fans are getting fired up, but let me play Devil's advocate, 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: and I like Joe Douglas. So they probably don't upgrade 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: at quarterback the first year because Zach Wilson's a rookie 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: and it's a great defensive head coach to vision, he's 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: going to be a little over his skis. They do 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: upgrade on the offensive line with Elijah Vera Tucker, but 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: their third pick Elijah More, very good player from Mole 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: miss I watched a lot of secit football. He can play. 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: But they have Corey Davis. I mean they went and 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: spent a lot of money at wide receiver. Jamison Crowder's fine. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: They have Denzel Mims last year, and I thought to myself, 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: there's three really good running backs. You didn't get any 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: of them. Asante Samuel Junior, the corner was there. I 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: don't know if I love the pick. I mean, is 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that a classic? He was the best guy available on 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: our board. I mean I was told that they were 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: going to go with the North Carolina guy talking to 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: people in the league earlier day, that's what they were 69 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna do. Yep, so did I. I had a buddy 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: that said, listen, I watched Elijah Moore during the season. 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: We had him in the third round. He's like I 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: asked some of my friends around the league. They had him, 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, late second, early third. He goes to his 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: pro day, he ran like a four three five. Naturally, 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you just kind of get pumped up when you're that fast, 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: but he's really that fast. Now I think they're looking 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: for a speed demon. One thing Zach Wilson did a 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: lot last year was hit big place down the field. 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: So you just try to get them with a player 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: they can hit the ball down the field. Like you said, 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: they have a little bit of an offensive line. Now 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: you protect them, but that you know, those speed receivers 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: For every DeShawn Jackson, some guys are terrible, right, they're 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: very hit or miss john super fast guys. I can 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: argue they have the worst running back unit in the 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: league still. Well, Frank Goros our starter at seventy years 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: old last year, I mean, what were they doing. I mean, 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: that's a crazy Colin, and it's really to me, it's 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: really a three running back draft. I just it was 90 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: a two corner draft. Everything after that you're talking about injuries, 91 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: length issues. I don't know. I do think sometimes, Colin, 92 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you can have a philosophy internally that you just believe 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: we don't draft running backs this high, and you just 94 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: kind of stick to it. But I do think you 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: got to be open minded sometimes with stuff like that. 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: But again, I heard from people that know Joe Douglas 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: that Nott coming into today, clearly the Jags weren't going 98 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: to take a running back, right, they just took etn 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: that He's like, they're just gonna land North Carolina. Kid's 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna land right in their lap. And they passed on him, 101 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: and did Broncos train it up to get him? That 102 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Broncos having a good Broncos are good, they're talented team. 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: They just don't have a quarterback. What do you make 104 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer? So he got a quarterback. I don't 105 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: have a problem with etn And my theory is this 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: whole bell cow running back thing is mostly nonsense because 107 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: you know Christian McCaffrey, the bell cow now is all 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: banged up. Sae Quon Barkley's hurt. Zekiel Elliott's yards per 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: carry have gone down every year. I like two backs. 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. Then they go 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: out and they get the best Georgia corner Green Bay 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: in the first round, got the second best, and then 113 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: they take Walker a little who David Shaw told me 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: years ago he started as a true freshman at left 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: tackle for Stanford, and I remember talking, Oh yeah, David 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: told me, he goes Colin. I've never started a left 117 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: tackle as a freshman. He goes. This kid is a 118 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: top first round pick. It's interesting. I almost wonder if 119 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: Urban really trusts David Shaw, because you got a trust 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: him a little, but he was an opt out and 121 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: he got hurt. Your thoughts on Urban's last couple of days, Well, 122 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I think I think he's a good example. I mean obviously, 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: I think Trevor's just an excellent player in ETN. Who's 124 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: you know who doesn't like Travis Etn. The thing with 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: Little once you get to the second round, you get 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: a guy that has first round talent, and there's a 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: lot of guys that just they're there for a reason. 128 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Right back injuries, knees. I look up the highlights Bryce 129 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Love and j j Artega Whiteside because the last time 130 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: he played was guys that have been the league now 131 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: for three years. Right, yeah, he opts out he's been injured. 132 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I think in twenty nineteen his injury was the week one, 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: so he missed the entire season. But what teams love 134 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: in a draft room, Colin, is when you go, this 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: guy's a five star recruit. This guy when he's played, 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: he's blocked X, Y and Z that are now pros 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: in the league. Now. It could be three and four 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: years removed, but you go, he's healthy now, he worked 139 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: well at his pro day. A guy like that, even 140 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: if he's got injury concerns, isn't last into the fourth round. 141 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson's a guy like that too, right, He's a 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: big time five star baller at Alabama, but he's gotten 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: multiple knee injuries. But you're looking at him in the 144 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: second round. You're going, how do I pass on guys 145 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: like this? That to me is a lot in corners. 146 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Asante Samuel the back injury. The safety from TCU had 147 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: a back like that. That's just where these first round 148 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: talents get pushed down. And I never have a problem 149 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: taking offensive lineman early in drafts. I mean, that's just 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the way you build the team. I gotta be honest 151 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: with you. I may be critical of Cleveland from time 152 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: to time, but if you go between free agency and 153 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: the draft, they've totally rebuilt the back end of their defense. 154 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: John totally rebuilt it. I remember watching kind of crushing 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I sent out a tweet and that in 156 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game, and a buddy that does 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the area immediately texts me. He's like, you know, he's 158 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: thrown at a first round corner, And I think, well, 159 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: a lot of times we don't look at Northwestern like 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: we would most blue chip programs that they have a 161 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: guy and he's like that guy's good that he's throwing 162 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: at and he was given, you know, breaking up balls, 163 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I mean they were good already, right. 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Their roster at the end of last season was a 165 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: top six seven roster in the league. Now think of 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: all the guys they've added, and Baker's just a little 167 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: more comfortable in this offense. The offense we've seen it 168 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: with Shanahan, We've seen it with Leaflour, We've seen it 169 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: with McVeigh, is just very quarterback friendly. If their defense 170 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: is good, are they the favorite to win the division? 171 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: You know? I mean the Steelers have quarterback issues. The 172 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Ravens just lose a lot of players every year in 173 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: free agency. I don't think it's crazy to say that, 174 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: is this a twelve thirteen win team if Baker just manages, 175 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't kind of try to play out 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: over a skis because the talent is there. If they 177 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: have immense talent at basically every position. I mean the 178 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Raiders they went and got a safety second pick, which 179 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: is you know, they got about six positions of need 180 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Some didn't love the Niners second pick, 181 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, the Bay Area, Well, is there a the 182 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Giants draft has been a little odd to me? Is 183 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: there a draft you don't love so far? Yesterday the 184 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: pick with Tennessee. We talked a little bit about them 185 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: taking the corner. Talking to someone today was like, he's 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: one We thought he was one back injury away from 187 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: career being over. And that's where I think the risk 188 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: is in drafts with the injury guys. I mean, we 189 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 1: just talked about, you know, the tackle from Stanford. Dickerson's 190 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: one of those guys, Like it's easy to justify taking 191 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: the injury red flags, and then they get hurt at 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: training camp and then they get hurt, you know, in 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: the game, and then you start going, God, there's a 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: reason that guy was there when he was. But you're 195 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: able to, you know, talk yourself into it because you go, 196 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the value is too good. I'm getting a discount, but 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the guy's on the discount rack for a reason. And 198 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: in football, more than any other sport, these injuries, especially 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: these back injuries, knee injuries, they usually don't go away. 200 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's easy to justify because the 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: film is outstanding for some of these guys, but you go, 202 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: our medical doctor is telling us, well, I don't know, 203 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and GM's usually they just they end up taking those 204 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: guys because you're just a sucker for the talent, and 205 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times you just get burnt. I mean 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Trent Balky, remember had a stretch where he just took 207 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: all these ACL guys just because oh everyone bounces back 208 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: from an ACL. Not really, I mean it's actually less 209 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: guys come back as consistently as good as they once 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: were than you think. But you would just assume it's 211 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. It's probably more like fifty. By the way, 212 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they have not addressed his needs. They took 213 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback and a running back first two picks. This 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: year they go cornerback first pick. Russell Wilson complained, and 215 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: they addressed it. They went and got Gerald Everon at 216 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: tight end, gave Jackson offensive line. They resigned Chris Carson 217 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: the running back and they're fullback. And then they get 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: Dwayne Eskridge, a very interesting receiver from Western Michigan who 219 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: t J. Hushman Zatta told me a week ago, and 220 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: he's good on this stuff people. So I will say this, 221 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, squeaky squeaky wheel gets the oil or whatever 222 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: they say. Russell complained. They have absolutely addressed his needs. 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: John to me, they totally you know, Aaron's complain it's 224 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: almost like they're working against him, they're over him. I 225 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: think Seattle's offense is better. New coordinator throw that in. 226 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I told you yesterday. I really think they get nitpicked 227 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: because they've been so good. But they have been consistently 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: aggressive since he's got there, something that they haven't all worked. 229 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: And then, like you said, this is a pretty good example, 230 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: they go get a scheme that is working everywhere with 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: the Rams, it's going to work well with him. They 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: bring back Carson, they add player Gabe Jackson's a good 233 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: immediate starter. Yes, an immediate starter, so they are. But 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I also think Pete and gets back to what you 235 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: always say about the organization. There's no owner, there's a 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: There is a hierarchy in every other organization behind beside 237 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: green Bay, so it flows normally right that the hierarchy 238 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: of power. And Pete's no dummy, Right, Pete played on 239 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: teams without a quarterback. He understands what he has, the 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay thing. What has changed over the last twenty 241 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: four hours. What are they really going to do? Like 242 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: to me, if he's adamant that he's not coming back, 243 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: this is where I get to yesterday. Now, the timing. 244 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: If I was Rogers. I would have given him three 245 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: or four days. So maybe help you know them, think 246 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: about it, make a real trade. You're always better trading 247 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: a player before a given draft because they get an 248 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: actual pick and then an actual player. No Packer fan 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: wants to go, well, the Raiders just gave us three 250 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: first rounders and Derek Carr, Well, we don't have Aaron 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers anymore, and we don't have any of those picks 252 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: till the future. Right, So I think they're in a 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: tough spot because under no circumstance can you trade him 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: enroll with Jordan Love. Because if Jordan Love is bad, 255 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: and we saw last year he couldn't win the backup job. 256 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: Those guys will, I mean their careers would be over 257 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: in two or three years, right, I mean Goodikins would 258 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: never be a GM again, and obviously the four's career 259 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: would be done. So I think the risk of if 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna replace Aaron Rodgers, you either have to do 261 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: it with a guy like Derek Carr who could at 262 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: least play and your team would could compete to go 263 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Or yesterday when the Niners like, here's 264 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: pick three, you guys want Trey Lance they could. They 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: had that opportunity, and they said no. Now I think 266 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: they're kind of like, what's Denver gonna offer them? They 267 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback to trade them. I think they're 268 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: in a tough spot. And Rogers put him in. Did 269 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: it on purpose? Right? Well? I talked to Thomas Dimitrov today. 270 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: This will air Saturday morning because we're watching rounds two 271 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: and three. He said he would talk to Aaron, he 272 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: would call today. He's communicative, he said, I would address 273 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: it immediately. But you know, I go back to something 274 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday. He felt humiliated a year ago. 275 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: But the Packers, he's gonna humiliate them. But I think 276 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting. First round they make a reach in a corner. 277 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: It's almost like now it's personal, Like it's personal. Now 278 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: you call us out, we call you out. You know again, 279 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Seattle at least sometimes you know, Kevin Durant's a little needy, 280 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: Errands a little prickly. From time to time, you have 281 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: to massage the top player in your organization a little. 282 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: So the last if you if you take a look 283 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: at their last three top picks, it's a quarterback, a 284 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: running back, a position they had two very good backs 285 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: in a corner. Like at some point I kind of 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: get Errand's pissed off. I get this frustration. I really 287 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: do well, I gotta move for you. Do you know 288 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: what I'd do by the end of the weekend, I'd 289 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: have Julio Jones on my team and give him my 290 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: second round pick for next year or whatever. You know, 291 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: how about do something like that. You would agree that's 292 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: something Seattle would do. You know, if they were in 293 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: a position where the guy was going to leave, they've 294 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: they've historically done that, traded high picks for established players. 295 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay never does that, and they be like, oh, 296 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: he makes too much money, the twenty one million dollars, right, 297 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: they would They would find a way to just we 298 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: can't get Julio. Just go get Julio Jones. They want 299 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: to unload them, find a way, make a little cap room, 300 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: get them on your team, and go Aaron. Now you 301 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: got Julio, Now you got Davante. We brought back Aaron Jones. 302 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Let's just let's have a year and just try to, 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, suck it up for a little while. Steelers 304 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: draft is interesting. Running back tight end first two picks. 305 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: This was the thirty first ranked according to PFF, I 306 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: believe thirty first ranked offensive line. So the top two 307 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: guards are gone, the top two tackles are gone. You 308 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: tell me you've been a scout. Can you upgrade your 309 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: old line third, fourth and fifth round. I mean, I 310 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: think you could hope to land a guard or center. 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you drafted fourth, fifth, and sixth round 312 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: guards and centers every year, probably every other year, you're 313 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna find a starter. To me, the problem was, and 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: we all saw it as Ben looked old as the 315 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: season went on. Yeah, you know why, Colin. He is old. 316 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: He's old, he's weathered, and he hasn't taken care of 317 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: his body. No, and he just he's not exactly He's 318 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: not a grinder slash. He got the crap beat out 319 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: of him for many years and he played like Cam Newton, 320 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: running around shed and tackles, taking a lot for I 321 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: remember early in the decade he led the league in 322 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: sacks for a couple straight years. He just got sacked 323 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot. Remember, Bruce arians ended up getting fired because 324 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to run the ball more and they're throwing 325 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: the ball too much. Now their offense is pretty loaded. 326 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean skill wise, they have a lot of talent 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: around him, But if he's not good enough and he 328 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: can't move around, like I remember the end of December 329 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: and definitely the playoff game, he was a statue. He 330 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: looked like Eli Manning he could not move or Philip Rivers, 331 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and he used to give you He never ran like 332 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: a Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson, but he gave you mobility. 333 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: That mobility's gone. He's just he's a true pocket quarterback, 334 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: which was never in the peak of his powers when 335 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: he was a Pro Bowl. Yes, oh, so you're asking 336 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: him to play something away in which he never excelled 337 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: at and clearly is not as comfortable doing. And like 338 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: you said, the offensive lines on any good. So even 339 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: if you guys got flying down down the sideline, well, 340 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: if he has no time, I think it's gonna be 341 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: hard for them. I mean, their their culture, their talent, 342 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: their coach there, they'll be competitive, but I'd say they're 343 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: pretty clearly the third team in that hierarchy in that 344 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: division right now. Yeah, it's um now the Browns they 345 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: got to do it over and over, But I do 346 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: think Stefanski's pretty high level guy that Jim, like you said, 347 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: it's good dear people like Stefanski. They love him. I mean, 348 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: they think he is so sharp. They're a big fan. 349 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, he's like a less When I worked with 350 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles, his dad was the president of the Sixers 351 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: and Pete. The family was just well respected. I didn't 352 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: know that much about him till probably the last four 353 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: or five years. But I have a couple of buddies 354 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: that have known him for a while and they loved him. 355 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: Now I didn't. They didn't think necessarily he's gonna be 356 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: some starry head coach. But they're like, he's a good coach. 357 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: He's really smart, and clearly he just I think the 358 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: key with any young coach, in my experience, is just 359 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: being comfortable in your own skin. If you're an asshole, 360 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: being an asshole, if you're a nice guy like Matt 361 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: and Aggie he's an uplifter, being uplifter, be who you are, 362 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, little edgy, Sean McVay, more happy. Just just 363 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: be true to yourself and guys will respect it. And 364 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: I think he, you know, for an Ivy League guy, 365 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: that kind of took time. I think he's just very 366 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: comfortable in his own skin. And I think part of 367 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: that Colin is recently, we're so quick to like make 368 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: a guy a head coach. This guy was an assistant 369 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: coach for a long period of time. So you just 370 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: get comfortable in your own skin. You get to learn 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: your strengths, your weakness is Arthur Smith's a good example, 372 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: long time assistant coach, really get to develop your football philosophy. 373 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: You get to work for a lot of different head coaches. 374 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Now we love like the guy's been a coordinator for 375 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: a year, make up a head coach. It's like, well, 376 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna fail more often than not. Back in the day, 377 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh didn't become a head coach, so he was 378 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: like six, you know, fifty five years old, forty eight. 379 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: You know. Now it's like every guy in the thirties 380 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: they gotta be a head coach. That's not the way 381 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: the world works, no wonder a lot of these guys fail. Well, 382 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: it's really interest. So the Packers could have gone yesterday 383 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: for an edge rusher, Joe tryon, Greg Russo from Miami. 384 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: They didn't. They went and got a corner. So the 385 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Bills and Tampa Bay got edge rushers. So in the 386 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: second round, you're like, well, Green Bay go get an 387 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: edge rusher or like another receiver. And so the first 388 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: picks a corner, second best corner on Georgia, and then 389 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: their second picks a center from Ohio State where they 390 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: just let their Pro Bowl center go. So again, if 391 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm Aaron Rodgers and I'm looking at that, You're not 392 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: elevating me. Will be worse at center. You took a 393 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: reach at corner. Again, I just look at the Green 394 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: Bay situation as not fixable. I think at some point, 395 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can trade You know, if 396 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: you trade him, is it after June first, you can 397 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: split the cap up. Yes, you save seventeen million dollars. 398 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: I read. Let's be honest to me, The Raiders make 399 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: the most sense because they have a quarterback to give them. 400 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: They could be they could be competitive with Okay, and 401 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: Van and Davantae Adams and Derek are good friends and 402 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: played together in college, so they're pour there immediately. Okay, 403 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: So okay, that's interesting. So we get Derek Carr. What 404 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: else do we get for that? Well, I think you 405 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: just go, well, Derek's worth the first round pick, because 406 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: if we just would have put Derek on the market 407 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: in March the Bears would have given us pick twenty. 408 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: The Washington football team would have given us there. You 409 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: gotta get something else. You gotta get something else. Yeah, 410 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: to me, Derek Carr in two first rounders, I mean 411 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: that's essentially three, but one of them as a quarterback 412 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: is that. Let's be honest, the Raiders can't get the 413 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: first round picks right anyway. Give them away. No. I mean, 414 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: let's face it, everyone's laughing at their first round pick 415 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: this year. I mean it's kind of universally people think 416 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: they screwed that one up. One thing I think the 417 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: problem with the Raiders is and it's I mean, it's 418 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: it Gruden run operation. It's not hard to trade up. 419 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: If you have picked ten and I'm at a teen 420 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: or fifteen, I can offer you get to a number 421 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: where you're always going to trade back. Anyone can trade up. 422 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: It's harder to trade back. That takes some wheeling and dealon. 423 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: That takes some foresight. That takes coming into the draft 424 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: knowing that you might want to trade back. The Raiders 425 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: are always just content with not understanding the value and 426 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: just be like, oh, well take them here. Well, you 427 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: could have got that guy twenty picks later. So even 428 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: if you could trade back ten spots and take the 429 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: same guy, you can acquire an extra pick. They never 430 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: do that because Gruden's just like, oh, get my guy. 431 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Well that's the there's two separate parts of the draft. 432 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: There's obviously acquiring the players, but there's what you pay 433 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: for the players. It's it's a marketplace, and you want 434 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: to pay the right price for every guy, and that's 435 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: they really struggle with that. They really don't. I don't 436 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: know if it's Gruden, if it's Mayock, it's just it's 437 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: it's been bizarre for a couple of years now. And 438 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: they do have some talent on their roster. I mean 439 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: they have give grud credit. He's made car much more functional. 440 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean they have stuff there. But they're drafting is 441 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: just little head scratching because they can't, like yesterday, Howie 442 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: wants Davante Smith immediately does the deal with Jerry skips 443 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the Giants like people can wheel and deal. They just 444 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: they always get stuck. It's like they never whether they 445 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: don't communicate well with other teams, whether they stay in 446 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: their bubble. I can't quite explain it, but it's pretty 447 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: clear that they have issues with moving around, all right, folks, 448 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Chad Millman's around the corner, John Middlecoff, we just give 449 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: you a taste thirty minutes. That's it, these little instant 450 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: reaction things. The second that we're into the third round. Now, John, 451 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: it's great seeing you. Always appreciate it. Buddy good inside 452 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: a Zula's have a great weekend. Con you too, all right, 453 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: football fans, the twenty twenty one Draft. Around the Corner 454 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: fan Duel is hosting something cool, a free twenty thousand 455 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: dollars mock draft contest. Put on your GM hat. 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Just download the Fan 464 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: Dual Fantasy app, click on the free to play button, 465 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: then locking your picks for the twenty twenty one draft. 466 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Follow the action live on Draft night. Easy peasy age 467 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: and eligibility restrictions apply. All right, Chad Milman, my buddy 468 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: Action Network. It is Friday night. The draft is going 469 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: on as we speak, almost wrapping up second and third rounds. Okay, 470 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: let me start with this, Chad. There's been criticism about 471 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: New England that they don't do their homework necessarily. This 472 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: is what I've been told by people through the years. 473 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: And the more Super Bowls Belichick one, the more power 474 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: he has in the organization. And about mid to late 475 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: January he tells the scouts, I've got it from here, 476 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: and Bill's not thought of his lazy. But I don't 477 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: think they always do their homework with their draft. Here's 478 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: a prime example. He relies on people he knows, herm Edwards. 479 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: He went and got Nikil Harry and story broke. Albert 480 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Brewer broke the story that the scouting department did not 481 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: want Nikil Harry and Belichick blew him off. So they 482 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: go out and draft Christian Barmore, defensive tackle Alabama. I 483 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: have two different people who I trust who took him 484 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: off their board because of some personal stuff they'd heard. 485 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, even Nick Saban had to defend him during 486 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the year. That's classic he was a red flag guy 487 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: for just two of the teams, two for two. I 488 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: talk to so your thoughts, I mean, I just I 489 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: think Belichick he has struggled in this draft, and Christian 490 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: Barmore Nick Saban had to defend him multiple times this year, 491 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: like I don't like the move. Well, look I can't. 492 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: I can't speak to anything about Barmore, But I do 493 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that there is always, in very specific instances, 494 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: year after year, Belichick trusting Nick Saban, right, who's the 495 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: quarterback that he wanted? Who's the quarterback that he drafted? 496 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: And now last night he's being praised for draft for 497 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: staying in one spot and getting Mac Jones, And I, 498 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: like I have been suspect of Mac Jones and Zach 499 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: Wilson this entire process because I do not understand how 500 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Trey Lance falls into this too. I do 501 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: not understand how quarterbacks who perform for one year with 502 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: in Mac Jones case, obviously they are heading shoulders more 503 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: talented than everybody, but Zack Wilson, who is playing against 504 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: a supreme offensive line against terrible competition. He does it 505 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: for one year in a few games, and all of 506 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's a world beater, And it makes no 507 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: sense to me. Why any quarterback. And I'm sort of 508 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: veered from your question, but to me, it speaks to 509 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: a larger issue of the lack of science in scouting 510 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: and these coaches, these scouts who fall in love with 511 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: what they believe to be talent. It's like that great 512 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: scene in Moneyball where they're all sitting around a table. 513 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: The ball sounds great. When he comes off his bat, 514 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: his girlfriend's ugly. He's got no confidence. Like they're basing 515 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: these decisions on things like just look at the film. 516 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: Look at the film. Justin Fields played against top level 517 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: competition for multiple years and was consistent throughout his career. 518 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: Trevor l same thing. Why are you not drafting the 519 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: guys who prove it on the field. Don't give me 520 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't weigh enough. Don't give me his hips aren't good. 521 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: It's like they try to outguess themselves so they can 522 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: be the smartest guy in the room and make the 523 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: pick that is going to make them seem like a genius, 524 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: instead of grabbing the gold that is right in front 525 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: of them. Well, i mean, Jordan Love had one great ear. 526 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: He gets drafted. Zach Wilson had one great ear and 527 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: gets drafted. I mean, if you go to high school. 528 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: In college, Justin Fields was dominant for like a five 529 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: year stretch. So I agree with you. So okay, trail 530 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Ance and I think it was the right pick. Goes 531 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: to the San Francisco forty nine ers. You have a story. 532 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm told here's a great story. So yesterday, late morning, 533 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: it's Thursday, before the draft, I'm getting ready to record 534 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: my podcast, The Favorites, which you can listen to on 535 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: the Volume network. And my co host on the podcast 536 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: is a guy named Simon Hunter, who is a professional 537 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: better This is what he does for a living. The 538 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: podcast for him is like, you know, a fun little 539 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: thing and he gets to tell stories and talk about 540 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: games and sound like a genius because he wins us money. 541 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: So before we start recording the podcast, he says to 542 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: me and our producer Matt Mitchell, you guys, this is 543 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: the bad phone, and the bad phone is his phone 544 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: where his contacts, his connections, his outs are calling him. 545 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: And he says to me, if the bad phone rings, 546 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to jump off because this is the 547 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: one of the three busiest days of my offseason, and 548 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: he's got six figures in bets that mac Jones will 549 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: not be the third player taken, that he is not 550 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: going to go too. And he had been fading mac 551 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: Jones for weeks and weeks and weeks. He had been 552 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: piling on. Every time like the numbers got higher about 553 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: him not being number three, he kept going in, kept 554 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: going in. He's like, I'm gonna have to jump off 555 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: because it will be information that I need to be 556 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: able to act on quickly and so and he's like, 557 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm sick to my stomach. I'm so loaded on mac 558 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Jones not going number three. And at this point before, 559 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: like heading into yesterday morning, everybody was believing mac Jones 560 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: was going number three. Midway through the podcast. Now, right 561 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: after the podcast is over, we stopped recording. He's like, 562 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you guys, I gotta jump off. I 563 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: got news from one of my sources that the Niners 564 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: are definitely off of mac Jones, off of mac Jones. 565 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Entree Lance, I have to get back to the casino 566 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: right now and get the rest of my money down. 567 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: He races to the casino. I immediately bet on mac 568 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Jones to not be the number three pick. We do 569 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: a story about it later that night. Mac Jones not 570 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: the number three pick. Simon is swimming in it. Today, 571 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good about it. But it was like 572 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: just a great inside betting story about the mechanics of 573 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: which you and I we know nothing about. We think 574 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: we know. All we can do is connect to the 575 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: people that know, and we have better access to making 576 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: those connections. But these guys are inside a different game. Listen, Um, yeah, 577 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean I have sources, but my sources don't give me. 578 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to get in trouble, so 579 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: they don't give me any gems. And if they do, 580 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: it's stuff that I talk about after the draft. Right. 581 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: You know we all have people. Listen, we all have 582 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: people we protect. You give me good stuff, you know, 583 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I can. I can accumulate more friends with you know, 584 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: honey than vinegar. So you know you got to take 585 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: care of some of your sources. But that's a great story. Yeah. 586 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: By the way, you're a you're a Bears fan, you're 587 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: a Chicago guy. Yes, Ryan Pace drives me nuts. They've 588 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: been hyper aggressive in this draft. I'll say this, we 589 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: don't know Aaron Rodgers may play this year. He's not 590 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: going to be their long term. When you humiliate your 591 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: franchise publicly, it's over. Get a lawyer. It may not 592 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: be over now, but it's over. Justin Fields could be 593 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: have the best defense and be the best quarterback in 594 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: this division in twelve months, could he not? I love, love, 595 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: love this pick. He has been a guy who, in 596 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: my very novice study of this process I have loved 597 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: and I said it this in the beginning. I have 598 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: always believed and the studies bear this out. The more 599 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: you play in college, the better you are going to 600 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: be in the NFL if you are at the level 601 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: where you have a skill set that translates to the NFL. 602 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: Clearly Justin Fields does. It makes no sense to me 603 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: that he was not the second player taken in this draft, 604 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: given what he had shown in the field, given how 605 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: he had matched Trevor throw for throw throughout his entire career, 606 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: not just against in that game against Clemson, but since 607 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: they were in high school. So it just made no 608 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: sense to me that there was a separation of ten 609 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: players and multiple quarterbacks. That said. I was so excited. 610 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: My kid and I were screaming, were yelling. The dog 611 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: is barking, you would have thought we had won the 612 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: actual Super Bowl. I don't mind the Bears giving up 613 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: the extra first round pick next year. And if i'm Pace, 614 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why wouldn't I? If this guy doesn't work out, 615 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm gone, it's someone else's problem. And so what really 616 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: becomes the question is do the Bears put Pace into 617 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean to put Fields into the offense right away 618 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: and get him playing? Will that be detrimental to his development? 619 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: How do you manage this? Because you've got two guys 620 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: in Nage and Pace who are playing on one year deals, 621 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: and so it's really going to be interesting. Do they 622 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: manage to play right away, to get Fields to play 623 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: right away? Do they worry about how that's going to 624 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: hamper his development? Are they worried about their jobs performance 625 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: right away? All that kind of stuff. So there, I 626 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: don't think NFL people are rooting for urban Meyer. There's 627 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, there's a lot of pettiness. 628 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is having a very good draft, so he 629 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: goes and gets Travis at In and everybody kind of 630 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: freaks out. But this whole Bell cow running back thing 631 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: is bullshit. Christian McCaffrey's falling apart and Zeke Every year 632 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: his yards per carry go down. You need two running backs. 633 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: This is not like, this is not college football. You 634 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: need to There's a reason Nick Saban recruits three four 635 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: to five star running backs a year. It's like hard. 636 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: So he gets Travis at n they have two good 637 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: backs he gets. Then he goes and gets Tyson Campbell, 638 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the better corner for Georgia the Packers drafted late in 639 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: the first round, the second best corner for Georgia. He 640 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: gets the best corner. Then he goes out and gets 641 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: and it's a great story. He gets Walker Little, a 642 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: left tackle for Stanford. So Walker Little had an injury 643 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: early and opted out, so people haven't seen much of him. 644 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: So two years ago I talked to David Shaw. I 645 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: think it was off the air, it may have been on. 646 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: It was off the air, and I said, who's your 647 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: favorite recruit, And he goes, we got this kid, Walker 648 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: a Little from Houston. He's going to start as a 649 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: freshman at Stanford at left tackle. And he's like yeah, yeah, 650 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: he goes, this guy is a first round guy. He 651 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: got injured and then he opted out. It maybe the 652 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: steal of the draft, but he told me at the 653 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: time when he saw him, he goes he's a top ten, 654 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: top five NFL pick. He told me this like two 655 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: years ago. He's like, his kid is so good. So 656 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's rooting for Urban Meyer. But I'm 657 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: gonna throw this at you. Tennessee looks worse. It's a 658 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: weird division. Houston's a disaster. We think Carson Wentz works. 659 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: If I told you, Jacksonville ends up going like a 660 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: nine and eight, ten and six, Chad, this is a weird, 661 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: funky division. Fourth becomes first regularly. Tennessee is not as good. Okay, 662 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: Houston maybe a bottom three team in the league. How 663 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: good are the Colts? They're good. I think Jacksonville's gonna 664 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: surprise people. Oh my god, have you already started cocktail hour? 665 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: That is I had what it's small? It's tiny that 666 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: it's like you are dipping into the Solo Cup so 667 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: hard right now? That is insane. But Trevor Lawrence mel 668 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: Kiper last night, I love mel Kiper. He is a 669 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: gem of a guy. Pointed out that the four quarterbacks 670 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: he has rated is like generational talents. It was John Elway, 671 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: it was Peyton Manning, it was Andrew Luck, and it 672 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: was Trevor Lawrence. Brilliant Peyton manning through twenty eight interceptions 673 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: his rookie year and was terrible. Okay, Andrew Luck got 674 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: beat up so bad his rookie year that it lingered 675 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: for the rest of his career and shortened his career. 676 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is not going to be a winning quarterback 677 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. The Colts are likely to be 678 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: the best team in that division. Frank Reich is probably 679 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: the best coach in that division. I think the Titan 680 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: that his Tennessee Titans improved a little bit, but I 681 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: don't know that they improved enough in the defensive backfield 682 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: to really take over what the Colts can do if 683 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz can be seventy five percent of what he 684 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: was with Frank Wright and don't let's let's not be 685 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: clouded like Jacksonville is rebuilding their defense. They got to 686 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: start over from scratch, all new people. Urban Meyer amazing coach, 687 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: but he is not a miracle worker. At the NFL level, 688 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: where talent is so much closer together. He is not 689 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to dominate as he did in 690 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: college football. Give him two years I am not seeing 691 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: them as a winning team. Okay, what's their record, Milman, 692 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: Let's see, it's a seventeen game season. I don't I 693 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: don't think they they have more than five wins. Oh, 694 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: come on, Stefanski. Stefanski never been more than a coordinator. 695 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: Look what he did in one year. Stefanski's special. Everyone 696 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: knows that. Everyone special. What very very special talent. Come on, 697 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: he's the gene. He's a boy wonder. He went to 698 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: a nice I'm watching this thing because we're taping this 699 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: thing as the second round is Oh my god. First 700 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: of all, the Miami Dolphins are having a hell of 701 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: a draft. See that is a team that I holly. 702 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, if you're just they got 703 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, they got four starters in this draft. 704 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, Jaalen Phillips. By the way, I watched a 705 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of Oregon football because I used to work there. 706 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: Javon Holland at safety is a stud. And then they 707 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: get Notre Dame's left tackle Liam Eichenberg, So now they 708 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: have a left Austin Jackson last year. So far, to me, 709 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are winning the draft. Four clean, no red 710 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: flag players, four starters, right, I really like what they're doing. 711 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you. And let me just say one 712 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: more thing about the Jacks. Their season win total right 713 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: now is six and a half. I would take the 714 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: under time out, well said again, the Jags season win 715 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 1: total is six and a half, and I would take 716 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm taking the over all. Right, that's my bet of 717 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: the day. Well, you and I got a little wager going. 718 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: Is this your bank account? Because I feel bad stealing 719 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: money from you, I'm okay with it as long as 720 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: it's a little You know, you got a lot more 721 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: money than you could take a little bit, a little taste. 722 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: Six and a half. It's going to be the Jags under. 723 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: I promise you this is seven. I'm oh my god, 724 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: I feel honestly, I feel bad to be your friend. 725 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: Seven and ten. You will not take that. No, the 726 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Jagson divisions, listen, their defense is dreadful. It doesn't matter 727 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: how good Trevor Lawrence is. And I'm not going to 728 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: get that excited that they drafted a safety who might 729 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: make their defense better, A rookie safety who needs to 730 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: do what is he going to a quarterback the back 731 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: of the field. Is he going to cover everybody. He's 732 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: going to be confused for eight weeks of the season. 733 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: He's not a miracle worker Urban Meyer. He's just getting 734 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: players that we think we might like. That's it. So, 735 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: by the way, So Tom Talsco is my buddy. He's 736 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: very patient in the draft. So he gets Rashawn Slater 737 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: to fall to him. They wanted a left tackle in 738 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: a corner, and now in the second round he gets 739 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: a Sante Samuel Junior to fall to him, arguably the 740 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: third best corner. They were just patient. They had two 741 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: Nique that's a good roster. By the way, that is 742 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: a good roster. They got the two players they wanted. 743 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: They liked JC Horn a lot. Once they couldn't get him. 744 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: Tom was like, I'm gonna be patient. They got the 745 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: second best tackle and probably the third best corner, maybe fourth. 746 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes just being patient in life pays off. I will 747 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: tell you I am all in on the Los Angeles Chargers. 748 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: I have bought Super Bowl futures on the Chargers. I 749 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: like them over nine wins for the year. I felt 750 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: like Herbert justin. Herbert last year really just did not 751 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't rookie great. He was thoughtful, great, and there's 752 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: a big difference. There's a big difference between a rookie 753 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: getting on a hot streak and a rookie who looks 754 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: like he understands the playbook and is making smart throws 755 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: and is taking the chances when he needs to and 756 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: is getting the ball into tight windows and making NFL throws. 757 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: I thought that's what he did. He suffered greatly from horrible, 758 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: horrible decision making and the talent that he has around him. 759 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: He's got a level talent. And so also, don't forget 760 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: thrown James coming back. You want to talk about a 761 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: safety who can make a difference and get a team 762 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: over the top, get a team over their season. Win 763 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: tootle the Chargers at nine. Give me that, don't give 764 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: me the Jagger boy, Well, why can't I have both? 765 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Jags over and the Chargers over? Fine, 766 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: why don't you take everybody over? Why don't you square 767 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: this whole thing out? No? No, that's a sucker. Bet. 768 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: I am not a soccer exactly, sound like one getting 769 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: out excited about urban Meyer drafted a safety in the 770 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: second round. That's the game changer. Come on, Milman, it's Friday. 771 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm on. It's a small solo cup. There's a tiny cup. 772 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: It's like three quarters size. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Okay, let's 773 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: get out of here. Action Network. I'm gonna take the 774 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: Chargers over, is my bet? Okay, not the Jagat's too 775 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: stick with sleep on it. No no, no no, no no, 776 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: there's no sleep. There's no sobering up on this bet. 777 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: You came hard on the JAG's over. You're sad because 778 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: you're taking my money. I'm telling you right now. Okay, okay, 779 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: with you have some courage. Okay, JAG's over, Charger's over. 780 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: One of those is a good pick. All right, you're 781 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: talking to you, abody, Action Network. Chad Milman Man all right, 782 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: middle cough. The former Scouts great sol Is chet Millman 783 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: Alwa was big laughs. Thanks for listening at the Volume Sports, 784 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram, rate review, subscribe, please follow us. We're 785 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: having so much fun, really nice NFL draft last couple 786 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: of days. Our staff at the Volumes kicking ass. I 787 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: love it. I'll see you Monday on TV. I'll see 788 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: you Monday on radio, and I'll have a podcast Monday 789 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: morning on the entire NFL Draft summing up the weekend. 790 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: See you then the volume