1 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast. 2 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: This is episode three one seven. I'm your host for everyone, 3 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday evening here in early January, 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: our first show of twenty twenty six on this podcast feed. 5 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: And I'm joyed today as I usually am. By Scott Coleman. Scott, 6 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: it's been pretty quiet. We made it through the holidays. 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: It's a new year. 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: How are you, hello, Brad? Happy new year to you 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: and everybody out there. And hey, twenty twenty five was 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: not the Braves year? Is that fair to say? To 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: put it as lightly as humanly possible? But thank god, 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: a new calendar year. Let's hope better days on the 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: horizon for the Braves. And it has been painfully slow 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: across Major League Baseball the last couple of weeks. All 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: of those executives deserve time off with their families and 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: friends and to unplug a little bit. But as we're 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: going to talk about a little on the show tonight, 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: there are a ton of free agents out there. It 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: seems like the trade market might be getting ready to 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: heat up as well, so hopefully over the next month 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: or so, as spring training gets closer and closer. We 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: have a lot of action for the Braves and across 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: the rest of the league. 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: For sure. We are in that zone now where it 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: starts to pick up again. At least usually there are 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: sometimes a move over the holiday, like this year there 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: was the Tatsuyumi flurry of activity because there was a 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: deadline there. That's why. That's what spurred that. We did 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: a show where Shawn Steven talks about him and I 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: think there was some real smoke about the Braves. And then, 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: by the way, he got this very interesting contract that 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: we won't analyze in full, but a three year deal 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: with the Astros that has an opt out after both 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: of the first two seasons. I don't know about you, Scott. 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: My first thought was that Oxen Thapas would rather jump 36 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: up a building than hand out that contract. 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: So very very friendly to am. I good on him, 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: and good on Scott Boris forgetting the deal. But when 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: it was reported that Emai was going to the Astros, 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: I think about thirty seconds later and Astros beat reporter 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: chimed in and said it's a three year deal with 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: multiple opt outs, and I said, well, yep, that's why. 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: I just there's probably a point in time for Alex 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Andthopolis to break his no player opt out rule. I 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: don't know if Tatsu yet am I is that player, 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: but eventually we might get to that point. 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think it has to be a hard 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: and fast rule, but what I would not want to 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: do is pay a posting fee and then have an 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: opt after a year one and then again after year two, 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: like to the point where if he's decent at all, 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: he's going to opt out. And you know there are 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: worse things than that if you get once he's not 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: a guy. But anyway, not a ASTROS podcast. You alluded 55 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: this though we are six weeks away from pictures and 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Catchers reporting. We've made fun of that plenty in the 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: past about like that's really fun for about one day 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: when guys report, but it is a milestone. We're getting 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: closer to that. And this is one of your favorite topics. 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: But essentially half of the top free agents available are 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: still available, which is kind of funny a Corey, and 62 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you pulled the U. I've thought about reading the numbers 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: that you wrote down on our document here. It'd be 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: very bad radio, so I won't do that. I did 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: add them up so our friends a LB Trade Rivers 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: had the top fifty. We talked about a lot already 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: this winter. Basically six of the top ten guys on 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: that list are still available as of January fourth, nine 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: of the top twenty five and twenty one of the 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: top fifty. That's mind blowing to me, but it's also 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: not It's kind of on brand for baseball. With that said, 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: we're not getting any closer to being able to close 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: the door on free agency and free agency talk and speculation, 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it might seem repetitive to you the listener. 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: It does to me as well, to be honest with you, 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: but that's the life that we've chose in covering baseball 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: and the market as it is. So, Scott, where's your 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: head at with free agency? Knowing that the Braves still 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: potentially have some work that they could do, and that 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I know we have talked at nauseum as a foursome 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: about the pitching market, in particular. 82 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: The starting pitching market is I mean, everybody has their 83 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: eyes on it, and it's probably been the slowest market 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: across the board in Major League Baseball. And Dylan Sees 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: signed early, but other than Sees, I think probably four 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: of the top six arms on the market are still available, 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: whether that be Framber Valdez, Ranger Suarez, Zach Gallon, Chris Bassett. 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: All of those are like established, good to great starting pitchers, 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: and the Braves presumably have money if the right deal 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: comes along, so we'll see if that finally starts to 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: shake out in the next couple of weeks. There's also 92 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: a couple of really good hitters out there still, Kyle Tucker, 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Boba Schett. I don't necessarily think those are real options 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: for Atlanta, but I mean someone's got to sign him. 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: And sometimes if the team has their eyes on one 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: of the big name hitters and they don't get them, well, 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: then they shift their money elsewhere and go, Okay, let's 98 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: go get a pitcher or two for what we were 99 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: going to maybe pay Kyle Tucker or Bobaschett. So it's 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating over the next couple of weeks to 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: see just where these big names land. There's also this 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 2: pending lockout and a new CBA that's twelve months away 103 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: for baseball that seemingly has played a factor into players 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: who have signed. It's been a really interesting offseason so far. 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: And maybe the Braves are going to be able to 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: swoop in and get a player for a little bit 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: less than what the predictions two months ago suggested. These 108 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: players are going to get. 109 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, once you get this late in the off season, 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: those predictions become usually, I would say a little bit 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: less accurate because there's just a lot more volatility in 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: the market. We've seen the Japanese. The Japanese guys have 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: gone way underneath their projection. Those are more complicated. Those 114 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: are always difficult to project because we don't have the 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: information on those guys, but they've all come in way 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: under Emi included despite the odd kind of I the 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: way that deal is built with the opt outs. But 118 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: we got a question that I actually want to ask you, 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: and it's not the most real life question, but it 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: could be a real life application. So that's where we'll 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of go with this. But the question came in 122 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: from Welch, who says, if the only goal was to 123 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: make the Braves better in twenty twenty six and money 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: didn't matter, keep that in mind only this season mighty 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's important by laws here, which remaining free agent? 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: Would you want the Braves to add and My first 127 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: thought was everyone's going to sue based on what we 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: have always said about needing more pitching, that you picked 129 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: the best pitcher and add that picture spoiler. That's not 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: my answer. Do you want me to go first? You 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: want to go first? 132 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, go first, because you have an interesting answer. Your 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: answer is not what I immediately thought of, So yes, 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: please take the floor. 135 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: So I will give a little bit of a hat 136 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: to Grant McCaulay front of the pod also at Capitol Avenue. 137 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Great I think retired Braves blogger, but very smart Braves person, 138 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: and they're having this chat online that inspired to some degree. 139 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: But my answer is actually Kyle Tucker. I was not 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be terribly controversial to add Kyle Tucker. He's going 141 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: to be at a sky high price, which is why 142 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: this is a priceless endeavor. But my stance is very clear. 143 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: I think you said the same thing, they need starting pitching. 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I stand by that. I'm not avoiding that they need 145 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: more pitching. I believe that. With that said, if you're 146 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Tucker is enough better than any pitcher 147 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: that is available, and position players are safer. They also 148 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: have generally more impact on a War basis or however 149 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: you want to put that. They're in the lineup every day. 150 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: And looking back at this is where the conetation that 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Grant was having with Captitol Avenue on Twitter inspired this. 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Looking back at the Braves from a couple of years ago. Now, 153 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three wasn't outlier season. I'm not saying it wasn't, 154 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: but the Braves had arguably the best offense of all time. 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: We're saying, certainly top five of all time offense. They 156 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: won one hundred and four games. We all know the story. 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: I actually had, not like forgotten, but kind of memory 158 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: hold how average that pitching staff was like the Braves. 159 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: I looked it up. Had the number eleven pitching staff 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: by Fangrafts war that season, which isn't bad, but it's 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: not great. You know, it's above average. They were twelve 162 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: in starting pitching fangrafts four. That's easy. And they won 163 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and four games because scoring run Scott usually 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: is a very very good thing when short taking a 165 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: baseball team. And that's I know it's very obvious, but 166 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: I look back like three or four or five years. 167 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: I won't give you all the data right now, it's 168 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: become a long answer. But if you're a top five, 169 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: top six offense in baseball, it's almost always ninety wins 170 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: in a playoff spot. Like even if if you if 171 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: you have bad pitching, like you have to have very 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: very bad pitching to have a top five offense and 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. And really it's about getting in 174 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: the dance when it comes to all that. So that's 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the short version of the answer. I would maybe given 176 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: a thirty minute answer later on, but Kyle talk. The 177 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: short answer is that I think that the Braves neat pitching. 178 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: If you could add Kyle Tucker without penalty in this 179 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: fantasy scenario, yeah, I understand they if you start doing 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the math, like, okay, they have kind of an extra 181 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: player now, but that isn't a problem. Having too many 182 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: good hitters is not a problem. Katucker is better than 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: all of the players in the Braves outfield sands Ronald Kunya, 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and so if you have to have less played appearances 185 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: for Michael Streemsky or Jerson Profar, sorry, guys, Katucker's better 186 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: than you. That's what it comes down to do for me. 187 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: So you can certainly I will throw it to you. 188 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Maybe your answer is one of the pictures. It's not 189 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: a crazy answer to say one of the pictures because 190 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: they need that. But I think I really would go 191 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: down with Katucker. If you took Tucker off the market, 192 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: then it becomes interesting because it's like, would I'd rather 193 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: have Cody Bellinger or Bob Shitt versus a pitcher that's 194 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot closer to me, But I actually a pretty 195 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: firmly I would take Kyle Tucker even with everything going 196 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: on with the Braves. 197 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: I had a really good, in depth discussion with Steven 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: about a week ago on the show about this Brave's 199 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: lineup and is it good enough as we expect it's 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: going to be constructed moving forward? And sure they could 201 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: totally shock us and signed Tucker or Bashett or Bellinger 202 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: or trade for somebody, but for my money, and I 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: think your money too. Objectively, we feel like this lineup 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: is pretty much set other than maybe one more addition 205 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: to the bench. And it's an interesting thought exercise. Is 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: this lineup good enough? And are they going to score 207 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: enough runs consistently to support what we feel like could 208 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: be a pretty good pitching staff. But we know the 209 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: last two years on offense have been nowhere near what 210 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: we were hoping for. That's an interesting conversation. To answer 211 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: the question, I immediately thought of Framber Valdez. I feel 212 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: like he is the best pitcher on the market now. 213 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: If you're only talking one year, I think the one 214 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: year difference between Framber and Ranger Suarez. 215 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: Is pretty small. 216 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: And if you want to take Ranger Swarez over Framber 217 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Valdez for twenty twenty six, I wouldn't fight you on it. 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: But if I needed the Braves to add an impact 219 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: high end could take the ball in game one of 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: a playoff series. I'm taking Framber Valdez all day long, 221 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: and we'll see if the Braves have had discussions with 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: Framber and maybe ultimately try to sign him. But it's 223 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: a really interesting question because I think you can make 224 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: a strong case even though kind of one through nine 225 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: the lineup is pretty set on paper, there are some 226 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: very real questions about this group after you get past 227 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: maybe the top five. 228 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: In the order, right and without making an this in 229 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: an hour conversation, there's also some freedom. While I strongly 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: believe the Braves need more pitching, they do have some 231 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: pitching already, which makes it easier to take the bat. 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: In my mind, like if the Braves had zero pitching, 233 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: if we were like, man, they're like twenty eighth right 234 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: now in projected rotation, then the pitching because the floor 235 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: is so low. You know, I looked at the depth 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: charts today on fangraund. I think the Brands are like 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: seventh or eighth and starting pitching projection war right now. 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, your manage may vary on that, but it's not. 239 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: They're not twenty eighth. Like they're in okay shape with 240 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: the pitching. They need more. But between that reality and again, 241 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: like I don't want to beat the dead horse, but 242 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: a good position player is just more valuable than a 243 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: good picture in a vacuum. Like that's just what it is. 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: They just they're they're on the field more, they have 245 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: more opportunities to impact things, and. 246 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: Over over one hundred and sixty two games, correct, I agree. 247 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: I think they'll in October give and give me the 248 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: impact starter over the bat. 249 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually it's a good way to I was 250 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: thinking more big picture, but yeah, you're right. Like one 251 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: of the ways to argue against me would be if 252 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: you really believe frame Ravaldez is like a dominant playoff 253 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: level guy. Then yeah, that that that might swing it 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: in your favor, especially if you project the brasement the playoffs, 255 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: which I think we probably do at this point. But 256 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good exercise and it is 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: more theoretical. Obviously, Collin Tucker's not gonna sound a one 258 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: year deal with the Braves for five dollars like we 259 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: would hope that he would. But I think it's fascinating 260 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: and oddly, while I like the Ustrimsky move more than 261 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: most people did, it would have been more interesting to 262 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: see the reaction if the Braves had like spent big 263 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: on a bat and people would have because people were 264 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: bothered anyway that they wouldn't got Yustrimsky in this role. 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, what if they had spent even more, 266 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: like if they wouldn't got Cody Bellinger instead of Michael Scrimsky, 267 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: what would the reaction have been. I would have liked it, 268 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: but fans wouldn't have. Maybe I don't know. It would 269 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: have been strange to. 270 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: Me offensively, other than Hassan Kim, who I think we 271 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: all agree it will be a significant improvement over Nick 272 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Allen at Shortstop. They are really putting some eggs in 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: the basket that Mike Yustremsky, at age thirty five, is 274 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: going to carry over what he has done against right 275 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: handed pitching for basically his entire career, and I think 276 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: he will. If he was thirty eight years old, I 277 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: might be mildly terrified. And I think there was nothing 278 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: in Yastroemsky's profile to make me think that this is 279 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: going to fall off a cliff tomorrow. But they are 280 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: really banking on Yastroemsky continuing to hit right handed pitching 281 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: because he's never really hit lefties. It's a calculated gamble, 282 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: but one I think we're going to be holding our 283 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: breath on. 284 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: For a little while. They are also putting a lot 285 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: of eggs in the basket of some positive regression from 286 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: internal guys, Austin Riley chief among them, but then also 287 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: Michael Harris and Izy Alby's. And we'll get to a 288 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: question actually about both Michael and Ozzy in just a 289 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: moment after I work more partners. Okay, Scott, the aforementioned 290 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: question is here from Stephen, not our Stephen, just a 291 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Stephen in the world. Hello Steven Tolbert, if you're listening, 292 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: not you do you have? The question is do you 293 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: have more confidence in Ozzy Alby's or Michael Harris bouncing 294 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: back next season? One of the ultimate questions, because I 295 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: do think that Riley just as a small sidebar. I 296 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: think Riley is more than either Harris or Ozzy personally 297 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: because of the money, because of all those things. But 298 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: putting where I would decide, I will give you the 299 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: first the first floor, and perhaps we'll go first take 300 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: style here. Maybe I'll maybe I'll just take the other 301 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: guy to see what you say thoughts. 302 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: So who am I more confident in bouncing back? Ozzy 303 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Alby's are Michael Harris? My first thought was Ozzy Alby's 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: and then I remembered he broke the hamdmate bone in 305 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: the same hand and wrist that he broke a year ago. 306 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Scott, that is so funny. I have to say, that 307 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: is exactly we didn't. We didn't listen. It's not on 308 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: our document we have. We have lots of notes back 309 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: and forth. We didn't say this. That's exactly what I thought, 310 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: like exactly, now keep going, we'll talk about it. 311 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, it's almost like we've been doing podcasts 312 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: for a decade at this point, it is almost like that. 313 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: So I will take Michael Harris because I am legitimately 314 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: concerned about yet another hand and wrist injury for Ozzy Alby's, 315 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: whose offensive game has been in decline, and in three 316 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: of the last four years, Ozzie has been a flat 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: out disappointment between performance and injuries. That being said, Michael 318 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Harris man alive. 319 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: He was. 320 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: I knew Michael Harris had struggled last season. He was 321 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: impossibly bad when you look back on his first half. 322 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: He hit two ten with a two thirty four on 323 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: base three seventeen slug and a forty seven WRC plus, 324 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: which is worse in baseball. Michael Harris brad, this guy 325 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: was Rookie of the Year three years ago and he 326 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: carried the worst WRC plus in the majors. Quick reminder, 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: one one hundred is league average and he was forty seven. 328 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: That's impossibly bad. Then he went nuclear from July twentieth 329 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: to August twentieth, turned into Barry Bonds a two fourteen 330 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: WRC plus and ops above eleven hundred. Michael Harris was 331 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: basically the best hitter in the game for a month, 332 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: but then he was bad again. Right after that, and 333 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: if Harris was able to keep it going, I think 334 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: I'd be even more optimistic. But he had a fifty 335 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: three WRC plus the last six weeks of the year. 336 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: He did have a pretty good last couple ten fourteen 337 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: games of the season, which I know he was talking 338 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: about frequently changing his stance in the box and where 339 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: his hands were placed. And I think that's why I'm 340 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: a little more optimistic, between both the health of Michael 341 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: Harris and his age and the fact that we have 342 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: seen him do this at a high level. But to 343 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: be blunt, until Michael Harris learns how to identify pitches better, 344 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: learns what pitches to swing at and not swing at. 345 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: He had the worst chase rate in the majors last year, 346 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: and it was nearly worse than three years before that. 347 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm not super confident in either of these guys fully 348 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: bouncing back, but because of the injury to all these 349 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: I will take Michael Harris has a better chance of 350 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: bouncing back. 351 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that it's interesting because 352 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: if the framing was just at the plate, I might 353 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: take Ozzie because I think he's baseline at the plate 354 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: is higher than Michael Harris's Harris is Harris. Harrison's higher 355 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: upside probably at the plate, but as He's downside is higher. 356 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: It's provided he's somewhat healthy, which I think he probably 357 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: will be. But you just laid it out. I mean, 358 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: Harris's downside the plate is really ugly. It really is, 359 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: like it is, I mean, not the first person to 360 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: me in comparison, but it is. It is. After the 361 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: league figured out jefferan core ugly, that is. That's the comparison. 362 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry to everybody involved. What's at school 363 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: with Jeff. I know Jeff. That is the comparison. It is, 364 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: and that's not a good comparison. If you're Michael Harris, 365 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: that's not where you want to be lumped in at 366 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: the plate. I've heard arguments, actually maybe this is a 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: different conversation for a different day that I'm with you 368 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: on the on the walks like, he's never gonna be 369 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: a high walk guy. That's just not gonna happen. He 370 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: needs to take more. But it's almost like maybe he 371 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: should be even more aggressive, because if you're not gonna walk, 372 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: maybe you just turn, like maybe maybe you go hobby bias, 373 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: like and you just hack and run into run, run 374 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: into a few, like just hit more home runs because 375 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: he has good power. I mean, Michael's got real power anyway. 376 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. But the reason why I would 377 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: lean Harris isn't the plate. It's the fact that he 378 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: plays center field, can run and plays defense. Like if 379 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: Michael Harris is even an ady w RC plus, which 380 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: is bad, to be clear, he's still a like starting 381 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: level player because he's not good at defense. It's in centerfield. 382 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: If Ozzie is the AWC plus he's not, he's not. 383 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: He's not a good player. That's that's what it comes 384 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: down to. So like some of the projection systems really 385 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: like Harris, Like ZIPS is very high on Harris. I 386 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: think he's like three and a half wins, Like it's 387 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: a really aggressive projection. I would be under on that. 388 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, but I still would probably lean 389 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: in Michael's direction, in part because Ozzy is older. You know, 390 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: it's worth remembering Michael Harris is currently twenty four years old, 391 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: that'll be twenty five in March. He's very very young, 392 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: which is part of why projecting sisters are are still 393 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna like him because he should be on the upswing. Still, 394 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: Ozzie it is not on the upswing now. He's younger 395 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: than you might think. Os would be twenty nine in 396 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: a couple of days, and twenty nine it's like right 397 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of your prime. But when you're five 398 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: to five, I'm not sure twenty nine is in your prime. 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: He might just have a little bit of an odd 400 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: agent curve. 401 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: Oh so, almost certainly. And there's other things too with 402 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: Ozzy Alby's that makes me concerned. And let's say, like 403 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: we love Ozzie Alby's, love Assie, like if you just 404 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: like personality wise what he's you know, his reputation on 405 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: off the field. We are huge Ossy Alby's fans. But 406 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty concerned. I really don't think Ozzy's gonna 407 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: bounce back now. If everybody else in the lineup is 408 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: doing their job, I think it's gonna be fine. But 409 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: I have some legit concern. I mean, maybe you're not 410 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: as concerned as I am. Brad All, I mean, where 411 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: are you at? 412 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not as concerned as some people are. I 413 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: also think people should not think that odd is gonna 414 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: be a star again, Like Ozzi was a star, like 415 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a four win, five win Star Wars player. That guy's gone. 416 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: I think I think he can be what SIMS projects, 417 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: which is like a two win player, and that is 418 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: not exciting. That's not going to be exciting to anybody. 419 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: But that's a twenty million dollar player and he makes 420 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: seven million dollars, So like I would. Okay, so I'll 421 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: ask you this, if you could sign up for whatever 422 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: way he gets there. Ozzy Albi's posts a two Fangraft 423 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: four season in twenty twenty six. Yes or no? Do 424 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: you take that right now? Yes? 425 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: Because, to be blunt, I think that's probably pretty close 426 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: to Ozzie's ceiling after another handmate bone injury. I worry 427 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: about the power. His defense has graded out terribly the 428 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. He's also lost a step. He 429 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: was only forty fourth percentile in sprint speed, whereas a 430 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: couple of years ago he was routinely in the seventies 431 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: and eighties. So I'm pretty concerned. I mean, if it's 432 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: not clear, I am capital letters concerned about Ozzie Alby's 433 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: I hope he's able to bounce back. But I mean, 434 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: to answer your question, I would take a two war 435 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: season all day long. 436 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I would too. I think he has higher upside than that, 437 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: but his upside is not what it was like. You know, 438 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: for instance, twenty twenty three, he hit thirty three home 439 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: runs and was a one point of five WSC plus 440 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: and a four win player. That guy's probably gone, I think, 441 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: But can he be I don't know, like a one 442 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: to ten WRC plus league average. Maybe defensively, like that's 443 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: a good player. It's not a great player anymore. But 444 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about this probably too long. I 445 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: we both would take Carris. It's funny. I think if 446 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: you asked me who's going to be the better offensive player, 447 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: I would take Aussie. 448 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: Interesting. You know, I probably would have until he broke 449 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: the Handmaid down. 450 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if I thought he was healthy, I would 451 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: take Auzsie for sure. Like I wouldn't even think about 452 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: it offensively, only with the Handmaid bone. You're right, it's 453 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: there's there's a level of uncertainty that we have to 454 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge him with that we have in knowledge, like we 455 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: don't we don't know what it's going to look like. 456 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: But having just had that, it clearly affected him. The 457 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: numbers showed that I think the comments on and off 458 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: the record showed that as well. You know he does. 459 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do that, doing it right for the 460 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: offense is probably a good time for it to happen, 461 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: like you have the whole off season. But maybe he's 462 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent ready, not ready to go like 463 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: he'll he'll play earlier in the year. But maybe he's not, 464 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: like himself told June. And if that happens, then yeah, 465 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: you gotta dog rate him a little bit for sure. 466 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: And for reference in case, folks, the handmate bone is 467 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: a notorious bone that hitters break in their hand and 468 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: it's known to zap your power and impact your grip strength. 469 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: A lot of power hitters, just hitters in general, have 470 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: broken this bone getting hit in the hand and then 471 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: zaps their power for a certain amount of time and 472 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: everyone responds differently. And you're absolutely right. The fact that 473 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Ozzie broke that bone in September, he has six plus 474 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: seven months to get back to being healthy. That's encouraging 475 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: because in the second half of last season Ozzie carried 476 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: a one to eleven WRC plus and in ops of 477 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: about seven fifty. That's so much more in line yes, 478 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: all day long. Oh my god, yeah, send it in 479 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: no questions asked. I just I worry about yet another 480 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: injury to the same hand, to the same risk to 481 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: a player who is smaller is unconventional, has always been unconventional. 482 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: That that really does have me concerned. And I would 483 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: love nothing more than for Ozzy in the first month 484 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: of the year to hit aid home runs and say 485 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: in your eye Scott Coleman and and you know, and 486 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: come on the podcast and laugh at me forever doubting him. 487 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: He's one of the guys that I think we'll pay 488 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: close attention to in spring training than most because for me, 489 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: like Sperence, training is not about like it's about like 490 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: are you healthy? Do you look like? Like do you 491 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: have the juice? What are you saying on the record, 492 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: Like what's the buzz about his health? Like obviously Sean 493 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Murphy is one of those where it's like, hey, are 494 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: you able to play? But Oz is one to kind 495 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: of quiet le monitor. I think everyone's saying he's gonna 496 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: be good to play, but good to play and one 497 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: hundred percent back to where you were physically are not 498 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: the same thing, which is notable. So anyway, a good 499 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: question good prompt confidence level is really interesting. They need 500 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: this is a different question. They need one of these 501 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: guys to bounce back. I don't know if you're gonna 502 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: get both. I would take one, to be honest with you. 503 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's the pessimist in me, but they need one. 504 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: If you get what you got from Ozzie and Michael 505 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: last year, that's not good. That's gonna be now. Granted 506 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: it won't be as bad because you're already reference to this, 507 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: but not having Nick Allen the lineup makes everything a 508 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: little bit easier. But you still don't want to have 509 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five level of Harris and the twenty 510 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: five level of Ozzie in the same line of every day. 511 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: That's not what you want. 512 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: I think you can withstand one of them being bad. 513 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be really tough. If both of these guys 514 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: struggle as badly as they struggled last year, we're gonna 515 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: be kind of hanging on for dear life because the 516 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: top of this line and can only do so much. 517 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: All right, Scott, Let's pivot to another question from Mike, 518 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: who says, does Louise Severino make sense for a Braves 519 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: trade if they don't sign a free agent starter interesting question, 520 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I Gott. We talked about a couple times on the pod, 521 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: but not in a ton of depth. And I think 522 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: once the Braves made their pitching coach change because Jeremy 523 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: Hefner has experienced with Severino, which you pointed out I 524 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: think already on the podcast and again to me in 525 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: the documentary right now, but just to lay to set 526 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: up a little bit what he's contract looks like, and 527 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you. He is going to make 528 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty five million this year. That's a lot of money, 529 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: I understand, but it's not crazy in the world. I'll 530 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: starting pitching prices and then a player option, aha player 531 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: option for twenty two million dollars next year. I have 532 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: to say this out loud. He plays with the A's. 533 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that A's might pay some of 534 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: that contract if they were to be able to shed 535 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: it from their books. So you're not like, this is 536 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: a situation where you're getting a guy and you know 537 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: you're paying all the contracts. Uh, maybe they would have to, 538 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: but the A's probably are not in love with that 539 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: contract given where they operate financially. So all that said, 540 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: the question is you were a Scott Does he make 541 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: sense for the Braves? Yes? 542 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: Or no. Louis Severino the last two seasons has a 543 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: four point two ERA, a four point one six FIP 544 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: and a four point three six x FIP across about 545 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: fifty five starts with the Mets and the Athletics. And 546 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: it's interesting because my take on Louis Severino is I'm 547 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: not interested today, but get back to me in three 548 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: or four weeks. Once from Bravaldez assigned, Ranger Swarez assigned, 549 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: Chris Bassett, Zach Gallen, whoever else is no longer available. 550 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: If the Braves strikeout or don't want to go to 551 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: whatever links it is to sign one of those free agents, 552 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: I would be mildly interested. Reno. I think what I 553 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: would want is to basically one give up no prospects 554 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: of no. I mean, if they want to throw in 555 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old so it hasn't even made it 556 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: to the States. Yeah. And then also either the a's 557 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: cover money or the Braves would send Aaron Bummer in 558 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: his ten million dollars to Sacramento to balance it out, 559 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: because then you're getting Louis Severino for like fifteen million bucks. 560 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: That's not bad. 561 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that there. 562 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that is not a lot of money for 563 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: starting pitchers in the year twenty twenty six. So I'm 564 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 2: not in love with sever Reno. But he is an 565 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: interesting name because, and you alluded to this a moment ago, 566 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: Oakland slash Sacramento would give this guy away. I mean 567 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: they would. They would personally drive him to the airport 568 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: to say see you later. Sever Reno also probably once 569 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: out he openly criticized the ballpark that the A's were 570 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: playing in, and I mean it was it was little league, 571 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: and I mean it's a legitimate minor league. 572 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: They're still playing there, by the way, Yes they are. 573 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: He hated it. 574 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: So an interesting name. I wouldn't say it's zero percent. 575 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a low chance that the Braves will 576 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: get Severino. But if again, if all the free agents 577 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: signed for crazy contracts or get you know, opt outs 578 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: after every year like em I just got, then maybe 579 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: you have that conversation. And I mean I would take 580 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: him over Bryce Elder. I can tell you that right now. 581 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. Not a priority acquisition, 582 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you would certainly prefer Baldezer Swarez full stop Gallan. It 583 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: still depends on what the money is with Gallen. I'm 584 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: not in love with Gallen, but he is a I 585 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: like the upside a lot better with Gallon than Severino. 586 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: I went through the numbers a little bit on this 587 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: number one his stuff plus, which is a good metric 588 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: of like just how how good your stuff is. It 589 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: was good last year. I took too kind of actually 590 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a half step forward, odd situation like he's signed there. 591 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: It was like when he signed with the A's, people 592 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: are like, what's going on here? And the A's kind 593 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: of like needed to spend some money for revenue sharing 594 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: purposes and all these Anyway, they decided to give him money, 595 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: and it was kind of an odd situation. The way 596 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: you put it is perfect because while I have been 597 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: higher on the Chris Bassett types than you this winter, 598 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I think Louis Severino is like very comparable with Chris Bassett. 599 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in like an awesome, like 600 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: pump your fist way, but for example, they have almost 601 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: the exact same fangrafts for and innings totals over the 602 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: last two seasons. They're both like two and a half 603 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: win per season pitchers. The last two years. Not sexy, 604 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: but good eat innings, pretty durable, guys. Severrino's four years 605 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: younger than Bassett, and that's the kind of deal Bassett's 606 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna get. Like what Severrino's owed is basically two years 607 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: and forty seven million dollars if you factor in the 608 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: player option, that's like what Bassett's probably gonna get. And 609 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: if it's the situation that you laid out, like I'm 610 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: not saying you trade, you know, Ken Kimen Eddie for 611 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: Louis Averno, that would be insane. You don't do that. 612 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: You don't trade any I'm with you, no top ten 613 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: prospects for Louis Severno. But if the price is bargain 614 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: basement and your other options are gone, like I could 615 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: definitely see Alex saying I'd rather trade essentially nothing for 616 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Luis Severino then give Zach Gallon one hundred million dollars. Yeah, 617 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's defensible to me. Now I'd rather pay 618 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars for Rader Suarez or Favorite moll 619 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: Is than trade for Luis Arena personally, but as they 620 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: fall back in a month, in six weeks, it's not crazy, 621 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: like you could certainly convince me that that would be 622 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: a relatively responsible addition, especially if the price is as 623 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: low as I think that it might be. Also one 624 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: of my pet projects, Tyler Mallley signed this week, one 625 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: of the few guys who signed recently rip to. One 626 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: of my dreams was that Tyler Balley would sign for 627 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: like eight million dollars to the Bravees. I'm kind of 628 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: kidding about the dream, but like guy, I would have 629 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: liked the Braves to sign. 630 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: No. 631 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: I think Sevrina is interesting in a sick o way, 632 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: like no one would be excited, not even us, Like 633 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: we come on and be like, all right, here's the deal. 634 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: Everybody body pretty useful, pitcher, not sexy. So if we're 635 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: saying that, the reaction would probably be like this guy stinks, 636 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: get him out. He It's fine, that's the normal reaction. 637 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: But the Hefner piece does make it my brain go 638 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: a little bit up. But also it might be that 639 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: Hefner's like, hey, Alex, no, we don't know. We don't 640 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: know if we we don't know if he loves him 641 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: or not. And it's uh, it will never know if 642 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't like him, you know what I mean? 643 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Right, So that familiarity. Yeah, familiarity with the player is 644 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: not always positive. I mean, yes, there is that easy 645 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: line connection between Severino who just for reference, Severino's career 646 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: was basically on life support. He signed with the Mets. 647 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Jeremy Hefner was the pitching coach with the Mets, and 648 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Severino had his best year in a couple of seasons 649 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: and ultimately got a two year plus one contract with Sacramento, 650 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: and everyone was like, wow, Okay, good for sever Reino. 651 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: He's back. 652 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, of course one time a major pitcher with the 653 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: New York Yankees. So that's why there's been a little 654 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: bit of connecting the dots. It would feel very alex 655 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: and thoughtless, especially if he was able to unload Aaron 656 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: Bummer or if Sacramento threw in eight to twelve million 657 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: dollars to cover some of that money. That's why he 658 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: makes sense. And you're right, I mean, if get back 659 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: to me on January twentieth and and we'll make a 660 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: decision on whether or not it makes sense to pursue Severino. 661 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: That's not that far away. That's a two weeks from 662 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: I Scott, there's a chance that Suarez and Valdez are 663 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: still available on that's true. 664 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: Okay, get back to me on January twenty seventh. That's 665 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: my mom's birthday. Happy early birthday Mom. January twenty seventh. 666 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: We'll have maybe the Luis Severino discussion if nothing else 667 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: has happened. 668 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Shults of Scott's mom. No, And look, there's always 669 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: a guy or too, like Sevrino. I think everyone understands 670 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: it's probably available in trade. We talked about Joe Ryan 671 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: earlier this summer early winter, Pablo Lopez, like that kind 672 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: of guy's there's probably somebody available. We don't know he's available. 673 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: That Alex bite Bilda pounce on. And it's one of 674 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: those things that like we just kind of he's a 675 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: very natural fallback option. Who I Yeah, I think it's comparable, 676 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: not better than Chris Bassett, but like somewhat in that 677 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: like next year down. If the price is right, and 678 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: again the price is low. If the price is high, 679 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: we're out. I could probably speak for you on that. 680 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: And the price is high're right. 681 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, Please don't hear this. Please don't hear this 682 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 2: segment and go, oh, the guys on hammerd Territory are 683 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: banging the door. 684 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: For lay Severino we're not. 685 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: But if rahmber Valdez gets two hundred million dollars and 686 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez gets a six year deal, and we don't 687 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: believe in Zach Gallon enough, and Chris Bassett beats Merrill 688 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: Kelly who got two years and forty million, then I 689 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: would if it's all things equal, I don't necessarily want 690 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: Louis Severino, but if the Braves strikeout everywhere else, yes, 691 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: and I am fascinated to know of the we'll call 692 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: it rumored to be available starting pitchers on the trade market. 693 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: Who's actually available, Like there was some smoke earlier today 694 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: with Edward Cabrera from the Marlins might be available, and 695 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: sounds like a couple of teams to there. Earlier in 696 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: the off season there was talking about Pablo Lopez and 697 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan, but there's been nothing on that front ever since. 698 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: Maybe the Twins aren't going to sell. There's a lot 699 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 2: of not a lot of there's some bad teams in 700 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: baseball who probably makes sense for trade partners with the Braves. 701 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: I think at this point we're just waiting for the 702 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: free agency dominoes to fall, and then there will be 703 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a scattering of trade stuff in 704 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: the back end of January before everybody has to get 705 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: ready to go come early February. 706 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and unfortunately everything's full circle. The market is just 707 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of a waiting game. And I think that 708 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: just as a lot of people, whether you're a school 709 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: teacher or you're going on or you do sales or whatever, 710 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: you're going back to work, like tomorrow or maybe today's 711 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: wisten this podcast, the fifth is like the day that 712 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: everyone goes back to work. That's probably the case of 713 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: maj Wely baseball to some degree as well. It's a 714 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: different job, but kind of there's some normalcy to it. 715 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: The holidays are over, and I think this week we'll 716 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: probably see a little bit more fireworks than we saw 717 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: last week. Non Japanese player division when it comes to posting. 718 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, with that said, it's a new year, Scott. 719 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty six. Our first show is in the 720 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: books for the most part. You mentioned it earlier, but 721 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: last year was not a lot of fun. Like I 722 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: like talking to you, I like talking to Sean, I 723 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: like talking to Steven, all of our guests. I enjoyed it. 724 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: In the podcast. The Braves had a nightmare season Nightmber Year, 725 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: Nemour calendar year last year. I don't want to tempt 726 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: fate by saying it can't get worse, because it can 727 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: always get worse. But I don't think it will. I 728 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: think it will be better in twenty twenty six. How 729 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: much better remains to be seen. But we're catching in 730 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: the fire again. About baseball, We're getting closer. Spring training 731 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: is on the in the offing. Scott and I are 732 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: fans of the number one, number two teams in college basketball. 733 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: You might be able to see our moods improve as 734 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: the spring goes along. That goes well, you know, we're 735 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: almost there. It's a new year, Scott, happy to we 736 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: did not do the construction of New Year's resolutions that 737 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: every podcast does. Maybe we should have. Maybe we'll do 738 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: that in two weeks. What nothing else is going on 739 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: but a pleasure to talk to you once again as 740 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: this New Year's upponus. 741 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: Yes, Happy New Year's to you, my good friend and 742 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: everybody out there. And I just want to give take 743 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: a quick moment to give a sincere thank you to 744 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: everybody who has checked out the show, whether you've been 745 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: listening to us since the Talking Chop days, or you 746 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: joined on three weeks ago, and I'm sure there's every 747 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: day I hear, hey we just found you guys, I 748 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: didn't know you changed hosting sites, or wow, we just 749 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: found the show. 750 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: We love it. 751 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: Thanks for all you do. We really do appreciate you 752 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: guys checking out the show. It means the world to us. 753 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: You would never know this team has had such a 754 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: bad twenty twenty five. 755 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: The way that everybody tunes in that gives us a reason. 756 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 2: We really do strive to give you, guys the best 757 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: Braves content on the internet. And we'll continue to keep 758 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: rolling in twenty six, and God willing, let's have a 759 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: better season, maybe have another signing or two in the 760 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: next couple of weeks, and then let's get back to 761 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Let's do those playoff series, Let's do those 762 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: playoff game reactions and shows that you know we're sweating, 763 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: and then we fire up the microphones and do a 764 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: fun show. Let's get back to more of that for 765 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: the Braves in twenty twenty six. 766 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: I agree with my friend. Please subscribe everybody, if you 767 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: have not, if you just foind us now, hey, welcome 768 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: on board, Please go ahead subscribe. If you are an 769 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: audio listener, Apple Spotify, et center. Easy to subscribe there. 770 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: If you want to take two seconds and a'llo subscribe 771 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube, be very helpful to go ahead and do that. 772 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: That's literally a one click endeavor and the same in 773 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: reverse if you if you're a video watcher on YouTube, 774 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. As always, please subscribe on 775 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: your favorite podcastlet from as well. Audio wise, Apple Spotify 776 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: auto download the show. All the clicks help us not 777 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: to try a game system, but it's true that it 778 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: all helps us patronize our our advertisers, all that stuff, ratings, reviews. 779 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: Follow Scott if you want to on social media is 780 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: an excellent follow on the Braves. He's at Scott Pullum 781 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: fifty five. I'm a kind of a bad Braves follow, 782 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: so if you want to follow me, that's okay at 783 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: pt Roland. But Steve and Sewan and Scott are way 784 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: better follow us than I am about baseball only because 785 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I do like it's basketball season. I'm doing a lot 786 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: of basketball now. It's just what it is. It's worked 787 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: for me. One more time, Thank you everyone for listening. 788 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: We'll have much more coming up this week, a more 789 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: normal schedule moving forward the holidays are over. We're back 790 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: in full the Stay tuned subscribe. We'll see everybody next time.