1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Why from our nations came this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: to do nothing space forces. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Politics Lighting sound on with Kevin's Relate The Insiders Speak Influencers, insides, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: than it looked. Ins You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The president has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: sendn here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: He's sound on with Kevin's Your Relate on Bloomberg one 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and one seven m h D two Boltimore Trade talk. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Trade talks continue and President Trump says he's holding up 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: the trade deal with China China ahead of the G 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty summit in Osaka, Japan. Meanwhile, there's more fallout between 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: not just President Trump and President Shi Jing Ping of China, 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: but former Vice President Joe Biden weighing in on the 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: trade talk. Speaking of the twenty race, We've got a 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: candidate with the in studio. John Delaney is here with us. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: He just got off of Bloomberg Television. Now he's gonna 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: break down where the best place to get barbecue or pork, 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: and Iowa is he spends a lot of time in Iowa. 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Before we get to all of that, plus the ongoing 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: fallout of the the the the situation pertaining to the U. 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: S m c A in Mexico. What a beautiful, beautiful 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: day here inside of the Beltway in Washington, d C. 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: We are going to dissect all of the latest trade 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: headlines coming out of the White House from President Trump, 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: the back and forth that he's had not just with 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a former Vice president Biden, but also with Republicans, and 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: he's upping the anti against China President shi Jing Ping. 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: But before we get to all of that, Democratic presidential 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: candidate John Delaney's here with us in studio, fresh from 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: where where was the last campaign stop? You're at at 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the Hall? Who was inducted into the Iowa Hall of Fame? 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people got awards, but the Hubbles, who 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: was the Democratic nominee for governor h was the big awarding. 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: What is your favorite part of Iowa? Well, I like 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: all of iola. Well like what's like the what's like 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: the interesting part of Io? Well, you know the people, 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, their their seriousness around this process. I just 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: find remarkable, and I think if the rest of the 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: country could actually see it, they would feel much more 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: comfortable about them having this early state. So the last 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: cycle I I literally covered, it was like a very 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: crowded Republican cycle and I would meet someone and I 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: would say, oh, like, what you know in my notebook? 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you think of Rubio? What do 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: you think of Trump? What do you think of Carson? 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: And then I got to like, what's it's like Bush, 50 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: for example? And he goes, well, I don't know, and 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. I said, what do you mean 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: you don't know? Well, I haven't met him yet. I mean, 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: the voters genuinely want to shake your hand and know 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: precisely who you are before they decide. So what is 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: your What is it like to have to meet that 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: many people every time? That I think it's great? I mean, 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: I guess. For example, I had this terrific event on 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: Friday night and it was a big crowd and someone 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: came up to said in the Q and eight portion, 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: they said, you know, I read your book and I 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: really liked you, but I like you so much more 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: in person because I think I get a sense as 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: to what you're all about. And that's the thing. You 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: can't really figure out another human being until you meet 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: them in many ways, right, because so much of this 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: is figuring out what's in someone's heart, Like why do 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: you want to be the president? Right? Well, because I 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: want to fix all these problems we have in our 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: country right now, and I think I'm the right one 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: to do it, and I think people genuinely believe that 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm both sincere about that, and then I actually have 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: a plan to do it. And that comes across when 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: you meet I think me or anyone in general, you 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: just get a sense not only to what's in their head. 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: And you can read my book to figure out what's 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: in my head, but what's in my heart you don't 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: really figure oututi meeting. So how do you so? I mean? 78 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: And you, I've interviewed you countless time. I've chased you 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: in the halls of Congress, back when you're a congressman 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and you've got this business, small busines, this big business. 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I think you were the youngest trader, right, I was 82 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the youngest CEO in the history of the New York 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: Doctors change the history of the New York dockor change. 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: It might have been eclipsed since I did it. I 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: took my first company public in I was thirty three 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: year old, and I got like Zuckerberg and all of them. Okay, 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: you know that I'm out of the Beltway. Don't tell 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: the big bosses in New York. Um, so you're in 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: im where there's been a lot of talking trade. The 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: politician answer, I'm pivoting. I'm like, get me out of this. 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: What are you hearing from farmers? And I know about 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: the trade talks, well, um, they're pissed about. I think 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: what the President has done. I mean I was one 94 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: of the big supporters of the Trans Pacific Partnership. I 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: think the President ride. I was one of his lead 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: point people in the House on this bill, and I 97 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: think as president, I'll get us right back in the 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: t p P and prices will go up. Right. Ever 99 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: since we've had this person in the White House, prices 100 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: have gone down, and I think they're suffering, and uh, 101 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, it's a real problem. I think it's a 102 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: real and what he's done with China for farmers, I 103 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: think it would have been a real problem. What he 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: threatened to do with Mexico, which now he's not doing 105 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: because Mexico agreed to do what they had already agreed to, 106 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: And it's like dot because he still might technically do 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: it right and they haven't really agreed to anything that's new. 108 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: So it's it's I just think he's random and the 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: way he does this stuff, obviously, and trade is a 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: complicating I think what people underestimate, Like you're dealing with 111 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: the Chinese, they have serious people who do this trade 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: stuff and there they do it for their careers and 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: they're really good at it. We bring in new people 114 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: every administration and so that's why it's in the past 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: we've been able to build coalitions to support trade agreements 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: across multiple administrations. What he did with the TPP was 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: just terrible. It was bad for US economics. Say, it 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: hurt farmers, and it hurt our It hurt our ability 119 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: to compete with China, which we need to do in 120 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: the future. So what I find interesting is the centrist 121 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: lane everyone pegs as the centrist and that you're you're 122 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: competing for the centrist lane of the Democratic UH primary. 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: You went to war with Aos and wards when you've 124 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: gotten a political tit for tat with Freshman Congresswoman Alexandria 125 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Accacio Cortez. I believe it was over Medicare for all, Yes, 126 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and then you got booed at the California Democrats. That 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: happened first, and then I got enough, So like what's 128 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: going through your mind at the California Democratic Convention. So 129 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: to me, this isn't actually about centrist or progressives. It's 130 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: about people who actually have real hands and real solutions 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: versus people who basically don't have plans and just have 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: bumper sticker slogans or actually being dishonest. And I stepped 133 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: forward at the California Convention and did something that I 134 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: think proved to be pretty courageous, which is I said 135 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: what a lot of people believe, which is the single 136 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: payer Medicare for all bill that Senator Sanders introducing the 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Congress and everyone is getting behind is bad policy and 138 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: it's bad politics. And that's not because I don't want 139 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: universal health care. I have a plan to give every 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: American healthcare as a basic right of citizenship. But this 141 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: notion're gonna make private insurance illegal, which is in the bill. 142 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: It's like the first sentence of one of the key 143 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: paragraphs private insurance will be illegal. Hundred and fifty million 144 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Americans have private insurance, a hundred million of them like it. 145 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: And so I don't see why the Democratic Party should 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: run on taking from a hundred million Americans that they like. 147 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: That's never gonna happen. So if we actually run on 148 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: that will lose. It's also bad policy. You know, Medicare 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: and Medicaid, which are the two government programs they don't 150 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: pay enough. If you go to any hospital in this 151 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: country and you asked them how it would go if 152 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: all of their bills were reimbursed at the Medicare rate, 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: they all say the same thing, we would close. Let's 154 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: see what I think. And so I said this, I 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: was booed, which is fine. I don't care about getting 156 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: booed um. I care about getting healthcare right. And AOC 157 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: told me to leave the race because my way of 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: getting universal healthcare and every American is a right, is 159 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: different than hers, which I thought was a very intolerant response. 160 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: And I think the Democratic Party should stand for an 161 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: open debate and some tolerance to the battle of ideas. 162 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: And so I just said, you know, I've never walked 163 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: away from anything, certainly not walking away from this what 164 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't so and you know this, I mean, no 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: matter what the years, it's oh, you gotta get out 166 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: the base, to base, the base, the base. Well where 167 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: all the how come? I mean, do do you buy 168 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: that Centrists don't vote in primaries? Listen? Why aren't they 169 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: organized where like the radical centrist? This is not that hard, 170 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: right In two thousand eighteen, we flipped the House. You 171 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: know this as well as anyone because you follow this stuff, 172 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: and you know how we flipped the House. We turned 173 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: forty seats Republican Democrat. And all those people who flipped 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 1: those seats ran as problem solvers. They talked to pocketbook, 175 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: kitchen table issues that matter to the American people. They 176 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't talk about like purity tests. They talked about solving problems. 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: So they ran a centrist and that's how we won. 178 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: Turnout was high everywhere in this country. Didn't matter who 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: was on the ballot, we had high turnout. That's gonna 180 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: happen in election is going to be fought in the 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: center with and the winner will be someone who has 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: real solutions. So when you look okay, like I'm gonna 183 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: have to ask the impatient question, I feel it's like 184 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a rerun every time. I mean, it's like, what with 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: with impeachment in particular? Are you Fourtiament? I'm I'm for 186 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: following Nancy Pelosi's lead, I think, But I'm serious about this. 187 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: I think Nancy Pelosi is one of the most impressive 188 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: people I've ever met in my life. I think she 189 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: was made for this moment. Uh. And she's a brilliant 190 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: strategist and tactician. She understands the role of the House 191 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: of Representatives better than anyone in that Congress, and she 192 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: understands what her job is better than anyone in that Congress. 193 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: And I think it's ridiculous for all these candidates, for 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: their own self interest to be questioning well, no, but yeah, 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: to fundraise. But to me, she is the person defending 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: our democracy right now, the sole person in many ways, 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: and she's playing this masterfully, I think, And I just 198 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous for a bunch of people to be undermining 199 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: her about something they don't know anything about, and she 200 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: knows it cold. So so I'm my view is on 201 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: this issue, we should follow Speaker Pelosi's lead. Where a 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: team and we've got on this issue. She's our captain 203 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: and we should follow her. You're happy with the debate stuff. 204 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not happy that the Democratic Party has become about donors. 205 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm not at all happy about that. So what would 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: you have changed it? Well, it should just be polling standards, right. 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: The Democratic Party is basically saying you've got you need 208 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty thousand donors. I mean, I'm in 209 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: the first debates, right, but the fall debates that are 210 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: requiring a hundred and thirty thousand donors. You know, Kevin, 211 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: only about ten of the American population has ever given 212 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: money to a political candidate. Yeah, I didn't know. What 213 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: does that surprise you when you hear when you know 214 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: that fifty of the American people can't afford five But 215 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: it's all the taxes. Because when you do your taxes, 216 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: they ask if you want to date they want well, no, 217 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: they ask you if you want to donate to the 218 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: public financing fund? All right, that's different. So you know 219 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: that this is the question, right, Why are we, as 220 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a Democratic Party deciding that this relatively small percentage of 221 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the country who gives money to candidates is determining who's 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: on the debate stage. I'm actually running for the people 223 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: who are left behind in this country, who are struggling 224 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to make their pay their basic necessities. They're not running 225 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: around giving money to candidates. Why are they having no 226 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: voice in this process? What's your strategy for the debate? 227 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: How do you prep for like a debate like this 228 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: because it's different. It's not like a tradition of there's 229 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: ten of us. It's yeah, you know, listen, I think 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: I've been prepping for the debate by campaigning and talking 231 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: to real people. So I'm going to talk about the 232 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: solutions I have to all the problems facing the American 233 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: You need, Okay, so I get that, But do you 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: need like a viral moment? Do you need? I mean, 235 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: like seriously, I don't think you enforce a viral moment. 236 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: I think you gotta basically say something that resonates with 237 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: the American people. Drink a red bullet before just go 238 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: out and just see like fired up? I'm fired up? 239 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Is that? Is there like a thing you're gonna do 240 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: before I'm gonna be in Miami. I'm gonna be like 241 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: watching like a hawk on the spinner under and be like, 242 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: what did Delaney do before? Push up? There? Okay, Okay, 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: John Delandy is going to do fifty push ups. You 244 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: heard it here first, Congressman John Delaney prompt, did do 245 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: fifty push up? You know I was in a push 246 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: up contest with Chuck Grassley. For the record, I won. 247 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: But how mad you do? I mean, I just I 248 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: did more than him. I mean he's also he got. 249 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean you should have spotted him. I would have 250 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: slapped at pound plate on your back. It up? Alright, 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: fifty push ups? John de ladies doing fifty push ups 252 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: before the first presidential debate. Good luck, you're bratt. Thank 253 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: you so much, Congressman Delaney, John Delaney, what's the book 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: called him? Where can people go if they want to 255 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: get it? The right answer? And it's on your website 256 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: on my website, John Delandy dot com. Check it out. 257 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: You can give me a dollar to help me get 258 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: in the debates too. All right? Uh, coming up reaction, 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: We've got Adam Green, co founder of the Progressive Change 260 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Campaign Committee, and Matt Brooks, Republican strategist and executive director 261 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: of the Republican Jewish Coalition. You can download the sound 262 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: on podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or 263 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find 264 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: us on radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Odify. 265 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli. I will be doing fifty push ups 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: after the show. And you're listening to Bloomberg. This is 267 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: Sound On with Keivins Relate on Bloomberg one and one 268 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: oh five point seven m h D two, Baltimore. I'm 269 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 270 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: We just had Democratic presidential candidate John Delaney on in studio. 271 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk all things trade policy and politics with 272 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: an all star panel. Matt Brooks his first time on 273 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: the program. Philly native, Republican strategist and executive director of 274 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: the Republican Jewish Coalition Lower Marian Actually, to be more precise, 275 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: being a Delco guy, you know, you gotta keep it 276 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: in the family. Adam Green, co founder of the Progressive 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Change Campaign Committee, has he's been on the program before. 278 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: I just found out he does have Philly roots. So 279 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and I've I've known you for 280 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: like eight years. I have Philly roots, but Jersey number one, baby, 281 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: What do you think of DELAYE? What do you think 282 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: of my interview with Delaney. John Delaney has a very 283 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: fervent support at less than one percent in the polls 284 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: early there's running. I know, you know John Delaney represent 285 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: his district in Maryland for a while quite well. But 286 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: bragging about getting booed in a Democratic primary probably isn't 287 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: pat the victory Medicare. I know, he didn't care and 288 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: voters don't care for his position on things like Medicare 289 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: for all or most other corporate or economical. But heking 290 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: the calculation that he's going to go after AOC to 291 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: try to break out of the field. I mean from 292 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: a nuanced political strategist perspective. What's interesting about that is 293 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: he's taken off the gloves. I mean, forget about Trump 294 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: for a second. I mean, there's twenty people and then 295 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: he's going after the Democrat is not running. It's kind 296 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: of funny. Well, it's it, but it's interesting, right. I mean, 297 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: those who are not with AOC and not on her 298 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: page probably have other choices like Joe Biden to choose from. 299 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: I smiled this week when someone reminded it might have 300 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: been a Morning Joe or something. Somebody pointed out that 301 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the sister Soldier. Moment of too was in the general election, 302 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: not in the primary. Right, Like, offending your race in 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the primary isn't the best trategy, but you know it 304 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: is heartfelt. I do believe that he earnestly does not 305 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: believe in Medica. All Right, we're gonna talk about coming up. 306 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: We've got some polls. We're going to dive into some 307 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Iowa polls. But I was at the White House earlier 308 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: today and I was struck by all of the comments 309 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: that were coming out of President Trump and the back 310 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: and forth on trade policy, and Matt, I want to 311 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: play for you what President Trump had to say about 312 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Biden and China trade policy. Here's President Trump, here is 313 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden thought that China was not a competitor of us. 314 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a dummy. Joe Biden thought China was 315 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: not a competitor. So he's taking on former Vice President Biden. Matt, 316 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: because I think there's an assumption, at least according to 317 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: the reporting that I do with sources on the re 318 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: elect that day, view Biden as the top challenger. I think, 319 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the case. Saying I have 320 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: a hard and fast rule in politics, which is, uh, 321 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: don't try and pick your opponent. You may get your 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: wish and uh, you know, I click look at Hillary. 323 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean exactly, they were salivating over the chance to 324 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: run against Donald Trump. The Carter people were salivating over 325 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: the chance to run against Ronald Reagan. Um, I think 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: it's too early yet to see who is going to 327 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: be the strongest candidate. I think, you know, I think 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: that that Biden's gonna have a very very difficult time. 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: And I think the President is right. He's not a 330 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: particularly strong candidate, and I think he's gonna have a 331 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: very difficult time even getting the nomination. Yep. So I 332 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: think there's two things going on here. One, he's trying 333 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: to pick his own opponent, and I agree with you 334 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: that that's not a great strategy. Look at me, getting 335 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: people agree ahead, bringing people together, that's what I do. Second, 336 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: he actually this is partly a replay of what happened 337 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: sixteen when Donald Trump actually outflanked Democrats when it came 338 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: to economic populism and trade. Most people think that that 339 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: he lost all three debates. He actually won the first 340 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: thirty minutes of the first debate, which is all about 341 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: now to end TPP and it's happening again, right. Joe 342 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Biden is consistently part of his brand is cutting back 343 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: room deals with giant corporations and out of touch Republican insiders. 344 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: That's what these trade deals are. You know, he loves 345 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: cutting trade deals with China, and Donald Trump is trying 346 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to outfland. You agree with the President Trump just said 347 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: today about your Biden. I'm not saying I agree with 348 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: him per se, but I am saying that the dynamic 349 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: that he's tapping into kind of outflank democrats on economic 350 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: populism and working people's issues. If you do, you do 351 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: agree with him on you do agree with him on 352 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: T P P. You do agree with him on a 353 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: number of of these things, which is an interesting confluence 354 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: between the left and the rights. Yeah, the populism populist 355 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: on the left and right, and Adams exactly right. People 356 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: out there are angry if you go outside of Washington, Wathington. 357 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: We live, you know, in this make believe world where 358 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: we have this echo chamber. But the reality is people 359 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: understand that for far too long we've been getting the 360 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: short end of it with our supposed allies and trading 361 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: partners and and Donald Trump to his credits, saying, you 362 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna put up with that anymore. 363 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna be the hardass 364 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: and really, you know, push back on this stuff. All right, 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Coming up, much more politics and policy with Adam Green 366 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: and Matt Brooks. I'm Kevin Cirilli. You're listening to Bloomberg. 367 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: This is Sound On with Kevin's on Bloomberg one and 368 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven F M h D two, Baltimore. 369 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: If you enjoy the weather, I mean, it doesn't get 370 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: better than this, folks, Tuesday in the district. It's beautiful outside. 371 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: It's like it's like if we could hit pause on 372 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: this weather. Wake up. If you're in the car, draft safe, 373 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: come on, stay with me. It's only Tuesday. I'm joined 374 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: by Adam Green, co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. 375 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Matt Brooks, his first time on the program, Republican strategist. 376 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: He's the executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. We're 377 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: talking trade, we're talking tariffs. Were just a few short 378 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: day weeks away from from when President Trump will sit 379 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: down one on one with Chinese President shi Jingping and Osaka, Japan. 380 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: At the G twenty, he said, paused on the terrorists 381 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: with Mexico. He's urging the Mexico government to pass whatever 382 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: sort of deal was made, and urging the Democrats and 383 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic controlled House of Representatives to pass U m 384 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: U S m c A or not to two point out, 385 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: all of which is unknown as of now. But now 386 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: he's turning his attention back to China and keyword and 387 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: the crowded Democratic presidential field, and he took on former 388 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Vice President Joe Biden, calling him a quote unquote dump 389 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: today for how Biden would negotiate with China. Well, the 390 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: former vice president, this is what he had to say. 391 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: The president is literally an existential threat to America. Adam Green, 392 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I know you like Warren, but if it, do you 393 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: agree with Biden right there that Trump is an existential threat? Yes, yes, 394 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: that we are at our stress the maximum part of 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: our stress test right now. We can't take another four years. Absolutely. 396 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that Matt on the issue of of 397 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: China in particular. I mean, when you look at Biden 398 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: campaigning and union halls in western Pennsylvania, in Ohio, he 399 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: was recently in Wisconsin, Michigan, I mean, these are the 400 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: states that Trump carried. He's how how is President Trump 401 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: going to say Biden is to the left of where 402 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: he is? How is he gonna make that? Guess? Oh, 403 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna make the case because people know in in 404 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: those union halls and in western Pennsylvania and in Michigan 405 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin and the rust belt states that he that 406 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: he won last time that uh uh he's a fighter, 407 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: and he realized and these people realize that for far 408 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: too long, you know, we've been on the receiving end 409 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: of you know, an unfair set of trade deals and 410 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: relationships with our with our trading pop eyes, and you know, 411 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: ranking up massive amounts of trade deficits and allowing the 412 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Chinese in particular to run rough shot over our intellectual property, 413 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: to steal our technology, uh, to undercut us uh, you know, 414 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: with in terms of manipulating their currencies and all the 415 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that uh, nobody has been willing to 416 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: take them on this. This president has drawn a line 417 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in the sand uh and said no more. And you know, 418 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the most effective tool that he has outside of the military, 419 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: uh is to really ratchet up uh tariffs on on 420 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: China and make them pay a financial price and you know, 421 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: this is a wake up call. And I think the 422 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Chinese are what's going on in China now? Are are 423 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: really feeling this in a disproportionate way, uh than the 424 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: United States is. And so I think all those people, 425 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: Kevin that you mentioned understand that this is a president 426 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: who's gonna fight not just uh to keep America safe 427 00:21:55,119 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: and secure militarily, but also make us respected and and 428 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: and strong economically. Yeah. So I think this trade issue, 429 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: this teriff issue, underscores why Elizabeth Warren is actually the 430 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: most competitive Democrat to defeat Donald Trump. You know, these 431 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: the issue with these trade agreements are not just that 432 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: they are unfair towards other countries. It's that they're written 433 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: in back rooms by the executives of giant corporations. When 434 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: the TPP was written, corporate execs were allowed in the room. 435 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: Members of Congress were not right. These are secret deals 436 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: written by corporations that want to offshore jobs to China. 437 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: And yes, Donald Trump tapped into that fervor in t sixteen, 438 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: but he was lying the whole time. He then stocked 439 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: his cabinet with people like Manuchin and others who come 440 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: right from Wall Street in the corporate world. Hillary Clinton 441 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: was not our best messenger to tap into that worldview. 442 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren is. Her entire life's work has been standing 443 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: up for regular working people against corporate power, challenging the 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: big guy. Hear you, I hear you on that. Why 445 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: not Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders could be competitive too. You know. 446 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I've been in the room as she's campaigned in Iowa, 447 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, New Hampshire. And one thing it's 448 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: really interesting is that it's not just that she has 449 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: a plan. It's that she has a personal story of 450 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: struggle growing up poor in Oklahoma, a personal story of 451 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: struggle as a single mom in Texas that really connects 452 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: emotionally with people and underscores why her plans makes I 453 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: think it was a coming up. We're gonna talk more 454 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: more in because I mean, if there's anyone from Warren 455 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: world who's more of a Warren insider, I can't find 456 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: the mother than Adam. And And there was a there 457 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: was a I believe it was an Iowa the organizing 458 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: meeting or was it in Detroit when all the volunteers 459 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: showed up and it was it went viral. It was 460 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: in either Detroit, Michigan, or somewhere in Iowa where like 461 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: all of these volunteers showed up and it got a 462 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of pick up. It went viral, but it's fascinating 463 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: to see and we're gonna talk about this pole coming 464 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: up out of Biowa. Much more of Adam Green, much 465 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: more with Matt Brooks. You can download the Sound On 466 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 467 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can find find us 468 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. I'm 469 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, 470 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Bloomberg one. This is Sound On 471 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: with Kevin's he related on Bloomberg and one oh five 472 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: point seven f m HD two Bolsom Or I'm Kevin Cirelli, 473 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Up 474 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. It was a busy day for Congressman Cicillini, 475 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: the Rhode Island Democrat. David Cicillini is the Subcommittee chairman 476 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: on the House Judiciaries Antitrust Committee, and he began that 477 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: investigation remember he was on the show last week. He 478 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: had the kick started that aggressional panel conducting a broad 479 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: antitrust investigation into the nation's biggest technology companies. Big tech, 480 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, Alphabet's, Google, Facebook, you name it. They were 481 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: looking at it. And this according to my colleague Naomi 482 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Nicks's were boarding on the Bloomberg terminal. The Bloomberg Terminal, 483 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: by the way, had impeccable coverage every which way of 484 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: this big tech hearing. Meanwhile, Margaret Talabs reboarding on the 485 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Bloomberg terminal that the White House sees Russia and China, 486 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: the White House, President Trump sees Russia and China planting 487 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: stories of US discord in the news media. This according 488 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: to White House National Security Advisor John Bolton. He said 489 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: that on Tuesday at an event by the Wall Street 490 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Journal in d C. Adam Green's here. Adam Green is 491 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: the co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. So 492 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: is Matt Brooks, Philly guy, Republican strategist, lives here in 493 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: d C. Now he's an executive dere He is the 494 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. Adam, you and 495 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: I were talking in the break about about big tech 496 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: and a Senator Warren and you'r you like warn for president, 497 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: connected to Warren World very much. So I just gotta 498 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: plan to break up big tech. What do you make 499 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: of this chatter up on the Antitrust Subcommittee that Cicelyni's doing. Yeah, well, 500 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: this is a burgeoning issue anti monopoly law, and what 501 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: people need to know about it is that this is 502 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: the antithesis of socialism. This is the most pro markets 503 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: thing one could imagine. This is the idea that the 504 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: big guy should not force the little guy out of 505 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: the market or prevent them from getting into the market. 506 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: This is the most pro small business, pro entrepreneurial thing possible, 507 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: basically saying that once you get into the market, you 508 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't lift the letter up behind you. So I see 509 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: this as relevant as inoculating democrats from the socialism charge 510 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: in it's also a subtle distinction between Bernie and Warren. 511 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: How is it a subtle distinction between Bernie and Warren? 512 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: Because before Bernie is gonna give this big I love 513 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: how we call him like his first name, like I 514 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: know the guy Bernie called me, But like Vermont Senator 515 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, he's going to give this big speech tomorrow. 516 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Regarding socialism, you say, this is an illustration of the 517 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: difference between Senator Warren and Senator Sanders. How So, yeah, 518 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: so Smith things, they're going in the same direction when 519 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: it comes to corporate accountability and fighting for working people. 520 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: I think they would both be progressive, transformational presidents. But 521 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: in terms of point of emphasis, her main point is 522 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: I want markets to work better. That means having a 523 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: cop on the beat. That means having actual rules in 524 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: the game, not letting, you know, Wall Street at the 525 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: credit card companies get away with murder. His point of 526 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: emphasis is more socialism. He's gonna make that case tomorrow. 527 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a distinction. It's not, you know, 528 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: it's not the difference between Trump and them. You know, 529 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: they're They're differences are much smaller. But in terms of 530 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: point of emphasis, it's it's worth down in Miami. It's 531 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: gonna be a brawl just saying predictions go ahead and that. 532 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: So a couple of observations. First of all, to the 533 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: point that you just made, Kevin, you know, from a 534 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: bit of schaden freud, having gone through this in sixteen 535 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: with the huge field and multiple debates and craziness. Uh, 536 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: it's it's just really enjoyable watching the Democrats go through 537 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: the same thing. And interestingly enough, I mean it is. 538 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's two fundamental things that the Democrats have 539 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: done this year that I think are to end up 540 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: causing them a lot of heartache down the road. Number one, Uh, 541 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: they did something which you know is somebody on the 542 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Republican side I have dreamed and coveted the idea of 543 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: having super delegates to help keep some order. Uh. What 544 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: did the Democrats do the cycle? They got rid of 545 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: all their super delegates. So you take the safety break, 546 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: the pressure valve off of this whole nominating process. And 547 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: what that's gonna do, uh is just empower the craziest 548 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: to to to run wild, and I believe nominate somebody 549 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: who may not you know, probably won't be electable when 550 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: compared to Donald Trump. Or it's going to create a 551 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: vacuum at the convention. And lord, well that's the that's 552 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: the other thing. And then you know, then they totally 553 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: frontloaded and changed the whole calendar of the primaries. So 554 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: whereas you would have, you know, an ability to pump 555 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: the brakes with some time in between. Now you've got, 556 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, back to back primaries with big states and 557 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: lots of delegates. All of it is a is a 558 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: recipe and a prescription for chaos. Yeah, so I'm not 559 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: cynical about out the dance delegate things as you or 560 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: I think. If you look at media bias, which Republicans 561 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: generally don't like, and you look at pro establishment forces, 562 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: which I think the basis of both party don't like, 563 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: that's really what the super delegate thing was about. Superdoicates 564 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: actually do have a vote on the second round of voting, 565 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: and in this twenty plus person primary that it's not 566 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: inconceivable that there will be a second round. What it 567 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: does is prevent the media networks from putting graphics on 568 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: the screen for months and months saying that somebody is 569 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: ahead when they have not won a single vote. And 570 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that's really one of the things that damned um Bernie, 571 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: because you know, there are no vote cast and Hillary 572 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: is the head by a thousand delegates. It's like, oh, 573 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: now we can't win. He's already lost nominations. Like, you 574 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: know what, at least let the voters have their say. 575 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: And if we get to the point later where super 576 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: delegates have a vote. Great to have a vote then, 577 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: but I think I think it's a great thing for democracy. 578 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Let the voters decide that's a bottom up thing that 579 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party should. I'm going to quote my friend here, 580 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: my mentor Tom Keane. We're gonna rip up the script. 581 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Let's go. I wasn't expecting to go here, but this 582 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: is fascinated because I'm a flashbacks to cover and you know, 583 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: rans pre U and the convention spicer back at the 584 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: r NC, they're like, you know, on the phone with 585 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: me talking to me through the delegates and the ballots 586 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: and all of the nuance. And I kept thinking to myself, 587 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: nobody cares, like I mean I And I couldn't say that, 588 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: of course any of my esteemed editors and colleagues who 589 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: are much smarter than I will ever be, But nobody cares. 590 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: And to Adam's point, if it to the voter who 591 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: is working NonStop trying to put food on table for 592 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: their family, they don't care. They want to know who 593 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: who got the most votes, what's the percentage council, who's 594 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: gonna win. All of the stuff is just Washington noise. No, No, 595 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: I think look, there's there's it's a useful noise, though, uh, 596 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: to the extent that you can have a check in 597 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: balance on on a process in which, uh, you know, 598 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: a disparate if if if your goal ultimately is to 599 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: win the election, you want to nominate the candidate who 600 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: is most likely to win, not the candidate that appeals 601 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: to the most progressive or the farthest left. I have 602 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: to interrupt, because you know who the candidate who's most 603 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: likely to win is the candidate that one. In order 604 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: to win, you have to win. The thing about winners, 605 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: they don't lose. And I think all of these rules 606 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: outside and all the super delegates and the delegates and 607 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the hanging chads, it's all like noise. It's like who 608 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: got the most votes? Thank you? Next. But I will 609 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: pivot back to the current news of the day, because 610 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: again that convention is still like, what like more than 611 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: a year away. President Trump. Switching to foreign policy, President 612 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: Trump says he got did you guys see this? Did 613 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: you see? President Trump says he got a quote unquote 614 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: beautiful beautiful letter from North Korea leader Kim Jong un, 615 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: but he's not ready for a meaning. The back and 616 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: forth correspondence for the history books between President Trump and 617 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Kim Jong un. It's gonna be remarkable. Adam, what do 618 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: you think of how I take it? I take it 619 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: you don't really like how President Trump has served as 620 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: commander in chief. That's that's a fair statement. So I 621 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: think we can all agree that no one of these 622 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: issues will likely make or break the election, right this 623 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: letters it all goes to Hamasket. Well, I mean that 624 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: would be a pretty big issue that I feel like 625 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: this fits into a pattern. The question really is if 626 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: this is a chapter what stories a chapter of And 627 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: what we see is a consistent pattern of Trump claiming 628 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: either pyrrhic victories to have no value, or victories in 629 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: solving a problem that he himself caused. Right, so when 630 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: he says, oh, we solve this Mexico tariff thing, um, 631 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: he caused that problem. When he says we're you know, 632 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: we're giving relief to farmers because of my tariffs, he 633 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: cut the problem right. When he says, you know, we're 634 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna stop the flow of immigration at the border 635 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: that's illegal. He's the one who pulled the rug out 636 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: of other countries and caused more people to want to 637 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: flee their own countries. And North Korea, you know he hasn't. 638 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: He's tried to water at best and caused problems diplomatically 639 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: giving them ground at worst. So I think that's the 640 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: larger story that Poters will get. This is an incompetent 641 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: president on foreign policy and domestic policy. And I fundamentally 642 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: disagree because I think the American people are smart enough 643 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: to understand when you say the President caused the problem 644 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: with Mexico and the tariffs, I don't think it was 645 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: a problem that he caused. It's a it's an action 646 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: that he took. There was no question, uh that we 647 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: have a burgeoning crisis on our border. Something has to 648 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: be done. And and this president, you know, the only 649 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: the only hand he had to play to get the 650 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Mexican government to act was to threaten tariffs. And that 651 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, they had this agreement in place. It was 652 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: it was they were dawdling around on implementing it, and 653 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: sure enough threatened the tariffs and the Mexicans are moving 654 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: now on you guys, we gotta leave it there. There's 655 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: never enough time. But I think this is a great 656 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: pan and we're gonna have both of you back if 657 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: it you'll come back. So Adam Green, he is the 658 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign commit Where are 659 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: You going to Iowa? With Warren Always There? And Matt Brooks, 660 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Republican strategist, Feel a Guy, Executive director of the Republican 661 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: Jewish Coalition. You can download the sound on podcast on 662 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the 663 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: business at find us on Radio dot com, I Heart 664 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: Radio and Spotify. I'm Kevin's really thanks to John Delaney 665 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Bloomberg. Yeah,