1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Then venue everyone and welcome into betting pros. It's time 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: to place your bets. It is me, Joey p joep 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Zapia and this is WWE Clash in Paris. That's right. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about the big event, the final 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: plee pay per view in peacock history, as things are 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: moving to ESPN for ww BOO. I don't care for that, 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna waste my time here today ranting 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: about it. Instead, we're gonna talk about some of the odds, 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: some of the picks, and the latest going on in 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: the WWE world as we head into a big international 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: event here. Last year, the Clash in Paris ple had 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: one of the hottest wrestling crowds you'll ever see. They've 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: gone back there. It was last year for I believe 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: was Backlash in twenty twenty four. It was pretty stunning. 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: It was incredible crowd, incredible volume. I'm looking forward to 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: it just for that. It should be a good time. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: One of John Cena's final international appearances as well. And 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: of course two of my very good friends here to 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: talk about all the con Man Tyler Connyam and the 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: man in Mourning Terrell Furman. Junior Terrell is dressed up 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: as a blue singer from the early seventies today because 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: he's a little upset that the Naomi run has come 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: to an early end for a very good reason. But 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Terrell. Are you upset because you know 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: you're not the father of the child perhaps, or are 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: you just upset now because Naomi's run is going to 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: be put on pause for at least a year or 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: maybe more here but a wonderful reason, Terrell. I know 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: you were in mourning, but you should be happy here 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: for Naomi. 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: To answer your earlier questions about fifty to fifty on 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: my emotions right now on how I feel. Last time 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: we were out here, Joe and we had this conversation. 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I came out here and I said, it was the 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: summer of Naomi, and it was that she was about 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: to go on a title run for the Masses, and 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: then Big Jim happened, and I am just so disappointed 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: that now I had to watch her relinquish that title twice. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: She was going to beat Stephanie Vaker, and that was 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: going to be such a resume defining win for her 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: to just go ahead and propel her to going out 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: and competing for the Crowd Jewel Championship. I can barely 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: even speak here. Competing for the Crown Jewel Championship and 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: then being able to potentially go on this incredible run 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: throughout the rest of the year taking her to WrestleMania 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: as champion because they strapped the rocket Ship order. Not 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: only did she beat Ria and EO once, she beat 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: them twice, she beat them twice. This is by far 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: one of the worst possible things that could have happened 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: on this run for multiple reasons. But I mean, it 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: was the summer of Naomi and now it's the summer 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: of Rio slash EO slash Stephanie slash everybody else. So 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: you know, look, I'm in mourning. 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Well we're lucky because the women's division is certainly looking 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: up recently with some of the the wrestlers like Stephanie 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: occur and you know, the Julias of the world, those 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: people coming in Tyler. You know we are going to 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: replace that match. It's not on the betting odds, but 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: we do get Becky and Nicki Bella, which, again the 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: verbal spar raw entertaining, well, the verbal sparring entertaining. I'm 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: not sure exactly. If I'm looking forward to the inn 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: ring match, so over under if you can bet it somewhere, 63 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: let's call it six and a half minutes for this match, 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: or do you want to go here, Tyler. 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: We're going to go under on that match, I think 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: for sure. And I did want to say I sympathize 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: a little bit with Terrell because back in the day 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: I had dreams about sunny days as well, and those 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: didn't come to fruition. And look how that story ended. 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: So you might have dodged the bullet with that one, Tyler. 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. In terms of Nicky Bella, and I was gonna say, 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Sonny and Becky Lynch, that's probably under six and a 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: half minutes as a replacement match, And if you can 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: find the betting odds, that is actually the one where 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: I think maybe we do see an upset there. If 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: you can get plus money on Nikki Bella, that might 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: be something to look at it could. 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can't. You'll certainly get a pop 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: from the crowd if that happens, but I mean, realistically speaking, 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. You can't. Can't really, but this 81 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: is all going to be about who's putting over Who today, 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's where this show is going to 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: be because you look at it, it's very shocky and 84 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: we could start here at the very top here with 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: John Cena and Logan Paul, who not that long ago 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: were actually in a tag team match if you recall, 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: and they were running the show together there for a 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: little while, teaming up in a losing effort money in 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: the bank that was back in June. Unfortunately that did 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: not work out for the two of them, and now 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: they are clashing in Paris as it were. But if 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: you're looking for the odds right now on this one, 93 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty heavy on the John Cena side minus sixteen 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: one hundred plus six hundred on Logan Paul. So Tyler. 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: For me, when I look at this, it's pretty obvious 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: that you give the international crowd that one big scene 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: of moment and put him over. It's not the greatest 98 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: idea to keep beating Logan Paul over and over again, 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: because when you keep beating him, he then becomes this 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: guy that it's basically like another version of the Miz 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: where you just set him up. There is this guy 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: where he's convenient to plug him in there, beat him 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: and then move on to something else, and then he 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: kind of loses credibility. Now, he's had some credibility in 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: the past because he's had the US Championship. He's had 106 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: some decent runs there. He had a very good match 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: against Roman Reigns that I think doesn't get enough credit 108 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: back a couple of years ago too. But as we 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: sit here, it is pretty difficult to make any other 110 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: argument besides John Zena going over in this one. I 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: think it would be better for business to put Logan 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: Poul over. But considering the crowd, the heat of this crowd, 113 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be, I can't see Scena not 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: coming out on top. What's your thoughts. 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Sena loses again until his final 116 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: match in December, if he even loses that one. My concern, 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, even though Logan Paul's had some good matches, 118 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: is Sina his match with Cody Roads at Wrestling he 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: was not great, and now he just had a five 120 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: star match with Cody. But the fear is this could 121 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: be a doozy of a match. Logan Paul is still 122 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: pretty green. He's got less than twenty matches under his belt. 123 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: Sena admittedly has lost a step or two. And if 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: this ends up being your main event, like it could 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: be a pretty big stinker. And in terms of winning, 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: you've already got John Cena advertised for Wreussell Palooza. There's 127 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: really no way he's going to lose to Logan Paul 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 3: because what really does that do for John Cena there? 129 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: So minus sixteen hundred you almost should bet it, because 130 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: I mean, minus ten thousand, you're probably guaranteed a Sina win. Here. 131 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: I want to say, it's got to either open or close. 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like you want to close with 133 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Sena but Terrell. Let's talk about this from that other 134 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: aspect as well, because now that he is a face again, 135 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: everybody wants to cheer him. You want the big high moment. 136 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: I think he goes back. Well, that's what I said. 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: You know, That's the point I'm making, which is, you know, 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Sena is a traditionalist at his core. He is the 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of guy that I think will go out on 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: his back, go out on the shield, go out on 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: his sword, basically, and at the end of things, and 142 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: this could be the beginning of that of trying to 143 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: put some guys over on the way out because it's 144 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: not gonna tarnish his legacy. I did enjoy the verbal 145 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: altercation between the two of them, because Sina absolutely cooked. 146 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Logan Paul is very entertaining. You've been doing this for 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: what twenty three matches and I've been doing it for 148 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: twenty three years and all that stuff, and that's fun. 149 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: But Terrell, I mean, do you want to make a 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: case here for a wild card ban on Logan Paul 151 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: plus six hundred? 152 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you look at John Cena here, and I 153 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: mean going through a table, just randomly turned them back 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: face again, and so now he's legit face and then 155 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: we have the brock Lesner and all this other stuff 156 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: going on. But we have to remember they're throwing a 157 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: bunch of smoke and mirrors at you right now. And 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: I want everybody to remember that John Cena as a 159 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: face has not won a singles match since twenty eighteen. 160 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen Royal Rumble at that, so the top 161 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen, John Cena has not won a singles 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: match as a face. The only way he could get 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: wins was by turning heel, by cheating. He could not 164 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: win a singles match as a face. Even the elimination chamber, 165 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: he didn't even win on his own merit. It was 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: because of seth rawlins. He can't do it on his own. 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: And so you're telling me that Logan Paul has twenty matches, 168 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: and he does. He's doing all of this stuff and 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: he's the quote unquote kind of eight streamer in the 170 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: WWE right now. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I think he can 171 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: beat John Cena because again, Johnsena hasn't proven it to 172 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: us in this situation since twenty eighteen. He had his 173 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: first match as a face in a long time against 174 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: Cody Ruse in a street fight, which is a great match, 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: and guess what he lost. 176 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the reason why the match with 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes was so good is because we took it 178 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: out of the confines of the regular match, right. You 179 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: took it out of the squad circle. You made it, 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, a street fight match, which is gonna be 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: way better. So it's gonna allow them to do their 182 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: big spots, recover, have those moments you know in between 183 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: the ropes there for seeing at his age is not 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: going to be great. Now, what Logan Paul brings is 185 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: that giant athleticism, that big spot fearlessness. That's probably gonna 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: happen too, So it should be interesting to see. Like 187 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: I said, it would not shock me Trell if what 188 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: you're saying is true and Sena is now going to 189 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: get on the trail of putting guys over on the 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: way out, I definitely think that last match, whoever it 191 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: is against, he will put over. I feel like it's 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be against Rollins. Why wouldn't it be right? Let 193 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: mean go one more time for the championships, even get 194 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: it back and do that now. There is one other 195 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: way that we could see Logan Paul potentially come out victorious, 196 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: and that's if brock Lesner should show up again. He 197 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: had a big pop internationally for brock Lesnar. He hasn't 198 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: been out there in those international streets in a long time. 199 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: If he should somehow cost John Cena, this match continues. 200 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: That feud keeps Logan Paul looking strong. There's no way 201 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a cheering, happy moment at the 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: end for John Cena when he walks out of the ring. 203 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: That could be a great way to make money here 204 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: plus six hundred. What do you think of that scenario? Here, Tyler, 205 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: we'll start with you. 206 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I think we're gonna get that brock 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: Lesner versus John Cena matchups at some point. Crown Jewel 208 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: seems like it might be a good spot to do that. 209 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: Perhaps you'd at wressell Palooza, which I've heardau they want 210 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: to counter WWE's or sorry Aw's all out pay per view. 211 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: So this does give you that avenue where Logan Paul 212 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: can run around like a heel and say I beat 213 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: John Cena. I beat John Cena, but John Cena doesn't really, 214 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: you know, eat the loss because brock Lesnar costs him 215 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: the match. 216 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: It's the more I think about this, the more I 217 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: think this is very possible. The only thing is do 218 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: you want to repeat what you just did, which is 219 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: the brock Lesnar big moment coming out? Does Triple H 220 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: want to go to that well twice throw? 221 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he might have to because while 222 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: we were talking, I went back to look at the 223 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: dates left because Johnsen has told us this entire time, 224 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: we only have a certain amount of dates left after 225 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: clashing pairs. You have the next SmackDown, you've got raw 226 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: ten days after that, and then you got Russell Paluza. 227 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: After Russell Paluza, he has three dates left Crown Jewel 228 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: Survivor Series and the retirement match. Where else can you 229 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: build this few at He's only got a couple of 230 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: dates on the main roster left. Where else do you 231 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: build this few that? It's got to be here before 232 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Russell Paluza. It just seems like we're making some type 233 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: of push towards brock Lessener and John Cena in Indianapolis 234 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: at Wressell Paluza to thecount counteract what aw has going on, 235 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: which would be huge. I mean there's I'm not the 236 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: biggest I'm not the biggest uh brock Lessner guy, but 237 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: a lot of Playboo love Block Lesner, and so that 238 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: would be a big draw away from AW. So Yeah, 239 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: potential brock Lessner interference and given Logan Paul the wayn 240 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: that could potentially happen. 241 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's get to the next one here, speaking of seth Rawlins, 242 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: he is a heavy favorite in the four way Dance. 243 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Here we've got seth Rawlins minus three thousand, La Night 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: Yeah plus six hundred, cm Punk plus eight hundred the 245 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: best in the world, and j Uso plus nine hundred 246 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: this is a four way dance for the World Heavyweight Championship. Terrell, 247 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you on this one. There's no 248 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: way seth Rawlins drops this belt after doing what he 249 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: just did. So the only question for me is who 250 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: eats the pin here? And I think it's jay Uso. 251 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: Do you think no shot Seth Rollins drops the title 252 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: after doing that as SummerSlam, No way. Plus, they need 253 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: that big money heel, that big money heal with the 254 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: title that can go up against a large face, And 255 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: I just feel like that we're building because the Crown 256 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Jewel Championship doesn't mean anything to me, to be honest 257 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: me as a viewer, it means nothing. But in terms 258 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: of planning a big match, a random really big match 259 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: title versus title, you gotta have some type of storyline 260 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: with that. Well, what's better than the storyline of Cody 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: Rhodes going against Seth Rollins in this heel of the 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: vision seth Rollins right now? For that Crown Jewel Championship 263 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: that they're trying to make this some big thing that 264 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna respect, then you got to give us a 265 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: legit match for it. So I think that's the best 266 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: match for that, which requires Seth Rollins to win. Now 267 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: who eats the pen? I mean, la, I thought it 268 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: was gonna be l A Knight. I'm not gonna lie, 269 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: but l A Knight had a long, long Monday night wrong. 270 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you can do that 271 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: to at this point too, I don't think you can. 272 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: I think I think you're gonna bury long. 273 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: He had a long Monday night raw and then also 274 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: like he kind of got jobbed out of the match 275 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: with Sept in the first place. I don't think they 276 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: do him like that. I wouldn't be surprised to see 277 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: him pump, to be honest, I think at Seth Rollins 278 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: pinning se him pump adds more fuel to the fire. 279 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: And again everybody is trying to write off the CM 280 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: Punk and Seth Rollins feud. Please stop doing this, Please 281 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: stop doing this. But when have we ever stopped a 282 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: feud on two matches? Again, We've never stopped a feud 283 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: on two matches. We've always got trilogy, so so come on, 284 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: we gotta finish it out here. I think that if 285 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: it's Punk getting pinned, yeah, jay Us feels like the 286 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: easy answer. But if Punk gets pined. It gives more 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: fuel to the fire to getting that third match against 288 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Punk Robins maybe at WrestleMania. So I think that is 289 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: gonna be pumped taking a pin here, Tyler. 290 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'm not sick 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: of the CM Punk Seth Rowlins feud. I think there's 292 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: there's an undercurrent. I think they actually, probably this juncture, 293 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: are probably pretty good relationship. But it shows that like 294 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: whatever that spark is, the hap between him, it still 295 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: works for me. So I'm with Terrell. There's no way 296 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: that Seth Rollins drops it. I think it's a matter 297 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: of who eats the pin. It's not La Knight, so 298 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: it's Punk or it's So. I think it's jay Us. 299 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: So what do you think? 300 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: I think I side with Terrell on this. I think 301 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: jay Us. So it was only eight months ago that 302 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: he won the Royal Rumble, He's already lost the title. 303 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: He gets pinned here again. It's sort of like you 304 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: know you when you watch the Netflix show Unreal, Triple 305 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: H talks about strapping a rocket to him and he 306 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: asks him if he can handle it. I think he 307 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: has handled it pretty well. Then you have him lose again. 308 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, it doesn't do much for 309 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: his character there. While I do agree with CM punk, 310 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: they're really trying to make him this white meat baby face. 311 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: Maybe that means that they're going to turn Cody heel 312 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: down the road, and CM punk has just fit that 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: role pretty well. I think if he gets pinned here, 314 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't hurt his character all that much. In terms 315 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: of being sick of the matchup, I'm kind of sick 316 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: of seeing seth Rawlins paired with Cody and with CM 317 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: punk at this point, he wrestled Cody for essentially his 318 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: first two years back. Maybe there's something down the line 319 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: of Seth against Roman reigns, But I would like to 320 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: see Seth come out of this feud with cmpunk, come 321 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: out of this feud with Cody Rhodes. But I don't 322 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: know where CM punk goes after this. If it's not 323 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: seth Rawlins or it's not the title. 324 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think the only other answer is Roman in Punk, 325 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: because I think that's that's got some They just seized 326 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: it on Monday, and they did tease it on. 327 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: Month and it's been unfinished for a while, and. 328 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: It's unfinished, and you had that three way match with 329 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: them at WrestleMania, and there's definitely more in that powder 330 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: keg And look at that's credit to the Cempunk, right, 331 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: They've they planted a lot of seeds with Punk there 332 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: over the years. I look, I think there's a lot 333 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: left with Cody and Punk. Personally, I think there's a 334 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: little bit left of the tank with Seth and Punk 335 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: that you can get us through the end of the year, 336 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: but then you want a fresh start, and I think 337 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: it's I would be shocked if this wasn't the CM 338 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Punk winning the Royal Rumble. I think it's either Punk 339 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: of Roman Reigns winning the Rumble this year. I don't 340 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: think it's another way. We'll see what that is. And 341 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: if it's Roman reigns and ends up choosing Seth, rawlins 342 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: and that's kind of fun too at the end the day, 343 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: because we've already seen Cody and Roman a few times 344 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: now and it's been great. Don't get me wrong. Do 345 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: I want to see the third one? Not yet. I 346 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: don't think I'm there quite yet. 347 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: Oh well, the torn Peck cage match, So why try, right? 348 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but Roman Roman Cody pretty damn good. 349 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: The two times Roman as the face. Cody is the heel. 350 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: That's the next that's the next way. 351 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Yes, but like that's not yet. 352 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be a wow, it's gonna your. 353 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Face still has legs, and you know what, you need 354 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: him because right now there's just not a lot of 355 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: believable faces in the company right now, Like you've got 356 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: the Gunthers and Seth Rollins has got a heel stable 357 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: and you know, Roman's almost a tweener in somebody. The 358 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: crowd loves him. 359 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: But like character you know, I hate I hate pure 360 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: baby faces, believe it or not, I really do. I 361 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: like the Roman, but I like when Cody shows that 362 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: that aggressive side, like when he was going after seeing 363 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: it and he shows that, he shows that, hey, no 364 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: there's a dark side. So this baby face like, yes, 365 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: everybody has a dark site. Stop trying to play. 366 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: That's what allows him. You nailed it to all, because 367 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: that's what allows Cody to stay at this babyface level 368 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: because he's not a babyface pushover. He will get down 369 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: and dirty and ugly sometimes character wise and stylistically in 370 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: the ring that match with aj styles, which is kind 371 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: of actually been the backlash of Paris, right, I want 372 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: to say why he wasn't that where it was last year? 373 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: That was a great example of hey, you know what, 374 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: like we can we can make this work, this can 375 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: this can roll here, let's get to speaking of the 376 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: tribal chief. Let's throw the ones up for him here. 377 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: Roman Rains versus Bronson read another heavy, heavy Roman Reins 378 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: favorite minus six fifty bronze and red plus three seventy five. 379 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: Again tee, I don't see any other way out of this, 380 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: but Roman Rains do you see it differently? 381 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't see this is the part because I didn't 382 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: realize that a lot of people didn't understand how disrespectful 383 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: this feud has been. But just so you eyes know, 384 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: if somebody takes their shoes off of you after like 385 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: fighting you, knocking you out, they take your shoes off you, 386 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: that's like the utmost disrespect. I was watching Bully Ray 387 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: podcast and he was like, I didn't even understand like 388 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: the meaning of that, what that was like as soon 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: as I saw it the first. 390 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Time, whoa ho, bro I grew up in Brooklyn where 391 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: kids sneakers were thrown over telephone wires. Okay, yeah, don't 392 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: think that that's lost on me. All right, I don't 393 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: know what you grew. 394 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 395 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know where Bully Ray was at. 396 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: But that was like when I saw that, I was like, oh, 397 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: Bronson is getting a feud with Roman, Like you can't 398 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: take his shoes and not get a feud. And now 399 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: he has two. Now he's walking around as the tribal thief. 400 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: Now he's doing all of that. I mean somebody. When 401 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: he likes somebody, he straps a rocket ship to him, 402 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: just like Triple A said. And he is giving Brunson 403 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: every opportunity. Doesn't mean he's gonna take the pin here, 404 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: but I mean this is gonna be a great match. 405 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: I think that it's going to showcase Brunson reed and 406 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: the destructive power that is Bruston Reed. And I think 407 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna be something where they're like, hey, Brunton Bee 408 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: was actually closer in this match than people think. Like, 409 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't just gonna be some type of squash match 410 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: for Brunson and rum and Rains getting his shoes back. 411 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: So that's that's what I think it is. I think 412 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: it's Rum and Rains. I think it's gonna be close, 413 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: but of course is rumming in the end, and it's 414 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a very, very entertaining match, and I'm really 415 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: happy for Bronston Reed for getting this opportunity. 416 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: Look, Ki, I agree with Terrell. I think this is 417 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: the sleeper match on the card in terms of amusement 418 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: that actually has a chance to really pay off. Bronson 419 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Reed too, since he come back for the injury to 420 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: a slimmed and trimmed Bronson Reed, who is much lighter 421 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: on his feet. He always had the power, he always 422 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: had that agility, especially for a guy his size. But Tyler, 423 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I think it's the quickness now that you see from 424 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: him in the ring, now that he is a little 425 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: bit more, you know, size down, thick boy wise, still 426 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: still thick, still big boy, but moving at a different pace. 427 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I think, and I think this this could be the 428 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: highlight of this show potentially. 429 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this should be a great match. Bronson 430 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: Reid is look great. It's a big spot for him 431 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: in Roman reigns. I feel like, maybe not so much anymore, 432 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: but in the past he got a lot of criticism 433 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: for not being a great wrestler. He's a great wrestler 434 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: and he's got great ring psychology. He knows how to 435 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: tell a story when you have all sort of the 436 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: outside interference that could come into it, and you're write 437 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: about the shoes. I think it was Game that said 438 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: they tried to kill me from my Airmax ninety five's. 439 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: It's a real thing, right, So I don't know anybody 440 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: wins this. I'm a documentary in two thousand and four. 441 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: In my discman, that was a good one. I think 442 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: that this probably doesn't end in a pinfall, certainly not 443 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: a submission. This might be something where there's some outside 444 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: interference at DQ. We've got Wressel Palooza, We've got Crown Jewel, 445 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: We've got Saturday Night's main event. There is a lot 446 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: coming down where I don't think this feud necessarily ends here. 447 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: So I don't think anybody gets the fin now. 448 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, there is one match 449 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: there from a betting perspective, we saved the best for 450 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: last year that I think you could actually wager on 451 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: russev Vershe miss any good old fashioned donn a Brook match. 452 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: That's much We're Joan Hair with Seamus, Seamus and the 453 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Donney Brook. That's what we're gonna do. Uh and we'll 454 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: see if he loses Lucky Charms. I think he does. 455 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: I think Roossev at minus one sixty five, this you 456 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: can actually bet. I don't see any scenario where Seamus 457 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: should win this match. I don't care where it is 458 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: internationally speaking. It's in France, so it doesn't if this 459 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: was in Scotland, I might feel different. If it was 460 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: in Ireland, I might feel different. It was the United Kingdom, 461 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: I might feel different somewhere, but it's not. It's in France. 462 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: And Rousev needs a big w on a big show 463 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: if we're going to build him up to being a 464 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: formidable force yet again in this division. Because I gotta 465 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: tell you since he's come back from aw it's been 466 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of lackluster, Tyler. 467 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: It's been lackluster since he left WWE the first time. 468 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: He didn't really ever do much in AW. 469 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: No. There was a short time in that Redeemer character 470 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: that was really good and they just didn't do it right. 471 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: But the character work was really good and he had 472 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: some good matches, but it lasted like what three months, 473 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I feel. 474 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, and it was a very bizarre, like his 475 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: wife came in for a while and they got divorced 476 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: and then they got back together, and then there's rumors 477 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: that he doesn't want to lose to anybody or who knows. 478 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I agree. I mean, I feel 479 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: like Seamus is kind of at that part of his 480 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: career where he's going to eat a lot more pins 481 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: than not. They're not haven't really done anything with Seamus 482 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: in a long time, aside from put him in tag teams, 483 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: whether it was with Claudio Cizarro, Pete Dunn, those types 484 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: of things. So I think this is a good spot 485 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: for Rusev to start. I feel like that redeemer character 486 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: WW does kind of like to, you know, reuse that 487 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: character if they get it going in aw and I 488 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: think this is a good spot for him to really 489 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: if he beats the crap out of Shamous in a 490 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: match like this, I think it really does elevate that 491 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: scariness of him that he can move on to, whether 492 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: it's a US title or an Intercontinental title, few going forward. 493 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Tourell, I think the personal relationship between these two, they're 494 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: very close friends, right, So I think Shamus does Rucev 495 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: a solid here, puts them over in a big spot. 496 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: What do you think? 497 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he puts them over to it. And 498 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: as really I've now, I've been very critical of Triplah 499 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: in the booking very recently, but I actually understand the 500 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: Recep booking because you really just don't have anything else 501 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: you can really do with him right now. I mean, 502 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: the show he's on is pure heels in all the 503 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: championship roles. There's nothing he can go after that can 504 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: make sense, and so it's kind of, Hey, we're biding time. 505 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna give him this feud until we start positioning 506 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: one of our faces in a championship, and then we 507 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: start to put him against them and they have a 508 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: little bit of a feud there. So I think they're 509 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: just killing time for Rusev, and the only way to 510 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: kill time for him is to make sure that he 511 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: comes on the top of this feud and it builds 512 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: for maybe an Aj Recev Intercontinental Championship feud, maybe Aj 513 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: finally gets to win for the Intercontina Championship, or whoever 514 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: it may be. But at some point they're just waiting 515 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: for Dom. I think they're waiting for Dom to be 516 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: done with his run with the title. Maybe it's a 517 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: live return or anything like that. Whenever that does actually happen, 518 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: and then Russev is now in contention as a top 519 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 2: heel on the Raw brand for the Intercontinental Championship. That 520 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: all starts with the win here in pairs. So I 521 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: like rusaid with the dope. 522 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: You've got four and a half months to build Ruscev 523 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: up to somebody worth watching before we get to Roy 524 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Rumble season. So you gotta do it, and it starts now. 525 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: This is a big pay per view, big spot here. 526 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: But what are your picks? Drop them below. Clash and 527 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Paris is happening this weekend. 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