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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: My favorite time of the year outside of the football

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Speaker 1: season is NFL Free agency and NFL Draft and we

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Speaker 1: gotta trade today. Just came down ten minutes ago live

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Mark feu Gunzaga basketball coach stopping by today.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks away from March Madness. So we

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Speaker 1: had a huge trade one minute before yesterday show between

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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Chiefs. We've got another one. Just

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Speaker 1: came down Bears and the Buffalo Bills. So everybody has

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Speaker 1: been throwing shade at Brandon being the GM of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I like the move. He just got DJ Moore wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: a number one ride receiver, who never misses starts. The

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Speaker 1: dude hasn't missed a start in like five years. Dj

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Speaker 1: Moore worked with Joe Brady, the head coach, the new

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Bills in Carolina, and he had

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Speaker 1: his best year. So Dj Moore is absolutely a number one.

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Speaker 1: The Bills drafted Luther Burden and Roman Dunza, and they've

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Speaker 1: got Colston Lovelin and two backs, so Chicago doesn't need

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Speaker 1: They gotta start getting ready. They may have to make

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Speaker 1: another move here, Max Crosby maybe need some cap space.

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Speaker 1: But now Buffalo, Buffalo's got their quarterback, they're running back,

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Speaker 1: their left tackle, slot receiver, excellent tight ends. Now they've

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Speaker 1: got their number one. So if keon Coleman, you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows, Maybe he works, maybe he doesn't. Takes wide

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Speaker 1: receivers a while to work themselves into, you know, high

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Speaker 1: end luxury play. If he works, great, If he doesn't, fine,

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Speaker 1: But look at Buffalo's offense, and they're gonna give up

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Speaker 1: mid round pick, probably give up like a four. But

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Speaker 1: this is a move I like. Then it also creates clarity.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo can now use all their picks on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side because they've got slot perimeter young receiver, quarterback that

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Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt much, left tackle, running back tight ends

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Speaker 1: their set. Nice move and the Bears little cap relieve here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe big game hunting. And I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: that because the Rams yesterday gave up another first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Now they still have one left. But they have traded

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Speaker 1: nine of their last ten first round picks. Yet their

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl favorites. Yet they have the second most playoff

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Speaker 1: wins outside of Kansas City in the last eight years,

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Speaker 1: only one losing season. How do they do it? How

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Speaker 1: is it possible? Deepest roster next to Seattle in the league,

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Speaker 1: maybe Philadelphia? How do they do it? In that same

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Speaker 1: time period, the Jets have had twelve first round picks,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders have had eleven, and they both stink. It's

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Speaker 1: not that the Rams undervalue picks, but is it possible

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league mostly overvalues picks. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this with Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fall in love with

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Speaker 1: their picks. They don't spend much money in free agency.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys draft somebody, then they pay them, and they

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Speaker 1: often pay them two or three times. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: There are just many ways to be great in this league.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks do it through the draft and then go

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Speaker 1: small game hunting. The Rams get a lot of picks

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Speaker 1: in the mid rounds like Pooka and Kyron Williams, and

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Speaker 1: then they go big game hunting. Dvonte, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie yesterday. It's not like the Rams are giving

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Speaker 1: a the first round picks for nothing. They got Goff, Jalen, Ramsey, McDuffie,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, so they're getting something for it. But success

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Speaker 1: and excellence in the NFL once again, is not just

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Speaker 1: one framework. You know, it cracks me up when you

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Speaker 1: go on TikTok. It's like, here's how to solve your liver.

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Speaker 1: Here's how to absolutely invest this will guarantee a longer life.

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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of grifters. There's a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 1: Some people have good genetics, some people have bad genetics.

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Speaker 1: Some people eat like crap and look great at sixty.

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Speaker 1: There's no one way to do anything. Hell, Tim Burton

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Speaker 1: the Rams do it one way. They're trading the first

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Speaker 1: rounder the Buffalo Bills just went out and took a

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Speaker 1: big swing. I would say this for the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: I think part of moving Dj Moore is open up

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Speaker 1: space for Max cro Max Crosby is so much better

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Speaker 1: I'm not against or four trading first round picks, but

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Speaker 1: it's funny about this, and we've said this before, is

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Speaker 1: that you know, everybody likes their president that they vote for, right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody hates senators except sometimes their own. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: all that way. So people loved Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time at the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: He wants to average twelve free throws a game. Nobody

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Speaker 1: complained three times. Kobe Bryant averaged ten free throws a game.

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Speaker 1: Nobody complained about it. KD He Crickets he averaged early

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Speaker 1: in his career over ten free throws a game. Crickets.

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Speaker 1: His game is fluid, it's clean, catch him, shoot fits everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But people are really up in arms because Sga shoots

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Speaker 1: a lot of free throws. But he's shooting last night

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Speaker 1: two in the fourth quarter. That was it two. And

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Speaker 1: I've never heard a guy get more flak for shooting

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Speaker 1: two in the fourth quarter. Here's Nick's coach in a loss,

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Speaker 1: very good game on Sga.

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Speaker 4: One of the areas, obviously, is the free throw line.

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Speaker 4: You know SGA is, he's a tough cover, and he

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Speaker 4: than anybody in the league that you know, he's getting hit.

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Speaker 1: So what people in the NBA are trying to convince

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Speaker 1: me of is that either the league's rigging it for

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Speaker 1: a skinny kid who's not very verbal from a tiny market. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see that's what Adam Silver wants. Let's have our powerhouse

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Speaker 1: be in our smallest market. Or you're trying to convince

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Speaker 1: me that the refs on a nightly basis all get

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Speaker 1: fooled and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go there.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have Shack's power or Lebron's body or

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Speaker 1: You have to manipulate and you have to find your game.

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Speaker 1: He's a wiry six six a buck ninety five. So

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Speaker 1: for the record six six and a buck, iway buck

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Speaker 1: ninety five and I'm six one and a half. He's thin.

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Speaker 1: In a pro athlete league, he does get bumped a lot.

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Speaker 1: So and also, I think when you don't have certain

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Speaker 1: you're not doing tomahawk slams T Brady. Why was he

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Speaker 1: so good pre snap? Same with Drew Brees and Payton

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Speaker 1: think the truth about this with SGA is you don't

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Speaker 1: like his game. You love Michael's game, you love Kobe's game,

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Speaker 1: and they lived at the free throw line. You just

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Speaker 1: don't like his game. It's not flashy, it's not fun

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Speaker 1: to watch, right, and it's not. But I mean Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: You know what I look at SGA. You know what

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Speaker 1: I see? I see a football player. I say, I

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Speaker 1: see JSN the wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Neither

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Speaker 1: are truly gifted ATHLETICALLYGA JSN both though can manipulate coverage,

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Speaker 1: both ascending statistically every year they get better, So they

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Speaker 1: clearly work on their craft work, ethic, manipulation. I qeq

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Speaker 1: that's what I see. Jsn's always open and SGA often

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Speaker 1: gets to the free throw line. How how do they

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Speaker 1: do it? Because they're smart guys, and they use their

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Speaker 1: body and they manipulate other players. When you don't have

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Speaker 1: major hops, you don't worry about getting in the air.

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Speaker 1: You worry about getting other people in the air. So

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Speaker 1: SGA does a great job to compromise defenders. And for

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Speaker 1: the record, SGA's game is very unique. It fooled the

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Speaker 1: Clippers front office. They gave him away. He was only

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Speaker 1: the number eleven draft pick. So this guy's been fooling

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Speaker 1: the league and trigging the league and making defensive players,

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Speaker 1: putting them in compromising spots. Let's give him credit. It's

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Speaker 1: not about the refs, it's not about the whistle. The

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Speaker 1: Clippers good front office didn't see it. First ten picks

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Speaker 1: He's arguably the best player out of that draft, but

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Speaker 1: I we you know, we love to do that. For

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Speaker 1: the record, I just I want to show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying SGA didn't have style here. He was

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Speaker 1: after the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, late game, they were like sitting a lot of doubles,

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Speaker 5: and I just felt like I ain't got a shot

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Speaker 5: tried to just like a screen game. So I tried

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Speaker 1: By the way, why does some things look so good

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Speaker 1: on some people and so bad on other people? That

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Speaker 1: jacket just would not work with me at all. But

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Speaker 1: SGA pulls it off, just like he pulls off getting

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Speaker 1: to the free throw line about seven, eight nine times

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Speaker 1: a game, or two times in the fourth quarter last night.

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Speaker 1: Let's give him credit and JSN credit for getting open.

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Speaker 1: It's not about the refs deciding we want this kind

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Speaker 1: of quiet guy, skinny guy that's not vertical in tiny

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma city to dominate the league. That's not it. So Jmak,

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, everybody crapped on their GM, Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 1: We also have to be fair. If you look at

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Speaker 1: Buffalo this morning, you can look at Baltimore and have

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Speaker 1: questions about Lamar's deal. You can look at Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and ask are they the third best team in the division.

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Speaker 1: You look at Buffalo's offense, new stadium, Weather's going to

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Speaker 1: be a little better, not as windy now they had

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Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver. I'd feel pretty good if

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Speaker 1: I was a Bills fan.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a big move, especially when you

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Speaker 3: combine it with the Patriots losing Stefon Diggs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at the Patriots wide receiver room now and

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Speaker 3: they need a guy aj Brown out there on the market.

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Speaker 3: But I think djmore really good get for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bears don't lose much when you consider

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Speaker 3: Luther Burton, Romadunze.

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Speaker 6: The tight end situation.

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Speaker 3: So I think this is actually one of those rare

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Speaker 3: good deals for both teams.

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Speaker 1: Great Rates none of the bull. So the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: All right, God, let's start with this Dj Moore trade.

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Speaker 3: It's weird like they announced. You know, these reporters are

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Speaker 6: We got a trade. We don't even know what the

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Speaker 3: it's a good move for Buffalo adding a top tier receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's also a lot of that's because the

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Speaker 3: Now, the only thing with Buffalo, let's remember that game

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Speaker 6: So I like it. I'm just curious what the Bears

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Speaker 3: So we like their receivers, right, Burden and a Jense

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think Chicago and Buffalo have to

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the next story. Sticky

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize this. He's thirty two years old. This

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Speaker 1: You know he was he was he a problem this

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Speaker 1: Well what do I do off the field?

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Speaker 3: Well, he got in trouble with the law and he's got,

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Speaker 6: I think that's almost too obvious at this point, right.

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Speaker 3: People are speculating, maybe they throw a hail Mary. They've

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Speaker 6: The rookie deal. Do they go after Pierce to stretch

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Speaker 1: I like Pierce a lot. I think that's a good call.

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Speaker 3: So the problem is the numbers that are being thrown

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Speaker 3: He was fantastic with Daniel Jones throwing the deep ball.

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Speaker 1: I think if I honestly think the young receivers for

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Speaker 1: They're only they got to a super Bowl with a

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I totally forgot this.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the Patriots were rumored to have made a

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Speaker 6: Will be awesome. Yeah, we know he's very talented.

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Speaker 6: The rookie deal.

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colin Is Baseball Team USA. Yep, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: they're just hammering teams. Beat the Giants fifteen to one,

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Speaker 6: In exhibition play.

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Speaker 3: They took on Brazil tomorrow at eight eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 6: South Korea beat check G eleven to four.

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Speaker 3: In Australia shutout Chinese type three zero. Obviously, everybody's fired

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Speaker 3: up to see Otani tomorrow morning, five am Eastern on FS.

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Speaker 1: I think this was a smart buy by US. I'll

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Speaker 1: in an Olympic year. This is a winter Olympic year.

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Speaker 1: People are into the patriotism. I think people will enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: I bet this does better than people think. I think

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you got the big names, right, Judge Otani,

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Speaker 3: You got Bryce, Bryce Harper, Yeah, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. We had Rick Patino on yesterday and he

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Speaker 1: And he's like, listen, you got to adapt. He goes,

434
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: I've got guys from Ghana and Europe, he's got five continents,

435
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: and you still have amazing energy. And I think, knowing

436
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: you a little bit, I think one of the things

437
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: you're good is adaptability. So and Patino kind of laughed

438
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: at it. He was like, I got so many European players.

439
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Give me if I said to you, over the last

440
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: three years, mark you've had to make You've had to

441
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: adapt with something with the nil and transfer port. What

442
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 1: is the one thing you've had to totally adapt to?

443
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, great job of kissing up to

444
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 8: the bosses and name dropping in the last you know,

445
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 8: forty five seconds, mission accomplished. Well, awesome question. Hard to

446
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 8: maybe say the one thing, you know? I would say

447
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 8: kind of the you know, as you know, following us

448
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 8: all these years, we red shirt guys and we I'm

449
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 8: in our program three four or five yep, years and

450
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 8: that was the standard, right and now kind of looking around,

451
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 8: I got a bunch of one year guys that are

452
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 8: either freshmen or transfers, and maybe a two year.

453
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 10: Guy here and there.

454
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 8: But yeah, just the general continuity in college basketball. And

455
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 8: that could be you know, also due to guys leaving

456
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 8: early for the NBA and all that. But that's been

457
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 8: the hardest thing, I think, is just always fighting for

458
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 8: your culture even though like you're looking around and like

459
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 8: you got to explain it to these guys, yeah, you know,

460
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 8: and they haven't experienced it yet.

461
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, your front court scoring is big this year,

462
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: not as much in the back court. And when I

463
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: think of Gonzaga I kind of always think of balance

464
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: from the bench on. But it feels like to me,

465
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of your scoring this year is front court

466
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: instead of backcourt. Does that you know everybody talks about

467
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: guard playing the tournament. Does that concern you at all?

468
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah it does.

469
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 8: And our backcourt play has been you know, spectacular.

470
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 10: At times and then not so spectacular at times, and

471
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 10: so it does.

472
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 8: But you know, I think back to your point about adaptability.

473
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 8: I think, you know, over the years, we've been front

474
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 8: core dominated, we've been backcourt dominated.

475
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 10: We've been great balance dominated.

476
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 8: If you think of that twenty one team, and you know,

477
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 8: this year we got a fantastic interior player and grahamy K.

478
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 8: We had two of them with Braydon Huff and grahamy K.

479
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 8: I think that probably Colin been the biggest story to

480
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 8: us this year. We've never faced the level of adversity

481
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 8: via injuries that we have this year. I mean, Braydon

482
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 8: Huff's the National Caliber Award guy and for him to

483
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 8: be out this long than we've lost Jalen Worley and.

484
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 10: We even lost Ek for a while, yep. So it's

485
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 10: been really strange.

486
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: Patino was saying yesterday with the NIL bringing kids from

487
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Europe over that he doesn't remember college basketball being this

488
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: deep and strong. I watched Michigan last Friday play Illinois.

489
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: It's like an NBA. They're huge. You guys played them

490
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: and got kind of rolled. I mean, I don't sure

491
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: how you prepare for them. What did you make of

492
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Michigan the odds on favorite.

493
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 10: Well, they were terrific tonight we played them.

494
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 8: They The one thing they did that night that I

495
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 8: think is they're just their slightest little hiccup in their

496
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 8: you know team, and it's not really even a hiccup.

497
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 10: But they shot the ball extremely well.

498
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 8: They shot the cover off against us, and Dust even

499
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 8: said so afterwards. But their size, you're so right, is

500
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 8: I mean, it's NBA level size quite frankly, with the

501
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 8: bodies and everything they're playing. You know, Luxembourg at the three,

502
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 8: you know, and he's probably six' nine to fifty or

503
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 8: something and great size around the, rim great, plan moved

504
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 8: the ball really. Well they were spectacular in transition back.

505
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 8: Then and, again you, know in that, game you're three

506
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 8: games and three. Days you don't really have a whole

507
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 8: lot of time to prepare for. Him the teams in

508
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 8: their league have starting to kind of game plan for

509
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 8: him a little.

510
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 10: Bit they're.

511
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 8: Good, tommy my old, Assistant Tommy lloyd's having a great

512
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 8: year At. Arizona they're, very very. Good there's some really

513
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 8: really nice teams out there for. You when we get totally,

514
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 8: HEALTHY i think we can compete with any of, them you.

515
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 8: Know but in the, MEANTIME i give this group a

516
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 8: lot of.

517
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 10: Credit.

518
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 8: Man we've just been hanging in there and winning, games

519
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 8: even though we've been down some pretty key.

520
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Personnel by the, WAY i was thinking about you the

521
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: other day Because shryshewsky put you In. Beheim you, know

522
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: you guys were The olympic. Coaches you guys have Always

523
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: you And beheim are close And beeheim got a lot of.

524
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Crap But i'll say this For. Beheim he Leaves. Syracuse

525
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: well what happened To syracuse? There AND i asked you

526
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: once About john Kla perry and you're, like, you, guys

527
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: he's a great. Coach it's funny that people get certain

528
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: labels in. Coaching and now all you college, GUYS i

529
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: think college feels a little more role with all the international.

530
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Stuff has it changed you as a coach dealing sometimes

531
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: there's language. BARRIERS a lot of The european guys aren't

532
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: used To they're not as good, Defensively patino, said some

533
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: of these guys couldn't guard. Me has it changed you

534
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: as a?

535
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 10: Coach?

536
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 8: NO i, MEAN i THINK i hate to just you,

537
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 8: know as you, know just throw out stereotypes and. Generalize you,

538
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 8: Know Uh sabonis was a, fierce fierce uh tough as they. Come.

539
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 8: Uh you, know Guy ernowski, was you, know he made

540
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 8: his big impact on the defensive end as anybody might

541
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 8: even Been Defensive player of The year and that year

542
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 8: he should have. Been. Uh so you, know it's it's

543
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 8: it's it's uh an, individual the, INDIVIDUAL i would, say

544
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 8: having done and have all the great experiences WITH usa,

545
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 8: basketball the uh this this high turnover, rate uh to

546
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 8: what you, said the, adaptability the, boy you sure learn

547
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 8: from those, guys you know how to adapt with just you,

548
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 8: know know their rosters are always changing at THE nba,

549
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 8: level and guys are out and load managing and doing all. This,

550
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 8: oh that's really, HELPED i think and just maybe maybe

551
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 8: a little more patience and maybe understanding, that, hey you,

552
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 8: know we're not going to click like maybe our twenty.

553
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 10: One team did or our nineteen team or.

554
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 8: Whatever but you, know there's some things we do really

555
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 8: really well that are a little different maybe than some

556
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 8: of those. Teams we're a really really good defensive team this.

557
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 8: Year it's a little bit.

558
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Underrated THE nil has it made some players harder to?

559
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 8: Coach you, KNOW i was really leary of that and

560
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 8: watching it really closely and my, experience, no you, KNOW

561
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 8: i mean it's just now, listen, man it's it is

562
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 8: a royal pain in the rear here when we hit

563
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 8: the off, season like you wouldn't, believe because literally we

564
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 8: have no. RULES i, mean you could sign with me

565
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 8: tomorrow and then you, know with somebody else a week from,

566
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 8: now and and so there's we literally have no rules right.

567
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 8: NOW i think that's the hardest, thing this roster. Building

568
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 8: but you know, what once like, practice once you get

569
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 8: into your, mode you have your team in the fall

570
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 8: and you start. PRACTICING i haven't noticed any difference along those.

571
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 8: Lines you, know there, Is colin though this there is

572
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 8: the difference.

573
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 10: Of, uh.

574
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 8: You, KNOW i mean you just you're not maybe quite

575
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: as hard on guys as you used to be back

576
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 8: in the, past challenging them and.

577
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah because they can. Bail but you, KNOW i

578
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: mean you don't RECRUIT i, mean you don't recruit a

579
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: lot of high maintenance. GUYS i, mean, yeah you. Don't

580
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: you don't have. That it's not really YOUR i, mean

581
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: if you go To, gonzaga you got to leave your

582
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: ego at the. DOOR i, MEAN I i you, know, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

583
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 8: Hey and, LISTEN i now hope to go into shameless

584
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 8: self promotion of something. Here but we had we have

585
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 8: this wonderful documentary that just was done On Gunzaga, basketball

586
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 8: and they premiered it the other night AND i watched,

587
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 8: it and it brought home so many of these points

588
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 8: of what our program's all, about you, know and one

589
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 8: of it was that, was you, know we don't deal.

590
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 10: With high, maintenance and.

591
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 8: You know you're here to you, know there's a culture,

592
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 8: here and there's a family atmosphere, here there's a work

593
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 8: ethic here that's just, innate and everybody just kind of

594
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 8: buys into. It and it was great to have our

595
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 8: current guys sit through that thing and watch.

596
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 10: It so many of, them you, know you think they know,

597
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 10: it but they.

598
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 8: Don't AND i don't want to, bory but the best

599
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 8: STORY i got out that we have a Transfer ty

600
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 8: On Grant foster AND i, Said, ty what was the

601
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 8: biggest thing you took out of?

602
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 11: That And he's, like Coach, MAN i couldn't believe That

603
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 11: Adam morrison was at the thing last, night you, Know

604
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 11: AND i was, Like, ty you, know he's our radio

605
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 11: guy and is at half our meals on the road

606
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 11: and walking around here and he's around the gym and he's,

607
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 11: LIKE i didn't even.

608
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 12: Recognize you remembered him with long, hair the, mustache and

609
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 12: he had no.

610
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 10: IDEA i don't.

611
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 8: Know so sometimes it's good to be just reminded of

612
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 8: what this place has been all, about what it stands,

613
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 8: for and why we've.

614
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 10: Kind of had the run we've.

615
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: HAD i don't even know how old you. Are you're

616
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: in great shape and you're like you work out and

617
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: you bike. Everywhere how long are you going to do?

618
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: This oh?

619
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 8: Man as long as it's it's still you know, Something i'd,

620
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 8: say something that you enjoy and how can you not,

621
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 8: enjoy you, know being around athletics like, you you, know

622
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 8: like you, too you, know we're you get to talk about,

623
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 8: it around it all the, time.

624
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: You.

625
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 10: KNOW i would, say.

626
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 8: As WHEN i quit feeling like maybe him having this

627
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 8: big impact on him and and not you, know helping

628
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 8: them grow as much as as you, Can i'd say

629
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 8: that would be that that's going to be the big

630
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 8: kind of flection point for.

631
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Me who's the best player you played this year in

632
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: the sport? Single best player you? Faced Oh?

633
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 8: Man luxembourg was ter riff against. Us he hit the

634
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 8: first jump shot right in front of me and was

635
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 8: just PHYSICALLY i thought he was he was the. Best

636
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 8: we haven't you know teed it up against any of these.

637
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 8: Freshmen they're having some great. Years but you, know there's

638
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 8: some veterans out there that are having some great years

639
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 8: THAT i think are getting a little overlooked with all

640
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 8: this freshman.

641
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Hype, yeah, hey do You i'm not into this tournament.

642
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: EXPANSION i don't like. IT i don't even like the

643
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: first four nonsense start On, thursday sixty four. Teams i'm.

644
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: Good don't confuse my small. BRAIN i don't want. It

645
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: what do you make of what do you make of?

646
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: Expansion i'm with you on. IT i don't think it

647
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: needs to be watered down.

648
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 8: Anymore AND i you, KNOW i don't want to dilute

649
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 8: the regular, season you, KNOW i want this last month

650
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Speaker 8: where people are are really sweating it and scratching to

651
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Speaker 8: get into this thing and make it something that's really

652
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Speaker 8: really prestigious.

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Speaker 10: To just to get. Into to have your name called

654
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Speaker 10: on Selection.

655
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 8: Sunday that's still a big thing to me to See

656
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 8: gonzaga pop up there on Selection.

657
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 10: Sunday AND i, think you, know adding more is just

658
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 10: going to water it.

659
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Down his winning percentage is eighty three. Percent that's pretty.

660
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Speaker 1: Good oh you, See Kevin durant said he plans to

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00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: play in The olympics In Los. Angeles you KNOW kd pretty.

662
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: Well what was he like to?

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Speaker 8: Coach, awesome this, awesome awesome, guy just a wonderful player

664
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Speaker 8: and just a great. Teammate he was so great as a.

665
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Speaker 8: Teammate and the the synergy between him And Anthony edwards

666
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 8: was just. Priceless Anthony, edwards you, know grew up idolizing THE.

667
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 8: Kd and and, uh they were kind of on the

668
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 8: floor together a lot with our our our one of our.

669
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Speaker 8: Groups and it was fun to watch Even ant kind

670
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Speaker 8: of defer to him a little bit and get such

671
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 8: great joy when he SAW kd jumper and just you

672
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 8: Know steph's threes and, uh you Know Louel sinders. Skyhook

673
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 8: Kevin durant's pull up man has to go down as

674
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 8: one of the most, legendary you, know iconic shots in

675
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 8: all of basketball. HISTORY i think it's about as automatic

676
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 8: as you can. Get.

677
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: YEAH i, said if you take out centers and you

678
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Speaker 1: had an all time one on one, TOURNAMENT i would

679
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: TAKE kd to even BEAT, mj BECAUSE i don't THINK

680
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: mj could stop, him AND i don't THINK i don't

681
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Think lebron could shoot with. HIM i THINK kd individually

682
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: is as good an offensive. Player i'm not talking about you,

683
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't Want shack in my one on one

684
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Speaker 1: tournament or. Kareem but if you took all the other,

685
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Speaker 1: Players i've never seen a guy. Score maybe you have

686
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: because you coach pros and it looks so. Easy you

687
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: can give him the ball in the last second half

688
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: of the shot. Clock he gets an effortless.

689
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 8: Jumper he can get it off on anybody anytime he.

690
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 8: Wants you, know you can get that shot off no

691
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 8: matter what defense you're. In but let's posterhor, say let's

692
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 8: not discount you, Know lebron in one on.

693
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Speaker 10: One he's still got that, heart he still got that,

694
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 10: brain he's still got that.

695
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 8: TOUGHNESS i wouldn't count him out on any sport where

696
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Speaker 8: you're keeping.

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Score Mark Few gonzaga. Coach as, always you know it's

698
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: okay to suck up to your bosses once in a.

699
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: While you're a powerful. Coach you don't have to suck

700
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: up to YOUR A. D i'm still just trying to

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00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: get by here and get a, check all, right yeah?

702
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 8: Right killing it in the ratings, thing demanding a move To,

703
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 8: chicago LIKE i, say you're doing okay for.

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Speaker 10: Yourself, Hey i'm going to the state tournament today In.

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Speaker 10: Washington you remember those?

706
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Speaker 1: Days where is it At? St mary's your PS T,

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Speaker 1: Comodome Ta.

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Speaker 8: Comodome so, YEAH i figured you'd remember those days back

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Speaker 8: when the old stalking.

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Speaker 1: Grounds oh, yeah, Boy i'd get on a. Heater you

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop, me that's for. SURE a little crossover pull

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Speaker 1: up couldn't stop. Me, right that's. Right good seeing, You, Mark.

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Speaker 10: Yeah you, too call?

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Speaker 6: Him?

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Speaker 4: UH i?

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Speaker 1: Remember, yeah The Tacoma dome that WHEN i was really,

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Speaker 1: young there was there was No Tacoma.

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Speaker 13: Dome it was The.

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Speaker 1: Kingdome then they built The Tacoma dome and they put

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Speaker 1: all the high school state championships in. There, okay it

721
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Speaker 1: is a done. Deal The bills deal is a done. Deal.

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Speaker 1: Whooee bears got a second and a. Fifth bear's got

723
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: a second round pick OFF Dj. Moore, wow a second

724
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Speaker 1: and a. Fifth so The bears now hold, on hold?

725
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 3: On oh WELL Dj moore and if, YEAH dj moren't,

726
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Speaker 3: here The bills are sending a twenty twenty six second

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Speaker 3: round pick to The.

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Speaker 1: Bears, okay so Basically chicago's going to have a first

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: and two seconds and the. Third that's the, key the

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00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: four top for The. BEARS i, Mean, colin there is

731
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: a horrible deal for The. Bills what happened to mid round?

732
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Speaker 1: COMPENSATION a second round pick FOR Dj?

733
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Speaker 6: Moore what does that?

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Speaker 3: Mean Aj brownsworth a first. Stunned i'm. Stunned holy, cow

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Speaker 3: that's a lot FOR Dj.

736
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Speaker 1: Moore so The bills GOT Dj moore and a fifth round. Pick,

737
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: yeah and The bears.

738
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Speaker 6: Got a second round pick FOR Dj moore who had

739
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Speaker 6: six hundred yards and six.

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Touchdowns, well he's a good, receiver but a second round

741
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Speaker 3: pick that seems really. Rich, Colin holy, COW i don't.

742
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Speaker 6: Know a second round pick that's huge. Value you could

743
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Speaker 6: get receivers.

744
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Down IF i said had eight hundred and fifty, yards

745
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: remember he had his best year Under brady down In.

746
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Carolina IF i SAID Dj moore had eight hundred and

747
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Speaker 1: fifty yards and six, touchdowns you'd be, Like, okay second

748
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: round pick who hit about fifty seven percent of the,

749
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Speaker 1: time sixty percent of the. Time THAT'S i don't. KNOW i, mean,

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Speaker 1: LISTEN i, LIKE i like proven st ours who don't miss.

751
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Games that's, fair THAT'S Dj. Moore he hasn't missed a

752
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: start in.

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00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: Forever does this speak to a desperation level that The

754
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: bears would give up a second round pick For?

755
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: Djails we give up a second round pick FOR Dj.

756
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Moore i' wouldn't say, desperation it's a.

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00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Need, well they clearly didn't have THEM o FOR Aj,

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00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: brown so they're, like all, right well we'll go FOR Dj.

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00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Moore who In, chicago it's The.

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Speaker 2: Herd be sure to catch live editions Of The herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays and Noon easter not A empacific.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in hour. Two it is A. Thursday this is.

763
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Speaker 1: Interesting so Yesterday Aaron rodgers spoke for the first time

764
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: McAfee show since like the season, ended AND i Defended

765
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers all. YEAR i said a lot a lot

766
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: of people were punishing him LIKE pff because he wasn't

767
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: rolling the ball down the field That i'm they have one.

768
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Receiver so, yesterday he's still unclear if he's coming back To.

769
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh BUT i will, say if you had AN nfl

770
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: quarterback draft today with everybody in the league and it

771
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: was based on the next three to four, years, Yeah

772
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: aaron's not top. Twenty if you had a quarterback draft

773
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: for next, year Only Aaron rodgers would make my top.

774
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Ten and you think that's. Crazy but The steelers were a,

775
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: broken dysfunctional. Offense they went from twenty third in sacks to.

776
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: Ninth they went from tenth to giveaways to. Fourth red

777
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: zone was almost dead last in the. League to top

778
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: eleven yards after the, catch they were. First they averaged

779
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: more yards per play Than Liam, Cohen Trevor lawrence and The,

780
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: jags and they averaged more points than The philadelphia Stacked.

781
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Eagles so to, ME i Thought aaron had a great.

782
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Year it was a completely broken. Ecosystem, offensively they didn't

783
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: turn it, all they didn't have, penalties they were good

784
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: in the red, zone they were good after the. Catch That's.

785
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Aaron what else? Changed it Was? Aaron SO i think,

786
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: again if you're talking one, YEAR i think he's a

787
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: top ten. Quarterback matt Hassel back On aaron potentially coming.

788
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Speaker 13: BACK i think he wants to play, football but with

789
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 13: a caveat only somewhere that plays in his, offense with

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00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 13: his verbiage someone that, AGE i lived.

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Speaker 10: It you don't want to.

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00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 13: Try to learn a new. Language you don't you like

793
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 13: if it's if it's In pittsburgh With mike McCarthy or

794
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 13: someone that runs that same. Offense, yes if it's, not then,

795
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 13: no he doesn't want to get in the huddle and

796
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 13: have to think about red, left swap tight, CLOTHS z,

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Speaker 13: right spring, right G u, corner half back flat on

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Speaker 13: one ready break.

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Speaker 10: Like he doesn't want to do. That he doesn't want

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Speaker 10: to wear a.

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00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 13: Wristband he wants to own the, offense and so it's

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 13: got to be in that kind of a system for

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Speaker 13: him to come.

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00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Back in my, mind, YEAH i you, know for seventeen,

805
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: GAMES i would Take aaron over, all but about eight

806
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: guys in the, league and most of those GUYS i

807
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: would take because they're a little younger and a little more.

808
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Athletic but go look at what The steelers, were and

809
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: just by Adding, aaron look what they, became like a functional.

810
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Offense now they Have mike, McCarthy SO i have like

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00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: an adult offensive, Coach Dak cooper Rush. AARON i honestly

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00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: think With baltimore right now In cincinnati's, Ridiculousness i'm not

813
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: so SURE i wouldn't Have aaron In pittsburgh winning the

814
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: division with. McCarthy i REALLY i, mean say what you

815
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: want this head. Coach they've already got the staff laid.

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Out you, know McCarthy has always been good at. Elevating

817
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: they have to go get a number two wide. Receiver

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00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: BUT i think he's coming. Back and with, that here's breaking.

819
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: News schalm's just Reported Jason, tatum just ten months after

820
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: surgery for a ruptured Achilles Jason tatum will. Play he's

821
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Speaker 1: making his debut is at tomorrow against The Dallas, mavericks

822
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: JOINING Us. Live Jason, temph host Of Hoops tonight at The,

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Speaker 1: volume had them on a couple of weeks. Ago got great.

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00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Feedback all. Right SO i always say this when it

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00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: comes to young athletes in their, prime they always heal.

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00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: Faster they always show up three months. Before, okay so

827
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: The knicks have been playing. Well we worry about their.

828
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: Defense The pistons are, good but you know their half guard,

829
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: offense there's a ceiling on. It tatum to The. Celtics

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00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: are they the best team now in The?

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Speaker 5: East?

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00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Potentially you, know there's this thing with.

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Speaker 12: Culture this season For boston has been a testament to

834
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 12: their culture and just how strong it. Is but then

835
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 12: what happens is you run into really good basketball teams

836
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 12: and culture can only take you so. Far you need

837
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 12: really good, players Right and last night The celtics ran

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00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 12: into A Charlotte hornet's team that is sixteen and three

839
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Speaker 12: in their.

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Speaker 1: Last Nineteen yames fires for each other.

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00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 12: Team, yeah conversation for another, day but that is an

842
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 12: incredible basketball team they're building out there In. Charlotte but

843
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 12: The celtics got their butt, kicks and there were a

844
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 12: couple of specific reasons. Why but one of the big

845
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 12: reasons why is that their centers really really struggled to

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00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 12: guard and pick and roll and they were just getting

847
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 12: absolutely fried by everybody from The. Hornets and the big

848
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 12: difference between last year's center rotation and this year's center

849
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 12: rotation is, one you don't Have Al, horford a guy

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00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 12: who has more scheme versatility he can.

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00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: Switch but.

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00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 10: Two guess who guarded centers for the most part last

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00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 10: Year Jason.

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00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 12: Tatum Jason tatum's ability to guard centers gave The celtics

855
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 12: the ability to switch most ball screens and it was

856
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 12: one of the primary driving forces behind them winning the,

857
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 12: title most famously breaking That dallas offense by Putting tatum

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00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 12: on centers and switching all of those ball screens and so,

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00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 12: again it's all fun in. Games this has been a

860
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 12: very impressive season For, boston but they Need Jason. Tatum

861
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 12: he unlocks their defensive. Versatility Jalen brown on, offense he's

862
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 12: had a very good, season but he's shown some susceptibility

863
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 12: to certain types of. Looks he specifically struggled against deep,

864
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 12: drop which is something That charlotte did a bunch to

865
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 12: them last. Night Jason tatum gives you another guy who

866
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 12: can kind of alleviate that burden On Jalen, brown and,

867
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 12: Specifically Jason tatum is a much better, passer and it's something,

868
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 12: that as we talked, about it'll be a little clunky

869
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 12: at first implementing him into this, offense but ultimately you

870
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 12: will make them more versatile on both ends of the

871
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 12: floor and make them a much better team against the

872
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 12: best competition around the.

873
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: League All, RIGHT i watched every second of The nicks

874
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: hammering The. Spurs they had every they missed a couple

875
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: of late three, pointers they could have BEATEN okc last.

876
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Night so you, know and you know, This. Jason regular

877
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: season is different when you can play a team four

878
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: or five times in a row and hunt their defensive.

879
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Weakness maybe The knicks aren't built for. That, maybe BUT

880
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: i will say we worried About. Tibbs, oh Here's Mike,

881
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: brown their bench, scoring THEIR i MEAN i said this here.

882
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Day you could be a casual Fan brunson and cas

883
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: and og And Josh hart And Michale. Bridges they got

884
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: a nice. ROTATION i, mean do you buy this current.

885
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 12: Streak you know what's, FUNNY i told you this last

886
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 12: a couple of weeks. AGO i believe in this team

887
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 12: more THAN i do recent versions of The knicks because

888
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 12: they're better at some specific. Things Mike brown in. Particular

889
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 12: one of the biggest things he's emphasized is early dribble.

890
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 12: Penetration The knicks generate the second most spot up opportunities

891
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 12: in the ENTIRE nba this. Season last year they were

892
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 12: middle of the. Pack so spot ups in the half,

893
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 12: court that's just a guy standing open on the. Perimeter

894
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 12: that's where you get a lot of your best offense

895
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 12: in the half. Court they are running better, offense they're

896
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 12: playing better, defense but my concern was the rest of

897
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 12: the league had gotten. Better what's actually gotten me to

898
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 12: buy into The, Knicks collin is their matchups against some

899
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 12: of these better teams in the. League they match up

900
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 12: really well with The San Antonio, SPURS, yep and The

901
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 12: San Antonio spurs match up really well with The, Thunder

902
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 12: and so it's really easy for me to sit here

903
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 12: and be, like, oh DO i think The knicks can

904
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 12: beat The thunder in the?

905
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 10: Series, NO i.

906
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 12: DON'T i don't Think brunson can go blow for blow

907
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 12: WITH i don't think they have close to the defensive.

908
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 12: Versatility there's all sorts of issues that would go south

909
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 12: For New york in that type of. Matchup but they

910
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 12: can absolutely beat all these teams in The. East there's

911
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 12: not a team out there in The east that looks

912
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 12: unbeatable or that can present the types of challenges That

913
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 12: Oklahoma city can present if they can somehow get out

914
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 12: of the. Conference San antonio has Had Oklahoma city's number all,

915
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 12: season And San antonio to me, like there's a lot

916
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 12: of things with, them some numbers and some specifics with

917
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 12: them that are causing me to recalibrate HOW i view

918
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 12: them compared to other young. Teams but if The spurs

919
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 12: come out of The west and The knicks come out

920
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 12: of The, east The knicks have had their number this.

921
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 12: Year their bigger wings have been able to Guard San antonio's.

922
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 12: Guards they've been physical With, Wemby brunson's outplay deer And.

923
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 12: Fox they look really good in that. Matchup and so

924
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 12: AS i was looking at That knicks game against The

925
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 12: spurs last, WEEK i was, Like, man if things break,

926
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 12: right This knicks team absolutely could win the title this.

927
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Year all, Right so everybody bangs ON sga and my

928
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: take is he doesn't Have lebron size and. Verticality you,

929
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: know he didn't Have jay's, Length so you do what you.

930
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Do it's like most of the great route runners IN

931
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: nfl history at receiver are not huge and are not.

932
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: BURNERS jsn is a great route runner because he has

933
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: to be a great route. Runner AND i look AT,

934
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: Sgn i'm, like he's six six and a buck ninety.

935
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Four he's got to. MANIPULATE i don't think the refs

936
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: he's currying favor with the. REFS i think it's. Difficult

937
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: AND i do think he's thin and you can bump

938
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: him off his spot and they're gonna blow the. Whistle,

939
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: Also jordan had twelve free throws a game one. Year

940
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: Crickets kd's done ten plus crickets three Times kobe ten,

941
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: plus but their games are way more fun to, watch

942
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: so nobody. Complains is part of this is that his

943
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: game's no fun to.

944
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 12: Watch so this is complicated BECAUSE i do think that

945
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 12: the foulgrifting thing is a. Problem, Like i'm, sorry but

946
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 12: when we're watching a big NATIONAL tv game And shay

947
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 12: drives Into kat and just throws up SOME bs shot

948
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 12: that he would never take unless he was trying to draw,

949
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 12: FOUL i do think that's a bad television. PRODUCT i

950
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 12: just think that's a league wide issue AND i can't

951
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 12: really get On shay about it When luca does the

952
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 12: same thing And Jalen brunson does the same, thing and,

953
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 12: man Even jokic has been flopping so much as of.

954
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 12: Late like it's just a league wide. Problem SO i

955
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 12: don't really see the point in Targeting shay specifically because

956
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 12: he's not the only guy that's doing it. Now the

957
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 12: stuff about him being A tv kind of like a

958
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 12: draw for. Fans to, me it comes down to that

959
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 12: exact concept you're talking. About footwork is fascinating to a

960
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 12: football like to a huge football, fan right or a

961
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 12: guy who played or something along those. Lines for a

962
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 12: guy like, me a basketball nut job LIKE i have

963
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 12: an incredible appreciation For shay's, footwork his like bizarre slinky,

964
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 12: athleticism his shot making ability in the mid, range like

965
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 12: those are things THAT i. Like but for the, masses

966
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 12: for the casual, fans he doesn't get the crazy dunks Like.

967
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 12: Lebron he doesn't go on these insane shooting displays Like Steph.

968
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 12: Curry his offense as a team isn't like the incredible passing,

969
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 12: fueled fluid team offense you see from Like jokic or

970
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 12: the insane physical feats Of. Wemby SO i think, honestly With,

971
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 12: shay he just struggles to resonate with the masses because

972
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 12: most of his appeal is to more of the refined

973
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 12: basketball side rather than the obvious basketball.

974
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Side, okay SO i have said this, before is that you,

975
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: know with the, nil if one of these powers Like

976
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Notre dame Or georgia Or texas a player transfers, out

977
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: it's mostly Because texas Or Notre dame Er georgia don't

978
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: hold him in high. Regard you're not taking the Best

979
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: georgia football player From. Georgia if he's great they're going

980
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: to keep him in. House AND i feel the same

981
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: way about guys that get. Traded harden's a great, player,

982
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: right been traded several. Times why because the eventually the

983
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: truth comes. Out your game is your, Game Anthony. Davis,

984
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: now let's be. Honest after they win THE covid, title

985
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: shows up out of shape the next, year the honeymoon

986
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: was over the minute he showed up the camp out

987
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: of shape To, lebron who's obsessed with being in. Shape

988
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: SO i Love, luca but the truth was he'd been

989
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: hurting back to back. Years i've always said there's A

990
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: carmelo component here where he's not in great. Shape he

991
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: doesn't really contribute. Defensively are you, surprised, however in the

992
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: last two weeks that it's the first time ever there's

993
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: been a lot of criticism With luca some of a roster.

994
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: Construction this is not it's too much. Duplication but have

995
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you been surprised by the? Criticism, NO i.

996
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 12: Think a lot of it is. Fair you got to,

997
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 12: remember when we're talking about guys at this echelon of the,

998
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 12: league we're not comparing you to the seventh or eighth

999
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 12: best player in the. League we're comparing you To Nicole

1000
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 12: jokich To Shake Kiodus. Alexander we're talking about a special

1001
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 12: caliber of player, here and so you can get a

1002
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 12: little bit more. Nitpicky the main Thing i've noticed With

1003
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 12: luca is that his floor is just a lot lower

1004
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 12: than those. GUYS i firmly believe that When luca's got

1005
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 12: his step back three, going he's like the best player

1006
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 12: in the world because he brings the crazy efficiency math

1007
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 12: problem That steph presents with like the size and position Of,

1008
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 12: jokics but also with the mid range proficiency Of. Shay

1009
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 12: he brings it all to the table and it shows

1010
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 12: in the numbers because when he, scores they're super, effective

1011
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 12: but when he fails to knock those shots, down he

1012
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 12: just struggles to impact the game in other. Ways here

1013
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 12: coming Crazy Statsbury, Colin The lakers are just four and

1014
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 12: seven this. Year When luca scores twenty five or fewer,

1015
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 12: points they are twenty seven and. Eleven when he scores

1016
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 12: over twenty, five they are nineteen and. Six when he

1017
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 12: makes at least four, threes they're twelve and twelve when

1018
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 12: he makes fewer than four. Threes so so much comes

1019
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 12: down to him knocking down that step back. Three and

1020
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 12: one of the things With luca is it used to

1021
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 12: be when he didn't have his jump shot, going he

1022
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 12: could get to the rim and that would drive all

1023
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 12: of these other parts of his game. Colin his ability

1024
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 12: gets to the rim is consistently declining year over year

1025
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 12: twenty twenty three With dallas six point one rim attempts per,

1026
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 12: game twenty twenty four With dallas, five twenty twenty, five

1027
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 12: four point, four twenty twenty six with The lakers three point.

1028
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 12: Five so we have a consistent year over year decline

1029
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 12: in his ability to get to the, rim and so

1030
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 12: as a result of, that he's not able to bring

1031
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 12: another element to his game when his jump shots not.

1032
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 12: Falling he's not a very good defensive. Player he's hard

1033
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 12: to protect on defense. Too teams have coverages to protect

1034
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 12: guards that can't, defend But luca is so slow that

1035
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 12: they basically have to switch with, him which makes him

1036
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 12: an easy. Target and so really it's not so much

1037
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 12: about what lucas capable, of it's about what he looks

1038
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 12: like when things aren't going his. Way with that jump,

1039
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 12: shot his floor is, lower and it just makes them

1040
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 12: more complicated to build.

1041
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: Around are you surprised That lebron And luca on the

1042
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: floor together don't, work Because lebron generally works with, everybody

1043
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: SO i think it's.

1044
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 12: COMPLICATED i, think first of, all they are starting to play.

1045
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 12: Better The big three have started to find some footing

1046
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 12: on offense over the course of the last couple of.

1047
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 12: WEEKS i think the biggest reason why it hasn't worked

1048
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 12: Is lebron is just having a brutal jump shooting. Season

1049
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 12: this is Something i've learned a lot from THE nba

1050
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 12: over the last few. Years if you want to partner

1051
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 12: multiple stars, together there needs to be a jump shooting.

1052
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 12: Element guys need to be able to shoot because that's

1053
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 12: the only thing that allows them to stay involved and

1054
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 12: to have utility when they don't have the. Basketball and

1055
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 12: what's so weird Is lebron had been an awesome catch

1056
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 12: and shoot player the last couple of, years in the

1057
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 12: mid forty percent from three the previous two, seasons But

1058
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 12: lebron's been having a bad jump shooting, season so as a,

1059
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 12: result he hasn't had as much off ball. Utility The

1060
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 12: lebron groups that have been best has been when he's by.

1061
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 12: Himself they've been some of The lakers' best, groups or

1062
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 12: when he's by himself because he's on the ball and

1063
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 12: he's primarily operating in transition and the offense is flowing around,

1064
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 12: him and so his catch and shoot jump shots not as.

1065
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 12: Important but, ultimately with this, team you've got two guys

1066
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 12: In luca And lebron in, particular that are not great

1067
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 12: catch and shoot, players and that makes them really difficult

1068
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 12: to play alongside each.

1069
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: Other it's Called Hoops. Tonight it's a podcast at The

1070
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: volume as, Always, buddy great seeing, you appreciate.

1071
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Speaker 10: It good to see.

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