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Speaker 1: Welcome back on Dale Ali and he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and this is our number two of the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And well, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: do a little fantasy segmentary. We'll save that for tomorrow

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Speaker 1: when we do that our weekend DFS lineup. We're down

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Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty here now.

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Speaker 2: The only fantasy nugget that's went through out there is

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Speaker 2: just real concerned curious about Deebo's health.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was supposed to practice on a limited

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Speaker 1: basis today.

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Speaker 2: I know he didn't on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll give it a shot, right, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: He's decoying it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but probably not the kind of usage that

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Speaker 1: you get. It looks like the Ravens they waved a

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Speaker 1: linebacker Tage Jeremiah Moon. It looks like they're clearing space

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Speaker 1: on their roster to activate.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Andrews soon. He's also Yeah, I know he's on

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Speaker 2: Fantasy relevant, but that's a big injury tomorrow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So looking here, I'm on the thirty third team. They

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Speaker 1: did eight, two good rounds. A little bit more, let's

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Speaker 1: take a look here at what they have. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they have Caleb Williams going to number one to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I think you said they they do have trades in

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Speaker 2: this one though, right, Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: This one's done by Connor Livesay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've done. We talked about his way. I like

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Speaker 2: the third.

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Speaker 1: Washington takes Drake May. Okay, then we have a trade

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Speaker 1: there we go. So Atlanta trades up, we coach and

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Speaker 1: for Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's crazy. I mean it was more

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Speaker 2: of a Belichick thing, but I thought there was a

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Speaker 2: strong chance Cousins or a first round pick is Atlanta's

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: For the Cardinals, take Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: Pretty chocky.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers didn't take Brock Bowers.

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Speaker 2: Would you take Bowers or one of the receivers.

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Speaker 1: I'd probably take one of the receivers.

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Speaker 2: I just think they're harder to find and easier to use.

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Speaker 2: But I get it.

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Speaker 1: The Giants did take Malik Neighbors gladly.

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Speaker 2: Giants are good spot it's someone will follow them. They'll

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Speaker 1: The Titans then take Joe alt Cool. The Patriots, after

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Speaker 1: trading back, take Roma Dounzie.

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad consolation prize.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you got. Yeah right, I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he puts Yeah, he does put there. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: trades one to eight, their second round pick and a

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Speaker 2: Way for the Patriots to rebuild an offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, you need more than one thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need a lot the receiver. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then we have another trade here. You get the Bears,

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Speaker 1: the Saints trading up with the Bears. So the Saints

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Speaker 2: Who do they want?

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Speaker 1: They go up to get for shawnhu the offensive state.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, he's the ninth Yeah, yeah, I got it.

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Speaker 1: The Jets and take J. C. Latham, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: out of Alabama him that that's why you have to

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Speaker 2: That adds up. It's a good trade then. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings take at eleven Jerson Newton, the interior defensive

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Speaker 2: And go a lot of directions. It seems like it's

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Speaker 1: So on. On Steelers dot com today, I wrote my

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Speaker 1: I put out my piece on the Steelers defensive line.

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Speaker 2: You're going to position position by.

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Speaker 1: Position britt looks and one of the first A lot

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Speaker 1: of the comments on there on social media, well, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers really need to draft another defensive line lineman in

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Speaker 1: this is not the draft to do that in.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's next year's project.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I think you squeeze one more good year out of

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Speaker 2: There's someone in that neighborhood and maybe your first round

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Speaker 1: Jers On Newton doesn't fit as a defensive end in

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Speaker 1: The Murphy kid.

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Speaker 2: From from he's more of an attacker.

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Speaker 1: He's six two and three hundred pounds like these guys don't.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad deep table draft. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: want to set yourself up to fish from a shallow pond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. At twelve, Denver takes late two Lattu, the

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Speaker 2: They feel like they could got a lot of directions too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Raiders then take at thirteen Terry and Arnold,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be a good fit. It would be again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Chicago then takes Brian Thomas Junior, the wide receiver at.

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Speaker 2: Development after trading down. You're pretty happy with that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the first overall quarterback.

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Speaker 1: At fifteen, the Colts take Keyon Coleman, wide receiver out

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Speaker 2: I would think those two are competing for that fourth

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Speaker 1: It's sixteen. The Seahawks take your adversity, the edgresser out

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Speaker 1: At seventeen, Jacksonville then takes Dallas Turner, the edgeresser out

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna franchise Allen and they used the

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Speaker 2: he bumps inside. Yeah, they got a lot of receiver

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Speaker 2: I think that should be an offensive pick.

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Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals take Telisi Fluaga, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Almost always a tackle for that it should be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nineteen, the Rams take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback out of Clemson.

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Speaker 1: At twenty he has a Steelers taking Taylor get In,

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Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I mean, I'm excited for

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Speaker 2: be hard at the Dejeans, I'm taking Dejeene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Dejeane fix it. He doesn't completely fix

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more and more homework. I mean, I've liked him

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Speaker 2: We keep talking about his versatility and the bigger version

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Speaker 1: To me, there's some there's some Rod Woodson traits there.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to compare him to Rod Woodson.

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious. You said that because I as I did homework,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, he reminds me of Jalen Ramsey and Rod Woodson.

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Speaker 2: I have never said that on the air, but in

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Speaker 2: Athlete, multi sports physicality, all the stuff he can do.

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Speaker 2: He's a natural, he's competitive. He tackles Ramsey's that way too. Yeah, big,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I know those guys are Hall

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Speaker 1: Our little vulcan blind milled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that.

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Speaker 1: At twenty one. The Dolphins take Braylan Trice, he had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one more Deshene thing. He broke his leg with

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Speaker 2: Hoobe doesn't. My worry is not that he's a secret,

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Speaker 2: I mean, good, folks, go YouTube his dunk. I mean stuff,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty two, the Philadelphia Eagles take Kamari Lassiter,

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Speaker 2: I think they are going to take a corner Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: At twenty three, Houston takes Troy Franklin, the wide receiver

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Speaker 2: a really good spot and really improve this offseason.

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Speaker 1: At twenty four, we've got a trade between the Lions

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Speaker 1: So Detroit gives up the thirtieth pick and their third

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Speaker 1: twenty four and they take Kool Aid McKinstry Alabama.

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Speaker 2: If you're to trade up, it needs to help your

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Speaker 2: pass defense. Yea, their corners are so degen still, Oh,

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Speaker 2: come on, man, the Lions should have thrown in that lineman,

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Speaker 1: Have been good. At twenty five, the Packers take Troy Fatanu,

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Speaker 1: At twenty six, Tampa Bay takes JJ McCarthy, the quarterback

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Speaker 2: It's a good spot for him. Yeah. I mean, Baker

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, Arizona takes Chop Robinson, the edge rusher out

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Speaker 2: And they took a large at large a large aid

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Speaker 1: Kansas City then at twenty eight takes the Donnie Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: If I'm doing receiver for them, it's gonna be speed.

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Speaker 2: And that's him, you know, Like Rice is more of

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Speaker 2: a not a plotter, but he's a near the line

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty nine, Buffalo takes Xavier Lagette, wide receiver

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Speaker 2: This year you basically get four first rounders.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about HM forever.

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Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I would, you know, I'd

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Speaker 2: Like I look at some of these these guys, don't they.

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Speaker 1: Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson and this is

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com looks at all the free agent

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Speaker 2: It's not a great group.

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Speaker 1: Not a great group, but I thought we'd go through

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Speaker 1: these here. And he says, twenty twenty four NFL Free Agency,

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Speaker 2: You would think somebody on this list ends up in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: So he has his don't let them leave town list.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's his top guys.

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Speaker 1: The guys that need to be resigned. Kirk Cousins leads

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Speaker 1: But he's thirty five years old to be thirty six

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Speaker 2: Here, they don't have a young guy plan. They don't

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Speaker 1: So that makes a ton of sense, it does it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that one gets done.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, they really don't Gardner Minshew in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: He's a free agent. He's not gonna get.

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna be like, we can't, We're not gonna

446
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,199
Speaker 1: pay him more.

447
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,159
Speaker 2: Huntley wants five million and we're just not gonna give it.

448
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that.

449
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can find somebody to do that. He takes

450
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,359
Speaker 2: a ton of sacks and.

451
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 1: As I throw the ball down the field, I'm not

452
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 1: a fan. I'm not either, Uh Mason Rudolph.

453
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,679
Speaker 2: I understand that. Yeah, I mean have to have to.

454
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the world would keep spinning if he went

455
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,360
Speaker 2: somewhere else. But yeah, it sure seems like a fit.

456
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,639
Speaker 1: Here's what he has to say and one of the

457
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 1: unlikeliest stories of twenty twenty three. Rudolph rose from the

458
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,919
Speaker 1: quarterback from a quarterback buried on Pittsburgh's depth chart for

459
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,959
Speaker 1: years to the Steelers' best option in a desperate playoff push,

460
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 1: performing well enough to see the team into the postseason,

461
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 1: and convinced management he still has value. Mike Tomlin already

462
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: told reporters the Steelers are very much interested in doing

463
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 1: continued business with Rudolph. Who could even push Kenny Pickett

464
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,679
Speaker 1: in training camp in twenty twenty four competition that Tomlin

465
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 1: appears to welcome. Pittsburgh and Rudolph have to find a

466
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 1: common financial ground to get it done.

467
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 2: Well said, I don't know if I could fight any

468
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 2: of that stuff.

469
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: Not one bit. No, I do think that there will

470
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 1: be something of a market for Rudolph.

471
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 2: He won't sit out there for months.

472
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it won't be like last year where he went

473
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: out on the open because he didn't there. People hadn't

474
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: seen him play largely since the twenty nineteen season. You know.

475
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 1: The only other time that he had played was a

476
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 1: game at the end of the season against Cleveland and

477
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: a game in the reign against Detroit that he found

478
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 1: out he was starting that game twelve hours before the game.

479
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I don't know that he'll have many or

480
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 2: any You're.

481
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Not going to get a starting shot, yeah, Like.

482
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 2: We want you to be start or undisputed.

483
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we want you to come in and his

484
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: really his what it ends up being is maybe I

485
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: don't know the Raiders look at and.

486
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: Say, Raiders the team.

487
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: I was about to say, we want you to come

488
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: where we go again? Yeah, we want you to come

489
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: in and push Aidan O'Connell for the starting job.

490
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 2: Or or we might draft someone or yeah, you know

491
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: Jimmy's we're gonna cut him and save some money. Or yeah,

492
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: I think that's a situation will be in, or we

493
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 2: want you to we are going to draft somebody New

494
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,239
Speaker 2: England or somebody there picking high you know.

495
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 1: Whereas if you're Rudolph, you might look at this. First

496
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: of all, he's an East Coast guy. He's from North Carolina.

497
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know that as an oklub.

498
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: Sna Do you've been here for a long time? I'm sure? Yeah,

499
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: you know you've got some some roots here in Pittsburgh.

500
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: You do you want to stay here?

501
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 2: And you're you knowing the offense isn't a thing because

502
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: because that's.

503
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: Going to be out the window. But you know who

504
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 1: you're going to be competing against.

505
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the coaches know you, and you know

506
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: your teammates, and no, I think this is a good opportunity.

507
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: He's probably going to get Yeah.

508
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: Uh, Jacoby Brissette Washington.

509
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that he has to come back. They're

510
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: gonna draft one of two. You would think so it

511
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: would be a great number two. But how's going to

512
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: be back. I'd rather have that coaching.

513
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: The new coaching staff might come in and say, we

514
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: don't like Sam Howe at all. We didn't like him

515
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 1: in the draft. Jocobe, you're our. I mean, if it's

516
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: Belichick in Washington, then Bursetts, then Bursett's gonna be the

517
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna.

518
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Be the opening day starter. Yeah. Yeah, I love Berseett.

519
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean I mentioned many times if the Steel's on

520
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: Bagrat Rudolph, he's my next it would be my next thought.

521
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt yea uh, Jake Browning in Cincinnati.

522
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Cincinnati, I go for Rudolph.

523
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: Well, then the Steelers signed Browning. I'd rather have Rudolph. Well, no,

524
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: but Browning is going to go back, I would think so. Yeah,

525
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: it's like the Huntley He's like a folk hero now

526
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, it's like.

527
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: The Huntley conversation. He's like the perfect backup for Burrow.

528
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: He's light, light light. Plus he's gonna be super expensive.

529
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're spending that much on Burrow. You

530
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 2: don't want to give Mason eight million.

531
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: No, you're not going to do that. But if you're

532
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers, you want you're going to give Mason eight millions.

533
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, exactly.

534
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: Market testers. These are guys that are going to get

535
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: out there. Uh, Tyrod Taylor, I.

536
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: Think he's a good player.

537
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: He's thirty four.

538
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: I know he's been around a while.

539
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been several years since they punctured his lungan.

540
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. How about him in Indy?

541
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: That would make some sense.

542
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't run as much people think.

543
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'll be honest with you. If I'm

544
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: the if I'm the Giants, I'm interested in bringing might

545
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: be the starter. He might be your starter.

546
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if Tyrod and Jones had a flat out competition,

547
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: he might win.

548
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because they were better with him.

549
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. How about like in Philly. I bet there's five

550
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: teams that'll be calling him. Yeah, yeah, he's desirable.

551
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

552
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: In fact, for New England if they draft Daniels or

553
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: you know what.

554
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: About and say Minnesota, I Cousins isn't ready to start

555
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: the season. If you think you're hey, we got this

556
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: thing right back on the rails here. We were in

557
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: the contention last year.

558
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Would you rather give him seven or Cousins thirty five?

559
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: Or both or both? Okay, I see what you're saying.

560
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Cousins isn't going to be ready to play

561
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: the first month of the season. We don't want to

562
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: bury ourselves. Or if it's the Raiders or yeah, you

563
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Denver, Yeah, from the Raiders, would

564
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: you trade trade your second for fields and sign him?

565
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: Tell Away to O'Connell to pound Salt and yeah, I

566
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: don't go Connell's anything.

567
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: They were weared down about.

568
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Yeah, New England.

569
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking that too, Like, go into the season

570
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: with him and Jayden Daniels. Yeah, it's a lot better

571
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: than what you've been playing with.

572
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, uh Sam Darnald.

573
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald and Wentz are interesting to me. People don't

574
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: seem to like Wentz as a human being or whatever.

575
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't last on it.

576
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: And they don't seem to like Donald as a player.

577
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got talent.

578
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: There's something there. But there there's something missing too, there's Yeah,

579
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: there's the both those guys. The Governor's Screw I think

580
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: is missening on that engine. Yeah, he's just okay, this

581
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: speed all the time.

582
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna makes a lot of the same mistakes. Yeah,

583
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: when when you see a lot of them. Yeah, he's

584
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: younger than Kenny Pickett though he's twenty six, really young.

585
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Locke.

586
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: I always thought Donald or Winston could be the geno

587
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: Smith when they're thirty. Yeah, finally figured out.

588
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: So that one would make some sense for like with

589
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: Locke being a free agent. If you're Seattle, yeah, go

590
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: sign Drew Locke.

591
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, signed Sam.

592
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: Donald, should go sign Sam Donald.

593
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: They should draft one too.

594
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're not gonna be in a position to do.

595
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: There's a handful of these dudes though, the former high

596
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: pick talent guys, including Locke. You know, they haven't worked out.

597
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: But maybe Trubisky's going to be back outs.

598
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: Winston, you know a lot of those guys Wentz. You know,

599
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: Mariota is probably gonna be back out there again. Yeah,

600
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: his ship may have sailed, But yeah, Drew Locke's not bad.

601
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: They seem to love them. Pete Carroll seemed to love them.

602
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe that was why. You know, Pete's not

603
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: going to be there anymore.

604
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: H But you consider I mean, if if Rudolph or

605
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: Brissette fell through, would you consider a guy like Locke

606
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: or Darnald or Wentz or Whins.

607
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna be. That's a pool you're gonna

608
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: be fishing in.

609
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: I know. That's why I don't. The problem with a

610
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: lot of those guys is turnovers. Yeah, I mean, that's

611
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: the Trubisky problem.

612
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: It's the problem. That's the problem. The highest still make

613
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: the highlights plays, but they're going to turn the ball over.

614
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm highly drafted, I got the big arm. I'm a

615
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: playmaker that worked.

616
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: I always made this throw when I was at Washington

617
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: exactly or Utah or or whatever.

618
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: But it's not doesn't fly in the NFC North.

619
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know Ryan Tannehill, he'll be a backup somewhere.

620
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: I think. Or does he flacco it and just sit

621
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: on his couch till someone gets hurt.

622
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: He could do that too, Yeah, I mean, he's played

623
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: a lot of years in the league and made a

624
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of Money's up.

625
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: As an offensive coordinator somewhere, or if Rabel ends up

626
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: at the head coach somewhere, maybe.

627
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe maybe Joe Flacco. I think he does

628
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: the whole sit on the couch thing.

629
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: I mean, rounds try to bring him back, but I'm

630
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: not gonna play for free.

631
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: And they don't know what I mean. You know, what's

632
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: it going to cost him to resign Joe Flacco.

633
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, his last game didn't do him any favors.

634
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: He did not, and that's who he was the entire time,

635
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: and he.

636
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Got away with it. Yeah. I think he'll play in

637
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: the NFL next year. I think Tannehill will play in

638
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: if you like, put him behind Jared Goff or some

639
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: clear number two spot that on a good team.

640
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: If I if I got Jared Goff, they got it.

641
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: They got Hendon Hooker to play, you know, the young guy. Yeah,

642
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to go that route fits for those guys.

643
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: It's all tough. Yeah, they really are. If he wants

644
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: to sit behind Stafford or something like that, you know,

645
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: I get it. Jameis Winston, I'm still a fan, but

646
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't know anymore about him. They did three years ago.

647
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: He's thirty now.

648
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just getting old. Yeah, probably returns.

649
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: I guess in quarterback years. He's not over the hill.

650
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: No, No, he's not car played at okay.

651
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: James miss Winston at this point in his career is

652
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: still younger than Gino Smith was when Gino Smith had

653
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: his resurgence.

654
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I keep seeing that up that somebody else

655
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: will do that. I mean, next year, somebody.

656
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Will one of those dudes right hope that you know,

657
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: maybe somebody makes Baker Mayfield ridiculous offer and Jamis goes

658
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: back to Tampa. Wouldn't that be? Yeah?

659
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and quarterbacks will get hurt.

660
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: And we're you know, if you're Raheem Morris.

661
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: I mean, could he be next year's Baker Mayfield could be? Yeah,

662
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: first overall pick that finds a good spot.

663
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're Raheem Morris and you've coached against Jamis a lot.

664
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Speaker 1: Maybe you say, hey, Jamis, I once come over here

665
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. We can make this work.

666
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Just to go backwards. How about like a Tannehill in

667
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Carolina that would make some sense. Something like that, you know,

668
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: kind of be my McCown, you know, quarter quarterback whisper. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

669
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: that could make some sense. Jamis intrigues me. He intrigued

670
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: me for the Steelers when the Trubisky off season. But

671
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: this team can have a quarterback to throws a ton

672
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: of picks.

673
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: No, they just they're not built that way. No, right,

674
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean I just don't know that he's he throws

675
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: a ton of picks.

676
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's little. He might not throw thirty. But

677
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: if he throws twenty, that's too many. Yeah.

678
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I so like him, Josh Dobbs.

679
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you, Josh.

680
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't even talk about turnovers.

681
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do.

682
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon, I.

683
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 2: Went someone with us. I mean, at least the guys

684
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: we talked about it.

685
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Speaker 1: And this is why I'm willing to get to give

686
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: Rudolph a little bit more money to stay. You don't

687
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: because I don't want to fish in this pond.

688
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you can win with that guy.

689
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's He's not Ryan.

690
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm not cark fishing here. I'm not. I'm not cantfish.

691
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I want to go. I'm going to fishing for a

692
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: large mouth bass.

693
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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, at least like Minshew can bring a spark,

694
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, he doesn't.

695
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. It's already thirty one now, he's old. Yah,

696
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Speaker 1: I don't think the same. I don't think he plays

697
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: anywhere next year, he said, unless he unless he resigns

698
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Speaker 1: with the Rams.

699
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Maybe McVeigh likes him, Yeah, maybe maybe have no clue.

700
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Speaker 2: I mean played in that last game and ran the

701
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: ball a thousand times. Yeah, and Week eighteen, which I

702
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: didn't think he was that could a runner to begin with.

703
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the group, that's what you got.

704
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Russell Wilson's not on that list.

705
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Yeah, he's not been. Trumisky's not on that list.

706
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be a couple of there'll be some other

707
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: guys that are Field on that list. But yeah, he's

708
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: not free. You would have to trade for him. Yeah,

709
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: but it's not great. No, it's my two favorite of

710
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: Rudolph and Brssett.

711
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: It's not like it has been in previous years. When no, you.

712
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: Know, no, I don't think cousins are Baker leaving.

713
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

714
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: And I don't know they make you enough better that

715
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: they're worth the price. Yeah, especially Mayfield. I can't imagine

716
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Tom Win wanted to play Mayfield turnovers. Yeah.

717
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you coached against that guy, you saw you

718
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you turned him over a bunch of times.

719
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Speaker 2: I think you liked coaching against him. Yeah, right, that

720
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Speaker 2: the age of his career.

721
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's all part of it as well.

722
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, these guys.

723
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Speaker 1: Minshew has some of that in him. Now, he didn't

724
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: do that against in the game against the Steelers. He

725
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: has some of that in him as well. That's part

726
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: of the issue with Minshew, is it.

727
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: But he's a two. I mean, like, no one looks

728
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: at him as like he'll beat out Kenny and be

729
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: the one forever. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick to me. Yeah, he'll

730
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: always be. He comes off the bench, ignites the team,

731
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: and this year he.

732
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Speaker 1: Did for a long facial hair, you know.

733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everyone loves him. He's fun in the

734
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: locker room, and you know he's gonna last in the

735
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: league for twelve years long as he wants. Yeah, but

736
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: he's never going to be thought of as a starter.

737
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: And you can't win with him as your starter really.

738
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Speaker 2: I mean what the Colts got out of him was

739
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: the best I think you could ask for.

740
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you still didn't get into the playoffs no, right,

741
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: right at the end. He still cost you.

742
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you always have to work around him.

743
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of those.

745
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: There, sure are and if you're going to be that

746
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: guy that the team has to work around, you can't

747
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. That's the key thing. Yeah, yeah,

748
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: like if you're not the engine, right, you can't turn

749
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the ball over.

750
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: No, you can't. I mean you have to be so extreme,

751
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: if be far, if you have to be alan, you

752
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: have to be that guy that's that can live with

753
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 2: the lows. None of those guys are. And a lot

754
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: of the former first round picks have those traits, you know,

755
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: like Darnold, Yeah, but he made a lot of great

756
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: throws and then what was that one?

757
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, where did that one come?

758
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

759
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing I think people overlook in the

760
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: whole picket Roodolph conversation. That's what the Steelers couldn't live

761
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: with with Trubisky. Right, Okay, if you're not going to

762
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: make the routine plays, you make a couple of highlight plays,

763
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, you can't turn the ball over.

764
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe make two throws a game that those

765
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: two don't, But then you make two that they wouldn't, right,

766
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: and you still miss a lay up here and there, like, sorry,

767
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: you can't do it, can't do it.

768
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: They can't. They the Steelers do not want to live

769
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: in that. They don't want to live that way. If

770
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: you don't have the star coarts, you don't have.

771
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: No really built to it anymore. I mean like if

772
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: you threw the Bills in for Allen getting injured or

773
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: Trubisky in there in Buffalo, they'd be picking in the

774
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: top eight. Yeah, mitching, I'm not trying to tear up

775
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: a mitch. I mean it's same with Winston and Wentz.

776
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, you just can't turn the ball over. And

777
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, I get it people are angry with picket

778
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: wall Pickett doesn't throw enough touchdown passes, I get it, right,

779
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: But he also doesn't turn the ball over.

780
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: No, right, And these are the options.

781
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Yes, right, you know you're not You're not in a

782
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: position yesterday.

783
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to do with that. I don't think Tannehill

784
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: is a good fit, right, I mean, would you be

785
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: thrilled about Pickett and Tannehill in camp?

786
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: Right?

787
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Maybe?

788
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. Maybe Cousins is that guy

789
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: that that Okay, he won't turn it makes you better,

790
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: he makes you a better team, but he also means

791
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: you can't do anything else.

792
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, these other when we start talking free agents,

793
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: and I want to center, I want to tackle in

794
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: the corner.

795
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: I want The draft isn't gonna fill all those needs.

796
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: No, No, those are bargain and the Steelers have been

797
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: good at that. Like, here's a five million dollar player

798
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: that's been on the market for two weeks, so you

799
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: can get for three point five Yeah, now I'm buying you.

800
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: Now you're buying Yeah.

801
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Now you can't do that team anymore.

802
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Right. And the other thing is, you know you're running him.

803
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I think he's a two year deal

804
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: right wherever he signs at like seventy five million. Yeah,

805
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean guaranteed probably, he's always got guaranteed.

806
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: He's always got Yeah. That's where his agent starts to

807
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: talk that, Yeah, fully guaranteed money. His agent does good

808
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: work too, Yeah, Yeah, I'd like I'd like to have

809
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: him as my agent.

810
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if Minnesota doesn't bring back Cousins, they're gonna

811
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: end up with like a Tannehill or something, right, I mean,

812
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: and they.

813
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Just spent the whole They're not That's why they they're

814
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: not going to do that, because they just had to

815
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: go the whole season piecing it together with duct tape at.

816
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 2: Quarterback I felt bad for the read coach. Yeah, I mean,

817
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: it was just a new quarterback every time, and it

818
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: was oh, he only turned it all over three times.

819
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Right, genius. Yeah. Yeah, we made seventeen plays and we

820
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: won the game by you know, by accident because he

821
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: turned the ball over three times.

822
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's all they were at the end.

823
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I I again, to me, the

824
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: turnovers are the biggest thing that you can't have at

825
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You hope that the new offensive coordinator,

826
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: whoever that might be, can scheme it up to make

827
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: the offense run more consistently, but you can't have the

828
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: You can't have the turnover as a quarterback.

829
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: No, you can't. I mean it's going to be one

830
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: of the most pivotal things. Like some of those early

831
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: picks on that list intrigued me, Donald Wentz, I mean Winston.

832
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: But I also think this league gives those guys way

833
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: too many opportunities because they're so physically talented. I mean,

834
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: how many times can they show you that they don't

835
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: process well enough. You know, we just saw it with Trubisky.

836
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean he's been for two years and you know

837
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: he hasn't changed much. You know and he is who

838
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: he is, you know.

839
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So keep that in mind when you're watching the

840
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: free agent market in the quarterbacks and when people are

841
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks. I just think that the Steelers value

842
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: guys who don't turn the ball over to such a

843
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: great You could live with it with Ben Roethlisberger because

844
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: he knew at the end of the game the old

845
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys still had some tricks up his sleep.

846
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I mean that's but that's.

847
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Not how you want to you don't. You don't want

848
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to live that way with If your quarterback's not.

849
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: You're not getting the next Ben, right, you know, I

850
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: mean for next year at least, that's for sure. I

851
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: am interested. And I don't know the answer to this

852
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: at all. But there's some sneaple guys that are pretty

853
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: intriguing too.

854
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: That but they're developmental guys.

855
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not starting next year type dude. But I'm

856
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: talking about like round three, you know, Spencer Rattler, you know,

857
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: those type of dog.

858
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in that, but I'm not interested in

859
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: this free agent market beyond getting Mason Rudolph back.

860
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Brissett's.

861
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: The other one would be Brissette would be there, but

862
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: that would be the fallback option, and I think he'll

863
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: have other options.

864
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: I do too. I think there's a better chance Forsett's

865
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: Week one starter somewhere than Rudolph.

866
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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.

867
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player.

868
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Speaker 1: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up the

871
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Speaker 1: show right after this. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson. And uh, well, Matt,

873
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: we're talking there about quarterback position for the Steelers, obviously,

874
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: sure and uh. The Steelers interviewed yesterday Thomas Brown, the

875
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: former coordinator for the Carolina Panthers. He was there for

876
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: one year, but he had been on McVeigh staff.

877
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay. I don't know much about him, and he was.

878
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: Kind of he was like their run game coordinator in uh.

879
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: In Carolina, No, in La in La Okay.

880
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: And became running Yeah, became the offensive coordinator this year

881
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: under Frank Reich. In Carolina. They split.

882
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean they were a terrible offense in Carolina, but

883
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: they ran the ball well. Only that that's Reich's fault

884
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: or his fault. I mean, that was a dysfunctional group

885
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: that nobody could get open with a quarterback over his head.

886
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: But you're right, they did run the ball well. And

887
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: I don't know much more about him, but I like

888
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: the McVeigh thing. I mean interesting. Okay, Yeah, so they're

889
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: doing their due diligence.

890
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: They are doing that, and you know, I see people

891
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: immediately discount him. Well, they can't hire him. He had

892
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: no success in Carolina. I don't care who you hire here. Yeah,

893
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: they're probably going to have been fired at some point.

894
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt that's going to happen.

895
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you sit down with them and he's

896
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: got creative ideas and you know, has a system for

897
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: developing quarterbacks and learned a bunch from the McVeigh time, sure,

898
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: I mean I'm all yours.

899
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that's again. There are certain offenses

900
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: that I want to be I'm interested in.

901
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of McVeigh stuff.

902
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: Is so now they've you know, some of the other

903
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: stuff that they this is the only one that they've

904
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: they've confirmed that they spoke to.

905
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: Oh.

906
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: Really, you know, there's you know, they're going to talk

907
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: to Zach Robinson. They're going to talk to this guy,

908
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: They're going to talk to that guy. We just don't

909
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: know that. There's also you know the rumors of Arthur Smith.

910
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard those rumors.

911
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

912
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know what's interesting to me And

913
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe you know this better than I do. Does that

914
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: mean that they're flying these guys in I think a

915
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: lot of it, Yeah, or they go into them, you know, Like.

916
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: I think I think the way this works now, at

917
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: least the way I perceive it, the work is that

918
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: you do the first one by zoom.

919
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: If you're going to do a second interview, then you

921
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: do it in person.

922
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a meal and see the facility.

923
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, okay, we liked we're dating. We're speed dating

924
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: first and then we see if we want to actually date. Okay,

925
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: and you go out to dinner.

926
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: And like all these teams were talking about Belichick, I mean,

927
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: do they go to him or does he go to them?

928
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, is he flying all

929
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: over the country interviewing people.

930
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I know he went to Atlanta for the first interview.

931
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: That I mean Atlanta I think is different because he's

932
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: been there twice and was really rumored to be in there,

933
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: which he didn't get. But and I thought most of

934
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: this is zoom, which is that a half hour call, and.

935
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: I think there can be up to like eight hours.

936
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: I know they can go all day. I know, like coaching,

937
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: especially head coaching interviews are like a twenty four hour

938
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: process at time. Yeah, they're extensive, but that's what I mean. Like,

939
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: was this one in Kingsbury and Robinson, assuming they all happened,

940
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: are they all equal? Is one of them like an

941
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: hour long call? Was one of them an all day call?

942
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Like the ones that tell these things, right?

943
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know those answers only people on

944
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: the planet. No, But I do think the whole interview

945
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: process is interesting and kind of secretive.

946
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: No, it is, and that's all you know, part of

947
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: this process. Yeah, so you know they're just just know

948
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are doing their due diligence with this, like.

949
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna happen to snap a finger

950
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: first guy you meet, type of And.

951
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of been the way it's been around the league.

952
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of almost lower than

953
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I thought, and that the coordinators have taken some time

954
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: this year.

955
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes me also think that the teams that

956
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: are still alive are going to lose some people, you know,

957
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: I mean, whether it's a head coach or a quarterback

958
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: coach or whatever. I do think the Ravens, Niners, Lions,

959
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: and Chiefs are gonna get pillaged a little bit, you know,

960
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: at least a couple of those teams.

961
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a there's a chart out there and

962
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: I can't find it now that somebody's putting out a

963
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: chart with all the head coaching openings, who the play

964
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: callers are, who the coordinators are, and those things don't

965
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: always match up a lot of times, just their head

966
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: coach and then and then the defense. And there are

967
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: a lot of open spots on that chart around the league, like.

968
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: A graph almost, but yeah, there's an opening, there's an

969
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: open there's a whole It kind.

970
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Of gives you an idea of of who.

971
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: Because I don't have to really dig in how many

972
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: coordinator spots are truly open.

973
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: And it's more than you think there.

974
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: It's quite a few. So along those lines, they extended

975
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: Austin today right or yesterday?

976
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was that's been That's kind of

977
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: what happens with all coaches.

978
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: You keep on. But I mean he's they're happy with that,

979
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: which is good. No, I'm intrigued with the offense coordinator thing.

980
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: I think it's the biggest story around the team right now.

981
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the next shoe that's going to drop.

982
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt it's going to be. That's the

983
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: one that kind of sets up the rest of the offseason.

984
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: So what kind of quarterback do they want?

985
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: You know, what kind of what kind of receivers do

986
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: they want? They want to do with it? You know,

987
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: there's so much of the marriage there I think has

988
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: to do with what how do you how do you

989
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: foresee pulling the people that we've got because it still

990
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: is the youngest, one of the youngest offenses in the league.

991
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: It was the third youngest. Yeah, when you look at it, Yeah.

992
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: And you know they're locked in with a lot of

993
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: these guys. They don't have the entire starting lineup. Basically, Nick, I.

994
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: Don't think they're an hire a fast coordinator that says, boy,

995
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: I think picking up the fifth year option on Nause

996
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense because he has a run a

997
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: four to two. Yeah, I think they're you're getting somebody that.

998
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: You want, somebody who knows how to use a power back.

999
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: You want somebody who knows how to employe Jayalen Warren.

1000
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: You want somebody who we've talked about this is going

1001
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: to understand that Pat Fryermouth needs to be a bigger

1002
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: part of the These are all things that you need

1003
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: to do.

1004
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: Give us your scouting report on Kenny Pickett, you know,

1005
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: tell us what he needs to do better and why

1006
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: you can make him better. Yeah, those type of things.

1007
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: You're not gonna to me, you know. Oh, let's go

1008
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: get somebody somebody from the Dolphins. Well, you're not going

1009
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: to run that offense.

1010
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: No, with a lot of small, fast people.

1011
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you don't have that personnel.

1012
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: No. And and I hate one of my problems that

1013
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: the SIEL is the best in the league at is

1014
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 2: when you make wholesale coaching changes, you have to throw

1015
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: so much out or stick square pegs into round holes

1016
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: because you can't revamp the roster overnight.

1017
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: And if you are, you're taking a step backwards anyways. Yeah,

1018
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm a personal guy by heart. You know

1019
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: they're not interested in taking a step backwards.

1020
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I think they look at it

1021
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: like we're pretty close.

1022
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: We're ten and seven. What puts us over the top?

1023
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Now, what can we make game? How can we have,

1024
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: you know, get the thirty passing touchdowns this year? No

1025
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: matter who's doing it, to get to twenty, it would

1026
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: be a good step, right, you know, better get to twenty.

1027
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what they're that's the way this thing

1028
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: is going. That's going to do it for the show today.

1029
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.

1030
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We'll continue back again tomorrow. Tomorrow we

1031
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: make our picks in the championship games, we.

1032
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Pick our DFS lineup games. Yeah.

1033
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's gonna be a lot of fun. I know

1034
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: we've we've talked a little bit about those, but not

1035
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Just we're in Pittsburgh. It's a Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio.

1037
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I'm digging into draft and free agency, have

1038
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: you too?

1039
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that's going to do it for the Drive today.

1040
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: So for my partner Matt Williamson, uh, for Justin Miller

1041
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: here on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lallie.

1042
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Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 1: Drive on Steeler's Nation Radio.