1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Advice shooters, it's time never love a lower low. Welcome 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: to the naught even nice show, your host, Rub Shooter. 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: It is Thursday morning, which means our dear friend Marco 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Loopo joins us. Hey, Loopy, you're giggling already? Are you there? 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Loopy? 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Lewis here? Hey Rob, Hey you look at delicious. You've 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: just got out the shower. Mark. 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: I could tell every Thursday morning it's do you get it. 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Early, especially for the podcast on Thursday? Or are you 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: an early riser? 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: I wake up around six six thirty, and then I 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: got the notes, I read the stories, and I make 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: sure I feel like confident about what we're talking about 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: when I take a shower. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Oh, so prepared. That's why you're successful because you do 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: the work. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to do the work. You can't just 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: show up and not do the work. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: A couple of times early on in my career, I 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: used to think I could just win it. I thought, oh, 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: this is not that, dear fair. Could I can be 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: interesting for six minutes or four minutes on a TV. No, 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: you can't do the work because if you've got nothing 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: to say, you can't pull off the segment you've worked 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: in TV for a long time. You can really tell 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: the difference between those who do the work and those 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: who don't. 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen a few crash and burns in 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: my time, and it's then you just lose the shot 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: to do it again. It's sad. 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's what it is. I think 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: this is relevant to all our lives. When I was 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a publicist, when my clients used to do television, I 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: always told them, listen, the secret here. The goal here 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: is not actually to sell an album or to sell 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: a movie. It's to get invited back. If you get 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: invited back, that means that you've done a good job. 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: And we want a long term relationship with these shows. 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: We don't want you just on once and never again. 40 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: If you're not very good, you don't get invited back. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Right and listen, Rob, you make it look easy, but 42 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: I know you put the work in. Oh, its work. 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: I do the work. Okay, talking about doing the work, 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: but share it with you what I is it my 45 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: friends at els d Times so Banks story at the 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: top of the show. I love this story, and you 47 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: could take this story two different ways. I'm going to 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: choose to take it in a positive way, so Kelly 49 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Clarks and he's struggling. We broke this story first. We 50 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: were the first people to tell you that her show 51 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: might not come back. Now she has been renewed for 52 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: one more season, but she's really struggling. She took a 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks off. All that's fine, Kelly, you look 54 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: after yourself. However, it is a multimillion dollar business. Television 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: is not a business that you can just sort of 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: let's see what happens. No, it is a multi million 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: dollar enterprise. So NBC rightly, so, there's nothing shady here. Rightly, 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: so have come up with a backup plan if Kelly 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: doesn't renew. Should they just replace a Hoder's name has 60 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: come up? Or should they start a brand new talk show? 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: That's another option for him. It's very expensive to do that. Well, 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: hod his name came up, and at first Holder was 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: very coy, saying, oh no, no, no. She was on 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: the Today Show. No no, no, no, no no no, Savannah, 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: if ever I came back to TV, it'd be sit 66 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: next to you. Days later, she did Adney Cohen's show 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and said I'm interested. I'm on that show. Now that 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Kelly has canceled her show in Vegas, and that was 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: actually pretty dramatic. Ninety minutes before a show to cancel it. 70 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Something's going on. Holder has reached out one more time 71 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: to make sure everybody does know we we need a replacement. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm available. I don't think this is shady. I think 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: this is smart. This is how you get drubs. It's 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: not being a vulture. It's not waiting for the body 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: to die. This is just I think, being really savvy. 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: And let's face it, even though Hoder is brilliant, and 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: she is, she's a really good person. I've known her forever. 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: She's also to a real player. You don't get to 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: host the Today Show. You just don't unless you are 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: a player. Unless you play the system. You've got to 81 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: work that really hard. And so Holder is brilliant at 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: what she does that. This is not a dig at Hoder. 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: It's really not. But I think it's a move that 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: we should all look around and be like, oh my goodness, 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: maybe we should be a little bit more pushy. 86 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: What do you think I think we are? Should And 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: I think there's an expression I really love it goes 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: stay ready so you don't have to get ready. 89 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: And so's say it again, Marka. 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: Like, it's statay ready, so you don't have to get ready, 91 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: and Hoda's ready. She's there. And that's what it comes 92 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: down to. Is she devailable. And I think too. You know, 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: it's not an easy job. It's very complicated and it's 94 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: time consuming. And I think when you are trying to 95 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: sell stuff in your life, you know, the Hodah has 96 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: this wellness brand, this this thing that she's trying to push. 97 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: It's great to have a base where you can promote 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: it and bring people in, you know, every day and 99 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: pand her to millions of people. And I think, if anything, 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: she wants to really launch this, this next step in 101 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: her life, a little you know, love from the talk 102 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: show wouldn't. 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: Hurt, doesn't her national talk show? Doesn't her? Let me 104 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: take you a little secret. When I started doing the 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Today Show almost every other week, a couple of times 106 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: a month, I was Andy Cohen's understudy. So Andy was 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: booked on to do a gossip and entertainment segment every Monday, 108 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: and he just wasn't that into it. And Andy was 109 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: working on Sunday nights and then afterwards he probably went 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: out to the boom Boom Room with his friends for 111 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: a drinky boo and I didn't really want to get 112 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: up so that Today Show. Really I was like the 113 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: understudy when Andy wasn't available, would I fill in? And 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: there's no shame in that. There's nothing wrong with that. 115 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of opportunities by making it very 116 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: clear to people I might not be your first choice, 117 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: but when your first choice doesn't work out, Rob Shula 118 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: can be there in ten minutes. I've often filled in 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: for guests. Then I do a good job and get 120 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: invited back. It's getting your foot in the door. Now 121 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: hold us. Foot is very much in the door of NBC. 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: They love her, they know they didn't really want her 123 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: to leave the Today Show, but now this opportunity might 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: come up, and it doesn't come up that often. Let 125 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: me explain. I think a lot of people are like, 126 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: why don't you have a talk show? Why don't you 127 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: do a talk show? There's not that many opportunities if 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: you think about it. Television only has so many hours 129 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: a day, and each of those hours is already locked up, 130 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: and Kelly Ripper's going nowhere, and GMA is going nowhere, 131 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and so it's very very rare that all of it 132 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: alliance that somebody leaves that there's an opportunity and then 133 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: you get it. This is an opportunity and Holder is 134 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: really really savvy. Let's remember when Matt Lauer got fired. 135 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Holder was not the first choice. It was going to 136 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: be somebody else. They were really looking at Willy Geist 137 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: and they even tried Willy out and it didn't quite 138 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: work out as they wanted it to. The numbers weren't 139 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: quite there. And it was Holder who said, you know what, 140 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity. Do you grab opportunities? Noughties? When 141 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity comes along, do you grab it? Would you 142 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: cloak yourself in this excuse? Oh it's too vulgar, it's 143 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: too rude. I couldn't possibly do that. I'll look too pushy. 144 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Which brings us to 145 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Holder has makeing a 146 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: power move as Kelly slips, and I'm worried about Kelly. 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm sending Kelly or our best. She's a professional. She 148 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: isn't somebody that just canceled shars, particularly nineteen minutes before 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the actual curtain. So she's having a little bit of trouble. 150 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: What do you think is Holder a good trie to 151 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: replace Kelly Clarkson. Yes or no go vote on our 152 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Twitter page at Naughty Nice rob our facebook page is 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: sure to check down my raval to hear your results. Hey, Lupie, 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: what are you working on? 155 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: H Yeah, yeah, So rich Denise Richard's daughter Sammy is 156 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: threatening to tell Alle after the collapse of her mom's marriage. Yikes. Okay, so, 157 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: just one day before Aaron Fifersville for divorced from Denise Richards, 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: their daughter Sammy went viral for a TikTok about spotting 159 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: red flags and leaving a toxic relationship. So no insiders 160 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: tell Shooter Soup that she's sitting on some serious secrets 161 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: about the parish crumbling union us furs as, saying she's 162 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: seen the fights, the tension, and she's not afraid to talk. Rob. 163 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: What do you think she does everything? I liked this, Saba. 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I think she has an only fans page, which I'm 165 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: not a subscriber to. I don't need to see Denise 166 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: naked or Sammy half naked either. It's not my thing. However, 167 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Sammy has struggled trying to find an identity. Her mom 168 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: is der niece, her dad is Charlie Sheen. It's difficult, like, 169 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: what is she gonna do? She's not really an actress. 170 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I think she did a little bit of modeling. Now 171 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: she's doing only fans, which makes me cringe a little bit. 172 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm being judgy here, but you know I'm 173 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: apprude about all that sort of stuff. And so Sammy's 174 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: looking for an opportunity, and I think she's figured out 175 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that when she talks about her mom and dad, we 176 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: talk about her. What are we doing right now? We're 177 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: talking about Sammy. I wouldn't be talking about Sammy Sheen otherwise. 178 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: I have a rule on the show. If I say 179 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: the name mark and you can't visualize them, you can't 180 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: picture them, then they're not the right celebrity for us. 181 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Like when I say Madonna, you know what I'm talking about. 182 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: When I say Jennifer Anison, you know who I'm talking about. 183 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock. You've got the picture in your mind, Sammy Sheen, Mack, 184 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: give me the picture in your mind. 185 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Blank, no picture. 186 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's barely a picture on Denise. I'm going 187 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: to text me and I always get a mixed up 188 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: with Lisa Redner. Well, Denise is a very interesting person. 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I've known her for years, and as much as she 190 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: likes fame and the spotlight, she's quite controlling about the message. 191 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: She still thinks she's a movie star. I remember when 192 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: she was a Bond girl, even though she's been doing 193 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot of reality TV. Although her show has not 194 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: been picked up by Bravo for a sex season, I 195 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: know it hasn't been officially announced, but sources tell me 196 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: that is over. I feel for Denise here. It's very, 197 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: very tricky to have the source from coming from within 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: your own house. This would be like Jonathan, your brother 199 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: gossiping about you. Lupie. 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: Not great. But I think listen, it sounds like she's 201 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: supportive of her mom. It sounds like she's pushing this 202 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: on to her stepdad. She has had a difficult life, Charlie. 203 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: She is such a mess, or he was a mess 204 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: during the years that her formative years when she was 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: growing up, and so she's been through a lot, and 206 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: I you know, it seems like she is lost and 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: by sharing those things on the internet and it doesn't help, 208 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: It just creates more problems. But it does bring to 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: your point where we're talking about her. We wouldn't otherwise 210 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: be talking about her. 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what they want. I think you would 212 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: hear Sammy. And just on a side note, I can't 213 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: wait to hear all the secrets too. I mean, I 214 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: try to pretend that it's a terrible thing, and how 215 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: could she betray her mom? I'm all is Mark, I'm 216 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: all as Sammy sing like a canary. Okay, moving along. 217 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez's sister, I didn't even know she had one, 218 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: had to ask permission to post pictures from the wedding. 219 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: So there's been only a few pictures from this wedding. 220 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Official pictures. The cover of Vogue really photoshopped. Oogeous, gorgeous pictures. 221 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: These two are very careful about that image. And a 222 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of people were there, two hundred people. Where are 223 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: all the cell phone pictures? Mark? Where are all the videos? 224 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: If you and the Europe were at this wedding, Mark, 225 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: we'd take pictures of one another. We definitely would take 226 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: a picture of Laurence dress. We would be there in 227 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Oprah's business. We would take a lot of pictures. No 228 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: pictures from this wedding until Iren's sister Elaina started to 229 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: post some pictures behind the scenes. Now, let me be clear, 230 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: nobody you're sweating or picking their nose in these pictures. 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: They're the very styled pictures, they're very gladus. They don't 232 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: look like they were taken on a cell phone. They 233 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: look professionally taken. So I hit the phones. I said, 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: what's going on here? They said yes, she had to 235 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: ask permission, and so she showed her sister Lauren the 236 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: pictures and said, do you mind if I post these now? 237 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: I was at a wedding just a few weekends ago, Mark, 238 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: and I think I posted a picture just myself, but 239 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: I didn't ask permission. Do you think if you're at 240 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: a wedding you have to get permission from the bride 241 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: and groom to post something? Where are you on that? 242 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't think normally, but I think in this instance, 243 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, Lauren feels like someone who is better seen 244 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: than heard. So for example, when you saw her after 245 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: she got that spaceship, she just sounded kind of crazy, 246 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: and I think it's better for her to be you know, 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: edited and to be produced. And so when you see 248 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: her in the in the wild, when you see her natural, 249 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: you start to realize, like the facade and everything, And 250 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: so I think you know, she's trying to protect her image, 251 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: and she also is married to one of the richest 252 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: people in the world and the world they can say no, 253 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: they can tell you no, you cannot post. 254 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: This, you cannot post that picture. That's gonna upset Lauren. 255 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Lauren now is the creator that fabily. Can you imagine 256 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: your sister, your brother married a billionaire, Mark, what would 257 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: you do if you married a billionaire? 258 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Lauren's brother was kind of messies. 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: When he's messy. I mean, she has to, you know, 260 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: remind herself that her brother cause a major issue leaking 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: Jeff bezos private pictures to the to the world. 262 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: You said it, darna google that. So that's a little 263 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: bit of her tease. Okay, quickly before we go to 264 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: break Jerry Hallowell, who was a spy s girl, remember 265 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: her Ginger Spies. She's standing by her man after he 266 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: was caught sexting. Oh Mark, what is going on? 267 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: This is sad? So Jerry Hallwell is she's still wearing 268 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: her ring but it's he like it's getting heavier by 269 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: the day. So after Christian Horner's shocking firing from the 270 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Red Bull Racing one year after his sexing scandal. The 271 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Spice Girl's shaken and humiliated, but she's not walking away yet. 272 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: A source revealed she forgave him once, but this latest 273 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: blow is having her in a spiral. She's not sure 274 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: how much more she can take. Oh. 275 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Oh, it's really tricky, isn't it. He's a very good 276 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: looking guy. I mean, I know that shouldn't make any difference. 277 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying if you're ugly, you can't sex, if 278 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: you're beautiful, you can't sex. I'm not saying that. It's 279 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: a very difficult one here. She's got a man she 280 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: really likes, she's got a baby, she has this life 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: that she now adores, and her husband was caught on 282 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: his phone sending naughty messages. Is that the same as cheating? Mark? 283 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: How do you fall on this? Well? 284 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: I went through the text messages. They were not so wild. 285 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: They're pretty. They're pretty, They're very nosy, they were kind 286 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: of tame. I mean, listen, it's inappropriate because it was 287 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: an employee of his, and that is just a no 288 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: no in the workplace. I don't know the relationship. I 289 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: don't you know, I don't know the agreement is they 290 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: have together? If that's okay in their marriage, but it is. 291 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: If it's not, then I would be a little disappointed, 292 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: and I would wonder, you know, what's going on and 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: how far it went. 294 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: But they felt flirty to me rather than sexting. There 295 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: was no naked pictures as far as my knowledge is concerned, 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and there was no really vulgar words or explicit words, 297 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: but they definitely was was a flirting there. But I 298 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: think Mark, if you read through our text messages, we 299 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: sometimes a flirty, giggly, silly gooses, and so you can 300 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: read into it, can't you. And so I want to 301 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the downs here. I think 302 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I could forgive this. So I'm not sure I could 303 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: forgive an affair. If you hooked up with somebody, AH 304 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: would be furious. But if you send someone a naughty 305 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: little note, Mark, I mean we've all said stuff. I've 306 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: certainly said in appropriate things at work. I try not 307 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: to any more. The world has changed, but I'm sure 308 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you have too, Mark. 309 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if our text messages were public, 310 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: you know, we send some naughty pictures sometimes another right right, right, right. 311 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. 312 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: It's yeah, this is unfortunate. He lost his job. I'd 313 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: be more concerned about him and losing this job. Where's 314 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: a paycheck coming from next? You know? 315 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, So you'll have to go back out 316 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: on tour. All up scary and we're going to go 317 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: and tell me what you want, what you really really want. Okay, 318 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: We're going to take out quick break and will be 319 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice. I'm 320 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: your usband Shooter with our dear friend Mark Luper. Mark 321 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: going on three four five years doing this podcast. 322 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying crazy, I love it. 323 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Do you still enjoy it too? 324 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: I know it's fun. You know, we have a good 325 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: time every week, and it. 326 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Really does flex that muscle for me of presenting a story, 327 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: giving reporting, making sure what I say actually makes some sense. 328 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: This has been a skill, thank you Naughties, that I 329 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: have taken far beyond the world of podcasting. I'm a 330 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: better public speaker now because of doing this podcast. I'm 331 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: better on television now because of doing this podcasting. It 332 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: really has changed my life. What about you, Mark? 333 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Same? And I look at the comments the feedback from 334 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: the podcast, and people say, like, I appreciate you guys 335 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: being fair and being honest and having like, you know, 336 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: thoughtfulness when you report stories and talk about these topics, 337 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: and I really I think that's what we try to 338 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: do here every week. 339 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that we're fair. We could probably get 340 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: more listeners, have a bigger podcast. If we were more outrageous. 341 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: We could become Joe Rogan if we said crazy things. 342 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: I just don't want to do eat Mark. That's not 343 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: we have. I like a piece of the pie. I 344 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: like that naughtie. I like a piece of the pie. 345 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: We can disagree on the show we often have. We 346 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: don't do politics. Also to my email is the Naughty 347 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Gossip at aol dot com. The Naughty Gossip at aol 348 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to reach me send me notes. 349 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: There there was a little bit of a confusion Mark 350 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: where I gave out my email and nobody sent me 351 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: a note, and I thought nobody loves me. Oh, I 352 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: put the wrong password in my phone, so I was 353 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: getting the messages obviously, and then I figured out what's 354 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: a technical issue. All Now it's fixed the email away. Okay, 355 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: let's get to the polls that da DA last show, 356 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: we told you Jen Aniston is rumored to be dating 357 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: this life coach A hypnotist. Our question, Mars, is a 358 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: life coach a good fit for Jen? Let's have a look. 359 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: Eighty two percent said yes, it's a good fit. I 360 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: like it's not an actor not being successful with actors. Actually, 361 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I think try something. You know. I'd rather go with 362 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: a businessman myself, but I could do a life coach. 363 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: I think I was laughing at you yesterday trying to 364 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: pronounce the manifestation. 365 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it was sad, so funny there in the old days, 366 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: I would have edited that at the show. Now I'm 367 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: quite raw about it unless I say something really crazy 368 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: and I don't and you Mark too, like we've done 369 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: a whole show today. Let me say what. We're eighteen 370 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: minutes in with that one single mistake. You watch that. 371 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna go vote, go vote up to day's go 372 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to the page normally know is wrong. Our Facebook page 373 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: is Naddy gossip and I'm sure to check that. Turn 374 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: my row to hear your results, and don't blow it. Mark, 375 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: You've got one more item, nicest of the day. 376 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm a little nervous now. Pressure sound, so Siri, 377 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: cruise it's unless it's the day for a very special reason. 378 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: She rides the subway just like us. Oh, the nineteen 379 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: year old daughter of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, was 380 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: spotted riding the New York City subway this week, dressed 381 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: casually in a silver crap up and leggings, blending into 382 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: the crowd like any other Manhattan college kid, and sources 383 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: say she's incredibly grounded. She's not choosing fame and she's 384 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: just living her life. 385 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: I like her, and I'm in the same neighborhood as her. 386 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: I see her on the street all the time. She 387 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: used to get a school opposite where I live, so 388 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: I used to see her get a school every morning. 389 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: She's really cool. She's really cool. Dad is like a 390 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: bigger star than maybe anybody in the world and dumped her, 391 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: and everybody knows that story. It's not like it's private, 392 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: and so she has to walk around the world knowing 393 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: that everybody knows her dad and she doesn't. She really 394 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: doesn't know her dad. It's really complicated, and I think 395 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: she has handled this with race with absolute style. Suri, 396 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: we are big fans of yours are nicest of the day, 397 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: and now I'm naughtice of the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, 398 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: naughty and naughticed of the day other royal family again. 399 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: So it looks like Prince Harry is going to be 400 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: snubbed from King Charles's official funeral plans. He will be invited, 401 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: but sources tell me he won't be sitting with Camilla, 402 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: Kate or William. So when the King goes it's an 403 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: awful thing to talk about. But they have to make 404 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: these plans. He's been sick with cancer. Thankfully he seems 405 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: to be doing much better. But they are talking about 406 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: funeral plans. It's a massive, big deal. It's not just 407 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: an easy day. They shut down London like. It's a 408 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: huge deal to plan any event on this sort of scale. 409 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Seating is very important, the seat and arrangements. I'm told 410 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: Harry and Megan will be invited. It is his father, however, 411 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: don't expect them to get the royal treatment. Makes me sad, 412 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: although after what he said about Camilla in that book, 413 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to just pull up a chair and sit 414 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: next to me. So maybe being there but in a 415 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: separate part of the church, the abbey, the cathedral, maybe 416 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: it's a good idea. And what is the day, Let's 417 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: send with a murment of rab you get Rob. You 418 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: don't meet people by accident. Every person who crosses your 419 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: path shows up for a reason. Some are a lesson, 420 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: some are a blessing, and sometimes they can be both. 421 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: They'll challenge you, they can change you. They can open 422 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: your eyes, they can open your heart. Even the painful 423 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: ones can leave an impact. There are no coincidences marks, 424 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: so trust, trust the connections, and learn who you are 425 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: meant to be. I really believe this mark. You came 426 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: into my life. My friends came into my life for 427 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: a reason, some good reasons. You're a good one, some 428 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: bad reasons. Donnie, I'm looking at you. No, he's but 429 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: like trust, trust these connections and you will learn something 430 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: from everybody, sometimes a blessing, sometimes not so much a lesson, 431 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: but you will learn. 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