Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Friar Territory. It's part of the Foul
Speaker 1: Territory Network. I am Darren Smith alongside Marty Caswell, per
Speaker 1: usual and the third member of our team. He's sort
Speaker 1: of a jack of all trades. You never know. We
Speaker 1: could start the show with him, or we can end
Speaker 1: the show with him, or maybe he just comes on
Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. You never know. But
Speaker 1: Kyle Hart, who's a picture with the podres, spending some
Speaker 1: time with us here on Friar Territory as we get rolling.
Speaker 1: You can subscribe to the show on YouTube wherever it
Speaker 1: is that you get your audio podcast. The podres have
Speaker 1: won three straight games. They will face the Brewers as
Speaker 1: we are recording for the second time coming up on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Kyle Heart, welcome to Friar Territory. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much for starting the show with us.
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. Yeah, that's a good intro. I would
Speaker 2: say Mason Miller lives down the street, though, we might
Speaker 2: want to end the show with that guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yeah, Well I like that idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: you never know. I didn't know it till a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes ago that we would start the show with you,
Speaker 1: But like I said, you do a little bit of everything. Kyle,
Speaker 1: how's life treating you? Tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: the experience of twenty twenty six from your standpoint being
Speaker 1: a part of this team, the ups the downs for
Speaker 1: you personally, for the squad itself, it's been an interesting
Speaker 1: year to say the least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean, I like where we're at right now,
Speaker 2: especially as a team for me personally. You know, started
Speaker 2: off all right, spend a little bit of time in Olpaso, obviously,
Speaker 2: kind of come come back up just really to cover
Speaker 2: Mason on his bereavement list, and then you know, was
Speaker 2: lucky enough to pitch well, and a couple other injuries
Speaker 2: and things popped up, so I've you know, just kind
Speaker 2: of ridden that out. But I think last night was
Speaker 2: one of the more fun games that we've had and
Speaker 2: kind of encapsulates like where we're at as a team.
Speaker 2: You know, it could be a rollercoaster of a game,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, try to find
Speaker 2: a way to win it.
Speaker 1: I remember when you got option to triple A and
Speaker 1: I remember specifically something that your manager, Craig Stammon said,
Speaker 1: which was, you know, we told Kyle Hart he is
Speaker 1: a big league player, but this is baseball and it
Speaker 1: becomes a little bit of a numbers game, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's got to explain that decision to you, and sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, you wonder if that's just a little bit
Speaker 1: of lip service. But from Craig Stammon's experience, right having
Speaker 1: performed in that role, it sounded really sincere. And I
Speaker 1: know it's easy to say that sort of stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know that it makes Kyle Hard or anybody else
Speaker 1: in that situation feel better when you're the one on
Speaker 1: the airplane duel Paso, But I wonder if you could
Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit just about you know,
Speaker 1: what that might have meant from his standpoint when he says,
Speaker 1: this guy's a big league pitcher, he should be pitching
Speaker 1: in the big leagues. He will be back pitching in
Speaker 1: the big leagues at some point, but yet you're the
Speaker 1: guy that's ending up packing your backs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty clear, you know, with our
Speaker 2: roster construction, especially the bullpen side of it, like, so
Speaker 2: you know, where's the flexibility at as a move needs
Speaker 2: to be made, And AJ and Josh thinks they were
Speaker 2: very clear when they re signed me. Part of my
Speaker 2: resigning was the flexibility, and so I was appreciative of
Speaker 2: just the upfront ness that I received when it happened.
Speaker 2: And it really wasn't a big deal at all. I
Speaker 2: wasn't pitching bad, but I wasn't exactly tearing it up either,
Speaker 2: So there were some things I kind of went down.
Speaker 2: The familiarity with the Triple A coaching staff helped a lot,
Speaker 2: so we just kind of hit the ground and worked
Speaker 2: on those things, and you know, like I said, opportunity
Speaker 2: opened back up and was able to kind of come
Speaker 2: come out, come back up, and just jump right in.
Speaker 2: So I knew more likely coming into this year I
Speaker 2: would spend a little bit of time down there. Hopefully
Speaker 2: that that time has been filled, but you know, it
Speaker 2: is what it is, and like you said, it's the
Speaker 2: business of this game.
Speaker 3: Kyle.
Speaker 4: I remember a comment you made, I think at the
Speaker 4: last home stand after one of your surprise starts, when
Speaker 4: you mentioned that there was a time when you were
Speaker 4: optioned to El Paso last season and you were in
Speaker 4: a very dark place and Craig Stammond, who was a
Speaker 4: special assistant to aj pub at the time, really got
Speaker 4: you out of that dark place. Could you explain to
Speaker 4: us what happened at that time and what you were
Speaker 4: feeling and what Stamond's role in all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like I don't want people to take
Speaker 2: dark Place wrong. I was just I was just kind
Speaker 2: of down on myself, and not so much even from
Speaker 2: a baseball side. Just you get sent to al Paso.
Speaker 2: My family stayed back in San Diego, so I think
Speaker 2: it was more so being away from them for the
Speaker 2: first time in a while. And you're not where you
Speaker 2: want to be, your career is not going the way
Speaker 2: you wanted to go. I think that's that's the tough
Speaker 2: part of it. But I didn't know Craig really well.
Speaker 2: And he came down watched me pitch. I struggled mightily
Speaker 2: still starting at that point, and he could tell that
Speaker 2: I was not competing the way I needed to be.
Speaker 2: I was just out there throwing, hoping things would go
Speaker 2: well and that I could find myself back on a
Speaker 2: big league roster. And and he kind of lit that fire,
Speaker 2: helped me regain that perspective. And then simultaneously we started
Speaker 2: to make some some mechanical changes and stuff, and and
Speaker 2: so just him coming down there and not going through
Speaker 2: the motions as a special assistant, like Hey, Craig, we
Speaker 2: need you to go down there and check on some guys.
Speaker 2: Like he came down and was willing to to to
Speaker 2: to work and to see like who needed help, who
Speaker 2: needed who needed to look at some things differently. And
Speaker 2: I was certainly one of those guys. So I was
Speaker 2: really appreciative of it, and it quite frankly, helped me
Speaker 2: kind of get back on track.
Speaker 4: You've had, You've had quite the unusual journey in baseball. Really,
Speaker 4: it's an incredible story. You make your debut with the
Speaker 4: Boston Red Sox Red Socks, excuse me, and then you
Speaker 4: don't see you don't see the bigs for for years,
Speaker 4: and you get your chance with the Padres. What is
Speaker 4: it like for you every single time you get an
Speaker 4: opportunity to just to walk into a major league ballpark
Speaker 4: and for them to call upon you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I use the word perspective again because I
Speaker 2: really think I do a good job of not taking
Speaker 2: it for granted with how close I was to probably
Speaker 2: being out of this game. So every day that I
Speaker 2: get to spend time with these guys in the clubhouse,
Speaker 2: on the plane, if we go golf or if I'm
Speaker 2: just sitting back, you know, watching more home through the
Speaker 2: eighth inning. Like, I don't take any of that for granted.
Speaker 2: It really is one of the best jobs you can have,
Speaker 2: and a really special part for me is just bringing
Speaker 2: my family along and getting to experience the things that
Speaker 2: we've gotten to as a group. Has probably been one
Speaker 2: of my favorite things, because, like I said, I was
Speaker 2: really close to probably being done, and and so every
Speaker 2: day is a blessing.
Speaker 1: When you mentioned close to being done. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's because of you know, surgery, coming out of
Speaker 1: college or something along the professional way, but I think
Speaker 1: people know. Also a part of your journey has been
Speaker 1: pitching in Korea. How did that happen? If you could
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit the cliff Notes version of
Speaker 1: how Kyle Hart ended up pitching and pitching successfully, I
Speaker 1: guess winning the equivalent of the cy Young Award in Korea.
Speaker 1: How did that all come about for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a long story. That's a whole other show.
Speaker 2: But the cliff Notes basically, I got on with Tacoma
Speaker 2: in twenty three as a depth piece in Triple A,
Speaker 2: and that's where this particular Korean team scouted me and
Speaker 2: I was throwing eighty nine ninety two maybe and had
Speaker 2: no offers in the twenty four offseason, not even a
Speaker 2: minor league offer, and the NC Dinos reached out to
Speaker 2: my agent. We kind of struck a deal. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: didn't have a whole lot to negotiate and went over there.
Speaker 2: Probably the biggest cliff note is they helped me with
Speaker 2: the sweeper quite a bit, and that pitch propelled that
Speaker 2: season for the most part, and then had helped me
Speaker 2: get back over here in my opinion. Obviously did some
Speaker 2: other things really well too, but was able to stay healthy,
Speaker 2: throw one hundred and sixty innings and and learned a
Speaker 2: new pitch, you know, so that was really really really crucial.
Speaker 1: And the Korean cy Young Award, I hope I'm going
Speaker 1: to go right here, the Choi dong Wan Award. Is
Speaker 1: that right?
Speaker 2: That's correct? Yeah? You should you should google that that
Speaker 2: that man uh after this and and look at the
Speaker 2: career that that guy had. I think he in one
Speaker 2: of the Korean series. It's a seven game series. I
Speaker 2: think he threw three of the five games or something,
Speaker 2: and they were all complete games. I seriously, you should
Speaker 2: look him up though, he's crazy.
Speaker 1: Where is that award? Is that with an arms distance?
Speaker 1: Do you have it with you or is it someone?
Speaker 2: Well? I do not, I do not. It's in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: at home. Yeah, I wish it's really cool.
Speaker 4: Before we take this first break, Kyle can can you
Speaker 4: give us what did you learn any Korean? Much? Do
Speaker 4: you have a phrase?
Speaker 2: My favorite phrase is susan daw, which is basically what
Speaker 2: you say after a game, whether you win or you lose,
Speaker 2: you say susan daw. And that's just a quick way
Speaker 2: of saying like, hey, we worked hard today. You know,
Speaker 2: way to play hard. So I say it to I
Speaker 2: say it to Mooney every day. You say it whether
Speaker 2: we win or lose.
Speaker 4: Mooney's a character, he's he is sneaky, funny. I love
Speaker 4: talking to that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he does.
Speaker 2: Last time.
Speaker 1: I'll stick around here for a second. We do you know,
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about the Brewers, about
Speaker 1: the season? Uh, and continue this conversation. We'll take a
Speaker 1: quick time out here on Friar Territory. We will return
Speaker 1: Kyle Hart picture with the San Diego Padres. We'll hang
Speaker 1: with us here for a couple of more minutes when
Speaker 1: we return after this.
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Speaker 1: All right back with you. It is Prior Territory part
Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network. Subscribe on YouTube wherever it
Speaker 1: is that you get your audio podcast. We appreciate some
Speaker 1: more of his time. Kyle Hart hanging with us here today.
Speaker 1: Thirty one games pitch for the Pods in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: four games started, five games finished. So it's just funny
Speaker 1: to look at the stat sheets see guys like Kyle
Speaker 1: and Wandi Peralta and some of the unique stats that
Speaker 1: you know, the Padres have just had to build through
Speaker 1: here this season. Before we just look ahea it. I
Speaker 1: just have one quick question because I know you went
Speaker 1: to Indiana University, which defending college football champs all of
Speaker 1: a sudden college football power. I grew up thinking about
Speaker 1: Indiana as a basketball school. I know there were a
Speaker 1: really good soccer school. I worked for the Major League
Speaker 1: Soccer team here. I think there's more Hoosiers in MLS
Speaker 1: than any other university. You also, though, were teammates with
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber when you went to Indiana. You guys were
Speaker 1: on the team together for a couple of years. Had
Speaker 1: you end up in Indiana, tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about that. Experience, and obviously everybody knows what Kyle Schwarber's
Speaker 1: become in this league.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, the reason I got to Indiana was Schwarber.
Speaker 2: We were playing summer ball together in Cincinnati for a
Speaker 2: couple of years and he had a few school He
Speaker 2: was almost going to be a Big ten football player.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was an unbelievable linebacker, but he chose baseball.
Speaker 2: Indiana was one of his kind of his top schools,
Speaker 2: and he signed there really early, like early junior year
Speaker 2: of high school, which is late now for the recruiting process,
Speaker 2: but back in that year, it was pretty early, and
Speaker 2: he told me, hey, you need to check this place out.
Speaker 2: I was like a lanky left he throwing eighty five
Speaker 2: to eighty six, which back then again was not terrible.
Speaker 2: And I went over there. They offered me a small
Speaker 2: scholarship and ended up committing. So he was the reason
Speaker 2: I got there, and then we played three years together.
Speaker 2: I stayed five due to injury, and he got drafted
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen and had a crazy quick path to
Speaker 2: the big leagues and has never looked back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now here he is right like setting all
Speaker 1: sorts of records. What he has become in this league
Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible. Kyle, h to the here and now
Speaker 1: with the.
Speaker 2: Po He's the same player too, Sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 2: He's the same player since we were sixteen years old. Like,
Speaker 2: he didn't get drafted out of high school and there
Speaker 2: was forty rounds. I remember being in some middle of
Speaker 2: nowhere tournament in Ohio and he did not get drafted,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if this guy can't get drafted in
Speaker 2: a forty round draft, I'm not going to ever play.
Speaker 2: And he's been the same guy. You could ask him,
Speaker 2: he's the same hit or just the same amount of power.
Speaker 2: He had more speed back then, but.
Speaker 1: Light tower power. Man, his chip is real places I've
Speaker 1: never seen a Peco Park, like, I've just seen him.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm sorry to you, Darvish, but like, I've
Speaker 1: never seen a ball go as far as that at
Speaker 1: Peco Park, and he's done it in other parks as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's definitely a character here. I'm really
Speaker 1: a symbol of modern baseball as well. Kyle. You know
Speaker 1: this team now passed the trade deadline. You started four
Speaker 1: times this year. I think it's so interesting that you know,
Speaker 1: you've really become a glue guy for the podres. You know,
Speaker 1: in an era where we often think that players want
Speaker 1: to have to find roles. I need to know what
Speaker 1: my role is, right because that's how I'm going to
Speaker 1: best form. Your role is like, hey, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't need it to be defined, you know, tell me
Speaker 1: if I'm going to start, tell me a couple hours
Speaker 1: before the game, what do you need me to do
Speaker 1: in the middle? What do you need me to do today, tomorrow, wherever?
Speaker 1: Which is really it's a lot different and contrary to
Speaker 1: everything we've learned about about baseball players. Now we're through
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, tell us what it was like for
Speaker 1: the team that run that you went on right before
Speaker 1: the deadline, and then watching a couple of starting pictures
Speaker 1: come walking through the door there obviously Casey Maiz, we
Speaker 1: saw what he did last night. Or see Robbie Ray
Speaker 1: for the second time on Wednesday? What does that mean
Speaker 1: inside of a clubhouse when you guys fight your tails
Speaker 1: off to put yourself in a position that your general
Speaker 1: manager goes yes, like we're going to invest in this team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So let me start with I think the Praig
Speaker 2: pulled me in spring training. My role was going to
Speaker 2: be a Swiss Army knife. So none of what's happened
Speaker 2: this year has been a surprise at all. Doesn't make
Speaker 2: it easy, No, it doesn't make it easy. But I
Speaker 2: knew that this was going to be the case. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the trade deadline, This is kind of my
Speaker 2: first experience of really like seeing it up close. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I think last year I was in l Passo during it.
Speaker 2: I look back at that Marlin series, those swings that
Speaker 2: Manny and Jackson took. I was sitting in the bullpen
Speaker 2: down there watching those. I think it was back to
Speaker 2: back home runs to win the game, basically, And that's
Speaker 2: kind of when I knew, like, hey, we just battled
Speaker 2: our butts off this ten game road trip. It didn't
Speaker 2: start well, it ended well. This could this could kind
Speaker 2: of be the switch that we needed. And I think
Speaker 2: it was personally and then you know, Peler got aggressive
Speaker 2: at the deadline and brought into really really good arms.
Speaker 2: Obviously we saw it last night. I think the biggest
Speaker 2: thing for me that I've known, professionalism that those guys
Speaker 2: have brought is amazing, and you know you're not going
Speaker 2: to get to know them in one day. And I
Speaker 2: think it's a slow burn, but so far they've been
Speaker 2: really great, and just watching them the way they do things,
Speaker 2: the way that they go about their daily stuff, has
Speaker 2: been something that I've learned from and something that's going
Speaker 2: to be great for us moving forward.
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Speaker 4: Kyle, I know that we're we're scoreboard watching. I'd imagine
Speaker 4: that you guys are as well. But how how big
Speaker 4: was that win last night? And if you're looking up,
Speaker 4: you see you know, the d Backs and they were
Speaker 4: blowing away the Rockies.
Speaker 5: You know, the Phillies had.
Speaker 4: Already won that game, but to win the way you
Speaker 4: guys did a good start from Ksemi's rebound start, a
Speaker 4: huge home run from Jackson Merrill, who's just been on
Speaker 4: a different level lately, and then Mason miller morehone during
Speaker 4: what they do. I feel like that was like a
Speaker 4: signature win for the Padres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was definitely kind of classic Padres right there,
Speaker 2: especially against a team like that, you know, the way
Speaker 2: they throw the ball, I mean really the way they
Speaker 2: do everything. It could it could be a tight one,
Speaker 2: you know, and obviously their guy was really really good
Speaker 2: as he has been, so that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 2: As a swing like that, you know, you get it,
Speaker 2: you get a one out knock and a homer and
Speaker 2: and then you've got to take advantage from our end
Speaker 2: and the bullpen, and we did that. So uh, I
Speaker 2: think when you're you know, you're facing the Brewers, it's
Speaker 2: going to be tough again tonight. They've got one of
Speaker 2: their guys going and their bullpen's probably you know, back
Speaker 2: to strength. So I can't be more proud of Jackson
Speaker 2: and just how well he's he's stuck with it. You know.
Speaker 2: I know it didn't start well for him, but the
Speaker 2: process hasn't changed, and now he's starting to see some results.
Speaker 2: And I think the whole team is just so so
Speaker 2: happy for him and and and ready to just roll
Speaker 2: when he rolls.
Speaker 1: You know, last thing, Kyle you mentioned in Miami, you
Speaker 1: are sitting next to Mason Miller, and you know, we've
Speaker 1: loved watching Mason and the whole bullpen. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: truly one of the great strengths in the sport. He sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to get ready quickly, right because
Speaker 1: you guys have had some of these laden and comebacks
Speaker 1: seventh inning on Monday night. We've seen it in the
Speaker 1: A thing right for all of you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: what is that? What is that like when you're there
Speaker 1: right and you know, I'm sure you guys are chatty
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, baseball is kind of a
Speaker 1: long game. What's it like though, when the switch gets
Speaker 1: flipped for you, for him, for guys in that bullpen,
Speaker 1: when it's like okay, red alert, time to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, part part of my growing experience has
Speaker 2: been learning how to flip the switch. I always said
Speaker 2: when I was starting, I don't understand how the relievers
Speaker 2: do what they do. You know, I felt like I
Speaker 2: needed thirty forty minutes. You need all this prep time
Speaker 2: and everything. So learning how to flip that switch has
Speaker 2: been key for me, and I've learned it from guys
Speaker 2: like Wandy. I mean, watching Wandy is is really been
Speaker 2: a big, a big learning piece for me because he's
Speaker 2: he's been that Swiss army knife two for us this year.
Speaker 2: But but Mason and morohone are are so good at
Speaker 2: it two to where they can be present with you
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you know, you get
Speaker 2: that two out home run or that that two run
Speaker 2: homer and more hones in the game like ten seconds later.
Speaker 2: You know, So they have that they have that ability
Speaker 2: to be so even keel, but they know in the
Speaker 2: back of their mind that one swing a couple at
Speaker 2: bats and this game can get flipped on its head
Speaker 2: and then you know. But that's that level of professionalism
Speaker 2: that we kind of try to carry down there. Mason
Speaker 2: brought it over. It's not like he learned it here.
Speaker 2: He had it, you know. But they also have that
Speaker 2: sixth sense of they know that at any point things
Speaker 2: can change, especially with our offense, and so they they
Speaker 2: never really kind of count themselves out.
Speaker 4: Wait a second, really really quick to clarify there. So
Speaker 4: it's a difficulty in flipping the switch in that situation.
Speaker 4: But you can flip a switch the day of and
Speaker 4: get a text message and find out that you're starting.
Speaker 4: That to me is you.
Speaker 2: Have hours even when you get the TAXX.
Speaker 1: You know, right, all right, well why don't you want
Speaker 1: to know, by the way, the night before if you're starting?
Speaker 1: Is it just something?
Speaker 2: No? No, no. So so they give me, some of
Speaker 2: these guys give me a hard time about it, but
Speaker 2: really what it is is I'm in the bullpen. I'm
Speaker 2: in the bullpen and a couple of times like I've
Speaker 2: been getting ready to pitch in that night's game, you know,
Speaker 2: and then we win or we lose or whatever happens
Speaker 2: the game's over. The last thing I want to do
Speaker 2: is come in from the game we were just playing
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, get ready to pitch tomorrow. You're starting,
Speaker 2: Like I need to give me a few minutes, you know,
Speaker 2: So like I just like to kind of decompress, think
Speaker 2: about the game we just played, come down off of,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you were feeling, and then wake up
Speaker 2: the next day, reset and go from there. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of just it's just like a clean slate thing
Speaker 2: for me. I got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to feel like you're You're
Speaker 1: like you're pitching the same game two days in a row, right, Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: give me a break here. I gotta feel like there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of separation. It's not just this one long,
Speaker 1: long ass a baseball game. So I think that makes
Speaker 1: it in a sense. This has been a pleasure. It's
Speaker 1: been our pleasure, Kyle. Thank you very much for taking
Speaker 1: the time. You know, we've certainly enjoyed watching you pitch
Speaker 1: and all the different roles that you've been asked to
Speaker 1: perform in and we appreciate it. Thanks very much, good luck,
Speaker 1: and we're enjoying the run here. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much, had a great time.