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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Gut Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Rod Joiners, always by my cost, and

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Speaker 3: we're live on a Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Ready to do some podcasts and find us everywhere you

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Speaker 2: get podcasts. The official weapon of the show is and

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Speaker 2: the unofficial sport a.

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Speaker 3: Bulletball extreme extreme US.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any banter? I don't think I have

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Speaker 3: any either.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, you know what, maybe I do have some banter.

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Speaker 2: And I know y'all want to hear the song anyway,

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Speaker 2: let me pull out the banter music.

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Speaker 3: Why I have a hard time finding it? Son of

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Speaker 3: a bitch? What did I do? This was? Here we go?

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Speaker 4: Do you have any? Do you have any? Do you

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Speaker 4: have any banter?

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Speaker 3: Banter? Manter? Banter? Anter? Do you have any? Talk to me?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any? I had a couple of things

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about. The first one is the NBA

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Speaker 2: is returning.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you you updated the CALEDA. I was like, oh, bitch,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I needed to see like how we're going to schedule

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Speaker 2: things for the next few months and stuff, because uh,

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Speaker 2: unlike last year when we had half season tickets and

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Speaker 2: some very nice expensive seats. We downgraded the expensiveness of

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Speaker 2: the seats, but we got a full season of games. Uh,

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Speaker 2: starting with this weekend. That's preseason basketball, preseason, So I

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Speaker 2: guess I'll be preseason hype and going out there to

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Speaker 2: watch us play our probably backups.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: But man, I'm very excited about the NBA season.

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Speaker 2: But just as a show note to everybody, this means

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Speaker 2: episodes are gonna be a bit more sporadic once the

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Speaker 2: season gets started. Yeah, because we're gonna have some weeks

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Speaker 2: where it's just like we're going to two three games

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Speaker 3: So just letting people know.

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Speaker 2: If you're like, oh, man, what happened to the show,

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, we're still doing the show, but it

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Speaker 2: you know, there may or may not be some some

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Speaker 2: times where you're like, oh, I thought I would get

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Speaker 2: we get an episode and you didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I loved nb A.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite sports. Yeah, of all time.

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Speaker 1: I've been a shallow hundred fans since the beginning nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, been down since day one. They're my favorite

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Speaker 1: team and I've always wanted to be able to even

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Speaker 1: afford like full season tickets. So I'm really excited. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I get to go to like all of.

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Speaker 2: The games, you know, I think also, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think we're gearing up for possibly a good season for

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Speaker 2: the Hornets. I think it could go either way, but

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Speaker 2: like I think people are starting to see like the

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Speaker 3: But more importantly than that, I just I was looking

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of games this year where they're

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Speaker 2: There's a game at noon on like the Black Friday. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited about this season and going to these games.

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Speaker 2: So at any rate, just was I was looking forward

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Speaker 3: So yup, the NBA's returning. Very excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited I get to pull out I got like

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Speaker 3: The VP debate is tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as excited as I was about the presidential

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Speaker 2: and I, you know, I knew she was gonna viscerate

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Speaker 2: this nigga. They're not gonna fact check it. But I

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Speaker 2: The fact that you let a guy like jd Vance,

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Speaker 2: social media. Then you can do the shit on the

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Speaker 2: fucking on the day. You can do it right there.

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Speaker 2: And these are such obvious lies. We're not talking about

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Speaker 2: some elaborate fact check where we're saying jd Vance said

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Speaker 2: No, no, we're not. That's not what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know what the fuck we're talking about. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about these motherfuckers getting up here and just making sit up.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of disgusted with that. But uh, not

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Speaker 2: that I think much is at stake would a VP debate.

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Speaker 2: I think the horse race nature of our media tries

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Speaker 2: why this historic VP debate could have more, could be bigger,

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Speaker 2: more important than you would imagine. I was like, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to be. Yeah, it doesn't need to be.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, It's all right.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, regular VP debate, you have a lot of people

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Speaker 1: lost the presidential that go VP.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean it's fine. We know that actual

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's basically my banter. Well, I actually had

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Speaker 2: it reminded me of one like nineties hip hop and

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Speaker 2: And uh, and this happens all the time in real

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Speaker 2: Like facts. The fact of the matter is you might

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Speaker 3: Doing something you can't do, agreed.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I know that is because I've watched

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Speaker 3: They don't. Everybody don't got it. Everybody can't be jay Z,

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Speaker 2: I remember, you know, uh Nas and jay Z when

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Speaker 2: him try. It's just unfortunately just it. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: Lauryn Hill joint. That's one of my favorite songs of

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Speaker 2: all time period Nas and Lauren if I ruled the world.

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like some wax shit, but it's just you

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Speaker 2: know it.

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Speaker 3: Jay Z was.

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Speaker 2: Running the summer every summer for a bunch of summers

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Speaker 2: the I think people do that a lot where it's well, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I would never sell out like that, you know, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a talent. Yes, they found a way to

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Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean that you just have too much

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Speaker 3: And that's all right too, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I think people have to check themselves because there

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Speaker 3: I'm just bitter because I can't do it yet.

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Speaker 2: So now how they make it seem like everybody else

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that extend to sometimes the fans too, because

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Speaker 1: the fans will come out, you know, for people that

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Speaker 1: and nobody can quote unquote determine what that number is

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Speaker 2: But people have normally it's just normally that it's bigger

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Speaker 2: than whatever you're doing. Yes, you know, anytime somebody's just

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Speaker 2: but it's you probably couldn't and that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay, you know, and it works the other

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Speaker 3: way too. You know.

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Speaker 2: I remember when jay Z said, truthfully, I could be

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Speaker 2: like common sense. I'm like, God, really, you don't really

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Speaker 2: those type of like social political comments there is You're

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Speaker 3: No, bitch, you do that.

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Speaker 1: You make that choice on your own, and me, as

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Speaker 2: Yep, did he seeks house arrest as he awaits sex

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Speaker 3: So he's trying again to find a way to get out.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of times they want women as spokespeople,

439
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, for the optics. He looks forward to prove

440
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: his innocent and innocence and vindicate himself in court. I'm

441
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: telling you, it's an easy job. All of y'all could

442
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: do this. Everyone listening to this podcast, You could do

443
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: this job. You don't need to go to school. It's

444
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: so easy. It's just nothing's true. Everyone's line. He didn't

445
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: do anything, matter of fact. Can't wait to go to court.

446
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: He's glad he's in jail because he can't wait to

447
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: get in the courtroom and face these motherfuckers. Okay, forget

448
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: everything you've read in the media, everything you heard. Don't

449
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: trust anybody. Just but why would he would never do this?

450
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: Okay?

451
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: He is so thankful for this opportunity to face his

452
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: accusers in public, and you're like, okay, sure he is.

453
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: Dame Dash calls for transparency amid industry allegations. Silence is

454
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: the loudest thing, so people think it's uh, you know,

455
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: people are talking about these lawsuits and all that stuff.

456
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: Dash started by expressing frustration over the silence of individuals

457
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: facing serious accusations. This is a very transparent place in

458
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: the world these days. It's very easy to say that's

459
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: not true. I wasn't at that party. I didn't do

460
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: what they said I did. Referring to his own experiences,

461
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: Dash mentioned how he once questioned jay Z about rumors

462
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: of the alleged beef. Jay Z, according to Dash, preferred

463
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: not to address the rumors publicly to avoid bringing fuel

464
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: to the fire. However, Dash disagreed with this approach, explaining

465
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: that staying silent often has opposite the fact, being silent

466
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: is sometimes the loudest.

467
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: Thing in the world. He remarked.

468
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: The conversation took a turn when Dash brought up recent

469
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: explosive allegations by Jaguar Right, a fellow industry figure who

470
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: has been vocal about misconducting the music business. Dash noted

471
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: that Right was making claims without saying allegedly, which is

472
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: something he learned the hard way after being sued for

473
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: Fela used the term, Yeah, I think it's interesting in

474
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: this and that Jaguar Right legitimately says some shit that

475
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: is just false, like and she's been saying shit for years, like,

476
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: but during this time, people so want the Juicy conspiracy,

477
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: Hot Gossip, and these platforms that would not have her

478
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: on any other time because they feel like she's mentally unstable,

479
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: make jokes about it and everything right, but you can

480
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: get clicks right now if you bring her on your

481
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: podcast and just listen to her like everything she's saying

482
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: is the God gospel truth, without questioning or pushing back

483
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: on anything, and the clip will go viral, people to

484
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: share it, and some people will go see she she

485
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: told y'all, But it's kind of sad that people are

486
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: doing that with hers. I feel similar, and I know

487
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: people would disagree, but I feel similar to when people

488
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: used to.

489
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: Have Kanye on in the middle of mental health breakdown.

490
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: I'd like, everybody would be mad at what Kanye was saying,

491
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: but I'd be like, why the fuck is this outlet

492
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: putting the microphone in his face, Like this makes sense.

493
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: Nothing he's saying makes.

494
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: Sense, And shame on the people that would listen and

495
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: try to make it make sense and be like, no,

496
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: so you got.

497
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: To understand what he's saying. And I'm like, that's really

498
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: a shame.

499
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: You're that star for content that you would you would

500
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: act like this is the rantings of a fucking insane

501
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: person at this moment anyway. But yeah, so I think

502
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: it's interesting with Dame dash on this because it always

503
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: comes back to jay Z.

504
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: He don't like jay Z.

505
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: They fell out, and it's funny how this sting is

506
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: obviously at this point, really about Puffy and all this shit,

507
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: and Dame's like, you know, it reminds me of me

508
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: and jay Z having a fallout, like we know, bro.

509
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these things aren't the same. What are you

510
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: talking about?

511
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like Scottie Pippenhaten, Michael Jordan or it's like,

512
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened with y'all, motherfuckers, but if

513
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: this is all you got to talk about for the

514
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: rest of your life, damn bro, Like, I hope it

515
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: gets better, all right. So I think that's how the

516
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: oh no, and then one last story Arthur Chris Todd.

517
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: That's the white man who pretended to be a black.

518
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Man, dad dude, Yes, who.

519
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: Wrote the alleged Kim Poter Secret memoir and.

520
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Not trying funny. Maybe it's just me six six pages

521
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: bitch y'all should know that shit wouldn't real, right. I

522
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: hate to be like that like when they do this shit,

523
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: this shit be long as fuck.

524
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: So he went on this art of dialogue, which I

525
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: don't know if is like a podcast or YouTube show something,

526
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: but I see that clips go viral all the time,

527
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: And so they interviewed him and asked him about it.

528
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: He said that the book was more than just a memoir.

529
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: I was asked to use that name, he said, referring

530
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: to Jamal T. Millwood, the tea standing for Tupac Uh.

531
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: He said, it's a nod to Tupac's Macavelli persona. He

532
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: admitted there were a lot of moving parts behind the scenes,

533
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: with multiple people contributing to the project. He emphasized that

534
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: using a predominantly African American name was a spiritual and

535
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: strategic move, symbolizing a bigger message in honor of both

536
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: Tupac and Ken Porter. If you don't get on my face,

537
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: I was torn between using my own name, Chris Tie,

538
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: or adopting Jamal T.

539
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: Millwood.

540
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: The tea stands for Tupac, and the name is a

541
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: subtle tribute to the rapper's influence. More importantly, it was

542
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: a collaborative effort and in a sense, a leap of faith.

543
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Tell Us next, you was a part of the Islam

544
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Muslims of Brothers of Islams trying to keep trying to

545
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: support your brotherhood? Is he talking about?

546
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: He addressed the fact that people are like, you're a

547
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: white man. You made this shit up. He said, there

548
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: are African Americans behind this book, Okay, he affirmed, though

549
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: he admitted that the name wasn't really elective of a

550
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: single person. It was more about what it represented to me.

551
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: There is a collaborative effort, uh, he challenged. He was

552
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: challenged about the optics of using the Nanje MALTI Will Millwood. Damn,

553
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: that seems like that's all this article is about, with

554
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: some African American community accusing him of cloud chasing. Optically,

555
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: it might look that way, he said. It's all about

556
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: changing paradigms.

557
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: This motherfucker is good. Okay, this, this dude is good.

558
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: I can't believe y'all let him sit up there and

559
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: play in y'all face like this. He just pulled out

560
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: a couple of words on y'all, and y'all was like, Okay,

561
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: I guess he answered that question. It's all about shifting

562
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: the parameters of the paradigms. Why are you pretending to

563
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: be a black man. It would look that, it would

564
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: look that way, right.

565
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: That it is that way? What are we talking about here?

566
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: But you have to understand African Americans are behind this book.

567
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Do not care, sir.

568
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: It's more of a collective effort and a collaboration than

569
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: it is whether it is the truth or not.

570
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: I mean it is a type of truth. It is

571
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: my truth, it is Kim's truth.

572
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: No, no, if it ain't the truth, it's a lie.

573
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: So yeah, uh, we live in a terrible time cause

574
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 6: I mean, like this is some dark shit to just

575
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: try to jump into to get a quick buck off of,

576
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 6: and like unscrupulous motherfucker, like this is.

577
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Gonna he's getting the interviews, he's getting.

578
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: The you know, and if this is anything like fucking

579
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: dj vlatt, I wonder if they pay people for interviews.

580
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: So I wonder if he got a.

581
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Check to sit down and just be like, yeah, I'm

582
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: playing black people's face with this bullshit in a very

583
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: serious situation where there's literally over one hundred people who

584
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: are saying they've been assaulted by this man. And yeah,

585
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: to me, it's just a way to get a quick

586
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: Amazon checkick Kindle kit check.

587
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. I can see the.

588
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Book's not fucking spell checked, you know what I'm saying,

589
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Like that's anyway?

590
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, that number one commas, you know, like that's crazy.

591
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: What's happening here?

592
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: Why are y'all even talking to him? Like he cared?

593
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Oh he don't.

594
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: That should be the only question, Like why the fuck

595
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: is this shit is not even like edited or spell check?

596
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Why am I supposed to believe it's a collaborative effort

597
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: and not just a fucking cash graph And.

598
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: It's an insult to people that actually wrote real books.

599
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move out of this and get

600
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: into some other news. DJ Jaffa turn that beat Olivia Nuzzy,

601
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: the r K lady, the woman that.

602
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: Sent that to this the RKA.

603
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes, she now is accusing her ex fiance of orchestrating

604
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: blackmail campaign. So I guess, and look, it could multiple

605
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: things could be true.

606
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: That's true.

607
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past him finding this shit out,

608
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: and that being how we all found out, you know,

609
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: because we don't really know how they found out, Like

610
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: no one ever came out and said like yo, so

611
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: like what made us go?

612
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: You've been sending your Tenny's rk Jr.

613
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: Like, I know he allegedly told somebody over like a

614
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: lunch or something, But is that enough to like trigger

615
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: all of this?

616
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: I wonder anyway.

617
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: New York magazine writer Olivia Nuzzy is publicly accusing her

618
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: ex fiance, Ryan Lizza, of a prominent political journalist with Politico,

619
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: of orchestrating harassment and blackmail campaign against her after they're split,

620
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: and while Nuzzy had a personal relationship with Robert F.

621
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: K Jr.

622
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: The accusations, which Nuzzy made in a fouling and before

623
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: a judge in Washington DC Superior Court this week, and

624
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: which he denies, are the latest supposed to twist emerge

625
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: from the fallout of her previously undisclosed relationship with Kennedy,

626
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: the former independent presidential candidate, and as a national political

627
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: press is turned aside into a discussion of journalism ethics.

628
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: Nuzzy wrote in the court filing that in mid August,

629
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: Liza explicitly threatened to make public personal information about me

630
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: to destroy my life, career and reputation, a threat he

631
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: has since carried out. It's so funny because I feel

632
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: like everyone's playing like this deflection game, like r K

633
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: Junior's deflection is like, hey, man, bitch kept sending me titties.

634
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: I didn't want to see them.

635
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously her deflection is just like, hey, it

636
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: was BLACKML But no one's coming out and being like

637
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: I didn't do it.

638
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Nobody is saying it wasn't me.

639
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like being innocent.

640
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Right everybody basically they saying that shit is true. Now

641
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: we're trying to depend the blame on how it got

642
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, like basically totally happening now.

643
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: Uh uh.

644
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: Nuzzy uh said she was placed on leave blast month

645
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: by The New York magazine while it does a third

646
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: party review.

647
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: After the allegations. Da Da Da Da.

648
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: Liza, Politico's chief Washington corresponding and playbook co author, wasn't

649
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: in attendance at a court hearing Tuesday where Nuzzy was

650
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: granted a temporary no contact no contact order against him.

651
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: Requests like those are typically the first actions in domestic

652
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 2: disputes in court and granted quickly by judges, often without

653
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: opposing party even knowing, so it doesn't really symbolize there's

654
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: like evidence like he's gonna do something to her, but

655
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: uh Liza hasn't responded to the allegations in court, but

656
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: he did provide a statement to CNN. I'm saddened that

657
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: my ex fiance will resort to making a series of

658
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: false accusations against me as a way to divert attention

659
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: from her own personal professional feelings. Emphatically deny these allegations

660
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 2: and will don't offend myself against them vigorously and successfully.

661
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about that court thing. One reason why

662
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: they do that because fucking abusers. Yeah, so they were like,

663
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: you come, you don't come, We don't care. We're just

664
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: gonna grant it.

665
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: It's better safety s arery.

666
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna grant it just just in case you're

667
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: an asshole or dick. This person is covered.

668
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: Uh so October fifteenth is when they're hearing it, said.

669
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Nuzzy said she believes Liza again his alleged harassment at

670
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: the beginning of July as a way to blackmail her

671
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: into a relationship with him and punish her when she

672
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't acquiesce.

673
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: She said.

674
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: By the next month, Liza had stolen her personal electronic

675
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: device from her was hacking her devices, then anonymously shopping

676
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: information about her to the media, some of the information

677
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: may have been doctor to hurt her more. She alleged

678
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: she believes lot Liza impersonated an anonymous campaign operative to

679
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: give a political campaign information that would hurt her further.

680
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: According to court records, Nuzzy also accused Liza, potentially through

681
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: a third party anonymous channel, of tipping off her employer

682
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: last month about what she calls the matter.

683
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: R K Jr. Is not referred to name in the

684
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: court record. Here's what I'll say.

685
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how much evidence you have to present

686
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: in a hearing like this, right, but I'm not hearing evidence.

687
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm hearing a lot of He may.

688
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: Have, he should, he could have, It might have been

689
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: like it's not like I listen, I caught him doing

690
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: this ship. So it's gonna be interesting to see because

691
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: there should be evidence of this digital evidence. People you

692
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: can like, yeah, you should be able to bring people

693
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: in and be like, what did.

694
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: You get this email from? When did you get it?

695
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing.

696
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: So, yeah, this is so messy, hot white guys.

697
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: The judge signed out for.

698
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Her request to have police escort her a company her

699
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 2: back to like where they live to get her possessions

700
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 2: they lived together since last year.

701
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, mm hmmm.

702
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: The drama continues, apparently so that Kevin bil T is spilling.

703
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of drama, Nicki Minaj seemingly defends her husband against

704
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: accusations of restrictions around children and playgrounds.

705
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: What we know it's a real thing. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

706
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: So we know about the conviction, we know about the

707
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: court orders and all that stuff. But people online have

708
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: been saying stuff and I don't know if it's proven

709
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: or not. But it's just like, well, since he has

710
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: this case and we know he's.

711
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: He should be registered as a sex offendit. We know

712
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: that's a fact.

713
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: We know that he got in trouble for not registering

714
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, and so people say stuff like

715
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: he can't be around schools and playgrounds and stuff like that,

716
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: which could absolutely be true. I don't know the particular

717
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: laws of where she stays and how it works.

718
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: Anyway.

719
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: She shared a photo of them posing on what appears

720
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: to be an indoor playground and put it on Twitter

721
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: with the caption they used to be giving y'alls the

722
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: hashtag fake news out and proud. I thought a brain

723
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: vessel was gonna pop. You'd have to have a brain

724
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: for that.

725
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: Though.

726
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Hashtag gag City Kansas City tonight has nigga Minadfisher dot Com.

727
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's this, Karen.

728
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Do you know how down bad you have to be

729
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: to think it's a flex to have your husband pictured

730
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: on an indoor playground where no children are even.

731
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: At That's bad, That's real bad.

732
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Just stump for the motherfucking internet.

733
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that you think it's a stunt,

734
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: that's I don't know how to tell it. This This

735
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: is normal for everybody. Yes, this is the default. A

736
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: grown up adult should be able to take a picture,

737
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: buy some swings and not be a problem.

738
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: This is only a flex if you.

739
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Know you're married to a sex offender who's not supposed

740
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: to be doing these things. I let them run with

741
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: at a hashtag face news, fake news, drag for years

742
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: just so I could get this good good laugh. I'm

743
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: a different type of whole petty Kansas City to night

744
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: and night.

745
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's another way spell hoe.

746
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, the New Orleans way. H e A U X.

747
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if she thinks you know what

748
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: it is too, I bet you if I click on

749
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: the tweet there's a bunch of barbs and stands, and

750
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: I think she's hyper online and hyper and seeing all

751
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: this ship and so I wouldn't be shocked that she

752
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: really did think like, yep, that all show on, you know.

753
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Her flying monkeys and run out there. But see y'all see.

754
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: They be fighting online about it.

755
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. It Ain't that serious, but yes.

756
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: Uh prize.

757
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: Michelle sus Lawren Hill, alleging Friday mismanagement and Castle Fuji store.

758
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: Get in line, but get in line.

759
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of money over that.

760
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants fraud, breach a contract, and mismanagement. He's

761
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: accusing her of all. He claims that the tour, which

762
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: had the potentially be a major success, suffered from her

763
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: financial mismanagement. He alleged she diverted funds from the tour

764
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: for personal gain, leaving the rest of the group without

765
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: their fair share. The sue also addressed the abrupt cancelation

766
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: of the second half of the tour November twenty twenty three,

767
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: which he'll attributed to vocal strain. The lawsuit goes on

768
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: to describe several incidents where Michelle believes Hill acted unfairly,

769
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: including her decision to turn down a five million dollar

770
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: offer for the food used to perform at Coachella. According

771
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: to Michelle, she rejected the deal because she didn't want

772
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: to share the stage with No Doubt, who are headlined

773
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: in the same night. Michelle claims he was unaware of

774
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: the offer until it was too late. Man, I hate

775
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: to tell Priz this. I mean, he got other problems,

776
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, legally, but.

777
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Bruh. They there for Lauren, they might be there for

778
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: why club. They're not there for you, baby, they're not.

779
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Prose, I'm sorry, just having I'm sorry, but

780
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: it's no way.

781
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: Well, I can't believe they didn't tell me, Prouse. Now

782
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: you know, they don't gotta tell you.

783
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: They probably don't, Priuse.

784
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, they just text you what time the concert

785
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: is and to show up that you know, you at

786
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: that level, you're not making decisions, baby, come on now, Prouse.

787
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: And if you were said yeah that, but but we

788
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: said no. So it don't matter what you think.

789
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I get why you would be pressed the

790
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: most about the money and ship. It makes sense, like

791
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at you on that, and I don't

792
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: I get your.

793
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: Coins, get your suit on.

794
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: But being like, I can't believe they didn't tell me,

795
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: because because if Lawrence says no, it's no for you too.

796
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: If wy Club says no, guess what else that means

797
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: it's no for you too.

798
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: You because trust you, you ain't doing Coachella by.

799
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Yourself, right, Why would they tell you so you can

800
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: rock down to Electric Avenue. No, my nigga's over, You're

801
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: going to You're going to be at the Crib on

802
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: Coachella night unless you buy a ticket.

803
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: That's the only way you getting in as Proze. Well. Now,

804
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 3: if you you can get in as the foujis.

805
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: Shit, you can get in as Lauren Hill featuring Why

806
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Come Up John and Prozwell Michelle, but you can't get

807
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: in his own motherfucking proz nigga. Come on, we all

808
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: skip your verses. That's why they last on the album.

809
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: We be like, hey, we can go to the next song.

810
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say no offense, but it's no way. He

811
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: can't take offense to what I'm saying. It's just but

812
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: come on, let's be honest with each other.

813
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

814
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: The lossit accused Hill is secured in the eighteen show

815
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: US tour in twenty twenty four without performing without informing Michelle.

816
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: He believes her lack of urgency and finalizing the deal

817
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: of minimum marketing efforts led to low ticket sales, resulting

818
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: in the towards cancelation.

819
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: What so she made her own person to tour without you,

820
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: and you get mad because you can't get no coins

821
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: off of her tour? Get the fuck out my face.

822
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: He also points out the cancel tour came in a

823
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: difficult time for him, as he was dealing with mounting

824
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: legal fees related to his involvement in the one m

825
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: dB financial scandal. He claims he'll exported his situation by

826
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: mishandling the tour funds and further complicating the groups re union.

827
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you basically say they an't care about my financial situation.

828
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: That's basically what you're saying.

829
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel them on all this stuff.

830
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: And maybe he got a case, So I guess we'll

831
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: find out in court.

832
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: We'll find out he lost me that they.

833
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: Wasn't telling me stuff. Come on, priors, you know why

834
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: they wasn't telling you stuff. We're gonna we're gonna pretend that.

835
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: That we know. Come on, I can't pretend to be

836
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: mad about it, not on your mass.

837
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

838
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: The boards had shit got bad, Karen. Uh.

839
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: The plants nationwide are now a part of a law

840
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: enforcement investigation.

841
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: The USDA says, shout out.

842
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: To having people over. These federal government agencies did care

843
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: because this the shit that matters. Deregulation fucking matters. Deregulations

844
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: matter because these these are the departments that make sure

845
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: people don't fucking die from their food. That's their whole

846
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: goddamn job is to be sure. And you need a

847
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: federal agency to go in and get in their asses

848
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: to be like, y'all need to clean this shit. You

849
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: need to shut this shit down. You need to because

850
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: if you allow them to do what they want to do,

851
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give a fuck. If they could make it

852
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: what people couldn't sue them, they'd be like, fuck it,

853
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Who has if two hundred

854
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: people died in the city, fuck it, I seed is sold. No,

855
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: you need to held accountable.

856
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: You know what.

857
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be interesting in addition to what

858
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: you're saying, because I agree, you know, letting Trump strip

859
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: out the money and the resources of federal regulatory agencies

860
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: is terrible. But after this Oberger fail ruling ruling, the

861
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: one where it's basically like, federal agencies don't have oversight

862
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: compared to industry what like whatever the judge feels is

863
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: the industry standard, which the judge could say, or they

864
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: could call it the industry expert who could be on

865
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: the payroll of the company and be like, no, you

866
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: don't need to do that. I wonder when we're gonna

867
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: get our first thing like this where the FDA or

868
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: the or the Federal Justice Department Department of Justice take

869
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: someone to court and the and the fucking company wins

870
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: because the company is able to convince some one of

871
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: these judges, whether it's a conservative or Republican judge or whatever,

872
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: convince one of these judges that the the experts in

873
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: the FDA that created these standards actually don't know what

874
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: they're talking about, and that it's perfectly safe to have,

875
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: you know, whatever bullshit is happening in these.

876
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Plants and people dying, and they not giving a fuck.

877
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: Because it's because that is now possible, Like that was

878
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: not possible before, right, but that is now possible. That

879
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: like you bring in the FDA and that's they bring

880
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: in their expert witnesses, and that created the industry standards,

881
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: and then the industry just brings in.

882
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: Their own person like nah.

883
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: At least fifty nine hospitalizations and ten deaths have been

884
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: linked to theasterious strain trace back to Boyhead products distributed

885
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: from a now shutter plant ran in Virginia. While that

886
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: bors Head plant Virginia had been written up dozens of

887
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: times by inspectors over violations, CBS News first support in August,

888
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: based on records obtained through a Freedom of Information Act.

889
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: Violations flagged at the plant by agricultural officials included mold

890
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: and insects found throughout the site. Oh fs, yeah, boys

891
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: had really fucked up because boys.

892
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: Had was considered the premium Deli meat.

893
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: Yes, so like you, it was a big day when

894
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: you got that Boy's Head seal. It was like, ooh shit,

895
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: they got the sauce Alito turkey fine nine and nine.

896
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: Fuck publics, I'm getting, you know, fuck my Harris Teeter Brand.

897
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: And anti Ti funny. A lot of the delis, particularly

898
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: if you go to Delhi's, like you said, your hairs

899
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: t is your public's, your probably your Wegmans that you know,

900
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: boys Head. Some of them had like their own fucking section.

901
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

902
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, like the considered the premium right, so now everybody,

903
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know another company that has a section.

904
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: I only know Boy's Head or you get whatever the

905
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: store has, right period.

906
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't know, no, And I'm pretty sure there's

907
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: other brands out there, but don't I know who you are.

908
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: So this fucked them up all the way because I'm like,

909
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: now your brand is associated with bugs and lasteria.

910
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: And people gonna stop buying that ship.

911
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see myself buying anymore. Like like I

912
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: think I'm done. I mean how they fixed this? Like

913
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: when it was one plan, I was like, okay, well

914
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: they shut that plant down right now they got other plans.

915
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: The The f SI S disclosed the existence of the

916
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: probe in a letter on Thursday when it denied the

917
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: CBS News requests for records on boys Heads other plants

918
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: in Michigan, Arkansas, Indiana. Since the records are being compiled

919
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: for law enforcement purposes, Public records and officials for FSIS

920
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: said releasing them could hinder the government's ability to confurther

921
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: control and shape the investigation. Given the ongoing investigation related

922
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: related to this matter, FSIS is withholding ninety three pages

923
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: in full. This comes the same day as Senator Richard

924
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Bloomenthal and Representative Rosa de Lario de Lao, both Connecticut Democrats,

925
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 2: to the USDA and Department of Justice. I guess sent

926
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: letters sent a letter to the USDA and Department of

927
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: Justice urging them to consider criminal charges.

928
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know, if somebody go to jail, it's.

929
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: In like most corporate criminal charges, there'll just be some

930
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: money that gets but whatever, something about to happen.

931
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also it would not be not that they

932
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: was doing a great job before, but what happened during COVID.

933
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: They couldn't do a lot of investigation doing COVID, so

934
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: you got basically had like two years of them not

935
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: being able to get to all the places and all

936
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: that shit. So now for a lot of them, you know,

937
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: and they were short of people to that actually could

938
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 1: do the inspections and shit like this. They didn't have enough,

939
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, basically across the country because they had the

940
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: Federals ones and they have you know, the ones in

941
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: your state. You know, they go around in your local

942
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: city and county municipalities and also go around and do

943
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: inspections too, But when it comes to these plants, you know,

944
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's a special type of training unlike

945
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: the regular restaurants. And so they had a long time

946
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: just doing whatever the literally, whatever the fuck they wanted

947
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: to And now the federal Hey, let's start ramping this

948
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: shit back up. We're getting this ship where people are dying,

949
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be surprised that more plants and shit

950
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: start getting busted and shut down up underneath this. And

951
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: this is the ship that I want to continue. This

952
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: is why voting matters, because who you put in office

953
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: will determine if this shit got swept underneath the rug

954
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: or if the federal government comes in and start finding

955
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: and feeing and shit like this, because not trying funny it.

956
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: If you do this, how are you actually treating your employees?

957
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: You employees have to be around this shit. I bet

958
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: you they're gonna find out employees. We're getting sick because

959
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: not trying to find you in. Your employees are first hand,

960
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: they touching it. They're around all this mold and mild,

961
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: doing all this other bullshit. So I'm pretty sure that

962
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: they're trying to say okay, during this period time, how

963
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: many employees were out, how many employees were sick?

964
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: Well what they out for?

965
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Did it them get hospitalized? Like, allow them to do

966
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: their job, to hold these companies accountable, because these companies

967
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck unless you hold them accountable. They

968
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: do not care. They want to sell you a product

969
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: and they don't care if it kills you or not.

970
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely absolutely, all right, let's see, let's get into

971
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: a different segment.

972
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm just looking and see what I want to talk about.

973
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do some fucking with black people and uh yeah,

974
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: I play the song and oil we'll get the fucking

975
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: with them blacks.

976
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: Everybody who woooo.

977
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 7: With just fucking with them people because they ain't black,

978
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 7: with just fucking with them people because they are black,

979
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 7: with just woop fucking with them black people with just

980
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 7: fucking with them blacks.

981
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: We just fo fucking we fucking people. He who who

982
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 3: all right fucking with black people?

983
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: Go around to go find different articles that fuck with us,

984
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: and we scoring from zero to one hundred, and the

985
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: wars are twenty five for how much we feel fucked

986
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: with this Black people. Today's contestants, everybody, Uh, Caitlyn Clark

987
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: speaks out against racist trolls targeting w NBA players.

988
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: It's definitely upsetting.

989
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: So this is not the first time she's spoken out

990
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: about these motherfuckers. There's been this influx of fans, which

991
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: I put in quote especially an online contingent of essentially

992
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: white racist trolls, and they're and they're prominently there are

993
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: people who have been white racist trolls.

994
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: But the w n B A is a different style

995
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: and culture of league. Deve Portnoy.

996
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: Is a dude that is synonymous with very racist edge

997
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: lord white boy humor and and everything at Barstool Sports

998
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: is considered that.

999
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: Uh, there's OutKick.

1000
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: OutKick is literally like the place that employed Jason Whitlock.

1001
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: OutKick used to write uh uh, very offensive bullshit about

1002
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: game theory every week. I didn't platform it by coming

1003
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: on the podcast complaining too much about it.

1004
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: I actually didn't give a fuck.

1005
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: It was like, this is gonna happen because we were

1006
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 2: making a black ass late night show and they're gonna

1007
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: harass Bomoni and put his name in all kinds of bullshit.

1008
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: Right whatever, whatever, But.

1009
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: They have used Kaitlyn Clark took to be like this

1010
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: cudgel to be like, Hey, we're gonna ship on this black.

1011
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Woman lgbt Q league.

1012
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: And say that this white woman is the greatest thing

1013
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: ever happened to them, greatest player to ever play, and

1014
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: demond admonish all the other accomplishments previous, all the current

1015
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: accomlishments from other players, and we're gonna do it under

1016
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: the guys if we just like Kaitlyn Clark.

1017
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: But they don't. But if they don't like or give

1018
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: a fuck about Kaitlyn Clark.

1019
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: It's it's about the sport. Yeah, they don't really like

1020
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: the sport. They don't really, they're not they're not really

1021
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: about showing up the games, watching the games. It's the

1022
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: only time they share something is a clip of her

1023
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: getting fouled to be like.

1024
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: Look at this league.

1025
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: And so there's been this pressure, I'd say undue pressure,

1026
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: but because I think there's been a failure to recognize

1027
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: that there's literally nothing she can do about this. That's

1028
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: the trick of it all is that people still think

1029
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: if she comes out strongly enough that the racist people

1030
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: will go, oh, okay, But that's not gonna happen, and

1031
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: it'll take a while if people ever realizing. And I

1032
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: think also there's some resentment about just her privilege and

1033
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: all this other shit that is like caught up in

1034
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: this of like, you know, the fact that you even

1035
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: get to like treat this as a thing that can

1036
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: be ignored is.

1037
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: Due to your privilege.

1038
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Is how a lot of people feel. There's arguments to

1039
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: him for against that. I'm not really that's not what

1040
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: this segments about. But so she gets asked about it,

1041
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: she says, definitely upsetting. Nobody in our league should be

1042
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: facing any sort of racism or her full disrespectful, hateful

1043
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: comments or threats. She said, those aren't fans, those are trolls,

1044
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: and it's a real disservice to the people in our league,

1045
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: the organization, and the WNBA. She's that you know, uh,

1046
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, there there are really there are a lot

1047
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: of really good fans, whether they've been supporters for twenty

1048
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: plus years or they're new to the league. The best

1049
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: thing we can do is continue to up leave this

1050
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: league in a positive light, right.

1051
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: And uh.

1052
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: She also said she addressed the comparisons. I think this

1053
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know if there's the same interview, but

1054
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: she says the comparison between her and like Angel Reese

1055
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: and those racial under town. She said, for me, that's

1056
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 2: why I became a fan of this league. These people

1057
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: were my idols. I grew up on to be like them.

1058
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: So continue to uplift and represent this league in a

1059
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: positive way is the best.

1060
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Thing we can do.

1061
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: And so the thing for me, because I've tried to

1062
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: be as fair as possible call balls and strikes. I

1063
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: really don't think it's about Kaitlin Clark. I think a

1064
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: lot of people got I think the racist people won.

1065
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: I hate to say that. I think the racist trolls

1066
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: they literally won. And part of the reason that they

1067
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: won is because the league was not the leadership was

1068
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: not prepared to like publicly push against us.

1069
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and it monish it right.

1070
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: And I said on this show for a minute now

1071
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: that this was a race war, that this is what

1072
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: was coming to the w NBA, this is what was

1073
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: happening in women's college basketball. Everyone was into now saying

1074
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: it was about some other shit. No, it's just about race.

1075
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: You got racist people that want to fight about it.

1076
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: You got black people that feel offended and are lashing

1077
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: back out, and there's no fairness in that. People just

1078
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: want it's winner take all. People want to win the

1079
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: race war, but the thing that truly makes people lose

1080
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: is the lack of anticipation of it from the top down.

1081
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of the league, when asked about this,

1082
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: basically punned on the question like like.

1083
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 3: They were like, what's so with all this racist and shit?

1084
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: And she was just basically like, this is growing pains

1085
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: of growing the league, Like this is what happens. Your

1086
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: league gets bigger and then you get these people, and look,

1087
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: we just need to stop paying attention to the online

1088
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 2: trolls and we need.

1089
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: To just you know, harassing your fucking players, dog your

1090
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: employees right right.

1091
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: And she is a white lady.

1092
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't know her sexual orientation or not, but she's

1093
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: a white lady. So I think a lot of that

1094
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: has something to do with, you know, this dynamic in

1095
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: a WNBA, which is that the league and the media

1096
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: wants to promote white heterosexual women as the face of

1097
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: this league because that is what America thinks will lead

1098
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: to the most prominence. Like I want you to close

1099
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: your eyes and associate this league with Kelsey Plumb, you

1100
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like that kind of thing I

1101
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: want you to think about you know whoever, like bringing

1102
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: the steward or something like like, just don't think I

1103
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: ain't a uh your naw school, don't don't think about

1104
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: the Britney Grinder.

1105
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: Don't think about her as a face of this league.

1106
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, Brittany Grinder has some interesting thoughts to about

1107
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 2: ignoring the trolls online and stuff. Now she's been through

1108
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: it with the Russian shit and the target of right

1109
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: wing people, so I think she actually has a good point.

1110
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: But she also brought up the league on their website,

1111
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: on their social media posts. Could be blocking and deleting

1112
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: these trolls, not letting them be part of the conversation. Right,

1113
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to do this.

1114
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: Right, particularly on your official shit when they start coming

1115
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: have somebody because you have social media people who sees

1116
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: this shit. But like delete delete, delete, delete, block delete, like,

1117
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: don't even allow their ship to even appear, Like if

1118
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: you want to take that stand, because guess what, they

1119
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: don't have a right to post on your shit.

1120
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: And like, I do understand the broader point people are

1121
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: trying to have that it's this idea of like, listen,

1122
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: these Internet racist trolls exist and there's not a methodology

1123
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: that will stop them from existing. So if your goal

1124
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: is to like to get the racism to stop online,

1125
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen, especially not Twitter, which is a

1126
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: platform run by a racist, right wing person, Like.

1127
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: You're always gonna be harassed.

1128
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: And I do understand that point, but I think you're

1129
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: missing the farest for the trees when that is the

1130
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: point that you make, because the next point that comes

1131
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: along with that is this idea of like and this

1132
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: is what it takes to grow the league. You said

1133
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: you wanted the league to grow, and I find that

1134
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: to be so patently offensive and condescending.

1135
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: How people keep making the same fucking point. And it's

1136
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: not true. It is not true that in order for

1137
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 3: a league to grow.

1138
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: It must accept the harassment and bigotry of these quote

1139
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: unquote fans.

1140
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: That's actually not true. And I know y'all don't don't

1141
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: believe that.

1142
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: And the reason I know y'all don't believe that it's

1143
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: because of the NBA.

1144
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm coming back there in a second. This was the

1145
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: last straw for me.

1146
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: This This woman showed up to a game, this white

1147
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: lady with a T shirt that says band nails, and

1148
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: it's her with a bunch of fake prosthetic nails, and

1149
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: it's about Degene Harrington, and it's like picking on her

1150
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: eyelashes and her nails that she wears and stuff like that,

1151
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: and it's just like, you know, like, ha ha. Now

1152
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: it's obviously in some racial overtones, racialized overtones, because that's

1153
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: that's black women culture right there. Now you could say, oh,

1154
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: she's just being a fan. But it's like when people

1155
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: showed up to the game the mock Colin Kaepernick, and

1156
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: it's a white guy wearing a fro wig, and you're like,

1157
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. Like you're not gonna come

1158
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: out and put your face black face on, but I

1159
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. Ha has I don't like this player,

1160
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: and it's funny the way they look is their culture

1161
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: is funny to me, right, And so once somebody like

1162
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: this shows up to the game, that's not social media,

1163
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: that's not a troll per se, that's not someone you

1164
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: can just block.

1165
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 3: That's someone at the game, you know.

1166
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: So the thing I would point out to everyone who's

1167
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: making this argument, and it's been a lot of people

1168
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: participating in it.

1169
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: Steven A.

1170
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: Smith has made versions of this argument. Robert Latou from

1171
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: Black Sports Online made version of this argument. Shannon Sharp obviously

1172
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: has made versus of this argument. Kathy Engelbert, I would say,

1173
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: made a version of this argument, although a lot more

1174
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: toned down, but a lot of the brothers making the argument,

1175
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: they do it with a lot of condescension and anger

1176
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: and like scolding the black players in the WNBA, like

1177
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 2: don't y'all want munch? Shouldn't y'all just be happy y'all

1178
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: getting private jets something that was in the work before

1179
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark came along. By the way, shouldn't y'all just

1180
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: be happy the game was growing? Like we wrote a

1181
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: whole deep dive on game theory, shout out to Heaven

1182
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: and Atlanta who wrote it about just the growth of

1183
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: women's college basketball. Now, the growth of college basketball in

1184
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: America leads to the growth of professional basketball because fans

1185
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: followed their favorite players to the next step. So my

1186
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: point being, y'all don't really apply that evenly to everybody,

1187
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: by which I mean when Russell Westbrook confronted racist Utah

1188
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: Jazz fans and and and and became a thing like

1189
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: and Russell Russell is known as a fiery guy who

1190
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: will confront fans to this day. But when he confronted

1191
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: them and called out their specific racism in that arena

1192
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: and jail Covan's favorite arena, the home.

1193
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: Of the Vanilla Gorilla, as he calls himself.

1194
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: But when they called when he called them out, a

1195
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: cascade of other.

1196
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: NBA players came out of the woodwork and said, yes.

1197
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: That happens to us there too. It is racist in there.

1198
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: The fans are out of fucking control. We don't appreciate it.

1199
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: We're not gonna be sound about it. And now, maybe

1200
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: it's because it was George Floyd time. I don't know,

1201
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: but maybe because it was men, maybe because it was

1202
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: a men. But the league didn't make this argument of

1203
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: like we're growing the game or this is just part

1204
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: of what it is to be a big time American sport.

1205
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: You know what they did.

1206
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: They gave those players the empowerment to get those fans

1207
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: kicked the fuck out.

1208
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: The arena, right. They say they sent a.

1209
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: Firm message, you have a problem with one of our

1210
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: players and you say some racist, disrespectful shit to them.

1211
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: You call Russell Westbrook a boy, because you know it'll

1212
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: get under skin, It's gonna get under your skin too,

1213
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: because you ain't coming back to no fucking games.

1214
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: They were banning them, yes.

1215
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: Banning them for life. Get the fuck out. We don't

1216
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: want your money, right, you know when it was when

1217
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: it was.

1218
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: Donald Sterling who owned the Clippers, an owner don't get

1219
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: more big money than the fucking owner. When he was

1220
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: caught saying some some like racist shit, the league mobilizer,

1221
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: get him the fuck out of there, Like you can't

1222
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: own a team, you better sell this shit. So this

1223
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: idea that we just put up with it because this

1224
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: is just what it takes to grow a.

1225
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: Sport is not true, right if this same shit happened.

1226
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I.

1227
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Think they had a similar situation in college basketball. What

1228
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: I want to say, Dukes women team, women's team, whatever

1229
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: was a racial incident.

1230
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: Nobody was saying, this is just what it is.

1231
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: Guys.

1232
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: More people are paying attention to the women's game. You

1233
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: had to let them just do what they do. No,

1234
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: So we don't really believe that. So if your argument

1235
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: is this is part of American culture, you're just gonna

1236
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: have to deal with it. What about the native culture

1237
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: of the WNBA, Because last time I checked WNBA culture

1238
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: is we got zero dollars for this bullshit, right, and

1239
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: that culture was established before Caitlyn Clark showed up, and

1240
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be that long after.

1241
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: She's gone, Ain't that the truth?

1242
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: Like the end of the day, they don't play.

1243
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: They got their owner, Loeffler, who was a Republican, a

1244
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: Republican politician who co owned her family co owned.

1245
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: The Atlanta Dream. They made herself the fucking team. Yeah.

1246
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: They wore shirts saying both opponent Yes to the games.

1247
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: This league has been a step ahead of the men's leagues.

1248
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: So anytime you see black Lives Matter on the court, understand,

1249
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: WNBA did that shit first when it was wearing them shirts.

1250
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: They did that shit first, right, you know, Like, this

1251
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: is not the league for your bullshit. They stand up

1252
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: and with and for and for themselves LGBTQ people, This

1253
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: is not the league for that.

1254
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: So telling them you need to accept this as part of.

1255
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: Growth is patently offensive, short sighted, and disrespectful to the

1256
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: culture of the league is already established.

1257
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: This isn't new.

1258
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: To them, and the fans that have been going for years,

1259
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: it isn't new to them too, And so for a

1260
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of the people that have it, like, look, I've

1261
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: been watching the WNBA for years. I don't mind the growthing,

1262
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: But what y'all not gonna do is fuck up my

1263
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: league because y'all just coming over here with the bullshit.

1264
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: Then we don't want the those dollars is the answer

1265
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: that nobody. Nobody wants to hear it. But that's the

1266
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: real answer. Then we don't want the dollars.

1267
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: That's the truth.

1268
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: Oh well, your league's not gonna grow.

1269
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: It's big good, Then it just won't get as big

1270
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: as it could possibly get because.

1271
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: We're not gonna just start.

1272
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: That's like saying, where if you put a Confederate flag

1273
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: on the floor, what is the fucking point?

1274
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 3: When do you go?

1275
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: There's something I'm not willing to do for the money, right,

1276
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: And so this league is growing anyway.

1277
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: The money is the money.

1278
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: By the way, the television contract is the television contract,

1279
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: the revenue.

1280
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 3: Sharing that they're probably gonna ask for in the next CBA.

1281
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: That just is what it is.

1282
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: That is not gonna be a function of how many

1283
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: people came to see Cleveland Clark. That's gonna be a

1284
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: function of the league and all the players, the PA, everybody.

1285
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: People got condescending about the statement that the nw NBA

1286
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: PA put out about the about Kathy Ingelberds and her

1287
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: lack of.

1288
01:07:59,320 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: Her lack of.

1289
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, support for the fact that the players are

1290
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: going through all this racism, the black LGBTQ players that

1291
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: are dealing with all of this harassment that they weren't before.

1292
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 3: And I saw some people.

1293
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: Being like, this was a very you know, this is

1294
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: a very childish statement. They're not ready for big Time,

1295
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: says who why does big Time have.

1296
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 3: To look like? Yeah, man, we just need to deal with.

1297
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: The racism and that's just part of right we got

1298
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: to put up with these white folks. To you, maybe

1299
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: or maybe they can define Big Time a different way.

1300
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: They've been defining the culture of this league the whole time,

1301
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 2: and it's been growing the whole time. They were adding

1302
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: teams before Kaylyn Clark came here. What it like, stop

1303
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: with this bullshit and it's not helping her in any

1304
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: way because all you're doing is making people blame her

1305
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: for some shit that she really she's just a fucking

1306
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: twenty two year old players beyond her control that she

1307
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 2: make this racism just go away with a snap of

1308
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: her fingers. They actually don't give a fuck when she

1309
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: makes a statement, and to be honest, y'all don't give

1310
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: a fuck either, like that don't give a fuck either.

1311
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: No, you keep moving the gold posts and saying that

1312
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: she need to come out and she said something, why

1313
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: don't you come out harder? She does that? Why don't

1314
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: you come out harder she does that? Why you're just

1315
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: never gonna be satisfied and that, And that's something that's

1316
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: something that you have to deal with.

1317
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not really gonna be about it's not

1318
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: it's like not really about her on either side, but

1319
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: the fact that.

1320
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: The fact that people have this like.

1321
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: Condescending, chastising tone of like, you ladies just don't know

1322
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: what it's like. Why can't we just believe them that

1323
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: they do know what it's like. They're grown ass women

1324
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: who've been living this life physically showing up in this

1325
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 2: world in public for a long time. And if they're

1326
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: like we should nip this in the bud, I'm gonna

1327
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: just have their back and believe them.

1328
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: I believe that these.

1329
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: Women, mostly black LGBTQ women, know more about what they're

1330
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: dealing with than some fucking guy who just covers this

1331
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: shit for like Sports Illustrated or y'allhoo, no offense to

1332
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: those people. But what the fuck do you really know

1333
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: about squashing some racism in a league like this? What

1334
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: do you know about trying to protect your players? Like

1335
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 2: a good commissioner says, there's gonna be zero tolerance for

1336
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: this agreed period. Not well, you know, we're growing and

1337
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: it's part of what we what we need to grow.

1338
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: They're Kristin Brennan, who's a journalist, who white lady, who's

1339
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: writing a book on Kaitlyn Clark, which I don't know

1340
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: how involved Kaitlyn Clark is in the book, if it's

1341
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: just one of those like I'm writing about you and

1342
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: you can't do shit about it, or if it's like

1343
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down interviewing whatever whatever's happened. Though she ain't

1344
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: helping because Kristin Brennan is also.

1345
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: Saying stuff that is like inflammatory.

1346
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: For example, DJ Nay accidentally hit Kaitlyn in the face

1347
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: when they were playing the Sun in the first round. Okay,

1348
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: it was an accident. Everybody could see his actionally swiping

1349
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: at the ball she hit in the face. She didn't

1350
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: even think she hit her. She thought Caitlyn was faking.

1351
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: It turns out. You know, obviously she wasn't.

1352
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: Faking right able to put a foul or whatever, and

1353
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: everybody kept on moving.

1354
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 3: That's ain't like the first quarter.

1355
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: In like the third quarter, d J Nay and another

1356
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: player were laughing on the bench about something wholly unrelated.

1357
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: I could see that.

1358
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: Kristin Brennan asked her after the game, like, first of all,

1359
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: did you mean to hit Caitlyn in the face. She's like, no,

1360
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: I didn't even know I hit her in the face.

1361
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not that type of player. I wouldn't have

1362
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: done that, right.

1363
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't have a record of that or whatever. You're right, right.

1364
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 2: Kristin Brennan then goes on to ask her this follow

1365
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: up question, which is essentially like, well, when you was

1366
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: laughing in the third quarter, you were laughing about hitting Kitlyn, right,

1367
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: And she's like, no, I just told you I didn't

1368
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: even know I hit her. It's the third quarter, Like

1369
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: like what are you?

1370
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Basically, and so.

1371
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: People started, I mean, the w NBA PA called her

1372
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 2: out and was like, yo, she shouldn't be covering this league.

1373
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: No, not if you're going to ask the stupid ass questions.

1374
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't blame them.

1375
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: Now she's defending it, but she's being a bit inflammatory

1376
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: this whole time. You know, I don't know if she

1377
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: just thinks this is like what you need to do

1378
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: to whatever, but she's been kind of like egging this

1379
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: shit on the whole old time. And look, if she's

1380
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: a journalist and they can't stop her from coming to league,

1381
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how you like you might not allow

1382
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: her access, but that doesn't necessarily mean a person like

1383
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: this wouldn't be able to cover the w NBA from afar.

1384
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you can stop her from putting out

1385
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 2: this fucking book. And of course now everybody's word that

1386
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: this book is just gonna be These black bitches was

1387
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: beating up on this poor white girl the same way

1388
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 2: that Steven A. Smith sounded, the same way that Shannon

1389
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: Sharp sounded. You know that type of bullshit, Jason Widlock,

1390
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: You know all these people sounded like that. Meanwhile, the

1391
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: women that cover the WNBA, the women that cover the

1392
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: league for.

1393
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 3: Years, none of them are saying as bullshit.

1394
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: Not only is that not interesting, Not only that people

1395
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: that have been covering the league for years and shit

1396
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: like this, like you said, they don't ask them stupid,

1397
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: They have questions, and a lot of them have been

1398
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: They talk about all the players.

1399
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: I think Kristen Brennan may have been covering the league

1400
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: for years. Like I'm not saying Kristen Brennan is new

1401
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: to this, but.

1402
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: You were talking about like the black women. But that's

1403
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: just the thing. You don't have a problem with them

1404
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: doing this.

1405
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm saying, is it a coincidence that these

1406
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: black women, brown women, people that are professionally covered this

1407
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: league before Kaitlyn Clark got here, none of them are

1408
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: walking around feeling like, yeah, man, they're just beating up

1409
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: on Kaitlyn Clark because she's a little white girl, right

1410
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: like all of them. And I don't think it's just

1411
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: a racial solidaritything. I as a guy who just loves basketball.

1412
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, all rookies take their licks, that's the part

1413
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: of it.

1414
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get your glass.

1415
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: But this idea is she's like this helpless victim on

1416
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: the court that's just constantly being beaten, and like like

1417
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: that's crazy and it's a crazy framing and it might

1418
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: move you know, ratings, get clicks, but it is so

1419
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 2: fucking offensive, And so I find it to be disrespectful

1420
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 2: and it is now seeping in off of the Internet

1421
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 2: in the real life, and I think the league has

1422
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: to address it.

1423
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes they do. They have to address it because,

1424
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: like you said, these are people who live these lives

1425
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: every day. You have to address it for the fucking

1426
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: safety of your players.

1427
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: You have to address it, and you have to squash

1428
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: it down, and you have to make some changes, like

1429
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: listen to your players. Like I've heard several good ideas

1430
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: just in the last few days that I'm like, yes,

1431
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: why that's so easy to do? Delete those comments off

1432
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: of the social media stuff. Don't allow people to just

1433
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: come on your page say racist, bigoted shit like it's okay,

1434
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: no that y'all need to If you need to have

1435
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: a full time person, then you have a full time

1436
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: fucking person.

1437
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: Rock everybody.

1438
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, you know, make it so

1439
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: you have to approve comments, whatever you need to do.

1440
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: This is a league that has to be protected differently

1441
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: than some other leagues. I'd definitely like to see some training,

1442
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 2: like some players and some media people have some mandatory

1443
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: training on this shit. I don't mean like individually like

1444
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: call each one out, but like, hey, we're covering this league,

1445
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 2: and we're dealing.

1446
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: With some growing pains, but we're also dealing with.

1447
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Some zero tolerance racism shit that we don't want to

1448
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: have to address and deal with individually.

1449
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: Collectively, these are the talking points period.

1450
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: This won't be tolerated like cause to that credit, I

1451
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: haven't seen any player participate in this shit, and I

1452
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: think that's major, because that tells you the culture of

1453
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: the league. By the way, like in the NBA, you

1454
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: still got some motherfuckers that's on some make America Great

1455
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: Again shit that will vocally come out and be like

1456
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 2: it's my right. There are zero of those in the WNBA.

1457
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 2: The culture is zero tolerance already.

1458
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: The league needs to pick that up.

1459
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: The office need to pick that up and be like, yes,

1460
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: that is the culture of our league, zero tolerance, and

1461
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: come in here doing some racist shit. You getting kicked

1462
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: the fuck out the game. Period. The other thing I

1463
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: think they could do is they should And I saw

1464
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: this on Twitter and I wish I fuck. I wish

1465
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: i'd saved the person's name who said it.

1466
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 7: But.

1467
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: Someone brought up a great idea is that they should

1468
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: have a league campaign, the same way that you have

1469
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: campaigns for stuff like.

1470
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: Voting. Yes, they need a league campaign.

1471
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: Yes, zero tolerance, zero tolerance. You're like like the NBA,

1472
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: Like the NBA cares.

1473
01:16:59,400 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 3: Yes.

1474
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: Every time I go to an NBA game, they still

1475
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: have the like you're gonna get kicked out this game.

1476
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: You active fucking.

1477
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: Food every single time the letter, the letter come on

1478
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: the PA system and she'd be like, look you act

1479
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: the food. We got the right. They'll put you out

1480
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: of here. You will get you may get suspended, fine

1481
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: and or arrested.

1482
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sure they have that at w NBA games too,

1483
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: but I think they have to go further because their

1484
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: players are more under attack at this moment, and you

1485
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: need to have like a vocal campaign and the prominent

1486
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: players in the league need to all be in it because.

1487
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,520
Speaker 3: I think.

1488
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 2: You are gonna have to put because not everyone that

1489
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: is trained to be able to talk like this. This

1490
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I don't I don't get

1491
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: into the like Kaylyn Clark vers of the white girl

1492
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: shit because it's all fake. Like Paige and them grew

1493
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: up different, Like Paige went to a program we had

1494
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: that was like the culture is different, it's more big time.

1495
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: You got black people on it.

1496
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: She grew up in the state where you're gonna play

1497
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 2: playing ball with black people all the time.

1498
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 3: It's a different fucking culture.

1499
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: Yes, not everybody coming from it is versed in this ship.

1500
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: Not everybody's all prominent on the internet and and and and.

1501
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 3: Heavy on social media. So okay, fine, I can't.

1502
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: No one can make you learn the language of social

1503
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: media social justice, like no one can make be like

1504
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 2: spending some hours on the internet fighting trolls.

1505
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 3: But what you can do is you had this campaign

1506
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 3: and you like read these lines.

1507
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's very fucking important that you have people

1508
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: like Kaitlin Clark amongst others sitting up Angel Reese as well,

1509
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: like sending it up being like, we're not finn to

1510
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 2: tolerate this.

1511
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: Right because it allows them to address it without addressing it,

1512
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: like you're addressing it because it's in the campaign.

1513
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: It high key, low key tells fans how the fuck

1514
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: they need to react. Yes, it's telling, it's informing fans. Hey,

1515
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: this is how the players treat it. This is how

1516
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: the league treats it. This is how you should treat it.

1517
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: Zero Toller for this hate speech bullshit, And you train

1518
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: the media that way, you know, because you're not gonna

1519
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: be able to stop these hot take talking heads like

1520
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: Shannon and Steven Ay. Like I said, I made this

1521
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: point to start this off because I know someone's gonna

1522
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: write it in.

1523
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: But Rod, you can't. I know. I didn't say you

1524
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: can stop racism.

1525
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: I didn't say you can stop Shannon and Steven ain't

1526
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: going on the air and being like.

1527
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 3: Oh Lord Jesus, please don't eat this little white girl.

1528
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 3: She's just a little white girl. She just want to

1529
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: play ball. Why you black women being so mean?

1530
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: You can't stop them from doing that every time they

1531
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 2: get a chance so they can go viral on Twitter.

1532
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 3: But you can say the culture.

1533
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: Of our league is more important than growing it with

1534
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: racist harassing trolls. I agree, who, in my opinion, are

1535
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: not growing the league. I don't think Dave Portnoy is

1536
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: growing the league. I don't think out Kicksports is growing

1537
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: the league. And to empower them with that growth by

1538
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: giving them credit for it, you are capitulating to the

1539
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: racist and the biggests. Immediately you are saying to them

1540
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: that you are what is growing the w NBA.

1541
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: That is not true, right, because a lot of times

1542
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: when people don't stick around.

1543
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 2: That is just not true, right, you're not growing the

1544
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: w NBA. Cut that shit out. If you think people

1545
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: are reading those hit pieces on black women and going

1546
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: can't wait to go to a game, you're out of

1547
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: your fucking mind. The league is way more of the

1548
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: black women and the LGBT people than it is Kaitlyn Clark's. Yeah,

1549
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 2: so you think these people sign up for season tickets

1550
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: and all this shit because that's what they're doing. They're

1551
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: not just going to see Kayln Clark. They're going to

1552
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 2: see WNBA teams play period. If you think that's what's happening,

1553
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: then you're sorely mistaken. If you think that these racist

1554
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: people are tuning in and that's what millions of people

1555
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: want to watch, is a white girl get up by

1556
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: black women and fight about it, you're wrong. Like I'm

1557
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: not saying they don't that Kaitlin clarss in our box office.

1558
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: They're definitely watching her for a skill set. They're watching

1559
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: where she shoots the ball from all that stuff. It's great,

1560
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: it's fun. But whatever percentage it is that you think

1561
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: of just watching to be racist, don't empower them by

1562
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: giving them credit for the rest of these motherfuckers that

1563
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,839
Speaker 2: came just to see some basketball, right period.

1564
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: So I like, I said that that whole thing.

1565
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad she spoke up, obviously, but this is like

1566
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: our saicond or third time.

1567
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: It don't matter.

1568
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 2: The league needs to step in and say we don't

1569
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: want this fuck what y'all then just be condescended, be mad,

1570
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: but we don't think we need to.

1571
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 3: Grow like this mad all right? I want to watch

1572
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: the vice president of debate so zero two.

1573
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: Hundred Placatin and clock a zero for the racism be hundred.

1574
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I give it a Dracars.

1575
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: The woman showing up with the nails, thats a lot. Yeah,

1576
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: it's not really about Kaitlin Clark, this whole situation. I

1577
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 2: waited till you know, the we really saw how this

1578
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: shit unfolded. And honestly, I'm very disappointed in the league,

1579
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: in the commissioner, and I'm very disappointed in the lack

1580
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,440
Speaker 2: of a plan from the front offices.

1581
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: And I'm very.

1582
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: Disappointed in the media, who, especially so many of these

1583
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: men who wrote this condescending This is just what it

1584
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: takes to go to league bullshit. You should be ashamed

1585
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: of yourselves and your hypocrites. Because when it was the men,

1586
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: you didn't believe this. Right, when it was Kaepernick, you

1587
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: didn't believe this. You didn't write a bunch of pieces

1588
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: about this.

1589
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: Just what it takes.

1590
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: He gotta go fuck it. Black lives don't matter, stop

1591
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: putting that shit on the field. You didn't say that.

1592
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: So you do think there's a there's a stand that

1593
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: needs to be taken against racism, but not women's women. Now,

1594
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: then they just gotta take it funk out of here.

1595
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, that's it. We'll be back maybe tomorrow,

1596
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: definitely Saturday for feedback. Ballsy Sports is gonna be Friday.

1597
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's it for now. So until next time,

1598
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 3: I love you.

1599
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: I love you too.

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: Wow,