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Speaker 1: Previously on Weedian.

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Speaker 2: House, domestic workers are affected, We're seeing farm workers affected.

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Speaker 2: There's a historic black community in Altadena that's been wiped out,

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Speaker 2: and insult to injury. We've got cops out there saying

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Speaker 2: that people are looting and it's people trying to go

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Speaker 3: We get these distress signals that there are armed guards

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Speaker 3: here and a contractor telling us that we all have

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Speaker 3: to get on these buses that have all shown up

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Speaker 3: and we don't have a choice, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: where we're going, but they're saying that we have to

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Speaker 3: evacuate the whole area of the soldiers home there. None

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Speaker 3: of them were under a mandatory evacuation nor an evacuation warning.

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Speaker 3: You know, again, to take advantage of something so low

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Speaker 3: and use it as an excuse to wipe people off

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Weedian Howes. I'm your host, Theo Henderson.

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Speaker 4: This is the third part of our coverage of the

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles fires. We're going to be speaking to a

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Speaker 4: survivor of the fire and an organizer with the sila

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Speaker 4: Unhouse Coalition. We're also going to take a moment to

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Speaker 4: look at two kinds of violence towards the end house

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Speaker 4: direct and then direct, most recently here in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: as well as in Detroit and Fremont, California. But first

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Speaker 4: on Housed News. We begin our story with a tragic note.

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Speaker 4: Detroit native Tatiana Williams lost two of her children to

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Speaker 4: hypothermia while sleeping in the car. Miss Williams had been

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Speaker 4: houses for three months. She has also pointed out that

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Speaker 4: she's reached out to the city multiple times for resources

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Speaker 4: and in assistance, and outside the city as well. She

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Speaker 4: asked for the children's father, who did not know that

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Speaker 4: they were houseless. After the deaths, the city offered to

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Speaker 4: pay for their funeral and build a house for the

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Speaker 4: remaining children of Miss Williams. It is unclear if charges

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Speaker 4: are going to be filed. Our next story shows a

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Speaker 4: violent response to an unhoused person. Security officer Sean Trasvant

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Speaker 4: slapped anused woman in Los Angeles at the downtown location

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Speaker 4: of Taco Bell. It should be noted protesters are calling

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Speaker 4: for security officer tra Von sys firing. Our third story

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Speaker 4: takes us to Freebot, California, where the volunteers are implicated

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Speaker 4: of being violent criminals. City leaders are voting to pass

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Speaker 4: an ordinance where aiding and abetting the unhoused community is

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Speaker 4: a crime. In plainer terms, it is now against the

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Speaker 4: law for volunteers to give the young house water, aid, blankets, money,

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Speaker 4: or anything else. Our last story takes us to Aurora, Colorado.

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Speaker 4: The city leaders have voted to remove warning times before

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Speaker 4: the unhoused community is swept. This ordinance was inspired by

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Speaker 4: the Grants Past ruling, and Aurora's mayor said in his

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Speaker 4: own words that this was his version of tough love.

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Speaker 4: The mayor has also created a court for unhoused people

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Speaker 4: that deals with low level offenses and this is unhouses.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we will take a moment to

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Speaker 4: remember the two unhoused children who passed away and to

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Speaker 4: be more away to the escalation of the elimination of

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Speaker 4: out house people. Welcome back to Weedian House. I'm Theo Henderson.

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Speaker 4: To leave this place before your children is not in

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Speaker 4: any parent's wish or dream. Having your children leave before

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Speaker 4: you while houseless is a double blow. By now, many

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Speaker 4: have heard the story of the deaths of Miss Tatiana Williams,

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Speaker 4: two children's ages nine and two, as we discuss this

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Speaker 4: in Unhunted news as well. Close to us in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: read recently encountered another form of violence to an unhoused

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Speaker 4: woman in downtown Taco bell In other parts of California,

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Speaker 4: Life Freemont it is now a criminal act aiding and

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Speaker 4: abetting unhoused people. That means handing out water, food, or

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Speaker 4: money to unhouse people. I wish I could say that

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Speaker 4: these incidents are in isolation and are not connected. If

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Speaker 4: you can demonize a person, you can criminalize a person.

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Speaker 4: Right now, our country is criminalized in poverty and it

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Speaker 4: should be spoken out at every opportunity. Our last point

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Speaker 4: before I start our first intervi you unhoused people in Aurora,

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Speaker 4: Colorado are being targeted again by cutting down warning time

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Speaker 4: for unhoused people to get aid except shelter or going

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Speaker 4: to jail. In other words, how did we get here?

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Speaker 4: And how far downhill will we go?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 4: Over four years of wee in house, from audio to

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Speaker 4: you listen to this episode, dramatic climatic events are increasing, landslides, fires,

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Speaker 4: strong winds will be the culprit in displacing more people.

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Speaker 4: These laws will impact them most certainly as they impact

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Speaker 4: today with Alex, a survivor of the Alter Data fire

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Speaker 4: earlier this year, please take note of his experience of

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Speaker 4: being unhoused before and now his second time through no

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Speaker 1: Here's Alex's story.

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Speaker 5: My name's Alex Valentine. I'm from Altadena, California, born in Pasadena,

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Speaker 5: you know, pretty much lived there my whole life, minus

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Speaker 5: when I was in foster care. I was in foster

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Speaker 5: care for about ten years, mancipated out of the system

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Speaker 5: at twenty two, you know, homeless at eighteen, and here

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Speaker 5: I find myself, you know, homeless again. So it's definitely

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Speaker 5: it's a big, you know, kind of full circle moment

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, you know that many times,

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Speaker 4: many people that have experienced, like myself, houselessness, we have

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Speaker 4: something like unforeseen circumstances. And I'm going to ask a

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Speaker 4: very stupid question, so I apologize in advance. Could you

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Speaker 5: Again, not at all. And you know, I say homeless

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Speaker 5: because the home is gone. But thankfully this time around,

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Speaker 5: I've been able to land on my feet, staying with family.

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Speaker 5: Right now. I'm very lucky and very fortunate. There's a

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing that also I found that too recently

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Speaker 4: it was come to my attention that someone's house did

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Speaker 4: it makes it very difficult for them to live in

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Speaker 4: not where it should be, and into ingesting all of

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Speaker 5: Oh one hundred percent. You know, Altadena is such a

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Speaker 5: seventy percent of Altadena has gone homes burned asbestos everywhere.

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Speaker 5: There's no way those people can return. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: Or even taking a bath of shower. You may not

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Speaker 4: I have heard about the water where I know people

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Speaker 4: where were you when the fires happened and how did

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Speaker 5: So I was living up in Altadena with my aunt uncle,

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Speaker 5: going to school at PCC full time. Really it was

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Speaker 5: a blessing, you know, the fire started that there was normal.

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Speaker 5: I went to school, went to work, came home. The

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Speaker 5: My uncle didn't want to leave at all because he's

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Speaker 4: But also, if I may point out too, is that

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Speaker 4: But this fire was an anomaly. It wasn't like the

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Speaker 4: missed with a lot of people didn't understand this was

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Speaker 4: It was now at the same time, it wasn't just

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Speaker 4: that's I think that's the distinction where people miss misunderstand

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Speaker 5: So exactly, and you know, my family's been in the

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Speaker 5: through so many fires up there and never did they

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Speaker 1: Come down and love. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So basically my one uncle didn't wan to leave

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Speaker 5: unless we had the mandatory evacuation. And so I'm refreshing, refreshing, midnight,

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Speaker 5: having to look all the way to my right, they're

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Speaker 5: Updated three hours ago three am rolls around, still nothing,

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Speaker 4: Misinformation for that because there were people's family members helping

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Speaker 4: And they're saying that if you go past this tape,

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Speaker 5: Do you prefer on house?

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Speaker 1: But it's few.

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Speaker 5: So I think I had like eight black trash bags

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Speaker 5: a bed, I can replace clothes. I can't replace pictures

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Speaker 5: or you know, things from my grandmother.

434
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Speaker 4: That's one of the things that my biggest regrets is

435
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 4: I had a picture of my one of the very

436
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Speaker 4: few pictures of my mother when she was a younger woman,

437
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 4: and I lost it. Being on house, they threw all

438
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 4: my stuff away and I didn't get back in time.

439
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: And that's one of the few pictures I've I've had

440
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Speaker 4: her because like my mother was not always the photage

441
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Speaker 4: most photage in it. And I zeink about that when

442
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: you mentioned that, Like, you know, that's one of my

443
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: biggest regrets, never losing that that that part. It may

444
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 4: not have been important to the sanitation or the city,

445
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 4: but it meant the world to me, and I put

446
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Speaker 4: it in a place to cherish it. So something happens

447
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 4: to me that I didn't get, you know, lose it

448
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: in my pocket and things like that, but it ended

449
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 4: up losing my belongings. So that's I totally understand what

450
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Speaker 4: you mean by that.

451
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 5: But again, like in foster care, I learned to again

452
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Speaker 5: separate myself from my belongings. I think it's also like

453
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Speaker 5: a Buddhist teaching right to not want or to not desire.

454
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Speaker 5: And I'm not I'm not there, I'm not i have

455
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: nowhere close to the Buddha. I'm not enlightened, I'm none

456
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: of that. But I think it is it helps you

457
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: cope a lot when you're able to detach yourself from

458
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Speaker 5: the things that you want.

459
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Speaker 4: It's also in in a way to not to be fraudian,

460
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: but also like the disassociative kind of thing to protect

461
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: like for you know, there are certain elements of like

462
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: the sweeps, or certain elements that I find myself putting

463
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Speaker 4: up to protect my psyche or protect me from not

464
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: having a full meltdown or having a breakdown, to protect myself.

465
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Speaker 1: Like you know example.

466
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Speaker 4: You know, even when we rebuild, you rebuild by having things.

467
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Speaker 4: If I can be okay losing you know, like Okay,

468
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 4: I lose these pair of pants. They ain't They're not

469
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Speaker 4: expensive that you know, I can get very you know,

470
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: these shoes they ain't.

471
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Speaker 1: You know, They're not Nikes, air Force Jordan's or anything

472
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: like that.

473
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Speaker 4: These are just it's just from two to four, Okay,

474
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: I lost that a serious paperwork I had. You know,

475
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: Fortunately I had some friends to to hold that or

476
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: help the whole things that I was gonna consider that

477
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: I didn't want to keep out on and where I was,

478
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: uh that could be stolen or thrown away.

479
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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I can I can live

480
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Speaker 1: with that.

481
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: But that there was that kind of the desulsitive pattern

482
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: I noticed, like you know, if I came tomorrow and

483
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: all my stuff was gone, it's it's not going to

484
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: break me down, like you know, unless you know, like

485
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: my bed roll I had or.

486
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Speaker 1: Things like that.

487
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Speaker 4: I found always tried to find a way to you know,

488
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: be able to recoup in a different way that it

489
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Speaker 4: wasn't going to cause a beltout.

490
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think another thing that helped me is

491
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Speaker 5: I got super into philosophy when I was just like

492
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Speaker 5: in Foster Care, on a much shallower level than I

493
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 5: am now. Now I feel like I've looked into it

494
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 5: much deeper. And you know philosopher or well, I guess

495
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 5: Roman emperor, you know, Marcus Aurelius. Part of his whole

496
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 5: thing is if you can't change it, don't worry about it.

497
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: You know, in Layman's terms, if you can do something,

498
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Speaker 5: do it. If you can't, just let it go. And

499
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 5: I've tried to adopt that. And you know, I went

500
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 5: to AA a lot with my grandmother. She would take

501
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 5: me to meetings. I'd be like a little five year

502
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: old kids sitting at the AA table and I'd listened

503
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 5: to all their stories. And you know, the one thing

504
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 5: that stuck with me was the serenity prayer, you know,

505
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 5: where you asked God to give you the strength to

506
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 5: change what you can and the strength to accept the

507
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 5: things you can't change. And I've tried to always implement

508
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 5: that in some way, right So if I can't, my

509
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: house has gone in a fire. I can't change that. Mourn,

510
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 5: but let it go, you know, because life is just

511
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: much harder when you sit and you dwell on the

512
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: tough stuff. And I think, and I don't know your

513
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: story one hundred percent, you don't know mine one hundred percent.

514
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 5: But from my experience, if I were to sit and

515
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 5: dwell on every bad thing that's happened to me, I

516
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: wouldn't be here right now. I wouldn't be sitting here

517
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 5: talking to you. I would still be unhoused. I would

518
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: still be homeless. You know, I would maybe on drugs,

519
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: maybe not on drugs, but I would I would not

520
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 5: be here if I just, you know, sat and just

521
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 5: focused all the negativity.

522
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily have to be in house. But

523
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: this is a thing too. I think a society has

524
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: eisier two extremes. Is I don't want to say that

525
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: Okuna Matata kind of thing. They got that one, like

526
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, they break out in the song like you know,

527
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: the Sun's gonna come out tomorrow, or they just have

528
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 4: an apathetic like the whole like Chicken Little the world's

529
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: sky is fault and there's you know, it's like the

530
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 4: difficulty is to find that sweet spot or that balance, like, okay,

531
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Speaker 4: you know this happens.

532
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I can't pretend it didn't happen. This happens. This sucks.

533
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: I morn, cry, whatever I need to do, but I

534
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: have to. I got to keep going because life is

535
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: not stopping to wait to me to do this. But

536
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: that's not Likee's job. My job is to cope as

537
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: the best as I can, and if I need help,

538
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 4: I need to be okay enough to let go. Some

539
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: of the shame by society is at blaming shaming society,

540
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: if I must say, And it's very difficult sometimes even

541
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Speaker 4: for myself to the shed that because of how people look,

542
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: or people will say some diet remark that or some

543
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: flippant remark without taking any introspection on their own circumstances.

544
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 4: You know, make things from the transitional or I won't

545
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: say enlightened period, but to phase into those new kind

546
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: of jewels that you disputed, it becomes interesting and it

547
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: becomes a bit diverse, and it becomes I won't say transcended,

548
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: but I do think it takes some work to be

549
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: able to get to that, and I can see that

550
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: it's an ongoing process with you. One of the things

551
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: that I wanted to ask is what do you say

552
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: to people that have lost things over to alter Dina.

553
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 4: What kind of support groups are there anything to get

554
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: people to want to lean in to help or to

555
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: be educated into the situation.

556
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 5: Well, I know PCC is Passing City College is kind

557
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: of like a community hub right now. I know they're

558
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: offering lots of services. I think World's Kitchen as well.

559
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 5: They're handing out meals all across Pasadena. I think I

560
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: believe the Pasadena Convention Center is still open for people displaced.

561
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 5: I would recommend looking into all of that. You know,

562
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: it's kind of like a it's a hard time for everybody.

563
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll be in line at Starbucks getting a coffee,

564
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: you know, I'll be sitting there talking to front and

565
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: the person next with me we'll hear about my house

566
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 5: running down and they'll say, I lost my house too,

567
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: you know, And it's just like everyday people and people

568
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 5: are moving on with their lives and it's great. But

569
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 5: it's the amount of support and community that Altadena has

570
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: and the amount of support Pasadena you know, has given

571
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: to Altadena has just been It's been amazing.

572
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: I was going to ask in this question too, because

573
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: I've been focusing on while the fire, what's going on

574
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 4: the un house community currently we're being swept here in

575
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: Los Angeles and other parts. Have you noticed that there

576
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: has been more of an empathetic stance a posture to

577
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: the currently the young house before they were dealing with

578
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: the fires into homes or do you see maybe just

579
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: there's this idea that there were acceptable at house people

580
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: or worthy unhoused people, and then they were unworthy unhoused people,

581
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: and there's a line of demarcation that's going on there.

582
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: Or do you see overall just good will to everyone?

583
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: You know, in my situation and from what I've seen,

584
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of goodwill. I will say there's

585
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: a few homeless people that stay at past PCC. They're

586
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 5: not shoveled off campus. They're not hey you can't be here,

587
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: Hey you got to get up. We even have like

588
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: the Lancer Pantry, which hands out food and snacks and

589
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: whatnot for free to students. And sometimes I'll see, you

590
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: want one of the homeless people going, and they'll hand

591
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: them stuff so PCC is just like a stand up

592
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: school all around. And right now I'm not in the area,

593
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a bit north, so i haven't been

594
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: able to see every day what it's been like, but

595
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: to see the support and the good faith and people

596
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: are just looking at for each other, you know, during

597
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: this time, and it's amazing to see.

598
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: If you know, one of you the things that I

599
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: point out to. Recently, there has been a ruling about

600
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Speaker 4: grants Pass. Have you heard of the grands Pass ruling?

601
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 6: Uh?

602
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: No, Grand's Pass is a ruling that make it possible

603
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: for city officials and law enforcement to cite, criminalize and

604
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: arrest on house people before they had a stop gap.

605
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: It was the Martin versus boise from the appellate Court

606
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: stating it was cruel and unusual punishment to criminalize a

607
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: human being for being a house.

608
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: The human body has to get rest.

609
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: No human being runs twenty four hours without sitting down, resting, sleeping.

610
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: It's just it's an impossibility unless you're taking some kind

611
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: of superhuman drugs and something like that. But even then

612
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: you're going to crash out. The point of it is

613
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: is that that would a way to stop cities from

614
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: just willy nilly, a targeting on house people. And one

615
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: of the things I am noticing is particularly Altadenius predominantly

616
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: majority of people of color, black and brown in particular,

617
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: and the responses.

618
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: That they would get if they were.

619
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: Now displaced, because there's always the high percentages of targeting

620
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: in them. And Grant's pass is the ruling. That's the

621
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruling. Six Supreme Court justices three dissented on

622
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: upholding that a police officer does not have to offer

623
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: you services, or city officials don't they want you to leave,

624
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: You can leave, or you can go to jail, all

625
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: of those kinds of things. Now, with the Alted doing

626
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: this situation, there's going to be people that may not

627
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: be as fortunate. Was you able to have a transitional

628
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: place to stay or work with each other? How do

629
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: you think that the newly displaced are going to fare

630
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: in under this ruling?

631
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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously I hope for the best, prepare for

632
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: the Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would have to see it

633
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: in action a few times before I would, you know,

634
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: be able to really put judgment out there. But I again,

635
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: maybe it's because I'm young, I might be naive, I

636
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: might be whatever but I I hope that the people

637
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: who are displaced are taken care of properly. You know,

638
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 5: being houseless, homeless, whatever, it's it's terrible. It's like a

639
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: it's a terrible feeling. You feel like every like, everywhere

640
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 5: you stay, you're a guest. It's just an awful feeling.

641
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 5: You're like permanently a guest, no matter where you are.

642
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: I hope that with the resources that we have, everybody

643
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: displaced is able to you know, stay on their feet.

644
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: I know it's not realistic. I know people will fall

645
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: through the cracks, and I just I hope people utilize

646
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: things like the pastinga convention center. As far as I know,

647
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 5: you can stay there until you figure out your next steps.

648
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: I know there's resources like two on one. They've partnered

649
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Speaker 5: with Airbnb, and I think Hilton, if I'm remembering correctly,

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Speaker 5: to give free rooms and free stays. And I just

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Speaker 5: I encourage people who you know aren't in a fortunate

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Speaker 5: enough situation, don't be a shame to ask for help,

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Speaker 5: especially in a time like this. Nobody could have controlled this.

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Speaker 5: I got home and I was like, oh, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: be without power for three days, you know, and then

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Speaker 5: twelve hours later, my house is burned down. Nobody could

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Speaker 5: have predicted this. Don't be a shamed to ask for help.

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Speaker 4: I also want to ask the larger moral to the

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Speaker 4: story is that creating these kind of unitative kind of

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Speaker 4: decisions on the current vulnerable population could have unintended consequences

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Speaker 4: for us as well. Because climate change is here, it's

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Speaker 4: been here, and this is going to be one of

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Speaker 4: yet many type of kind of hazards, a bio hazards

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Speaker 4: that we're going to deal with. And when we have

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Speaker 4: things on the books like Grant's past ruling, it makes

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Speaker 4: it difficult to we through the humanity. And one thing

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Speaker 4: our city officials love to do, and they do it

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Speaker 4: very well, is they have it down the criminalize the

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Speaker 4: criminalization pack. They know how to criminalize poor people. They'll

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Speaker 4: find every finding known to man to find a way

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Speaker 4: to criminalize you for trying to exist. But when you

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Speaker 4: ask them to make some decisions about helping with empathy

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Speaker 4: and other people at that they ought to put the

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Speaker 4: criminal or the car stittal rules in. But the car

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Speaker 4: stortal thing that they got that locked. But in the

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Speaker 4: empathy they're shorter supply.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think a big part of that and

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Speaker 5: not not controversial. But this may be, you know, an

679
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Speaker 5: unpopular opinion. I think there's a reason for that. I

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Speaker 5: think it's because their donors are from the top, right.

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Speaker 5: So if if you know, let's say I'm mayor of

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles, let's say I'm assembly member for whatever district.

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Speaker 5: If my donors are saying that they need me to

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Speaker 5: focus on these problems or whatever problem, that's the problem

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Speaker 5: I'm going to focus on to stay in office, to

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Speaker 5: keep my pockets lining, to stay you know, in power.

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Speaker 5: They don't care about the people. It's sad this, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with it. I want to say that now,

689
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Speaker 5: but but it's it's the truth. They're not the homeless

690
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Speaker 5: person on the corner, is not the one putting money

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Speaker 5: in their pockets so that they can run for office again.

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Speaker 5: And that's why we're looked over. That's why people who

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Speaker 5: are poor are looked over, because they're not the ones

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Speaker 5: putting money in politicians pockets.

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Speaker 4: You know, food for thought, I believe. I thank you

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Speaker 4: Alex for taking the time to come out and tell

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Speaker 4: us your story. Is it okay? We invite you back again?

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Speaker 4: This updates or about the situation I would love to

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Speaker 4: thank you for having me excellent. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: to Alex. You can learn more about him at the

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Speaker 4: links in our description. And when we come back, I'll

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Speaker 4: be speaking with returning guests Rachel Satoff, the volunteer organizer

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Speaker 4: at Enhause Coalition SILA in Los Angeles, about fair efforts

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Speaker 4: to help the unhouse with fire relief. Welcome back to

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Speaker 4: to cel Henderson with Weedy and Howse. Our next guest.

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Speaker 4: Rachel is a returning guest who has insightsive observations on

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Speaker 4: how CELA springs into action to be there for the

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Speaker 4: unhoused community in new novel ways.

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Speaker 1: Here's our talk.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me back. I'm so honored.

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Speaker 6: I'm Rachel.

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Speaker 7: I'm the volunteer Engagement manager at SILA, and I started

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Speaker 7: there as a volunteer and then as the organization grew,

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Speaker 7: I ended up stepping into this role last year. And

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Speaker 7: what I do is my focus is on supporting our volunteers,

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Speaker 7: because our volunteers are supporting our participants. This is a

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Speaker 7: volunteer lot organization. It was here long before there was

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Speaker 7: a staff. I am a support system for that, and

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Speaker 7: so what that looks like is developing trainings, being a

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Speaker 7: welcome point, a point of contact for our volunteers, so

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Speaker 7: that when volunteers see that there's things that are needed

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Speaker 7: at a program based on participant needs or new roles

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Speaker 7: that need to exist within a program to support I

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Speaker 7: help facilitate that process. So it's a mixture of a

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Speaker 7: lot of communications, a lot of training, developing trainings, and

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Speaker 7: a lot of being sort of the person on the

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Speaker 7: ground who is kind of a connector between our large

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Speaker 7: volunteer group.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a mouthful. That's what makes your program and unique.

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Speaker 4: Volunteers are sometimes people of the community that are unhoused,

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Speaker 4: and conversely, in some of them that are housed, it's

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Speaker 4: impopery of people that are making the machine of Sealave work.

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Speaker 4: I was going to ask this question because this is

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Speaker 4: a large arching conversation. We mentioned recently about Grant's past

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Speaker 4: in our previous episodes, so I don't want to beat

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Speaker 4: that horse to the ground, but there is something in

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Speaker 4: the ether about this conversation which I'm leading to is

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Speaker 4: about the LA fires and how that is the unintended

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Speaker 4: consequence that it's on the books, but we are not

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Speaker 4: really discussing it, or we are deliberately omitting and tiptoeing

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Speaker 4: around it, and that in the consequences. Do you think

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Speaker 4: that we're going to see grants pass looming larger as

743
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Speaker 4: the aftermath of the l fires simmers down and these public

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Speaker 4: empathy wanes.

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Speaker 7: I absolutely do, and I'm devastated that That's how I feel.

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Speaker 7: But I'm a realistic person, and we see what's happening

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Speaker 7: all around, and I think what to connect it to

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Speaker 7: the fires and what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 6: I just think the fact that and How's.

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Speaker 7: People were completely neglected in the emergency response.

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Speaker 1: It was swept as well.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, they were not just neglected, swept, So they were

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Speaker 7: like much very important correction there, and we were already

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Speaker 7: seeing the effects of it, and we're already seeing that

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Speaker 7: even in an emergency, none of that changed, So we're

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Speaker 7: just preparing for that to be an issue.

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Speaker 4: What message do you think that they were sending to

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Speaker 4: the currently in house that were not impacted by the fires,

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Speaker 4: Because I couldn't find a logical reason that you would

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Speaker 4: think that you would expend more resources to do that

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Speaker 4: when resources were limited, when the water was waiting, you know,

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Speaker 4: staff were under I mean, what message what they're trying

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Speaker 4: to send that's the only thing I could come up with.

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Speaker 1: They have to be signed to send some kind of message.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's just the fact that there's no

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Speaker 7: place you can be in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: And we know it's not just Los Angeles. That's just

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Speaker 6: where we are right now.

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Speaker 7: There's no place you can be where like our capital,

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Speaker 7: our property. That's what makes you worthy in the eyes

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Speaker 7: of these systems, and so.

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Speaker 6: Just making that clear in the most heinous of ways.

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Speaker 4: I have had a recent interview with a young person

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Speaker 4: that was affected by the Altadena fire. The place he

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Speaker 4: was staying with his uncle and aunt's house from to

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Speaker 4: the ground and he's fortunately living with others family members,

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Speaker 4: but the rebuilding efforts is going to take some time

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Speaker 4: due to the pollution and the abastos that these buildings

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Speaker 4: were old and not always up to code.

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Speaker 1: And even if you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Have your house unpackeded by the fire, you're still impacted

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Speaker 4: by the pollution of nearby burned houses and the mobility

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Speaker 4: or the feasibility to move back into those damage impacted houses.

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Speaker 4: It's just not really sensible at this moment. And so

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Speaker 4: I bring this observational point to the attention to my

786
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Speaker 4: audiences that what I definitely maybe want to bring into

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Speaker 4: sharper relief is how the society has made themselves or

788
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Speaker 4: bent themselves over backwards of trying to offer support. But

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Speaker 4: the honeymoon phase of that kind of consequence is going

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Speaker 4: to rapidly evaporate. And I was wondering, am I remiss

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Speaker 4: in mentioning that or a miss and even mentioning that,

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Speaker 4: or do you sense that that's going to be, you know,

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Speaker 4: a common thing, just like what happened with the comtrenter flooding.

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Speaker 7: You mean, in terms of there being this temporary like

795
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Speaker 7: suggestion of support.

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Speaker 4: Infusion of resources and things like that. Do you what

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Speaker 4: is your astick?

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Speaker 7: I feel that to be realistic, I unfortunately have to

799
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Speaker 7: agree that we're not going to see that continuously.

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Speaker 6: And it was so precient.

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Speaker 7: We literally discussed this when we had our first conversation THEO.

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Speaker 7: We have unhoused folks who are completely on the front

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Speaker 7: lines with zero protections, So that's one group, But then

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Speaker 7: we also have renters who similarly don't have protections when

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Speaker 7: they're housing it's damaged, So we already have such huge

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Speaker 7: groups that aren't protected already, So there just isn't that

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Speaker 7: system of support that has existed before a crisis, And

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Speaker 7: so it's hard for me to imagine that infrastructure existing

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Speaker 7: during a crisis. And we see it at CELA, the

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Speaker 7: fact that Celia is actively filling gaps that are constantly

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Speaker 7: widening when there is technically not a crisis, even though

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Speaker 7: we know homelessness is obviously a crisis. But if we're

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Speaker 7: talking about this environmental catastrophe, we're already saying that there's

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Speaker 7: gaps that just keep widening and widening in terms of

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Speaker 7: providing support. So I want to believe that somehow we'll

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Speaker 7: have a society that provides these kinds of resources. But

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Speaker 7: just in the work we do, we know so well

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Speaker 7: that communities and neighborhoods are who comes together to provide

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Speaker 7: this kind of support. And that's amazing and I'm very

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Speaker 7: grateful to know so many people who are part of

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Speaker 7: that and feel it and beyond.

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Speaker 6: But we know that we need.

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Speaker 7: More support than that, and so it's just hard to

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Speaker 7: imagine that suddenly we would have that.

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Speaker 4: The city is halfway beating the moment, not meeting the moment,

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Speaker 4: or meeting is a moment.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think if you're not providing long term support,

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Speaker 7: then it's really not meeting the moment, you know, like

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Speaker 7: kind of figuring out like what we're talking about here,

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Speaker 7: It's like we need long term support. And we see

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Speaker 7: that communities act faster than it can.

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Speaker 4: Because SILA was before the fires, was in direct wiring

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Speaker 4: and of helping unhouse people. When La fire has burst,

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Speaker 4: what since then has Sela gone to meet this moment?

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Speaker 4: Meet this crisis?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, So I'm very grateful we were able to adjust

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Speaker 6: our programming very quickly.

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Speaker 7: And that is because again, as you said, we recognize

839
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Speaker 7: that there are many crises happening and things are compounding,

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Speaker 7: but every day is already a crisis. If there are

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Speaker 7: people dying on the streets. We know the statistics. We

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Speaker 7: know that people I believe is six the most recent

843
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Speaker 7: reporting that six on house people die day in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 7: We know that more on house people in Los Angeles

845
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Speaker 7: die from hypothermia then in cities where you might expect

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Speaker 7: it more where we typically think of as colder. That's

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Speaker 7: a crisis.

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Speaker 6: And so we.

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Speaker 7: While this is a completely new crisis that is going

850
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Speaker 7: to have many long term effects for our current participants

851
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Speaker 7: in future participants, we were still built to go, and

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Speaker 7: so how we responded immediately was at first just making

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Speaker 7: sure that every program that we already had was prepared

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Speaker 7: to continue. So what that meant was checking in on

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Speaker 7: our volunteers to see if they had to evacuate, and

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Speaker 7: once we knew we had enough volunteers who were safe

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Speaker 7: and able to still go, then it was figuring out

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Speaker 7: how to move our program indoors, to protect our participants

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Speaker 7: from howzardous air quality, how to make sure we had

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Speaker 7: enough mass. We're very grateful that so many people in

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Speaker 7: the community donated mass to us. We see the work

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Speaker 7: that Mass block LA has been doing within their organizing.

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Speaker 7: So changing what we were able to provide in terms

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Speaker 7: of spaces where we held things, and resources and.

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Speaker 6: Supplies that we had to give.

866
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Speaker 7: So the immediate was making sure that everything we already

867
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 7: do was set to go. Then what happened that was

868
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 7: very much an immediate response was we became, like so

869
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 7: many different organizations, we became a temporary distribution hub. So

870
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 7: what that meant is typically we might be as staff

871
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 7: or a few volunteers, we would be at Silver Li

872
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 7: Comunity Church, where many of our programs are held. We

873
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 7: would be there to do different kinds of work, but

874
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 7: we wouldn't necessarily have some large event or action taking place.

875
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 6: And that change.

876
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 7: Where we spent our Thursday and Fridays as a temporary

877
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: distribution hub, and that was putting calls out on social media,

878
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 7: letting people know that we were here, whether it was

879
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: they themselves needed supplies or if they had supplies to provide.

880
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 6: So we became kind of a.

881
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 7: Holding space where we could send out supplies to groups

882
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 7: who were immediately responding to fire relief. So that was

883
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 7: just collecting food, collecting clothing, collecting supplies, we were talking

884
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 7: about masks, just getting as much as we can and

885
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 7: figuring out where to send things. So we send it

886
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 7: out to groups that were supporting unhoused folks in area

887
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 7: that were closer to the fires directly. It was sending

888
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 7: it out to groups that had activated to help the

889
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 7: people whose houses had been lost or who had to evacuate.

890
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: So it was just kind of immediately changing what CELA

891
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 7: usually is, which is a program for unhealthed people in

892
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 7: these specific neighborhoods to we will collect any supple you

893
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 7: can bring if we are a location where it.

894
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: Is easier to bring them and we're going to figure

895
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 6: out where to send them.

896
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 7: We're going to send people out to drive, We're going

897
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 7: to be moderating replies on monitoring replies on our Instagram

898
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 7: and in our email, letting us know where things need

899
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 7: to go. And one of the things we learned that

900
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 7: was incredibly helpful and responding to these fires because we

901
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 7: know that, unfortunately this is not going to be the

902
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: first time we have a new emergency on top of

903
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 7: what we already deal with, was we had to we

904
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 7: created kind of an open door culture in terms of

905
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: how we were going about this temporary distribution hub we

906
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 7: had going on. And so as an organization that is

907
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 7: built to respond to crisis, that means that there are processes.

908
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 7: So there is a sign up process, there are specific roles,

909
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 7: there are certain numbers of people we want in those roles.

910
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 7: We might send someone to a different program if they're

911
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: needing more support over there. There's like a very organized process.

912
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 7: And that was not going to be how to respond

913
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 7: to what was happening in those first days after the fires.

914
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: And because why, Because it was a unique situation, and

915
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: I've been trying to make it very clear even in

916
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 4: my other interview, was explaining California is no stranger to

917
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: brush fire, and we knew basically we do have some

918
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: kind of fledgling type of system, but this emergency was

919
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: so unique in a way. It caught people by surprise

920
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 4: by the high winds, the motility of the fires. One minute,

921
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: it was going in one direction, then you get evacuation

922
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: notices from that, but then it moves into another one.

923
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: Then you can't go there, and it causes a conundrum

924
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: or a quandary for currently unhoused people. Because I had

925
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: on my previous show one of the house residents that

926
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: had the fire right across the street from where she lived,

927
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: and she had mobility issues herself to be able to

928
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 4: try to navigate that kind of reality. And then two

929
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: with limited feedback from the phone because not everyone has

930
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: a charge phone and being unhoused, it created such a

931
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: very It was a buzz of certainty, It was a

932
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: buzz of confusion, and it was a buzz of panic

933
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: in many respects because people that had cars, they had

934
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 4: to leave their cars behind and just just hoof it.

935
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: I point this out because of these issues.

936
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: That usually are not accounted for in the conversation or

937
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: advanced in any kind of conversation that we extend our

938
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: hearts to, we have a more of a sympathetic ear.

939
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 4: But if we put the conversation where unhoused people on

940
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 4: a daily basis having to navigate transportation or mobility issues,

941
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: or that're disabled and they can't move right away when

942
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: the neighborhood wants them gone, we don't have that empathy.

943
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: And it leads into that were which the city seems

944
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: to be leading the banner and they're going to help

945
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: only that were impacted by fires, but not you know,

946
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: currently unhoused people. We're going to give you a sweeping criminalization.

947
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: And it lends the conversation between newly displaced people, a

948
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: current displaced people, and people that are invested in their

949
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: owner price and not understanding how these situations are interlock.

950
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: And then you know, you could be doing everything perfectly

951
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: and you lost your entire house and now you're the

952
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: mercies of the city and the climate because there's you

953
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: might not have any resources.

954
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: You lost your house, you know exactly.

955
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 7: And I think that's such an important point to bring

956
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 7: up because something that many of us noticed in those

957
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 7: immediate days was, of course, especially when we were at

958
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 7: distribution Hub, we let everybody know when they were donating

959
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 7: things that if this was intended for a fire relief,

960
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 7: we are going to make sure this gets to people

961
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 7: working directly in firelaf because we know how many organizations

962
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 7: were already focused on doing that or switched to focus

963
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 7: on that, and we do not want to hoard supplies

964
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 7: that are meant for groups that need them more in

965
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 7: this moment. But then, as I'm sure we all saw

966
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 7: a lot of groups became overwhelmed with supplies because people

967
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 7: that was their way of supporting was just kind of

968
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 7: dropping off supplies. But we know that that's a lot

969
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 7: of people don't have storage space. People nobody wants to

970
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 7: hoard these items. So then when we switched Gears because

971
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 7: we were no longer needed to support in that way,

972
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 7: it was like, Okay, we're gonna let people know, well,

973
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 7: we're we also need these supplies for ourselves, and we're

974
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 7: going to make that clear if people come with donations

975
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 7: what they're going to be used for. And of course

976
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 7: that was an incredible education opportunity. We had a lot

977
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 7: of experiences of letting people know who we were. They

978
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 7: may have learned about us from our response to the fire,

979
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 7: but actually we work with our unhoused neighbors in these neighborhoods,

980
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 7: and we're here every week, and it was wonderful to

981
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 7: see people engage in with that way and have now since.

982
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: Volunteered or I became like donors.

983
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 7: But then what we also had with some people who

984
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 7: were like, oh, this isn't going to the fire victims,

985
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 7: because it was like, I feel good supporting somebody who

986
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 7: recently became unhoused, which is horrible, and those people need support,

987
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 7: but that's different from somebody who's been unhoused because of

988
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 7: this other crisis that is long lasting in the city,

989
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 7: and that was very disheartening to have moments like that. Obviously,

990
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 7: I'm trying to look at all of the interactions I've

991
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 7: had where this became somebody's.

992
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 6: Entry point into this work.

993
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 7: But we know that that also means interacting with people

994
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 7: and more difficultly.

995
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: So you know, I've been trying to grapple with that

996
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 4: and try to do it and creatively as I possibly

997
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: can to show that, and I show how because of

998
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 4: the usual stereotypes that they use about house people, they're

999
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: mentally ill, they have substance abuse problems, they like being

1000
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: out there and all of the other ridiculous things that

1001
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 4: they say. And now here is a catastrophic event that

1002
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: happened on people that were living their lives living. You know,

1003
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: they weren't known substance in while they were in a house.

1004
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 4: You can't blame that. You know, they like being out there.

1005
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: This is it really something that pretends this is going

1006
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: to happen much more on a reoccurring basis. Now it's

1007
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: bridging the uncomfortable conversations of the unintended consequences like Grant's pass,

1008
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 4: like forty one eighteen, like having these hard conversations about

1009
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: what does harm reduction look like, what does trying to

1010
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: have treatment and places or hubs that care be able

1011
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: to meet the moment in order to address climate change

1012
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: issues as well as human frailties and human realities that

1013
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: people are impacted by with houselessness. And there's I need

1014
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: to say this because I had heard the most ridiculous

1015
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: comment someone mentioned that they stated at a gathering saying

1016
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: that it's a classing, it's not a racing. And I

1017
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 4: want to push back on that because of the fact

1018
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: that Altadena resources were very targeted, very limited, where when

1019
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: we talked about the matches and Palisades and the other

1020
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: palatial areas. The response was like night and day. And

1021
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have any insight on that,

1022
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: but what do you think on this?

1023
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 7: I mean, I just think that you can't ignore racism

1024
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 7: and systemic racism in this city. I just think that's

1025
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 7: too ingrained to think that something is only a class

1026
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 7: a class issue. Of course, class is huge, but I

1027
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 7: just don't think that that can be separated. I think,

1028
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 7: you know, I think it's very important for us to

1029
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 7: see the solidarity that exists as people experiencing the same

1030
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 7: kinds of class issues. But it's just it's and avoidable

1031
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 7: to see how people in the city are treated, what

1032
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 7: resources are available to them, and redlining. That's how Altadena

1033
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 7: became the flourishing cunity that it is is because of

1034
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 7: red lighting. So I just don't see how any of

1035
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 7: that can be ignored when you look at the if

1036
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 7: we're talking about Altadena specifically, if we look at the

1037
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 7: generations that lived within these beautiful homes that have been

1038
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 7: within these families for generations that are now gone, and

1039
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 7: what the response has been, I just it's unavoidable, and

1040
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 7: it's just the fact that it's also doing as specifically like.

1041
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: And point lake blank that where they have National Guard,

1042
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: they got police, police people. And the thing with is

1043
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 4: these movement leaders that state these things do a disservice

1044
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: and it's infuriating because they spout this in a nonsense

1045
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 4: without understanding. My show is always has been about intersections,

1046
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: and intersections are important. What affects one group will ultimately

1047
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: affect all of us. We are seeing this right now

1048
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: play out with the immigration conversation or actually or the

1049
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: criminalization immigration that's being enacted against black and brown people,

1050
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: and conversely, the other people that are immigrants from New

1051
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: northern northern places, all of these other European countries are.

1052
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: Not being targeted now.

1053
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: Conversely, DEI has been translated as a woke thing as

1054
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: it's been targeted as people colored, you know, unqualified black

1055
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: and brown people.

1056
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: But there are.

1057
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: Many other community that are targeted with the eradication, for example,

1058
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: the disability community, the veterans, all of these things that

1059
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: because you are trying to snuff out the light from

1060
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: other communities in order for you to get a brighter light,

1061
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: doesn't make that okay. I say, you don't have to

1062
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 4: diminish any other community in order to get your story

1063
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: or get your voice heard. And as I said, you know,

1064
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 4: if you have a heart, use your heart to love somebody,

1065
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: but if your heart is big enough, use it to

1066
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: love everybody.

1067
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 7: I think that is beautiful and I think the way

1068
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 7: you describe that very succinctly gets the issue.

1069
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll finish this conversation after the break and

1070
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: we're back.

1071
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, CEILA has been doing important

1072
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 4: work and it's continuing. What residual effects are you seeing

1073
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 4: from the fires?

1074
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 7: Yes, so I would say, especially because of what my

1075
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 7: role is and where I have the most insight is

1076
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 7: the growth of ourvolunteer base and the interest in volunteering

1077
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 7: with SILA has been astronomical. And if my colleague, maybe

1078
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 7: our operations manager, maybe Pudlow also known as Maybe a Girl,

1079
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 7: was here, they would also be able to talk about

1080
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 7: that also translates to an influx of resources, and so

1081
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 7: I'll talk about that as well. But first I would

1082
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 7: love to talk about on the volunteer side of things.

1083
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 7: What's been incredible is that I know we touched on

1084
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 7: the kind of open door culture we created within those

1085
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 7: first few days where it's like we don't care who

1086
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 7: you are don't worry about this sign up process, don't

1087
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 7: worry about going on our website.

1088
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 6: Did you see us on Instagram?

1089
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 7: Here's the address, come over like that was amazing that

1090
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 7: people showed up, But what was so heartening was that

1091
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 7: we also had some people sign up to now constantly

1092
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 7: get our communications and constantly get our information about future programs.

1093
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 7: So I pull this information about a week ago where

1094
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 7: I want to see how many people had signed up

1095
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 7: as on our volunteer mailing list since the fires broke out.

1096
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 7: So that was between I believe the evening of the

1097
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 7: seventh through the twenty first, I think was the day

1098
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 7: I did it.

1099
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 6: And so from the seventh to the twenty.

1100
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 7: First, we had over two hundred and forty new people

1101
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 7: signing up on that mailing list.

1102
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 6: And on an average month.

1103
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 7: We have maybe fifty to seventy new folks signing up,

1104
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 7: which is thrilling because that's fifty to seventy people, but

1105
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 7: compared to two hundred and forty within not even a

1106
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 7: complete month, was amazing. And so where our responsibility comes

1107
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 7: in in this moment is like, if we now have

1108
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 7: that many more people who are going to get an

1109
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: email from us, will they open it we don't know,

1110
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 7: but we've got their email now, so we're going to try.

1111
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 7: It became how do we create as much of an

1112
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 7: opportunity for folks to actually engage and be on site

1113
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 7: and meet their neighbors and see the big picture of

1114
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: what is happening in Hycila it exists, And so it's

1115
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 7: been a lot of convening with our people who volunteers,

1116
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 7: who lead our program.

1117
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 6: We have volunteer program directors.

1118
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 7: So we recently did this huge meeting among about seventeen

1119
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 7: or eighteen of us figuring out, Okay, if we have

1120
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 7: these many more people who have signed up, we need

1121
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 7: to make sure there's the opportunity for them to actually

1122
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 7: engage and not ever actually make it to a program.

1123
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 7: So figuring out what is the most accessible way for

1124
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 7: people to plug into this long term and not just

1125
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 7: I want to do something because of this fire emergency,

1126
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 7: which we need you there, but we need you for

1127
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 7: a lot longer. And so it's been a lot of

1128
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 7: figuring out how to create an accessible programming so that

1129
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 7: we can offer more services because we have more people

1130
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 7: with resources.

1131
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 6: And another big thing that is part.

1132
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: Of that is we need to now create education so

1133
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 7: that all of these folks who are engaging with this

1134
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 7: for the first time, because for a lot of people,

1135
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 7: this might have been the first time where they saw, Oh,

1136
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 7: leaders I look to in a traditional sense did not

1137
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 7: provide immediate to but this mutual aid group I saw

1138
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 7: on Instagram is or Celia is or whoever it might

1139
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 7: have been, Like, I just think what mass Block is

1140
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 7: doing is amazing, just like what all these groups are doing.

1141
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 6: We have to use that.

1142
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: Energy they have for them to see how long this

1143
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 7: has been going on and why it's happening and why

1144
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 7: they feel so betrayed or disillusioned right now for maybe

1145
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 7: what might be the first time for them, or maybe

1146
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 7: they've been.

1147
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 6: Thinking about it but didn't know. And so our goal

1148
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 6: is that even.

1149
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 7: Before this specific crisis occurred. We decided last year after

1150
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 7: we did our first volunteer summit, which you and I

1151
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 7: talked about THEO, which was just a day of a

1152
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 7: lot of training that about one hundred volunteers came to.

1153
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 7: It was very exciting, it was okay, we tried it,

1154
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 7: we saw that it worked, we saw what didn't. Now

1155
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 7: we need to do this every month, and it can

1156
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 7: be on a smaller scale. So it's easier to do,

1157
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 7: it's easier to organize quickly, and so it was like, cool,

1158
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 7: that's something we're going to plan and we're going to

1159
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 7: start in January.

1160
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 6: We'll have something happening every month. And then this happened

1161
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 6: and it just.

1162
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 7: Became more obvious than it already was that this has

1163
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 7: to be a huge goal. So there's been a lot

1164
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 7: of figuring out what these trainings are going to look like.

1165
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 7: There's has to be a lot of kind of one

1166
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 7: oh one level conversations that have to happen for some folks,

1167
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 7: and also more intensive conversations that need to happen at

1168
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 7: these trainings. So it'll be history information, know your rights

1169
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 7: type of information. We're going to have people speaking about

1170
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 7: the climate crisis, so that folks understand how these prices

1171
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 7: become so exacerbated and what is the impetus of that happening.

1172
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 7: And it's just figuring out how to make this surge

1173
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 7: of interest become long term.

1174
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 6: Very organized power.

1175
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 7: And so that's on the people side of things, and

1176
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 7: then in terms of resources, we are for the first

1177
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 7: time in a long time, we're able to see through

1178
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 7: maybe he's organizing and maybe he's inventory tracking. We can

1179
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 7: kind of look ahead and see, oh, we have enough

1180
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 7: supplies for our participants for a few months, and that's

1181
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 7: a really big deal. And of course we know participant

1182
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 7: numbers are always growing. Even if this crisis hadn't happened,

1183
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 7: participant numbers are growing. But now we have more people

1184
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 7: we're going to experience housing insecurity for the first time,

1185
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 7: if they're not already experiencing homelessness for the first time

1186
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 7: because of it, and just using what came out of

1187
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: these few weeks to power us through what is going

1188
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 7: to be a very long haul. And one of the

1189
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 7: things we also did that is now able to be

1190
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 7: part of our programming long term was we launched our

1191
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 7: laundry program, which had been a short term program in service.

1192
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 7: We were able to offer because we had funding for

1193
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 7: it at the time through a laundromat that is near

1194
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 7: one of our programs, and we were able to afford

1195
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 7: to pay for our certain number of participants laundry every week.

1196
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 7: And then it quickly became something we realized we couldn't sustain,

1197
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 7: and it was not it is. It's very important to

1198
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 7: us that if we offer something new, it has to

1199
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 7: be something we can promise because we don't want to

1200
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 7: create the same culture of not having any consistency for

1201
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 7: folks in crisis. If we're offering something, it has to

1202
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 7: be because we can promise it. So when we realized

1203
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 7: that wasn't the case, it was like, Okay, we have

1204
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 7: to rethink how to make this work, and our goal

1205
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: is that at some point in twenty twenty five we'll

1206
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 7: be able to make that happen. And then in response

1207
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 7: to what happened in the fires, it became this huge

1208
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 7: opportunity for us to educate people on social media and

1209
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 7: through our newsletter communications. This is why we had a

1210
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 7: laundry program. We had a laundry program after the torrential

1211
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 7: rains in February twenty twenty four, when we had so

1212
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 7: many participants whose clothing was completely damped, it became mildewed

1213
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 7: because it had to dry on its own, and that's

1214
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 7: when laundry became very clear that it was now in need.

1215
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 7: And so once again we had a weather emergency showing

1216
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 7: us that laundry is a crucial need in terms of hygiene,

1217
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 7: in terms of safety, in terms of health, in terms

1218
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 7: of dignity. And then it was like, okay, maybe this

1219
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 7: is a time where we can relaunch this program and

1220
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 7: make it sustainable. And so we opened a fundraising drive

1221
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 7: where we explained the purpose of a laundry program and

1222
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 7: we are thrilled that we exceeded the bowl and that

1223
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 7: means we'll be able to offer laundry for hopefully beyond

1224
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five were covered, but definitely for this year.

1225
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 7: We are good and we'll be able to build on that.

1226
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 7: And so just expanding our programming with the resources we've

1227
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 7: been now very generously provided, and using the increased volunteer

1228
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 7: numbers here to educate people and welcome people so that

1229
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 7: they'll want to do this work long term. Because we

1230
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 7: talked about the very limited support that some folks have gotten.

1231
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 7: We know that that's going to dry up for house people,

1232
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 7: and we know it's already been dried up for unhoused people.

1233
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Speaker 4: So absolutely well said, and I like the I had

1234
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 4: the idea of how one of the runoffs from climate

1235
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: is this issue with the laundry, because I definitely grappled

1236
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 4: with that and into Mozon house people when you see

1237
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: them taking bird baths in places and things like that,

1238
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: they're trying to mitigate their appearance and their body olders

1239
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 4: and laundry is one of the telltale signs.

1240
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: If you don't get that taken care.

1241
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: Of right away, people will look or don't want to

1242
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: be around you. You're going to have to worry about

1243
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 4: being the pariah, and then your services are going to

1244
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: be reduced or basically ignored it and dismissed because there's

1245
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 4: places that have now older contracts, or you can be

1246
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: refused service because you have an older or you are

1247
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 4: not that consider their hygienic or sanitary. The last thing

1248
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask of you is this now, picture

1249
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 4: this picture of Rachel coming to you, and now you

1250
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 4: have all of this doubts. I know you didn't have

1251
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: all of this knowledge when you first came on. How

1252
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 4: would you get her to come back or get involved?

1253
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: What would you do to convince Rachel?

1254
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 7: That is such a good question that I think about

1255
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 7: all so I first try to connect with the fact

1256
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 7: that somebody is here because they were seeking community and

1257
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 7: they knew we existed, and that if you're here, you

1258
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 7: are now part of that community. The goal that when

1259
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 7: you feel like you're part of somewhere, the hope that

1260
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 7: you will then feel a responsibility to do that work.

1261
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 7: Something that makes me very happy is sometimes when someone

1262
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 7: volunteers for the first time and I ask them what

1263
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 7: brought them here, and they'll tell me, oh, you know,

1264
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 7: there's a couple of unhoused people I always see on

1265
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: my street and I talk to them and I say hi,

1266
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 7: but I it just made me realize how many more

1267
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 7: people I don't know that are dealing with this, and

1268
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: something pushes them to do this work. And then when

1269
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 7: it's the end of the shift and I say, it

1270
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 7: was so lovely meeting you, I hope we'll see you again,

1271
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 7: They'll be like, everybody's so nice, I'll be back next week.

1272
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 7: And so what kept them is that they saw something

1273
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 7: that maybe they don't see somewhere else, which is kindness

1274
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 7: in community and understanding that we all depend on each other.

1275
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 6: So my first goal is.

1276
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 7: Connecting with someone in that way, and then once someone

1277
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 7: shows that they feel that responsibility, the goal is making

1278
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 7: sure that our programs always have an opportunity to reference

1279
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 7: something bigger picture.

1280
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 6: So we start all of our programs with something that

1281
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 6: we colloquially.

1282
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 7: Refer to as the huddle, and that's just before we

1283
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 7: open our doors to let folks in to come get

1284
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 7: their services.

1285
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 6: We just all talk.

1286
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 7: We all introduce ourselves, and we talk about some bigger

1287
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 7: picture things where it might be an event we have

1288
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 7: going on or specific emergency we're responding to, referencing the

1289
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 7: fact that there's all these other programs happening during the

1290
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 7: week to show the big picture nature of everything and

1291
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 7: that this is not this is not some one off opportunity,

1292
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 7: This is an entire movement within different neighborhoods.

1293
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 6: And then through that.

1294
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 7: In person communication, just helping people see how much is

1295
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 7: happening all the time, so that whatever specific way they

1296
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 7: choose to regularly engage with.

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Speaker 6: CELA, they know that it exists.

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Speaker 7: So if that's maybe everyone has is working mustiple jobs

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Speaker 7: to survive, maybe it's hard for you to always vlunteer

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Speaker 7: a program, but you know that from hearing us talk

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Speaker 7: about it a program. You know that we have these

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Speaker 7: trainings that we're starting, and you'll attend that and you'll

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Speaker 7: learn about that and be able to talk to people

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Speaker 7: about something you might have learned about the difficulty of

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Speaker 7: navigating housing resources in the city, or maybe you're a

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Speaker 7: graphic designer and you'll hear that we're trying to up

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Speaker 7: our game on social media and you'll want to provide

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Speaker 7: those skills, and so just showing people that this is

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Speaker 7: so much more than just a program that they go

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Speaker 7: to sign up once a week, which is incredibly crucial

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Speaker 7: and the entire reason we're here and necessary, but that

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Speaker 7: this is a much larger picture in terms of building

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Speaker 7: a community in a city and a country that would

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Speaker 7: like to keep us separated and would like to keep

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Speaker 7: us overwhelmed and feel powerless. Hello, we see what's happening

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Speaker 7: with all these disparage of executive orders, so that we

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Speaker 7: feel like there's nothing we can do and we don't

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Speaker 7: know where to start, when actually you can start on

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Speaker 7: your street. And just letting people know that this is

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Speaker 7: a space where they are welcome, so that when they

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Speaker 7: might hear information that might be overwhelming because it's history

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Speaker 7: they're not familiar with, or shows the purposeful dysfunction within

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Speaker 7: systems that they might have had faith in, that they'll

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Speaker 7: know that it's a supportive place and they'll feel comfortable

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Speaker 7: hearing that because we know that people are in different

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Speaker 7: parts of their journey based on what they may have

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Speaker 7: ben conditioned or what their own experiences are. So I

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Speaker 7: know that was a very long answer, but you can

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Speaker 7: say I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 1: It all the time.

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Speaker 4: Oh very good, so in some connection, also finding your

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Speaker 4: place and purpose in it, and also educating yourself and

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Speaker 4: others like reach one, teach one.

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Speaker 6: Love it.

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Speaker 4: I feel that that succinctly sums up what I was

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Speaker 4: trying to do. But I also I'm very grateful for it.

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Speaker 4: Is there any topic that I missed that you want

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Speaker 4: to throw out there to tie in or wrap up?

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Speaker 7: I think that I would just love to invite anybody

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Speaker 7: listening to this to volunteer with us again. Wherever you

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Speaker 7: are in this journeys, this is your first time realizing

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Speaker 7: that there's a problem where we live, we would love

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Speaker 7: to have you. If you are someone who already has

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Speaker 7: so much knowledge and so much experience, I hope that

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Speaker 7: we get to meet you so that you can help

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Speaker 7: our programs grow. And just letting folks know that when

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Speaker 7: they join us, there will be training that they get

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Speaker 7: on their first day in addition to this long term

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Speaker 7: training that we're in the process of developing. Please follow

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Speaker 7: us on social media Instagram, especially which is se Lah

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Speaker 7: NHC Cila Nhcno. It's a lot of letters, but we

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Speaker 7: provide all of the information there so that you know

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Speaker 7: what events we have coming up, what our weekly programs are,

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Speaker 7: where to sign up, and also when we have specific

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Speaker 7: actions taking place. And just that I hope people know

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Speaker 7: that we are actively responding to what's happening regarding the

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Speaker 7: fires and more we have some know your rights trainings

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Speaker 7: coming up. Just that I hope that people can and

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Speaker 7: see us as not just a resource, but as we

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Speaker 7: just talked about, as a community where they are welcome

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Speaker 7: and where they can find the connection and the support

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Speaker 7: that might not exist elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much, Rachel.

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Speaker 4: This is the place where I think we could conclude

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Speaker 4: our exciting and informative interview.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much, THEO.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to Rachel.

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Speaker 4: You can learn how to get involved with Cela and

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Speaker 4: more about their relief efforts at the links in the description.

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Speaker 4: And this once again is the end of another important,

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Speaker 4: interesting episode. I will leave you with a quote from

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Speaker 4: Desmond to to do your little bit of good where

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Speaker 4: you are. It's those little bits of good that overwhelm

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Speaker 4: the world. If you have a story to tell, please

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Speaker 4: reach out to me at will House at gmail dot

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Speaker 4: com or Wedian House on Instagram. Once again, thank you

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Speaker 4: for listening, and maybe again meet in a lot of understanding.

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Speaker 4: Whedian Howes is the production of iHeartRadio. It is written, posted,

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Speaker 4: and created by me Theo Henderson, our producers Jbie Loftus,

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Speaker 4: Kailey Fager, Katie Fischal and Lyra Smith. Our editor is

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Speaker 4: Adam Wand and our loco art is also by Katie Fischal.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.