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Speaker 1: Let me give another look. Here, I'm wearing yellow. She

424
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: likes to wear black. She was eyes that frightened me. Really,

425
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: my heart jumped the beat when I looked at her.

426
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: And normally I don't look at them, but her eyes

427
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: were so penetrating I involuntarily ended up looking at her

428
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: and her eyes met It's like, does she cast a

429
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Speaker 1: spell on you? No, she started, she was mumbling. She

430
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: was mumbling at me, and I walked in because now

431
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I tell the owner of all these shops and restaurants

432
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Speaker 1: when there's a crazy person right outside, because I figured

433
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: they want to know in case, you know, businesses down this.

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Speaker 1: So I went to him and he goes, oh, yeah, yeah,

435
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I saw her. He goes, yeah, we put out a

436
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: call to get some She likes to leave us presence.

437
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: I came in this morning and there were presents left

438
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Speaker 1: for me. What is that poop? Yeah, that's what he was.

439
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: He just did what he was referring to. Yeah, but

440
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: there was other customers there, so he didn't want to

441
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: full a present. It's an unpleasant present, I guess. She

442
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: lifted up her long black coat and fired off a present.

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Speaker 1: So the mayor says that New York state law already

444
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Speaker 1: allows the city to intervene when mental illness prevents somebody

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Speaker 1: from meeting basic needs, but he says there's a common

446
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: misunderstanding that we can't do this with involunt They call

447
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: it involuntary assistance. Involuntary, it really wouldn't be assistance if

448
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: they're not volunteering. Unless a person is an immediate harm,

449
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: like the holding a knife to their throat. I guess

450
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Speaker 1: we have to put that to rest. He brought up

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Speaker 1: the example, and it was kind of what you were

452
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Speaker 1: just saying. The guy on the street corner who's doing

453
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: pretend boxing, mumbling to himself, you know, just acting out

454
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Speaker 1: some strange paranoid cyclosis in his head. He says, those

455
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Speaker 1: kind of people, and you may think there's a few

456
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: of them, but there's more than you think. I've seen

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Speaker 1: three of them in less than a week. This was

458
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Speaker 1: the third one in front of a place I was

459
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: walking in to buy food. I went to one bagel

460
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Speaker 1: shop and there was the guy I think I told

461
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: you about him the other day, and he's yelling at

462
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: his imaginary friend, and he's got his arm around another

463
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: imaginary friend and was talking quietly. He had liked, he

464
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: liked two people in his group, and he was scary

465
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Speaker 1: and threatening. And then there was the crazy lady who

466
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: was yelling with an Eastern European accent in front of

467
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Speaker 1: the grocery store. And she was really worked up. She

468
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: was leaning on a garbage can, just shouting. And I

469
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: went to the security guard at the grocery store and

470
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: they said, you see her, Oh, yeah, she's around all

471
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: the time. It's like wow, oh, And they just pushed

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Speaker 1: her away, pushed her aside after a while. And then

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Speaker 1: this third one this morning. So I don't I got

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Speaker 1: three in a week, and I don't. I don't. I

475
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: don't drive that far from my house. Well, I would

476
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: like Karen asked to even say something like this, because

477
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: at least this is even if they don't carry this

478
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: very far, this might just be for show. It's going

479
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: down the right road. In fact, even got praise from

480
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: some Democrats on the New York City Council, even got

481
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: praise from a legal aid society. They all think and

482
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: common sense tells you you've seen these people. John just

483
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: describe them. The mayor in New York describe them, that

484
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: these are the easy types to take off the streets

485
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: because he says they often refuse help. Maybe I don't

486
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 1: even know what you're asking, right, So you can't let

487
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: that get in the way. And what the activists always says,

488
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: you just want them out of sight. You just want

489
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: to remove them against their will because you don't want

490
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: to look at them. No, I don't. I don't want

491
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: to look at them, and I don't want to feel

492
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: threatened by them, and I don't want to get knifed

493
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: by them. And if you don't like it, that's too bad.

494
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: You go live somewhere else. It just seems that normal

495
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: people in this town, in any other town, ought to say,

496
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, this is the way we want to live,

497
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Speaker 1: and we have the right to go and buy breakfast

498
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: without fearing. And that's some crazy person is going to

499
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: slit our throats. And if you think that's unreasonable, I

500
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should go.

501
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: We should get so aggressive with these with these groups,

502
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: these these these anarchist activist groups who want to protect

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00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: all the schizophrenic crazy people because they're not doing these

504
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: people any good, which means they're just doing it for

505
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: themselves because they enjoy the anarchy. And it's how they

506
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: make their money, it's how they get funding. That's what.

507
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: If they cared about the homeless, they would not allow

508
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: them to rot and die in the streets. So their

509
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: their whole stick is totally fake. All right, we will

510
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: return Johnny Ken Show kf I Am six forty Live

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Speaker 1: everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You tend to die jury appears.

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00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: The electricity should now have passed through your body until

513
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Speaker 1: you undid. An update from the Johnny Ken execution disc

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Speaker 1: Here's John and Cars, John and Ken, Champoll and calf

515
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Speaker 1: I Am six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Wow. Well, yeah,

516
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: we're we're We've been covering this story for some time

517
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Speaker 1: now and it's taken what might be a final twist.

518
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: The inmate is Alan Eugene Miller, who was sentenced for

519
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Speaker 1: a triple murder July thirty, first, the year two thousand

520
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: in Alabama. He is three hundred and fifteen pounds and

521
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: they've been trying to execute him, but it's been tough

522
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: to find a vein to hook him up with lethal

523
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Speaker 1: injection because he said he's subjected to lethal injection. Shouldn't

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Speaker 1: his veins be the size of railway tunnels. I couldn't

525
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: tell you. I would think on a hefty guy, right,

526
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: he's got more blood flowing, more blood bumping through there.

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00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: So he has fought his own execution through various means,

528
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Speaker 1: including the claim that we just talked about, that he

529
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: is not suitable for lethal injection. In fact, he took

530
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: this so far he said, well, if you want to

531
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: kill me, the way you're gonna have to kill me

532
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: is nitrogen hypoxia, which got our attention here at the

533
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: execution desk because that's one we've never heard of before.

534
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: And what came down from a judge in a settlement is,

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Speaker 1: if Alabama wants to execute this man, they cannot lethally

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00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: inject him. And apparently the state agreed to that. They

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00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: could not connect an IV line. He's three hundred and

538
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: fifty one pounds. They tried to find a vein and

539
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: they poked him with needles for over an hour, for

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Speaker 1: over an hour, they couldn't find a vein. Too fat,

541
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Speaker 1: They couldn't. It's all stuck under the fat, too fat.

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Speaker 1: And they left him hanging vertically as he lay strapped

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Speaker 1: to a gurney. Right, I don't even understand that they've

544
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: had problems with IVY access during at least four executions

545
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. Three of the four had to be halted. Well,

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: that's that's just a bad system and that those are

547
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: bad employees. Why don't they get somebody from a hospital.

548
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: During a nitrogen hypoxia execution, the condemned person would be

549
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: made to breathe in pure nitrogen gas, killing them as

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00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: their blood oxygen level falls. The gas would likely be

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: delivered by a gas mask. Now, an employee of the

552
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: state had previously asked Miller to be fitted for a

553
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: gas mask, but he said no because again, he's just

554
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: trying to put this off. So he looked up something bizarre.

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00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: If the governor actually signed a bill that approved nitrogen

556
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: hypoxia as an alternative method back in twenty eighteen. But

557
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: it has never been used to execute a human being,

558
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: and so they have no other states to draw information

559
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: from Alabama to develop a first of its kind protocol

560
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: for its use. It still hasn't finalized its protocol for

561
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: a nitrogen hypoxia execution. It's just so complicated. But a

562
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: state attorney said, we're getting close, so they may kill

563
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: this man. Yet, through his preferred means. He killed three

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00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: men in two workplace shootings in nineteen ninety nine. An

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00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: employee entering Ferguson Enterprises saw this man exit the building

566
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: before finding two men shot dead inside, and then he

567
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: went to another former employer's site and killed a third man.

568
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: This is a fatheaded triple murderer who in one headline

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00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I saw, oh he escapes death, but acting like wow,

570
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, they failed to execute him. This is incredible. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing that I did not know. If they

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00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: did lethally inject him and killed him, he would be

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Speaker 1: the first person who has ever faced a second time

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Speaker 1: with lethal injection since nineteen forty seven. There was a

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00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: man that they did became jack a second time in

576
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. It should be impossible to screw this up.

577
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Do you know how many murders are committed every day

578
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: in the United States? Fifty, which means random people off

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00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the street successfully kill fifty people a day. No training,

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00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: no protocol, they're not they're not following any list of

581
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: rules and regulations. They just kill fifty times a day.

582
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: And this crowd in Alabama you do this. I don't

583
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Speaker 1: know what to do. I can't find a vein. Well,

584
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: funny you said that, because just two weeks ago, Alabama

585
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: tried to execute another inmate, Kenneth Eugene Smith, and they

586
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: got a late start and they couldn't find a vein

587
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: and they called it off. Okay, so they're having veins

588
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: they needed. I don't know if this guy's fat. I

589
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: don't see his picture. They need an upgrade in their employees.

590
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you grabbed a couple of nurses out

591
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: of any hospital, they'd find the vein real fast. Well,

592
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: they might morally object. Well, they can't. A lot of

593
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: people medical professional executing people. It's Alabama. You'll find somebody.

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00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: It's not that hard. Pay them enough. Members of the

595
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: execution team were a medical personnel, said a government official.

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00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: I'll learn how to do, but he did not know

597
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: their specific qualifications. Does this happen with obese people? Really?

598
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Their veins just disappear under the fat um? I mean,

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00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never I just well, how about

600
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: how about a gun. This guy I'm apparently spent a

601
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to hire somebody to kill a woman by

602
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: the name of Elizabeth Dorlean Senate. Um, that's what he

603
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: was a murder for hire. In fact, since we're dealing

604
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: with murderers, why don't we let these guys kill themselves.

605
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: They've already proven they have the talent. True, So just

606
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: hand them a gun and say here, you know what

607
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: to do. That's true. Just you know, lock them in

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00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: a dark room and take care of yourself. So I

609
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: don't understand why states look at the bright side. Maybe

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna open up a new door and we're gonna

611
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: have a chance at nitrogen hypoxia executions. Maybe we'll find

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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: that that one's easy to do, that it's clean, nobody

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00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: suffers that happen. No. Plus, I want them to suffer

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00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: the anti death penalty. People will find a reason why

615
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: that's inhumane, all right. When we return, Steve Gregory will

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00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: join us. There was an update today out on Riverside

617
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: concerning the murder of a couple and the adult daughter.

618
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: There was a man Virginia police officer who pretended to

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Speaker 1: be a seventeen year old online and he came to

620
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Speaker 1: Riverside to claim their fifteen year old daughter slash granddaughter,

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Speaker 1: and he ended up killing the three of them. Steve

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Speaker 1: will join us next. John and Ken Calf I Am

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Speaker 1: six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and Deborah

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Speaker 1: Mark Live in the twenty four Cafe news room