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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Mother Knows Death. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: great stories for you this week, so we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: started with the story of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a lot for you today. So our

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Speaker 2: story of the week is about a nurse that was

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Speaker 2: killing her patients at a nursing home out of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Actually it was between five nursing homes over the last

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Speaker 2: few years. So Heather Presdy, she was forty one years

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Speaker 2: old in May, she was accused of killing two of

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Speaker 2: our patients and just recently has admitted to killing up

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Speaker 2: to nineteen of them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so this sounds awfully familiar to something that one

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Speaker 1: of our friends went.

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Speaker 3: Through, right, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: So everyone's heard of the Good Nurse or Amy Lochrin.

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Speaker 1: She's one of my great friends, and this actually, well

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen to her, but it was one of

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Speaker 1: her coworkers that was a nurse was killing patients. His

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Speaker 1: name was Charles Cullen, and she was the person that

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Speaker 1: really brought him to justice. She was the one that

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Speaker 1: And the story sounds so familiar because this woman that

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Speaker 1: just got accused was killing patients with insulin. Charles Cullen

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Speaker 1: was killing patients with insulin. And there was also a

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Speaker 1: nurse in the UK that was killing infants that also

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Speaker 1: just got convicted fairly recently, and she killed I believe

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Speaker 1: it was up to seven newborns. She was in neonatal

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Speaker 1: nurse and she used insulin some of the times too.

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Speaker 1: So it's just really curious, or I'm really curious why

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Speaker 1: they decide to use that particular drug to do it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really curious. I know why, because I think

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Speaker 1: maybe test for that, and it just seems like the

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Speaker 1: drug of choice, I would say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it seems like she started doing that. She

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Speaker 2: admittedly started doing it in twenty twenty, but maybe was

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Speaker 2: over night shifts, which there's definitely less staffing during these shifts,

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Speaker 2: for her that they couldn't trace what was going on.

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Speaker 2: It was a mix of diabetic patients that actually needed

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Speaker 2: And her victims ranged in age from forty three to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and four. So this is really disturbing. I

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Speaker 2: feel like this is becoming more of a common story

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Speaker 2: we're definitely seeing in the headlines. Historically, it's definitely been happening.

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Speaker 2: Even in this month's grocer and book Club selection, we're

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Speaker 2: reading The League of Lady Poisoners by Lisa Parrin, and

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Speaker 2: she touches on a nurse that had used some medications

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Speaker 2: to poison her patients. So, and this theme was also

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Speaker 2: depicted in the show Fargo, where one of the nurses

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Speaker 2: was getting this sick thrill out of poisoning her patients

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Speaker 2: and then stealing their jewelry and ended up being busted.

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Speaker 2: She had a closet full of people's jewelry and little

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Speaker 2: this seems like such a victorian or old concept to

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Speaker 2: and it's horrifying because everybody at some point in their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really scary. And let's talk about insulin as

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Speaker 1: a manner to kill someone. So when you eat normally,

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Speaker 1: when you have a disorder such as diabetes type one

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Speaker 1: So if you give a person that has diabetes insulin,

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, she's been charged

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Speaker 2: dependent person. So this is still an ongoing investigation. Who

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Speaker 1: Which is interesting too because if it just recently happened,

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Speaker 2: So our first story involving celebrities today has to do

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Speaker 2: with Brooke Shields. She was doing prep for a shoot

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Speaker 2: she was getting mixed signals a little bit. And then

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Speaker 2: was essentially drowning herself and caused herself to have a

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Speaker 2: ton It's a tonic clonic seizure.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's how I would say. It's a remember

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Speaker 1: Tonic clonic is like is easy to remember. But these

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Speaker 1: So when you say it's provoked, it means that like

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Speaker 1: then other times you could get it for unprovoked, which

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Speaker 1: and happens from things like medications and electrolyte imbalances, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's seeming like doctors are saying this is a

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's a rare thing to happen. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's weird to read these stories that

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Speaker 2: But I just I have said this before the story.

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Speaker 1: So did someone just die a couple months ago from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe we talked about a child that drowns

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a crazy plant lady, and I

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Speaker 1: not There's certain plants that I need, like my ork

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Speaker 1: So you understand, like you just have to understand your

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Speaker 1: body and that's it. Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's move

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Speaker 1: on to to Sylvester Stallone, which I love him. I

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Speaker 2: was he was really nice. But you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: But full talk shit on my boy, now, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: So he's doing a new documentary and I don't I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure where it's at, but it's called on Netflix

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Speaker 1: on Netflix and it's called Sly and he talks about

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Speaker 3: Did have you?

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't heard about this particular incident. So what's

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Speaker 2: Drago's what's his real name, Dolph Lundgren?

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Speaker 3: And you've met him or saw him?

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Speaker 2: So he he was actually really cool. And do you

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 1: getting metavact in its own was gonna die because a

438
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Speaker 1: dog attacked them. But whatever, I'm not some like pro

439
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Speaker 1: animal rights activists or whatever, but I do think it's

440
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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 3: It's like that.

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Speaker 1: You sometimes these animals are like put in a situation

443
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Speaker 1: that they didn't want to be in, and now you're

444
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Speaker 1: like punishing them for being an animal.

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Speaker 3: Basically, like I think all new listeners should know.

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Speaker 2: Both of us are not huge dog people, but we

447
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: will never say it's okay to do something like this

448
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Speaker 2: to a dog, especially you, especially with the shark store

449
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Speaker 2: you just mentioned. It's like you go into the sharks

450
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Speaker 2: home and then you kill it for acting the way

451
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Speaker 2: it acts in it's home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't have even been there in the first place.

453
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Speaker 1: So that the next rotte, while our story is is

454
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Speaker 1: just so insane and it's not what you would think

455
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Speaker 1: of a classic.

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Speaker 3: Dog attack, No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: So this pregnant woman was walking down the street in Rome,

458
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Speaker 2: she was on vacation, and an eighty five pound rottweiler

459
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Speaker 2: fell to its death from the from the no sorry,

460
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Speaker 2: the third floor of this building up of her and

461
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Speaker 2: it died and she was severely injured. The baby ended

462
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Speaker 2: up being okay, But it's really unclear how the dog,

463
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Speaker 2: like if it jumped. Some people were saying it was

464
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Speaker 2: chasing kat. Some people say it was being shotted. There's

465
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Speaker 2: all these crazy conspiracies.

466
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Speaker 3: Going around about it. The owner's being a little shady

467
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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: It's a very came outside and saw her dog laying

469
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Speaker 1: dead on the ground and was crying and freaking out.

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Speaker 1: And the pregnant woman's mom was standing there and was

471
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Speaker 1: just like, my daughter's unconscious and bleeding on the ground

472
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Speaker 1: because your dog just felt three stories and felt on

473
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Speaker 1: her and knocked her unconscious, and you're crying over your

474
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Speaker 1: dog dying right now, Like that's that's a little sick

475
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Speaker 1: to me, honestly. But what a freak accident, right, Like

476
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Speaker 1: how how could you even predict something like that would

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Speaker 1: ever happen? Like I never even thought about that, like

478
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Speaker 1: new fear unlocked kind of thing, Like now there's going

479
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Speaker 1: to be huge when you're near some kind a high rise.

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Speaker 1: There might be a dog coming out of the window,

481
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Speaker 1: like eighty five pound dog falling three stories and landing

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Speaker 1: on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, the owners also saying trying to say that some

484
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Speaker 2: witnesses have come forward and said the dog didn't.

485
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Speaker 3: Even fall on the lady.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that she was. Yeah, they were saying

487
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: that she was scared and that's how she fell or

488
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: some Yeah, something ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Will definitely a strange story.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of hope we have updates to just

491
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Speaker 2: see how they if they've determined how the dog even

492
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: fell out the window in the first place, and then

493
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: just kind of go from there.

494
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Speaker 1: I mean, she probably could have just had the dog

495
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Speaker 1: the window open and the dog saw something it thought

496
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Speaker 1: it wanted. I mean, you can't sit there and talk

497
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Speaker 1: to a dog and tell them not to jump out

498
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Speaker 1: a window if they see something that that They might

499
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Speaker 1: even see something on the street and think that they

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Speaker 1: have the possibility to reach it with you know, their

501
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Speaker 1: their dogs. What about this story of the backpack on

502
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Speaker 1: the airplane another terrifying story.

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Speaker 2: Airplanes stories in general just really scare me, but this

504
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: one has a tinge of ridiculousness to it. So this

505
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: guy that was on American Idol season eighteen was on

506
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Speaker 2: the plane and he had a backpack and it suddenly,

507
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Speaker 2: right as the plane was about to take off, the

508
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Speaker 2: backpack started smoking and he started feeling heat around his legs,

509
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: started freaking out and stopping it, and he said his

510
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Speaker 2: first thought was that he was a musician and on

511
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Speaker 2: television and he thought somebody was targeting him.

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Speaker 1: Which, yeah, I read that, and I thought that that

513
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Speaker 1: was crazy because he has about the same amount of

514
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Speaker 1: followers that I have on Instagram, And if, like my

515
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Speaker 1: backpack was smoking on the airplane, the last thing that

516
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I would think was that one of my followers was

517
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Speaker 1: trying to hurt me. Like it's very like paranoid thinking

518
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Speaker 1: in a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the plane didn't take off, they made everybody

520
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Speaker 2: get off of it, and they did an investigation and

521
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Speaker 2: it turns out he had a portable charger in his.

522
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Speaker 3: Backpack that caught on fire.

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Speaker 1: So these like e batteries or lithian ion batteries are

524
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Speaker 1: a big topic among fire departments now because they're causing

525
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: the little ones even could cause, like a portable charger

526
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: or like a vape pen charger, they could catch on fire,

527
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and they have caught on fire on planes. This is

528
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: not the first time this has happened. But also bigger

529
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Speaker 1: things like.

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Speaker 3: Vacuums.

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Speaker 1: This is what I say with the rumba and e

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Speaker 1: bikes are a big one, especially in these apartment buildings

533
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Speaker 1: in New York City because people use these e bikes

534
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: and then they charge them like right out front of

535
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Speaker 1: the doorway, and they catch on fire and then people

536
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: aren't able to get out of the doorway. It's just terrible.

537
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: Well do you know about Ricky's story on the plane now?

538
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

539
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Tell me again.

540
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Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about that.

541
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Speaker 2: He was flying and in the middle of the flight

542
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: a fire broke out where with all the stored with

543
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: all the checked bags because somebody had a vape and

544
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: it was the button was pressing against something else in

545
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Speaker 2: the suitcase and it was holding it in lighting it

546
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Speaker 2: and then caught on fire and they had to make

547
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Speaker 2: an emergency landing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is I mean, like listen, it happens all

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Speaker 1: the time. And the more of these things that people

550
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Speaker 1: have on them, because I think it's totally everybody carries

551
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: like a portable charger or this or that, Like it's

552
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of scary and I'm sure in the future they

553
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: might start regulating that, like you can't bring this on

554
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Speaker 1: here or whatever. But Gabe's always like, because we have

555
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Speaker 1: the dewault things for like the drill and the blower

556
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: outside and stuff, and you charge those batteries and I

557
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: always was just like, oh, I'll leave them. I want

558
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Speaker 1: to leave them plugged in overnight. So they're like ready

559
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: to go for me, and He's like, no, we don't

560
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: leave stuff like that plugged in overnight because that's the

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Speaker 3: Yes? Mother, So our.

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Speaker 2: First violent crime story is something you think you would

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Speaker 2: have heard seventy years ago, no problem, but guess what

631
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Speaker 2: problem today? A fourth grader was whipped with a belt

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Speaker 2: at his school in Florida.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that long ago because pop pop

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Speaker 1: certainly has stories about when he was a kid in

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Speaker 1: Catholic school in Philadelphia in the nineteen fifties and sixties.

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Speaker 3: That he was seventy years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I guess you're right, But he was.

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Speaker 1: He was hit with a roller, specifically multiple times, like painful,

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Speaker 1: fully hurt with one. But he would say when he

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Speaker 1: would go home from school, if he would his parents

641
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: would find out that the nuns hit him with a roller.

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Speaker 1: He would actually get in more trouble for embarrassing his family,

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Speaker 1: because that's what used to go down in a South

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Italian Catholic school for boys.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, So a church worker at this Florida parochial

646
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Speaker 2: school saw a student writing on a desk and decided

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Speaker 2: to whip the belt out and hit him. And even

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Speaker 2: though corporal punishment is legal in the state, the parents

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00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: are not okay with this, as you would assume most

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Speaker 2: parents would not be, and a couple parents have pulled

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Speaker 2: the school kids out of the school completely.

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Speaker 1: This so the kid's fourth graders, and I think that

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Speaker 1: one of the kids was writing on the desk, but

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Speaker 1: I think that multiple kids got hit with a belt,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. And it's actually funny to hear

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Speaker 1: that in Florida this is still legal, so it's for

657
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Speaker 1: kids in school, so it's surprising I guess that this

658
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: would be the first time that you would hear something.

659
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't really heard anything like this coming

660
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: out of Florida, and what used to be good is

661
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: not good anymore. I certainly would not be okay with

662
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: a teacher hitting my kid with a belt, although so

663
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: I always joke, like if I talk to some of

664
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the people at the school, if the kids are being

665
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: jerks or something, I'm like, feel free to hit my

666
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: kid with a ruler if they're out of line, like

667
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: as a joke.

668
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: But we'll think about it.

669
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: Pop up, that's almost eighty years old. That's a core

670
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: memory he has.

671
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, it is for sure.

672
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: So definitely there's some trauma behind it because he always

673
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: is talking about it.

674
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some serious trauma though, that

675
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: could happen in a school with this next case, this

676
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: is probably the most disturbing case of the week, I

677
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: would say so.

678
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: An elementary school custodian in New Jersey, of course, of course,

679
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: was tampering with students' food in multiple different ways, almost sexually.

680
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: He was putting bleach, he was peeing in bowls, and

681
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: he was taking videos of himself doing this and posting

682
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: them on the internet. So the school had gotten multiple

683
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: anonymous tips about the videos, and then they had an

684
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: investigator come in and look at all the footage and

685
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: compare the scenes, and it's definitely really disturbing. I don't

686
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: know if you've seen this, but he's also been now

687
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: charged with child pornography.

688
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: So what's up with this? First? Let's start off by

689
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: how the police got hip to this. There's some kind

690
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: of like a messaging. Is it a social media like?

691
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't understand what it is. It's a messaging that

692
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: looks like it's a little more encrypted. I don't know

693
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: why these types of things exist. Maybe they're for I'm

694
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: not that familiar with this particular app he was using,

695
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: but I don't understand. If it's for people running businesses

696
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: and they don't want people possibly finding their communication, I

697
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: don't really understand. But I always go to people using

698
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: that are using these types of apps or doing nefarious things.

699
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: So because of course, who really needs to Everybody has

700
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: privacy obviously, but who really needs to be sending things

701
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: in that type of a way other than people that

702
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: are typically up to bad things like putting your penis

703
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: between two slices of sandwich bread that you're getting ready

704
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: to feed third through fifth graders, which, by the way,

705
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: that's the age my kids go to school. So that

706
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: makes me feel better. I guess I'm happy that I

707
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: packed their launch every day now. But let me actually

708
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: read to you from the article the things that this

709
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: guy was doing because.

710
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: It's so disturbing. It said that the videos showed him

711
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: spraying bleach in large containers of cucumbers, spitting on utensils,

712
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: rubbing his genitals on utensils and food, and urinating in

713
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: a bowl. He also used multiple pieces of bread to

714
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: wipe his penisles and anus, as well as spit on

715
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: the bread before putting the bread back in the container

716
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: to be later served to children at the school. He

717
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: was also seen masturbating and urinating on pillows and kitchen balls.

718
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: It's so disgusting to think about. And he has worked

719
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: it in the school district since twenty nineteen.

720
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: So has he been doing it the whole time and

721
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: now has just been caught.

722
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: Well that's what they're trying to figure out. But regardless,

723
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: like even if he did it once and one kid,

724
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like, could you imagine right now we have

725
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: kids this age that are in school, Like if we

726
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: got a letter from the school saying that they could

727
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: have been exposed to this, I'd be so disturbed right now.

728
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you could have serious injury from

729
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: ingesting bleach, You could get erosions in your mouth, you

730
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: could even die from ingesting bleach and all of the

731
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: other stuff, the fluids, Like you could if someone wipes

732
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: their ass on a piece of bread that has fecal

733
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: bacteria on it, your kids are exposed to all different

734
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: kinds of illnesses through that. Viruses and bacteria pass through

735
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: fecal bacteria and also from semen with the with hepatitis

736
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: and HPV virus and stuff. I mean that could live

737
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: on something like a utensil for days to weeks. It's

738
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: just so it's so messed up, Like I don't even

739
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: know what the with the what they could do about it,

740
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: even if this guy he got charged with all this stuff,

741
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: but like you're not going to ever know if your

742
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: kid had it. And on top of that, like you

743
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: it's it's such a violation and it you know you

744
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier that we're reading that book in the

745
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: book club for the Gross Room about the Lady Poisoners,

746
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: And in the beginning of the book she talks about

747
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: how vulnerable people are every day by eating food that

748
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: that you didn't prepare yourself, and this is just an

749
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: example of that.

750
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it even it even boils down to

751
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: the ingredients you get can be contaminated. So unless you're

752
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: growing the crops, and I guess still that's evenulnerable too,

753
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: because somebody could come in the middle of the night

754
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: and tamper with that. It's just it's really scary to

755
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: just think these people exist in our world. And we

756
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: talk about this pretty often within the gross room too.

757
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Is that just a lot of times with these sexual crimes,

758
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: these people just go free. So I'm sure he'll go

759
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: to jail for two years for tampering with food and

760
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: having intercourse with inanimate objects and videotaping himself, and then

761
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: he'll just be right out in the public. Of course

762
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: he won't be able to work in the school again,

763
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: but I'm sure he'll be doing it at another job too.

764
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Gus wrong with this guy, Like he really should just

765
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: be in jail forever, because like, no one like this

766
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: needs to be around society.

767
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: If we talk about it all the time with rapists

768
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: and stuff too.

769
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: If you're doing it, you're that's your personality and you're

770
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: doing it. And we've interviewed a forensic psychologist in the

771
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: past that has discussed that putting certain people with these

772
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: behaviors in prison only can intensify it when they are

773
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: to get out. So it's just kind of one of

774
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: these things we have to work on and just make

775
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: sure these people aren't around society and especially around children.

776
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Well, this case, this next case is insane. So this

777
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: guy brings a two year old baby, not his baby,

778
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: one's cousin. It's oh, it's his cousin, okay, because I

779
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: knew he was babysitting this kid while the mom was

780
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: at work, brings a two year old baby to the

781
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: emergency room and tells that the emergency nurses and doctors

782
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: that there was a piece of glass in the baby's

783
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: diaper and it cut his peace. And as soon as

784
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: the nurse looked at it, she was like, this is

785
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: way too clean cut and precise, and it looks like

786
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: it was intentionally done, and actually said that she thought

787
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: it looked like someone was trying to give this baby

788
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: a circumcision.

789
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

790
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: And then basically so child services got involved because it

791
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: was suspicious, the police were involved, and it's just it's

792
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 2: really sad to think that you are putting trust into

793
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: a relative in particular, but especially somebody else, and that

794
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: they're trying to do this horrific act. Why would somebody

795
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: feel the need to put this into their own hands.

796
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.

797
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, well, now that you're saying it's

798
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: it's a relative, like, I wonder if he was he

799
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: was like mad and didn't agree with the mother's decision

800
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: not to get the kid a circumcision, so he thought

801
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: he would just do it himself or something like. I'm

802
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: not sure why.

803
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: And it seems like the grandparents of the toddler were

804
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: in the house as well when it was happening, and

805
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: they were sleeping when the incident occurred. So I'm really

806
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: curious if they were supposed to be responsible for watching

807
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: the kid and then they trusted I'm assuming this person

808
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: is their grandson, if it's a cousin or a sibling,

809
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: some other relative involved, So there had to be some

810
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: level of trust to leave the child with this person

811
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: and then this happens and it's horrible.

812
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when a kid gets circumcised, even in the

813
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: most sterile environments, there's always a risk. There's risk with

814
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: any kind of surgery, especially when you're when you're cutting

815
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: a knife and putting it through skin, there's risk of infection,

816
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: and if you get an infection on that very delicate area,

817
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: it could lead to scarring and it could lead to

818
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: like lifelong problems for this kid, and there's reports of

819
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: kids having to get like partial and full penis amputations

820
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: because of botched circumcisions. So it's not something that somebody

821
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: should be doing in the house. And I was I'm

822
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: just like wondering what he was thinking because he did it.

823
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: And then it's like, you did it, well, what did

824
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: you think was going to happen? Afterwards? The kid's bleeding

825
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: and stuff, and then you go and take the kid

826
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: to the hospital, like the whole thing is it is,

827
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: So it's so weird. It's just like such a weird story.

828
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: The shit that people do.

829
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: It's disturbing in general, because why is somebody that's not

830
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: the kid's parents interacting with their genitals at all beyond

831
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: wiping them if they're going to the bathroom.

832
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's OK.

833
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot there's a lot.

834
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: Deeper of a story but behind here that we need

835
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: to uncover. So he's been charged with aggravated assault on

836
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: the child. So it's really gross and we'll see I

837
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: guess there probably won't be public updates on this case,

838
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: but it is really disturbing to hear.

839
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: It's funny that We're always like, we hope we get

840
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: updated on this case, and then you never hear about

841
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: it again. It's just like this, you just get traumatized

842
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: by these stories and then it's like, uh, like whatever

843
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: happened to that kid? I mean, a two year old

844
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: is a big kid. Like you have to really like

845
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: lay down on top of them to get them to

846
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: stay still, to try to even do something like that,

847
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: which is.

848
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: It's so the whole thing is disturbing, but when you

849
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: really think about the breaking it down like that, it's

850
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: even worse. Yeah, all right, let's talk about some medical

851
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: news stories. So newborn syphilis cases are on the rise.

852
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to get into this?

853
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

854
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: So this this is actually really interesting. I'm kind of

855
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: really into syphilis as far as it's just from a

856
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: scientific person perspective. It's a cool kind of bacteria. The

857
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: way it works, it works very different than other ones.

858
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: But they were saying that in twenty twelve, there were

859
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty five reported cases of syphilis in

860
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: the United States, and now in twenty twenty two, which

861
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: is only ten years later, there's more than thirty seven

862
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: hundred cases reported. So clearly we're gonna say like, Okay,

863
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: there's a problem, Like something's happening. So what's happening? I

864
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: would personally say that it's because of COVID, even though

865
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: COVID itself has nothing to do with syphilis. It's because

866
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: of the lockdowns and them not doing any kind of

867
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: medical procedures doctor's appointments for such a long time that

868
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: it's now become you know, like a lot of those

869
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: weird things that were happening during the COVID lockdowns are

870
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: like still happening, Like they're still delivering a lot of

871
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: like groceries and just all those sorts of things that

872
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 1: like never really went away. I think it's the same

873
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: thing like people were used to not leaving their house

874
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot and not going to doctor's appointments and not

875
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: getting things checked out, and now you kind of have

876
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: to re educate the public all over again. On top

877
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: of that, it seems like it's happening more in like

878
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: black and brown communities, in areas where there's poverty and

879
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: people don't have things like a car to get to

880
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: doctor's appointments. And we're specifically talking about congenital syphilis because

881
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about babies that are being born with it.

882
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're pregnant, you should be going

883
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: to the doctor for multiple prenatal visits. Sometimes women aren't

884
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: doing that. They don't even have access to a bus,

885
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: they might not have health insurance. There's all different reasons

886
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: why this is happening, but I think that the majority

887
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: of it is probably due to COVID. And we actually

888
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: had a case in the gross room this week that

889
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: I presented of a guy who had a skin can

890
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: removed in when he was younger, and then like twenty

891
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: years later, this mass popped up again. And it so

892
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: happened to be when the lockdowns were happening, and when

893
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: he went to the hospital to get it checked out,

894
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: or he attempted to go to the doctor, they were like,

895
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: we're only doing emergency surgeries. We're not looking at this thing.

896
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: And it was like the size of a nickel on

897
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: his face, and he obviously like he had cancer before,

898
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: so he freaked out that he had this tumor growing

899
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: on his face and he tried to cut it out himself,

900
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: and it ended up getting so bad that it basically

901
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: encompassed his entire face over the course of the next

902
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: couple of months, to the point where it was bleeding

903
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: so bad, and he became a kneemic and everything, and

904
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: then he was able to go to the hospital to

905
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: get treatment because he lost so much blood, and then

906
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: he was considered an emergency patient. But you got to

907
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: see this tumor on this guy's face. It's like covering

908
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: his entire face. So there's a lot and then under

909
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: the comment section in the grosser room, there's a lot

910
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: of people saying how that happened to their mom, or

911
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: it happened to them that they didn't get treatment because

912
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't considered an emergency thing. All right, so let's

913
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: get into do you understand like the whole syphilis thing.

914
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: I no, I don't really understand. I'm unfamiliar with how

915
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: it works.

916
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: And okay, so I did a celebrity death dissection years

917
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: ago on al capone. If you guys are interested in

918
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: really getting into the weeds on syphilis, because I really

919
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: because that's was actually contributed to his cause of death

920
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: and I really get in depth article about it. But

921
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: basically what happens is it's it's a bacterial infection, which

922
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: which is a good thing because it's very easily treated

923
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: with penicillin. But the problem is is that you have

924
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: to go to the doctor to get treated for it.

925
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: When you have it's sexually transmitted, so you get you

926
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have sex, and then all of a sudden,

927
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: this wound called a shanker shows up, and it could

928
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: be in your mouth, or it could be on your labia,

929
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: or it could be on your penis whatever, and it's

930
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a nasty ulcer, but it's

931
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: painless and it doesn't hurt. And if you just don't

932
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: go to the doctor and don't get any treatment for it,

933
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: eventually it'll go away. So a lot of times the

934
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: fact that it's painless makes people not go to the

935
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: doctor because they look at it and they're like, what

936
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: is this. I think if most people saw it, they

937
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: would be like, and something's not right. But you know,

938
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: especially men with their genitals and stuff like, they don't.

939
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: They don't want to look at it. And then all

940
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden it goes away on its own. Well,

941
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: then a couple weeks later, a rash comes out on

942
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: your hands and you're the palms are your hands and

943
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: the soles of your feet, and that's called secondary syphilis. Again,

944
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: if you don't go to the doctor to get that

945
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: checked out, which it's very classic looking, like if you

946
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: add red spots on your hands and on your feet,

947
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: on the bottom of your feet, you would be like

948
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and went to the doctor, they would know instantly what

949
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: it was. Again, though this rash goes away. Then the

950
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: craziest part of syphilis, or the coolest part scientifically speaking,

951
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: is that anywhere from like a year after that secondary

952
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: syphilis all the way to like twenty years later, it

953
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: lays dormant and then it could like rear its ugly

954
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: head again and when it comes out as tertiary syphilis.

955
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Now it's it could kill you. It affects your aorta,

956
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: it could affect your eyes, it could go into your brain,

957
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: your bone, and that's actually what happened with al capone.

958
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: So it's very interesting that the way it works. But

959
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: you could also have something called congenital syphilis, which is

960
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: when a mom has syphilis and passes it to the baby,

961
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: and when the baby's born, the baby could have be

962
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: death and have eye issues. There's all sorts of issues

963
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: that could happen. The baby can get what's called Hutchinson's teeth,

964
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: which is like these very specific looking teeth with notches

965
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: in them. But even worse is that it could cause miscarriages,

966
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: still bursts, and infant deaths, which they were saying year

967
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: there was almost three hundred infant deaths and stillbirths because

968
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: of congenital syphilis, which is it just completely doesn't need

969
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: to happen. It's it's completely treatable with penicillin.

970
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: So is that why?

971
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: So? I feel like syphilis comes up a lot in

972
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: history books with especially the Founding Fathers and during the

973
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: Revolutionary War era. So is this a shocking number to you?

974
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: Because I feel like this hasn't been something that's been

975
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: coming up so often because it's treatable now considered treatable now.

976
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean back in the day, it just people

977
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: would die from syphilis and get all the sorts of

978
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: pathology because there wasn't antibiotics. But there is now, so

979
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: there's I mean, think about this. You're looking at twenty twelve,

980
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: there were three hundred and thirty five cases in the

981
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: entire United States, and now there's thirty seven hundred cases.

982
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: You could just see that the only reason that this

983
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: is happening is because people aren't getting treated. And like

984
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: if a guy doesn't get treated and gives it to

985
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: a woman then like she has it now too, and

986
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: then she has sex with a guy that doesn't have it,

987
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: now he has it too. Like it You see how

988
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: things spread, right, And it's just it has to be

989
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: because of COVID, because like nothing else has changed so

990
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: vastly that that would cause people not to go to

991
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: the doctor to get things treated. Basically, yeah, So.

992
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: Basically the short of it all is just if people

993
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: prior to the pandemic were presenting with symptoms, it would

994
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: easily be identified and they would be treated, and therefore

995
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: it would stop the spread. Whereas after many people weren't

996
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: going to normal doctor's appointments and things like that were

997
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: kind of being brushed to the side a little bit because.

998
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: There was a greater thing happening.

999
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: And this is two thousand. These are statistics for twenty

1000
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty two. And I mean you know that there was

1001
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: still like the televisits. I still do televisits with my

1002
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: family doctor sometimes. Like the thing is that if I

1003
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: have a giant shanker on my laie right going to

1004
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like stick it up to the screen

1005
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: and show the doctor. It's just like I'll be like, oh,

1006
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of irritated or whatever. But like

1007
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: they they that's why it's like important for the doctor

1008
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: to actually physically examine a patient. Yeah, and now I

1009
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: think now we're like getting back to normal. I feel

1010
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: like even when I go to children's hospital and stuff,

1011
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: it's like you don't have to wear a mask anymore.

1012
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: Everything's in person. You get like things are getting back

1013
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: to normal. So I'm hoping that this problem will kind

1014
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: of start taking care of itself. But a lot of

1015
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: it is just like a mentality of like of people

1016
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: like not going to the doctor and just in general.

1017
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: I think they were saying that like forty percent of

1018
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: these cases of these deaths, the mothers weren't even getting

1019
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: any prenatal care, which there's a lot of even if

1020
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: you don't have insurance or this or that, there's a

1021
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: lot of programs out there to help women because because

1022
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: we we recognize how important that is.

1023
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, I could see being if you're pregnant too, how

1024
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: it could be scary to some people to risk going

1025
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: out in public and to the doctor's office knowing they

1026
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: could potentially get sick or something, and not knowing if

1027
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: that could affect their baby and that could also lead

1028
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: to it, and just all these multiple factors over the

1029
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: last few years, and this totally uncertain and crazy time.

1030
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about one of my favorite subjects, which

1031
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: is foreign bodies. Okay, So a study came out that

1032
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, the ninth leeting cause of unintentional

1033
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: injuries was a foreign objects being found in bodies. So

1034
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: do you want me to read some of the most

1035
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: common items found? Okay, first, let's I guess we'll make

1036
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: our way down years. So one of them, which was crazy,

1037
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: was a cuff link, which how.

1038
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: Did that get?

1039
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: But I could I could see that because isn't it

1040
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: like a stick like someone might have like wanted to itch.

1041
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: This is how it happens. Like someone wanted to itch

1042
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: something in their ear and they like stuck it in

1043
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: to like loosen up wax or to itch, and then

1044
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: it got stuck inside there. That's what I think happened.

1045
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: So also in the ears was wet tissues, a plastic sword,

1046
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: an insect, a rock, a lollipop, a charger, a piece

1047
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: of an ice cream cone, a pushpin, pencil, erasers, and

1048
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: a battleship game piece.

1049
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: Well, you have to think though, that a lot of

1050
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: this is little kids, so take that.

1051
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to the adults later. The adult sections

1052
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: are always the best. And what about the nose, all right,

1053
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 2: nose gum wrappers, a used match, magnets, rice, candy hearts,

1054
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 2: yarn jewels, gummy worms, orange peels and led light flowers, cheese,

1055
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: popcorn kernels, and glue.

1056
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: All right, So let's get to what more than half

1057
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: of these emergency rooms visits are for, which is sex toys.

1058
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 3: Sex toye.

1059
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll start with male genitalia.

1060
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: So I've seen so much of this stuff in pathology

1061
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: because like, let me give you guys a brief introduction

1062
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: with this. But whenever you go to the emergency room

1063
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: and anything is taken off your body, whether it's a

1064
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: tumor a miscarriage, anything like that, if they, if they,

1065
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: if it gets removed in the emergency room, it goes

1066
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: to pathology for documentation. This includes like if your kid

1067
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: swallows a quarter, if you get a dildo stuck up

1068
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: your butt, it all goes to pathology. So I've seen

1069
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: my fair number, my fair share of these things, and

1070
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: so have my friends. So we have a lot of

1071
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: stories to tell, but continue with male genitals. So male genitalia,

1072
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: we have sex toys, which you would think would be

1073
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: the most obvious, and beads, and then we have paper clips, coins,

1074
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: a car key, a pencil, a nail, a ceiling fan chain,

1075
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: a cell phone charger, and then a wooden spoon. So

1076
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: there's something called urethral sounding when men get sexual satisfaction

1077
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: of sticking things up inside their urethra. So this is

1078
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: that's where the ceiling fan chain comes from and the

1079
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: pencil because they're able to jam it up there and

1080
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: apparently when they're having an orgasm and pull it out

1081
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like the best feeling ever.

1082
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: So that's why you'll see a lot of these like urethral.

1083
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: Foreign bodies, and what about women female genitalia coins, a screw,

1084
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: a pen, a drumstick, a flashlight, a drinking cup, a

1085
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: golf ball, a nail, polished.

1086
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: Bottle, and even a spatula.

1087
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: See, your vagina has sometimes been referred to as the

1088
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: vaginal vault in medicine, and that's because this thing is

1089
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: it's a vault. You can just store stuff up there.

1090
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: People can do really crazy things with their vaginas I've

1091
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: heard of these women that could like pull weights up

1092
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: at their vaginas, and like, was there a sex in

1093
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: the City episode where somebody blew something out with their vagina?

1094
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it was another show I was watching, but they

1095
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: blew candles out on a cake or something.

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00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I could probably do that. I

1097
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: don't need to know.

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00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: So ont rectums, okay, So rectal farm bodies are my favorite.

1099
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: And the reason that we get rectal figm bodies, which

1100
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: is I would say ninety nine point nine percent of

1101
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: the time from men because they have something that women

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: don't have, which is the prostate land. And the prostate

1103
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: land when it is rubbed at the same time as

1104
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: trying to have an organism, it's like it intensifies the orgasm.

1105
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: And once a guy feels that he forever is changed

1106
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: and he is always trying to achieve that feeling by sticking.

1107
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: And the only way to rub the prostate land is

1108
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: to reach it through the rectum, so guys will stick

1109
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: stuff up there in order to try to do this. Now,

1110
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: of course, they they make sex toys that you could

1111
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: order online that come in a white box discreetly to

1112
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: your home that are made for this purpose. But guys

1113
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: are still some guys are still weird about that, especially

1114
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: older guys that aren't into the whole ordering online thing.

1115
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: So you see it a lot of times in older men.

1116
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: You get these like rectal foreign bodies and seventy year

1117
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: old guys and stuff. But do you want to talk

1118
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: about some of the ones that you find that are

1119
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: not sex toys?

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: Not sex toys, a lot of household items, spoons, magnets, bottles, crayons, wrenches,

1121
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: action figures, a vegetable peeler which out and right handles,

1122
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: an ice cream cone, and last but not least, a

1123
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: fishing pole.

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00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's that's the problem too, because sometimes

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00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: I've seen such crazy things that guys stick these huge

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00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: items up there because they're just trying to get deeper

1127
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: and deeper up there, and like a fishing pole is

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00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: a pretty long thing, so you could and I'm sure

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00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: what happened was it probably perforated the bell and led

1130
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: to surgery, because that happens sometimes. But what happens is,

1131
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, when you have the feeling like

1132
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: you have to poop, right if you don't, if you

1133
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: don't go to the bathroom, because like let's say you're

1134
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: at Target, because it always seems to happen at Target, right,

1135
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: the bright white lights syndrome we call it. But yes,

1136
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: what happens is you don't you don't go, and then

1137
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like maybe twenty minutes later, ten

1138
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: minutes later, like the feeling kind of goes away. And

1139
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: that's because your rectum kind of like sucks it back

1140
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: up inside there. Well, if you stick a sex toy

1141
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: up there or something that doesn't have an end that

1142
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: you have a really good hold on, it sucks it

1143
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: up there and people can't get it out themselves. And

1144
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: that's why they have to go to the hospital. I mean,

1145
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's probably the most embarrassing thing in the

1146
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: world to have to go to the hospital to get

1147
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: something removed from your ass.

1148
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: But well, four thousand people a year nearly get things

1149
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: stuck up their victims.

1150
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I believe it. Trust I've seen it so many times.

1151
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, I've seen I've seen crazy things. Well,

1152
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: there was that whole TV show Clued Sex Sent Me

1153
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: to the er, remember, Yeah, it just wasn't done. I

1154
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: don't like the reenactment things like yeah, you know, but

1155
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: and then like obviously for privacy reasons and stuff, you

1156
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: can't really talk to them. I mean, nobody's going to

1157
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: go on camera and talk about the fact that they're

1158
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: in the er because they had something stuck up their ass,

1159
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: like so you kind of have to reenact it. But anyway,

1160
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: I love foreign bodies, do you know? So the the

1161
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: Motor Museum in Philly has a foreign body collection, and

1162
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: it's really cool because some of them are really really

1163
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: old and it's like a lot they have these like

1164
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: these old school like wooden drawers you can pull out

1165
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: that just have them all laid out a lot.

1166
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: Of maybe not anymore.

1167
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Well, don't talk about that. That place sucks, but let's

1168
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: talk about like the most the ones that are most

1169
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: applicable to me right now. And I think about that

1170
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: drawer every single time when I do my hair because

1171
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: I always put bobby pins in my mouth while I'm

1172
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: doing my hair. And I'm sure that that's how people

1173
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: swallow them by accident, because it's in your mouth because

1174
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: you're holding it right, and you would see that you

1175
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: saw a lot of like screws things like like I've

1176
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: done that too, like outside, like I was just doing something,

1177
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: screwing something in and I put the screw in my mouth,

1178
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is how it happens, and

1179
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: I just still I still keep.

1180
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: Doing it, especially with us because we're both kind of

1181
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 2: like kluts. So yeah, that would happen to me for sure.

1182
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: Earlier when we were earlier, when.

1183
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: We were setting up our lighting, I was trying to

1184
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: figure out how it was gonna spy maneuver under the

1185
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: cord of my light, and I still tripped it and

1186
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: knocked the entirety.

1187
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, That's why I have my legs tucked under

1188
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: my desk right now, because I'm like, I'm gonna dislodge

1189
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: something and the whole entire like setup is gonna fall down. Okay,

1190
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about the last story in medical news, which

1191
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: is this recall of Apple sauce pouches.

1192
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: So it's three brands of Apple sauce pouches have been recalled,

1193
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: which are Wanna, Banana, Schnucks, and Waste Brand. So do

1194
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: you want to talk about what's going on that's making

1195
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: them be recalled.

1196
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: So I guess there were four kids that got sick,

1197
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: went to the doctor, got some testing done, and they

1198
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: were found to have early symptoms of acute lead poisoning,

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: and that doesn't just happen like there's not like a

1200
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: normal amount of lead that should be in your blood.

1201
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: There should never be lead in your blood, and if

1202
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: you're doing everything right, you shouldn't have access to lead anymore.

1203
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: Because we know it used to be in paint. There's

1204
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: definitely like lots of different things that it could be in,

1205
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: but we try, especially in the United States, it's really regulated,

1206
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: so kids and adults should never really have access to

1207
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: lead because lead poisoning it's bad because what happens is

1208
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: with little kids, it could really affect their brain and

1209
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: their brain development, and it could cause like serious, like

1210
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: permanent disability as their brains are growing. The problem is

1211
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: is that you don't even know sometimes that they're being

1212
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: exposed to it, because you don't start to have symptoms

1213
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: of lead poisoning until you have like a large accumulation

1214
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: of it in your body, and once that accumulation's there,

1215
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: it's likely already done permanent damage. So these kids, we're

1216
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: having this this these symptoms which include like headache, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting,

1217
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: and their parents took to them to the doctors and

1218
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: they really couldn't figure out why, and luckily they just

1219
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: had really good doctors that like, somehow they all were

1220
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: able to contact. I guess it would be this CDC

1221
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: or some kind of epidemiology to be like, hey, like

1222
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: we have this kid. They're sick. We don't know what's

1223
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: wrong with them, but I guess you would see it

1224
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: in the blood work. You could see stippling on the cells,

1225
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: and god, I hope it wasn't to that point, but

1226
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that that's what happened. That they were like, Okay, shit,

1227
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: this kid is exposed a lead and we need to

1228
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: figure out why. And when they interviewed all four of

1229
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: these kids, they came up with the common factor that

1230
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: all four of these kids were eating these Apple sauce pouches.

1231
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: They don't really know how the lead is getting inside

1232
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: of the pouches, but they were able to voluntarily, like

1233
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: they told the companies, and the companies recalled all of

1234
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: them because just out of caution obviously, but yeah, like

1235
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: let's let us no joke. And the Apple sauce pouches, like,

1236
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: we we eat the the one brand, the green ones.

1237
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean I eat them almost every day.

1238
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: The kids eat I just like them and the kids

1239
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: eat them all the time. I always have cases of

1240
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: them because they're just like an easy snack on the go,

1241
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: and it's like better than eating other things because it's

1242
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: just apple sauce. Scary. In other death news, this week

1243
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: is our final story, Braids. Do you want to talk

1244
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: about what happened again in Florida? So this anthropologist just

1245
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: so happened to be shopping at an antique mall in

1246
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Fort Myers and came across a skull in the halloween

1247
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: section and was able to identify through his work that

1248
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: it was a human skull. So he contacted detectives who

1249
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: are looking into the case, and the store owners are

1250
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: saying that they purchased a storage unit a few years

1251
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: ago or a couple of years ago.

1252
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: And it had been in there.

1253
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think the detectives think it's anything suspicious,

1254
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: but it's definitely an interesting find that this just so

1255
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: happened to be this guy's job and he was able

1256
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: to detect it. I mean, you would be able to

1257
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: tell that, right, Listen.

1258
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: I think that this story is total bullshit and doesn't

1259
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: even need to exist. It's just like a circulating news

1260
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: story because you don't have to be some fancy smancy

1261
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: PhD anthropologist to be able to tell a human skull

1262
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: is a human skull. I mean, come on, any person could.

1263
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: I could give Lilian a human skull right now and

1264
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: put it in front of her and be like, what

1265
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: is this? I mean, come on, a child could identify

1266
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: that something was a real human school.

1267
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't think Lillian was a good example because she

1268
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: lives in La La Land. I'm I'm just saying like,

1269
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: it's just a non story to me. And I guess

1270
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: like in Florida, selling human remains isn't legal, and there's

1271
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: like eight states that it's not legal in, but around

1272
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: here I see human skulls for sale all the time

1273
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: in thrift stores. So to me, it's like, this is

1274
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: just a non story. The fact that it was four

1275
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,959
Speaker 2: thousand dollars is to me completely outrageous because I would

1276
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: never pay that much for a human skull. That's what

1277
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: do you find the value of a human remain to be?

1278
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: I just I just think four thousand dollars is not

1279
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: the going rate. That that person clearly did not look

1280
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: this up online and figure it out that they're writing

1281
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: in the story. How the owner of the antique store

1282
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I knew it was a human skull,

1283
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Like I put it for sale because I thought someone

1284
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: would want to buy it, like they're like they're a

1285
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: bad person or something. It's just like people sell medical

1286
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: skulls all the time, you see, Like you just see

1287
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: them all the time, especially like if you're like me

1288
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: and you like go into antique stores and stuff. So

1289
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: I just think it's a non story.

1290
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: And the fact that this like.

1291
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: Like, oh, like I'm just so important and I'm an

1292
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: anthropologist and I was able to determine that this was human,

1293
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: like get like, so could everybody else in the world.

1294
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: It's just you wouldn't be able to tell when and

1295
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: especially when you look at it, you can definitely tell

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Speaker 1: that it's not like one of those pretty painted white

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Speaker 1: ones that look like they could almost be plastic like it.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that the thing is real.

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Speaker 2: So how come I'm so determined that it wasn't suspicious

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,959
Speaker 2: that if they acquired a storage.

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Speaker 1: In and it was in there, how do they know

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01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: it was Well, it could have been. It could have

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: been like a medical schol or something they could tell

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Speaker 1: by the age of it. They I think they were

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: saying that it was like a possible Native American human remains. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know where they got it.

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't know where many of the people get it.

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like for the most part, it's like

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Speaker 1: you even see that with the state sales and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's like an old doctor that's eighty five years old

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: dies and they have this whole collection of like old

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have like a million like old microscopes,

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Speaker 1: old slides. They have things in their house and like

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Speaker 1: their wife is like, I don't want this, like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna sell it, right, So a lot as long as

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01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: it looks like it's like doesn't look like it's from

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Speaker 1: like a person that just was missing, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't see a problem with it. And I honestly

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: just don't even think it's a story. I just think

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: it's like they're trying to act like, oh this thank god,

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: this god came across this. It's just like if you

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: walked in that antique store, you would be like, like,

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: why would a plastic skull be sold for four thousand dollars?

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: Come on, like and it said it was a real

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: human skull. This is no murder mystery here, like it's

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: it's a non story to me.

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Speaker 3: Tell us how you're really.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's wrap it up with our question. So

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Speaker 3: we have three for you and one for me, which

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. So we'll get through yours first because

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: we could end it on a later note.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Number one, we have how does a pathologist relax rigor

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01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: mortis for further examinations? And what does that mean to

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: the lay person?

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,879
Speaker 1: So rigor mortis is when all of the muscles stiffen

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: after death. And what happens is is that the energy

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01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: is released from the cells when a person dies, and

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: it essentially makes all of the muscles in the body

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: flex as strong as they could. So if you flex

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: every single muscle in your body as hard as you can,

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01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: that's what happens to a dead body after death. And

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: when we get a body in the morgue, sometimes they're

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Speaker 1: still they still have like full rigor. So when you

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: open the body bag, like their arms will be like this,

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: and obviously, like if I need to cut the chest

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: or something like that, I have to move the arm

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: because it's in my way. So I will just grab

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01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: it and lean on it as hard as I can

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: and break the rigor it's not breaking the arm because

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01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: it's it's just muscle that you're unrelaxing, but you pull

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01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: it as hard as you can. It's like go up

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01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: to someone, go up to Ricky tonight and ask him

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: the flex as hard as he can and then pull

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: his arm down. That's what it's like. And once you

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: do that, it kind of releases it and that's it.

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01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt them because they're dead. So we just

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: have to do it sometimes because it's their body parts

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: are in our way of where we.

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: Need to cut.

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Speaker 2: Okay, next question, what is your favorite thing in the

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: moodor museum? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing, Well this is this is hard because

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Speaker 1: they have they have so many good things there that

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Speaker 1: you would never see working in a pathology lab. For example,

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: they have a skeleton of a person that I believe

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01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: it is gigantism and they're and then a person that

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01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: has achondroplasia. So there's these two standing next to each

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: other and it's just so cool to look at the

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: differences in the bones of how there could be so

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: much variation in humans is just amazing. They also have

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: a crazy one of the craziest things that they had

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01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: there is a genital wart necklace. So when we get

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01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: genital warts or anal warts at in pathology, they come

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: in a cup, but they look they vary in size,

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01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: but sometimes there's like twenty of them, and I just think,

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01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: like someone back in the day like got a needle

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: and thread and like put it through all of them

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01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: and made a necklace and hung it up in a jar.

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: So I thought that that was cool. Now, like some

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: people people would say that that's disrespectful or whatever, but like, honestly,

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: those genital warts were just going to go in the

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: trash and get incinerated, and now they're on display so

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: people could see like what anal warts general warts look like.

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think it's I think it's

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: a pretty cool tool for education.

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Your last question is why did you start the gross Room. Oh,

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: that's a good question. So I've been pretty open with

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: the with the problems that I've had on Instagram since

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: the time I started, which has been like almost ten

1394
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 2: years ago now, just my accounts getting deleted, my photos,

1395
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: videos getting deleted, and the censorship has just gotten even worse,

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: Like even though they leave my account up and they

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: don't delete my account, they delete pictures. One for example,

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01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: is like breast cancer. I can't talk about really breast

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: cancer because I can't show boobs on my Instagram, even though.

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: Like it's totally cool for other people and celebrities to

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: do it. But this one case I've showing this woman

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: was putting her hair up in a ponytail, and what

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: happened was she she lifted her arm up like this,

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: and then she saw that there was like a weird

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: divid under her breast. And when she saw that, she

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01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: went to the doctor and found out that she had

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: breast cancer actually, and that was the only way that

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: she saw it. And she sent me the picture of

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: it to show me what it looked like. And I

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01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: thought like, hey, I'm gonna post this on Instagram because

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01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: this is like really important for people to learn about

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: their bodies, especially like young women. It might just not

1413
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: present you always hear like do breast exams, you're gonna

1414
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: feel this tumor, but like it can present in lots

1415
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: of different ways. And it was definitely like this PSA

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: post and it got deleted, My account got shadowed. Band

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 1: it just was like your accounts a threat of getting deleted,

1418
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: and I'm just like I was tired of it, so

1419
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: I started my own website. This way, I don't have

1420
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: limitations with Instagram as far, because like on Instagram, I

1421
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: can't show penis pathology, I can't show breast pathology, vaginal

1422
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: vulva pathology, which is like huge body parts and organ

1423
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: systems that you're just completely ignoring. And so that was

1424
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: one thing Instagram. I'm limited what I could write by

1425
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: characters per post and I and now in the grocerroom,

1426
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: I could write articles that are like so long and

1427
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: really overly explain things if I want to, Like sometimes

1428
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: I make shorter ones, but sometimes I want to further

1429
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: explain things. And the whole community of Instagram has just

1430
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: gotten weird. It's gotten very like aggressive and trolls, and

1431
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: now I feel like the grosser room. It was like

1432
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to make a place that people just like

1433
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be there and wanted to learn and didn't

1434
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: want to just like write stupid comments under everything, like

1435
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: they actually wanted to learn about it. So and I

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: just I just thought like if I had my own thing,

1437
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, I put a lot of energy and effort

1438
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: into Instagram. And only I've had it happen to me

1439
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: several times, Like when they delete my account, it's like

1440
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: they're deleting all of my hard work and I just

1441
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: don't even have access or ownership of it. And I

1442
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 1: still keep the Instagram account, and I still do post

1443
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: Mystery Diagnosis every week, and occasionally I do other posts,

1444
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: but I always post them in the Gross Room too,

1445
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: so now they're like mine and I own them. And

1446
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: it's because it's my work and I take a lot

1447
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: of time doing it, and the website ended up just

1448
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: it ends up being so much work that like that's

1449
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: why I have to charge membership for it, because it's

1450
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: it's time that it takes me to write. But also

1451
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: like I have to pay people to keep the membership

1452
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: going just because of the members and things like that.

1453
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: So I hope that answers your question. And wait, let's

1454
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: tell them that the Gross Room is on sale right now.

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, twenty dollars for one year membership. It is

1456
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: an awesome deal. It's normally fifty five, so thirty five dollars, and.

1457
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: I think I think it ends up being like a

1458
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: nickel a day or a little over a nickel a day,

1459
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: and it's just if you're if you're into this kind

1460
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: of stuff. A lot of these cases that we talk about,

1461
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: we actually have like photos and videos to show of

1462
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: it as well and just further explained things. So I

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: just think it's I think it's like a really awesome website,

1464
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: and it's we put it on sale a couple of

1465
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: times a year, and right now it's on sale.

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01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a couple of thousand written blog posts

1467
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: in there which are really amazing, videos, everything, and then

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01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: there's about fifty five other audio recordings as well of

1469
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 2: back podcast episodes, so you can go to the very beginning,

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: which cut us a brake because it is hard, really

1471
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 2: hard meeting it's still horrible, but it's it is.

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to learn and get used to

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: all of the equipment, and especially I mean, you even

1474
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 1: went to art school, but you didn't ever, you didn't

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01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: learn any of this kind of stuff. So we're all

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01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: just like we're teaching each other like how to run

1477
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: the website and how to do these things that we

1478
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: didn't even go to school for.

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01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: No, we do this all ourselves. There's nobody else doing it.

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 3: It's so cut us the breath but.

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01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: You should say you do it all because I just

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01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of I sit here and deal with your craziness.

1483
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: But you you're the one that really does all of

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: the A v I.

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01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 3: Tech.

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01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: You're you're the tech nerd.

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 3: Yah all right. My question, which will.

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: Probably annoy you, which I'm extremely grateful for, is what

1489
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: is my unpopular opinion and my hot takes about the

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01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: real house Oh Jesus, So my unpopular opinion is that

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: I think Lisa Barlow is the best housewife we've ever

1492
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: had in all of the franchises. She's from Salt Lake City.

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01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: My hot take which probably the best. I just think

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 2: she's everything we want. She's rich, she's fashionable, she doesn't

1495
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: care what she says. She says totally out of touch things,

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01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: but she owns it. She doesn't try to be somebody

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: she's not. In my opinion, I know that's going to

1498
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 2: be a controversial statement. What is like?

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01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 3: Why is she there?

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: Like?

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: What's her claim to fame?

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: She's the queen of Sundance Baby, She's the main event

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 2: coordinator for Sundance Film Festival. She has a tequila company

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: with her husband. They're Mormon. They have a very interesting life.

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 2: Her sons going on a mission right now. That's a

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01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: huge storyline this year. So it's definitely I don't understand

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: how she's Mormon because she drinks and does all that

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Speaker 2: and they own an alcohol company. But I definitely think

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Speaker 2: and the roles in every RESI justification.

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Speaker 3: I think she's great.

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Speaker 2: I also love Jessel from the most recent New York

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 2: City of reboot. I know Michelle is going to be

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01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: screaming at me at the end of this episode because

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01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: she does not find that the same.

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 3: Way, but it is what it is. And then the

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Speaker 3: hot take, which probably isn't a hot take, is I

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01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: don't need to see any more nineteen.

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01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: Twenties parties, sound baths, or spiritual retreats. It is seemingly

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: every other episode on every franchise. I don't need to

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: watch your spiritual awakening. If you say something horrible, own

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: why you said it, and move on. Because every season

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01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: you have at least one housewife that goes incredibly insane.

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01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 3: It says something totally outrageous or rude or horrible to

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 3: another woman, and then the whole next season about how

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: she learned from that experience and how she's going to

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01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 3: be a better person. In the words of Lisa Renna

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: just own it. It's getting out of control.

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I've had I've had enough. I just fell

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: asleep while you were talking. I'm sorry, I just have

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01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: I just have no interest in that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're the one that got me into all of that, yeah,

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01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: because like it's just like everything it used to be

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01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: good and now it's not. It's just like over you know,

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01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, how could you top like

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01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: when Teresa flipped the table and then all that, Like,

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: it's just like it's it's not going to get topped

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: for me.

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: So I just like to leave it there where it is.

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 3: And that's I saw.

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01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,879
Speaker 2: Really, I did a special event I can't quite disclose

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01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: at this moment, but I saw a really cool piece

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: of art with Teresa yesterday.

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: So oh wow, check my Instagram next week. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: Well that's it for today. Thanks for joining us, and

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: another special thanks to Stinkboum for being our sponsor of

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Speaker 1: this episode.

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Speaker 3: We hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologists assistant. I have a

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Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

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Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and wealth being. Always remember

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Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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Speaker 3: Thanks