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Speaker 1: the first round of the NFL Draft is officially over

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Speaker 1: nine trades setter records a lot of wide receivers. Six

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Speaker 1: wide receivers taken in the first twenty picks. Let me

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Speaker 1: first talk about the Packers. It's almost like they're taunting

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So first twenty picks, six wide receivers. That's

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Speaker 1: a draft record, two major trades for wide receivers, and

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Speaker 1: the Packers take two defensive players with the twenty second

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Speaker 1: and the twenty eighth pick. Now, I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 1: bad defensive players, and they did have to let Zadarius

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Speaker 1: Smith go to the Vikings. But I just don't see

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Speaker 1: the juice with the green Bay Packers. I thought there

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Speaker 1: were five or six really nice wide receivers. I would

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Speaker 1: have taken those two picks, moved up and gotten a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. That's what I would have done. I think

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Speaker 1: the game is changing, That's why there's so many wide

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Speaker 1: receivers now moving around the league. You know, I thought

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Speaker 1: one of the best picks of the night was Tennessee

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Speaker 1: moving up to get Trey Burke's a big kind of

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Speaker 1: a Deebo Samuel clone at wide receiver. Green Bay could

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Speaker 1: have really used that. When Mark Murphy, president of the Packers,

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Speaker 1: about a month ago, said Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: three year contract, He's got three one year contracts, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Aaron rodgers career ends in Green Bay. I

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Speaker 1: think the Packers are frustrated fit to be tied with

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Speaker 1: his off seasons, his public unhappiness, some of his passive

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Speaker 1: aggressive comments, and once again they go on the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: That's not winning Super Bowls. Tampa and the Rams more firepower.

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Speaker 1: So I just I kind of looked at Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and I thought this was the draft to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: This was the draft to go get a playmaker. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on now, Randall Cobb and Sammy Watkins old and

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Speaker 1: older on Lazard Imari Rodgers last year. The slot receiver

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Speaker 1: slot receiver. They're just this is an organization that has

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Speaker 1: a way of doing business, and I think it's driving

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers crazy. And then Aaron's driving the Packers crazy.

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Speaker 1: There's no way he finishes this three year contract. You

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Speaker 1: know he's watching this draft rolling his eyes. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: it always feels like really well run businesses are lucky.

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Speaker 1: But you know, what do they say, luck is the

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Speaker 1: residue of hard work. The fact that the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: got the best safety easily in the draft, Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 1: the draft, Tyler linder Bomb from Iowa. That is an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable night for the Baltimore Ravens. Two starters, best players

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Speaker 1: at their position. This was supposedly a week draft with

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Speaker 1: But you know my takeaway is in terms of who

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Speaker 1: It's not surprising if you go back and look at

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Speaker 1: their history. They just I mean, they got Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: NFL MVP at quarterback and they got him near the end.

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Speaker 1: So I thought the Packers sort of shocked me by

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Speaker 1: going with two defensive players and the Ravens did the

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Speaker 1: best job. Now, something else you're seeing in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: think this is an important move by the Eagles. And

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Speaker 1: I liked it. And I've said this many times. Be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are aggressive right now. The Dodgers and the

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Speaker 1: were super aggressive this offseason. You can buy talent, do it.

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Speaker 1: If possible, So they have Jalen Hurts. The Eagles have

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Speaker 1: So the Eagles go out. They went and got Hassan

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Speaker 1: Now again, maybe he has to compensate for some really

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Speaker 1: I'll give the New York Jets credit. A sauce gardener

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Speaker 1: I thought was the best player I saw in college football.

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Speaker 1: we're going to figure out. You know, by Thanksgiving December,

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, the wide receiver from Alabama. He's the kid

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Speaker 1: So you start looking at Detroit. Now, okay, Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: just do that, He like he keeps the same energy,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he's he is who he is, and

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate that because you know, when people talk,

425
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: I listen, and when people behave a certain way when

426
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Speaker 1: they have success, I pay attention. When they behave a

427
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: certain way when they struggle, I pay attention to that.

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Speaker 1: So Draymond is one of the few people that I

429
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: can I can say I respect in all of those situations, right,

430
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: you know, his response and his reaction and all those situations.

431
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: And then even in person, when me and him happen

432
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: did like this, He'll step to me. I'll step to him.

433
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't got double text before. And then

434
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Speaker 1: after the game we're talking, you know, like nothing happened,

435
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: just like yeah, but he's being who he really is

436
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: and I'm being who I really am. So I think

437
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: because of that, you know, we've always gotten gotten along

438
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: really well. And from like the pre draft it combined

439
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: in Chicago, we are what was it U the rookie

440
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: rookie Transition program, Like me and Draymond, you know, we

441
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: connected over that, and you know, I remember him talking

442
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: about like, man, I'm gonna drop to the second round.

443
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm better than these dudes. And I was telling them like, bro,

444
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be all right, you know, so

445
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: like we've we've always connected like that. All right, Nick writes,

446
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: my buddy co host First Things First has a new podcast,

447
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: What's Right with Nick Wright? So I'll go back. I mean,

448
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: obviously I predicted totally with I said give me Brooklyn

449
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: and seven. And by the way, I couldn't. I meant

450
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Speaker 1: to reach out to you, Colin, because with a month

451
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: left in the regular season, you were with me. You

452
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: were like, they don't play defense, they're not well coached.

453
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: And then the last second you folded your beloved Clippers

454
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Speaker 1: and now your beloved Nets. They've all betrayed you. Over

455
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: the last few years of the NBA, these teams that

456
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: don't play together, of no history, of no continuity, of

457
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: no leadership, they flame out. Well, I like Tylu and

458
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: I loved how versatile they have, like six wing defenders

459
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: with the Clippers. I like their roster a lot. Yeah,

460
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: But then Paul George went bell yep on COVID and

461
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I give up by mount but to me,

462
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: and I was really hard on him the first day

463
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: it happened. And I'll go back to this, who you

464
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: decide to ride within life? Marriage friends. You know, you

465
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: go to Vegas with the wrong guy, you can end

466
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: up in the Gray Bar motel. Okay, you go with

467
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: the right guy that says, hey, Nick, slow down, get

468
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: off the table, let's go to bed. So Katie traded

469
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: in Steph for Kyrie. That's the foundation of all this.

470
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Speaker 1: And I said it at the time, No, no, no no.

471
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Speaker 1: This was not like buying a car and somebody screwed

472
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Speaker 1: around with the odometer. You knew the issues when you

473
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Speaker 1: went into the relationship. Like at some point Katie made

474
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Speaker 1: a horrible decision. Say what you want about Lebron. He's

475
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Speaker 1: made a career of really solid decisions. I'm gonna take

476
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Speaker 1: k Love over the kid, I'm gonna take Bosh and Wade.

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00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna he's made for Lebron. Finally, you know, made

478
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: made a disastrous one this year and advocating for Westbrook

479
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: and in submarining the whole year. So here's the thing.

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00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: I think it's you focused rightly on trading in Kyrie

481
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: or a step for Kyrie, but then also as a

482
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Speaker 1: part of it, he was trading in Steve Nash. I'm sorry,

483
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr for Steve Nash. They had Kenny Atkinson, Katie

484
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: and Kyrie didn't play, or Katie doesn't play that first

485
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: year Kyrie barely plays. And then if you listen to

486
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Speaker 1: any of the reporting, Kenny Atkinson, who was well respected,

487
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: well liked, he gets pushed out because they want Steve Nash.

488
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: If you remember then, Kyrie was like, well, we don't

489
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: really have a coach. I can be the coach. Katie

490
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: can be coach like and Steve Nash has been in

491
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: so far over his head, so he went from culture, depth, organization,

492
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: amazing teammate to Kyrie in a first time head coach

493
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Speaker 1: who has no idea what he's doing. Who the only

494
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: thing Steve Nash knows out who has played Katie forty

495
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Speaker 1: five minutes as the only buttony president is just don't

496
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: take Katy out because it's almost one of the buck

497
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Speaker 1: series last year, and and Katie kept colin have you

498
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: seen a superstar? Look this? Not we've seen superstars play poorly,

499
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: but look this unrecognizable to what he normally looks like

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00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: since Lebron in twenty eleven. Well, here's the thing. In

501
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: the history of Dynasty's college and pro there's never been

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Speaker 1: one without a Hall of Fame coach Wooden Saban, Pete Carroll,

503
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: at Usc, Chuck Noll, wal Popovic. There are no exceptions.

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: So two things working here. Boston is tremendous defensively, like

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Speaker 1: like next level intensity. Secondly tayed them over the last

506
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Speaker 1: couple of years. It's become a much better defender. He

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Speaker 1: has like like all guys that come into the league

508
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: at eighteen, like leaving Lebron's first couple of years, you're overwhelmed, right.

509
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: But the other thing is he gets no easy baskets.

510
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: The only thing that worries me about Tyree Hill leaving

511
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He gave them easy touchdowns, like easy ones right,

512
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: easy fifty yard games. They don't have to have twelve

513
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: play drives. Kevin Durant has not had an easy basket

514
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: in this series. Can you can you draw up one

515
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: fucking out of bounce play and just get him an

516
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: easy lay up? Can you do it? Like the game

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00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: two where he's over ten in the second half. We

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00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: looked at his shot chart, he and Kyrie shot chart

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Speaker 1: for the second half when they were one for seventeen

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00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Colin there's one shot inside the restricted area. One. Meanwhile,

521
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: every time the Celtics come out of the time out,

522
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: they get an open look. They don't always hit it,

523
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: but they get an open look. These guys are taking

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Speaker 1: the hardest shots in basketball, the contested mid rain shots,

525
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: and so it's they're not getting any easy looks. But

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Speaker 1: Katie also, I don't I know if you watched it.

527
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: I stayed up at to watch his postgame press Chester

528
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: and I give him a lot of credit, you know.

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00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he answered all the questions. He's very honest,

530
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: but he seems puzzled. He's like and he seems vulnerable.

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00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, I man, I'm thinking too much.

532
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I just need to go faster, like I was

533
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: trying not to be too aggressive, and then like he

534
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: stops and he's like, yeah, man, I'm just thinking too

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00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: damn much. And he I mean, he is flummixed by

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00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: what is happening. And nobody when he was nine for

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Speaker 1: twenty four in Game one, and we all like, I

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00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: picked the Celtics to win the series. And I said,

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Speaker 1: after we all on our show, and I'm sure you

540
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: said something similar as well. Katie won't be that bad again.

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Speaker 1: He was nice, that might be his best game of

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Speaker 1: the series. He said, he won't be that bad again.

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00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons if you picked the

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00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Nets after game one you felt good was that was

545
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: the bad Katie game and they almost won it through

546
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: three games. That's the best Katie game. It's bizarre and

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00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Kyrie for all of his you know, I like to

548
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: remind people because Kyrie is, as Chris Brussard says, your

549
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: favorite player's favorite player. And you know he's the most

550
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: skilled biz and the most gifted bat in all of it.

551
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving has played eleven years in this league. He

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00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: has never received a single first, second, third, fourth, or

553
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: fifth place MVP vote, never shown up on a ballot.

554
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: He has been first team NBA zero times. He has

555
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: been second team NBA one time. Why is that because

556
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: despite all of his individual brilliance, at times, there's no

557
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: consistency to it. And it's just a fact that Kyrie

558
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Irving has not had a single relevant postseason moment after

559
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: Round one since twenty seventeen. This last year with Lebron James.

560
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: That's a half decade, man, that that since before Jason

561
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: Tatum came into the league. Like, that's a great I

562
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: worked with somebody my first job in college. I got

563
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: a job in Vegas, and I worked with an anchor

564
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: person and she was a huge talent, as good as

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00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: any anchor I ever worked with. She showed up about

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00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: three days a week, and one of the things I

567
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: learned about that was that I ended up liking and

568
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I was better with her. She was so funny. She

569
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: eventually left the industry and did well for herself, But

570
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: it was something I learned, a lesson that I learned.

571
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I'd take a B plus that's there every day, that

572
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: an A that's there twice a week. And not only

573
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: is Kyrie not there physically, he's not always there emotionally.

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00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Like a lot of those stories in Boston that came

575
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: out after he left. He was blown up practice, he

576
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: was blown up locker rooms. And so you know, I

577
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: go back to Steph Curry is willing to come off

578
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: the bench the bent I mean, Russell Westbrook was deeply

579
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: offended when that was suggested. Iverson was offended by that.

580
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: So there's there's a self awareness thing, like we fall

581
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: in love with talent in life. But Lebron and A

582
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: D right now are a mess, Katie Kyrie are officially

583
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: a mess, and Paul George and Kauai. I'm sorry, one's

584
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: non verbal, one's not available. I mean, Paul George Covid

585
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: hide yourself for a month be an Olympic athlete. So

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00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you know it's I think sometimes in the NBA we

587
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: just fall in love with talent. When when Tyreek Hill

588
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: got traded from the Chiefs, I had a GM, say

589
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: five draft picks, Yeah, I would trade him too, he goes.

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00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, Brett Veachs knows what he's doing. They'll spend

591
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: money and get production out of that. So as much

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: as you and I love talent, we all realize the

593
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: ten best quarterbacks of all time maybe two Marino and

594
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Elway qualify as the best talent. There's a lot of

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00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: EQ and IQ and insistency. I am out on Kyrie.

596
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't listen, and so let me ask you this.

597
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: If you're the GM of the Nets, now keep in

598
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: mind you don't really have a lot of picks. Now

599
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you have some of Phillies picks, but most of your

600
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: picks are gone because the hardened to bacle. You don't know.

601
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: The Ben Simmons thing is now officially one of the

602
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: most puzzling events in my sports life. He missed the season,

603
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: he never got hurt, I'm not saying he didn't have

604
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: a back injury, but my point is the last basketball

605
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: game he played he was healthy. He never had a

606
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: full practice, and he missed the season with an injury.

607
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the wildest things ever. Kyrie Irving

608
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: as a player option column. If Kyrie Irving opts out, okay, yeah,

609
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: of course I want the five year, full max, five year,

610
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million dollars. Can you I don't

611
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: know what you do if you're the Nets. I don't

612
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: think you can just let him walk. Let him walk,

613
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: and it's just Kevin Durant and this Blake Grayman who's

614
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: a thousand. I don't know what the hell you do there?

615
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: But am I interested in giving Kyrie Irving five year

616
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: max money? I don't know what I do. So what

617
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: do you do? Honestly, what do you do if you're

618
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the next Well, here's the thing, Steven, let me just

619
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: say this real quick stephen A said on at half time.

620
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, I give him the fifty million,

621
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: but one year at a time. And I love Steve

622
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: and a master respect for him. Yeah that's great, but

623
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: he's not gonna take a one year deal. Offer you all.

624
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna offer to pay him in in in subway

625
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: coupons too. He ain't gonna take that either. Like he's

626
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: not taking a one year deal. So like that's not

627
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: the tenable option. If he says full max or I'm leaving,

628
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: what do you do? Let him go? I'll give an example. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I don't think he and

630
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Katie are a great fit. So here here's an example.

631
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: People think about three years ago, before the nagging injuries,

632
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: a D was the brittle one and Lebron was the

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Speaker 1: bull the seventy five games. Yeah, of course a D

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Speaker 1: now is a terrible fit for Lebron. So is Kawhi

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Speaker 1: Leonard the two worst fits in the league with him?

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Speaker 1: Needs now? Yeah, sure he needs. He needs seventy three

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Speaker 1: games and seriously, and a guy that can shoot. He

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Speaker 1: needs guys off the ball for seventy games. Now, three

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Speaker 1: years ago, Ady Lebron worked, so Simmons and KD is

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Speaker 1: actually perfect. You'd have to add other elements because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't shoot, he creates shots. He'll defend the best defensive

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Speaker 1: non center. He's a perfect fit. Kyrie's not so as

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Speaker 1: Kevin now is increasingly brittle. Let's say he gets sixty

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Speaker 1: eight games a year. Well, Kyrie is unpredictable and brittle

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Speaker 1: and emotionally brittle, and he takes shots, and he's never

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Speaker 1: been a he's never been a catalyst. He's a finisher.

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Speaker 1: So I think we look at him and go, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just perfect. No, it's two movie stars. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's really two guys that need the ball and don't

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Speaker 1: really elevate others. So to me, I would let him walk,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I know a lot of dudes want

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Speaker 1: to play with Kevin Durant. He's a good dude. Oh sure,

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Speaker 1: so I got them. You have to find by the

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Speaker 1: way you have your big Drummond, you'll find bench guys.

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Speaker 1: Simmons will be a good fit. You get what you

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Speaker 1: get out of him. You have draft picks. Go find

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys, Bradley Beale, find somebody, do something.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think Katie and Kyrie running work. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. It's well, it clearly they clearly, I mean

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Speaker 1: from basketball perspective, it clearly hasn't been what everyone said

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Speaker 1: it was going to be. And I also think that

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Speaker 1: Katie thing is there's just so many interesting levels to it,

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Speaker 1: as far as set the Kyrie part aside, Like why

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Speaker 1: did he take one shot in the fourth quarter? Yes,

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Speaker 1: on Saturday and it was a dunk with twenty seconds

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Speaker 1: Like why is he? What is happening here? And I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I posted a stat on Twitter that's true.

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Speaker 1: It's I guess, somewhat unfair, but attacurate. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say it till you get your reaction to it. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant's career playoff record thirty eight and ten, thirty eight

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Speaker 1: and ten with Golden State, fifty seven and forty nine

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Speaker 1: everywhere else. So with Golden STATEUM wins four out of

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Speaker 1: five games. Everywhere else he wins three out of five,

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Speaker 1: like rowins, you know, a little more than one out

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Speaker 1: of two. So it is a because Kadie, Here's what

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Speaker 1: I do know. I think that the folks, because there

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Speaker 1: are folks, a lot of folks that will argue, not

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Speaker 1: only is Kevin Durant the best player in the league,

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Speaker 1: but he has been the best player in the league

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Speaker 1: for like five years and people just don't want to

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Speaker 1: give him the respect. Well, this series hurts that, man,

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Speaker 1: It really really hurts that. It's the Nets were the

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Speaker 1: co favorites to win the conference and third favorites to

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Speaker 1: win the title not before the season ten days ago.

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Speaker 1: Ten days ago, Vegas was like, yeah, they're right neck

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Speaker 1: and neck with Milwaukee, and they're behind Phoenix to win

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Speaker 1: the title. They are this close to getting swept by

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Speaker 1: a Boston team. That is I listen, I think this

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Speaker 1: Boston is very, very good. But the reason people liked

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn in this series was well, they'll have the best

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Speaker 1: player on the court. They have not Jason Tatums in

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Speaker 1: the best player on the court. And I must, you

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Speaker 1: must give me the chance to say something here, because

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Speaker 1: you and your social media team really screwed me a

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Speaker 1: couple of podcasts ago. And you know what you guys did,

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Speaker 1: because I said, because everyone was like Jason Tatums top

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Speaker 1: five guys, top ten guy, and I'm like, listen, he's

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Speaker 1: a you know, he's the seventeen best player in the league,

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Speaker 1: and you were like, all right, named the sixteen guys

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Speaker 1: better than him. So I named the guys, the twelve

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Speaker 1: guys that were up to that point clearly better than him,

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Speaker 1: and then the guys that he was close with, like

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Speaker 1: Booker and Donovan and Trey I don't even know exact landing,

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Speaker 1: and then you guys made a whole goddamn production out

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Speaker 1: of it. He did a list, you did a graphic,

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Speaker 1: he did everything, and now he could sit to me

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Speaker 1: every time he has a big game. So let me

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Speaker 1: say this, I am very choosy and very conservative with

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Speaker 1: who I will call an NBA superstar because I think

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Speaker 1: at any given time you cannot have more than ten

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Speaker 1: of them. Jason Tatum is beating that door down right now.

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is like about ninety six hours away. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who he's kicking out a club superstar. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a Dame Lillard because he's been injured. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis already got kicked out to let John r Anton.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who he's kicking out, but TAM's what

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Speaker 1: Tatum is doing on both ends. This is how you

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Speaker 1: become a superstar. So I am giving him his due respect.

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Speaker 1: What he's doing to Durant defensively and what he's doing offensively,

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