1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson, and 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: this is the Drive. It's time for the fantasy football 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: focus here on the Drive, as we do at the 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: top of the five o'clock hour here on the show 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: every week or every day, I should say, and Matt, 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: you sent me this. These are fifteen bold predictions for 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: the fantasy that's interesting. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is from JJ Zachariasen. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's actually a Pittsburgh guy who went to pit 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: He now lives in Carolina. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: I know him a little bit. 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: He has his own site, Late Round Quarterback, and he 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 4: made his way back when he was the first one 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: to say, don't wait forever on quarterbacks, like he wrote 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 4: this really kind of famous fantasy article, that be the 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: last one in your league to do that. And he's 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: been the first one to say time to change. Don't 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: do that anymore. 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that. Yeah. So his fifteen bold predictions 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: for the fantasy season. I did look at these earlier 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: and if some of these some are pretty bold, some 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: were pretty bold. If they all happen, they all can't happens. 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: That's the thing that I came up with. I'm like, well, 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: that can't happen, and that if that happens, then that 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: can't happen. Anyways, he says, Tony Pollard, this number one, 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Tony Pollard will finish as this year's top fantasy football 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: running back. 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that's insanity. 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean, here's the problem. So I saw this stat 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: and he. 34 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: Backs these things up with stats and stuff. You know, 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: he's a pretty analytical guy. 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: So Pollard, I believe in his career this dating all 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: the way back to college, has like three career games 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: of more than fifteen carries. 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: I bet, because I'm trying to think who maybe Gibson 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: he was one of those. Pollard a Memphis guy. Yeah, 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: he was a Memphis guy running backs. 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's never been never been the every down 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: carry the football guy. And so he says, look, you know, 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott, he averaged he carried the ball sixteen times 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: per game. Every time. When he averaged that, he scored 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: thirty one point two, thirty three point seven, and twenty 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: one point eight PPR points. Well, Paulard has never done that. 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: He's never he's never averaged sixty Yeah, he's never averaged 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: sixteen carries per game. I love the player. I don't 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: know that he can finish number one because of high Yeah. 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: I think he's my running back five or six on 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: the list, you know, I mean, but I mean it's 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: behind Chubb. Yeah, Like I might take him over Barkley 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: or Jacobs or Taylor. 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: Because for him to finish number one, he has to 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: catch about one hundred and twenty. 57 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: Passes and find the end zone is going to be little, 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: that's going to be ten guys. Yeah, I like him. 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: Though number one. Avoid at all. No, I'm not avoiding him. 60 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: I just don't think he can finish his RB one one. 61 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: It's tough. 62 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: His second bold prediction Rashad White will outscore Travis ATN. 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: I'm kind of warming up to that one at N. 64 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I am avoid I don't think think it's because forshawb 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: White's good rights. 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: I mean, his whole argument when reading that one was 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 4: White is all about volume. He was a really good 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: receiver in college. Four Nette caught a lot of balls. 69 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: He's out of the equation. They should be losing. I 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: just am avoiding ADN. I'm not sure the I'm moving 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: White up. 72 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Number three. Both Deontay Johnson and George Pickens will finish 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: his top twenty four wide receivers. 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: I was a little shocked by that one. I don't 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: think it's crazy. You might want to read it because 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: I think some people. We really come on, man, why 77 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: this is bold? 78 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: According to Fantasy pros expert consensus rankings, Johnson is the 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: twenty eighth and Pickens is the thirty sixth wide receivers. 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: I will say I've done nothing to push Pickens up 81 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: since my initial rankings. 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Well if that happened, so really right now, they're both 83 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: basically playing out as wide receiver. 84 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Threes, okay for where they're getting drafted. 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: For where they're getting drafted at, I think they both 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: might outperform that you know to smar agree two. 87 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: But that's part of it. He writes in the paragraphs. 88 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: Why this will happen. We've seen on average four to 89 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: five team four to five team wide receiver pairings finish 90 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: in the top twenty four together in points per game 91 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: since twenty eleven. Clearly, the Bengals, Eagles, and Dolphins pass 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: catchers are candidates to get there this year. But what 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: about the Steelers. Historically middle round wide receivers who have 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: middle round wide receiver teammates and no early round wide 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: receiver teammates. Eight teammates end up exceeding average draft position 96 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: expectation at a strong rate. With Johnson and Pickens playing 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: two distinct roles and improved Steelers offense, it's very possible 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: they both get the wide receiver two status. 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. 100 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: I mean, he cited some teams you could also bring in, 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: like the Bocks, you know, have consistently at two highly ranked. 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: He's real nerdy about fantasy trends over the last five 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: years or so. Like, if your ADP is like two 104 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: wide receiver twos and there's nobody ahead of you, there's 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: no Chase Jefferson, blah blah blah. It just indicates that 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: both are good and both have a lot of opportunity. 107 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 4: I think Pickens might score a lot of touchdowns. My 108 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: only reservation here is Austin Robinson Washington Warren, Like, will 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: they both be on the field as much as last year? 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: I think so. 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know why they come off, but 112 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: you're going put five skill guys out there, and if 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: we I think. 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: Those those three in Friarmouth were on the field more 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: than anybody, more than anybody, and then you mix some 116 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: match the other guys. Harris is still going to get 117 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: the majority of the snaps. 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: Run running back, Yeah, running back, Yeah, only the one spot. 119 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: But the other guys are all going to have their turn. 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think that's crazy. 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: Number four Deshaun Watson will finish as a top three quarterback. 122 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's real into Watson. 123 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I just don't see it. 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: I keep dropping them. I have him behind Lawrence, I 125 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: have them behind Anthony Richardson. I might put Daniel Jones over. 126 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can go there with Richardson. 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 3: I was not a leap of faith. 128 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: I was not real pleased with what There's going to 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: be a lot of days where Anthony Richardson completes nine 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: out of twenty four passes for one hundred and seven yards. 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: I hope he runs ready yard. 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah right, hope is not a plan. 133 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I want to be in that quarterback neighborhood. 134 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's rough. Number five Jaden Reid will lead 135 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: to Packers and receptions during the second half of the season. 136 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: Kind of an odd one. I mean a lot of 137 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: parameters on that one. 138 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: He really putting some restrictions on there. 139 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: Strange little note though, is looking at this just for Packers. 140 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: Their opening schedule is really enticing. Now, maybe Aaron Jones 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: in when you trust to start in Week one, but 142 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: they have some real fantasy friendly matchups to start the year. 143 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: Number six, Sam Howell will finish as a top fifteen quarterback. 144 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that's bomber. That's extremely bold. 145 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: Though, that's extremely bold. He also takes so many hits. 146 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: But I like his receivers and he runs. It's kind 147 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: of what you need. 148 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: Is he gonna stay healthy? Though running like that in 149 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: the NF doesn't protect himself at all. Yeah, I mean 150 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: he ran one hundred and eighty three times for eight 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: hundred yards and eleven touchdowns his final year in North Carolina. 152 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: I guarantee you they don't want him running the ball 153 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty three times in Washington. 154 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: No, he doesn't protect himself in the preseason when I 155 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: wor Yeah, but I like the guys he's throwing too. 156 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: He's been one of my there's a couple of those dudes. Actually, 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: I like him, I like Piket and I like love 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: the guys who can get dark cheap As a number two. 159 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: Number seven bold prediction, Darren Waller will finish behind only 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey in tight end scoring. I don't think that 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: one's bolder that. 162 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that bold. 163 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm down on Andrews, but I'm really conflicted with 164 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: like kid O versus Waller versus Hawkinson. I mean, Hawk's 165 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: pretty strong, and Pitts is in that equation too. I 166 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: don't I might avoid them all. I don't know. We're 167 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: just take who's last. 168 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: Number eight, Ty Chandler will outscore Damian Harris. So why 169 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: this is bold? At the moment, Chandler's RB sixty seven 170 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: while Harris is RB forty one. 171 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: It's odd that he would compare those two. They have 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: nothing in common. 173 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: Ty Chandler is one of my favorite handcuffs in a 174 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: Jalen Moore in Lake Fashion. Yeah, I don't think Madison's 175 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: that good. I don't think so either, And has he 176 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: ever handled a huge workload? I mean it wouldn't shock me. 177 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: By week five, Chandler is the guy. Yeah, he's good. 178 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Number nine, Jamiir Gibbs will lead all running backs in receptions. 179 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: I don't think that's insanity. They're really hurting for pass 180 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: catchers right now, they are, And he was drafted for 181 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: a reason. 182 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think out catch Ekler and McCaffrey. 183 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: But I mean the problem, the problem with Jamiir Gibbs 184 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: is that David Montgomery also catches the ball well, real well. 185 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: And I think David Montgomery might outsnap Jamiir Gibbs. 186 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: Montgomery's been more and more of a target of mine too. Yeah, 187 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: because I think their offense will be good. No one's 188 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: gonna get the Jamal Williams. You're gonna score eighteen touchdowns. 189 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so he doesn't score eighteen touchdowns, but if he 190 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: gets ten, you might get ten. 191 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and catch thirty balls, forty balls. I think I'd 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: rather have Gibbs of Montgomery though, Yeah, I mean, but a. 193 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: But where they're yeah, where they're going in the in drafts, 194 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: you gotta take Jamior Gibbs. 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: He's riatting the nausey in. 196 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Like the twenty in the twenty five range where you 197 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: get Montgomery like sixty, Yes. 198 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I think he's like a six round or four round 199 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: or something like that. 200 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: I'll take that value all day long. 201 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: If you're loaded in Montgomery's your second running back, I 202 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: can live with that. 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: I'll take him easily. He's a great flex mm hmm. 204 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: I'll take that all day long. 205 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: But I could see Gibbs catching a lot of passes. 206 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: Number ten, Austin Ekelar will fail to finish as a 207 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: top five running back in points per game. 208 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: So it's funny I read that headline. I'm like, no, way, 209 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: he's the top three guy. But he actually makes a 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: pretty strong. 211 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: But very touchdown dependent yeh Is he gonna score eighteen touchdowns? Again? No? 212 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: And basically the crux of his argument is his target 213 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: share goes down dramatically when Williams and Allen are out there. Yeah, 214 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's just he was kind of the last 215 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: resort last year, and Allen and Williams are sort of 216 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: similar to like Pickens and Deontay. Yeah, Allen's the Deontay. Yeah, 217 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: Like he's the route runner almost every game he plays 218 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: that he's healthy, he's gonna lead that team at targets. 219 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: The fantasy community hasn't figured that out yet. 220 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: By the way, it's just crazy. 221 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: That's crazy career in. 222 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: A PPR in particular, Like he might not have eighty 223 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: R touchdowns, but Herbert loves. 224 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: Every game is six for eighty or eight for ninety 225 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, it's always he's he gets peppered 226 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: with targets. 227 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: And Herbert will always take these one boom boom, you. 228 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: Know number eleven, can he Pickett will outscore Aaron Rodgers. 229 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: I don't think that's bonkers. I mean, especially if Deontay 230 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: and Pickens are both that's. 231 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Kind of the point there. If they're both top twenty 232 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: four wide receivers, the arm must have done a pretty 233 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: goodme must have done a good job of getting them 234 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: getting in the football. 235 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: And I think he cites in there his rushing. I 236 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: think he was like the twelfth or thirteenth overall best 237 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: rushing Fantasy point and he didn't play the game. Yeah, 238 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: but if you look at it like per snap or 239 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: per game, he's like seventh or eight. 240 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: Well, here's what it says. He said. Why this is bold. 241 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: Pickett gets selected well after Rogers in most leagues. Absolutely, 242 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: why this will happen. There's no need to get into 243 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: the details of importance of rushing at quarterback in fantasy football. 244 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Anyone reading this likely understands that by now last season, 245 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: Pickens Pickett was eleventh in the league and fantasy points 246 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: per game earned rushing with three point two Aaron Rodgers 247 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: ranked below dead running Matt Ryan with a point nine 248 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: to one rate. He was less rushing points than Matt Ryan. 249 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: That's crazy, Yeah, take any more hits, right, Yeah, career 250 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: Rodgers is a better passer, but Pickett's entering year two 251 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: with an offense with better weapons than what Rogers is 252 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: surrounded with in New York. Don't ever underestimate the potential 253 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: sophomore year jump. And what if Rogers extends his poor 254 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: for his standards twenty twenty play twenty twenty two play 255 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty three. It's not something I'm projecting, but 256 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: it's still possible. It's not out landish aid this one 257 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: to think this one could happen, Especially again if you 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: think that those guys. 259 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: Are two receivers. 260 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, top not right, because are the Jets going to 261 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: have two top twenty four receivers. 262 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying I like this. 263 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: The Jets supporting cast better than the Steelers, I don't, 264 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: but I have no worries about the jet supporting cast. 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty good. Corey Davis. 266 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: Corey Davison helped me retiring that that. 267 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Lazard and Cobb and those guys are. 268 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Way more than you like. But pres Holgn, catch Cook 269 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: and catch Bresal didn't play football anytime, so I don't know. 270 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: Right number twelve, at least one rookie tight end will 271 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: finish as a top eight option in points per game, 272 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: not overall points points per game. 273 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: I've heard more of these analysts talking about the I 274 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: mean it was I'll never forget. I was in the 275 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: There was eleven of us back when I was at 276 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: ESPN that would go to the Fantasy Summit and would 277 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: all have a vote, and whenever we all voted, that's 278 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: how the the rankings came out. So you were on 279 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: your computer, that's all they all came out. And Eric 280 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: Ebron came out, Oh man, because I mean it's super 281 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: high pick. I mean as a rookie, I mean this 282 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: is we've never seen him play before, and the whole 283 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: rookie tight ends never ever ever, and they were right, 284 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: But lately it's starting the switch. 285 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Because they're just big wide receivers. 286 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: They're not being asked to do it. 287 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: They're not being asked to block. You're just being asked 288 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: to run out and be big and catch the football. 289 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: Like Kyle Pitts had a thousand yards as a rookie, 290 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: didn't score, but he wasn't blocking anybody. 291 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's running receiver outs. 292 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: So it's Dalonkin, Kaid, Sam Laporta, Luke Musgrave. Those are 293 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: the top three. 294 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: The buzz is crazy on Musgrave. 295 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 296 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: I was listening to an interview with one of their 297 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: Beat reporters and unsolicited, he's like, make sure you get 298 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: Musgrave on your fantasy team, okay, because they're all young. 299 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: So what you have to understand though about Beat writers, 300 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: of course, is that most of them don't play fantasy football. 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: No, I know nothing about Sam Laporter, Like I. 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: Know whenever I've done stuff with serious fantasy and they've 303 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: called me up and I start talking about ADP and 304 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: things that they're like, wow, you're beat rather than those 305 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: fantasy football like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because most of 306 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: them just well just yeah, this this fourth string running back, 307 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on him. He's never gonna play. No, 308 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: he has no fantasy relevance whatsoever. 309 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: Perfect example, Like the first headline of this was Pollard. Yeah, 310 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: we had a beat reporter on that does the Cowboys, 311 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,479 Speaker 4: and he's naming all these cowboy backs that basically. 312 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: No one's ever heard of. No, he's gonna have a role, 313 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: and he's gonna have a role. 314 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, they're not. 315 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: They're not Zeke in his prime, you know, Like, yeah, 316 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: they'll get some catches, but no, uh. 317 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: Number thirteen, sticking with the tight end theme here, Greg 318 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: Dulcic will outscore Evan Ingram. 319 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: I know he's down on Ingram. 320 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing with Evan Ingram. So if you 321 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: look at the Jaguars passing. 322 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: Game, Ridley hurts him. 323 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: Ridley I think, I think he steals the catches from 324 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Ingram like all that, because they're not going to not 325 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: throw the ball at Christian Kirk. 326 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: And from what I understand, the two receiver sets are 327 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: Zay and Ridley, Right, so then when Kirk comes in, 328 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: he's gonna get a lot. Yeah, and Ingram's also a 329 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: big receiver. Like it's pretty thin. 330 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know they're let's say Trevor Lawrence 331 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: throws six hundred passes this year, which is a pretty 332 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: decent number. 333 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: That's a big number. 334 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: So if Ridley gets one hundred and twenty five targets, 335 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: which isn't out you know, that's that's. 336 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: The number one. 337 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: He's a number one. 338 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: And then you. 339 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Also have to get Kirk one hundred targets, and you 340 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: have to get Jay Jones close to one hundred targets, 341 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: which isn't asking them. I mean, Firemouth had ninety plus 342 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: targets last year is the number three, you know, option 343 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: they started adding up real quickly and there's just not 344 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: as many balls to go around. Ingram had over one 345 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: hundred targets last year. He's not getting one hundred targets 346 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: this year. 347 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: They gave him money though, and he's hitting his prime 348 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: and it's a good offense. But Ridley's going to hurt 349 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: them all. I think I have Kirk a little low 350 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: than I should or than I would. I think say 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: Jones gets hurt, and I think Ingram gets hurt, but 352 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: maybe the pie got bigger. Dulsicge is is interesting though, because. 353 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: He's not even starting. 354 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: He's hardly even playing, you know, like this is a 355 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: projection that they're gonna figure Dulsage. 356 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: Playing behind the pitch on Stone guy, okay, and Troutman too. 357 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Troutman was a pitch on some guy who's 358 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: a guy I forget. 359 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: He's out of the league. Yeah, yeah, matters not representing 360 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: real well. 361 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, I don't know. 362 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean I like, I like Dulphe or over Dulsage. 363 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: I like Dulsice, but I would much rather I don't 364 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: want to deal with either of those guys. Is my 365 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: my tight end one. 366 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, though, I've flip flopped Friarmuth and Ingram 367 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: a hundred times. Right now I have friar Mouth above them. 368 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: It's truth gonna get a hundred targets. I think he'll 369 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: be close to it close. 370 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: I mean he had he had ninety plus targets last year. 371 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: He caught sixty balls. Is that his floor? 372 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: I think so probably. I mean, I think more touchdowns, 373 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: That's what I was just gonna say. 374 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: Did the touchdowns go back up to maybe the seven 375 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: that he had two years ago? Yeah? I think so. 376 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: I think that's logical. 377 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just keep going back to the Steelers that 378 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: Austin's gonna get targets, Robinson's gonna get targets. They did 379 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 4: Washington's gonna get a touchdown or two, you know, all 380 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you dry U pretty quick there. 381 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 2: But those they're not gonna throw eleven touchdowns like they 382 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: had last year. Either, They're gonna more than likely double 383 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: that number, and therefore everybody eats. You know, number fourteen, 384 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson will finish as a top seven quarterback. Oh, 385 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: based on legs. I mean, I just can't go there. 386 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: I see people drafting him as there like number one starter. 387 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: I can't take him as my number one starter. 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: I can have that it. I mean, you'll get him cheap. 389 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be loaded everywhere else. I'm not 390 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: going to take him in the sixth round. But I 391 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: have him ahead of Dak I have him ahead of Watson, 392 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: I have him ahead of Daniel Jones. I don't think 393 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: most people have that true. I haven't had a Rogers. 394 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: My problem with Anthony Richardson is I think he could 395 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: throw twenty plus interceptions this year. Oh yeah, So if 396 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: you play in a league that it really penalizes you 397 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: for that, or really penalizes you for pick sixes, He's 398 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: going to be less valued if they if you're penalized 399 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: for fumbles. Quarterbacks are running the. 400 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 3: Ball that much, penalty that definitely hurts him. 401 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the most quarterbacks are run the ball a lot, 402 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: tend the fumble a lot as well, because they're always 403 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: looking to Oh, I bet he. 404 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: Has seven or eight rushing touchdowns. Okay, we bet he has. 405 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: If that's the case. And I don't want Jonathan Taylor 406 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: if he says. 407 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: Side note, I think there's a deadline on him at 408 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: least tomorrow. Yeah it's cut down time. Yeah, maybe twenty 409 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: four hours, something happens with him. 410 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: But again, I think there's you know, is Anthony Richardson 411 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: ever going to throw for three hundred yards in a 412 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: game this year? I don't think so. He didn't have 413 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the weapons. 414 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: So where did fields end up per game? Wasn't he 415 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: like third or fourth? He didn't. They did never football period. 416 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: He was at such a ridiculous rate to compare for 417 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: anybody to fields. 418 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: If you remember, fields won't duplicate that. 419 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: On the ground. 420 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: There was like eighty yarders. 421 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 2: I can remember Mike Pursuda last year and Mike likes to, 422 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: you know, dabble in some things talking about how he 423 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: just kept hammering the just a field yards is over 424 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: rushing yards all seasonal because he just kept creeping up 425 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: and creeping up. Eventually, eventually he got to like eighty 426 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: yards a game. Is richards are going to average eighty 427 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: rushing yards a game in the NFL with no passing game, 428 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: Like he's the worst? Field Fields is a way better passer. 429 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: He is, he is, but he was throwing to nobody 430 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: last year. 431 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: Who's Richardson throwing? That's what I mean. 432 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: And Fields was a super high fantasy scorer. 433 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Because he was scoring sixty yard touchdowns all the time 434 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: like he was. 435 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: He was at a like a field record breaking, yeah, 436 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: a record breaking pace last year for a quarterback running 437 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: the football, Like he was putting one hundred yard games 438 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: week in and week out, and they were in the 439 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: first half he was doing that, and they were the 440 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: run obvious team in the league. 441 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: And he's breaking off seventy yard runs and you know, 442 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: I just don't know that you're gonna. 443 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: It's probably Field's best rushing year of his career without 444 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: a dumb just because the long ones won't keep it. 445 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: And I just don't know that to expect that out 446 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson, I don't think. I don't think he's 447 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: as good as a passer. I don't think their weapons 448 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: are very good. No, I like their best weapon is 449 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. Well, if he's running the ball, then Richardson can't. 450 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: And I just he's not an accurate passer. 451 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care, though. I really think the cheat code. 452 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: Is just have at a ten. You can go ahead 453 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: and start him. 454 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna get him late, and I'm gonna 455 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: back him up with two hours. 456 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: And you'll be starting that guy most weeks. I have 457 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: at a ten. 458 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: I mean, who's gonna out rush him? 459 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to five and twelve. He might, I think I 460 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: take him. 461 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: I think i'd take him over. 462 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: Even if he runs for a thousand yards. 463 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: Then he's a quarterback one is he? Yeah, he could 464 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: throw five in five touchdowns. I mean if he rushes 465 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 4: for one thousand yards, I mean he's on the field 466 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: seventeen games, he's going to complete some passes. 467 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: I just don't know that's going to be enough. 468 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean it's super unorthodox. It doesn't mean he's good 469 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: at football, But if he rushes. 470 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: For that many yards, he's gonna score a ton of 471 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: because they're gonna be games when he plays. You know, 472 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: if you look at their schedule, they get some tough. 473 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean they'll be losing a lot, Like they play 474 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: the Steelers Championship week. I know that for a fact, 475 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: I believe. I mean, is he going to run for 476 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: a bunch of yards against the Steelers who play Lamar 477 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: all the time? Is he going to take them by 478 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: surprising enough? Probably not? 479 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: But against Houston and you know, Jacksonville and Tennessee, I mean, it's. 480 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Fine, they don't play them every week. 481 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if he rushes for who, do you 482 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: think do you think he out rushes? 483 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks out rush him? I guess his way 484 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: to answer that question. 485 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: For the year, like, I think Lamar will be a 486 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: little down, and I think fields will be a little less. 487 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: They're the only ones I think are closed. I think 488 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: those are the top three rushing I just. 489 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: Think I think you can go too far the other 490 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: way to say you have to be able to throw 491 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: for something. If he averages one hundred passing yards per game, 492 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: he's worthless. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that might 493 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: be what he does. 494 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: It might be. I mean then that you would because 495 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: he is. 496 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: An extremely inaccurate. 497 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: Passer, right, But I just think they're going to throw, and. 498 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: I think at some point they may look at this. 499 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: He's not ready, So you're taking Watson over him to 500 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: probably Rogers Daniel Jones. 501 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: Again, I think it's I think it's much safer, and 502 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: I think it's you know, if I'm if I'm gambling, I'll. 503 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: It's JJ's case here. 504 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: Folks are hesitant to invest in rookie quarterbacks, and understandably 505 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: so that's the other thing to remember, Fields didn't do 506 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: what he did last year in his rookie season. 507 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 4: He was awful that Herbert's been like the only relevant 508 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: rookie quarterback. That's a very good argument. 509 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty eleven, among all rookie signal callers who 510 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: played at least eight games, just six were able to 511 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: finish in top twelve. 512 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: Now it's brutal, it's a huge that's a great example. 513 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: They were all running quarterbacks though. Those five were Deshaun Watson, 514 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: Cam Newton, Kyler, Murray, Josh Allen, Robert Griffin. 515 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: But we're going back far right. I mean, I don't 516 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 3: think that's a ring. 517 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: He's not as good a passer as any of those guys. No, no, 518 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: and he has worse weapons than most of those teams. 519 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: I just but he's an equal rusher at all those Okay, yeah. 520 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: Great, but he's not even close to being in their 521 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: level of passers. And I just remember all the sacks 522 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: that Fields took as a rookie. Oh it was brutal. 523 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was brutal. 524 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: He was an awful There's certainly a case too. Will 525 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: he last seventeen games? 526 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: Right? 527 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: I mean if he but there must be something in 528 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: that paragraph that's good for him because he has him saying. 529 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: Oh, he's just talking about the running. It's all about 530 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: the running, exactly right. 531 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 3: Fifteen on the argument for him, it's just I think 532 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: it's a strong one. 533 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: His fifteen is Zach Charbonney want to score Kenneth Walker. 534 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not betting on that. 535 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: I think I think he even says, hey, I'm not 536 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 4: betting on this, but I can tell he says something 537 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 4: on the lines of Charbonay does things Walker. 538 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: Doesn't, which is basically Ketch a ful catch foot. Yeah, 539 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: and he was a high pick for a reason for it. 540 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that was Jay Jay's zachar Reeson's his fifteen 541 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: bold predictions for the fantasy season. Some are pretty bold. 542 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: Two Steeler ones that If they they do happen, this 543 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: team's gonna be pretty good. 544 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: Really really good. 545 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they kind of go hand in hand, Yes, 546 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: they do. One won't have about the other problem. 547 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But we're gonna get to a break here. 548 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. That was 549 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: the Fantasy Football Focus. This is the drive. We'll be 550 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 551 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 552 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 553 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 554 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and 555 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And I'm Matt. 556 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm just looking here through some of the early cuts 557 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: and moves here that have been made around the league 558 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 2: thus far. 559 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Small trades, a couple of things, and yeah. 560 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: We'll just go through my team by team here, starting 561 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: with the AFC East. Here, the Buffalo Bills. Jase Sternberger, 562 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: the former Steeler gets like. 563 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: Lea act every one of these. There's gonna be a 564 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: time of names that aren't. 565 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking here at the Miami Dolphins, Kiki ku Te, 566 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: he already cut. 567 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: He's been around a little while. 568 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: They also had to Aubrey Miller was the linebacker liked 569 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: in the draft this year out of was it Jackson State? 570 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: Is he Jackson State? 571 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: Huy? Yeah, I think so interesting guy there. Okay, he 572 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: got cut. 573 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Jalen Twineman, the former Pitt guy Trace pick sorely 574 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: gets cut in New England. 575 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: So he is doesn't surprise me? 576 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not sticking with that. But they also, 577 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, made a couple of trades for offensive 578 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: lineman that doesn't bode well for them. 579 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: Like no, I thought they had a lot of linemen. 580 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 4: Maybe they didn't have great ones, but they have a 581 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: lot of linemen. 582 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 583 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: That whole offense to me is troubling. There's no star power. 584 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 4: Who's their best offensive player? I mean for Andre Stevenson, 585 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: but that's probably a position you don't want to be 586 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 4: the best. 587 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, not not great. The air for the Arizona Cardinals. Actually, McCoy, 588 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: they did cut Colt McCoy. We talked about that. I 589 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: can't remember if we did that on the air. Off 590 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: the air, the Dobbs trade, the Dobbs trade. McCoy was 591 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: making some money there, and I have to believe they 592 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 2: felt like, hey, we can get him back if we 593 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: want him. 594 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: I was thinking that too. 595 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: Who's else is going to sign Colt McCoy. 596 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: They traded Jones, they traded Simmons. Maybe there's even more 597 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: names that are going to go off that one. 598 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: And so they're they're going to run a system that 599 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: is closer to what they ran in Cleveland, right, And 600 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: so Dobbs played in Cleveland. Obviously he knows the system, 601 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: so there's some familiarity there. He just doesn't know the 602 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: personnel as well. 603 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: But a big thing I think they want to do, 604 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 4: and this isn't a knock on Colt McCoy. I just 605 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: think they want to get a lot of the losers 606 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 4: out of the building. I'm not saying he's a loser. 607 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: The people who have been around this organization, I mean 608 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: even their hires. 609 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: Have always can they fire the owner? 610 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: I just say they want to facelift the whole thing. 611 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: So if like Dobbs and McCoy are a tie, I 612 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 4: went the new guy. I mean, I just don't want 613 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: any of the old stink around here. Those Dobbs will 614 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: be good for Murray or maybe even Caleb Williams over there. 615 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: He's a super smart guy. 616 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Speaking of Kyler Murray, he will remain on the reserve 617 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: pup list begin the season as he continues to recover. 618 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 2: That means he must miss at least the first four 619 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: games of the season. One the puplist he's probably gonna 620 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: miss more than that. 621 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no shock though. 622 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah he's not on not done for the year, but 623 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 4: we'll see where they're at when he's actually healthy. 624 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: They also placed offensive lineman pat eflin Elflin on injured reserve. 625 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: He's kicked around the. 626 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: League a little the gain he's played a little bit. 627 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Take and then as cornerback Garrett Williams, who was the 628 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Syracuse kid he was with the injury, he will start 629 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: with the start the season on a non football injury list. 630 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: I think they kind of knew that when they drafted him, 631 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: but I mean the roll of dice. 632 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he got him cheap on draft day for them 633 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: though they're not winning anything this year anyway, Yeah, you 634 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 4: can forget okay, bring them along in the second half of 635 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: the season. 636 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: Looking at the Ravens, quarterback Tyler Huntley with the hamstring 637 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: injuries not expected to be placed on injury reserve, which 638 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: means we have to carry him into the regular season 639 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: on their on their fifty three man roster. I'm not 640 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: sure if he's even the two right Josh Sjahnson seemed 641 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: to be bad for that. Uh. Tight End Mark Andrews 642 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: is expected to be ready to play in the season opener, 643 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: So we'll see about that. 644 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: Here's four or five of these injuries, like McLaurin and 645 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: that are questionable for Week one. 646 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: Uh. The Browns made a trade for a kicker, that 647 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: being Dustin Hopkins. Who was that with Again, that was 648 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: with the Chargers. Nobody has ever traded for a Chargers kicker. 649 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: Happy with it, but they used a high pick on 650 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: a kicker recently. Kay York was the kicker they they 651 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: released him. U he was like a fourth rounder last year. 652 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was early, he was taken. 653 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was you know, he just wasn't good. 654 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't good. Kicker problems. 655 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins' career kicking percentage eighty four percent. Not great, right, 656 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: that's fine, actually kind of below average by today's standards. 657 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: And again, you know, yes, he kicked a long time 658 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: in Washington, which is kind of the northeast, but not Cleveland. Cleveland, Yeah, 659 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: not quite Cleveland. 660 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: Especially where their stadium is on the lake. 661 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: Right on the lake. Yeah, it's a different it's a different, 662 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: different animal kicking up there. 663 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: If they get eighty four field goal percentage out of 664 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: whoever their kickers are this year, they should take it. 665 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: Uh. They also released Michael Dunn, who the offensive lineman 666 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: who started some games for them. 667 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I think they're happy with Jones, the giant 668 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: kid out of Ohio State and Whippler. I know that 669 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: they're really happy with the center. So they drafted to 670 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: Ohio State linemen that they're pretty confident in. 671 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 672 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Hendon hooker for the Lions, will begin the season on 673 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: the n f I list. He's kind of the same 674 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: thing as what he practice. I don't think he has. 675 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can if he's on. 676 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: If you can't go on the NFI list if you practice. 677 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: This was kind of they knew that. Yeah, they knew 678 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: that when they drafted him. Looks like Nate Sudfeld also. 679 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: Tore an a c L for them Bridgewaters. 680 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: The Bridgewater is to back up there. 681 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: He might play. 682 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Packers cut punter Pad O'Donnell. 683 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: He was their guy. 684 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's some teams out there that were you 685 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: know when you wonder why the Steelers holding on to Man, Well, 686 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: this is kind of why, Like you know, you just 687 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: don't know. The Houston Texans released linebacker Christian Kirksey an 688 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: the league too. Yeah, he'll be playing. He'll play. 689 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: I assume he's a decent enough special team guy to 690 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: get picked up. 691 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: So yeah. Interesting. Uh. The Colts released wide receiver Brishard Perryman. 692 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be on the road for him. 693 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Former first round. 694 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: Draft pick, but always a speed guy. But one trick pony. 695 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: For the Jaguars, offensive tackle Tyler Shatley, who had been 696 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: on blood thinners for an a f ib issue. I 697 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: don't know what that means. Could be ready to go 698 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: in Week one. 699 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: Okay, he's a depth guy though. 700 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then linebacker Ventrel Miller, who was their fourth 701 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: round draft pick this year and was slated to start 702 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: as a rookie. He tore his achilles. He is out 703 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: for the year. He's going to start for them, He 704 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: was going to start. Yeah, I mean they drafted Lloyd 705 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: last year. They have a couple of dudes. But all right, 706 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you hate to have a mid round pick 707 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: lost for the year. Yeah, tough to come back. 708 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: The next year. 709 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 2: Looks like for the Chargers. Wide receiver Jalen Geiton tours 710 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: ACL last September. He'll begin the season on the reserve 711 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: pup list. 712 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: He was probably fifth on the depth chart now. But 713 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: he's like their speed guy. Yeah, he's their downfield home 714 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: run dude. 715 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. With Dustin Hopkins getting traded by the Chargers, Cameron 716 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: Dicker the kicker will be their guy. Nice sticking with 717 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: Dicker the kicker. 718 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: That's a nice place to kick if you're talking about weather. 719 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Absolutely mentioned Kiki q earlier for the Vikings. 720 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: They traded and mentioned this as well. Verderian Lowe to 721 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: the Patriots in exchange for a sixth round pick. He 722 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: was a sixth round pick in twenty twenty two offensive lineman. 723 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: He's the offensive linemans. They also made a trade with 724 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: the Browns to get another offensive tackle, so two offensive 725 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: tackles that they added. 726 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: Imagine that, You imagine what we'll be talking abot right 727 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: now with the Steels trade for two offensive tackles. 728 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: Like two days before the Yeah, that's a bad sign. 729 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: It's a really bad sign. Mentioned they released. The Patriots 730 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: released Trace mcsworley. They also released Cordless weightman, the former 731 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Steelers guy at the end of the road for him 732 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: to the Giants. Tight End Chris Myrek was placed on 733 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: season ending injured reserve. They also cut Wyatt Davis. 734 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh he's been around a little bit. 735 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of surprised by that one. 736 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, this early. Maybe he hopes on somewhere. 737 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets, we talked about this one a couple 738 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Donovan bam Knight was released. 739 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: He was like, a, yeah, I bet he gets picked up. 740 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: I would think so. 741 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean team like Dallas or somebody should grab him. 742 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: Ind They also released wide receiver Alex Erickson, a good 743 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: return guy. 744 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah's return I can run. He was a Bengal for 745 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: a yeah. 746 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: And Trey Dean, the safety who was kind of liked 747 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: him a little bit in the draft. He was a big, 748 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: strong safety out of Florida, I believe, or Florida State, 749 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: remember which kind of in the box type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh. 750 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: They also placed a cornerback, Jimmy Moreland on injury reserve. 751 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: So his season is done. He's been around the. 752 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: Legal, had a lot of injuries and stuff. They also 753 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: named Mackai Beckton the starting right tackle. 754 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 755 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: That's set and stone at least, But they had a 756 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: lot of things up in the air on that team. 757 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: They sure do. Uh Hassan Reddick with the Eagles, remains 758 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: confident he'll be ready for a week one after undergoing 759 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: surgery for a torn ligament in his right thumb. He said, 760 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 2: it's a thumb. Wrap it up, go back out there 761 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: and play. That all sounds well and good. Yea in theory, 762 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: I know from you know, having like my right thought 763 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: might have no ligaments in it. I can just I 764 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: can remember when I did that. 765 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to play football. 766 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: I would not I finish finish my senior year in 767 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: high school with that, And it affected your shooting and 768 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: affected how you look at everything that's your shooting thumb 769 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: and yeah, and even now at this point where you know, 770 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: if I'm doing something that thumb will catch on something 771 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: and pull back because there's no no ligaments in there. 772 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 2: Again hurts. It hurts big time. 773 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. And if keeps fighting offensive tackles. 774 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not wrestling with three hundred pounders. 775 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: So I wonder if you would like club it up. Yeah. 776 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: You don't see people who do the club thing anymore because. 777 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're allowed to play with that 778 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: as much. Maybe you can't. Yeah, you can't do what 779 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: you need to do now against today's Like if you 780 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: play one handed, which is essentially what you'd be doing against. 781 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: An offensive tackle, you're going to get killed. It might 782 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: be a big deal for him. 783 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: They signed cornerback Isaiah Rogers and then placed him on 784 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: the reserve suspended list. He was suspended by the league 785 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty three season for violating the NFL 786 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: Gambling The gambling guys, right, so they went out, they 787 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: signed a guy who's suspended for the year. Yeah, but 788 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: that's kind of shrewd. 789 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like is it. 790 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: He was sort of in the mix of start. I mean, 791 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: they're kind of gambling here with him, aren't they gambling? 792 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: Nicely done? 793 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: Because he counts against your salary cap. 794 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I don't think he's expensive though, I mean 795 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 4: maybe he got one cheap. 796 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 797 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: Maybe he's not gonna play all year, not gonna play 798 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: all year, and you're gonna take that hit. And maybe 799 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't get ever reinstated. 800 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 3: No, he might not, or he does something else, don't. 801 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, Jackson Smith and Jigba for the Seahawks. Of course, 802 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: one underwent surgery to repair that small broken bone in 803 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: his wrist, expected to begin the season on the active roster, 804 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 2: So they're not gonna put. 805 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: Him on the yeah thing, I guess. 806 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 2: It also means I'm assuming that means they're not gonna 807 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: obviously they're not gonna put him on on on injured 808 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: reserve now, but you're gonna carry him into week one probably. 809 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: I assume that also means that he's not going to 810 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: get placed on the injured reserve them, which means he 811 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: doesn't miss the first four weeks, but he's probably not 812 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: playing week one. 813 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: I think that's exactly who we'll go. Yeah, he'll be 814 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: week to week. 815 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: Sometime sometime in September, he probably comes back. But at 816 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: what points you're guessing. 817 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one. I think he was gonna 818 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: play a lot for them. 819 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: For the Titans, Hasan Haskins has been placed on injured reserve, 820 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: So take him off of your. 821 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: So spears I think is the two slash change of page. 822 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: Haskins had been to two. 823 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in the mixes the Banger. If Henry 824 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: go down. 825 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of a big deal. Treylon Burk's returned 826 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: to practice and took part in individual drills for the 827 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: first time to sustaining a knee injury August sixteenth. 828 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: They need them. 829 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's a couple of weeks ago. 830 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: They also activated Dylan Reddin's off the physically unable to 831 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: perform lists. 832 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: So he's been bad since he's been the league. They 833 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: need every off. 834 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talked about team and needs offensive line bay 835 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: uh and Jared Patterson, the running back released by the 836 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: Commanders on Yeah, that doesn't be part of their cuts there, So. 837 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: You didn't mention one. It was on the list there. 838 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: But Ryan Jensen for Tampa. 839 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that happened over the weekend. Uh, Like 840 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: he has done. 841 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: I bet he's done forever. Now, this is two years 842 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 4: in a row that one of the better centers in 843 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: the league. But he's up in age, is going to 844 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 4: miss the whole year. 845 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people in Pittsburgh who were pushing, Hey, 846 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers need to sign him last year because he 847 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 2: was a free agent last year. I remember he was 848 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: expensive and then they gave him. He gave him money. 849 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a foundational leader. Brady loved them tough guy. 850 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 4: Ravens loved them. Their offensive line is going to be 851 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 4: a mess. 852 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 3: To be bad. I mean, their best guy. They're making 853 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: them switch sides too, and. 854 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: He's if I think we talked about it in training 855 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: camp where he was meeting with a sports psychologist to 856 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: deal with the move from right tackle to left. That 857 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: doesn't sound great, No, it doesn't. That doesn't give me. 858 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: That doesn't give me a lot of confidence. 859 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 4: I think that team is really in for rough year, 860 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: especially on that side of the ball. Their quarterback situation. 861 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just think that's going to be an 862 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: issue for them. 863 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: But I bet we see some small trades and stuff though, 864 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 3: in the next twenty four. 865 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: I would think so. I mean, we've already started to 866 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: see that. Obviously the Steelers made a trade, but we've 867 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: started to see that the Patriots have made a couple. 868 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 2: You see that the trade for kickers again, That's why 869 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: the Steelers are holding on the man right now in 870 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: case somebody a you might need an upgrade, you might 871 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: need an upgrade at U punter. 872 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor could move. I mean there's a lot of. 873 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: You swap a six round picks with somebody that you 874 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: think is going to be bad. 875 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 4: It's better than cutting them, yeah, or seventh two years 876 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 4: from now, right whatever, you can. 877 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: Get that move. R like, you just don't want to 878 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: give guys away. 879 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 4: I like where they're at with draft picks though right 880 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: now after the Rams move, they didn't make any of 881 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: these like Witherspoon, Malik Reid. 882 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't say the expert move. 883 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: You're adding, you're adding instead of subtracting. And you're also 884 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: I think that's important because and they know this, you're 885 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 2: not going to get comp picks because you've signed someone 886 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: guys in recent years. 887 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 3: In the other last. 888 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: Couple of years, you've signed a bunch of guys from 889 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: the outside you're not getting You're not in the comp 890 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 2: game anymore. 891 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 4: No, and this isn't a problem. I almost said it's 892 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: a problem. But there's not many guys set to leave 893 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 4: after this year either. I mean, you're pretty locked up 894 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 4: on your I think you want to keep. 895 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: I think they have eleven guys who are free agents 896 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: to be free agents, to be who are lining you 897 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: know in your line again. 898 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: And he signed, he's signed more than one year one 899 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 3: year deal. 900 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: With some of those other you know guys like Chukes 901 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: and people of that nature that you have to make 902 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: decisions on. 903 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: I'm not going to break the bank. Is a one 904 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: year deal? Some of those type they did a lot 905 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: of that. That's not real hard to find. 906 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can turn your roster that way as well. 907 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: I think teams are starting to figure that out. You 908 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: see a lot more than one and two year deals 909 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: for guys as opposed to those four year deals we 910 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: used to see. 911 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 4: But it used to I mean this time last year 912 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: was well you got to get high Smith signed. I 913 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 4: mean like there's none of those. 914 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing like that. We're gonna take another break. He 915 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: is Matt Williams and I am Dale. I'll let you're 916 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: listening to the Drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll 917 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: be back to finish up the show right after this. 918 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 919 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 920 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 921 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson. This 922 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, we 923 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: were talking about this one before the show today. Mark 924 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: Madden brought it up this while we were waiting here 925 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: for the show and I didn't realize it was I 926 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: didn't realize it was Kelly Stafford who revealed Matthew Stafford 927 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: needed he had their equipment people come out and make 928 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: up a basically a yearbook type thing, a cheat sheet 929 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: so he could figure out who his new teammates were 930 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: with the Rams. That's a bit of an issue. 931 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: It's a bit of an issue. 932 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 4: And okay, in full disclosure, I bet any given year, Rogers, Stafford, 933 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 4: even Brady ben et cetera, these established stud quarterbacks probably 934 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: don't know the ninetieth guy on the roster, you know 935 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, you're not going to be super 936 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 4: tight with every beautfa that comes in. That's just trying 937 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: to make the team. And there is a lot of shuffling. 938 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 4: But to my two takeaways from hearing this, the first 939 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 4: I heard it was when Mark Mattin told was before 940 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 4: you know, I guess you'd heard it before, and I 941 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 4: didn't know his wife was the one involved. My initial 942 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 4: thought was, don't let that get out, you know, you 943 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 4: and I shouldn't be gave it up right right right? 944 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 945 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 4: Con come on, you know, and no team has more 946 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 4: change than they do. I mean, just bringing in any 947 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 4: warm body they could. 948 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: Well, this may not even be about just the not 949 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: knowing the other offensive guys. He probably doesn't know three 950 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: quarters of the defensive guys. 951 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 4: I bet they're mostly defensive players that are gonna make 952 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 4: the team. Yeah, they will be an interesting team. Maybe 953 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 4: we should do that tomorrow. Is just spend ten minutes 954 00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 4: looking at what rams defensive players made the cut and 955 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 4: how many of them we could tell you anything about 956 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 4: that aren't named Aaron Donald. 957 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's that bad. 958 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: And if you look at like they had a lot 959 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 4: of draft picks, not particularly high ones, but they drafted 960 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: a lot of six and seventh rounders, and then they 961 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: spent more than any team in the league on their 962 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 4: udfa's just trying because there's spots available. 963 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't have spots to give up. Yeah, 964 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 3: so not good. No, that shouldn't come out. 965 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: No, it's just you're the leader of the team. Who 966 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: are these guys? 967 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 4: I just picture of them with like this binder, you know, 968 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: leafing through it, Like who's that dude? 969 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: Like now he's got a mole on his left that's it. 970 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: And he's sitting in the cafeteria like the table next 971 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 3: to year talking to you. Yeah, so back in the day, 972 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: shouldn't have it on your phone. 973 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: Back in the day, the Steelers used to put a 974 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: little media pamphlet like that, this is Johnny, this is 975 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: not for the media, but for the players. 976 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: Oh really, this is Dale, this is my Yeah, okay, okay. 977 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't know that the players actually looked at it. 978 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: They might throw it right, maybe be interested if I 979 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 3: was a players, But. 980 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if they still do that. I have 981 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: to ask Bert Lawton about that, their PR director. But 982 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: I know back in the day they used to do that, 983 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: and I guess. 984 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 3: That makes some sense. 985 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 4: I mean, anyway you can make a player's life a 986 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: little more comfortable. 987 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: You know. 988 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: Well, I bring us up because after the game, he 989 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: was this. 990 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 3: Dude hanging around my locker, like at least who he is? 991 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, after the game on what was that last Friday night, 992 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: Thursday night down in in Atlanta, there were a couple 993 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: of us standing there. There weren't very many Pittsburgh media 994 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: down there. I think there were only four or five 995 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: of us. 996 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: Not a huge event. 997 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, preseason game, so there are four or five of 998 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: us waiting there to talk to Nausey might even been 999 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: fewer than that. And one of them was myself and 1000 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: Jerry Dulac, and Jerry asked Nogi Harris a question, and 1001 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 2: Nage looked at Jerry and he's like, did you write 1002 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 2: something about me? I'm like, Jerry's like, no, it wasn't me. 1003 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: He's like, are you sure I thought I remember something? 1004 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 2: This is the problem, like. 1005 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: You know, umps all you guys together, Yeah, and you 1006 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: know some of. 1007 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: Us do kind of kind of look alike, you know. 1008 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: But I did figure out who he thought Jerry was, 1009 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: and I told Jerry in the press box afterwards, because 1010 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 2: there was somebody that wrote something a little damning about nausey. 1011 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 2: But uh, this is the problem that you have. Like, 1012 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 2: for example, if you saw the thing last week with 1013 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. Okay, so Joe Mixon, who hasn't I guess not. 1014 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: He doesn't speak to the media and hasn't spoken to 1015 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: the media in Cincinnati. I think the last couple of years. 1016 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: How this hasn't become a bigger issue. I have no idea, 1017 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: because that is part of your contract. 1018 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: Would ever fly around him? 1019 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: No, it's party of contrast an thing. Yeah, huh, You're 1020 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 2: expected to speak to the media. 1021 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 4: So he was meeting I could kind of see it 1022 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: with him as a rookie considering all all the stuff. Yeah, right, Like, 1023 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to be asked that question, so we'll 1024 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 4: avoid it. But yeah, okay, that's odd though. 1025 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: So apparently he didn't then decide he was talking to 1026 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: the media. This is the first time he'd spoken all 1027 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 2: the training camp to the media. But he wouldn't speak 1028 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 2: to four guys, four specific guys, because they had written 1029 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: bad things about him, things that he didn't like. Isn't 1030 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: that also just part of the deal, part of the job. 1031 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: You can't if you're going to if you're going to 1032 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: play professional football or professional sports of any nature, or 1033 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: do what we do, right, you can't have rabbit ears 1034 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: regarding people saying bad things about you, like on social media. 1035 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 2: If some like I'll have some back and forth with 1036 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: somebody on something. If you disagree with me, fine, you 1037 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: don't have to agree with it. You don't get blocked 1038 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: unless you call me a name, you start name calling 1039 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 2: and things of that nature. We're done. Like you're getting blocked, right. 1040 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean for us to get a comment, we don't like. 1041 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: Everything happens every day. 1042 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was I took a different path to 1043 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 4: the media than most. 1044 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1045 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 4: I went from the Browns to ESPN, and I remember 1046 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 4: my first couple articles at ESPN. I'd down, I'd read 1047 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 4: the comments and dot com there's. 1048 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 2: A lot of comments and probably not many of them 1049 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 2: are good. 1050 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 3: And I go to my editor. 1051 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 4: I'm like, I apologize, man, I guess I'm not doing 1052 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 4: a very good job, you know, like people don't seem. 1053 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: To like my work. He's like, why do you say 1054 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 3: that we're loving what you're doing. I'm like, well, read 1055 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 3: the comments. He's like, oh, don't read the comments. 1056 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 2: Don't do that. Do that. 1057 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 4: You weren't a real scout, you were them The Browns 1058 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 4: would hire anybody. The big one is you've never watched 1059 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 4: football in your life, you know, or I mean, some 1060 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 4: of them are nasty, like how does how does your 1061 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: family even tolerate you because you're so stupid or whatever 1062 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 4: it is. And then my editor flight, I'll say, so, 1063 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 4: don't read the comments. 1064 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 3: Whatever you do, don't do that right, Okay, But it. 1065 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: Just it just amazes me when when professional players do 1066 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: read the comments. 1067 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 4: As I say, I don't know if I would or not. 1068 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 4: It'd be hard not to because you are a human 1069 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: and you're twenty three. They've only known social media whole life. 1070 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 4: You know, like you can write Naugie Harris and Twitter 1071 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 4: and then something's gonna come up all the time. Of 1072 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: course our livee's different that way, of course, but man, 1073 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: most are gonna be bad. 1074 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and most people don't know what's wrong about anyways. 1075 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: That's the big thing is if they don't know what 1076 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: they're seeing, you know, you just it's it's it's different. 1077 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,959 Speaker 2: I can remember and I can remember last year Kevin 1078 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: Dotson was getting some nasty stuff and so I pulled 1079 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: him aside practice. We were just talking about it and 1080 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: I said, hey, I can remember a game and maybe 1081 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 2: you remember this game, And it was Emmanuel Sanders down 1082 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: in in uh Baltimore. The Steelers scored late, they went 1083 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 2: for two, and the past wasn't exactly online. So he 1084 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 2: kind of went to his back to try to catch 1085 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: the ball and missed the two point conversion catch. The 1086 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: stuff that people were saying to him on social media 1087 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: was wrong. It was just ridiculous. What he did was 1088 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: he just started retweeting all the stuff hmm, I hope 1089 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 2: you die and that kind of stuff. Folks don't do that. 1090 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: It's actually a pretty good approach. Yeah, anders, like here 1091 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 4: you go, this is what you. 1092 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 3: Want to be. 1093 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: You want to be a moron on Twitter? 1094 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1095 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 2: Here, let all here, We'll let thousands of people see. 1096 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: This as opposed to me just burying. 1097 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting ticked off about it or you know. 1098 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: Boggles my mind. I like the stones people have behind 1099 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 3: the walls of social media or whatever. 1100 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 4: Like that would never happen back in the day. No, 1101 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 4: and that's the yeah, go Santo's face see all that goes. 1102 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't understand, Like, I get it. 1103 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 2: If you're a fan, I get it. You're a fan, 1104 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 2: you're a fanatic. But I appreciate it the no end. Absolutely, 1105 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 2: guys without you, you don't have a job, no doubt. 1106 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, telling guys to 1107 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: go die or you know it's insanity. No, it's insanity 1108 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 2: to me. 1109 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Or people being afraid to leave their house or 1110 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, like come on, man, it's crazy, it's insane. 1111 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: It's crazy to me. 1112 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 3: But I'm also not in their shoes. 1113 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 4: In terms of how much attention would I spend would 1114 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 4: I pay to the media, like if I was the 1115 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 4: nausea example, some of it has to rub off on you. 1116 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 4: But I would do my best to just not have 1117 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 4: it exist. But then there's the ones walking out of 1118 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, your restaurant with your kids, chuck e 1119 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 4: cheese you're walking out of and someone yells at you 1120 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 4: suck blah blah, Like really, come on, man, a twenty 1121 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 4: three year old dude with a young daughter and you're 1122 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 4: yelling at me about I dropped the pass ten years ago. 1123 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just wanted to the whole thing 1124 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: here with with recognizing your teammates, we're recognizing the media, 1125 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, Like, I get it, and people 1126 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: do recognize us, and we appreciate that, you know. 1127 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 3: Very kind of Yeah. 1128 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 2: You know again, without without the listeners out there, we 1129 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 2: don't have a show. If without the Steelers, we don't 1130 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 2: have a show. 1131 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 3: No one's comparing us to no, not even close. 1132 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 4: I times aren't even I could never recognize, which is fine, 1133 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 4: you know. 1134 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I just I mean, now the training 1135 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 2: camp is over, and I think that it's one of 1136 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 2: the big things I think the Steelers do that. I 1137 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 2: love the fact that training camp is open like that 1138 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: so fans get an opportunity to interact with these guys. 1139 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 2: And see them on a. 1140 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 3: It's a great environment. 1141 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: It really is. 1142 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: It really is. 1143 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 4: And you would hope that a fan then might recognize 1144 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: these people, these athletes as human beings too, Like you 1145 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 4: see him working after practice, you see him interacting, and 1146 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 4: you see their kids on the field. 1147 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 2: And I bring this up at this time of year 1148 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: as well, because you have to understand like people, Well, 1149 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 2: I I don't think Kendrick Green can play. I can't 1150 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 2: wait for the Steelers to cut him good. They'll be 1151 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 2: if that happens. Yeah, he needs to be cut and 1152 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, shipped into the into the monitor, right, like 1153 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: these are people. 1154 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 3: These are people, and he's working hard. 1155 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't ask to be drafted. I remember 1156 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Kolbert talking about this when he was still a 1157 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: Steelers general manager, Like I can't remember which for it 1158 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: might have been Jarvis Jones or something like, he didn't 1159 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: he didn't ask to be drafted in the first round. 1160 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: We did that. We made him a first round draft pick. 1161 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: We screwed that up. He didn't, right, Yeah, the player 1162 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 2: has no control over that kind of stuff. 1163 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 3: Like Hayward Baye's a perfect example. 1164 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 4: Like all of us at the time rolled our eyes 1165 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 4: when the Raiders took him because he had a great forty. 1166 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 4: He should have been a second round pick, and he's 1167 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 4: a second round pick. He might not even be considered 1168 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 4: a bust, like okay, he was okay number two. He 1169 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 4: starts to feel and make the plays, you know, and 1170 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 4: then we hate the human being for being the ninth 1171 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 4: pick in the draft instead the thirty ninth. 1172 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,439 Speaker 2: Again, I understand fans being fans, and it's wonderful. It's great. 1173 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 3: Ninety percent, it's wonderful. 1174 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we enjoy it. We appreciate them. Maybe Matthew Stafford 1175 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: appreciates his teammates, but he just doesn't know who they are. 1176 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: That's to bring it back around everything that's that's hilarious. 1177 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 2: And it was his wife who outed him with it. 1178 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,479 Speaker 4: I wonder how that popped up. I'm sure Matthew's fine 1179 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 4: with it. I'm sure missus staff he might. 1180 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 2: Not have wanted that one out there. I don't know. 1181 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. But it also is the state of the Rams, 1182 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 3: it really is. 1183 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 4: That's what that franchise is doing right now, is trying 1184 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: to bring in I bet no team in the league 1185 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 4: has more roster turnover from last year to this one. 1186 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 3: They may have. I'm just guessing twenty thirty new players. Yeah, 1187 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,959 Speaker 3: I mean there aren't. We're on the roster. 1188 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: F them picks. That's what they said. They got a ring. 1189 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: Now we'll see. Yeah, now you're dealing with it anyways. 1190 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: That's going to do it. Schedule here though they are. 1191 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 2: That's going to do it for today's show. We'll be 1192 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 2: back again tomorrow. Remember Matt and I doing shows every 1193 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 2: day from here on out through the end of whenever 1194 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: the season ends. 1195 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 3: Tomorrow be rocking. 1196 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we'll have cuts to talk about and all 1197 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: that good stuff. We'll have a full roster. Will go 1198 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: down that roster and break it down for you. I 1199 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: like it position by position. But for my partner Matt Williamson, 1200 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: for justin here on site keeping us on the air, 1201 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. We thank you for listening to 1202 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,720 Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.